I’ll never be convinced that this isn’t a case of Munchausen by proxy. The mother’s actions and what she says about her daughter is absolutely bizarre. Having her daughter undress in public and recording it to post on the internet… god the list goes on and on. Eugenia isn’t the greatest person her self but my god that mother is abusive and thrives off of the attention and wealth shes gained from Eugenia.
Man Munchausen by proxy is definitely something to look into, I'm pretty familiar with the disorder but I had never made a connection, man you opened my eyes
oh, she's probably in charge of Eugenia's assets... She knows that freakishly-skinny-girl makes money, like a sideshow; people want to watch the trainwreck
Her mother claiming to have heart issues and using that to manipulate Eugenia is so sad because anorexia can often weaken the heart to the point of failure.
@@Mateowable Heart attack is the main cause of death for obese people, the mother is obese... They are 2 sides of the same coin, both have disordered eating
That doesn't mean a thing. A person can be just as under control as an adult. Especially if they've been conditioned to believe they will literally kill their mother if they recieve help or are apart. @@Desaree1
The rehab releasing Eugenia back into her moms care was criminally irresponsible…. She’s worse her before all that work to get her help wasted… Jaclyn did the hardest thing a friend can do. I was 5150d when my addiction had me over dosing 3 times a week. I was going to die but refused to admit it I was fucking furious… for 3 days. And I realized those 2 friends loved me so much they gambled out friendship, me hating them, me never speaking to them again just for me to get a chance at getting help. They saved me. My heart breaks for Eugenia. Her moms killing her
WANT TO GO VIRAL?Take the “ FREE EUGENIA CHALLENGE” : Wherever she is, call the police for a Welfare Check. Warn them that her mom, Debbie is getting rich by brainwashing and starving her daughter for views- thousands know they are watching a girl die. It’s gonna be soon unless they save her from that house she’s trapped in . Her parents should face charges of abuse and murder, but will keep living like royalty with her money unless you take action.
Friends are proper friends.friends should always speak the truth for the best for you no matter how much it hurts. I've got good friends who told me they knew I was using, they encouraged me to take time off work, get help. It was very painful for them and worried it would break the friendship. It didn't as I felt bad for putting them through years of worry, I felt selfish.im holding on to them tightly as know who much they love me, no matter what xx As a friend we shouldn't expect them to live with our harmful lies because it's enabling,they valued my life and did the right thing . people need to change how they think 😊
Not trying to victim blame here, she is undoubtedly a victim of narcissistic abuse and a toxic mother, if not to go as far as munchausen by proxy. But ultimately, she is a grown adult capable of making her own way, with her own money and (had, at least) friends. She's choosing not to escape at this point.
I don't think she recovered at all. She gained weight, but she clearly hated it and was not comfortable. So of course the moment she was discharged she went straight back to extreme restricting. Unfortunately in cases like this the person has to decide to help themselves, and it is very clear that EC is not ready.
Wouldn’t be surprised if her mom poisoned grandma too. Seemed the only person left that made Eugenia happy declined rather fast. Didn’t want anything near her money making daughter.
The fact that she claims she is not anorexic and is "naturally thin" but gained weight after returning from the 5150 psych stay is completely antithetical to her claims and shows that she is capable of gaining weight.
Yeah, no one is "naturally" that thin. My wife is naturally thin at 5'6" and 110; she eats more than i do at 160. She must think her audience is just completely brain dead.
She has said she is after the 5150 but it wasn't like straight up but she did say and also with Kati Morton like indirectly they confirmed ed. However yes she doesn't directly address it properly and its so frustrating and damaging when her content focuses on body image and clothes essentially. And then regarding her calling herself naturally thin in that clip I wish that video would be deleted or something because even if it's not actually an Ed it is definetly not natural in the way she's said. I know two girls with 2 different medical conditions that cause them to look exactly like her. However the thing about them is they receive care to keep their bones strong including steroids that cause face bloating and they don't rapidly loose and then gain visual weight the way she does online before and immediately after treatment. If she was atleast being taken care of for strength then she wouldn't look as unhealthy as she does whatever it is that is wrong. Her colour and rapid declines wouldn't be that way if she was properly looking after herself whatever it is that causes the thinness. It's so sad. I don't know what she's afraid of exactly but she shouldn't speak about it the way she has. There are good and safe ways to address or not address what's going on and her way is not it for sure 😔
It’s heartbreaking to see how much more lively and clear headed she was when she was in recovery, compared to now. You can’t convince me that her mom isn’t actively encouraging her eating disorder, any normal mother would be worried sick. I wish she could be charged with something, Eugenia is actively dying on her watch.
She was NEVER "in recovery". She gained some weight- she was not mentally in recovery at any point. You can tell by her body language that she's uncomfortable in her own skin.
I came here to say this, like I forgot how much better she looked and sounded, since she's back where she started now. She needed so much more help at that point.
@@christinewatson1989 As someone who’s been in eating disorder recovery recovery is just uncomfortable, I was never as underweight as she is and it still took me years to get used to my “new body” it’s going to take as long if not longer for someone whos anorexia is as bad as hers is. An inpatient facility cannot keep you there for years and years if the goal is to make you able to function on your own. You need to be able to adjust back to normal life or try, problem is Eugenia was never going back to a normal life with a supportive mother. When you leave treatment is the most critical and you’re very sensitive to relapse. Given the way her mother is, Eugenia didn’t have a chance no matter when she would have left so long as she was going back to her mom. Abuse and dysfunctional family caused my eating disorder and if I was suddenly thrown back into that situation I was in during childhood I would be anorexic again. If your eating disorder comes along as a result of a situation that situation is always going to be the sort of thing to trigger it, because that’s the only way you could cope. If that’s a situation nobody should have to be in the first place, there’s very little standard coping can help you with. It’s not just the psychological stuff and body image issues, it’s the physical feeling of being at a healthy weight that’s uncomfortable and hard to adjust to. The weight tends to gather mostly in your stomach before redistributing around your body, depending on your body type. But having body dysmorphia it usually will start to gain in what you consider your problem areas. Her not having sunken cheeks, joints and tendons visible is something that she would take multiple years to get used to. It’s like a drug addiction, in the years after recovery you’re at risk for relapse, when bad situations that you used drugs to cope with in the past start happening 10 or 20 years later you can relapse let alone going straight back to the hell she’s likely in. I know it’s a long response but I how this comment helps more people understand.
My best friend 12 years ago went behind my back, lied to me along with my parents to intervene with my drinking. I remember pulling up and seeing my dad and her telling me “please don’t be mad at me.” I was a bit embarrassed but relieved and happy to know she cared enough to go behind my back for my own good. Still best friend till this day. Sometimes it’s the only option.
It's funny how everyone who grew up with an abusive parent can see right through eugenia's mom, but people who have no idea what that is like are quickly to dismiss these claims.
Definitely! The mother is clearly controlling and manipulative. Eugenia seems to have Stockholm Syndrome. She’s solely dependent on her mother. Eugenia has no contact with the world outside of her bedroom. She’s completely isolated.
She knows it’s wrong but chooses to be in denial about it for the cameras. She doesn’t care about her own well being so she’ll project that onto her unfortunately.
what is she supposed to do? tie her to the bed and force feed her? She is 29! Time to take responsibility for your own life, she need to work through herself get help and make an effort!
Super, duper chilling. I absolutely agree. Eugenia has more than likely been told it is for her safety. I can imagine she is pretty scared of the world and people. She has been sheltered her whole life by a mother who doesn’t ever want to lose her closeness with her daughter. You’re not going to leave your cage if you’re trained to stay in it for your perceived safety and well-being.
and EC accepts packages straight to her house from fans....no longer using as p.o. box... she must have a death wish or she has been abused so long she doesn't know how to even experience fear and safety pre cautions, self preservation and even fight or flight..she is so "WHATEVER" about everything
WANT TO GO VIRAL?Take the “ FREE EUGENIA CHALLENGE” : Wherever she is, call the police for a Welfare Check. Warn them that her mom, Debbie is getting rich by brainwashing and starving her daughter for views- thousands know they are watching a girl die. It’s gonna be soon unless they save her from that house she’s trapped in . Her parents should face charges of abuse and murder, but will keep living like royalty with her money unless you take action.
It's chilling to see her next to her mom and listen to her mom just saying that everything is fine. Her arms are just bones and skin in that clip, in what world is that being fine
Especially when her mother is the size that she is. I’m not fat shamming at all but come on, how can you sit there and eat the way you do all while watching your child fade away in front of your eyes? I would be doing everything in my power to get my kid the help they so desperately need! But she can’t have the money flow stop either. That’s awful that the money and attention is more important than your child’s health 😡
Exactly... not to mention her skin is grey ( actually damn grey), also she & her mom say she's always been thin like this her whole life, yeah well I seem to remember when her face was full (, she actually looked really good like a normal healthy weight ) so that's a lie, I also seem to remember SHANE D. When he interviewed her that their was enough locks on that front door for anyone to struggle to get out, but when I saw the one ( like 2 longs boards ) the nom or whoever is the one that does it keeps those 2 boards across the door going through 2 brackets to hold in place, something EUGENIA wouldn't be able to remove at all ( like it's meant mainly for her ) she knows exactly what she's doing, so when ppl say she's manipulated by her mom she knows no better ( witch yes her mom does ) but EUGENIA knows what she does as well, her voice was NEVER like that ( don't think it's from her condition) but she does this baby voice ( ppl know on purpose ) and then she's always getting these weird sexy clothes ( sent to her from fans I guess ) but they look like it's really meant for a child ( well bc of her voice & how small the clothes are ) so the baby voice is sick on her part, also when they come on her streams & get her to sit on the floor & spin round & scoot towards the camera, she's just as manipulative imo & they get her to bend over either with her showing her chest "accidentally" or even the backside & private areas as well it's actually disgusting, lastly someone ( like these ppl with the fetishes ) they'll tell her some weird things, or even may say mean things & she's like "awww thank you that's so sweet" all I know is she is fully aware of what she's doing. Her mom I feel like she knows if EUGENIA was to leave the house without her really she knows someone will start talking to her ( maybe idk ) but possibly the mom would think they gone to undue all the manipulation she's done to her all these yrs, but when her mom ( bc for me sealed the deal was last I needed to see ) basically made her change in the middle of the store & ppl looking at that poor woman wondering why would a mom ( or anyone ) do this, her mom also knows if she goes to try & get help the moment stops at that point I guess & she already told her daughter that she'll die if she leaves to get treatment ( so seems like she may want help sometimes) but can't bc she guilt trips her, but as I been saying EUGENIA should've been got off the internet for a good while but her mom wont allow it &, she doesn't want to either. She needs the break & u think dear old mom would tell her daughter the same not film every single damn thing bc I truly believe if her mom said I want to bring u to get help honey I love u & here for u & get off the internet for a while EUGENIA may actually finally feel ok to do so, like when mom was "showing" her how to "drive" she look afraid of her mom like she is sick if it all, hope she gets the help one day I wish this not even on a enemy & but problem is she isn't even at a stage where she is admitting to it, hooe she gets help before it's to late!!
@@shutthefrontdoor733 meanwhile (I had to dig to find this but it’s true) her brother is a solid 500lbs or so. Either he’s kept out of the limelight out of embarrassment or he just doesn’t like it. I’m surprised their mom doesn’t make him do weird nickacado-type videos. However, apparently he’s a really talented cartoonist. But just like Eugenia, the mom doesn’t gaf about their health, and even goads them towards their death. Is she looking to have a Netflix documentary or something?? Damn.
I think one of the most disturbing things about that clip is Eugenia’s reaction to her mother saying she is not concerned. She seems elated that she finally has her on video, giving her validation. Very sad.
I think the mother wants Eugenia to be dependent on her, even if it means sending her to an early grave. Is there no one else in the family who can try to intervene? Also, it really shocked me how she seemed so much more cognitive and "there" when she started to get better for a bit.
Omg... now that u say this I am wondering now bc I don't think I've seen any of EUGENIA family ( besides the ones she lives with) I mean I know we don't see everything but that's another reason why I think she is confined to that house, we NEVER see anyone else... no family, nothing... I really wonder now if her mom & dad ( probably the mom more ) keeps the other family away bc maybe they tried intervening & wanted help for her & they maybe on bad terms, so I could see the mom keeping everyone away that could talk to EUGENIA or shoe her... yes... u need the help, also I noticed on SHANE'S documentary that when she's showing him the locks on the front door ( and their's many ) the ones that concerned me was the 2 long thick boards that u slide across the door ( one in the middle & another a little below ) but slide them across & u can see they are more meant for her bc I am pretty sure they know she can't move them without a struggle ( or at all ) but even if she can they would hear, or be able to stop her before she was to want to leave, idk just something to think bout I guess, so yeah I agree with all u said !!
Omg... now that u say this I am wondering now bc I don't think I've seen any of EUGENIA family ( besides the ones she lives with) I mean I know we don't see everything but that's another reason why I think she is confined to that house, we NEVER see anyone else... no family, nothing... I really wonder now if her mom & dad ( probably the mom more ) keeps the other family away bc maybe they tried intervening & wanted help for her & they maybe on bad terms, so I could see the mom keeping everyone away that could talk to EUGENIA or shoe her... yes... u need the help, also I noticed on SHANE'S documentary that when she's showing him the locks on the front door ( and their's many ) the ones that concerned me was the 2 long thick boards that u slide across the door ( one in the middle & another a little below ) but slide them across & u can see they are more meant for her bc I am pretty sure they know she can't move them without a struggle ( or at all ) but even if she can they would hear, or be able to stop her before she was to want to leave, idk just something to think bout I guess, so yeah I agree with all u said !!
Yes, it’s pretty obvious that her brain can’t think straight when it is desperate for calories. When she got out of hospital and she had put on a few pounds, she was talking and thinking better.
That’s how anorexia works. For Karen Carpenter, it took years until one day, after coming home from a tour for a holiday visit with her parents, she went to the closet to get something and collapsed. They can live “normally” until their heart just stops. I am so worried this happen. I wouldn’t be surprised if it happened while she was recording.
Wow, this really sounds similar to Jennette Mccurdy Mom. She made a book called “ I’m glad my mom died “ and talks about her personal life and how her mother convinced her to not eat for the “ best “ for her… Jennette thought her mom wasn’t doing any harm on her until years later she realized she was being abused and manipulated by her own mom. I really hope this girl gets serious help before it’s too late. I just came back to her channel to check in how she was doing after years.
Yup. Wanted her to be her “little girl” forever, that smaller girls are better, and that’s exactly what it looks like, especially combined with her hobbies and toys.
Yes my mother did this to me. Gave me an eating disorder starting at 11 years old and continued into my teens. Thank god I had enough sense to stop listening to her and was mentally strong enough to ignore her comments about my weight. At my heaviest I was only 125lbs and 5'4" which is not even overweight.
The mothers are sick as well. It sad that people treat her like this. We all have some imperfections no one is perfect, but to hinder someone like these mother's have done with their daughters show that the therapy needs to start at the beginning (the mom's)and throughout to undo all of the brainwashing, programming, and grooming that was woven into them as a child.
You can see after she got help, she wore long sleeves, and was constantly adjusting her clothes to hide herself. She looked so insecure. So so sad, because she actually started to look GOOD, really good. And she had so much more energy, and had a lot of potential to grow. It sounded like she had learned a lot, but going back to the same house, with her mother, and all the stress, that she relapsed. She wasn’t away long enough, sometimes this takes years to recover. She needs to get off the internet, away from her mother, and get some help. She is going to die. It’s so incredibly sad and I am so worried about her. I’ve never been more worried about someone on the internet. It’s wild to me she keeps staying on the stream when people are saying such mean things.
@@MrSnowflake she does it every time. When she went to the amourant party. When she went on the onision documentary, when she visits the cops. She knows exactly when to cover up and when not.
Also when she was like skeletal, there was no life in her eyes. After she got "kidnapped" and was starting to look healthy, the light and life was back in her eyes. And then it went away again. Not looking forward to the inevitable part 3 where someone tries to help her again only for the video to end with an obituary. She NEEDS help, she needs to get away from her mother, but there's nothing anyone can do if Eugenia won't cooperate. This is one of those things where I understand why we can't just kidnap adults from their homes to force them into treatment most of the time, but I wish we could. (Is Eugenia an adult?)
