I found card counting easy. The difficult thing was to maintain a casual demeanor, avoid the appearance of excessive, patterned purposeful eye movement, and keep going for long enough to make it pay without getting exhausted, losing concentration or just getting fed up.
Sure. Counting cards IS easy. What's hard is avoiding the heat while keeping the count but not getting tilted by all of the many distractions like other players doing things that annoy you, cocktail waitresses coming around to interrupt your game and those incessant machines constantly going off. And then there's the issue that unless you're winning almost every hand you play, they're gonna see the fact that you're raising your bets when you win and lowering them when you lose. And that's pretty hard to disguise.
@@Hawksforever99 100% . . .how do you raise your bet 3-4X , without being noticed . . .card counting a great tool . to get the GENERAL feel of the deck , that alone can give you an edge on doing a bad double, with a low count . . .or when you can hit 12 vs anything ..other than that . . forget it . . . so a simple count system is the best , just get get the feel . . . die hard card counters are just cultist . .. shlt is STILL gambling
exactly. winning players tip more. you want players to win. even if the counter tips less than other winners, he still tips more than losing players do. youre getting less tips by snitching, and you dont get any reward by snitching
@@JohnSmith-dm8ly no. Counters NEVER tip. I'm wasting space at my table if I can have someone who actually tips fill that spot. I have all incentive to "snitch" aka do my job and get them off my table. Also, I've had losing players tip me $25 when they lose. I can't think of a single card counter that's ever tipped.
@@ImGettinWeird what got me out of that game was the fact that it was a flat gain, so to speak: all that effort with no growth….and then the inevitable: getting kicked out. If you have a good mind, there are much more fruitful ways to put it to use than trying to eke out scraps from the slime mold of corporate America.
Casinos don’t want a fast game to throw off card counters they want a fast game for the same reasons card counters do. 1 more hand an hour can easily be hundreds of thousands of dollars for the casino over the course of the year.
Exactly. For every 1 card counter, there are 99 non card counters ( not exact, just representation ). For every dollar that the card counter makes ( let`s say a 1.5% more for the counter and 0.5% more for the cassino ), the cassino makes 33
@@persistantcontender8528 yeah I know, but he's saying the cut card limits card counting success, which is true but I don't think you can find a table that doesn't have a cut card towards the end of the shoe
First sentence of the video is false. Card counters do not win more hands than they lose. They have higher bets on more hands that they win than hands that they lose so they end up with a net positive in cash. They still lose more hands then they win.
They have around 5% edge over the casino, meaning, in the long run they win around 5% more hands than they lose. The changes in the bets are there for generating higher EV
If you are winning over time, an showing a pattern indicating the casino is likely to lose money to you, it is easy for them to refuse you service. There are also casinos that use continuous shuffle shoes, with 7 decks, and the cards going back in after every hand. Pretty well impossible to count in those cases.
im being pedantic but the amount of decks never matters. It matters in the sense there are slight strategic variations one should adjust to. 100 deck shoes aren't any harder to count on than single deck shoes if you're follow standard Hi-Lo counting practicing. Continuous shuffle obviously completely kills the ability to count. Whether it's single deck or 16 deck shoes. It's still not incredibly common though because 1 it can slow the game down which isn't made up for by the saved revenue from eliminating counters and 2 regular gamblers hate things like that. To them there's a greater chance the Casino is "cheating"
@MrJoosebawkz agreed. The money making trend I've noticed is to eliminate the dealer, and physical cards altogether, and put it all in a custom arcade machine (video lottery terminals, etc)
7? 6 and 8 are fairly standard, but I've never in my life heard of a 7-deck game. Tracking wins over time would require some way of tracking those wins over a time long enough to rule out random variance, and without a player's card, that's impossible for casinos to do
@@noThankyou-g5c I don't think you're right. If you're counting how many of each number have come up and there's 5,200 cards that's going to be a lot harder to count than 52 or even 374 (7 decks) (because messing up will affect you for longer/you need to play longer at the same level of aggression to win). Plus, the variance will be less significant ie: dealing 4 fours with one deck means there are no more fours. In 100 decks there's still 96 cards or like roughly the same chance to pull a card
@@solsystem1342 You have a misunderstanding of what counting cards means. You’re not literally counting how much each card comes out. thats not rlly something humans are capable of. You should look up the hi-lo counting system. it’s the standard system that yhe most successful counters use. it’s very simple. all you ever do is add or subtract a single number in ur head +/-1 (well theres a few other things but thats the full extent of the counting/tracking aspect to card counting)
@NexSkala This. If they are watching you on screen and keeping track of the count themselves, even mid shoe, they will notice your patterns quite easily. They don't always back you off immediately. The greatest joy they get is watching an AP lose to a lucky dealer.
A card counter really have to be patient waiting for the count go up in a shoe. Finally when they have a high count the shoe is changed. So is it really worth the while?
Yes, it's very much worth it. Flat lining your bet while the count is low, or even going below your minimum to just "hang out" can add to the disguise.
Do dealers really care whether a player is counting? Seems like there would be more that don’t care or respect the skill than those that are so loyal to their employers that they would alert surveillance.
I've seen dealers who will rat you out. Not only dealers but other players. Colin from BJA has a video about players and dealers snitching on him. Steven has a video where dealer announced a "card counter" at the table which is why bet spread was reduced and players starting pitching about him. Some people just wake up drinking haterade and believe casinos when they say "card counter bad!". It's part ignorance and part corporate worship.
Any dealer, pit boss and security experts can spot a card counter in about 30-60 minutes, then they just back you off and say you cant play anymore if they see you trying it again they ban you and inform other casinos and you are in the ban book.
I'm a dealer, and besides management, I can't imagine many other dealers giving a shit if someone is counting. I want you to win by any means other than cheating.
