O sa-ti raspund in romana, merge mai repede 😜 -ca performanta dinamica, Toyota sta ceva mai bine (se si vede dupa cifre), fiind un pic mai puternica. -cutia de viteze de pe Toyota nu imi place (in general nu-mi plac cvt-urile, dar asta e preferinta personala) -ca manevrabilitate, un plus pt Mazda -la interior sunt cam pe acolo, spatioase, destul de calitative -ca instrumentar de bord si sistem infotainment, Mazda clar (desi nu te da pe spate), insa cele de pe Toyota parca sunt de anii 2010-2012. -sunetul in habitaclu e mai greu de suportat in Toyota, cand o calci mai sustinut ai permanent huruitul ala in cap. Per total, personal cred ca in final as alege Mazda.
Hi! I do not know what the combined torque is, that's why i did not mention it. What i know is that the combustion engine has a torque of around 220Nm and the electric motor (which is integrated in the transmission) has 200Nm, but you can't just add those 2 up to get a system output.
Engine is 220nm & 178hp (PS), electric motor is 120hp (ps) & 200nm. Toyota doesn’t quote the true figure as it depends on % of battery, oil temp of engine, altitude, odometer, fuel level, many different factors. The true figure would be around 380-400nm combined if the battery is at 75% or more
@@aidan1585 Correct figures. Now the combined true figure is still something open to debate... I did some extensive calculation and comparison but I can't find the paper anymore with my results. But from the top of my head it was something around 270 Nm combined torque, which is rather disappointing. The acceleration figure of 8.3 sec from 0 to 100 kph isn't all that good to begin with. Toyota could have gone ahead and released at least a torque interval. Remaining completely silent about it is imo not okay. 218 hp (EU spec) and 270 Nm could be compared to a mildly turbocharged 2.0 gas engine, that is tuned for constant toque rather than peak torque. Do you drive a Camry hybrid? Sorry for my late reply btw.
@@PFinkoloTL87 I do not, the true figure is north of 400nm, I have driven them and been in these cars over one hundred times. They drive as if they have the same torque as a BMW 520d mild hybrid. The Camry has that type of torque that feels like you are being hit by a train from behind. It is very powerful. This is the inferior Russian built Camry. Japanese built Camry hybrids do 0-60mph in 6.5 seconds and 0-100km/h (62mph) in 6.9.
@@aidan1585 Mine is "Made in Japan". Frame number also begins with a "J". I don't know with what letter the Russian built Camrys begin. I agree with you: Especially in "Sport" mode the car goes like a rocket, yes it feels like being hit by a train from behind. I never clocked acceleration on mine, but I can tell you, It sure feels quicker than 8.3 sec 0-100 km/h. I occasionally drove the Mercedes E 320 CDI with 470 Nm back in the days (rated at 8.3 sec 0-100), and there's one thing I am sure of: My Camry hybrid is a LOT quicker. May I ask for the source of your numbers (6.9 sec)?
@@john-p8n2dlol. Where in s city traffic your need 6 seconds 0-100kph? Camry hybrid is made for low fuel consumption, not performance. It goes as fast as your average 200hp 2.0 TDI VAG and it doesn't sounds like a tractor. Also, you don't need to worry about stupid DPF and SCR failing all the time.
Hey man, thanks for your comment! I appreciate your request, but unfortunately this is a really difficult car to get here (Europe/EU) because i think Honda stopped selling the Accord here for a number of years.
Ma îndoiesc ca 100-150 e mai inceata decat Arteon 2.0tdi de 200 cai/S60 B4/Formentor de 190 cai/S90 D5 )))) M-am intalnit cu ele in trafic cu un ES300h vechi de 12 ani și le știu cum îs la depașiri. Pun pariu ca vântul bătea din fața. Ar fi ideal la fiecare masina 100-150 sa fie in ambele direcții.
Nu batea nici un vant din nici o fata, astia sunt timpii. 8.7 - 8.8, foarte consistent. La nici un test nu fac doar o singura incercare. In cazul de fata nu cred ca am facut chiar 5 run-uri pt 100-150, cred ca au mai intrat si de la 1/4 mile vreo 2. gyazo.com/62c9c7cbeb149dcbf23cc52da18448fd Sper ca merge link-ul.
Plus ca m-am uitat acuma si vad ca sta (ceva) mai prost decat masinile mentionate de tine la cam toate testele, nu vad de ce n-ar fi asa si la 100-150 🙂
@@AcceleratingCars În primul rand, e normal sa fie mai inceata 0-100 pentru ca nu are launch control si trepte fixe scurte asa cum au celelalte mașini. In al doilea rand, 60-100 e mai inceata pentru ca sistemul ei de propulsie nu permite atingerea puterii maxime in intervalul ăsta, spre deosebire de astea cu trepte fixe care trec prin puterea maxima de 3 ori de la 0 la 100. Prin urmare ăștia doi indicatori nu au nicio legatura cu 100-150 unde ea iși atinge puterea maxima. Am circulat destul cu un lexus es300h din 2012 de 203cp. La demaraj 100+ rup Superb/passat b8 2.0tdi 190ps dsg )) si n-am ce face din E250 cdi w212 cu 204cp biturbo si ditai 500Nm. Ca sa stii daca batea sau nu vantul trebuia sa ai aparat de masura.