When I look at Eugenia, I see such an incredibly lonely person. Surrounded by things children love, like stuffies, and in a toxic abusive relationship with her mother and the whole internet. And her mother and the internet are how WHOLE life. How is someone who's been stunted and infantilized for so long expected to walk away from literally everything she knows and carve out a life for herself? Honestly I think too much damage has been done to her, and I don't have much hope she'll ever get better. I'll be so sad, but not surprised if we hear about her passing away eventually. 😔
I agree with everything you said. It’s extremely sad but I also don’t think there is anything that can be done now. Not even a small chance while she’s living in that house.
Yeah, unfortunately whether she goes tomorrow or manages a few more yrs, she'll never know a life away from her mother and her monitor. She doesn't even seem to hang out with people anymore like before. Really sad.
''sorry if it sounds stupid that i wanted to do that!'' nah that's just awful to hear, i cant imagine what she's being told at home if she feels the need to apologize over something that was her dream
i was a trainee therapist when that videos came out with Shane, Eugenia and the counsellor Katy. To this day, I don’t think that was appropriate at all to bring Eugenia back to the platform after 5 MONTHS of recovery?! Ethically and morally wrong on so many levels
She actually did say the medical tests they took when she was taken were really bad and she was on the brink of death, yet she never admitted that her friends did the right thing in getting her help. She looks worse now than she did then and there her mother is....who she has to ask for permission to even go up the stairs.
No. She said her tests were positive, and that health professionals were surprised, that she was lucky to still be in good health despite her condition. I believe Jaclyn did what she thought was right - I was part of an intervention for my friend who was an IV heroin addict. But ultimately, it’s the sick individual who has to do the work and spend their life recovering. Eugenia’s illness is her own. And it’s something she’s been stricken with since childhood Edit to add: my friend died within 9 months of her first trying heroin
@@DanielleStarry When did she say that? That' sounds like she made that up later to cover up her condition again. The whole "My doctor says I'm fine!" When she hadn't been to one in many years. Eugenia was way worse off than other woman who get into treatment and have to stay for over 6 months, she took herself out because she could. They should have dug into the relationship with the mother. Jaclyn tried more than anyone else has done in her life, I'm sure her mother wants to keep her the same way so she will not grow up and leave her. The infantilization is so obvious. She's not worried about her daughter, she's only worried about herself.
@@Iflie she said it in that pitiful Shane Dawson collab. You’re inferring a lot of things we don’t know to be true. I would’ve done the same thing if I was Jaclyn, but the thing is that you cannot force someone to get better. Their disorders are their own, the sick person has to do the work managing the illness for the rest of their life. I held an intervention for a friend. She died anyway
@@DanielleStarry Neh I didn't watch that abomination aside from bits other people reacted to, it was all PR with her mother there and them all acting like she was in her right mind and that Jaclyn didn't need to do that. You can't go along with the delusions of a sick person. Going to rehab only works for anorexia if they can feed you up and change your thinking it's not like heroin treatment. She would have needed to stay at least a year I think. Before she'd even be capable of living on her own. Putting her back with her mother was just going to do the exact same thing it had before. Herr mother doesn't want her better, that's so obvious, she didn't take her to a doctor as a kid either, didn't put her into any treatment, therapy, stop her from going OL and getting hate. She did none of the things loving mothers do when their child gets sick. I blame the rest of her family too but the mother was the one in control.
Right. She’s literally locked in a basement. Her mom is killing her. I don’t know how her obese mother can look at her daughter who is just skin and bones and say it’s okay. Her mom is so sick there’s the video where her mom is screaming I don’t care I want my money
Yeah that was what Jaqelyn said too, they just put her right back in the exact same situation with her mother and expected a different outcome? The same family that never took her to a doctor and always said she was just fine to the cops.
@@Iflie Right one month of new habits versus a clearly unbalanced and controlling environment. It was a loosing game from the get go. It feels as if it’s worsened ten fold on top of the isolation.
@@Luigi_Board She totally wasn't ready to go home but I think it was voluntairy at that point so they couldn't keep her. I think she quit any sort of therapy then too. If they are really sick you are not talking to the woman, you are talking to the anorexic brain and she may just have been playing for time to get out to go back to her old ways. And the thing is, so many other victims of this disorder talk about how it takes over your mind, doctors say the starved brain can't think clearly, yet they still let people like this make their own choices. If she was younger maybe CPS would take her from her family, but she's locked in as an adult. Body checking and lifting things to show on camera.
I made it through an inpatient ed hospital program- the statistics show relapse is pretty high … it’s like drugs/alcohol: you cannot stay healthy in the environments that made you sick….it’s so sad…I Really don’t see her mother letting this happen… Urgh that Katie ‘therapist’ just HOGGED the whole video!!! Never liked her
It's always astounded me that she got sooo damn emotional when they claimed she was wearing a diaper... She freaked out. But no emotion when they are concerned & upset about her eating disorder.
@@theopulentone1650 I don’t think so. She wouldn’t have flashed it. If she lives much longer, she probably will have to wear one, but I don’t think so, yet.
@@theopulentone1650people in more recent short comments were saying they had the same grey skin tone when they were abusing laxatives so I wouldn’t be surprised. Especially when she does such long streams
No one in Eugenias life cared more then those 3 friends who desperately tried to save her life…They were Eugenias saving grace but in the end it was out of their control.
They didn’t need to go online and talk about though. Esp talking about leaving the house thing. You know for a fact she watched that and probably for sure won’t leave the house now.
@@brittanyhughes2198 They are all influencers, they share their lives on the internet and Eugenia was gone so people were worried. Also the only reason they came out online was because they wanted to hold Shane, a very big name TH-camr, accountable for sweeping things under the rug and basically making it lighthearted when the situation was very serious. Shane was the one who made everything public and made a profit too. The only thing Jaclyn got for trying to save her friends life was hatred and thats messed up. In the end it was up to Eugenia to realize she needed help and continue with it, Jaclyn was trying to jumpstart her recovery. Unfortunately Eugenia remains a captive to her addiction and may not survive at this point…
I’m so scared for her. As a mother of two teenage daughters, I can’t imagine watching them waste away and doing nothing about it. It breaks my heart. Eugenia deserves better
As a mother I can't understand it either. How does she sleep at night? I'd be so scared she just wouldn't wake up. I cannot imagine doing anything but fighting tooth and nail for the help my kids need.
Imagine looking to your mom for confirmation that you're okay and she lies and says, you're just fine even though you're literally dying in front of everyone's eyes.
The way she looked after that 51/50. How anyone could criticize Jaclyn in any fashion after what she did to save her friends life is sick man! Eugenia’s mom is a sick psychopath killing their own daughter. How tragic, how tragic. Smh.😢
@@gamergirlmars ...imagine your best friend posting one of your most personal and vulnerable moments online for everyone to see as you are being whisked away to a mental institution...and they claim it was to "expose" her mom, who she loves. (Even if Eugenia's relationship with her mom is unhealthy, she still loves her.) I could forgive someone for sectioning me if they really did it cause they cared but I could never forgive my friend filming something like that and posting it online. That's a violation of my boundaries and privacy. And I personally think it made it worse. Eugenia just ate to get out anyway and it gave her more attention. And now that she's been exposed, she is blatantly body-checking and click-baiting because everyone knows anyway so she doesn't have to be discreet anymore.
@@kpoppy9635 oh I don't agree. If your friends, family, and even the police enable you then good on Jaclyn for letting the world know what's going on. And enablers should be charged with the person's death and held accountable for their complicity.
@@ImAtYourMumsHouse- I agree with you. Those trolls who leave the hideous comments aren’t there because they’re interested in her content, that’s for sure.
The fact her mom says at 7:58 that she’s not concerned about her daughters health is what we’ve all known all along. She doesn’t give any f’s if her 30 year old daughter is dying , as long as she can make money off her
When she started crying about the diaper comments I literally started crying, her pain is just so much, it actually breaks my heart, I’m not religious but I’m seriously hoping with every fiber of my being that this woman can experience health and happiness someday
I felt bad too, but she DID cause the whole thing herself. What started it was her CONSTANTLY showing her crotch. She did a Instagram earlier that day and had her skirt hiked up sitting in the car, and held the camera out so you could see her underwear full on crotch shot. It looked all bulky like a pad , and people started saying it was a diaper. I hate she had that breakdown, but her constant flashing is an issue. She still does it nearly every stream and says it's "no big deal" because it "only showed for a second". She has flashed both top and bottom. She always says it's an accident, but it happens way too much. A couple of nights ago, she was doing "just dance" and went spread eagle on the floor. People in chat tell her over and over to wear shorts under her mini skirts when she dances, but she sees nothing wrong with it. Once again, I think her Mom is the problem there as well . Apparently, her Mom sees nothing wrong with getting Eugenia to undress in front of a bunch of people in a store (tried on a bathing suit right out in the open. There is even a video where she showed her privates full on and you see way more than underwear. It was from several years ago, that is how long this has been going on. Mr. Snowflake mentioned her flashing briefly, but it's a whole thing...with creeps in her chat telling her gross stuff and asking her to do things (and she does it). I don't mean this to bash her, but she is not the innocent she pretends to be. So she kind of brings all this on herself (not saying it's right at all) Just watch her older videos....she does some weird stuff, like making prank calls about rape etc.
For real, after seeing her talking about getting bullied in school, and some of the cruel things people said to her online, her just breaking down into tears because people said she was wearing a diaper... that's just so mean. It's so hard to be optimistic in this world sometimes when you see people being that cruel for literally no reason. Why can't those people go bully Onision or the MAPs of twitter or whatever instead of bullying her?
i couldn't help but notice how when shane appeared, she's fully covered to "hide" how healthy she became, but you can see it in her cheeks. mere weeks later, she's back to revealing clothing, moreso than before, and even skinnier than previously before the break. and she later says she hated that moment in her life, which says she doesn't care what it'll do to her in the end. she's beyond help.
Jaclyn, the only person in Eugenia’s life who genuinely loved her enough to make the hard choice of an intervention. An ED is the same exact thing as having a heroin addiction. All addictions are. You won’t stop until you are forced to or you’ve hit rock bottom and genuinely want change. She knew Eugenia was probably gonna hate her. But a friend who hates you is better than a dead friend.
I’ve had to make that call. My friend in college had become a full blown addict in just six months, and had been kicked out of school. She was staying with a leach of a girlfriend strung out constantly. I had to call her Mom to come get her. She was furious, and swore she’d never speak to me again. 8 years later, she found me on Facebook. I was right she needed help badly. I can’t say that she got clean right away after her Mom came and got her, but she eventually did.
@@danderson8431 Good on you for having the courage and empathy to make the call and do the right thing. It’s especially hard if you have anxiety or self-esteem issues or are a people pleaser, and that’s what holds a lot of ppl back from doing it. So I’m so happy you had the bravery to do it.
Agreed. My boyfriend and father of my daughter had a coke addiction. He was forced into rehab for 90 days and he's back to his amazing self for the most part. He still has some problems that arise because of the excessive use, but he seems happier and better now
My friends did the same for me. My two best friends, I was deep in addiction and super in denial. I was 5150d I was so angry… for 3 days… and I’ve been thankful ever since. People have to really REALLY love you to try to save your life knowing you might hate them afterwards
It's wild to see old videos where she formed full sentences with complete thoughts. I'm one of the ones that checks her channel to see if she's still alive on occasion. Watching this is honestly so sad.
This story is unbelievable. I can’t believe that her condition was literally dismissed. She is the definition of someone who can not make her own decisions about her well being. Her mother should go to jail for actually not intervening. If you watch someone cut their wrists and are dying and you sit by and do nothing then you are liable.
She has high anxiety, she is on meds for. Her voice is high from anxiety. When she's more confident, her voice is more toned. That's literally what happens to your voice
@@lfairy6130what on earth would make you think she’s feeling more confident when discussing a humiliating rumor. Get off your high horse and use your brain
@L Fairy She literally up pitches her voice for a character. It's not all anxiety. I have a consuming anxiety disorder, and it doesn't permanently change my voice. That's not how that works.
Watching her body check herself while sitting next to Katie Morton broke me. I got this sick feeling the first time I noticed that. I knew she was already falling back into the ED and needed back into rehab that minute. I hope she can get back on the track to wellness some day.
Unfortunately, she was never mentally in recovery because she was forced to be there and put on weight. Weight is only a symptom of this disorder and why she physically looked better she still was struggling mentally. I hope one day she will want a accept help on her own accord.
I don't have an ED, and I didn't know much about body checking, but I *knew* there was something wrong in that clip. The way she's just grasping herself... It made me anxious 😰
28:02 This little baby. Oh my dear gracious. My heart just crumbles. Even babies are so concerned that the world will lose her before she can recover. My heart goes out to all survivors of ED. You are worthy. You are soulful. You deserve comfort. You deserve health.
Her mom always sounds really intoxicated. I have a feeling she’s using Eugenia’s money to fund an addiction. Edit to add: the youtuber who criticized Jaclyn is not a doctor, and is a misogynist. And the “therapist” who talked with Eugenia, is a marriage counselor, not an expert in EDs.
@@AreYouGoneAlready rewatch videos of him talking about “troubled” young women, and you’ll notice a pattern with him. He always victim blames when a young woman is involved, and his “jokes” become cruel.
Yup! And the “therapist” who made the video with Eugenia was the same “therapist” who advised Jaclyn to get the 51/50 put in place for Eugenia. Twisted, right?
30 years ago, when I was 14, I was 5'6 and 93-97 lbs and I wore a size double zero. I was literally called in by my Principal in school and asked if I had an eating disorder. I ate all the time and I was naturally skinny but this, this is not okay. I've been 5150 and yes I was pissed!!!! Her Mother is the spitting image of my mom. From the baby talk to get demanding and disregarding nature. My mom encouraged me to date grown men when I was 14. Dressing provocatively at a very young age. She used to tie me up and gag me and beat me. Put guns to my head.....this Mom is far scarier behind closed doors and Eugenia has found a way to survive with her abuser. Stockholm Syndrome is involved for sure and I wouldn't be surprised if Mom is trying to kill her but make it look like it's her own daughter doing it to herself. My mom encouraged skinny skinny skinny. The mom's project their issues onto us.
Exactly! My grandmother always pushed me to stay skinny. I'm 4' 11" and because of my grandmother's pushing, telling me I'd be unattractive to my bf, I got back into my size 0 less than a month after having an almost 9 pound baby. I had a c section so there was still some swelling, too. Even during my heroin addiction when I weighed about 87 pounds she made comments about my thighs. Now she's dead and I'm sober (been clean 8 years now) and I'm actually a bit overweight for my height at 135 pounds. Writing this made me think..... If Eugenia outlives her mom maybe she'll get help/get better just out of spite.
The fact that the mom was encouraging her to try on swimming suits in public shows her need for people to notice and sympathize. Her mother likes that people look at her and that she gets negative attention. Some people love being a perpetual victim.
Well I mean, it's the same as way people who are obese to morbidly obese in their teens and 20s are still able to survive, the body when it's in youth is able to keep pushing on but I fear that when she gets into her 30s, specifically her mid to late 30s, that is when she will most likely start experiencing the severe health consequences.
@Broski Snowski I didn't say that you're guaranteed to die prematurely from obesity, far from it. But you'll definitely be living a less than ideal life in terms of mobility. I watched my grandmother, mother, and my uncle whom were obese and how they spent the rest of their lives. My grandmother spent the last few years of her life bedridden since she had bad back and knee pain from all the weight she was carrying. Same thing happened with my mother with the back and knee pain because of the excessive weight. My grandmother died at 71 of a heart attack but I would say she lived a long life. My mother passed at 50. And my uncle passed away at 38 from heart attack and my uncle's diet consisted of a lot of fast food on the daily. But yeah, I was not trying to say that you're guaranteed to die early, just that you'll be more than likely to experience health and mobility complications.