Can't they play in pairs, one person sits at the table or a while and always bets minimum, and keeps the count. Then the other player joins when the count is high and bets big. Or is this then considered illegal?
not really just like you can talk to other players and give advice signals do the same thing. if a casino tries to get you for this it will not even stand in court
those tables are usually empty... good job casinos you wasted so much money to prevent 1/100000 player that can win and missed out of 99999 potential victims. There is a reason you only see them as 5-10 dollar tables
I am looking into card counting. I bought the recommended books. My idea is not to win big, and to try to fly under the radar as a single player. Never make more than 1k per session and cash out. The way I see it, I only make 200-300 a day at my regular job, so anything above that amount is a win for me. The objective is to supplement my retirement. Take my meager winnings and put them into a dividend stock portfolio with DRIP. All to retire early and fish. I am 40, and I am aiming to retire at 58. I would only go on my days off, and I would try to go to a different casino each day off.
Sounds like you've got a feasible and realistic plan that's tailored to your situation brother! I hope you really put the practise in to get good and it all ends up working out for you! Best of luck friend
You should watch Steven's videos for sure. One thing casinos do is ask for ID if they get suspicious. It might not be at that level now, but if that is your real name, this comment could theoretically be linked to a profile on you, in particular a profile advertising companies keep for serving relevant ads, but that casinos could be interested in for other reasons. You should also know there is a psychological... idk the word, quirk for most people where if they tell others their plans they get a little reward like they actually accomplished them rather than getting that feeling from doing it. It is better to quietly do your plan rather than tell people about it, even though that feeling is a good one.
Yes the #1 deterrent they use is the "ID dance" at the cage. They will eventually pay out but only after you have gone around and around with them for a half hour.
I think most counters aren't that familiar with gamblers. Gamblers always act very different to counters and if you want to increase your bet naturally just double it from the previous hand. It will only take 2 hands to be at 8x your bets. This is called "Pressing" your bets. Even doing 16x if you have the bankroll for it is fine as long as you sweat it super hard. Many degens will do things like this to get max heart attack when playing and won't get backed off ever.
Pressing your bet allows you to increase your bet when the true count is high enough. Bet spreads are only mathematically minimizing your risk of ruin, if you are playing in your means pressing can help add cover without losing ev. If you think bet spreads help you win more money, then you don't understand basic math. As soon as you have an edge you should bet table max to maximize ev. Since no one is doing that, no one is maximizing their ev. They are only minimizing their risk of ruin. @@bjccounter5810
@@DustinJames-mk1gl taking a slightly lower EV can keep u in business much longer than playing maximum EV. They're going to catch on right away and ban u
Anyone who believes you cannot be proficient enough to do some mental gymnastics while holding your attention in a conversation… needs to go practice sleight of hand tricks. Just practice til you can do it without looking. Then practice in a mirror until it looks like your natural movement. Then go for a conversation. Magicians and cheats do this all the time, it’s no different here. Just a matter of discipline and patience to master the technique.
Ex bartender here. This may have worked to get them market share 100 years ago. Put bars generally buy and get Stuart because it's the only thing available plus tradition. Bar setups are very traditional. You will see galliano in every bar because it is a cool-looking bottle and it is traditional .. despite the fact you won't empty that bottle over a 10-year period. The same is true of high-end cognac etc. it is more about ambience. 99% of drinks use well Brand plus whatever shot is popular at the moment like jagermeister or fireball
No. It's impossible to build a long-term edge in Baccarat or Roulette. Plenty of people will try and convince you otherwise, but the truth is that both games are nothing more than coin flips. Why should you trust my opinion? Because gambling is one of my hobbies and I've exhausted too many hours trying to find edges in most casino games. Stay away from Baccarat and Roulette if you're trying to win. They're fun but losing games.
@@proseabyss it is possible to beat at Baccarat if you are able to read the patterns, there's Mikki Mase who has beaten casinos constantly at Baccarat
@@zerobits4763 mikki is an obvious scammer, there are no "patterns" when the cards are random what are you talking about, also do you really think he is that smart that somehow he is the only human in our history to figure out how to beat the game? thats just silly. his father is incredibly wealthy thats how he has his money. on another note, would you think that a winning player would play games where he is -ev? and play them for millions? beacuse thats what mikki does when he plays poker, hes a complete whale just look at his hustler casino public stats for poker he lost over 1 million before never showing up again
Haven't watched the video yet. Here's my take. Card counting tells the counter if there are more high cards left, so he's more likely to get a big hand drawn, but so is the dealer. So he'll be able to make more for a while but when he crashes, he'll crash that much harder.
Guys.. you can’t count cards successfully anymore the cameras are also counting the cards. All the surveillance has to do is monitor your betting amounts with the count…. The count is displayed at every table on their monitors. If they notice your bets are going up massively on high counts. They will back you off. It’s like the military. It’s compartmentalized. The dealer the pit boss doesn’t even know the tech they are using. There’s different security levels to this industry. That’s how they catch counters before they actually win enough to screw up a quarter report
for me its better to have high cards showing, that's the time I bet big, if the last cards is high like 10, king or aces, its time to bet big, simple as that no need card counting.
this is terrible logic...the same as the buy high sell low of the stock market meme. if you are going to half ass it you should wait for a hand where a TON of low cards came out THEN bet big next hand.
10:39 I don't think backing off people is unfair. Becuase you can imagine casinos as players as well, they only offer games that you lose becuase those are the game you win. So once you are winning. I say it's a bit unfair that they have to let you continue playing. That's like forcing someone to play roulette or another losing game, because in that case the casino is losing.
Sure it's unfair, when you think the casinos only want you playing when they know they have the advantage, They ONLY WANT LOSERS. It's like a kid in the neighborhood who is the by far the best football player and he just destroys kids all day long, but when a new kid comes along who is bigger, faster, stronger....just way better, then he tells the new kid that he can't play. But then he wants to continue beating the absolute crap out of the other kids. Just look at the videos of the nasty backoffs. The one where they treat the counter like a criminal. It's unfair. But I get it, it's their house. They can do what they want. I'll just leave, no biggie,....but it's still unfair. They are bullies and brats.
