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I always wonder how the person inside would look and scale to the actual fully transformed Venom. Now my curiosity has been satisfied with your wonderful illustration.
@@JonahLobeDraws would this also apply to Symbiotes like Carnage who have bonded to the bloodstream? He’s canonically regrown his head at least once that I’m aware of so how do you think that’d work?
@@JonahLobeDraws yeah true. im still confused as to how the rest of his body would fit inside venom, because isnt venom like much bigger than eddie. so how would eddies arm and legs reach the end of venoms arms and legs if his head is all the way at the top?
@@cobalt82342I have two guesses, The first one is that it doesn't fit but the symbiotes feels all of the host's mouvements and replicate them at the same time And the second one (the one I prefer) is that since we know symbiotes can mess with their hosts brain maybe they kind of connect their body to the host's brain, the host's body is still in there and can't move but the host only feels the symbiote like it's his own body
i like to think that symbiotes have the ability to manipulate their hosts’ body on a molecular level, which allows them to fully open their mouths without revealing their hosts’ heads. Basically they’re assembling and disassembling their hosts’ bodies in a way without killing them and/or making them lose their consciousness
Carnage definitely does this, Venom most likely just connects its biomass directly into his eyes so he can see through it. I feel like the movies take the best physiology approach since when transform they are coating their host inside and out, and using their orifices and skin pores to move externally and internally.
i also assume that symbiotes could do that, since it gets implicit a lot of times in comics, and even other media like Spider-man unlimited. It even "makes more sense" in a way. But yeah it probably depends on a lot of factors, mostly the creative direction of the story
I mean this makes sense, in Spider-Man Unlimited Venom and Carnage while bonded to their hosts are able liquify their bodies to travel in small spaces, nooks and cranies like drains and cracks.
This series is truly remarkable. I never really thought about how Eddie or Peter "wears" the symbiote. Or how it actually fuses to them. Seeing the gossamer channel attached to Eddie's eyes was so cool. And it makes sense how it connects since symbiotes don't have eyeballs or irises. It's like a weird window.
One thing I always liked about venom in Spider-Man 3 is how his design was influenced by John Carpenters The Thing. Seeing how the symbiote bonds with Eddie so violently from the inside out in the church scene. Then how it changes his body and molecular structure towards the end of the film. Giving him a bigger musclar build and sharpening his teeth and warping his already twisted mind . You filling in the blanks for some of his unknown abilities like how eddie sees inside of the symbiote is very insightful and enhanced my love for the og version of this character even more. Seeing the science of the more alien like marvel characters and how some if not most of there physical aspects/abilities/appearance are based on reality is very fascinating
Thanks Jordan! I don’t have much support on Patreon, so I’m not sure if I can continue, but I am glad that you appreciate these videos! Also, The yhing is one of the most influential movies I’ve ever seen.
I always imagined that the host's body just becomes one with the symbiote. Like in Venom: Let There be Carnage, Carnage and Cletus become one fluid thing. When he is being shot at, he just make a huge hole in his chest, and the bullets go through. that would also explain how most host's limbs grow. If their was still a full body, they symbiotes thighs and biceps would have to be the same length as the host's to match up with their joints. But maybe the two beings becoming one is a Carnage special. It's canon that Cletus and Carnage are bonded by Cletus's blood, while Venom and Eddie are bonded by Eddie's nervous system. I don't know everything about symbiotes in Marvel, so maybe this is wrong, just putting my thoughts out there. Your art and ideas as to how things work on an anatomical level is amazing! EDIT: I just looked it up, and Venom is able to survive in space and underwater. Just putting this out there. Your ideas are still amazing, and in the real world, this is probably how symbiotes would work anyways!
Hi Jackipoo! I think Carnage is bonded in a unique way, ie on a DNA level, so there's something *extra* going on with him. And yeah, it's difficult trying to come up with real-world rules that govern such wildly changing subject matter... Hope you get to watch my other vids too man.
I think symbiotes are just formless piles of muscle tissue that bond to a hosts muscular system between the skin and bone. And that the reason they’re eyes are flat is the optic nerves are vertical to reduce organic space. Also explains how the symbiote seemingly appears by rapidly expanding its tissue into tendrils and pushes through the layer of skin and coating the host.
Might explain why symbiote muscle density and height vary so much due to the hosts build (excluding carnage due to him being bonded to Cletus’s bloodstream.)
The Guyver Kick made famous in the live action movie with Mark Hammill is also the signature kick of Scott Adkins, most notable in Undisputed 3: Redemption. He's been around awhile but people are becoming more aware of him since two appearances in the MCU and playing Killa in John Wick 4. He also appeared in Day Shift that has contortionists playing vampires, as someone who likes anatomy you would be amazed at the physical ways they bend and move, no CGI either, just a couple scenes shot in reverse. Directed by Chad Stehelski, same dude who directed all the John Wick films and it's kinda like John Wick meets Blade.
I few years back I tried to redesign spider man characters to look more plausible, like for example I gave venom a snout so eddies head could fit in it, my favourite was probably my Spider-Man redesign where I gave him spider like eyes, fangs and organic web shooters and other spidery traits
Still haven’t gotten over how awesome it is that an illustrator of Marvel Anatomy has his own TH-cam channel but this is awesome great job! As a personal question do you have any suggestions for drawing mandibles or other “non human” features?
Hi Dominick! Welcome to my channel! It sounds like you're a creature designer - you should *absolutely* watch my Creature Design videos here on TH-cam, they should give you a lot of answers you're looking for.
I bought your Marvel Anatomy book it's immaculate, it has become a treasured possession and I have been a Marvel comics fan a long time and it still was worth the wait! Good luck with future projects and thank you!
Richard I’m honored that you picked it up!! Really appreciate the kind words about it. I am working on an original comic now, getting Kickstarted in a few months - I’d love to have you on my team then! 🙌🏻🙌🏻
This is by far one of the most creative art challenges I’ve seen, blending the practicality and real world use verses the supernatural and comic book powers and making it all believable is awesome
It's fascinating and profound watching and listening to your process. What a crazy and daunting task to be able to illustrate and amend canon to the venerated Marvel Universe!
I just found your channel yesterday and i wanted to let you know how i really appreciate your ability to describe your art and then bring forth that description onto the page. I have a very active imagination but ive never been able to bring those thoughts and images to life so i always love to see people who have that ability share it with those around them.
Thank you Kaien! I believe that’s creativity is essential to everyone, so whenever I create these videos, my intention is to demystify the artistic and creative process, to hopefully help others in their own creativity, art, and world building!
Another really interesting question about symbiotes is where do they "go"? Or more accurately, how is stored within the host? It's portrayed as just kind of receding. Does it get absorbed through the pores? Or does it, much more disturbingly, act as a tapeworm? This series has me questioning superhuman function / form a lot more, truly inspiring work!
Hi Frofrozzty! I imagine it mostly blends into the clothing, or hides underneath the clothing, but yes, I imagine a part of it goes inside the host. It's also conceivable that it might wrap around its host very tightly and replicate the appearance of their skin, so that they look just like themselves but are just a little thicker in the waistline?
I love the way you go about this. It’s obvious that you care greatly for practicality and how it would also tie into the lore. I find that really cool.
I truly appreciate your thoughtful dissection of one of my favorite characters and the psychology behind it. Symbiotes are incredibly metaphorical. That said, your commentary on relationships was greatly appreciated.
Man, i just stumbled onto your channel a few days ago and I must admit, I was blown away by the first Marvel Anatomy video I saw where you drew one of my favorite heros (and all around bad bitch) - Storm. The way you incorporated her skeleton and the lightning was just incredible. Wish I could afford to support the channel financially, but alas am broke af at the moment. I def plan on buying the book at some point. That looks like something I could enjoy initially but also revisit over and over again and still have fun. Keep up the great work. You're crazy talented.
Thanks so much Jesse! Hey as long as you’re following here and on Instagram, I am more than happy. Hope you’re able to get less broke soon my friend! Take care.
god, love this series. as a young artist, i learned so much, and always have so much fun watching and rewatching and rewatching and on and on (etc.). hope to see it return SOMEDAY 🙏🙏 thank you so much jonah for everything you’ve done and shown with the marvel anatomy series, it does mean a lot 🫶
This is breathtaking. The Art. The explanations of ideas. The science. Im blown away man. 😮 I actually have the spirit of vengeance set and i read them all the time. The art in those comics is timeless.