@MomMom4Cubs Damn..I am sorry! I have tried to be involved with my kids. They are adults now, both have struggled with Ana, my gay son really really suffered from Ana. My daughter has been both very thin and overweight. We have both been told to eat more despite our weight loss being related to hormones and stress. I've lost a child to mental illness, that woke all of us up to be more supportive and to talk more. Sometimes, being too involved with the kids can make a problem worse just like neglect does. Striking a balance can be hard. Wish all parents were able to provide emotional support for their children, so many adults are barely getting threw life themselves. Hang in there! Only we can change ourselves, but we need our family to support us as we do it. 🌹🥺❤️
I used to be very involved in ED groups and many of my friends used to use EC and another girl as an example that they could live with their condition for an extended period of time. They really couldn't. Every year I would log in to that community to see how are things going - and I would log in to yet another dead acquaintance. Mainly organ failure. Not all of them, but even one was too many and then there was one too too many. Maybe it was that unlike Eugenia they had to live their adult life on their own and that wears you out faster. Maybe it gets a hold of you faster in a third world country. So many factors weren't considered when they said I'll be fine, I don't need recovery, she's lived like this for years and I want and can be her - and now those who really should've considered everything aren't around. I'm not saying I wish demise on EC, but I can't forgive her for making those girls believe it was okay. I see their names reflected in her eyes.
Yeah this is sad because it hurts her but it's infuriating because she's broadcasting it and has an audience that is following her lead. I definitely don't think people should bully her cause it won't help but I definitely get why people are so frustrated at her
Yeah I think one part of her being able to stay alive at that weight is probably because she barely leaves her room, she sits in a chair for hours everyday and doesn't put any strain on her heart in form of physical activity, elevated heart rate ect, if she was actually living a real life with a job and went out of the house she probably would be worse off
It’s not Eugenia’s fault your mentally ill friends passed away, dude. I know it hurts and you want to find someone at fault, but Eugenia isn’t the reason those poor friends of yours are no longer with us
The thing is, most low weight anorexics do survive into their late twenties, early thirties before succumbing to their illness, which seems like forever in your early teens when this begins for most people.
@@jessicahay9305 most but not all. When you're such a popular public figure, you gotta consider that "but" - or you accept that you inspire something that has a 20% chance of costing someone their life.
That darling little girl at the end of the video just chocked me up 😢. And there are so many truly caring loving people who are deeply worried. Too bad that all of us are considered “bullies” in Eugenia’s eyes.
@@elanamarie0517 - But, bullying can have a LIFE LONG impact on people. That's not "playing victim". I am all for people being accountable and I never let people get away with playing the victim but this poor girl IS a victim. Jesus Christ the shit that people have said about her. I'm not saying she's correct about some things but Onision dressing up like her and pulling his usual shit is NOT okay and a lot of the gossip channels all but making fun of her... all that's doing is making her worse. I'm sorry but those people are contributing her inevitable death.
@@13lilsykosOnision was a scumbag whose channel was about bullying other people and putting them down...unless they were a pretty young white girl who worshipped the ground he walked on.
@@13lilsykosit can and it's awful. At the same time, though, a person has to work through that stuff. If they allow it to affect them their whole life then it will. You have to get help or contextualize it and not let it define you anymore. It's easier said than done but you have to choose to move on.
I will always remember the day my mother was rubbing aloe onto a terrible sunburn I had gotten and she lifted my arms to my side and told me I was wasting away. She didn't get emotional, she simply told me she hoped I would see how sick and frail I was and make changes to be healthy. I cannot imagine what would have happened if she'd sat by and let me whither.
We don’t know how many times Eugenia’s mother has done that exact same thing. It seems her mother (however shitty she may be) is simply trying to enjoy the time she has left with her adult daughter who can’t be helped
@@malenyluna5275 I was able to achieve a healthy weight and other disordered eating developed. I don't think I'll ever have a decent relationship with food but my health is good.
I remember being in HS and having an ED and the most terrifying thing in my world is that someone was going to come in and make me stop. I truly don’t think it has anything to do with food either. It was taking away the control I had over the situation. The problem was if I wasn’t in control of this situation, then I was going to completely break down mentally. I look back and realize how horrid this situation was, but in it, I was in complete denial. From the unhealthy people in my life, came positive attention. Girls were asking what they could do to lose weight and wanted to spend their time with me, so they could achieve weight loss. It was very toxic. I felt like my success and status were a direct reflection of my weight. If something went wrong, I thought it was attributed to my weight and wouldn’t have happened if I were this size instead of this size. I also saw how unhealthy people looked who were carrying too much weight and they’d try to say they embraced their unhealthy lifestyle. They were happier eating what they wanted to eat regardless of their health, and I didn’t agree with that. How could you be happy if you felt exhausted, sluggish, and your body wasn’t operating correctly because it wasn’t receiving proper nutrition and obesity takes years off your life and takes away from the quality of life you still currently have. Nutrition is what needs to be pushed, not ED in one direction or the other, because obesity is an ED too. Bottom line is she’s not that size naturally, she’s anorexic and terrified to stop. I think she equates her mothers love and acceptance based on her weight. Her mother is obese and out of control and therefore controls and encourages her basically killing here. The last thing as a mother I’d ever want to see are my children is then withering away and in their underwear. This mother needs criminal charges right against her and she needs to go back to rehab and often going into a nutrition and fitness career path where they’re able to truly learn how to properly nourish their bodies and spread that level of awareness to others who are struggling whether it be anorexia, bulimia, or obesity.
Yes !! If Eugenia was an eIderIy person, AduIt protective services wouId charge her mother with neglect !! Her mother wiII be responsible for enabling her death. Idk why someone cannot stop the train wreck we aII see coming. 😔
I really recommend everyone to look into Jennette McCurdy's book "I'm Glad My Mom Died". It details how her mother basically encouraged and influenced her eating disorder at a very early age so she could be successful as an actress. Jeanette's mother wanted to keep her in a childlike state for as long as possible, so Jeanette could pursue childlike roles as an actress. Her mother also used money as a form of control. Her mother would shame her and get angry when she would gain any amount of weight. I believe this situation is comparable to Eugenia's, per her history. There are a lot of details within Jeanette's story that parallel Eugenia's. Of course, this is all speculation per her history and based on observation. We don't truly know what is going on behind the scenes.
Her Dad also likes how she looks... He was pretty creepy about it when he showed up in a few livestreams on YouNow and her brother draws her naked. It seems her whole family is encouraging this
Good point. MANY -- if not most -- Hollywood "show business" families are involved in the occult. And, in Eugenia's case, the factual evidence points to Eugenia's slow, painful murder at the hands of Deb via SRA (satanic ritual abuse). As they say: "The devil is in the details," and every single one of Eugenia's social media contributions are FILLED with signs and symbols that point to the fact that the Cooney family (at the very least, the narcissistic mother, Deb) are in the occult, and Eugenia has most likely been subjected to SRA since infancy. Let me reiterate: The DEVIL is in the DETAILS.....
It really got me seeing her cry, she's clearly not well, mentally and physically, I wish people weren't so cruel. (I'm not talking about her friends who tried to get help for her, I completely understand why they did it)
It left a lump in my throat; these same people are monsters. This is s person who was already horrifically tormented through out childhood during her most impressionable years. How is this lost on anyone? What happened to treat others like you'd want to be??
People think that her positivity is an act but what if it's a defense mechanism and when people say she is mean, it's actually her being frustrated and unable to be vocal about what she wants or how to stop people from hating her.
@@setofreakinkaiba8553 The people verbally evicerating her are just as horrid of poor excuses for humans as the very kids that tormented & tortured her through her school years. Just like that trauma most likely causes her issues, these online creeps will ironically be the death of her. Evil.
When she cried I didn’t see her wipe tears away, and she probably made thousands of points or whatever (which equals real money) as she was crying. It’s the same when they ask her to move heavy things or do physical activity
I was also diagnosed with borderline. My mother is also manipulative and narcistic. One time she's nice, another one she will put me down. She has put me down so often that it was incredibly hard for me to actually move into a new career routine because I stopped believing in myself. But thankfully I have my best friend who never gave up on me no matter my mood swings, mistakes or issues. Thanks to her I am now in night school. I am still so scared but with their help I think I can manage. My mother told me I was too dumb to finish this class, mainly because of math's and that she loves me wholeheartedly but she just knows I won't make it. Which again made me become very hurt and mad. We've had lots of issues like this. She also loved to put me down. Saying I am ugly or my body is ugly when in fact, I am a very beautiful young woman and I think she's jealous of my bravery and my success so far. She will also gift me something sometimes but then start off like "oh this looks so much better on YOU I am just ugly..." when I was in the mental hospital and they diagnosed me with bpd as well, she said she knew what it was but it was obviously not her fault. This makes me very mad and I try not to think too much about it. She barely calls. I always have to call her... I believe she wants to be a good mother but our connection is off... And she also blames my grandma for babying me sometimes, doing too much for me. I am not independent with everything and yes sometimes her love is also a bit suffocating. But at least she shows that she cares more... I think if I would have stayed with my mum or dad, hell would have broken lose. Seeing from my trauma bond ex relationship, I could become so mad. I sometimes even think I might have lost it and actually hurt someone. Please always surround yourself with people that are good for your mental health.
Her outbursts on stream made me feel such sadness. Her mother reminds me a bit of how mine used to be. Growing up in her house was hell and I was also very very underweight during it (not to her extent). The only way she will get better is if she moves out and away from her mom, and that is a very hard thing to do for many children with abusive/narcissistic parents. I feel so bad for her. It is tragic this has all been documented online
She is 30 this year, so it doesnt seem to happen. Fully agree with your comment, this is so so sad! Its crazy, i remember her from years and years back, and this vid came up in my feed, after checking her IG im in deep shock, understanding all of this regarding her mother is just heartbreaking! Im not a religious person, but in this case i pray for her health, we all should
The bit at 7:37 is absolutely insane. You can tell by her mother's facial expressions that she's looking for the right words to save face, because she KNOWS that something is terribly wrong but can't admit to it. She's either in deep deep denial about Eugenia's condition, or she's enabling/manipulating her into staying sick for her own personal gain (whatever it may be). Because no one in their right mind would say that Eugenia's weight isn't a concern while she's looking like THAT.
I knew someone who suffered an eating disorder in school. Her mother was a controlling psycho and as soon as she got away from her mother she recovered. Anorexia from my understanding stems from a feeling of lack of control. Eugenia will never get better while she is in that home.
I love my mom..I have an eating disorder. Two years ago it got very bad... I told my mom I was 93lbs, & she was shock. When I got to 89lbs she became very scared. Since then, with my moms support, I have made it up to 110lbs. (:
Seeing her recently, I fear she doesn't have much time left at all. Her friends did all they could to get her help, and I truly believe they did the right thing. They received so much backlash, which sucks. But when someone you love is wasting away, you have to make tough choices. Her mom is clearly feeding her delusion that she is okay and healthy. Getting her away from her mother and that environment is the only way she can save herself and start to heal. I have a daughter, and I couldn't fathom supporting my child as she is on the brink of death. Mark my words, her mom will try to blame her death on the trolls and her followers. She will say she was under too much stress and pressure. I pray this doesn't happen, but that's where I see it headed.
TBH the trolling is completely counterproductive. It’s clear that no online commentary or observations have any positive impact whatsoever, so her salvation is limited to real world interventions. Until someone devises a way to extricate her from that toxic home environment, anyone attempting to influence change is at best wasting their time.
I agree with you about Eugenia. Only she can get herself better. The problem is, she knows subconsciously that she's getting attention, which is exactly what she wants. The other problem is, people forget she's a 30 year old woman, and if she's going to choose to continue to be like this, there's absolutely nothing anyone can do about it .
Seeing Eugenia breakdown at the end made me break down. No matter what you think about this girl, she’s still a human being who’s endured suffering for YEARS. Her own mothering watching it in front of her. I can’t imagine how that impacts her self image. Someone else in the comments mentioned that her mother controls every aspect of her life & her ED is the one thing she feels she has control over. I know for myself if anything does happen to her & we all watched it happen it’ll truly be one of the saddest phenomena to come from the internet.
I have AN too - when I got really bad and stopped eating pretty much completely my mum was the one that got me sectioned and wouldn’t let me come home until I ate again. She sat with me through every meal and made sure I was eating. She’s a top notch mum. I can’t believe Eugenia’s mum just lets her starve like this :/
I feel so bad for Jacklyn because she just wanted to help her friend and now she’s seen as a villain when she’s not. It’s very sad. And I hate seeing Eugenia slowly die in front of the camera. She has such a pure heart, and the ED part of her brain has no idea that we would love her even more if she put on some weight and got healthy. Man it sucks.
made me tear up a few times. im anorexic and have grown up watching her get worse. i felt so much better about the idea of recovery when she did and thought i had hope. it’s truly something id never wish on anyone else but at the same time i don’t see myself ever reaching that point either. sad
Hi. I was anorexic for 30 years before finding a 12 step program. It was hard first 2 years bc I had to let go of control but ultimately, this was 12 years ago and I haven't relapsed. I'm sorry for anyone who gets anorexia. It's the devil.
I remember when she came back from rehab and TH-cam break, and seeing her so much more vibrant and healthy (still very thin but much healthier than before) was so nice. It was that much more heartbreaking to see her relapse. She was on a road to recovering, and I feel her mother likely played a role in veering her off.
Listening to Eugenia speak coherently is surreal. I wish so much for her to be able to get back to being herself. Unfortunately I think this has been a lifelong battle and as long as she is living with her mother, I don't forsee anything getting better. It's heartbreaking.
Eugenia's mom is like Jeanette McCurdy's mom but Eugenia has been convinced that they are just fine. This is all normal. I bet if Eugenia outlives her mom her perspective will change. I lived with a narcissistic, controlling mom who manipulated me into playing Cinderella much of my life. I hope she gets a chance to live without her mom.
jeanette mccurdy lies she was out of the limelight and needed attention her mom was not that bad she writes this after her mother dies so she cant stick up for herself go figure.
17:49 I understand that in her situation being asked the same thing over and over can get old, but there's no way with the way she eats and drinks she isn't peeing out teaspoons of pee and liquid shit, I struggled with an ED, NEVER got to her weight, and still had bathroom issues. The pain in her voice doesn't sound like frustration from lies, it sounds like humiliation from truth. I would cry too if I desperately tried to live in denial about my ed and suddenly everyone in my stream knew i had a diaper on bc of it.
I think so too actually. Because lets be real, her twitch content thrives on her reading every comment and answering every question, even the disrespectful ones. There must be some other reason that the diaper comments especially struck a cord.
Yup :( the pain really sounds like someone who knows what's happening, but is deeply ashamed of wearing diapers (very understandable as an adult). Like if you don't wear diapers and people accuse you of it... Most people will just laugh and be confused. But if you start crying ---- that tells you all you need to know. I feel so bad seeing her cry and I just hope she gets help :(
If she doesn’t get help, and she does pass, I hope that at least a new law will be made to force treatment and look into these types of situations. I also hope that there will be laws that will be made to take emotional and mental abuse more seriously. My heart breaks for her. She’s simply a victim of emotional abuse and manipulation and she needs help. So does her mother.
@@vgeez9952 gosh, I'm sorry if I come off too harsh. You care about Eugenia and you care about all people who suffer, I'm sure your heart just wishes happiness for them. And sorry, I'm about to get preachy, but doing bad things in the name of "helping others" are the good intentions that pave the road to hell. Here's an example....I was dating a guy who decided to test me, he wanted to see how sincere I was and find out my true intentions. In the process, he mocked me, he shut me up, and he wouldn't let me speak. He was trying to test my morality, but in the process he showed me where his morality truly was. Similarly, Jaclyn claims that she was trying to help Eugenia....but she was willing to lie, trick, and set Eugenia up for a kidnapping, in order to "help" Eugenia. That's terrifying. Yeah Eugenia's mom might be terrible, but those 3 friends are not justified in their behavior and are blaming the mom for their poor actions. Again, sorry to be so personal, but I've been sexually abused, and the men who did it claimed they were helping me. I did not consent, but they were so convinced that they knew what was best for me and I ended up with PTSD. So that's what I mean when I say forcing other people against their will can really open the door to abuse. My best advice is to worry about one's self. If I ever feel the need to lie, manipulate, hide, become forceful, in order to do the "right" thing, I try to catch myself and walk away. I can only control my morality and I can only control my actions. I will not let myself become a manipulative trickster no matter what the reason. Anyway, that's just my opinion. You don't have to agree with me, but I appreciate that you've considered my opinion.