I've met so many destroyed familes becasue of their gambling addiction. Loss of houses, spouse's, children & Vehicle's. What I'm hearing is, its okay for the casinos to trick you into thinking you can actually win! So its okay for a car salesman to trick you into buying a Lemon. Its his Lot/House as you say. Doesnt matter if it takes money off the table or prevents you from buying your child clothes. Good Luck
You’re right, it’s not fair, but that’s the point. None of the games in a casino are “fair.” The Casino always has an edge (except in rare cases like card counting.) The problem is that casinos are smart enough to only play when they have an advantage, while gamblers aren’t. If gamblers were smart they would understand this and not play just like the casinos.
You’re right, it’s not fair, but that’s the point. None of the games in a casino are “fair.” The Casino always has an edge (except in rare cases like card counting.) The problem is that casinos are smart enough to only play when they have an advantage, while gamblers aren’t. If gamblers were smart they would understand this and not play just like the casinos.
You’re right, it’s not fair, but that’s the point. None of the games in a casino are “fair.” The Casino always has an edge (except in rare cases like card counting.) The problem is that casinos are smart enough to only play when they have an advantage, while gamblers aren’t. If gamblers were smart they would understand this and not play just like the casinos.
"Win more than half the games they play" is actually incorrect. The sum of their wins will OVERCOME the losses they have because with proper bet sizing and playing strategy, they can overcome the casino's edge in a fair game...and do so more quickly in a QUALITY game.
I love the "it's not illegal BUT we are going to prevent you from doing it" I think the best hedge you can have for the casino, is NOT going, you are just better off not losing your 100$ there, I genuinely think there is way better activity you can have for that amount rather than a 30 minutes play time
"Card Counters" can't bankrupt casinos because there are probably less than 100 successful so called counters in the entire world and they don't play at the same casinos too often. (EDIT) Did I say 100? Opps! My bad. I meant 50 !
@@BobSTK there are forums with hundreds of active APs that talk about blackjack. It really isnt very difficult and theres a LOT of free resources to learn online
Overrated, few in the world stick to the systems - card counting is just hollywood bullshlt . . . its a long boring , yet high risk job . ..even the BEST card counters can drop 100 grand in a month - playing perfectly . . .
The biggest problem is more card shuffle machines Here in europe they don't shuffle by hand anymore The edge is a few percent up to 10 maybe But you need a big bankroll
@@tjeerddejong8185 even with a shoe - they are RIGGED against basic strag . .. see how many times your 10/2 gets busted vs 7/8/9/10 . . . .then under the dealers card-- is a small card
I was playing recently in vegas at the tropicana, i went on a roll, nothing major just started winning more than i was losing and i was fluctuating my bets when I noticed more small cards came out and the dealer had a 20 or better the previous hand id bet more in hopes of catching high cards and i would..the pit boss came over and talked to the dealer in a different language while smirking at me and continuing to wish me luck, soon after the cards started coming out differently than before. And by NO MEANS can i COUNT CARDS OR CONSIDER MYSELF A COUNTER. I was simply paying attention to what was coming out as well as what the dealer was pulling and id play based on those things. I left after a few hands of noticing the cards were out of whack, mind you it was like 4am and i had meetings at 8am. Same type of scenario happened the night after at the red rock 🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Completely random. LV casinos have softwares to count cards along with the player. Counts high. Player bets big. Counts down. Player lowers bet. Its a not hard to track.
@@bjccounter5810 Man, I just don't get it when people accuse casinos of rigging games. They're already making boatloads of money because they have an edge; why risk rigging games? If people found out that was happening, the casino would lose so much business and the Gaming Control Board would have a field day with them. Also, the guy had a good run and then started running bad. I feel like it's that's just variance, not the game being rigged against him lmao.
The edge in card counting is so small (sometimes less than 1%) that you need a huge bankroll and big bets to make more than a minimum hourly wage. The best card counter in the world playing in a 10$ table is better off just working at mcDonalds.
Not even close if casino will allow any bet pattern someone like this guy would walk away a multi millionaire every year...but simply cant because casino spot them in less than an hour
Start with a running count of 0. Whenever you see a 2-6 add 1 to your running count, whenever you see a T-A take away 1 from your running count. Before the start of each hand, consider the true count. The true count is the running count divided by an estimate of the number of decks in the shoe, so if it’s the 3rd hand of a 7 deck shoe maybe you take your running count divided by 6.5. As you play more it will become easier to estimate how many decks are remaining. If the true count is high(like 2 or 3), bet larger. I believe a general size that works is 1x bet per count. If the count is 0 or negative bet the minimum to get another hand dealt, or ideally change tables. This method of betting ensures you bet the most when you are more likely to make blackjack, and the minimum when you are least likely. Consider an idealized game where there are 3 Ts and 1 A. If the player and dealer take turns getting blackjack the player will win because blackjack pays 3:2, but when the dealer gets blackjack you only lose 1 bet. As the true count increases, you approach this idealized variant and should bet more. Of course you must also play perfect basic strategy, and optionally deviate as the count changes(like the splitting TT play from the video)
You need a doctors signature to use steroids, but once you have that is it 100% legal to use them while competing in the Olympics, but if you get caught you will be permantly banned from competing again.
You guys must have forgot about the baccarat team that was using a hidden camera to record the shoe during the placing of the cut card. LISTEN. I'm not saying that's what he is doing. But, the casino can't read his mind to know what exactly his intent is when he's using a hidden camera and wearing disguises (not very good at it by the way) attempting to conceal his identity. Also, you need to remember the difference between Metro laws and Nevada Gaming Commission laws. My last comment. Why should I care what he does. Good luck.