I was always under the impression that the symbiote morphed the biology of whatever it attached to. Like the skin of the symbiote becomes a part of what it is attached to. Morphing the bones and musculature. The symbiote becomes a part of the host. It makes sense to why it hurts to be forcibly separated, like skin being removed or a bone pulled out. Just thoughts. Thanks for making these videos, it's fun to see the perspectives of others.
The best part of these videos (for me) is hearing your personal histories and passions interconnect with the subject. I love hearing the passion in your voice as you get really excited talking about these things, thanks for sharing about Guyver!
as a longtime fan of comics, these videos bring me so much joy! your art and your humor is amazing and your videos really highlight both- keep up the great work jonah :)
I think the biggest question I've had about Venom from an anatomy perspective is, how does he eat Like, we know venom eats living creatures, does it travel to Eddies stomach or does it maybe digest inside Venom's mouth? I'd assume the symbiote itself digests it's food but I still am curious as to how? Great video, this is the first marvel anatomy video I've seen as well as first video from the channel I've seen period. Definitely gonna check out more.
welcome Nora, so glad you enjoyed this and welcome to my channel. As to your question, I think the symbiote itself consumes what's eaten, not the host, as human's stomachs are not nearly as... adept or voracious... as symbiote stomachs.
I’ve heard someone speculate the way they eat in the ultimate universe. They theorized that the suit ground organic matter down until the nutrients were small enough to be absorbed by and and through the hosts skin. Disgusting! Lol
With the way that the character behaves sometimes, I've always thought that when a symbiote bonds to a host, they become truly one. Meaning, when Venom forms, Eddie Brock's body turns into goo as well. Maybe that's just me but seriously, some of the things we see Venom go through makes me think "There is no way that there's a body hidden in there
I literally have the book in my hand while watching this video. I don't mind the size, the book is phenomenal. I love discussions on the anatomy and physiology of superheroes and supervillains.
@@joshreichert6564 lol Josh it’s available wherever books are sold! Try Amazon or Barnes and Noble. Or are you looking for a signed copy? You can pick up one of those from my Big Cartel store
I just now bought book from Amazon. I wanted a signed copy, but the cartel store was sold out! 😢 just glad I now have one to read & see your amazing art up close 😊 TY.
I thank you for shedding light on this subject that’s been itching at the back of my mind ever since childhood. The Klyntar (Symbiotes) have always been one of my favorites!
Theirs a few interesting abilities Venom and Carnage show the Klyntar are capable of which just adds to them. The alien race has a bootleg form of Spider Sense because they don’t have eyes in the traditional sense. They can essentially see through every inch of their body and so can react to something behind them so long as it’s within “view”. They can also share information with their host but while working together they can share information with others as well. Cassidy used Carnage to implant the thoughts and feelings and memories he has of every kill he ever committed into his psychiatrist which drove him insane getting a peak into the mind of a super powered serial killer.
I was waiting for a video of yours. Awesome drawings and amazing ideas as usual! It's kind of refreshing to see fantasy elements with more grounded explanations. Keep drawing and we'll keep watching
My neice is one of the youngest animation interns in Canada and she is going to absolutely LOVE this!! As an animator and marvel fanatic, for me you were an INSTANT subscribe. Your work is truly breathtaking.
Ive always wondered how Eddie was inside venom. It didn’t make sense to me how venom had an open mouth, but could also open his face to reveal Eddie beneath. Thanks for clearing it up with your Marvellous art piece!
I honestly think you did my favorite super hero (so glad I call Venom this term they have come so far) justice. This is more of a problem of inconsistency with the comics but I am curious, while sometimes the host still has presence in the symbiote form like in this video, other books will have the host and symbiote fully become one and extend its shapeshifting to the host themself often for healing purposes. (notably this is often used when the symbiote and host shrug off a wound that would otherwise kill, like getting a chunk of the head blown off in either the transformed or "human" state, even so far as to regenerate a whole body back from the dead in 3 instances where the host's body was a decaying corpse/skeleton) So my question is how would you handle the later interpretation of the symbiote characters?
An interesting question. While I'm loathe to say that these two organisms truly become one - as that would defeat the whole idea of them being separate entities - I would imagine that the Symbiote would be capable of "pulling the person apart" using enzymes and proteins (while simultaneously preserving their psyche and protecting them from any pain) and carrying it within itself, using its own systems to keep everything everywhere alive. While in this state, however, I would imagine that the Symbiote would be hugely weakened - since it's forced to subvert its normal physical routine and re-route its own systems to become life support - and that the human host would be essentially "asleep" and almost completely unable to react (as its own brain has been dissolved). After the experience, the Symbiote would have to rely on its physiological memory of its host to "put them back together again," most importantly the neurons in the head. This probably wouldn't be difficult for the Symbiote, however, as they're used to perfecting shapes, even upon just seeing them. What do you think Swordsman?
@@JonahLobeDraws Aside from the host being asleep, (as it doesn't mesh well with what shown in the comics themselves) I really like the idea you proposed and it would help balance out the power creep that has had happened ever since symbiotes became a weird hybrid of cosmic and supernatural ideas. (though I do love Donny's run and some stuff from Al's run, I honestly wish Venom would've stayed street level) Also them being able to hold onto the psyche/brain itself is a nice logical extension of them being able to hold onto a host's soul if their bond was strong enough and the idea overall gives a nice unique spin compared to other characters with healing factors like Wolverine, Deadpool or even the Hulk.
What about the symbiote's ability to absorb items into their bodies like a pocket dimension? Could that be used to explain how they eat things without it going into the host's body?
I think that is what happens with Carnage because they are a perfect match, but pretty much everyone else is still inside with the symbiote being a suit.
These are great you have done an amazing job translating the features and powers of some of Marvel's most iconic characters in a way that most would have never thought about.👏
Thank up for all your artwork and videos. My son bought me your Marvel Anatomy: A Scientific Study of the Superhuman book for Father's Day. Thank again!
The eyes! The breathing! I love this! I would imagine that the teeth aren't really enamel. Keratin? Some symbiotes have long hair but no teeth...a tradeoff?
See I've always thought of them as literally bonding to every bit of a person such that the symbiote and they person are blended at the cellular level. The symbiote "peels" away from the head anatomy, but it's not just layered over the skin.
As the symbiote and the host fuse, the symbiote literally envelopes each part of the anatomy, hence why the "Venom" form increases the host's size. When the mouth rolls back, it's literally sliding off of the tissues off of each cell. The teeth, permanently changed, but it doesn't matter, because the symbiotes regeneration ability replaces them within the host, and the host's very DNA is realigned to leave behind what was there before.
I would’ve loved to go this route! Great analysis here. My only question with that is then… why ever separate again? If the human has to get genetically/physically melted into the Symbiote, aren’t they just one singular entity at that point?
Carnage and his host are one of the same. Carnage is bonded directly to blood, not the body, this is why Carnage is red, the red is blood. Carnage is also able to shape shift his entire body due to the unique bonding. Sqy shoot a cannon ball at cletus. His chest could just shapeshift a big hole for the ball to go through and both the host and symbiote dont have to take the impact. Or say sqeezing down into a noodle to escape through a drain.
I’ve always loved the symbiotes and I was wondering if you have any tips for starters to understand how to get the foundation or base anatomy down to start drawing.
I think there is no substitute for studying from nature! Everything I learned about creature design, I learned by looking at real creatures, and drawing them as best I can. Look up images of animals online and try to sketch them, both their gesture and their details. 🙌🏻
Since you mentioned that the symbiote could obtain oxygen through their tongues, how would you suspect those without a tongue take in sufficient oxygen? Would the tissues both harden and retain its ability for gaseous exchange? Love your work by the way
Hmmm good question! Well I think they can breathe through their skin all the time, but they'd need more for their hosts. Maybe there are other slits/holes in the skin of other Symbiotes? Symbiotes usually have a mouth or mouth-like area, maybe that opening provides it?