Don't wish for that we already have too many laws and there's too much corruption with police and judges that lie and that arrest you for breathing wrong we do not need more laws. Unfortunately people are have free will and they can live their life the way they want You can't force them to live another way and you shouldn't try much like addicts they will find a way. We should never have some type of martial law that forces people. Eugenia is an adult she does get out and you can't force her into it and you should not force anybody into it because it won't stick. Then she'll just get somebody else's abusive to her like a guy I mean it doesn't help you cannot for somebody's mental state. They have to want to get better and we do not need any more laws we need about a million times less laws with just the important ones being enforced that are not enforced currently like crap with pedophiles and rape
I couldn't see how depressed I was, and lost a decade to just sleeping all day. I pray if she ever has a moment of clarity again, she will ask for help. She seems very nice. Bless her.
Her mother is showing signs of Munchausen by proxy, a very serious illness. If someone was able to get her mother the 5150 insetad, I feel Eugenia would maybe have a shot at healing.
I would have to say that there is a fair amount of manipulation on the daughter's part. that is part & parcel with this disorder. She is controlling her weight because her mom is controlling every other aspect of her life. Eugenia is probably very controlling, sly, manipulative concerning what she is or is not eating as a way to 'get back' at her mother. She probably plays a lot of mind games to get what she wants, too.
On another note, I feel so bad when she starts talking about her experiences with bullying. She keeps apologizing and saying things like "I'm sorry if this sounds stupid, it probably is, I know it's dumb". Someone was feeding those thoughts to her, probably for a while. I wonder if her mom has said those things to her. That the way she feels is stupid.
I will never get behind the idea that Eugenia is the bad guy. She is a victim of her mother's insecurities and depravities. I sincerely hope she survives this and finds her freedom
Oh, God. What can I say? Whilst I'm not anorexic, I am currently in recovery from bulimia. I would not be in recovery AT ALL if I still had my toxic trauma llama "mother" in my life in any capacity. This makes Eugenia's story so much more devastating for me. It makes me super sad that it seems, as of now, that she'll never be free of her. When she was in recovery, she seemed SO MUCH BETTER. I'm sorry her mother poisoned yet another attempt at wellness. Recovery is possible, and well worth the journey! I started by giving Mia the day off, then another, and another. Now it's 18 months of days, and I "give her the day off" every day when I wake up. Last week, it wasn't the first thing I thought about when I woke up. What a milestone! I pray all those out there find the strength within to throw off their toxic shadows of sickness and abuse, too! Eugenia does not glorify Ana or Mia, and her image is used as thinspo without consent. My heart breaks for her! This sweet lady deserves a better, less selfish and non-codependent mother!
That’s amazing 🎉 I was friends with Ana for my late teens- early 20s. Now in my 30s I’m a healthy mother of 4 ❤ I too had to cut out my own mother and from then recovery was possible. 18 months is amazing truly.
Her mother also infantilzes her. She is a 27-28 year old woman! Not a 16 yo. My kids are 22 and 25, all and everything i so is to teach them how to be independent adults. She's like a chlid. E always apolozing breaks my heart and is clearly related to a problem. She is so sweet and endearing. I used to think she had an illness (not ED specifically). I have an invisible illness (hEDS, I'm a chub) so gave her the benefit of the doubt but she clearly doesn't eat and it breaks my heart. She's such a sweet girl :( Her mother is smothering and slowly killing her/watching her die. SMH.
I spent a long time really angry at Eugenia and I’m not sure exactly what my thoughts were and how I came to be so angry but now I feel incredibly sad and guilty for feeling that way in the first place. I think… she’s lonely, was never taught how to love herself, and has been hurt and manipulated her whole life
Everything about her after she came back from the rehab program is so jarring compared to now. The color in her skin, the life in her eyes, the way she speaks, her makeup skills…it’s fucking heartbreaking. I honest to god hope she isn’t past the point of no return and can get help before it’s finally too late.
It's the fact that after she got out the hospital she wasn't as thin but still very unhealthy but was at least a little better. That's how you know she really isn't just that size it's anorexia .
To be fair, from what I've heard, they force you eat a very large amount of calories daily, way over 2500+. They also force you to be stationary. Anyone would gain weight.
@@NineTailedFate I definitely can't speak for all programs but when I was in inpatient they very slowly incremented calories! If they don't it will cause a huge shock to your system, your stomach can't handle all that food so quickly and it causes immense pain and intestinal issues i.e. refeeding syndrome. For instance my first few weeks in, they started me at 1200 calories and incremented as I slowly gained weight. By the end I was at about 2000 calories and that was after 4 months. Buuuut based on what Eugenia said, they may have actually not incremented her like this as it does sound like she suffered from refeeding syndrome (if she was actually being truthful and not trying to make excuses). Just wanted to clarify because if someone who has an ED saw that it might really scare them from going in a recovery program - 2500+ is very very high for someone with anorexia! Again not trying to criticize because it definitely could be true for other programs, just want to say not all programs are like that and probably shouldn't be!
Also, why all the S&M outfits? She fusses with her hair, which is clearly a wig. Isn’t it common for anorexic people to completely loose their hair? Also teeth and fingernails.
Why has it not occurred to anyone that the reason this girl is suffering/punishing herself plus the element of control that ED is based on, came from the horrid level of bullying she endured!? Omg. She was hit in the head with yo-yo's, shoved into walls!? This happened all the way through HS. This isn't bullying, it's torment.
And the people who did that to her probably faced and continue to face no repercussions at all for it. People are terrible, I'd bet those people who were so cruel to her in school don't even feel bad about it 10 years later.
@@FrenkTheJoy It makes me angry and physically sick to my stomach, truly. If anything her mother is confirmably culpable of, it's not getting this girl into counseling whilst she was younger. People are evil, it's shameful bc I can't think of one person alive that would want the same done to them. Including these online tormentors. The irony? These are the very people that will be the ones to end her life. 💔
Watching her recovery video again hurts. I have a song called Play Pretend that really hits on this sentiment: "if I just keep telling myself Things I say to everyone else, Maybe someday I'll listen." Her story hurts so bad.
@@MrSnowflake imagine the way she feels. Poor girl just wants to live her life. And even more unfortunately... she just wants to live her life on the internet. And was successful at it...I just want to hug her. And give her a different outlet.
@@dootdoot94xo44 I mean. She probably doesn't want to, to be fair. Her mental health is something that she is ignoring, for sure. She's playing pretend. It's what she's had to do her whole life, and that really sucks.
Her mum has Munchhausen’s by proxy ! She wants to keep her daughter sick and loves the attention ! Very much like Gypsy Rose Blanchard situation , how can she not see she’s killing her it’s absolutely heartbreaking
That little girl at the end is incredibly emotionally mature and articulate. I wonder what she is up to today? What an empathetic child. That’s actually pretty rare.
Its actually a red flag. It means the kid had to be emotionally available to her parents from a young age. Which will work against her when she grows up.
@@BlackBird447not always true. There are these kids on TH-cam that are extremely emotionally intelligent ever since they were literal babies that couldn’t talk. I don’t know the name of the TH-cam channel but I know one of the kids is named Frankie. Sometimes it is from having to grow up too fast, but sometimes it’s just from the amount of resources that kid has available to them to be very in touch with their emotions.
It’s not up to anyone to ‘save’ Eugenia, no amount of attacking,sympathising, blaming her mum will stop Eugenia…..those voices from her ED are far louder than any of us can ever be, just thank your lucky stars it’s not you
As sad as that is, it’s true. I was anorexic in my early and mid twenties. I learned firsthand that the only person who could save me, was ME. No amount of begging and pleading from others convinced me. It had to come from within. I’m 47 now. I still struggle with disordered eating, but nowhere near to my previous anorexic level.
As someone who’s had an ED my family was worried about me before I noticed how bad it was, and if I was being blind about it before I couldn’t anymore. Can’t imagine having a heavier set mother, being deadly underweight and having her say to me and everyone that I’m fine when I’m on the brink of kickin it.. woulda messed me up so bad.
The way her lips are tightening against her teeth is terrifying. And that "mother". HOW!?!? How can you watch one of your children go through this and openly say it's fine everything's okay. I would really like to know if the son is healthy, living at home still, and if he's the golden child or also going through some bizarre situation. I realize he's not public, but there are SO many worrying signs in this family. The whole thing is just so very disconnected from what you would expect to happen in such a widely known case, it's baffling to witness.
Thank you for this video! Definitely some clips I have never seen here. As someone who was bullied in middle school, I can attest that those words repeat over and over again in your head. Eventually, the words become your reality manifesting themselves into eating disorders, insecurities and long-term trauma leading to a wide array of even more compounding issues (drug addiction, mental illness, etc) I wish Eugenia nothing but the best. I really do think, in a perfect world, she doesn’t want to hurt a soul. I have been following her for a bit and watching a lot of videos on her situation, taking them with a grain of salt of course. No one is a flawless human being, especially with this exacerbated of a mental illness. It’s deep. It’s her entire life ~ her entire world. Sometimes when you don’t feel good at anything, you become obsessed with the one thing you feel you can control. In this case, Eugenia feels it is her body. When you add the social platforms on top of it for over a decade, it becomes a dance of performance based, monetized people pleasing. It also becomes a game with competing against yourself, where you were x amount of years ago, what other people look like and are saying about you, and a personal hell with the duality of being your entire identity ~ built on a technological facade that you feel obligated to maintain. Nobody wants to have an eating disorder to this degree. Just like drugs, alcohol and trauma change your brain chemistry, a mental illness gone this far also will alter & twist your entire reality. I send Eugenia so much love and I hope she sees the comments where people have empathy. Never lose sight of hope, sweet girl. ❤
I’m not a fan and I’m not a hater either. I’m just genuinely a spectator wishing her the best and praying she is here for her fans as long as she can be.
I’ll never be convinced that this isn’t a case of Munchausen by proxy. The mother’s actions and what she says about her daughter is absolutely bizarre. Having her daughter undress in public and recording it to post on the internet… god the list goes on and on. Eugenia isn’t the greatest person her self but my god that mother is abusive and thrives off of the attention and wealth shes gained from Eugenia.
It’s awful
I was just about to comment something similar
Man Munchausen by proxy is definitely something to look into, I'm pretty familiar with the disorder but I had never made a connection, man you opened my eyes
oh, she's probably in charge of Eugenia's assets... She knows that freakishly-skinny-girl makes money, like a sideshow; people want to watch the trainwreck
Absolutely what I was thinking. This is so fuhking terrible
Her mother claiming to have heart issues and using that to manipulate Eugenia is so sad because anorexia can often weaken the heart to the point of failure.
That's how she'll die eventually......
Mum is disgusting women. She won't promote her daughter to get help and the poor lass will probably pass before her 😢
@@eclose78 Unfortunately her brother and father are just as disgusting, her brother draws her naked and her father likes her looking like a child
main cause for death with onorexia is in fact heart failure
@@Mateowable Heart attack is the main cause of death for obese people, the mother is obese... They are 2 sides of the same coin, both have disordered eating
SHE HADN'T BEEN TO A DOCTOR IN 5 YEARS yet her mom has the nerve to say shes not concerned and has been to her doctor appointments
You are aware she's an adult right?
That doesn't mean a thing. A person can be just as under control as an adult. Especially if they've been conditioned to believe they will literally kill their mother if they recieve help or are apart. @@Desaree1
I think Eugenias mom wants to keep Eugenia in an infantile state so she won't ever leave her.
It's the money babyyyyy 🤑
She ain't gonna leave that golden goose out of her sight..!
I completely agree, misery loves company.
Agree
That's what narcissists do
It's a Gypsy Rose situation
The rehab releasing Eugenia back into her moms care was criminally irresponsible…. She’s worse her before all that work to get her help wasted… Jaclyn did the hardest thing a friend can do. I was 5150d when my addiction had me over dosing 3 times a week. I was going to die but refused to admit it I was fucking furious… for 3 days. And I realized those 2 friends loved me so much they gambled out friendship, me hating them, me never speaking to them again just for me to get a chance at getting help. They saved me. My heart breaks for Eugenia. Her moms killing her
Her mom told her she's saving her. She said it in a stream 😰
th-cam.com/video/DOt718duUwM/w-d-xo.html she said she was saving her, in the stream!
WANT TO GO VIRAL?Take the “ FREE EUGENIA CHALLENGE” : Wherever she is, call the police for a Welfare Check. Warn them that her mom, Debbie is getting rich by brainwashing and starving her daughter for views- thousands know they are watching a girl die. It’s gonna be soon unless they save her from that house she’s trapped in . Her parents should face charges of abuse and murder, but will keep living like royalty with her money unless you take action.
Friends are proper friends.friends should always speak the truth for the best for you no matter how much it hurts. I've got good friends who told me they knew I was using, they encouraged me to take time off work, get help. It was very painful for them and worried it would break the friendship. It didn't as I felt bad for putting them through years of worry, I felt selfish.im holding on to them tightly as know who much they love me, no matter what xx
As a friend we shouldn't expect them to live with our harmful lies because it's enabling,they valued my life and did the right thing . people need to change how they think 😊
Not trying to victim blame here, she is undoubtedly a victim of narcissistic abuse and a toxic mother, if not to go as far as munchausen by proxy. But ultimately, she is a grown adult capable of making her own way, with her own money and (had, at least) friends. She's choosing not to escape at this point.
She looked so beautiful after just a month of recovery in rehab, it's so sad seeing how fast she bounced back into her ED.
I know it really does break my heart. She looked so beautiful and her voice was normal and she just seemed so much better.
I don't think she recovered at all. She gained weight, but she clearly hated it and was not comfortable. So of course the moment she was discharged she went straight back to extreme restricting. Unfortunately in cases like this the person has to decide to help themselves, and it is very clear that EC is not ready.
@@dangsood4945 yeah its all about control and controlling others that Eugenia, she gets attention for this.
Wouldn’t be surprised if her mom poisoned grandma too. Seemed the only person left that made Eugenia happy declined rather fast. Didn’t want anything near her money making daughter.
@@jeslynn1144 woah nellie
The fact that she claims she is not anorexic and is "naturally thin" but gained weight after returning from the 5150 psych stay is completely antithetical to her claims and shows that she is capable of gaining weight.
Yeah, no one is "naturally" that thin. My wife is naturally thin at 5'6" and 110; she eats more than i do at 160. She must think her audience is just completely brain dead.
My thoughts exactly
Denial is a huge part of any addiction.
She has said she is after the 5150 but it wasn't like straight up but she did say and also with Kati Morton like indirectly they confirmed ed. However yes she doesn't directly address it properly and its so frustrating and damaging when her content focuses on body image and clothes essentially. And then regarding her calling herself naturally thin in that clip I wish that video would be deleted or something because even if it's not actually an Ed it is definetly not natural in the way she's said. I know two girls with 2 different medical conditions that cause them to look exactly like her. However the thing about them is they receive care to keep their bones strong including steroids that cause face bloating and they don't rapidly loose and then gain visual weight the way she does online before and immediately after treatment. If she was atleast being taken care of for strength then she wouldn't look as unhealthy as she does whatever it is that is wrong. Her colour and rapid declines wouldn't be that way if she was properly looking after herself whatever it is that causes the thinness. It's so sad. I don't know what she's afraid of exactly but she shouldn't speak about it the way she has. There are good and safe ways to address or not address what's going on and her way is not it for sure 😔
Just to confirm I agree with your comment before I get anyone misreading my response 😂
It’s heartbreaking to see how much more lively and clear headed she was when she was in recovery, compared to now. You can’t convince me that her mom isn’t actively encouraging her eating disorder, any normal mother would be worried sick. I wish she could be charged with something, Eugenia is actively dying on her watch.
She was NEVER "in recovery". She gained some weight- she was not mentally in recovery at any point. You can tell by her body language that she's uncomfortable in her own skin.
