I use Ballistol now on all my weapons. It doesn't gunk up the works the way other lubes do. My AR's love it...give it a try sometime, you might really like it. Hope the finger heals up good. Take care and Happy Trails my friend.
We have some Ballistol at the shop. I have used it on some pretty nasty guns with good effect. My preferred lube for my competition guns is MilTech...but, it is sensitive to cold. Other than that it is great oil as it doesn't burn off quickly. When competing in the cold I will run Rem oil as it is think and doesn't gel. The finger is healing. That safety lever isn't really safe, LOL...it is very sharp! I thought I had just smacked the finger, then I went to pick up brass and was wondering where the blood came from...ooops.
The original version of this made for the Air force for use in the aircraft survival kits, was originally made in 22 magnum, a later version had a two barrel in 22 magnum and .410 shotgun dual barrel. All of them had problems and did not function when required to. That's why the government stopped buying them
It seems these were, regardless of which company made them, particular about ammo. I was pleased this one ran so well before the cold got to it. If it wouldn't have gummed up I was going to see what kind of group I could get at 50 yards...maybe we'll revisit when it is warmer.
@@Halfmilesniper They're lightening up on the drugs little by little . My wife said for 5 days they didn't wake me at all . Now I'm up for about 3 hours a day .
Have had an original Armalite AR7 since 1995. Has been very reliable with magazines it likes. The feed ramp is built into the magazine not the barrel so having a good magazine is important. Also if one puts the support hand on the magazine when firing it can cause malfunctions. I've also got a couple of the Charter Arms Explorer II pistols. Excellent shooters... Because the guns have aluminum receivers they are susceptible to cold. The aluminum shrinks and the colder it gets the more the bolt will bind even using dry lube. Use mine mainly for canoe trips as it packs up so small. The buttplate isn't water proof unless you wrap some tape around it.. Thanks for sharing...
Thanks for confirming what I suspected about the cold affecting function. I am now thinking it was a little of both - the aluminum being cold and the lube gelling.
@@Halfmilesniper U R most welcome... These rifles get a lot of criticism for not doing this or that... These were made for emergencies where packability was more important than shootability. Even though my eyes aren't as good as they used to be just a few years ago, I can still hit a clay pigeon at 50 yards...to me that is a rabbit in the pot...that is what the gun was made for. And unfortunately the no longer made Armalite, Charter Arms and AR7 Industries guns are much better than what Henry is making today. The barrel shrouds on the older guns are aluminum whereas the Henry is polymer. When the barrel heats up they warp. If one tries using a scope the shots will walk off the paper. The orange front sight blade is plastic and will move out of position if it gets bumped....sad.
They don't like being dirty and cold that is for sure. I had to leave the failures to fire in the video...just to show that now every gun runs flawlessly. Truth right there.
I was always under the impression the Slip line of lubricants were water based. They always seem to give away Slip 2000 at every match I go to. I did some digging and learned the lubes are not water based but their cleaning solutions are. Maybe I'll stop giving away the Slip 2000 lube in my competitor packet.
@@Halfmilesniper Yes, their bore cleaner is water based but the lubricants are not. I've been shooting for almost four decades and Slip is far and away the best lube I've used.
Was there ever a version with an actual pistol grip? For some reason I remember dad having a 22 that you screwed the barrel on and put a stock on it however I don't remember it as a rifle stock! This would have been 40 years ago! I do remember it being a ton of fun, also if I remember dad had a 20 round mag or better! He called it a banana clip!
I don't think I have ever seen a pistol grip version Chris. The barrel, action and magazine fir into the buttstock, basically one screw and one nut hold the entire rifle together. It was designed as a survival rifle that could fit into the tight confines of military aircraft.
Even though I'm sure if I do a search someone has to have already done this idea throwing this out there. Wally World has tan version of the mew Henru version and it's a pretty good price. Would be intresting to have a comparision of the 2
Unfortunately, our Wally World stores here do not sell evil guns, they barely sell evil ammunition. It would make a pretty good comparison video though.
Try Sportsmans they had 1 on sale a few months ago and it was even cheaper but it didn't come with the carry bag and only in black... Just a suggestion and not sure if they are even still available
Don't want to discuss thos any more on here but depending on what state you are headed to or mybe will to drive to I can help you make this happen. If this wasn't a public forum. Do this create a temp email and post on here and I will send you a private message. Then both the comment and the temp email account can be deleted
I used to want one of these. But now, after watching this video and reading the other comments I don’t think so. A gun that is that finicky on ammunition and cleanliness has no business being a survival anything. (Well, maybe a polymer squirrel club.) Just my two cents. But we don’t make pennies anymore, and with the conversion rate it ain’t worth much.
From everything we know, it seems the idea was good in concept but didn't pan out. Sounds like every iteration of this little survival rifle has been plagued with reliability issues. It would be fun to try out an original Stoner version...it is a Eugene Stoner design after all.
I use Ballistol now on all my weapons. It doesn't gunk up the works the way other lubes do. My AR's love it...give it a try sometime, you might really like it. Hope the finger heals up good. Take care and Happy Trails my friend.
We have some Ballistol at the shop. I have used it on some pretty nasty guns with good effect. My preferred lube for my competition guns is MilTech...but, it is sensitive to cold. Other than that it is great oil as it doesn't burn off quickly. When competing in the cold I will run Rem oil as it is think and doesn't gel.
The finger is healing. That safety lever isn't really safe, LOL...it is very sharp! I thought I had just smacked the finger, then I went to pick up brass and was wondering where the blood came from...ooops.