Don't know too much about venom, but this looks more like a bio armor. I would think that somehow the simbiote bonds at cellular level and morphs the hosts fisionomy. A more intrinsic concept drawing I would expect.
You should do the anatomy of Sandman, because his abilities are very confusing biologically and anatomically. How he is made of sand and can transform into different things.
Wasn’t familiar with you before but seeing all the fallout and Skyrim stuff in the background and seeing how talented you are, I had to check your channel page and saw you worked on fallout and TES. Really sad you don’t work on them anymore because man are you so knowledgeable and talented
Thanks so much Bread Boi! I had a blast working on those games, but you are correct, I am pretty much finished with that now and on to other things. But look at it this way, if I'd stayed there, you would never have seen these videos and Marvel Anatomy wouldn't exist!
Venom is my favourite character ever to exist, I even cosplayed as him many times, and so this time I have to disagree, because as the word "symbiosis" suggests, the two organisms would be bonded together, not as a person inside an armor, but as the two of them morphing into one: that would mean that the bones, muscles and organs of Eddie would become the same bones, muscles and organs of Venom as well, as they share the same body. That's how Venom could eat heads whole without causing trauma to Eddie, in my opinion.
I be like this thought process! I agree, it could’ve gone either direction. But in that case, wouldn’t they essentially just become one single organism? And would never, ever have to separate, or even be able to?
@@JonahLobeDraws yeah, but when they are forced to separate due to external stimulation like sound or heat, that would make sense for the two of them to experience immense pain like they do, if Venom was just covering Eddie's body like a suit, the separation process would be easier
Generally, art channels aren’t my go to, but this video was highly entertaining all the way through. The passion and joy you have for what you do is infectious. I’m curious which Marvel characters you most enjoyed illustrating in the book, if you don’t mind me asking.
Thanks Jay! Hope you enjoy my other videos as well. Art is part of what I do, but a big part is also world-building, which I think can interest lots of people. My favorites to draw in the book were Iron Man, Jocasta, MODOK, Man-Thing, Rocket, Jean Grey, Cable, Hulk, Abomination, and a few others!
A fellow Jonah and a fellow Guyver lover. Truly a man of culture. I found the first volume of the Guyver manga in the childrens section of my local library when I was like 12. I was hooked!
Wow remember libraries?? They were the best - i was introduced to Stephen King in a library. Anyhow, thanks so much for being a Jonah-lover, I very much appreciate it. I’m Kickstarting my own comic later this year - “Quiet: Level One.” Stay tuned PewPew!!
I also have a theory how this works. It is that in each transformation Eddie's body turns bigger (something like the hulk ), and his teeth mutate to be sharp, his tongue mutates to be big, and his skin becomes overstretched and weakend, so the symbiote becomes a suit and it also work as skin.
So if the symbiote's host breathes from its tongue then how did spiderman manage to breathe with the black suit? Wouldn't it be better if the symbiote's host breathes from the symbiote skin
I think they can breathe through the Symbiote, but on the spider-man suit it was only like a millimeter thick, whereas venom is at least six inches thicker. Would need actual holes for ventilation aye?
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Adam Cooper's depiction of Venom is just amazing, I like how your depiction felt both like a modern take of his yet still manage to feel like its own thing
Great video. I love it! I wanna say that I always thought that the hosts are being "deformed" by the symbiote over time (at first contact it would only be like a black suit covering the human body touching the skin but not like getting in touch with the internal organs), like the host's body would become whatever material the symbiote is made of, making it gooey and flexible thus it will allow the symbiote-host to shapeshift or use its tendrils in more flexible ways than just being like a slimy flesh suit covering the body. I imagined it would be extremely painful or even fatal if it deforms the host body, but the symbiote being bonded to the host on a cellular level would allow the survival of the host and not feel pain like the host is being drugged and would feel powerful and elated all the time.
@@JonahLobeDraws i did! Im new to your channel. I like how you describe your thought processes in illustrating. Im gonna pick up the book marvel anatomy.
As a Character Artist and Art trainer, this was such a pleasure to watch. Venom is one that I sculpt every year due to the fact that he is just so much fun and there is a ton of freedom; but it has to look right. This is going to be so helpful when I tackle him again! Great content! Thanks for this amazing series!
Nice to meet you dude! Great work btw. And thank you, I'm glad this helps out a bit. Have you ever seen Raphael Imhotep's Venom sculpt? It's based on Chase Conley's design, and it's truly amazing. I appreciate the kind words, hopefully I'll be able to make another video soon!
@@JonahLobeDraws Nice to meet you as well! Thank you for the kind words! :) Oh yeah! I have seen Raphael's work and it's truly will indeed! Definitely looking forward to more of your work. I just grab your book - so lots of future reference coming and I can't wait woot woot!
@@IRSculptsSo happy you picked up the book, thank you! Stay tuned, I have a comic coming out later this year, totally original. Also, as an artist, you should come join my Live Streams some time, Monday-Wed-Fri!
@@JonahLobeDraws you are absolutely welcome! I dig the work so happy to help support anyway I can :) I’m down to come to your streams! That sounds like a ton of fun. 😎🤜🤛😎
Kept seeing this in my recommendations. Finally I gave in. I love Venom, and honestly this is super interesting! The way you added more functional elements and how things were explained some more. Though do want to constantly yell Sym-Bee-ote every time you say Sym-Bye-ote. Lmao. Great video! And will be looking for that book! Hope it's available in the Netherlands.
Amazing! I always had a feeling this is how things are done between Symbiote and Host. Always loved Venom since the day Spider- Man first found the Symbiote during the Secret Wars. Long before the name Venom was created. And why Brock picked that name. Man, this brought back so many memories when I was a Teen reading comics. Miss the day where Venom used to camouflage himself when he used to give Spidey a very hard time. He pretty much stopped doing that in the later comics. This was hands down damn cool to watch this video. All so cool how you talked about the Guyver, pretty much the same idea as the Symbiotes. Loved both movies and the anime.
I love trying to figure out the anatomy of these fantastical creatures. Great video! Love the extra thought details with the tongue breathing, teeth and eyes. I always thought that symbiotes when enveloping their host cut off the sensory input from the hosts normal eyes and just link them to theirs, but this is an interesting idea that they are more like a visor.
Thanks Eft! I think it's definitely both: their psychic connection is probably the most powerful part of their bond, but their physical connection is a close second...
Also I also love the Guyver. Especially the second live action movie. Like the symbiote of marvel it’s scary in that it can also just take control of your body and go on a rampage
@@JonahLobeDraws Have really enjoyed watching your other videos-my personal favorite is of Wolverine’s anatomy. The dynamic pose, thoughtful approach to blending the finer details of the character with a creative life-like anatomical realism brought the character illustration to life.
Im a huge fan of marvel live-action films and this made me hooked even more. Thank u so much for this awe-inspiring content, I always love how u tie up everything with sensible biological features without taking the wonders away 💖💖💖💖
Symbiotes have also been shown to protect hosts from outer space vacuum for prolonged periods of time, so either they nullify hosts reliance on oxygen intake or have condensed airbags inside them that are absolutely worth being pointed out, great artwork!
Indeed, I think the symbiotic can probably synthesize oxygen from its internal stores, even without literal airbags. After all, they can alter so many things about themselves…. Thanks for watching by the way, I hope you subscribe to the channel and watched some of my other Marvel anatomy videos too!
@JonahLobeDraws considering they not only bind to humans they must just simply overtake every ounce of muscles' work with their own tissue which doesn't require any gas to operate since otherwise theyd be full on chemical factories capable of forging whatever elements their hosts breathe
You are amazing!! I love the detailed thought you put into every drawing. You really get into the biology of the characters like I’ve never see before. Great job!
Great video❤ This is one really interesting take of the symbiote, them having less bodily features(like defined muscles or jaw bones) really does make their nature a whole lot more sense
Always excited to see another video from you. I like to imagine what types of things you would say whenever I am worldbuilding my creatures and races. It makes me think more practically and in depth. Loved the creature series too! Looking forward to seeing the comic when it comes out!
Yay thank you Skellybobs! I’m glad that my thought process is so useful to you, as you know, I think the best fantasy is all born from reality. Stay tuned for more on the comic!