I wonder if the mom somehow controls or makes money off her anorexia.
I came here to say this, like I forgot how much better she looked and sounded, since she's back where she started now. She needed so much more help at that point.
@@christinewatson1989 As someone who’s been in eating disorder recovery recovery is just uncomfortable, I was never as underweight as she is and it still took me years to get used to my “new body” it’s going to take as long if not longer for someone whos anorexia is as bad as hers is. An inpatient facility cannot keep you there for years and years if the goal is to make you able to function on your own.
You need to be able to adjust back to normal life or try, problem is Eugenia was never going back to a normal life with a supportive mother.
When you leave treatment is the most critical and you’re very sensitive to relapse. Given the way her mother is, Eugenia didn’t have a chance no matter when she would have left so long as she was going back to her mom.
Abuse and dysfunctional family caused my eating disorder and if I was suddenly thrown back into that situation I was in during childhood I would be anorexic again.
If your eating disorder comes along as a result of a situation that situation is always going to be the sort of thing to trigger it, because that’s the only way you could cope.
If that’s a situation nobody should have to be in the first place, there’s very little standard coping can help you with.
It’s not just the psychological stuff and body image issues, it’s the physical feeling of being at a healthy weight that’s uncomfortable and hard to adjust to. The weight tends to gather mostly in your stomach before redistributing around your body, depending on your body type.
But having body dysmorphia it usually will start to gain in what you consider your problem areas. Her not having sunken cheeks, joints and tendons visible is something that she would take multiple years to get used to.
It’s like a drug addiction, in the years after recovery you’re at risk for relapse, when bad situations that you used drugs to cope with in the past start happening 10 or 20 years later you can relapse let alone going straight back to the hell she’s likely in.
I know it’s a long response but I how this comment helps more people understand.
I dont understand why nobody say anything to her when shes come to amouranth birthday and try to help her !
My best friend 12 years ago went behind my back, lied to me along with my parents to intervene with my drinking. I remember pulling up and seeing my dad and her telling me “please don’t be mad at me.” I was a bit embarrassed but relieved and happy to know she cared enough to go behind my back for my own good. Still best friend till this day. Sometimes it’s the only option.
🥰Love this!!! Congratulations on your sobriety!!! You're so blessed to have her!!!
It's funny how everyone who grew up with an abusive parent can see right through eugenia's mom, but people who have no idea what that is like are quickly to dismiss these claims.
@@jamie9364 yes.💯
This exposed even more ahit her mom had done than I was even aware of! If she was severed from her mom, I think she’d be alright.
@@jamie9364 Emphatic THIS
This right here!
Definitely! The mother is clearly controlling and manipulative. Eugenia seems to have Stockholm Syndrome. She’s solely dependent on her mother. Eugenia has no contact with the world outside of her bedroom. She’s completely isolated.
The fact her mother doesn’t feel there’s anything wrong with her weight is literally insane!
She knows it’s wrong but chooses to be in denial about it for the cameras. She doesn’t care about her own well being so she’ll project that onto her unfortunately.
Her mom wants her daughter to look like this. Living through her daughter.
It's about the abusive mother getting attention
@@christinamccarthy8683 no
what is she supposed to do? tie her to the bed and force feed her? She is 29! Time to take responsibility for your own life, she need to work through herself get help and make an effort!
The mom is so scared of having to live without Eugenia, i feel like she wouldnt even take her to the hospital if she were dying.
And yet Eugenia's heart will give out long before hers. Yes, girl will die in her own home and her mom will be chocked.
All the locks on the doors during Shane’s video sent chills down my spine.
Super, duper chilling. I absolutely agree. Eugenia has more than likely been told it is for her safety. I can imagine she is pretty scared of the world and people. She has been sheltered her whole life by a mother who doesn’t ever want to lose her closeness with her daughter. You’re not going to leave your cage if you’re trained to stay in it for your perceived safety and well-being.
and EC accepts packages straight to her house from fans....no longer using as p.o. box... she must have a death wish or she has been abused so long she doesn't know how to even experience fear and safety pre cautions, self preservation and even fight or flight..she is so "WHATEVER" about everything
WANT TO GO VIRAL?Take the “ FREE EUGENIA CHALLENGE” : Wherever she is, call the police for a Welfare Check. Warn them that her mom, Debbie is getting rich by brainwashing and starving her daughter for views- thousands know they are watching a girl die. It’s gonna be soon unless they save her from that house she’s trapped in . Her parents should face charges of abuse and murder, but will keep living like royalty with her money unless you take action.
It's chilling to see her next to her mom and listen to her mom just saying that everything is fine. Her arms are just bones and skin in that clip, in what world is that being fine
Argh awful
Especially when her mother is the size that she is. I’m not fat shamming at all but come on, how can you sit there and eat the way you do all while watching your child fade away in front of your eyes? I would be doing everything in my power to get my kid the help they so desperately need! But she can’t have the money flow stop either. That’s awful that the money and attention is more important than your child’s health 😡
Exactly... not to mention her skin is grey ( actually damn grey), also she & her mom say she's always been thin like this her whole life, yeah well I seem to remember when her face was full (, she actually looked really good like a normal healthy weight ) so that's a lie, I also seem to remember SHANE D. When he interviewed her that their was enough locks on that front door for anyone to struggle to get out, but when I saw the one ( like 2 longs boards ) the nom or whoever is the one that does it keeps those 2 boards across the door going through 2 brackets to hold in place, something EUGENIA wouldn't be able to remove at all ( like it's meant mainly for her ) she knows exactly what she's doing, so when ppl say she's manipulated by her mom she knows no better ( witch yes her mom does ) but EUGENIA knows what she does as well, her voice was NEVER like that ( don't think it's from her condition) but she does this baby voice ( ppl know on purpose ) and then she's always getting these weird sexy clothes ( sent to her from fans I guess ) but they look like it's really meant for a child ( well bc of her voice & how small the clothes are ) so the baby voice is sick on her part, also when they come on her streams & get her to sit on the floor & spin round & scoot towards the camera, she's just as manipulative imo & they get her to bend over either with her showing her chest "accidentally" or even the backside & private areas as well it's actually disgusting, lastly someone ( like these ppl with the fetishes ) they'll tell her some weird things, or even may say mean things & she's like "awww thank you that's so sweet" all I know is she is fully aware of what she's doing. Her mom I feel like she knows if EUGENIA was to leave the house without her really she knows someone will start talking to her ( maybe idk ) but possibly the mom would think they gone to undue all the manipulation she's done to her all these yrs, but when her mom ( bc for me sealed the deal was last I needed to see ) basically made her change in the middle of the store & ppl looking at that poor woman wondering why would a mom ( or anyone ) do this, her mom also knows if she goes to try & get help the moment stops at that point I guess & she already told her daughter that she'll die if she leaves to get treatment ( so seems like she may want help sometimes) but can't bc she guilt trips her, but as I been saying EUGENIA should've been got off the internet for a good while but her mom wont allow it &, she doesn't want to either. She needs the break & u think dear old mom would tell her daughter the same not film every single damn thing bc I truly believe if her mom said I want to bring u to get help honey I love u & here for u & get off the internet for a while EUGENIA may actually finally feel ok to do so, like when mom was "showing" her how to "drive" she look afraid of her mom like she is sick if it all, hope she gets the help one day I wish this not even on a enemy & but problem is she isn't even at a stage where she is admitting to it, hooe she gets help before it's to late!!
@@shutthefrontdoor733 meanwhile (I had to dig to find this but it’s true) her brother is a solid 500lbs or so. Either he’s kept out of the limelight out of embarrassment or he just doesn’t like it. I’m surprised their mom doesn’t make him do weird nickacado-type videos. However, apparently he’s a really talented cartoonist. But just like Eugenia, the mom doesn’t gaf about their health, and even goads them towards their death. Is she looking to have a Netflix documentary or something?? Damn.
I think one of the most disturbing things about that clip is Eugenia’s reaction to her mother saying she is not concerned. She seems elated that she finally has her on video, giving her validation. Very sad.
That stint in the hospital was her one chance. Sending her back home doomed her to an early grave. Her mother belongs behind bars.
Her Apologizing and deflecting when talking about how she wanted to be a model is honestly so heartbreaking.
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That part hurt my heart too 💔
She seems so nice, but she seems too traust worthy of strangers. You need bounders if you're as nice her, and a backbone sometimes to set bounders.
@@Skoopyghost she really isn't that nice, she's just good at manipulating people to her advantage.
She's a WOKE waste of oxygen
I think the mother wants Eugenia to be dependent on her, even if it means sending her to an early grave. Is there no one else in the family who can try to intervene? Also, it really shocked me how she seemed so much more cognitive and "there" when she started to get better for a bit.
Yeh the way she spoke was so different
No, her mom cut off all their other family members
Omg... now that u say this I am wondering now bc I don't think I've seen any of EUGENIA family ( besides the ones she lives with) I mean I know we don't see everything but that's another reason why I think she is confined to that house, we NEVER see anyone else... no family, nothing... I really wonder now if her mom & dad ( probably the mom more ) keeps the other family away bc maybe they tried intervening & wanted help for her & they maybe on bad terms, so I could see the mom keeping everyone away that could talk to EUGENIA or shoe her... yes... u need the help, also I noticed on SHANE'S documentary that when she's showing him the locks on the front door ( and their's many ) the ones that concerned me was the 2 long thick boards that u slide across the door ( one in the middle & another a little below ) but slide them across & u can see they are more meant for her bc I am pretty sure they know she can't move them without a struggle ( or at all ) but even if she can they would hear, or be able to stop her before she was to want to leave, idk just something to think bout I guess, so yeah I agree with all u said !!
Omg... now that u say this I am wondering now bc I don't think I've seen any of EUGENIA family ( besides the ones she lives with) I mean I know we don't see everything but that's another reason why I think she is confined to that house, we NEVER see anyone else... no family, nothing... I really wonder now if her mom & dad ( probably the mom more ) keeps the other family away bc maybe they tried intervening & wanted help for her & they maybe on bad terms, so I could see the mom keeping everyone away that could talk to EUGENIA or shoe her... yes... u need the help, also I noticed on SHANE'S documentary that when she's showing him the locks on the front door ( and their's many ) the ones that concerned me was the 2 long thick boards that u slide across the door ( one in the middle & another a little below ) but slide them across & u can see they are more meant for her bc I am pretty sure they know she can't move them without a struggle ( or at all ) but even if she can they would hear, or be able to stop her before she was to want to leave, idk just something to think bout I guess, so yeah I agree with all u said !!
Yes, it’s pretty obvious that her brain can’t think straight when it is desperate for calories. When she got out of hospital and she had put on a few pounds, she was talking and thinking better.
It is astonishing to me that Eugenia is still alive. How her body functions like that is beyond comprehension.
Yes, it's absolutely astonishing!
Her body must be donated for medical science. It's a fascinating thing.
I thought the same thing, and then I learnt about Ashley Isaacs. How she's alive as well is baffling
That’s how anorexia works. For Karen Carpenter, it took years until one day, after coming home from a tour for a holiday visit with her parents, she went to the closet to get something and collapsed. They can live “normally” until their heart just stops. I am so worried this happen. I wouldn’t be surprised if it happened while she was recording.
She has these "coughing fits" that are more like heart palpitations
Wow, this really sounds similar to Jennette Mccurdy Mom. She made a book called “ I’m glad my mom died “ and talks about her personal life and how her mother convinced her to not eat for the “ best “ for her… Jennette thought her mom wasn’t doing any harm on her until years later she realized she was being abused and manipulated by her own mom. I really hope this girl gets serious help before it’s too late. I just came back to her channel to check in how she was doing after years.
Yup. Wanted her to be her “little girl” forever, that smaller girls are better, and that’s exactly what it looks like, especially combined with her hobbies and toys.
Yes my mother did this to me. Gave me an eating disorder starting at 11 years old and continued into my teens. Thank god I had enough sense to stop listening to her and was mentally strong enough to ignore her comments about my weight. At my heaviest I was only 125lbs and 5'4" which is not even overweight.
Can someone call Jeanette to help her???? Since she's been through it too
The mothers are sick as well. It sad that people treat her like this. We all have some imperfections no one is perfect, but to hinder someone like these mother's have done with their daughters show that the therapy needs to start at the beginning (the mom's)and throughout to undo all of the brainwashing, programming, and grooming that was woven into them as a child.
Munchausin
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You can see after she got help, she wore long sleeves, and was constantly adjusting her clothes to hide herself. She looked so insecure.
So so sad, because she actually started to look GOOD, really good. And she had so much more energy, and had a lot of potential to grow. It sounded like she had learned a lot, but going back to the same house, with her mother, and all the stress, that she relapsed. She wasn’t away long enough, sometimes this takes years to recover.
She needs to get off the internet, away from her mother, and get some help.
She is going to die. It’s so incredibly sad and I am so worried about her. I’ve never been more worried about someone on the internet.
It’s wild to me she keeps staying on the stream when people are saying such mean things.
I didn’t even spot the long clothes thing
@@MrSnowflake she does it every time. When she went to the amourant party. When she went on the onision documentary, when she visits the cops. She knows exactly when to cover up and when not.
Doing that is part of therapy not to look at your own body to trigger yourself.
The reality is that you never fully recover from an eating disorder, you just learn how to live with the intrusive toughts and try to ignore them.
Also when she was like skeletal, there was no life in her eyes. After she got "kidnapped" and was starting to look healthy, the light and life was back in her eyes. And then it went away again.
Not looking forward to the inevitable part 3 where someone tries to help her again only for the video to end with an obituary. She NEEDS help, she needs to get away from her mother, but there's nothing anyone can do if Eugenia won't cooperate.
This is one of those things where I understand why we can't just kidnap adults from their homes to force them into treatment most of the time, but I wish we could. (Is Eugenia an adult?)
That little girl at the end is sooo sensible and so caring at such a young age. Her Mum must be so proud.
When I look at Eugenia, I see such an incredibly lonely person. Surrounded by things children love, like stuffies, and in a toxic abusive relationship with her mother and the whole internet. And her mother and the internet are how WHOLE life. How is someone who's been stunted and infantilized for so long expected to walk away from literally everything she knows and carve out a life for herself?
Honestly I think too much damage has been done to her, and I don't have much hope she'll ever get better. I'll be so sad, but not surprised if we hear about her passing away eventually. 😔
I agree with everything you said. It’s extremely sad but I also don’t think there is anything that can be done now. Not even a small chance while she’s living in that house.
Absolutely true every word 🥺😪
Yeah, unfortunately whether she goes tomorrow or manages a few more yrs, she'll never know a life away from her mother and her monitor. She doesn't even seem to hang out with people anymore like before. Really sad.
👏👏👏👏very well said
She definitely won’t live thru another year.
''sorry if it sounds stupid that i wanted to do that!'' nah that's just awful to hear, i cant imagine what she's being told at home if she feels the need to apologize over something that was her dream
Yeh that bit argh
She needs a yunho
@@AlfieBeingAlfie omg😭❤
Oof 😢
i was a trainee therapist when that videos came out with Shane, Eugenia and the counsellor Katy. To this day, I don’t think that was appropriate at all to bring Eugenia back to the platform after 5 MONTHS of recovery?! Ethically and morally wrong on so many levels
She actually did say the medical tests they took when she was taken were really bad and she was on the brink of death, yet she never admitted that her friends did the right thing in getting her help. She looks worse now than she did then and there her mother is....who she has to ask for permission to even go up the stairs.
No. She said her tests were positive, and that health professionals were surprised, that she was lucky to still be in good health despite her condition.
I believe Jaclyn did what she thought was right - I was part of an intervention for my friend who was an IV heroin addict. But ultimately, it’s the sick individual who has to do the work and spend their life recovering. Eugenia’s illness is her own. And it’s something she’s been stricken with since childhood
Edit to add: my friend died within 9 months of her first trying heroin
@@DanielleStarry When did she say that? That' sounds like she made that up later to cover up her condition again. The whole "My doctor says I'm fine!" When she hadn't been to one in many years.
Eugenia was way worse off than other woman who get into treatment and have to stay for over 6 months, she took herself out because she could. They should have dug into the relationship with the mother.