@@ochenhetree if they keep letting him play he not an advantage player. Look at the casinos suing Ivey over a few million. You think would let a normal high roller take millions for years and not ban him? At 50k a hand you’re either making the game uncountable or you hire a dedicated pit boss just to watch the only table. On top of that they have the real names for any one playing at those stakes. If they keep winning, they will figure out if he counting.
you say in dating you want to stand out, you dont, im autistic and i stand out from the normal arpoach and its never wworked for me, if i was a regular guy i would have load of dates.
Total paranoia. Back story? No one gives a crap until you're winning too much. People win from time to time. They aren't concerned until you get up over a certain amount. If you're still playing after that you're a fool and deserve to get backed off.
Yes, counting cards is legal... But using an electronic device at a gaming table while counting is not. Your little hidden body cam is going to get you in a heap of trouble! You've been warned.
Not here to brag, but after 6months beeing casino dealer, i was able to beat card counters all the time, and where i was we had some high level folks known for making a living out of it. At some point some of them would quit when they see me arrive on table😅
@@raynewlan9508 well, gamblers they beat themselves 😂🤣, casino got the odds. For counters honestly they are not that many that are good, and within half a sixain i can spot them. After that it's just a mind game, i know how to tickle them and it doesn't take long for them to be back on bad habits. As i said i was a casino dealer, not the owner, so no, i didn't make shit ton of money out of it, actually was paid like McDonald cook, part of the reason i quit.
@@michaelblankenau6598 well i'm sorry to disturb your beliefs. As explained above, dealer don't even need to try as regular players got beaten by the odds over time, and there is nothing you can do there. Counters they bend odds but it cost and need great focus while tryin act normal...And that's where i got them, play the mind game and get them back on gamblers tracks or make them quit. I bet you also think that peoples behavior never been influanced by advertising. Or propaganda isn't real.
@@jeorgessportocontes768 What the hell are you babbling about ? Blackjack dealers don’t make any decisions . So they don’t do anything to beat players . The rules of the game are what beats the player . Not the guy standing there dealing out the hands .
Buying in with cash time after time? If you’re trying to keep a low profile you are not doing a good job…go to the cage and buy 20,000 in chips, no cameras, and you have at least one camera less on you!
I found card counting easy. The difficult thing was to maintain a casual demeanor, avoid the appearance of excessive, patterned purposeful eye movement, and keep going for long enough to make it pay without getting exhausted, losing concentration or just getting fed up.
Sure. Counting cards IS easy. What's hard is avoiding the heat while keeping the count but not getting tilted by all of the many distractions like other players doing things that annoy you, cocktail waitresses coming around to interrupt your game and those incessant machines constantly going off. And then there's the issue that unless you're winning almost every hand you play, they're gonna see the fact that you're raising your bets when you win and lowering them when you lose. And that's pretty hard to disguise.
@@Hawksforever99 Exactly!
@@Hawksforever99 100% . . .how do you raise your bet 3-4X , without being noticed . . .card counting a great tool . to get the GENERAL feel of the deck , that alone can give you an edge on doing a bad double, with a low count . . .or when you can hit 12 vs anything ..other than that . . forget it . . . so a simple count system is the best , just get get the feel . . . die hard card counters are just cultist . .. shlt is STILL gambling
@@ocjon1965 You don't raise it all at once if you're trying to go un-noticed. You stair step. Might be not quite optimal but you might last longer.
Footerman? Hardly know him!
Im a dealer and and not only do i not care if youre counting, i hope you are and would never tell on you lol
this guy gets it
I care because they never tip so im gonna deal as fast as i can to back their cheap asses off my table.
exactly. winning players tip more. you want players to win. even if the counter tips less than other winners, he still tips more than losing players do. youre getting less tips by snitching, and you dont get any reward by snitching
@@JohnSmith-dm8ly no. Counters NEVER tip. I'm wasting space at my table if I can have someone who actually tips fill that spot. I have all incentive to "snitch" aka do my job and get them off my table.
Also, I've had losing players tip me $25 when they lose. I can't think of a single card counter that's ever tipped.
@@ImGettinWeird what got me out of that game was the fact that it was a flat gain, so to speak: all that effort with no growth….and then the inevitable: getting kicked out. If you have a good mind, there are much more fruitful ways to put it to use than trying to eke out scraps from the slime mold of corporate America.
Casinos don’t want a fast game to throw off card counters they want a fast game for the same reasons card counters do. 1 more hand an hour can easily be hundreds of thousands of dollars for the casino over the course of the year.
i work as a blackjack dealer and what u said is 100% right
Exactly. For every 1 card counter, there are 99 non card counters ( not exact, just representation ). For every dollar that the card counter makes ( let`s say a 1.5% more for the counter and 0.5% more for the cassino ), the cassino makes 33
This is the weirdest comment section ever ...
Lol, you’re not wrong. Twilight zone shit hahaha
For real.
In the US the dealers dont deal cards to the end of the shoe. They stop much earlier. This limits the card counting success.
counters use deck penetration as part of their ev calculation
I couldn't imagine anywhere having a blackjack game where you may run out of cards mid hand. I imagine everywhere has a cut card placed near the end
@@ImGettinWeird If you hit the card mid hand you throw it away and deal the rest of the hand before reshuffling
@@persistantcontender8528 yeah I know, but he's saying the cut card limits card counting success, which is true but I don't think you can find a table that doesn't have a cut card towards the end of the shoe
@@ImGettinWeird that statement was matter-of-fact. He's not suggesting that you'll ever find a non cut card shoe game in a casino.
First sentence of the video is false. Card counters do not win more hands than they lose. They have higher bets on more hands that they win than hands that they lose so they end up with a net positive in cash. They still lose more hands then they win.