@@AcceleratingCars Vreau sa iți atrag atenția la un detaliu: diferența la 0-100 între Arteon si Camry e de 0.19 secunde și tot 0.19 secunde ramane diferența pe 1/4 milă. Cu alte cuvinte Arteon atinge 100km/h cu 0.19sec mai devreme și tot cu 0.19sec e mai in fața cand parcurge 402m. Arteonul are aproape 150km/h trap speed la 402m deci practic din momentul in care el are 100km/h si pana cand parcurge 402m (adica aproape 150km/h) el e in fața la Camry cu 0.19 secunde. Iar la tine pe masuratori diferența e ditamai 0.64 sec.
@@theDayOfAccount This car will not do 6.5 sec to 100 under any conditions, not even downhill. In my opinion your assumption is (way) off. I don't really get how exactly CVTs work (and this eCVT in particular) but it's not like i put it in 4th on purpose (or whatever that S 4 means). In the end it's an automatic and i just tried to put the car in it's sportiest setting.
@AcceleratingCars well mine does. And 4s means you placed it in a fixed 4th gear ratio. You handicapped it from the start. I can hear how the rpms are not going high enough in your video.
Yes, the European ones I think are tuned towards lower emissions. The 2023+ Camry in Europe matches JDM model performance as from 2022/2023 onwards they were built in Japan instead of Russia
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Hello can you test the Honda civic 1.5 turbo fc1 or fe1
How does it feel compared with Mazda 6?
O sa-ti raspund in romana, merge mai repede 😜
-ca performanta dinamica, Toyota sta ceva mai bine (se si vede dupa cifre), fiind un pic mai puternica.
-cutia de viteze de pe Toyota nu imi place (in general nu-mi plac cvt-urile, dar asta e preferinta personala)
-ca manevrabilitate, un plus pt Mazda
-la interior sunt cam pe acolo, spatioase, destul de calitative
-ca instrumentar de bord si sistem infotainment, Mazda clar (desi nu te da pe spate), insa cele de pe Toyota parca sunt de anii 2010-2012.
-sunetul in habitaclu e mai greu de suportat in Toyota, cand o calci mai sustinut ai permanent huruitul ala in cap.
Per total, personal cred ca in final as alege Mazda.
Mazda 6 10. Seconds zero to 100. Is slow shittt car
@@AcceleratingCars in english please
What's the combined torque of the Camry Hybrid?
Hi! I do not know what the combined torque is, that's why i did not mention it. What i know is that the combustion engine has a torque of around 220Nm and the electric motor (which is integrated in the transmission) has 200Nm, but you can't just add those 2 up to get a system output.
Engine is 220nm & 178hp (PS), electric motor is 120hp (ps) & 200nm. Toyota doesn’t quote the true figure as it depends on % of battery, oil temp of engine, altitude, odometer, fuel level, many different factors. The true figure would be around 380-400nm combined if the battery is at 75% or more
@@aidan1585 Correct figures. Now the combined true figure is still something open to debate... I did some extensive calculation and comparison but I can't find the paper anymore with my results. But from the top of my head it was something around 270 Nm combined torque, which is rather disappointing. The acceleration figure of 8.3 sec from 0 to 100 kph isn't all that good to begin with. Toyota could have gone ahead and released at least a torque interval. Remaining completely silent about it is imo not okay. 218 hp (EU spec) and 270 Nm could be compared to a mildly turbocharged 2.0 gas engine, that is tuned for constant toque rather than peak torque. Do you drive a Camry hybrid? Sorry for my late reply btw.
@@PFinkoloTL87 I do not, the true figure is north of 400nm, I have driven them and been in these cars over one hundred times. They drive as if they have the same torque as a BMW 520d mild hybrid. The Camry has that type of torque that feels like you are being hit by a train from behind. It is very powerful.
This is the inferior Russian built Camry. Japanese built Camry hybrids do 0-60mph in 6.5 seconds and 0-100km/h (62mph) in 6.9.
@@aidan1585 Mine is "Made in Japan". Frame number also begins with a "J". I don't know with what letter the Russian built Camrys begin. I agree with you: Especially in "Sport" mode the car goes like a rocket, yes it feels like being hit by a train from behind. I never clocked acceleration on mine, but I can tell you, It sure feels quicker than 8.3 sec 0-100 km/h. I occasionally drove the Mercedes E 320 CDI with 470 Nm back in the days (rated at 8.3 sec 0-100), and there's one thing I am sure of: My Camry hybrid is a LOT quicker.
May I ask for the source of your numbers (6.9 sec)?
Very decent speed actually.