Dude you are simply amazing in your art , narrative, thinking and presentation! I’m an old comic geek and stumbled across your vids……been binge watching them and each is epic !!!!! Thank you for your time and effort! Much love bro!
Chris thank you for watching and commenting! So glad I could feed your mind with these videos. I'm hoping to make more, but I have very few Patreon members at the moment. Would like to do Hulk or the Skrull next if it's possible.
this is such an amazing piece, venom has been one of my favorite villians/anti-heroes since my childhood. definitely hoping you're able to get another anatomy video out
I love your physiological analysis of Venom, he's one of my favorite characters and one who's physiology is super fascinating to consider. Your eye analysis is awesome, it reminds me of an interaction between either insect type, or something like a mantis shrimp's eyes being connected to a human eye. After watching the video, one of my guesses is I wonder if Venom is almost like a crazy form of mitochondria type symbiote. Other questions I wonder if you would consider are: 1. Venom's teeth, what do you think they would be made of? Would they be a bone phosphate, or equivalent taken from the host? Maybe some from of hyper hardened tendon or ligament, or a permutation of the muscle itself? (since muscle is the basis of Venom acting as a symbiote in this analysis) 2. What do you think the Symbiotes use as their primary respiratory metabolite? From this analysis, they must be able to adjust their 'primary metabolite' to the host and adjust accordingly, maybe the tongue has some sort of filter like system that matches whatever it can detect as the primary metabolite in the host's respiratory (or equivalent) system? I'm guessing the tongue nodules were inspired from lung alveoli to maximise surface area-volume and absorb a primary metabolite?? 3. Would it be plausible that there may be some other form of micro-respiratory holes all over the skin of the symbiote so it doesn't go into anaerobic respiration when changing form so rapidly? Like spiracles that insects have perhaps? Since the skin isn't moist all the time, there would need to be another physiological method for respiration, and I wonder if spiracles would allow this in a creature like Venom. 4. Do these creatures have some strange tardigrade like feature that allows them to survive extreme cold? 5. What do you think it is about sound that disrupts Venom's physiology. Fire I can understand, but the sound, I'm not so sure, I don't think it's as simple as how humans hate some sounds more than others. -Sorry for the long comment, I was just very fascinated and did quite a lot of physiology study, so this really interests me a lot.
Great question James (and I hope you're watching my entire series!). 1. Teeth: Probably bone phosphate or keratin? 2. Yes the tongue nodules were inspired by alveoli! Don't know about metabolites though. 3. Yes, Symbiotes can breathe through their skin anywhere, and especially when they changes shape, I'm willing to bet they open up in microscopic ways all over. 4. Yes, definitely, I think they're a self-contained system and can survive in a vacuum for enhances periods. 5. I'm not sure why sound does it, but as a creature without dedicated eyeballs/noses etc, I think they rely a great deal on vibration to "feel" reality itself, so I think sound waves really throw off their internal mechanisms, why may be microscopic in nature (as opposed to be macroscopic organs), and are constantly reliant on these mechanisms to constantly adjust itself. So it's possible that they can't regulate their systems and they lose their shit *on a cellular level.*
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I always wonder how the person inside would look and scale to the actual fully transformed Venom. Now my curiosity has been satisfied with your wonderful illustration.
We have all wondered at one point or another how it worked! When I made this, I wanted to settle things once and for all. I hope people like it!
@@JonahLobeDraws would this also apply to Symbiotes like Carnage who have bonded to the bloodstream? He’s canonically regrown his head at least once that I’m aware of so how do you think that’d work?
@@JonahLobeDraws yeah true. im still confused as to how the rest of his body would fit inside venom, because isnt venom like much bigger than eddie. so how would eddies arm and legs reach the end of venoms arms and legs if his head is all the way at the top?
@@cobalt82342 when Venom first appeared he wasn't bigger than Eddie
@@cobalt82342I have two guesses,
The first one is that it doesn't fit but the symbiotes feels all of the host's mouvements and replicate them at the same time
And the second one (the one I prefer) is that since we know symbiotes can mess with their hosts brain maybe they kind of connect their body to the host's brain, the host's body is still in there and can't move but the host only feels the symbiote like it's his own body
i like to think that symbiotes have the ability to manipulate their hosts’ body on a molecular level, which allows them to fully open their mouths without revealing their hosts’ heads. Basically they’re assembling and disassembling their hosts’ bodies in a way without killing them and/or making them lose their consciousness
I think Kirby that carnage does this a LOT
Carnage definitely does this, Venom most likely just connects its biomass directly into his eyes so he can see through it. I feel like the movies take the best physiology approach since when transform they are coating their host inside and out, and using their orifices and skin pores to move externally and internally.
@@JonahLobeDraws if I'm not mistaken carnage is the only symbiote that can do that because he/it is his/it's host's blood
i also assume that symbiotes could do that, since it gets implicit a lot of times in comics, and even other media like Spider-man unlimited. It even "makes more sense" in a way. But yeah it probably depends on a lot of factors, mostly the creative direction of the story
I mean this makes sense, in Spider-Man Unlimited Venom and Carnage while bonded to their hosts are able liquify their bodies to travel in small spaces, nooks and cranies like drains and cracks.
This series is truly remarkable. I never really thought about how Eddie or Peter "wears" the symbiote. Or how it actually fuses to them. Seeing the gossamer channel attached to Eddie's eyes was so cool. And it makes sense how it connects since symbiotes don't have eyeballs or irises. It's like a weird window.
Yes exactly Sterling! I’m glad you got something out of it, and that it piques yr imagination! 🙌🏻🙌🏻
One thing I always liked about venom in Spider-Man 3 is how his design was influenced by John Carpenters The Thing. Seeing how the symbiote bonds with Eddie so violently from the inside out in the church scene. Then how it changes his body and molecular structure towards the end of the film. Giving him a bigger musclar build and sharpening his teeth and warping his already twisted mind
. You filling in the blanks for some of his unknown abilities like how eddie sees inside of the symbiote is very insightful and enhanced my love for the og version of this character even more. Seeing the science of the more alien like marvel characters and how some if not most of there physical aspects/abilities/appearance are based on reality is very fascinating
Thanks Jordan! I don’t have much support on Patreon, so I’m not sure if I can continue, but I am glad that you appreciate these videos! Also, The yhing is one of the most influential movies I’ve ever seen.
As a biologist this is great, the way you describe it’s biology is incredible and the talent is uncanny, great job 🤙🏿
Thanks so much Bane! Hope you enjoy my other videos too.
I always imagined that the host's body just becomes one with the symbiote. Like in Venom: Let There be Carnage, Carnage and Cletus become one fluid thing. When he is being shot at, he just make a huge hole in his chest, and the bullets go through. that would also explain how most host's limbs grow. If their was still a full body, they symbiotes thighs and biceps would have to be the same length as the host's to match up with their joints. But maybe the two beings becoming one is a Carnage special. It's canon that Cletus and Carnage are bonded by Cletus's blood, while Venom and Eddie are bonded by Eddie's nervous system. I don't know everything about symbiotes in Marvel, so maybe this is wrong, just putting my thoughts out there. Your art and ideas as to how things work on an anatomical level is amazing!
EDIT: I just looked it up, and Venom is able to survive in space and underwater. Just putting this out there. Your ideas are still amazing, and in the real world, this is probably how symbiotes would work anyways!
Hi Jackipoo! I think Carnage is bonded in a unique way, ie on a DNA level, so there's something *extra* going on with him. And yeah, it's difficult trying to come up with real-world rules that govern such wildly changing subject matter...
Hope you get to watch my other vids too man.
I think symbiotes are just formless piles of muscle tissue that bond to a hosts muscular system between the skin and bone. And that the reason they’re eyes are flat is the optic nerves are vertical to reduce organic space. Also explains how the symbiote seemingly appears by rapidly expanding its tissue into tendrils and pushes through the layer of skin and coating the host.
Might explain why symbiote muscle density and height vary so much due to the hosts build (excluding carnage due to him being bonded to Cletus’s bloodstream.)
I love this thought process, Aaron. you have watched my other videos I hope?
@@JonahLobeDraws This was my first time watching your videos. I’ll make sure to watch more.