They have around 5% edge over the casino, meaning, in the long run they win around 5% more hands than they lose. The changes in the bets are there for generating higher EV
If you are winning over time, an showing a pattern indicating the casino is likely to lose money to you, it is easy for them to refuse you service. There are also casinos that use continuous shuffle shoes, with 7 decks, and the cards going back in after every hand. Pretty well impossible to count in those cases.
im being pedantic but the amount of decks never matters. It matters in the sense there are slight strategic variations one should adjust to. 100 deck shoes aren't any harder to count on than single deck shoes if you're follow standard Hi-Lo counting practicing. Continuous shuffle obviously completely kills the ability to count. Whether it's single deck or 16 deck shoes. It's still not incredibly common though because 1 it can slow the game down which isn't made up for by the saved revenue from eliminating counters and 2 regular gamblers hate things like that. To them there's a greater chance the Casino is "cheating"
@MrJoosebawkz agreed. The money making trend I've noticed is to eliminate the dealer, and physical cards altogether, and put it all in a custom arcade machine (video lottery terminals, etc)
7? 6 and 8 are fairly standard, but I've never in my life heard of a 7-deck game. Tracking wins over time would require some way of tracking those wins over a time long enough to rule out random variance, and without a player's card, that's impossible for casinos to do
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I don't think you're right. If you're counting how many of each number have come up and there's 5,200 cards that's going to be a lot harder to count than 52 or even 374 (7 decks) (because messing up will affect you for longer/you need to play longer at the same level of aggression to win). Plus, the variance will be less significant ie: dealing 4 fours with one deck means there are no more fours. In 100 decks there's still 96 cards or like roughly the same chance to pull a card
@@solsystem1342 You have a misunderstanding of what counting cards means. You’re not literally counting how much each card comes out. thats not rlly something humans are capable of.
You should look up the hi-lo counting system. it’s the standard system that yhe most successful counters use. it’s very simple. all you ever do is add or subtract a single number in ur head +/-1 (well theres a few other things but thats the full extent of the counting/tracking aspect to card counting)
I'm learning to count cards and I found this video very helpful! I can't wait to implement your camouflage lessons!
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Why aren't casinos bankrupt? 50% penetration when needed. Video over, good luck, thank you for watching
So I will just have to skip showering for a week and act drunk at the table. Got it.
It's your betting pattern that will give you away.
@@NexSkala that's why you throw in 1-2 dollar side bet then surveillance or the PB will think you are just another gambler
@@Thesinistereyes1easier said than done to do this enough to lose suspicion while also keeping your ev
@NexSkala
This. If they are watching you on screen and keeping track of the count themselves, even mid shoe, they will notice your patterns quite easily.
They don't always back you off immediately. The greatest joy they get is watching an AP lose to a lucky dealer.
A card counter really have to be patient waiting for the count go up in a shoe. Finally when they have a high count the shoe is changed. So is it really worth the while?
Not really, cuz you look like a cheat when you up your wager and win..
Yes, it's very much worth it. Flat lining your bet while the count is low, or even going below your minimum to just "hang out" can add to the disguise.
Yes it's worth it to bet larger when the deck is more in your favor, what kind of question is that ?
Did you miss the part about them making +$175,000 in three weeks?
If you enjoy it I think so. I only play poker in the casino and if I didn't do that I'd only play ap blackjack
Do dealers really care whether a player is counting? Seems like there would be more that don’t care or respect the skill than those that are so loyal to their employers that they would alert surveillance.
They usually dont, they want you to win. More tips for them
Like any job, impress your boss and get preferential shifts and job opportunities
@@Jorhan scarry!!!
I've seen dealers who will rat you out. Not only dealers but other players. Colin from BJA has a video about players and dealers snitching on him. Steven has a video where dealer announced a "card counter" at the table which is why bet spread was reduced and players starting pitching about him.
Some people just wake up drinking haterade and believe casinos when they say "card counter bad!". It's part ignorance and part corporate worship.
@@YUWHACK counters almost never tip though it throws off their advantage. getting rid of counters would increase their possible tips
Any dealer, pit boss and security experts can spot a card counter in about 30-60 minutes, then they just back you off and say you cant play anymore if they see you trying it again they ban you and inform other casinos and you are in the ban book.
Beat the casino out of 750 k usd so far
I'm a dealer, and besides management, I can't imagine many other dealers giving a shit if someone is counting. I want you to win by any means other than cheating.
30:30 But there are also studies that show the exact opposite is true, recency bias essentially gives the opposite conclusion
23:41 Except irish, he drinks in the morning 🤣
Can't they play in pairs, one person sits at the table or a while and always bets minimum, and keeps the count. Then the other player joins when the count is high and bets big. Or is this then considered illegal?
not really just like you can talk to other players and give advice signals do the same thing. if a casino tries to get you for this it will not even stand in court
It is not illegal and is commonly done.
Steven has videos doing this exact thing
bedause only 1 in 10,000 people can count cards and play the game correctly and bet correctly and have a sufficient bankroll
Hasn’t the automatic shufflers eliminated this advantage
most places don’t use those
those tables are usually empty... good job casinos you wasted so much money to prevent 1/100000 player that can win and missed out of 99999 potential victims.
There is a reason you only see them as 5-10 dollar tables
Every casino I went to in Macau, Philippines and Singapore uses the automatic continuous shufflers.
A lot of gamblers are suspicious of automatic shufflers, so casinos don't like to use them.
I am looking into card counting. I bought the recommended books.
My idea is not to win big, and to try to fly under the radar as a single player.
Never make more than 1k per session and cash out.
The way I see it, I only make 200-300 a day at my regular job, so anything above that amount is a win for me. The objective is to supplement my retirement. Take my meager winnings and put them into a dividend stock portfolio with DRIP. All to retire early and fish. I am 40, and I am aiming to retire at 58.
I would only go on my days off, and I would try to go to a different casino each day off.