The original version of this made for the Air force for use in the aircraft survival kits, was originally made in 22 magnum, a later version had a two barrel in 22 magnum and .410 shotgun dual barrel. All of them had problems and did not function when required to. That's why the government stopped buying them
I knew they were an Air Force survival kit item, I didn't know they were in 22 Magnum. Learn something everyday, thank you.
The AF gun was a bolt action in .22 Hornet. The M6 was .22 Hornet over .410.
Dad had the Marlin which was the Papoose at that time. It was picky on ammo & fairly accurate. But neat for a teenager to shoot using Dad's ammo. 👍
It seems these were, regardless of which company made them, particular about ammo. I was pleased this one ran so well before the cold got to it. If it wouldn't have gummed up I was going to see what kind of group I could get at 50 yards...maybe we'll revisit when it is warmer.
I was going to say it’s probably the weather
It was an even amount of both Randle...weather and dirty. Gotta keep these little buggers clean.
Those are cool little guns, be good for a variety of reasons.
They do break down into a fairly small package...would fit in most any backpack easily...maybe even in the center console of the truck.
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Thanks for watching Sir.
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Thank you Scott...keep healing and Nurse Cratchet might let you stay up a little later!
@@Halfmilesniper They're lightening up on the drugs little by little . My wife said for 5 days they didn't wake me at all . Now I'm up for about 3 hours a day .
@Scott O,Donahoe thank Ellyn for keeping us updated.
Have had an original Armalite AR7 since 1995. Has been very reliable with magazines it likes. The feed ramp is built into the magazine not the barrel so having a good magazine is important. Also if one puts the support hand on the magazine when firing it can cause malfunctions.
I've also got a couple of the Charter Arms Explorer II pistols. Excellent shooters...
Because the guns have aluminum receivers they are susceptible to cold. The aluminum shrinks and the colder it gets the more the bolt will bind even using dry lube.
Use mine mainly for canoe trips as it packs up so small. The buttplate isn't water proof unless you wrap some tape around it..
Thanks for sharing...
Thanks for confirming what I suspected about the cold affecting function. I am now thinking it was a little of both - the aluminum being cold and the lube gelling.
@@Halfmilesniper U R most welcome... These rifles get a lot of criticism for not doing this or that... These were made for emergencies where packability was more important than shootability. Even though my eyes aren't as good as they used to be just a few years ago, I can still hit a clay pigeon at 50 yards...to me that is a rabbit in the pot...that is what the gun was made for.
And unfortunately the no longer made Armalite, Charter Arms and AR7 Industries guns are much better than what Henry is making today. The barrel shrouds on the older guns are aluminum whereas the Henry is polymer. When the barrel heats up they warp. If one tries using a scope the shots will walk off the paper. The orange front sight blade is plastic and will move out of position if it gets bumped....sad.
@@robertmakowski7808 I am looking for one of the new Henry's just to compare. We'll see if that pans out.
I have the same gun, they don't like being dirty
They don't like being dirty and cold that is for sure. I had to leave the failures to fire in the video...just to show that now every gun runs flawlessly. Truth right there.
I have an Henry AR-7 it is anther one that I have yet to fire.
Ah gee, now you have to go run a magazine or two through it Sindee...if only to say you did!
I've had the best luck with Slip 2000 EWL. Seems to work the best in all conditions and doesn't gum up.
I was always under the impression the Slip line of lubricants were water based. They always seem to give away Slip 2000 at every match I go to. I did some digging and learned the lubes are not water based but their cleaning solutions are. Maybe I'll stop giving away the Slip 2000 lube in my competitor packet.
@@Halfmilesniper Yes, their bore cleaner is water based but the lubricants are not. I've been shooting for almost four decades and Slip is far and away the best lube I've used.
Was there ever a version with an actual pistol grip? For some reason I remember dad having a 22 that you screwed the barrel on and put a stock on it however I don't remember it as a rifle stock! This would have been 40 years ago! I do remember it being a ton of fun, also if I remember dad had a 20 round mag or better! He called it a banana clip!
I don't think I have ever seen a pistol grip version Chris. The barrel, action and magazine fir into the buttstock, basically one screw and one nut hold the entire rifle together. It was designed as a survival rifle that could fit into the tight confines of military aircraft.
I bought a 10/22 takedown instead of an AR7.
I think that was a pretty wise purchase...take down .22s are always pretty neat. Would love the Browning take down lever action.
Even though I'm sure if I do a search someone has to have already done this idea throwing this out there.
Wally World has tan version of the mew Henru version and it's a pretty good price.
Would be intresting to have a comparision of the 2
Unfortunately, our Wally World stores here do not sell evil guns, they barely sell evil ammunition. It would make a pretty good comparison video though.
Try Sportsmans they had 1 on sale a few months ago and it was even cheaper but it didn't come with the carry bag and only in black...
Just a suggestion and not sure if they are even still available
@JeRK II I am trying to work something out, I might have to try to do the comparison out of state. We'll see what happens in the next few months.
Don't want to discuss thos any more on here but depending on what state you are headed to or mybe will to drive to I can help you make this happen.
If this wasn't a public forum.
Do this create a temp email and post on here and I will send you a private message.
Then both the comment and the temp email account can be deleted
@@JeRKII my email is listed in the "about" section on my channel.
I used to want one of these. But now, after watching this video and reading the other comments I don’t think so.
A gun that is that finicky on ammunition and cleanliness has no business being a survival anything. (Well, maybe a polymer squirrel club.)
Just my two cents. But we don’t make pennies anymore, and with the conversion rate it ain’t worth much.
From everything we know, it seems the idea was good in concept but didn't pan out. Sounds like every iteration of this little survival rifle has been plagued with reliability issues.
It would be fun to try out an original Stoner version...it is a Eugene Stoner design after all.