The Guyver Kick made famous in the live action movie with Mark Hammill is also the signature kick of Scott Adkins, most notable in Undisputed 3: Redemption. He's been around awhile but people are becoming more aware of him since two appearances in the MCU and playing Killa in John Wick 4.
He also appeared in Day Shift that has contortionists playing vampires, as someone who likes anatomy you would be amazed at the physical ways they bend and move, no CGI either, just a couple scenes shot in reverse. Directed by Chad Stehelski, same dude who directed all the John Wick films and it's kinda like John Wick meets Blade.
You know, I never watched that! I appreciate the recommendation, I will check it out now.
Day Shift was great, really fun movie, and Jamie Foxx was a delight.
I few years back I tried to redesign spider man characters to look more plausible, like for example I gave venom a snout so eddies head could fit in it, my favourite was probably my Spider-Man redesign where I gave him spider like eyes, fangs and organic web shooters and other spidery traits
I love that Jacob. So creative, right up my alley!
Still haven’t gotten over how awesome it is that an illustrator of Marvel Anatomy has his own TH-cam channel but this is awesome great job! As a personal question do you have any suggestions for drawing mandibles or other “non human” features?
Hi Dominick! Welcome to my channel! It sounds like you're a creature designer - you should *absolutely* watch my Creature Design videos here on TH-cam, they should give you a lot of answers you're looking for.
I bought your Marvel Anatomy book it's immaculate, it has become a treasured possession and I have been a Marvel comics fan a long time and it still was worth the wait! Good luck with future projects and thank you!
Richard I’m honored that you picked it up!! Really appreciate the kind words about it. I am working on an original comic now, getting Kickstarted in a few months - I’d love to have you on my team then! 🙌🏻🙌🏻
This is by far one of the most creative art challenges I’ve seen, blending the practicality and real world use verses the supernatural and comic book powers and making it all believable is awesome
Thanks Josuke! So glad you enjoy this, this is what I try to do all the time with my videos, I’m glad it comes across.
It's fascinating and profound watching and listening to your process. What a crazy and daunting task to be able to illustrate and amend canon to the venerated Marvel Universe!
Thank you Dogs! Experience was long and intense, which is why I wanted to share the journey here on TH-cam. Thanks for watching!
I just found your channel yesterday and i wanted to let you know how i really appreciate your ability to describe your art and then bring forth that description onto the page. I have a very active imagination but ive never been able to bring those thoughts and images to life so i always love to see people who have that ability share it with those around them.
Thank you Kaien! I believe that’s creativity is essential to everyone, so whenever I create these videos, my intention is to demystify the artistic and creative process, to hopefully help others in their own creativity, art, and world building!
Another really interesting question about symbiotes is where do they "go"? Or more accurately, how is stored within the host? It's portrayed as just kind of receding. Does it get absorbed through the pores? Or does it, much more disturbingly, act as a tapeworm? This series has me questioning superhuman function / form a lot more, truly inspiring work!
Hi Frofrozzty! I imagine it mostly blends into the clothing, or hides underneath the clothing, but yes, I imagine a part of it goes inside the host. It's also conceivable that it might wrap around its host very tightly and replicate the appearance of their skin, so that they look just like themselves but are just a little thicker in the waistline?
In the comics it would look like clothes.
I love your art so much
Thanks Jacob!!
I love the way you go about this. It’s obvious that you care greatly for practicality and how it would also tie into the lore. I find that really cool.
Thanks Luca! A sense of realism is important to me, otherwise, this is all just magic
Venom is by far my favorite character in the entire comic book universe. And now I have a different view of him. Thank you very much for this video.
My pleasure. Hope you followed - I'm doing Groot soon!
I truly appreciate your thoughtful dissection of one of my favorite characters and the psychology behind it. Symbiotes are incredibly metaphorical. That said, your commentary on relationships was greatly appreciated.
Thank you! I would have loved to go deeper, but I did not want to sound preachy or anything
Man, i just stumbled onto your channel a few days ago and I must admit, I was blown away by the first Marvel Anatomy video I saw where you drew one of my favorite heros (and all around bad bitch) - Storm. The way you incorporated her skeleton and the lightning was just incredible. Wish I could afford to support the channel financially, but alas am broke af at the moment. I def plan on buying the book at some point. That looks like something I could enjoy initially but also revisit over and over again and still have fun. Keep up the great work. You're crazy talented.
Thanks so much Jesse! Hey as long as you’re following here and on Instagram, I am more than happy. Hope you’re able to get less broke soon my friend! Take care.
god, love this series. as a young artist, i learned so much, and always have so much fun watching and rewatching and rewatching and on and on (etc.). hope to see it return SOMEDAY 🙏🙏 thank you so much jonah for everything you’ve done and shown with the marvel anatomy series, it does mean a lot 🫶
aww thank you so much for saying so, and for watching the whole series. Stay tuned - I have a Groot episode premiering in just a few weeks!
This helped me understand the concept so much better. Thanks for the video and the incredible art!
My pleasure! I hope you have gotten a chance to watch some of my other videos?
@@JonahLobeDraws sure did
Video earned a 👍🏾 at 1:00 because the Guyver series was a big part of my childhood as well.
Yay Dante!! That series made a BIG impression on me!
This is breathtaking. The Art. The explanations of ideas. The science. Im blown away man. 😮
I actually have the spirit of vengeance set and i read them all the time. The art in those comics is timeless.
Much love Mike, thanks for watching and commenting!
I clicked this video not expecting anything but WOW! There is something so breathtaking about watching a master at work, bravo to you sir!
Much love Marquaza! Hope you enjoy my other videos too.
I was always under the impression that the symbiote morphed the biology of whatever it attached to. Like the skin of the symbiote becomes a part of what it is attached to. Morphing the bones and musculature. The symbiote becomes a part of the host. It makes sense to why it hurts to be forcibly separated, like skin being removed or a bone pulled out. Just thoughts. Thanks for making these videos, it's fun to see the perspectives of others.
Such an interesting thought, thank you Benjamin for commenting and subscribing!
The best part of these videos (for me) is hearing your personal histories and passions interconnect with the subject. I love hearing the passion in your voice as you get really excited talking about these things, thanks for sharing about Guyver!
Glad you enjoyed that Guyver bit, I hope you watched and enjoyed the other videos too!
as a longtime fan of comics, these videos bring me so much joy! your art and your humor is amazing and your videos really highlight both- keep up the great work jonah :)
Thanks so much Gilang!! Hoping to produce more v soon.
I have nothing unique to say you’re art is just beautiful and breathtaking
Much love Doppio, thanks for subscribing, can't wait to share my next project with you.
I think the biggest question I've had about Venom from an anatomy perspective is, how does he eat
Like, we know venom eats living creatures, does it travel to Eddies stomach or does it maybe digest inside Venom's mouth? I'd assume the symbiote itself digests it's food but I still am curious as to how?
Great video, this is the first marvel anatomy video I've seen as well as first video from the channel I've seen period. Definitely gonna check out more.
welcome Nora, so glad you enjoyed this and welcome to my channel. As to your question, I think the symbiote itself consumes what's eaten, not the host, as human's stomachs are not nearly as... adept or voracious... as symbiote stomachs.
I’ve heard someone speculate the way they eat in the ultimate universe. They theorized that the suit ground organic matter down until the nutrients were small enough to be absorbed by and and through the hosts skin. Disgusting! Lol
With the way that the character behaves sometimes, I've always thought that when a symbiote bonds to a host, they become truly one. Meaning, when Venom forms, Eddie Brock's body turns into goo as well. Maybe that's just me but seriously, some of the things we see Venom go through makes me think "There is no way that there's a body hidden in there
I literally have the book in my hand while watching this video. I don't mind the size, the book is phenomenal. I love discussions on the anatomy and physiology of superheroes and supervillains.
Yayyy Demetris you’re amazing, so glad you picked up the book! If we ever meet I’ll sign it.
I looked for it. Where can I get it?
@@joshreichert6564 lol Josh it’s available wherever books are sold! Try Amazon or Barnes and Noble. Or are you looking for a signed copy? You can pick up one of those from my Big Cartel store
I just now bought book from Amazon. I wanted a signed copy, but the cartel store was sold out! 😢 just glad I now have one to read & see your amazing art up close 😊 TY.