Sounds like you've got a feasible and realistic plan that's tailored to your situation brother! I hope you really put the practise in to get good and it all ends up working out for you! Best of luck friend
You should watch Steven's videos for sure. One thing casinos do is ask for ID if they get suspicious. It might not be at that level now, but if that is your real name, this comment could theoretically be linked to a profile on you, in particular a profile advertising companies keep for serving relevant ads, but that casinos could be interested in for other reasons.
You should also know there is a psychological... idk the word, quirk for most people where if they tell others their plans they get a little reward like they actually accomplished them rather than getting that feeling from doing it. It is better to quietly do your plan rather than tell people about it, even though that feeling is a good one.
Let me know when Elvis gets there.
I think finding a new formula on Excel is a fun Friday night. What does that make me?
Do they ID once you are making money
Yes the #1 deterrent they use is the "ID dance" at the cage. They will eventually pay out but only after you have gone around and around with them for a half hour.
When they're about to back you off that's their go to question. Steven has a lot of videos covering the day to day of a card counter
I think of Rain Man and Hangover
I think most counters aren't that familiar with gamblers. Gamblers always act very different to counters and if you want to increase your bet naturally just double it from the previous hand. It will only take 2 hands to be at 8x your bets. This is called "Pressing" your bets. Even doing 16x if you have the bankroll for it is fine as long as you sweat it super hard. Many degens will do things like this to get max heart attack when playing and won't get backed off ever.
Not sticking to your betspread means lower EV.
I dont care what gamblers think or say, I'm taking every cent of EV I can make.
Not getting backed off is a different part of EV
You base your bet on the true count. Not by "pressing"
Pressing your bet allows you to increase your bet when the true count is high enough. Bet spreads are only mathematically minimizing your risk of ruin, if you are playing in your means pressing can help add cover without losing ev. If you think bet spreads help you win more money, then you don't understand basic math. As soon as you have an edge you should bet table max to maximize ev. Since no one is doing that, no one is maximizing their ev. They are only minimizing their risk of ruin. @@bjccounter5810
@@DustinJames-mk1gl taking a slightly lower EV can keep u in business much longer than playing maximum EV. They're going to catch on right away and ban u
Anyone who believes you cannot be proficient enough to do some mental gymnastics while holding your attention in a conversation… needs to go practice sleight of hand tricks. Just practice til you can do it without looking. Then practice in a mirror until it looks like your natural movement. Then go for a conversation. Magicians and cheats do this all the time, it’s no different here. Just a matter of discipline and patience to master the technique.
Is Spanish 21 beatable?
Yes.
I've never noticed Angostura before
Ex bartender here. This may have worked to get them market share 100 years ago.
Put bars generally buy and get Stuart because it's the only thing available plus tradition.
Bar setups are very traditional. You will see galliano in every bar because it is a cool-looking bottle and it is traditional .. despite the fact you won't empty that bottle over a 10-year period. The same is true of high-end cognac etc. it is more about ambience. 99% of drinks use well Brand plus whatever shot is popular at the moment like jagermeister or fireball
so you've never seen rain man?
Anyone know if there "card counter" in Baccarat ? Roulette ? ?? I mean , can anyone beat the House Edge in Baccarat and Roulette ?
😂
No. It's impossible to build a long-term edge in Baccarat or Roulette. Plenty of people will try and convince you otherwise, but the truth is that both games are nothing more than coin flips. Why should you trust my opinion? Because gambling is one of my hobbies and I've exhausted too many hours trying to find edges in most casino games. Stay away from Baccarat and Roulette if you're trying to win. They're fun but losing games.
@@proseabyss it is possible to beat at Baccarat if you are able to read the patterns, there's Mikki Mase who has beaten casinos constantly at Baccarat
@@zerobits4763 those patterns actually mean nothing.
@@zerobits4763 mikki is an obvious scammer, there are no "patterns" when the cards are random what are you talking about, also do you really think he is that smart that somehow he is the only human in our history to figure out how to beat the game? thats just silly. his father is incredibly wealthy thats how he has his money. on another note, would you think that a winning player would play games where he is -ev? and play them for millions? beacuse thats what mikki does when he plays poker, hes a complete whale just look at his hustler casino public stats for poker he lost over 1 million before never showing up again
All casinos should be forced to show this entry rule -> only mugs are welcome.
Haven't watched the video yet. Here's my take. Card counting tells the counter if there are more high cards left, so he's more likely to get a big hand drawn, but so is the dealer. So he'll be able to make more for a while but when he crashes, he'll crash that much harder.
If casinos don’t want people to count cards why don’t they just implement a shoe that shuffles the cards in every table?
They do. They're called continuous shuffle machines.
Card counting is literally first grade addition and subtraction
Guys.. you can’t count cards successfully anymore the cameras are also counting the cards. All the surveillance has to do is monitor your betting amounts with the count…. The count is displayed at every table on their monitors. If they notice your bets are going up massively on high counts. They will back you off.
It’s like the military. It’s compartmentalized. The dealer the pit boss doesn’t even know the tech they are using. There’s different security levels to this industry. That’s how they catch counters before they actually win enough to screw up a quarter report
You may not bankrupt or disrupt a casinos earnings, but you can definitely make a nice amount of money for yourself.
This dude is literally still counting
So card counting barely works with one or two decks right? And doesn’t work with any decks like six decks.
It works with either, but with fewer decks the count will fluctuate much faster than with six to eight deck games.
6 decks is easier to get true count imo
@@itschrishickshow is that possibly true?
@@itschrishicks complete nonsense...
@@susanwhite7474 maybe he meant, a positive count is easier to achieve the less decks are used?
Wouldn't he immediately get kicked out from facial recognition software?
A lot of times he does
He wears intricate disguises.
Steven wearing a micro bikini to be the opposite of the bitters
for me its better to have high cards showing, that's the time I bet big, if the last cards is high like 10, king or aces, its time to bet big, simple as that no need card counting.
this is terrible logic...the same as the buy high sell low of the stock market meme. if you are going to half ass it you should wait for a hand where a TON of low cards came out THEN bet big next hand.