7.8 seconds these days is slow not decent anything under 6 seconds is decent
@@john-p8n2dlol. Where in s city traffic your need 6 seconds 0-100kph? Camry hybrid is made for low fuel consumption, not performance. It goes as fast as your average 200hp 2.0 TDI VAG and it doesn't sounds like a tractor. Also, you don't need to worry about stupid DPF and SCR failing all the time.
@@vvevvevvvv wrong my hybrid 2024 takes of like a b8 at lights not just for economy I drive it like v8 and still get 1000 kms per tank 0f fuel
@@vvevvevvvv I got v8s too hybrid is just for me to save the planet and drive it like super car
@@john-p8n2d its not with driving a tesla that will save the planet 😂
My JDM camry hybrid did 0-100 in 6.7 sconeds and I got 15.1 seconds at quarter mile, your one is sure to have some issues
Next car Honda Accord 2022 2.0T and 2023 1.5T and 20 hybrid
Hey man, thanks for your comment! I appreciate your request, but unfortunately this is a really difficult car to get here (Europe/EU) because i think Honda stopped selling the Accord here for a number of years.
@@AcceleratingCars oh unfortunately thanks for ur replay
Ma îndoiesc ca 100-150 e mai inceata decat Arteon 2.0tdi de 200 cai/S60 B4/Formentor de 190 cai/S90 D5 )))) M-am intalnit cu ele in trafic cu un ES300h vechi de 12 ani și le știu cum îs la depașiri.
Pun pariu ca vântul bătea din fața.
Ar fi ideal la fiecare masina 100-150 sa fie in ambele direcții.
Nu batea nici un vant din nici o fata, astia sunt timpii. 8.7 - 8.8, foarte consistent. La nici un test nu fac doar o singura incercare. In cazul de fata nu cred ca am facut chiar 5 run-uri pt 100-150, cred ca au mai intrat si de la 1/4 mile vreo 2. gyazo.com/62c9c7cbeb149dcbf23cc52da18448fd
Sper ca merge link-ul.
Plus ca m-am uitat acuma si vad ca sta (ceva) mai prost decat masinile mentionate de tine la cam toate testele, nu vad de ce n-ar fi asa si la 100-150 🙂
@@AcceleratingCars
În primul rand, e normal sa fie mai inceata 0-100 pentru ca nu are launch control si trepte fixe scurte asa cum au celelalte mașini.
In al doilea rand, 60-100 e mai inceata pentru ca sistemul ei de propulsie nu permite atingerea puterii maxime in intervalul ăsta, spre deosebire de astea cu trepte fixe care trec prin puterea maxima de 3 ori de la 0 la 100.
Prin urmare ăștia doi indicatori nu au nicio legatura cu 100-150 unde ea iși atinge puterea maxima.
Am circulat destul cu un lexus es300h din 2012 de 203cp. La demaraj 100+ rup Superb/passat b8 2.0tdi 190ps dsg )) si n-am ce face din E250 cdi w212 cu 204cp biturbo si ditai 500Nm.
Ca sa stii daca batea sau nu vantul trebuia sa ai aparat de masura.
@@AcceleratingCars Vreau sa iți atrag atenția la un detaliu: diferența la 0-100 între Arteon si Camry e de 0.19 secunde și tot 0.19 secunde ramane diferența pe 1/4 milă. Cu alte cuvinte Arteon atinge 100km/h cu 0.19sec mai devreme și tot cu 0.19sec e mai in fața cand parcurge 402m. Arteonul are aproape 150km/h trap speed la 402m deci practic din momentul in care el are 100km/h si pana cand parcurge 402m (adica aproape 150km/h) el e in fața la Camry cu 0.19 secunde. Iar la tine pe masuratori diferența e ditamai 0.64 sec.
Cam rău stă cu acuratețea vitezometrului.
Asa e. Cu siguranta in top 3 indicatoare aiurea, din ce am testat eu.
Dude you are starting in s4. That's why is so slow. It is much faster than that. Just keep it in D and sport mode
How much faster are we talkin' ?
@@AcceleratingCarsAt least 1.5 seconds. I have a hybrid SE. 7 seconds 0 to 100 or slightly better. Give it a try again.
@@theDayOfAccount This car will not do 6.5 sec to 100 under any conditions, not even downhill. In my opinion your assumption is (way) off. I don't really get how exactly CVTs work (and this eCVT in particular) but it's not like i put it in 4th on purpose (or whatever that S 4 means). In the end it's an automatic and i just tried to put the car in it's sportiest setting.
@@theDayOfAccount These 7 seconds maybe on the speedometer 100 = 93,6 :) No chance of achieving such real results.
@AcceleratingCars well mine does. And 4s means you placed it in a fixed 4th gear ratio. You handicapped it from the start. I can hear how the rpms are not going high enough in your video.
My JDM camry hybrid did 0-100 in 6.7 sconeds and I got 15.1 seconds at quarter mile, your one is sure to have some issues
Yes, the European ones I think are tuned towards lower emissions. The 2023+ Camry in Europe matches JDM model performance as from 2022/2023 onwards they were built in Japan instead of Russia