Jaclyn tried more than anyone else has done in her life, I'm sure her mother wants to keep her the same way so she will not grow up and leave her. The infantilization is so obvious. She's not worried about her daughter, she's only worried about herself.
@@Iflie she said it in that pitiful Shane Dawson collab. You’re inferring a lot of things we don’t know to be true. I would’ve done the same thing if I was Jaclyn, but the thing is that you cannot force someone to get better. Their disorders are their own, the sick person has to do the work managing the illness for the rest of their life. I held an intervention for a friend. She died anyway
@@DanielleStarry Neh I didn't watch that abomination aside from bits other people reacted to, it was all PR with her mother there and them all acting like she was in her right mind and that Jaclyn didn't need to do that. You can't go along with the delusions of a sick person.
Going to rehab only works for anorexia if they can feed you up and change your thinking it's not like heroin treatment. She would have needed to stay at least a year I think. Before she'd even be capable of living on her own. Putting her back with her mother was just going to do the exact same thing it had before.
Herr mother doesn't want her better, that's so obvious, she didn't take her to a doctor as a kid either, didn't put her into any treatment, therapy, stop her from going OL and getting hate. She did none of the things loving mothers do when their child gets sick. I blame the rest of her family too but the mother was the one in control.
Right. She’s literally locked in a basement. Her mom is killing her. I don’t know how her obese mother can look at her daughter who is just skin and bones and say it’s okay. Her mom is so sick there’s the video where her mom is screaming I don’t care I want my money
Seeing how much clearer she was during the recovery video is upsetting. She wet right back into the toxic environment.
Sadly
Yeah that was what Jaqelyn said too, they just put her right back in the exact same situation with her mother and expected a different outcome? The same family that never took her to a doctor and always said she was just fine to the cops.
@@Iflie Right one month of new habits versus a clearly unbalanced and controlling environment. It was a loosing game from the get go. It feels as if it’s worsened ten fold on top of the isolation.
@@Luigi_Board She totally wasn't ready to go home but I think it was voluntairy at that point so they couldn't keep her. I think she quit any sort of therapy then too.
If they are really sick you are not talking to the woman, you are talking to the anorexic brain and she may just have been playing for time to get out to go back to her old ways.
And the thing is, so many other victims of this disorder talk about how it takes over your mind, doctors say the starved brain can't think clearly, yet they still let people like this make their own choices.
If she was younger maybe CPS would take her from her family, but she's locked in as an adult. Body checking and lifting things to show on camera.
I made it through an inpatient ed hospital program- the statistics show relapse is pretty high … it’s like drugs/alcohol: you cannot stay healthy in the environments that made you sick….it’s so sad…I Really don’t see her mother letting this happen…
Urgh that Katie ‘therapist’ just HOGGED the whole video!!! Never liked her
It's always astounded me that she got sooo damn emotional when they claimed she was wearing a diaper... She freaked out. But no emotion when they are concerned & upset about her eating disorder.
She probably has worn a dieaper because of her ED. It's associated with incontinence issues. She's probably embarrassed by it.
Probably because the diaper thing isn’t true and the ED is.
@@theopulentone1650 I don’t think so. She wouldn’t have flashed it. If she lives much longer, she probably will have to wear one, but I don’t think so, yet.
@@Badfishtooomaybe it could be both. The flashing situation wasn’t a diaper but she had to wear them in the past and feels triggered by diapers now.
@@theopulentone1650people in more recent short comments were saying they had the same grey skin tone when they were abusing laxatives so I wouldn’t be surprised. Especially when she does such long streams
No one in Eugenias life cared more then those 3 friends who desperately tried to save her life…They were Eugenias saving grace but in the end it was out of their control.
They bought Eugenia a couple more years, they did their best
@@karma-616 yes.
They didn’t need to go online and talk about though. Esp talking about leaving the house thing. You know for a fact she watched that and probably for sure won’t leave the house now.
@@brittanyhughes2198 They are all influencers, they share their lives on the internet and Eugenia was gone so people were worried.
Also the only reason they came out online was because they wanted to hold Shane, a very big name TH-camr, accountable for sweeping things under the rug and basically making it lighthearted when the situation was very serious.
Shane was the one who made everything public and made a profit too. The only thing Jaclyn got for trying to save her friends life was hatred and thats messed up. In the end it was up to Eugenia to realize she needed help and continue with it, Jaclyn was trying to jumpstart her recovery. Unfortunately Eugenia remains a captive to her addiction and may not survive at this point…
@@AMKmusic96 No, influencers or not, Jaclyn had no business telling everyone about Eugenia’s health struggles.
I’m so scared for her. As a mother of two teenage daughters, I can’t imagine watching them waste away and doing nothing about it. It breaks my heart. Eugenia deserves better
Her Mother was always the problem, it is sad.
Yes, she deserves better 😢
Doing nothing and also profiting off of it. Allegedly, Eugenia supports her whole family including her parents .
@@thewrongshoes Eugenia's family are wealthy. Her dad is a finance executive of a company.
As a mother I can't understand it either. How does she sleep at night? I'd be so scared she just wouldn't wake up. I cannot imagine doing anything but fighting tooth and nail for the help my kids need.
Jaclyn truly cared and did what no one else would do
Nah, she's just another clout chaser.
If she truly cared she wouldn't use the situation for views.
Imagine looking to your mom for confirmation that you're okay and she lies and says, you're just fine even though you're literally dying in front of everyone's eyes.
The way she looked after that 51/50. How anyone could criticize Jaclyn in any fashion after what she did to save her friends life is sick man! Eugenia’s mom is a sick psychopath killing their own daughter. How tragic, how tragic. Smh.😢
agree
I don't question the 5051, I question her filming it and then posting it online.
@@kpoppy9635 why?
@@gamergirlmars ...imagine your best friend posting one of your most personal and vulnerable moments online for everyone to see as you are being whisked away to a mental institution...and they claim it was to "expose" her mom, who she loves. (Even if Eugenia's relationship with her mom is unhealthy, she still loves her.)
I could forgive someone for sectioning me if they really did it cause they cared but I could never forgive my friend filming something like that and posting it online. That's a violation of my boundaries and privacy.
And I personally think it made it worse. Eugenia just ate to get out anyway and it gave her more attention. And now that she's been exposed, she is blatantly body-checking and click-baiting because everyone knows anyway so she doesn't have to be discreet anymore.
@@kpoppy9635 oh I don't agree. If your friends, family, and even the police enable you then good on Jaclyn for letting the world know what's going on. And enablers should be charged with the person's death and held accountable for their complicity.
It's horrifying to know she could pass away in front of a live stream and traumatize her viewers.
Holy cow I never even thought about it like that. Wow. Praying that it doesn’t happen.
((However if it does happen, you’re a confirmed gypsy lol)))
I truly believe half of her viewers are there for exactly that. It's horrific.
@@ImAtYourMumsHouse- I agree with you. Those trolls who leave the hideous comments aren’t there because they’re interested in her content, that’s for sure.
That's a terrifying thought
Why son't you mind your own business, if you have such😅😅😅😅
The fact her mom says at 7:58 that she’s not concerned about her daughters health is what we’ve all known all along. She doesn’t give any f’s if her 30 year old daughter is dying , as long as she can make money off her
Manchausen by Proxy
I don’t understand why her mother isn’t getting her help.
@Sweet Histortea the comment above yours holds the answer.
She’s 30!?!?
28 years old. Get it right.
When she started crying about the diaper comments I literally started crying, her pain is just so much, it actually breaks my heart, I’m not religious but I’m seriously hoping with every fiber of my being that this woman can experience health and happiness someday
I felt bad too, but she DID cause the whole thing herself. What started it was her CONSTANTLY showing her crotch. She did a Instagram earlier that day and had her skirt hiked up sitting in the car, and held the camera out so you could see her underwear full on crotch shot. It looked all bulky like a pad , and people started saying it was a diaper.
I hate she had that breakdown, but her constant flashing is an issue. She still does it nearly every stream and says it's "no big deal" because it "only showed for a second". She has flashed both top and bottom. She always says it's an accident, but it happens way too much.
A couple of nights ago, she was doing "just dance" and went spread eagle on the floor. People in chat tell her over and over to wear shorts under her mini skirts when she dances, but she sees nothing wrong with it. Once again, I think her Mom is the problem there as well
. Apparently, her Mom sees nothing wrong with getting Eugenia to undress in front of a bunch of people in a store (tried on a bathing suit right out in the open. There is even a video where she showed her privates full on and you see way more than underwear. It was from several years ago, that is how long this has been going on.
Mr. Snowflake mentioned her flashing briefly, but it's a whole thing...with creeps in her chat telling her gross stuff and asking her to do things (and she does it). I don't mean this to bash her, but she is not the innocent she pretends to be. So she kind of brings all this on herself (not saying it's right at all)
Just watch her older videos....she does some weird stuff, like making prank calls about rape etc.
For real, after seeing her talking about getting bullied in school, and some of the cruel things people said to her online, her just breaking down into tears because people said she was wearing a diaper... that's just so mean. It's so hard to be optimistic in this world sometimes when you see people being that cruel for literally no reason. Why can't those people go bully Onision or the MAPs of twitter or whatever instead of bullying her?
@@FrenkTheJoy that clip of onision with the cucumbers made me so mad. he is the actual worst.
@@kittyfriend9888 Onision is a spineless bully. Can’t stand the guy.
I cried too... She is actually very strong for putting up with all of that bullying. I'm not even half that strong.
i couldn't help but notice how when shane appeared, she's fully covered to "hide" how healthy she became, but you can see it in her cheeks. mere weeks later, she's back to revealing clothing, moreso than before, and even skinnier than previously before the break. and she later says she hated that moment in her life, which says she doesn't care what it'll do to her in the end. she's beyond help.
I noticed it too. So sad she's in a vicious circle.
Jaclyn, the only person in Eugenia’s life who genuinely loved her enough to make the hard choice of an intervention.
An ED is the same exact thing as having a heroin addiction. All addictions are. You won’t stop until you are forced to or you’ve hit rock bottom and genuinely want change.
She knew Eugenia was probably gonna hate her. But a friend who hates you is better than a dead friend.
I’ve had to make that call. My friend in college had become a full blown addict in just six months, and had been kicked out of school. She was staying with a leach of a girlfriend strung out constantly. I had to call her Mom to come get her. She was furious, and swore she’d never speak to me again. 8 years later, she found me on Facebook. I was right she needed help badly. I can’t say that she got clean right away after her Mom came and got her, but she eventually did.
@@danderson8431 Good on you for having the courage and empathy to make the call and do the right thing. It’s especially hard if you have anxiety or self-esteem issues or are a people pleaser, and that’s what holds a lot of ppl back from doing it. So I’m so happy you had the bravery to do it.
I agree about the drug addiction comparison
Agreed. My boyfriend and father of my daughter had a coke addiction. He was forced into rehab for 90 days and he's back to his amazing self for the most part. He still has some problems that arise because of the excessive use, but he seems happier and better now
My friends did the same for me. My two best friends, I was deep in addiction and super in denial. I was 5150d I was so angry… for 3 days… and I’ve been thankful ever since.
People have to really REALLY love you to try to save your life knowing you might hate them afterwards
It's wild to see old videos where she formed full sentences with complete thoughts. I'm one of the ones that checks her channel to see if she's still alive on occasion. Watching this is honestly so sad.
This story is unbelievable. I can’t believe that her condition was literally dismissed. She is the definition of someone who can not make her own decisions about her well being. Her mother should go to jail for actually not intervening. If you watch someone cut their wrists and are dying and you sit by and do nothing then you are liable.
When she was crying about the diaper rumor i swear that was her real honest voice breaking through and that's even more heart breaking
Yeh no character
She has high anxiety, she is on meds for. Her voice is high from anxiety. When she's more confident, her voice is more toned. That's literally what happens to your voice
@@lfairy6130what on earth would make you think she’s feeling more confident when discussing a humiliating rumor. Get off your high horse and use your brain
@L Fairy She literally up pitches her voice for a character. It's not all anxiety. I have a consuming anxiety disorder, and it doesn't permanently change my voice. That's not how that works.
@@lfairy6130 her voice is like that because she’s so weak she can’t put any strength into her voice. It’s that simple.
Watching her body check herself while sitting next to Katie Morton broke me. I got this sick feeling the first time I noticed that. I knew she was already falling back into the ED and needed back into rehab that minute. I hope she can get back on the track to wellness some day.
Unfortunately, she was never mentally in recovery because she was forced to be there and put on weight. Weight is only a symptom of this disorder and why she physically looked better she still was struggling mentally.
I hope one day she will want a accept help on her own accord.
It's too late for her
We can only watch...
Katie Morton has many flaws as a therapist, I feel she did more harm than good for EC. It says a lot about Katie that EC's mother allowed her access.
I don't have an ED, and I didn't know much about body checking, but I *knew* there was something wrong in that clip. The way she's just grasping herself... It made me anxious 😰
What ED can be cured in 30 days? Name one...
28:02 This little baby. Oh my dear gracious. My heart just crumbles. Even babies are so concerned that the world will lose her before she can recover.
My heart goes out to all survivors of ED. You are worthy. You are soulful. You deserve comfort. You deserve health.
Oh my goodness, she looked so much healthier after rehab- it was so jarring to see her lose all of her weight gain back. :c
Her mom always sounds really intoxicated. I have a feeling she’s using Eugenia’s money to fund an addiction.
Edit to add: the youtuber who criticized Jaclyn is not a doctor, and is a misogynist. And the “therapist” who talked with Eugenia, is a marriage counselor, not an expert in EDs.
Thanks for your comment x
Wait, I don’t watch Todd, what are the misogynistic things he has said?
@@AreYouGoneAlready rewatch videos of him talking about “troubled” young women, and you’ll notice a pattern with him.
He always victim blames when a young woman is involved, and his “jokes” become cruel.
@@AreYouGoneAlready look up “why I unsubscribed from dr grande”
Yup! And the “therapist” who made the video with Eugenia was the same “therapist” who advised Jaclyn to get the 51/50 put in place for Eugenia. Twisted, right?
30 years ago, when I was 14, I was 5'6 and 93-97 lbs and I wore a size double zero. I was literally called in by my Principal in school and asked if I had an eating disorder. I ate all the time and I was naturally skinny but this, this is not okay. I've been 5150 and yes I was pissed!!!! Her Mother is the spitting image of my mom. From the baby talk to get demanding and disregarding nature. My mom encouraged me to date grown men when I was 14. Dressing provocatively at a very young age. She used to tie me up and gag me and beat me. Put guns to my head.....this Mom is far scarier behind closed doors and Eugenia has found a way to survive with her abuser. Stockholm Syndrome is involved for sure and I wouldn't be surprised if Mom is trying to kill her but make it look like it's her own daughter doing it to herself. My mom encouraged skinny skinny skinny. The mom's project their issues onto us.
I'm sorry you grew up with a mom like that and hope that you've been able to move away from that influence.
Exactly! My grandmother always pushed me to stay skinny. I'm 4' 11" and because of my grandmother's pushing, telling me I'd be unattractive to my bf, I got back into my size 0 less than a month after having an almost 9 pound baby. I had a c section so there was still some swelling, too. Even during my heroin addiction when I weighed about 87 pounds she made comments about my thighs. Now she's dead and I'm sober (been clean 8 years now) and I'm actually a bit overweight for my height at 135 pounds.
Writing this made me think..... If Eugenia outlives her mom maybe she'll get help/get better just out of spite.
The fact that the mom was encouraging her to try on swimming suits in public shows her need for people to notice and sympathize. Her mother likes that people look at her and that she gets negative attention. Some people love being a perpetual victim.
Munchausen's by proxy
It’s crazy looking back at how she looked then. It’s so sad. I can’t believe how her body has managed to stay alive.
Well I mean, it's the same as way people who are obese to morbidly obese in their teens and 20s are still able to survive, the body when it's in youth is able to keep pushing on but I fear that when she gets into her 30s, specifically her mid to late 30s, that is when she will most likely start experiencing the severe health consequences.
Obesity has a much lower role rate of anorexia. 10% don’t make it. 1/10 pass away.