This is the opposite of what you should do
are you serious?
I feel you don’t need to paraphrase what he said… I don’t need to hear it twice…
10:39 I don't think backing off people is unfair. Becuase you can imagine casinos as players as well, they only offer games that you lose becuase those are the game you win. So once you are winning. I say it's a bit unfair that they have to let you continue playing. That's like forcing someone to play roulette or another losing game, because in that case the casino is losing.
Sure it's unfair, when you think the casinos only want you playing when they know they have the advantage, They ONLY WANT LOSERS. It's like a kid in the neighborhood who is the by far the best football player and he just destroys kids all day long, but when a new kid comes along who is bigger, faster, stronger....just way better, then he tells the new kid that he can't play. But then he wants to continue beating the absolute crap out of the other kids. Just look at the videos of the nasty backoffs. The one where they treat the counter like a criminal. It's unfair. But I get it, it's their house. They can do what they want. I'll just leave, no biggie,....but it's still unfair. They are bullies and brats.
I've met so many destroyed familes becasue of their gambling addiction. Loss of houses, spouse's, children & Vehicle's. What I'm hearing is, its okay for the casinos to trick you into thinking you can actually win!
So its okay for a car salesman to trick you into buying a Lemon. Its his Lot/House as you say. Doesnt matter if it takes money off the table or prevents you from buying your child clothes. Good Luck
You’re right, it’s not fair, but that’s the point. None of the games in a casino are “fair.” The Casino always has an edge (except in rare cases like card counting.)
The problem is that casinos are smart enough to only play when they have an advantage, while gamblers aren’t.
If gamblers were smart they would understand this and not play just like the casinos.
You’re right, it’s not fair, but that’s the point. None of the games in a casino are “fair.” The Casino always has an edge (except in rare cases like card counting.)
The problem is that casinos are smart enough to only play when they have an advantage, while gamblers aren’t.
If gamblers were smart they would understand this and not play just like the casinos.
You’re right, it’s not fair, but that’s the point. None of the games in a casino are “fair.” The Casino always has an edge (except in rare cases like card counting.)
The problem is that casinos are smart enough to only play when they have an advantage, while gamblers aren’t.
If gamblers were smart they would understand this and not play just like the casinos.
If marketers want to avoid worn out phrases, why the obsession with AI?
That famous scene with Dustin Hoffmann playing the autistic brother (of Tom Cruise) kicking the casino in the nxxs was great!
"Win more than half the games they play" is actually incorrect.
The sum of their wins will OVERCOME the losses they have because with proper bet sizing and playing strategy, they can overcome the casino's edge in a fair game...and do so more quickly in a QUALITY game.
I love the "it's not illegal BUT we are going to prevent you from doing it"
I think the best hedge you can have for the casino, is NOT going, you are just better off not losing your 100$ there, I genuinely think there is way better activity you can have for that amount rather than a 30 minutes play time
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"Card Counters" can't bankrupt casinos because there are probably less than 100 successful so called counters in the entire world and they don't play at the same casinos too often. (EDIT) Did I say 100? Opps! My bad. I meant 50 !
50? Lmao theres at least a few thousand active APs in the states alone.
@@123-k8v LOL! You might just be right! But the correct term or name is "Dealers" !
@@BobSTK there are forums with hundreds of active APs that talk about blackjack. It really isnt very difficult and theres a LOT of free resources to learn online
@@123-k8v Huh? Do you think you're telling me something new? (Not to waste time) exactly what have "you learned" from a so called AP?
There are thousands, not 50
His disguises are so bad it’s laughable. Amazon detective kits.
34 minutes in, still don't know why the card counters can't bankrupt the Casinos. That makes this video click bait.
Overrated, few in the world stick to the systems - card counting is just hollywood bullshlt . . . its a long boring , yet high risk job . ..even the BEST card counters can drop 100 grand in a month - playing perfectly . . .
The biggest problem is more card shuffle machines
Here in europe they don't shuffle by hand anymore
The edge is a few percent up to 10 maybe
But you need a big bankroll
@@tjeerddejong8185 even with a shoe - they are RIGGED against basic strag . .. see how many times your 10/2 gets busted vs 7/8/9/10 . . . .then under the dealers card-- is a small card
I was playing recently in vegas at the tropicana, i went on a roll, nothing major just started winning more than i was losing and i was fluctuating my bets when I noticed more small cards came out and the dealer had a 20 or better the previous hand id bet more in hopes of catching high cards and i would..the pit boss came over and talked to the dealer in a different language while smirking at me and continuing to wish me luck, soon after the cards started coming out differently than before. And by NO MEANS can i COUNT CARDS OR CONSIDER MYSELF A COUNTER. I was simply paying attention to what was coming out as well as what the dealer was pulling and id play based on those things. I left after a few hands of noticing the cards were out of whack, mind you it was like 4am and i had meetings at 8am. Same type of scenario happened the night after at the red rock 🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Cards don't go "out of whack". Stop being stupid.
Completely random. LV casinos have softwares to count cards along with the player. Counts high. Player bets big. Counts down. Player lowers bet. Its a not hard to track.
What do you mean by cards being “out of whack”? I’m kind of confused what you’re implying here
@DS-qz2gu he's referring to "flow of the cards" there's a flip switched involved hahahaha
@@bjccounter5810 Man, I just don't get it when people accuse casinos of rigging games. They're already making boatloads of money because they have an edge; why risk rigging games? If people found out that was happening, the casino would lose so much business and the Gaming Control Board would have a field day with them.
Also, the guy had a good run and then started running bad. I feel like it's that's just variance, not the game being rigged against him lmao.
I thought they want to use forgettable language not unforgettable
The edge in card counting is so small (sometimes less than 1%) that you need a huge bankroll and big bets to make more than a minimum hourly wage. The best card counter in the world playing in a 10$ table is better off just working at mcDonalds.