@@philcamacho127 Sorry about that Phil! I just made more available, but I'm glad it's coming to you regardless. Hope you love it bro!!
I thank you for shedding light on this subject that’s been itching at the back of my mind ever since childhood. The Klyntar (Symbiotes) have always been one of my favorites!
Theirs a few interesting abilities Venom and Carnage show the Klyntar are capable of which just adds to them. The alien race has a bootleg form of Spider Sense because they don’t have eyes in the traditional sense. They can essentially see through every inch of their body and so can react to something behind them so long as it’s within “view”. They can also share information with their host but while working together they can share information with others as well. Cassidy used Carnage to implant the thoughts and feelings and memories he has of every kill he ever committed into his psychiatrist which drove him insane getting a peak into the mind of a super powered serial killer.
That's awesome Broomer. It's sort of like spiders or octopuses, they have extra senses built into their skin.
I was waiting for a video of yours. Awesome drawings and amazing ideas as usual! It's kind of refreshing to see fantasy elements with more grounded explanations. Keep drawing and we'll keep watching
Nuno thank you! I really appreciate you watching and commenting.
Questions that have been haunting me for 8 years solved finally. Thank you so much for satisfying my symbiote appetite. 😮
You're very welcome Waffles! Enjoy my other videos too :)
I love the insights into the creation process of artwork. Keep them coming and in all other projects you are doing.
Thank you so much Rafael! I will continue to do so as long as I can!
My neice is one of the youngest animation interns in Canada and she is going to absolutely LOVE this!! As an animator and marvel fanatic, for me you were an INSTANT subscribe. Your work is truly breathtaking.
Thomas I'm honored! Please say hi to your neice for me, that's an amazing accomplishment, she is an artistic shooting star.
Ive always wondered how Eddie was inside venom. It didn’t make sense to me how venom had an open mouth, but could also open his face to reveal Eddie beneath. Thanks for clearing it up with your Marvellous art piece!
My pleasure! Hope you get to watch my other vids too
I honestly think you did my favorite super hero (so glad I call Venom this term they have come so far) justice. This is more of a problem of inconsistency with the comics but I am curious, while sometimes the host still has presence in the symbiote form like in this video, other books will have the host and symbiote fully become one and extend its shapeshifting to the host themself often for healing purposes. (notably this is often used when the symbiote and host shrug off a wound that would otherwise kill, like getting a chunk of the head blown off in either the transformed or "human" state, even so far as to regenerate a whole body back from the dead in 3 instances where the host's body was a decaying corpse/skeleton) So my question is how would you handle the later interpretation of the symbiote characters?
An interesting question. While I'm loathe to say that these two organisms truly become one - as that would defeat the whole idea of them being separate entities - I would imagine that the Symbiote would be capable of "pulling the person apart" using enzymes and proteins (while simultaneously preserving their psyche and protecting them from any pain) and carrying it within itself, using its own systems to keep everything everywhere alive. While in this state, however, I would imagine that the Symbiote would be hugely weakened - since it's forced to subvert its normal physical routine and re-route its own systems to become life support - and that the human host would be essentially "asleep" and almost completely unable to react (as its own brain has been dissolved). After the experience, the Symbiote would have to rely on its physiological memory of its host to "put them back together again," most importantly the neurons in the head. This probably wouldn't be difficult for the Symbiote, however, as they're used to perfecting shapes, even upon just seeing them. What do you think Swordsman?
@@JonahLobeDraws
Aside from the host being asleep, (as it doesn't mesh well with what shown in the comics themselves) I really like the idea you proposed and it would help balance out the power creep that has had happened ever since symbiotes became a weird hybrid of cosmic and supernatural ideas. (though I do love Donny's run and some stuff from Al's run, I honestly wish Venom would've stayed street level) Also them being able to hold onto the psyche/brain itself is a nice logical extension of them being able to hold onto a host's soul if their bond was strong enough and the idea overall gives a nice unique spin compared to other characters with healing factors like Wolverine, Deadpool or even the Hulk.
Your thought process is just incredible.
You've just earned a new subscriber.
Hooray thanks Meanboy!!
Love your art work and videos, i always thought Eddie would morph with venom every time they transform rather than him sitting whole inside.
Yeah that’s definitely one direction we couldve gone! Marvel didn’t want it
What about the symbiote's ability to absorb items into their bodies like a pocket dimension? Could that be used to explain how they eat things without it going into the host's body?
I think that is what happens with Carnage because they are a perfect match, but pretty much everyone else is still inside with the symbiote being a suit.
These are great you have done an amazing job translating the features and powers of some of Marvel's most iconic characters in a way that most would have never thought about.👏
Thank you - that was my task with this book! Have you gotten a copy yet? Or have you watched my other videos??
This is so beautiful.
Thanks Dragon!
Thank up for all your artwork and videos. My son bought me your Marvel Anatomy: A Scientific Study of the Superhuman book for Father's Day. Thank again!
Wow your son is amazing! Really hoping you enjoyed the book.
The eyes! The breathing! I love this!
I would imagine that the teeth aren't really enamel. Keratin? Some symbiotes have long hair but no teeth...a tradeoff?
Ooh I love that thinking keratin teeth!! I would totally believe it
I’m actually really interested in this book! Being a digital artist as well, this video really inspired me!
If you're a digital artist, you should drop by my Twitch livestream some time, Mon-Wed-Fri! Hope to see you there.
See I've always thought of them as literally bonding to every bit of a person such that the symbiote and they person are blended at the cellular level. The symbiote "peels" away from the head anatomy, but it's not just layered over the skin.
As the symbiote and the host fuse, the symbiote literally envelopes each part of the anatomy, hence why the "Venom" form increases the host's size. When the mouth rolls back, it's literally sliding off of the tissues off of each cell. The teeth, permanently changed, but it doesn't matter, because the symbiotes regeneration ability replaces them within the host, and the host's very DNA is realigned to leave behind what was there before.
my thoughts also
I would’ve loved to go this route! Great analysis here. My only question with that is then… why ever separate again? If the human has to get genetically/physically melted into the Symbiote, aren’t they just one singular entity at that point?
Carnage and his host are one of the same. Carnage is bonded directly to blood, not the body, this is why Carnage is red, the red is blood. Carnage is also able to shape shift his entire body due to the unique bonding.
Sqy shoot a cannon ball at cletus. His chest could just shapeshift a big hole for the ball to go through and both the host and symbiote dont have to take the impact. Or say sqeezing down into a noodle to escape through a drain.
@@hathynhighley8548 you are correct! They are truly bonded on a blood level…
This is one of the best channels that has ever appeared on my feed. Wow!
Flattered trace! Thank yourself at home, my friend, stay tuned for more
I’ve always loved the symbiotes and I was wondering if you have any tips for starters to understand how to get the foundation or base anatomy down to start drawing.
I think there is no substitute for studying from nature! Everything I learned about creature design, I learned by looking at real creatures, and drawing them as best I can. Look up images of animals online and try to sketch them, both their gesture and their details. 🙌🏻
@@JonahLobeDraws thanks for the feed back I’ll try that out.
I have loved the symbiotes since they were introduced. This made me think so much more on them and how they work.
Happy to help out Jawllypop! Hope you get to watch my other videos too.
Incredible work Jonah! You killed it with this piece
Thank you Tacos! 🙌🏻
I fell out of my chair when I saw the Guyver 1 model. Loved that manga/anime, love your art.
Ha, I can tell from that name! Hope you enjoy my other vids too Saiyan
Since you mentioned that the symbiote could obtain oxygen through their tongues, how would you suspect those without a tongue take in sufficient oxygen? Would the tissues both harden and retain its ability for gaseous exchange? Love your work by the way
Hmmm good question! Well I think they can breathe through their skin all the time, but they'd need more for their hosts. Maybe there are other slits/holes in the skin of other Symbiotes? Symbiotes usually have a mouth or mouth-like area, maybe that opening provides it?
So fascinating! Both the discussion about biology and anatomy and the illustration, so awesome!
Thanks Ant! Hope you enjoy my other videos too!
