Smash Ultimate Tournament - ZD (Fox, Falco) Vs. Mogg [L] (Pac-Man) - The Grind 61 Grand Finals
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Yup, that's how Pac-Man works.
Is Pac Man mafia?
I mean anyone who takes it to game 10 would be this long
Beat me to it.
Bracket reset
He doesn't really now how to use pacman, he relies way too much the fire hydrant and bell way to much when killing the opponent where it makes it predictable. Im a pacman main myself since ssb4 in which when mogg had a hard time to kill, he kept using the same set-up in which is not all good, during that time there was about 5 kill options to use but he didn't .
"Pacman is low tier"
Mogg: hold my hydrant
We've heard that story in Smash 4, too. I'm not at all surprised that someone figured Pacman out in this game.
Sinji been winning tournaments too and he’s ranked 25 at genesis 6 don’t sleep!
mogg: hold this L
hold my hydrant XD
Clap
It's ridiculous how good Mogg is whilst having so many obvious places to improve.
Yeah, especially missing those juicy smash attacks on bell stuns.
tier list updated.
Two Pac-mains winning 2 tournaments. Pac-mains rise up
I guess it's time for me to pick him up again
Pacmain is code for loli right?
@@neonpixel27 not playing a character you enjoy because of tier lists... lol
Yes
It looks painfully annoying fighting a Pac-Man
Mogg played great but you can tell he has a lot to learn. Give him a couple of years and he might be a top player. Just got to learn how to capitalize on situations. He made a lot of mistakes in this set.
Salty much?
To use Pac-Man, the player could have a 200 IQ to win a tournament.
love the commentary. laughter goes so well with smash gameplay
Sees 50 MINS...
Fox V Pac
Traps galore zoning vs rush down reflector
Gets Excited 🤩
Commentators are the best part lmao they keeping me laughing for 50 mins, very aware and know the match up
do u know who they are?
@@christianblack5876 No clue
pac-man player with the big brain plays, good lord
Your profile picture is cute.
@@Pur3AGL thanks! squishy from kirby is a very good enemy
Mogg is fun to watch
Down B
Look at me
charges Neutral B behind hydrant
I am the captain
Mogg will be a complete genius for one second then jab after landing the next second
*after landing a bell
@@jacobstalls1159 you can actually edit your comments after you post them if you just wanna fix the original
Could be just for conditioning.
Ay, in Pac-man's world, no one is perfect.
Pac is an east coast character. This makes sense
Mogg just became my favorite smash player period. Pac-Man and Richter are fuckingawesome
It’s videos like these that get me beat up lol, I try to act like the pac man and I had no practice
There's so many tournament vids out right now, I only clicked this one because it was a Grand Finals with Pac-Man. Was not disappointed. Incredibly impressed by the close game.
Commentary on point.
Moggs does crazy combos and set-ups one minute, then whiffs simple smash attacks the next.
43:36 Wuuuuuut...using the fire hydrant to blast his lemon. Now that's a technique...and also a really weird sentence. Thanks Smash.
Its a bell, not a lemon
so many ads man dang
Theyre scumbags tbh
@@j45002 plz explainXD
META KNIGHT OUTDATED
BAYO OVERRATED
OUR TIERS MUST BE UPDATED
*PACMAN ACTIVATED*
PACTIVATED
Amazing set and the commentary was hilarious.
Where my Pac mains at?
I'm late to this, but yo 👀
DIABLONAMEK • Here!
Reprting for duty
Sup
Hi
An awesome Pac-Man player is super entertaining to watch! Congrats dude!
That key throw was so unexpected and worked perfectly lmao
Super impressive plays from mogg
Holy shit... that’s gotta be the best Pac-Man in the world right now.
No, Sinji is
Both are heavily outclassed by Tea
DA Sinji would like to know your location
What are you basing this on? ... ZD was top 8 at Glitch 6... He eliminated Salem, who is a former Evo champion... Has Sinji or Tea takin down anyone on that level?
Tea has wins on Oisiitofu, Aki, Yoshidora and Shogun. These together are definitely better than Mogg's results or Sinji.
Started smoking at the beginning of this. My joint ended and i never noticed.
Had to roll another commentator had me 💀
@@kevinswift8823 i almost cant believe that comment was a year ago 😓
Mogg didn't throw any apples! lol, apples are OP
can you shine reflect pac-man hydrant when you are under him and he throws it down? didn't see it happen at all, and the threat of the hydrant stopped zd from ever trying to continue air juggles, so I gotta think that you can't shine it.
I think you can reflect it but it won't send it back up so there's not much point or pay out for doing it.
IDK ... but I do know that you can Up Smash it and that will send it back up... definitely seen that happen b4.
Reflector just blocks the hit when it's falling but some characters like Bowser can actually upsmash or even upair it before it hits the ground and combo into it. You can only reflect the hydrant after it's launched, there's a few moves reflectors just block in this game.
Fox and Falco have relatively low damage per hit so they really struggle to launch the hydrant, Pac-Man has a few quick moves with high damage so he can break it easily himself.
It’ll reflect and it can hit him but only if you do it right under him, it’ll jump a little then keep falling like normal so if it’s already fallen any Pacman will already be out of the way
It will send it back up a little bit so he'd have to shine it upon release and shine is still a pretty big commitment in this game.
Pacman is so fun to watch. Top tier commentary too
Good game! 💯 Grats Mogg
Does this Mogg fellow have a twitter???
16:10 Did he just walk up slowly and down smash?
i Love pac man
People don’t see the forethought that goes into 1 move.
Jump
Drop hydrant
Nair on the way down
Walk off hydrant
Up air hydrant
That was 4 steps for 1 more all of which have to be done accurately and timed.
Pac man’s biggest downfall is when you try to shield nair and it makes you grab.