Not even close if casino will allow any bet pattern someone like this guy would walk away a multi millionaire every year...but simply cant because casino spot them in less than an hour
why does the answer to this question need to be 35 minutes long?
If casinos are truly private why would they have to shut down during covid
If businesses of any kind are truly private, why would they have to have any safety standards or follow labor laws?
explain my when. l caunting cards on game. so when l must stop beting when l must and what l must know when l caunt
Start with a running count of 0. Whenever you see a 2-6 add 1 to your running count, whenever you see a T-A take away 1 from your running count.
Before the start of each hand, consider the true count. The true count is the running count divided by an estimate of the number of decks in the shoe, so if it’s the 3rd hand of a 7 deck shoe maybe you take your running count divided by 6.5. As you play more it will become easier to estimate how many decks are remaining.
If the true count is high(like 2 or 3), bet larger. I believe a general size that works is 1x bet per count. If the count is 0 or negative bet the minimum to get another hand dealt, or ideally change tables.
This method of betting ensures you bet the most when you are more likely to make blackjack, and the minimum when you are least likely. Consider an idealized game where there are 3 Ts and 1 A. If the player and dealer take turns getting blackjack the player will win because blackjack pays 3:2, but when the dealer gets blackjack you only lose 1 bet. As the true count increases, you approach this idealized variant and should bet more.
Of course you must also play perfect basic strategy, and optionally deviate as the count changes(like the splitting TT play from the video)
Nah you just spoiled the movie for no reason
You need a doctors signature to use steroids, but once you have that is it 100% legal to use them while competing in the Olympics, but if you get caught you will be permantly banned from competing again.
Betting on colours in roulette is 49/51 to the house with 0 included.
You guys must have forgot about the baccarat team that was using a hidden camera to record the shoe during the placing of the cut card. LISTEN. I'm not saying that's what he is doing. But, the casino can't read his mind to know what exactly his intent is when he's using a hidden camera and wearing disguises (not very good at it by the way) attempting to conceal his identity. Also, you need to remember the difference between Metro laws and Nevada Gaming Commission laws. My last comment. Why should I care what he does. Good luck.
@Steven Bridges come to Puerto Rico and let’s play poker together here
Sadly he is not a high stake counter.mid range at best.50 k usd per hand is high stakes
Loser comment
Nobody is going to let you count cards for 50k for very long.
Many people like Larry flint bets like this for many years now on blackjack still betting this way
@@ochenhetree if they keep letting him play he not an advantage player. Look at the casinos suing Ivey over a few million. You think would let a normal high roller take millions for years and not ban him? At 50k a hand you’re either making the game uncountable or you hire a dedicated pit boss just to watch the only table. On top of that they have the real names for any one playing at those stakes. If they keep winning, they will figure out if he counting.
@@alexPsanz he is an advantage player
Youchoob innit
because l don"t know what give my caunting l play caunt cards l and what this caunt give my
you say in dating you want to stand out, you dont, im autistic and i stand out from the normal arpoach and its never wworked for me, if i was a regular guy i would have load of dates.
Stick with it --- you will eventually find the right person who will appreciate who you are.
@@arvia1984 im 45 and havent yet.
lol get some fake neck tattoos and look like a biker 😂if your to clean cut you look to intelligent 😂look rough could help 😂
I lived in vegas for a while. And i agree that a dealer can beat a player if he or she wants and is allowed. Don't ask me why. I'm sure..
Ok tough guy 👍
Total paranoia. Back story? No one gives a crap until you're winning too much. People win from time to time. They aren't concerned until you get up over a certain amount. If you're still playing after that you're a fool and deserve to get backed off.
They at some point might notice the style of betting..... I know because when looking at stuff they say.....
Yes, counting cards is legal... But using an electronic device at a gaming table while counting is not. Your little hidden body cam is going to get you in a heap of trouble! You've been warned.
Ooooo scary.
@@idontwantahandlethanks Try it!
True statement. Casinos can even claim your phone as a cheating device. Let alone a paper and pencil.
Absolutely 100000% not true. He's recording with a camera, it's not illegal. Homie works for a casino or something spreading lies like these.
@@bjccounter5810you’re allowed a paper & pen
Not here to brag, but after 6months beeing casino dealer, i was able to beat card counters all the time, and where i was we had some high level folks known for making a living out of it. At some point some of them would quit when they see me arrive on table😅
So as a casino dealer, how do you "beat" a player...you must have made a fortune beating players. Killin it with those tips...😂
@@raynewlan9508 well, gamblers they beat themselves 😂🤣, casino got the odds. For counters honestly they are not that many that are good, and within half a sixain i can spot them. After that it's just a mind game, i know how to tickle them and it doesn't take long for them to be back on bad habits.
As i said i was a casino dealer, not the owner, so no, i didn't make shit ton of money out of it, actually was paid like McDonald cook, part of the reason i quit.
Don't believe you . Dealers don't beat players . They may as well be robots because they make no decisions .
@@michaelblankenau6598 well i'm sorry to disturb your beliefs. As explained above, dealer don't even need to try as regular players got beaten by the odds over time, and there is nothing you can do there. Counters they bend odds but it cost and need great focus while tryin act normal...And that's where i got them, play the mind game and get them back on gamblers tracks or make them quit.
I bet you also think that peoples behavior never been influanced by advertising. Or propaganda isn't real.
@@jeorgessportocontes768 What the hell are you babbling about ? Blackjack dealers don’t make any decisions . So they don’t do anything to beat players . The rules of the game are what beats the player . Not the guy standing there dealing out the hands .
Buying in with cash time after time? If you’re trying to keep a low profile you are not doing a good job…go to the cage and buy 20,000 in chips, no cameras, and you have at least one camera less on you!
????Card counting hardly works and takes way too long???? Why revealing the useless secrets for here now??