Don't know too much about venom, but this looks more like a bio armor. I would think that somehow the simbiote bonds at cellular level and morphs the hosts fisionomy. A more intrinsic concept drawing I would expect.
That would be wild! In case like that, they would almost just become one single organism, right?
your so incredible I love ur storytelling so much and of course your awesome art
Thank you so much Dark! I really, really love to write, so that means a lot that you call that out specifically.
You should do the anatomy of Sandman, because his abilities are very confusing biologically and anatomically. How he is made of sand and can transform into different things.
He is in the book! If I get more Patreon supporters I can do more videos.
@JonahLobeDraws Cool, I will probably buy it because I am really amazed by the illustrations.
Wasn’t familiar with you before but seeing all the fallout and Skyrim stuff in the background and seeing how talented you are, I had to check your channel page and saw you worked on fallout and TES. Really sad you don’t work on them anymore because man are you so knowledgeable and talented
Thanks so much Bread Boi! I had a blast working on those games, but you are correct, I am pretty much finished with that now and on to other things. But look at it this way, if I'd stayed there, you would never have seen these videos and Marvel Anatomy wouldn't exist!
I was just working on a venom related project, the timing 😂
Yessss amazing Pupz! What is it?
This video was really great cause it made me think about things that I’ve never thought about when it came to venom’s anatomy
Thank you Enzo for watching!
Venom is my favourite character ever to exist, I even cosplayed as him many times, and so this time I have to disagree, because as the word "symbiosis" suggests, the two organisms would be bonded together, not as a person inside an armor, but as the two of them morphing into one: that would mean that the bones, muscles and organs of Eddie would become the same bones, muscles and organs of Venom as well, as they share the same body. That's how Venom could eat heads whole without causing trauma to Eddie, in my opinion.
I be like this thought process! I agree, it could’ve gone either direction. But in that case, wouldn’t they essentially just become one single organism? And would never, ever have to separate, or even be able to?
Symbiosis involves two beings complementing each other, but remaining as independent beings, not just merging into one,
@@ogs5276 right, precisely
@@JonahLobeDraws yeah, but when they are forced to separate due to external stimulation like sound or heat, that would make sense for the two of them to experience immense pain like they do, if Venom was just covering Eddie's body like a suit, the separation process would be easier
@@EUDESTROYER true!! Though I think they’re still psychically connected, so that’s a good part of it
Generally, art channels aren’t my go to, but this video was highly entertaining all the way through. The passion and joy you have for what you do is infectious. I’m curious which Marvel characters you most enjoyed illustrating in the book, if you don’t mind me asking.
Thanks Jay! Hope you enjoy my other videos as well. Art is part of what I do, but a big part is also world-building, which I think can interest lots of people.
My favorites to draw in the book were Iron Man, Jocasta, MODOK, Man-Thing, Rocket, Jean Grey, Cable, Hulk, Abomination, and a few others!
A fellow Jonah and a fellow Guyver lover. Truly a man of culture. I found the first volume of the Guyver manga in the childrens section of my local library when I was like 12. I was hooked!
Wow remember libraries?? They were the best - i was introduced to Stephen King in a library. Anyhow, thanks so much for being a Jonah-lover, I very much appreciate it.
I’m Kickstarting my own comic later this year - “Quiet: Level One.” Stay tuned PewPew!!
I also have a theory how this works. It is that in each transformation Eddie's body turns bigger (something like the hulk ), and his teeth mutate to be sharp, his tongue mutates to be big, and his skin becomes overstretched and weakend, so the symbiote becomes a suit and it also work as skin.
I've always loved Venom, so seeing how the Symbiote might WORK while bonded to a host is awesome.
You have gained a brand new sub.
Darth, amazing, thank you! 🙌🏻
This is my favorite variant gimmick right now. The Hulk and Wolverine covers were amazing!
Thanks Kyle! I have been pretty pleased with how those have turned out...
@Jonah Lobe I didn't know about the book until I finished the video, but it's definitely on the top of my want list now!
So if the symbiote's host breathes from its tongue then how did spiderman manage to breathe with the black suit? Wouldn't it be better if the symbiote's host breathes from the symbiote skin
I think they can breathe through the Symbiote, but on the spider-man suit it was only like a millimeter thick, whereas venom is at least six inches thicker. Would need actual holes for ventilation aye?
@@JonahLobeDraws You really have thought of everything 👀! Great job man, and amazing art as usual.
@@guyinyourphone7426 thanks Guy!
This is truely a great work. Keep it up 'cause you're amazing.
Thank you Andrea! Have some cool stuff coming, stay tuned...
Never clicked on a notification as quick before, fantastic video as always! I just picked up your book, it's absolutely amazing
Thank you so much Oggelicious!! I really appreciate your support, and I’m so glad you like the book. I am kickstarting my own comic book later this year, stay tuned!!
How did this slip by me!? HOW!? Great work Jonah. Your art rocks. You rock. Rock rocks.
Thanks Joshua! Rocks rock so hard. Pebbles also rock.
I stood up in my chair when you pulled out The Guyver! Awesome surprise and great tie in!
Yes John! You understand the nostalgia.
I would like to see your workflow in detail explaining everything in detail, the tools you use,etc. Love you art btw, excited for your book....
Much love Rana! I try to do this in all my videos, hope you've subscribed. And I give lots more detail on my Patreon!
Adam Cooper's depiction of Venom is just amazing, I like how your depiction felt both like a modern take of his yet still manage to feel like its own thing
Thank you so much Niclas! Hoping to do an episode on Ghost Rider soon.
Truly awesome and thank you. Art drawings never sees to amaze me with the high advancement colors and shadowing detail. 😊✨✨✨
Thank you Tilt! Hope you enjoy the rest of this series too.
Great video. I love it! I wanna say that I always thought that the hosts are being "deformed" by the symbiote over time (at first contact it would only be like a black suit covering the human body touching the skin but not like getting in touch with the internal organs), like the host's body would become whatever material the symbiote is made of, making it gooey and flexible thus it will allow the symbiote-host to shapeshift or use its tendrils in more flexible ways than just being like a slimy flesh suit covering the body. I imagined it would be extremely painful or even fatal if it deforms the host body, but the symbiote being bonded to the host on a cellular level would allow the survival of the host and not feel pain like the host is being drugged and would feel powerful and elated all the time.
I think im just putting too much thought in this...😂😂😂😂
You and me both Max! And I feel that your theory holds especially true for Venom.
Hope you've seen my other videos too?
@@JonahLobeDraws i did! Im new to your channel. I like how you describe your thought processes in illustrating. Im gonna pick up the book marvel anatomy.
As a Character Artist and Art trainer, this was such a pleasure to watch. Venom is one that I sculpt every year due to the fact that he is just so much fun and there is a ton of freedom; but it has to look right. This is going to be so helpful when I tackle him again!
Great content! Thanks for this amazing series!
Nice to meet you dude! Great work btw. And thank you, I'm glad this helps out a bit. Have you ever seen Raphael Imhotep's Venom sculpt? It's based on Chase Conley's design, and it's truly amazing. I appreciate the kind words, hopefully I'll be able to make another video soon!
@@JonahLobeDraws Nice to meet you as well!
Thank you for the kind words! :)
Oh yeah! I have seen Raphael's work and it's truly will indeed!
Definitely looking forward to more of your work. I just grab your book - so lots of future reference coming and I can't wait woot woot!
@@IRSculptsSo happy you picked up the book, thank you! Stay tuned, I have a comic coming out later this year, totally original. Also, as an artist, you should come join my Live Streams some time, Monday-Wed-Fri!
@@JonahLobeDraws you are absolutely welcome! I dig the work so happy to help support anyway I can :)
I’m down to come to your streams! That sounds like a ton of fun. 😎🤜🤛😎
Kept seeing this in my recommendations. Finally I gave in. I love Venom, and honestly this is super interesting! The way you added more functional elements and how things were explained some more.
Though do want to constantly yell Sym-Bee-ote every time you say Sym-Bye-ote. Lmao.
Great video! And will be looking for that book! Hope it's available in the Netherlands.
Lol Winchester you finally gave in - good! I have plenty of other vids you might look, too.
Sym-byeeee ote!