@@FoodieBeautyStan it's (obesity) still the leading cause of death, at least in America
@Broski Snowski I didn't say that you're guaranteed to die prematurely from obesity, far from it. But you'll definitely be living a less than ideal life in terms of mobility. I watched my grandmother, mother, and my uncle whom were obese and how they spent the rest of their lives. My grandmother spent the last few years of her life bedridden since she had bad back and knee pain from all the weight she was carrying. Same thing happened with my mother with the back and knee pain because of the excessive weight.
My grandmother died at 71 of a heart attack but I would say she lived a long life. My mother passed at 50. And my uncle passed away at 38 from heart attack and my uncle's diet consisted of a lot of fast food on the daily.
But yeah, I was not trying to say that you're guaranteed to die early, just that you'll be more than likely to experience health and mobility complications.
me too.
Someone needs to call adult protective services to do an investigation for this girl
All those things have been done already, repeatedly.
That sweet, sincere girl at the end really touched my heart. I’m glad she sees this for what it is, so many young girls are watching.
Yeah she seemed lovely sneak level headed
My daughter was one of them too! I am grateful that she has a healthy relationship with food.
@@axollotI'm grateful your daughter has a Mom that cares! So many of us poisoned by Ana and/or Mia do not have that positive maternal figure.
@MomMom4Cubs Damn..I am sorry!
I have tried to be involved with my kids. They are adults now, both have struggled with Ana, my gay son really really suffered from Ana. My daughter has been both very thin and overweight. We have both been told to eat more despite our weight loss being related to hormones and stress.
I've lost a child to mental illness, that woke all of us up to be more supportive and to talk more.
Sometimes, being too involved with the kids can make a problem worse just like neglect does. Striking a balance can be hard.
Wish all parents were able to provide emotional support for their children, so many adults are barely getting threw life themselves. Hang in there! Only we can change ourselves, but we need our family to support us as we do it. 🌹🥺❤️
That little girl shouldn’t be online making videos
I used to be very involved in ED groups and many of my friends used to use EC and another girl as an example that they could live with their condition for an extended period of time.
They really couldn't. Every year I would log in to that community to see how are things going - and I would log in to yet another dead acquaintance. Mainly organ failure. Not all of them, but even one was too many and then there was one too too many.
Maybe it was that unlike Eugenia they had to live their adult life on their own and that wears you out faster. Maybe it gets a hold of you faster in a third world country. So many factors weren't considered when they said I'll be fine, I don't need recovery, she's lived like this for years and I want and can be her - and now those who really should've considered everything aren't around.
I'm not saying I wish demise on EC, but I can't forgive her for making those girls believe it was okay. I see their names reflected in her eyes.
Yeah this is sad because it hurts her but it's infuriating because she's broadcasting it and has an audience that is following her lead. I definitely don't think people should bully her cause it won't help but I definitely get why people are so frustrated at her
Yeah I think one part of her being able to stay alive at that weight is probably because she barely leaves her room, she sits in a chair for hours everyday and doesn't put any strain on her heart in form of physical activity, elevated heart rate ect, if she was actually living a real life with a job and went out of the house she probably would be worse off
It’s not Eugenia’s fault your mentally ill friends passed away, dude. I know it hurts and you want to find someone at fault, but Eugenia isn’t the reason those poor friends of yours are no longer with us
The thing is, most low weight anorexics do survive into their late twenties, early thirties before succumbing to their illness, which seems like forever in your early teens when this begins for most people.
@@jessicahay9305 most but not all. When you're such a popular public figure, you gotta consider that "but" - or you accept that you inspire something that has a 20% chance of costing someone their life.
That darling little girl at the end of the video just chocked me up 😢. And there are so many truly caring loving people who are deeply worried. Too bad that all of us are considered “bullies” in Eugenia’s eyes.
I hope the girls who bullied her in school are aware of the impact they caused
But, you can't play victim your whole life 🤷♀️
@@elanamarie0517 - But, bullying can have a LIFE LONG impact on people. That's not "playing victim". I am all for people being accountable and I never let people get away with playing the victim but this poor girl IS a victim. Jesus Christ the shit that people have said about her. I'm not saying she's correct about some things but Onision dressing up like her and pulling his usual shit is NOT okay and a lot of the gossip channels all but making fun of her... all that's doing is making her worse. I'm sorry but those people are contributing her inevitable death.
@@13lilsykosOnision was a scumbag whose channel was about bullying other people and putting them down...unless they were a pretty young white girl who worshipped the ground he walked on.
It’s her mom more than anything
@@13lilsykosit can and it's awful. At the same time, though, a person has to work through that stuff. If they allow it to affect them their whole life then it will. You have to get help or contextualize it and not let it define you anymore. It's easier said than done but you have to choose to move on.
I will always remember the day my mother was rubbing aloe onto a terrible sunburn I had gotten and she lifted my arms to my side and told me I was wasting away. She didn't get emotional, she simply told me she hoped I would see how sick and frail I was and make changes to be healthy. I cannot imagine what would have happened if she'd sat by and let me whither.
We don’t know how many times Eugenia’s mother has done that exact same thing. It seems her mother (however shitty she may be) is simply trying to enjoy the time she has left with her adult daughter who can’t be helped
Did you get better?
@@malenyluna5275 I was able to achieve a healthy weight and other disordered eating developed. I don't think I'll ever have a decent relationship with food but my health is good.
@@briannemurdock4183 ❤
@@briannemurdock4183 wishing you a healthy road to recovery my guy :)
I remember being in HS and having an ED and the most terrifying thing in my world is that someone was going to come in and make me stop. I truly don’t think it has anything to do with food either. It was taking away the control I had over the situation. The problem was if I wasn’t in control of this situation, then I was going to completely break down mentally. I look back and realize how horrid this situation was, but in it, I was in complete denial. From the unhealthy people in my life, came positive attention. Girls were asking what they could do to lose weight and wanted to spend their time with me, so they could achieve weight loss. It was very toxic. I felt like my success and status were a direct reflection of my weight. If something went wrong, I thought it was attributed to my weight and wouldn’t have happened if I were this size instead of this size. I also saw how unhealthy people looked who were carrying too much weight and they’d try to say they embraced their unhealthy lifestyle. They were happier eating what they wanted to eat regardless of their health, and I didn’t agree with that. How could you be happy if you felt exhausted, sluggish, and your body wasn’t operating correctly because it wasn’t receiving proper nutrition and obesity takes years off your life and takes away from the quality of life you still currently have. Nutrition is what needs to be pushed, not ED in one direction or the other, because obesity is an ED too. Bottom line is she’s not that size naturally, she’s anorexic and terrified to stop. I think she equates her mothers love and acceptance based on her weight. Her mother is obese and out of control and therefore controls and encourages her basically killing here. The last thing as a mother I’d ever want to see are my children is then withering away and in their underwear. This mother needs criminal charges right against her and she needs to go back to rehab and often going into a nutrition and fitness career path where they’re able to truly learn how to properly nourish their bodies and spread that level of awareness to others who are struggling whether it be anorexia, bulimia, or obesity.
Yes !! If Eugenia was an eIderIy person, AduIt protective services wouId charge her mother with neglect !! Her mother wiII be responsible for enabling her death. Idk why someone cannot stop the train wreck we aII see coming. 😔
I really recommend everyone to look into Jennette McCurdy's book "I'm Glad My Mom Died".
It details how her mother basically encouraged and influenced her eating disorder at a very early age so she could be successful as an actress. Jeanette's mother wanted to keep her in a childlike state for as long as possible, so Jeanette could pursue childlike roles as an actress. Her mother also used money as a form of control. Her mother would shame her and get angry when she would gain any amount of weight. I believe this situation is comparable to Eugenia's, per her history. There are a lot of details within Jeanette's story that parallel Eugenia's. Of course, this is all speculation per her history and based on observation. We don't truly know what is going on behind the scenes.
Her Dad also likes how she looks... He was pretty creepy about it when he showed up in a few livestreams on YouNow and her brother draws her naked. It seems her whole family is encouraging this
Good point. MANY -- if not most -- Hollywood "show business" families are involved in the occult. And, in Eugenia's case, the factual evidence points to Eugenia's slow, painful murder at the hands of Deb via SRA (satanic ritual abuse). As they say: "The devil is in the details," and every single one of Eugenia's social media contributions are FILLED with signs and symbols that point to the fact that the Cooney family (at the very least, the narcissistic mother, Deb) are in the occult, and Eugenia has most likely been subjected to SRA since infancy. Let me reiterate: The DEVIL is in the DETAILS.....
It really got me seeing her cry, she's clearly not well, mentally and physically, I wish people weren't so cruel. (I'm not talking about her friends who tried to get help for her, I completely understand why they did it)
Seeing her cry was hard
It left a lump in my throat; these same people are monsters.
This is s person who was already horrifically tormented through out childhood during her most impressionable years.
How is this lost on anyone? What happened to treat others like you'd want to be??
People think that her positivity is an act but what if it's a defense mechanism and when people say she is mean, it's actually her being frustrated and unable to be vocal about what she wants or how to stop people from hating her.
@@setofreakinkaiba8553 The people verbally evicerating her are just as horrid of poor excuses for humans as the very kids that tormented & tortured her through her school years.
Just like that trauma most likely causes her issues, these online creeps will ironically be the death of her. Evil.
When she cried I didn’t see her wipe tears away, and she probably made thousands of points or whatever (which equals real money) as she was crying. It’s the same when they ask her to move heavy things or do physical activity
I was also diagnosed with borderline. My mother is also manipulative and narcistic. One time she's nice, another one she will put me down. She has put me down so often that it was incredibly hard for me to actually move into a new career routine because I stopped believing in myself. But thankfully I have my best friend who never gave up on me no matter my mood swings, mistakes or issues. Thanks to her I am now in night school. I am still so scared but with their help I think I can manage. My mother told me I was too dumb to finish this class, mainly because of math's and that she loves me wholeheartedly but she just knows I won't make it. Which again made me become very hurt and mad. We've had lots of issues like this. She also loved to put me down. Saying I am ugly or my body is ugly when in fact, I am a very beautiful young woman and I think she's jealous of my bravery and my success so far. She will also gift me something sometimes but then start off like "oh this looks so much better on YOU I am just ugly..." when I was in the mental hospital and they diagnosed me with bpd as well, she said she knew what it was but it was obviously not her fault. This makes me very mad and I try not to think too much about it. She barely calls. I always have to call her... I believe she wants to be a good mother but our connection is off...
And she also blames my grandma for babying me sometimes, doing too much for me. I am not independent with everything and yes sometimes her love is also a bit suffocating. But at least she shows that she cares more... I think if I would have stayed with my mum or dad, hell would have broken lose. Seeing from my trauma bond ex relationship, I could become so mad. I sometimes even think I might have lost it and actually hurt someone. Please always surround yourself with people that are good for your mental health.
Her outbursts on stream made me feel such sadness. Her mother reminds me a bit of how mine used to be. Growing up in her house was hell and I was also very very underweight during it (not to her extent). The only way she will get better is if she moves out and away from her mom, and that is a very hard thing to do for many children with abusive/narcissistic parents. I feel so bad for her. It is tragic this has all been documented online
What is she a gamer? I don’t watch her channel
She is 30 this year, so it doesnt seem to happen. Fully agree with your comment, this is so so sad! Its crazy, i remember her from years and years back, and this vid came up in my feed, after checking her IG im in deep shock, understanding all of this regarding her mother is just heartbreaking! Im not a religious person, but in this case i pray for her health, we all should
The bit at 7:37 is absolutely insane. You can tell by her mother's facial expressions that she's looking for the right words to save face, because she KNOWS that something is terribly wrong but can't admit to it. She's either in deep deep denial about Eugenia's condition, or she's enabling/manipulating her into staying sick for her own personal gain (whatever it may be). Because no one in their right mind would say that Eugenia's weight isn't a concern while she's looking like THAT.
I knew someone who suffered an eating disorder in school. Her mother was a controlling psycho and as soon as she got away from her mother she recovered. Anorexia from my understanding stems from a feeling of lack of control. Eugenia will never get better while she is in that home.
You are wise for figuring that out, because
You are exactly right.
I love my mom..I have an eating disorder. Two years ago it got very bad... I told my mom I was 93lbs, & she was shock. When I got to 89lbs she became very scared. Since then, with my moms support, I have made it up to 110lbs. (:
Well done!!!!!
@@MrSnowflake thank you so much !!!! My mom also has an eating disorder! From 115lbs most of life to now 140lbs, & she feels great !!!!
So glad to hear this!!🎉🎉
You're awesome, for real 💪 💯
Seeing her recently, I fear she doesn't have much time left at all. Her friends did all they could to get her help, and I truly believe they did the right thing. They received so much backlash, which sucks. But when someone you love is wasting away, you have to make tough choices.
Her mom is clearly feeding her delusion that she is okay and healthy. Getting her away from her mother and that environment is the only way she can save herself and start to heal. I have a daughter, and I couldn't fathom supporting my child as she is on the brink of death. Mark my words, her mom will try to blame her death on the trolls and her followers. She will say she was under too much stress and pressure. I pray this doesn't happen, but that's where I see it headed.
People been saying that for years. She'll outlive all of us.
@@e_i_e_i_bro I truly doubt that.....
Delusion seems to be the only thing her mom feeds her
She lost so much of her beautiful hair! I saw her most recent Instagram photo and I was shocked.
TBH the trolling is completely counterproductive. It’s clear that no online commentary or observations have any positive impact whatsoever, so her salvation is limited to real world interventions. Until someone devises a way to extricate her from that toxic home environment, anyone attempting to influence change is at best wasting their time.
Props to this channel for this amazing Doc. It was really good and hoping for a part 3.
Thank you for treating her story with the compassion it deserves. The only person who can save Eugenia is Eugenia, rooting for her always ❤
Lovely comment fingers crossed for her
I agree with you about Eugenia. Only she can get herself better. The problem is, she knows subconsciously that she's getting attention, which is exactly what she wants. The other problem is, people forget she's a 30 year old woman, and if she's going to choose to continue to be like this, there's absolutely nothing anyone can do about it .
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This video deserves an award. Thank you for making such a sincere documentary
You are more than welcome
@@MrSnowflake I want to echo the sentiment. I am moved. Thank you for covering it with compassion. Instead of mockery.
@@MrSnowflake The best video I've seen on Eugenia. Also very well edited.
Seeing Eugenia breakdown at the end made me break down. No matter what you think about this girl, she’s still a human being who’s endured suffering for YEARS. Her own mothering watching it in front of her. I can’t imagine how that impacts her self image. Someone else in the comments mentioned that her mother controls every aspect of her life & her ED is the one thing she feels she has control over. I know for myself if anything does happen to her & we all watched it happen it’ll truly be one of the saddest phenomena to come from the internet.
I have AN too - when I got really bad and stopped eating pretty much completely my mum was the one that got me sectioned and wouldn’t let me come home until I ate again. She sat with me through every meal and made sure I was eating. She’s a top notch mum. I can’t believe Eugenia’s mum just lets her starve like this :/
I feel so bad for Jacklyn because she just wanted to help her friend and now she’s seen as a villain when she’s not. It’s very sad. And I hate seeing Eugenia slowly die in front of the camera. She has such a pure heart, and the ED part of her brain has no idea that we would love her even more if she put on some weight and got healthy. Man it sucks.
made me tear up a few times. im anorexic and have grown up watching her get worse. i felt so much better about the idea of recovery when she did and thought i had hope. it’s truly something id never wish on anyone else but at the same time i don’t see myself ever reaching that point either. sad
Hi. I was anorexic for 30 years before finding a 12 step program. It was hard first 2 years bc I had to let go of control but ultimately, this was 12 years ago and I haven't relapsed. I'm sorry for anyone who gets anorexia. It's the devil.
I remember when she came back from rehab and TH-cam break, and seeing her so much more vibrant and healthy (still very thin but much healthier than before) was so nice. It was that much more heartbreaking to see her relapse. She was on a road to recovering, and I feel her mother likely played a role in veering her off.
Listening to Eugenia speak coherently is surreal. I wish so much for her to be able to get back to being herself. Unfortunately I think this has been a lifelong battle and as long as she is living with her mother, I don't forsee anything getting better. It's heartbreaking.