After playing with Pac-Man you feel all other characters are so one dimensional
Until you play olimar 💀
What a damn set.
Damn, Mogg is beasty as pacman, love watching him play. I really like his Ricther as well.
Also......on a different note I have a question and well couldn't really find any info around the net, but I was wondering if anyone can tell me who is better out of a 1111 Mii gunner or Robin? Are they relatively even, or would say one greatly out classes the other?
Tyler Wilson Robin is way better if you know him/ her very well, but you could probably get more done with gunner if you don’t know either of them
Ooh, Pacman is almost as fun to see played as Game & Watch.
What an insane set. So fucking close down to the last game, last stock. GG moGG
That smile at 24:38 😏 it was at this point mogg said in his head “I got this”
Wait why did the score end up resetting?
I heard that tiptoeing in my Jordan’s reference
I really want to main pac man but man the patience tho...
The commentary is hilarious !
Everyone shat on pacman for being trash....
same thing happened in smash 4
Not You He was talking about smash 4
he really wanted to finish him with his hydrant...
6:24 WTF Mogg is a crazy man, using the hydrant to push the bell, I've never seen that
It's actually a Pac-Man tech referred to as "Fruit Gushing"
Does Mogg invoke the spirit of DJ Khaled when he uses keys 😂😂😂
6:23 tell me yall saw that
what
HOOOOLY SHIT THAT WAS EPIC!
Feel the fox could have made better use of blaster and reflector
Wait wait wait! If you pick the bell up after throwing it..you can charge it straight into a KEY?! This is news to me
yeah, if you hold down B instead of tapping it.
is that Kevin from the office?
I was getting ready to comment that
Pacman putting in work
They should put dante and nero in these games
I love both players and I wish the best for them. However I may be a little biased towards my boy Mogg...😯
1:32 Anyone else catch Pac-Man transform a melon into a Galaga?
Repocket boi
Somebody go back in time to that day and tell Demise that he can abuse of his reflector to outplay pacman...
Pac is nasty up close. Its not like anyone with a reflector automatically beats Pac.
@@vick7868 forreal. If you watch Tea, who is essentially the pacman God, he had a match against hero who was getting bounce every 20 seconds and he STILL wrecked shop lmao.
41:24 and 43:52 lmao, these commentators
Why does he throw the Galaga off stage after every stock?
It’s a trap set up the way he enters back onto the stage is punishing if the person falls for it
Sometimes I’ll drop the hydrant by the edge and if they hit it I’ll enter back on with a kick and hit it and it hits them
Lmao this commentary is incredible.
Why does mogg throw his item off stage sometimes and regrabs before using it? Doesn’t that just take away his A options?
Idk if you know this by now but recaught Fruits take less frames to throw.
@@vick7868 yeah but it limits options wouldn’t you think?
@@TO-oz3mj it does, so there's that slight drawback. But Pac can really force you to approach and limit your options as well, and Fruit in hand really makes him threatening to close in on.
@@vick7868 true, guess it’s probably as effective close up anyway
My Boi Pac Man sticking it Fox! XD hahah
I feel like pac man is alot better than people think I mean tea beat tweek as a pac main. Shows that pac man is viable at that level of top players. I also feel like alot of people aren't familiar with the matchup either.
Nothing to see here guys, Pac still mid-high tier. Get a sword and body him
Not a bird, a sword
Dapix Money match me then
Dapix You’re right about mid-high tier but swords ain’t really the Pacman counter
I mean a reflector is just about the best thing against a projectile zoner
How many clouds lucinas and ikes do you think mogg played to get to gf lol
Welp, he's arguably top tier a year from this comment. Amazing how stuff changes.
Even though he is low tire, he is even worse in smash 4. Grab that doesn't work half the time even though someone is in its range, and fruit that Flys faster than pac can run to pick it up.
He ain't low tier in Ultimate bro. Amazing to see how much has changed between now and a year ago.
I love watching ZD but he really needs a hair cut.
RETURN THE SLAB
So Pac-Man got the keys... To victory
You think if he sat under the hydrant call and used down B it would reflect? Genuinly asking
No, it just pushes it to the side a little
I hate when you want to something but the water push you 😂 especially when you finally hit someone with a banana of diddy but thanks to the water cant smash attack
Bruh im going to trigger people but pac man to me is god tier
God tier of the big brained😎
Pac-Man is super fun to use. Love my low tiers.
This commentary tho😂
I watch in 0.75 speed. I’m new to the game so can be too fast otherwise. This game was too long though
ZD must be tired, he was missing a lot of counter opportunities, deflect and pistol was lacking
How the hell do you even play pac man lmao. Same as mega man and duck hunt.
zd played horribly
Is it a coincidence that the top Pac-Man players are black guys? If you've ever had to wash clothes in a laundromat growing up you'd know the answer is no. No, it isn't.
The best one is Japanese tho
Commentators aren't as funny as they think they are
ZD played good. Looking for openings and played great. Mog just kept on doing that shit no one likes. Hide then attack.
Mogg played Pac-Man the way he was meant to be played. Campy, hit and run. Some people enjoy watching and playing against that.
That’s how pac-man is played...
If it's work on pro players,don't stop doing it.
Pac man does have decent close combat but pac man has a hard time landing since all his move leaves gaps which what makes him wide open, hiding then attacking is effective way to set up and commit to his whole moveset so whether people think it's annoying way to fight no one wouldn't virtually be able to use him at a high level
Pac man is boring to watch
Dark Nova said no one ever
Dunnzo well I just did
MAR'TE jenkins very scientific 👏🏽
MAR'TE jenkins it was a very scientific conclusion you made. Ya know, im referring to when you prescribed insanity based on an opinion surrounding video games.