Amazing! I always had a feeling this is how things are done between Symbiote and Host. Always loved Venom since the day Spider- Man first found the Symbiote during the Secret Wars. Long before the name Venom was created. And why Brock picked that name. Man, this brought back so many memories when I was a Teen reading comics. Miss the day where Venom used to camouflage himself when he used to give Spidey a very hard time. He pretty much stopped doing that in the later comics. This was hands down damn cool to watch this video.
All so cool how you talked about the Guyver, pretty much the same idea as the Symbiotes. Loved both movies and the anime.
Isn't is so cool Vengeance how these similar ideas echo again and again? I bought that Guyver and I was like "WAIT a minute..."
I love trying to figure out the anatomy of these fantastical creatures. Great video! Love the extra thought details with the tongue breathing, teeth and eyes. I always thought that symbiotes when enveloping their host cut off the sensory input from the hosts normal eyes and just link them to theirs, but this is an interesting idea that they are more like a visor.
Thanks Eft! I think it's definitely both: their psychic connection is probably the most powerful part of their bond, but their physical connection is a close second...
Also I also love the Guyver. Especially the second live action movie. Like the symbiote of marvel it’s scary in that it can also just take control of your body and go on a rampage
New favorite channel right here. I love your passion, contributing to your patreon
Wasabi thank you dude!! I will keep a lookout for you on Patreon. 🙌🏻
Enjoyed your commentary on your process. Thank you for the interesting content!
My pleasure, Alexander! Have you watched my other videos yet?
@@JonahLobeDraws Have really enjoyed watching your other videos-my personal favorite is of Wolverine’s anatomy. The dynamic pose, thoughtful approach to blending the finer details of the character with a creative life-like anatomical realism brought the character illustration to life.
Your illustration's are amazing. you deserve so much more support
Thank you Kai! I am releasing my own comment on Kickstarter later this year, I would love for you to support me then!
Im a huge fan of marvel live-action films and this made me hooked even more. Thank u so much for this awe-inspiring content, I always love how u tie up everything with sensible biological features without taking the wonders away 💖💖💖💖
Thanks so much Kendi!! I really appreciate you watching and commenting.
Symbiotes have also been shown to protect hosts from outer space vacuum for prolonged periods of time, so either they nullify hosts reliance on oxygen intake or have condensed airbags inside them that are absolutely worth being pointed out, great artwork!
Indeed, I think the symbiotic can probably synthesize oxygen from its internal stores, even without literal airbags. After all, they can alter so many things about themselves….
Thanks for watching by the way, I hope you subscribe to the channel and watched some of my other Marvel anatomy videos too!
@JonahLobeDraws considering they not only bind to humans they must just simply overtake every ounce of muscles' work with their own tissue which doesn't require any gas to operate since otherwise theyd be full on chemical factories capable of forging whatever elements their hosts breathe
@@JonahLobeDraws also, totally subscribed, your wolverine video was just as amazing as this one
You are amazing!! I love the detailed thought you put into every drawing. You really get into the biology of the characters like I’ve never see before. Great job!
Thanks so much Frank for watching and commenting! Hopefully I'll be able to make more of these videos, just need a few more Patreon members...
Great video❤
This is one really interesting take of the symbiote, them having less bodily features(like defined muscles or jaw bones) really does make their nature a whole lot more sense
Thanks Damn, hope you enjoy the other videos!
Bro, Guyver is such an underrated and underappreciated anime. Guyver is so so good.
You feel me!!
This is so inspirational I’m happy this popped up on the homepage ❤❤❤❤❤
Thanks Yorge! Enjoy the full collection 😁
Thank you for your time and effort, I hope this series can continue :')
Much love I super appreciate that! Hope I can do more too - if you’d like to join my Patreon fam I’d love to have you!
Venom looks awesome. I am enjoying these series of videos on how the anatomy comes together.
Thanks Wayne! I might not be able to continue, though, as I don’t have much support on Patreon. Every little bit counts…
This was so much fun to watch, definitely buying your book 🔥
Yay Dahec I hope you love it my friend! If you're curious as to what else is in the book, please hit me up on Instagram.
Always excited to see another video from you. I like to imagine what types of things you would say whenever I am worldbuilding my creatures and races. It makes me think more practically and in depth. Loved the creature series too! Looking forward to seeing the comic when it comes out!
Yay thank you Skellybobs! I’m glad that my thought process is so useful to you, as you know, I think the best fantasy is all born from reality. Stay tuned for more on the comic!
Dude you are simply amazing in your art , narrative, thinking and presentation! I’m an old comic geek and stumbled across your vids……been binge watching them and each is epic !!!!! Thank you for your time and effort! Much love bro!
Chris thank you for watching and commenting! So glad I could feed your mind with these videos. I'm hoping to make more, but I have very few Patreon members at the moment. Would like to do Hulk or the Skrull next if it's possible.
Dude! i was waiting for this since i discovered your channel! Best drawing so far great work!
Thank you Filipe! As I’m a creature designer by trade, this definitely ended up as one of my favorites to draw.
This is a good take to make sense with these characters. As you said, to make them realistic and practical.
Thanks Dog! Have you watched my other videos?
this is such an amazing piece, venom has been one of my favorite villians/anti-heroes since my childhood.
definitely hoping you're able to get another anatomy video out
Me too graves, thank you. Would love to have you as a supporter on Patreon, that will help make it happen!!
Brilliantly executed: I love the jaw and texture on the tongue! And the gesture of the teeth and tongue are perfect.
Thank you Omega! Hope you enjoy my other videos too.
I love your physiological analysis of Venom, he's one of my favorite characters and one who's physiology is super fascinating to consider. Your eye analysis is awesome, it reminds me of an interaction between either insect type, or something like a mantis shrimp's eyes being connected to a human eye. After watching the video, one of my guesses is I wonder if Venom is almost like a crazy form of mitochondria type symbiote.
Other questions I wonder if you would consider are:
1. Venom's teeth, what do you think they would be made of? Would they be a bone phosphate, or equivalent taken from the host? Maybe some from of hyper hardened tendon or ligament, or a permutation of the muscle itself? (since muscle is the basis of Venom acting as a symbiote in this analysis)
2. What do you think the Symbiotes use as their primary respiratory metabolite? From this analysis, they must be able to adjust their 'primary metabolite' to the host and adjust accordingly, maybe the tongue has some sort of filter like system that matches whatever it can detect as the primary metabolite in the host's respiratory (or equivalent) system? I'm guessing the tongue nodules were inspired from lung alveoli to maximise surface area-volume and absorb a primary metabolite??
3. Would it be plausible that there may be some other form of micro-respiratory holes all over the skin of the symbiote so it doesn't go into anaerobic respiration when changing form so rapidly? Like spiracles that insects have perhaps? Since the skin isn't moist all the time, there would need to be another physiological method for respiration, and I wonder if spiracles would allow this in a creature like Venom.
4. Do these creatures have some strange tardigrade like feature that allows them to survive extreme cold?
5. What do you think it is about sound that disrupts Venom's physiology. Fire I can understand, but the sound, I'm not so sure, I don't think it's as simple as how humans hate some sounds more than others.
-Sorry for the long comment, I was just very fascinated and did quite a lot of physiology study, so this really interests me a lot.
Great question James (and I hope you're watching my entire series!).
1. Teeth: Probably bone phosphate or keratin?
2. Yes the tongue nodules were inspired by alveoli! Don't know about metabolites though.
3. Yes, Symbiotes can breathe through their skin anywhere, and especially when they changes shape, I'm willing to bet they open up in microscopic ways all over.
4. Yes, definitely, I think they're a self-contained system and can survive in a vacuum for enhances periods.
5. I'm not sure why sound does it, but as a creature without dedicated eyeballs/noses etc, I think they rely a great deal on vibration to "feel" reality itself, so I think sound waves really throw off their internal mechanisms, why may be microscopic in nature (as opposed to be macroscopic organs), and are constantly reliant on these mechanisms to constantly adjust itself. So it's possible that they can't regulate their systems and they lose their shit *on a cellular level.*
@@JonahLobeDraws, thanks so much for looking into it! It's so cool to see what the physiology is like in the Marvel universe.