Eugenia's mom is like Jeanette McCurdy's mom but Eugenia has been convinced that they are just fine. This is all normal. I bet if Eugenia outlives her mom her perspective will change. I lived with a narcissistic, controlling mom who manipulated me into playing Cinderella much of my life. I hope she gets a chance to live without her mom.
jeanette mccurdy lies she was out of the limelight and needed attention her mom was not that bad she writes this after her mother dies so she cant stick up for herself go figure.
17:49 I understand that in her situation being asked the same thing over and over can get old, but there's no way with the way she eats and drinks she isn't peeing out teaspoons of pee and liquid shit, I struggled with an ED, NEVER got to her weight, and still had bathroom issues. The pain in her voice doesn't sound like frustration from lies, it sounds like humiliation from truth.
I would cry too if I desperately tried to live in denial about my ed and suddenly everyone in my stream knew i had a diaper on bc of it.
There was a time I saw her be asked if her mom helps her shower and she had the same inflection in her voice when she said no that's a lie.
I think so too actually. Because lets be real, her twitch content thrives on her reading every comment and answering every question, even the disrespectful ones. There must be some other reason that the diaper comments especially struck a cord.
Yup :( the pain really sounds like someone who knows what's happening, but is deeply ashamed of wearing diapers (very understandable as an adult). Like if you don't wear diapers and people accuse you of it... Most people will just laugh and be confused. But if you start crying ---- that tells you all you need to know. I feel so bad seeing her cry and I just hope she gets help :(
Jesus, you weren't kidding. This one was way too hard to watch, poor girl. Really feel sad for her
Yeah I’m
Sorry. Some bits I had to skip over when editing ha just couldn’t watch again
As a recovered anorexic, there’s such a difference between hating and caring. Hating often encourages the bad behaviour…
If she doesn’t get help, and she does pass, I hope that at least a new law will be made to force treatment and look into these types of situations. I also hope that there will be laws that will be made to take emotional and mental abuse more seriously. My heart breaks for her. She’s simply a victim of emotional abuse and manipulation and she needs help. So does her mother.
Force can sometimes make it worse
Your suggestion of "forcing" people into treatment is scary. That is opening a door to all sorts of abuse.
Hm I didn’t think about that. It’s just heart breaking to see these things happen. It makes me wonder if there’s more that can be done to prevent it.
@@vgeez9952 gosh, I'm sorry if I come off too harsh. You care about Eugenia and you care about all people who suffer, I'm sure your heart just wishes happiness for them. And sorry, I'm about to get preachy, but doing bad things in the name of "helping others" are the good intentions that pave the road to hell. Here's an example....I was dating a guy who decided to test me, he wanted to see how sincere I was and find out my true intentions. In the process, he mocked me, he shut me up, and he wouldn't let me speak. He was trying to test my morality, but in the process he showed me where his morality truly was.
Similarly, Jaclyn claims that she was trying to help Eugenia....but she was willing to lie, trick, and set Eugenia up for a kidnapping, in order to "help" Eugenia. That's terrifying. Yeah Eugenia's mom might be terrible, but those 3 friends are not justified in their behavior and are blaming the mom for their poor actions.
Again, sorry to be so personal, but I've been sexually abused, and the men who did it claimed they were helping me. I did not consent, but they were so convinced that they knew what was best for me and I ended up with PTSD. So that's what I mean when I say forcing other people against their will can really open the door to abuse.
My best advice is to worry about one's self. If I ever feel the need to lie, manipulate, hide, become forceful, in order to do the "right" thing, I try to catch myself and walk away. I can only control my morality and I can only control my actions. I will not let myself become a manipulative trickster no matter what the reason.
Anyway, that's just my opinion. You don't have to agree with me, but I appreciate that you've considered my opinion.
Don't wish for that we already have too many laws and there's too much corruption with police and judges that lie and that arrest you for breathing wrong we do not need more laws. Unfortunately people are have free will and they can live their life the way they want You can't force them to live another way and you shouldn't try much like addicts they will find a way. We should never have some type of martial law that forces people. Eugenia is an adult she does get out and you can't force her into it and you should not force anybody into it because it won't stick. Then she'll just get somebody else's abusive to her like a guy I mean it doesn't help you cannot for somebody's mental state. They have to want to get better and we do not need any more laws we need about a million times less laws with just the important ones being enforced that are not enforced currently like crap with pedophiles and rape
I couldn't see how depressed I was, and lost a decade to just sleeping all day. I pray if she ever has a moment of clarity again, she will ask for help. She seems very nice. Bless her.
How you doing now?
I wish you the best in your future endeavors
Did it change?.. I'm there now..
@@Sam-kd9hw Hey, that was so kind of you to comment, Thank you. I wish you the best too.
Going through this. I hate medicine and I don’t want to be on it so I’m praying to God to help me get through this
Her mother is showing signs of Munchausen by proxy, a very serious illness. If someone was able to get her mother the 5150 insetad, I feel Eugenia would maybe have a shot at healing.
her mom is a terrible human being she 100% has been manipulating her daughter all this years how tf is that legal
You don’t dislike your prison if it feels like a familiar, comfortable home.
Her brother and father are also terrible, her draws her naked and her father makes weird comments about her looking like a child
@@AutisticKittyStar How do you know of her father and brother?
@@pinkiepiek1d808 There's a video about it on TH-cam
I would have to say that there is a fair amount of manipulation on the daughter's part. that is part & parcel with this disorder. She is controlling her weight because her mom is controlling every other aspect of her life. Eugenia is probably very controlling, sly, manipulative concerning what she is or is not eating as a way to 'get back' at her mother. She probably plays a lot of mind games to get what she wants, too.
On another note, I feel so bad when she starts talking about her experiences with bullying. She keeps apologizing and saying things like "I'm sorry if this sounds stupid, it probably is, I know it's dumb". Someone was feeding those thoughts to her, probably for a while. I wonder if her mom has said those things to her. That the way she feels is stupid.
I will never get behind the idea that Eugenia is the bad guy. She is a victim of her mother's insecurities and depravities. I sincerely hope she survives this and finds her freedom
Oh, God. What can I say? Whilst I'm not anorexic, I am currently in recovery from bulimia. I would not be in recovery AT ALL if I still had my toxic trauma llama "mother" in my life in any capacity. This makes Eugenia's story so much more devastating for me. It makes me super sad that it seems, as of now, that she'll never be free of her.
When she was in recovery, she seemed SO MUCH BETTER. I'm sorry her mother poisoned yet another attempt at wellness.
Recovery is possible, and well worth the journey! I started by giving Mia the day off, then another, and another. Now it's 18 months of days, and I "give her the day off" every day when I wake up. Last week, it wasn't the first thing I thought about when I woke up. What a milestone!
I pray all those out there find the strength within to throw off their toxic shadows of sickness and abuse, too! Eugenia does not glorify Ana or Mia, and her image is used as thinspo without consent. My heart breaks for her! This sweet lady deserves a better, less selfish and non-codependent mother!
So proud of you and happy to hear you’re in the process of recovery, kick @ss.🫶🏻
That’s amazing 🎉 I was friends with Ana for my late teens- early 20s. Now in my 30s I’m a healthy mother of 4 ❤ I too had to cut out my own mother and from then recovery was possible. 18 months is amazing truly.
Her mother also infantilzes her. She is a 27-28 year old woman! Not a 16 yo. My kids are 22 and 25, all and everything i so is to teach them how to be independent adults. She's like a chlid.
E always apolozing breaks my heart and is clearly related to a problem. She is so sweet and endearing. I used to think she had an illness (not ED specifically). I have an invisible illness (hEDS, I'm a chub) so gave her the benefit of the doubt but she clearly doesn't eat and it breaks my heart. She's such a sweet girl :( Her mother is smothering and slowly killing her/watching her die. SMH.
Anorexia affects your brain functionality too
Omg diddnt realize she was that old
She is like 29 this year
Her Dad also likes her looking like a child, if you know what I mean and her brother draws her naked
I spent a long time really angry at Eugenia and I’m not sure exactly what my thoughts were and how I came to be so angry but now I feel incredibly sad and guilty for feeling that way in the first place. I think… she’s lonely, was never taught how to love herself, and has been hurt and manipulated her whole life
Everything about her after she came back from the rehab program is so jarring compared to now. The color in her skin, the life in her eyes, the way she speaks, her makeup skills…it’s fucking heartbreaking. I honest to god hope she isn’t past the point of no return and can get help before it’s finally too late.
It's the fact that after she got out the hospital she wasn't as thin but still very unhealthy but was at least a little better. That's how you know she really isn't just that size it's anorexia .
Exactly
yes.💯
To be fair, from what I've heard, they force you eat a very large amount of calories daily, way over 2500+. They also force you to be stationary. Anyone would gain weight.
@@NineTailedFate I definitely can't speak for all programs but when I was in inpatient they very slowly incremented calories! If they don't it will cause a huge shock to your system, your stomach can't handle all that food so quickly and it causes immense pain and intestinal issues i.e. refeeding syndrome. For instance my first few weeks in, they started me at 1200 calories and incremented as I slowly gained weight. By the end I was at about 2000 calories and that was after 4 months.
Buuuut based on what Eugenia said, they may have actually not incremented her like this as it does sound like she suffered from refeeding syndrome (if she was actually being truthful and not trying to make excuses).
Just wanted to clarify because if someone who has an ED saw that it might really scare them from going in a recovery program - 2500+ is very very high for someone with anorexia!
Again not trying to criticize because it definitely could be true for other programs, just want to say not all programs are like that and probably shouldn't be!
@@NineTailedFate With how far gone she is, i don't think they could have gotten her up to 2500 calories in that time without risking major injury.
Also, why all the S&M outfits? She fusses with her hair, which is clearly a wig. Isn’t it common for anorexic people to completely loose their hair? Also teeth and fingernails.
Why has it not occurred to anyone that the reason this girl is suffering/punishing herself plus the element of control that ED is based on, came from the horrid level of bullying she endured!?
Omg. She was hit in the head with yo-yo's, shoved into walls!?
This happened all the way through HS.
This isn't bullying, it's torment.
And the people who did that to her probably faced and continue to face no repercussions at all for it. People are terrible, I'd bet those people who were so cruel to her in school don't even feel bad about it 10 years later.
People forget that anorexia os a psychological disorder where weight is only a symptom.
@@FrenkTheJoy It makes me angry and physically sick to my stomach, truly. If anything her mother is confirmably culpable of, it's not getting this girl into counseling whilst she was younger.
People are evil, it's shameful bc I can't think of one person alive that would want the same done to them. Including these online tormentors. The irony? These are the very people that will be the ones to end her life. 💔
@@bonniehowell9206 You nailed it. It's self punishment and the need for control. Well put.
The blood of her death is on her bullies hands
Watching her recovery video again hurts. I have a song called Play Pretend that really hits on this sentiment: "if I just keep telling myself Things I say to everyone else, Maybe someday I'll listen." Her story hurts so bad.
Aw. The way she looks now is so sad.
@@MrSnowflake imagine the way she feels. Poor girl just wants to live her life. And even more unfortunately... she just wants to live her life on the internet. And was successful at it...I just want to hug her. And give her a different outlet.
@@dootdoot94xo44 I mean. She probably doesn't want to, to be fair. Her mental health is something that she is ignoring, for sure. She's playing pretend. It's what she's had to do her whole life, and that really sucks.
Who is the artist of the song you're mentioning?
@@sephiek923 Me. The song is called Play Pretend, and it's on my channel.
Her mum has Munchhausen’s by proxy ! She wants to keep her daughter sick and loves the attention ! Very much like Gypsy Rose Blanchard situation , how can she not see she’s killing her it’s absolutely heartbreaking
It's so hard to watch her because you know that everything she says is fake.
Not at all. It hurts to watch because she's sick and well beyond the point when most people are capable of recovery.
Truth
@Just Jamie Hey, I seen your name @ the end in the credits! So cool 😎 also we share the same name❤️
@@FrootLoopz88 hi!
You can tell she’s being sincere when her voice is lower. The higher her voice gets the more she’s lying.
That little girl at the end is incredibly emotionally mature and articulate. I wonder what she is up to today? What an empathetic child. That’s actually pretty rare.
Its actually a red flag. It means the kid had to be emotionally available to her parents from a young age. Which will work against her when she grows up.
@@BlackBird447not always true. There are these kids on TH-cam that are extremely emotionally intelligent ever since they were literal babies that couldn’t talk. I don’t know the name of the TH-cam channel but I know one of the kids is named Frankie.
Sometimes it is from having to grow up too fast, but sometimes it’s just from the amount of resources that kid has available to them to be very in touch with their emotions.
It makes me wonder if a parent knows she's watching & responding to Eugenia.
Yea I'd love to check up on her, if anyone has her socials that would be great.
She's been bullied all her life, she's allowed to get upset at people online saying mean things.
David's "especially her mom" is so incredibly telling... I wonder what he and Jaclyn saw before everything went down.
Maybe they should explain that instead of being vague af and providing no evidence whatsoever
me too.
@@elainekellogg6345 Deb is lawyered up and would sue them in a heartbeat I'm sure. If that doesn't tell you all you need to know, then I guess too bad
@@ennuiblue4295 sue them for what
@@elainekellogg6345 slander or defamation
It’s not up to anyone to ‘save’ Eugenia, no amount of attacking,sympathising, blaming her mum will stop Eugenia…..those voices from her ED are far louder than any of us can ever be, just thank your lucky stars it’s not you
As sad as that is, it’s true. I was anorexic in my early and mid twenties. I learned firsthand that the only person who could save me, was ME. No amount of begging and pleading from others convinced me. It had to come from within.
I’m 47 now. I still struggle with disordered eating, but nowhere near to my previous anorexic level.
Her appearance was always about approval from others. She knew no other way of being.
As someone who’s had an ED my family was worried about me before I noticed how bad it was, and if I was being blind about it before I couldn’t anymore. Can’t imagine having a heavier set mother, being deadly underweight and having her say to me and everyone that I’m fine when I’m on the brink of kickin it.. woulda messed me up so bad.
The way her lips are tightening against her teeth is terrifying.
And that "mother". HOW!?!? How can you watch one of your children go through this and openly say it's fine everything's okay. I would really like to know if the son is healthy, living at home still, and if he's the golden child or also going through some bizarre situation. I realize he's not public, but there are SO many worrying signs in this family. The whole thing is just so very disconnected from what you would expect to happen in such a widely known case, it's baffling to witness.
That’s always what did it for me, the smaller she get the bigger her teeth look cause her face is getting smaller and smaller 😰
The brother is obese and apparently autistic... He draws her naked and the dad makes weird comments about her looking like a child
Thank you for this video! Definitely some clips I have never seen here. As someone who was bullied in middle school, I can attest that those words repeat over and over again in your head. Eventually, the words become your reality manifesting themselves into eating disorders, insecurities and long-term trauma leading to a wide array of even more compounding issues (drug addiction, mental illness, etc)
I wish Eugenia nothing but the best. I really do think, in a perfect world, she doesn’t want to hurt a soul. I have been following her for a bit and watching a lot of videos on her situation, taking them with a grain of salt of course. No one is a flawless human being, especially with this exacerbated of a mental illness. It’s deep. It’s her entire life ~ her entire world. Sometimes when you don’t feel good at anything, you become obsessed with the one thing you feel you can control. In this case, Eugenia feels it is her body. When you add the social platforms on top of it for over a decade, it becomes a dance of performance based, monetized people pleasing. It also becomes a game with competing against yourself, where you were x amount of years ago, what other people look like and are saying about you, and a personal hell with the duality of being your entire identity ~ built on a technological facade that you feel obligated to maintain.
Nobody wants to have an eating disorder to this degree. Just like drugs, alcohol and trauma change your brain chemistry, a mental illness gone this far also will alter & twist your entire reality.
I send Eugenia so much love and I hope she sees the comments where people have empathy. Never lose sight of hope, sweet girl. ❤
I’m not a fan and I’m not a hater either. I’m just genuinely a spectator wishing her the best and praying she is here for her fans as long as she can be.