Thunder Smash 3 SSBU - MVG Salem (Hero) VS Tea (Pac-Man) Smash Ultimate Winners Semis

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  • @weewer3369
    @weewer3369 5 ปีที่แล้ว +285

    I can't believe people are not talking about the insane 91% combo

    • @TapDat52K
      @TapDat52K 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Dude. Teas Ladder Combo and reading Salems DI. What a bad ass. This was comment i was looking for.

    • @Dr.Stein_
      @Dr.Stein_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      When was this?

    • @malachistone88
      @malachistone88 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Combo at 16:37! So sick 🤘

    • @unny8135
      @unny8135 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Starts at 16:30

    • @jjef8706
      @jjef8706 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      16:35

  • @ebonybutdontlookatthechann879
    @ebonybutdontlookatthechann879 5 ปีที่แล้ว +212

    "This is pretty much the only character with a mana system."
    *cries in Nosferatu*

    • @TyzyGhostlinger
      @TyzyGhostlinger 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      we're never getting a buff. Sakurai hates us.

    • @ebonybutdontlookatthechann879
      @ebonybutdontlookatthechann879 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I think Robin's pretty good actually.

    • @TyzyGhostlinger
      @TyzyGhostlinger 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@ebonybutdontlookatthechann879 (s)he is but they also have completely unnecessary drawbacks that they shouldn't have to begin with (like Instantly dying when using Nosferatu offstage; or that using the last tick of Elwind in the air kills you). Not to mention the atrocious running-speed. (Or the fact that Arcfire can get extinguished by absolutely anything)

    • @ebonybutdontlookatthechann879
      @ebonybutdontlookatthechann879 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      But let me explain to you an *epic gamer moment* of mine.
      So, I'm playing Robin online, I'm getting bodied by a Wii Fit. Then I rack up some damage so we're about even. The Wii Fit then resorts to ledge side b-ing. Me, being the *epic gamer* I am, charge up Neutral Special and time it ever so perfectly that it hits and kills. So, they have their perks.

    • @AmarisLazuli
      @AmarisLazuli 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ebonybutdontlookatthechann879 epic

  • @mixman4science95
    @mixman4science95 5 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    16:32 you are welcome

    • @TapDat52K
      @TapDat52K 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      This insane ladder combo. A gift from the Witch Slayer himself. Lets go Tea!!!

  • @YounesLayachi
    @YounesLayachi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +172

    Pacman be like "no projectiles? No problem !"

    • @fistpump64
      @fistpump64 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      *megaman be sad*

    • @skaionex
      @skaionex 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@fistpump64 olimar be dead

    • @kribyy7784
      @kribyy7784 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@skaionex especially after the nerfs

  • @TheSquirrelbeast
    @TheSquirrelbeast 5 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Tea's lowkey 3000 iq play at 8:20 . He was timing the bounce effect, waiting for it to wear off. Yeah he missed, but by less than a second. It was a ballsy gamble that required setup and preparation. The commentators saying it was 'autopilot' is not doing Tea justice.

    • @Lividicuss
      @Lividicuss 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Truth. Tea is never on autopilot

    • @Lividicuss
      @Lividicuss 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@KotaWebb its okay that you couldn't keep up. Try again next time.

    • @Lividicuss
      @Lividicuss 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@KotaWebb what? All 3000 IQ plays are reads. If it works every time then it's not an high IQ play. That's just free. Like I'm sure you thought that sounded smart but it was a hella high IQ play that didnt work out. IQ plays aren't defined by success.

    • @enricocaricatuscuroso763
      @enricocaricatuscuroso763 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      dakota webb lol, people worship asian players for no apparent reason. Killing yourself isn’t a smart play even if it had a chance to hit. It was a stupid pointless gamble and execution error. Simple as that

    • @jerrisatyourwindow
      @jerrisatyourwindow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Enrico Caricatuscuroso woah there bud, keep your racist comments and opinions to ye self

  • @JB_CY
    @JB_CY 5 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    Tea is so cool! I hope he continues to do well

  • @GosuSalt
    @GosuSalt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +210

    So weird Salem doesn't use Hero's neutral B, it's such a good move and even if he doesn't use the charge the fear factor involved in having it is such a great tool. That said, Tea was awesome.

    • @biffyguybiffy6292
      @biffyguybiffy6292 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      He would rather get buffs from menu than have a slow moving charge required projectile.

    • @the_bookworm8281
      @the_bookworm8281 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      The issue with neutral B is that the fully charged version costs so much MP, and it takes quite a bit of time to reach full charge for how bad Hero gets beaten in disadvantage. It is better to fish for a buff in Hero's menu most of the time than to fully charge the move, which is why Salem mainly uses uncharged neutral B at the opponent.
      Also, Zapple is usually a better option.

    • @seth7726
      @seth7726 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      But at least he should Frizzle from time to time. It's prety cheap and does around 18-22% with a good set knockback and also pretty fast.

    • @biffyguybiffy6292
      @biffyguybiffy6292 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Seth, yeah. It’s also tied to a menu with rng.

    • @Ace10673
      @Ace10673 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      GosuSalt I prefer not use that move, it's too strong.

  • @getcosbyd4207
    @getcosbyd4207 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Holy shit, this is a hype set. Shout outs to all pac man mains, to all 6 of you

  • @YounesLayachi
    @YounesLayachi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    16:32
    Tea's opponent : 0%
    Tea : imma end this man's whole career (if he landed that f smash)

    • @andreayton1993
      @andreayton1993 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Younes Layachi yea that was clean lol

    • @northdakotagamer
      @northdakotagamer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He was really trying to bust out the Pac-Man 0 to death. What a baller

  • @rinktheredlink9317
    @rinktheredlink9317 5 ปีที่แล้ว +268

    "Salem must die"
    -Fatality 2019

    • @wunder9613
      @wunder9613 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Rink the red Link really when? Lol

    • @rinktheredlink9317
      @rinktheredlink9317 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@wunder9613 in one of his recent videos when he was talking about his bracket lol.

    • @TapDat52K
      @TapDat52K 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He was joking. For a better bracket.

    • @rinktheredlink9317
      @rinktheredlink9317 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TapDat52K and I was simply trying to make a little joke, I did not expect this comment to be the highest liked one here lol

    • @TapDat52K
      @TapDat52K 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know. I liked your comment. I was explaining to the guy above you where it came from xD

  • @asianshack392
    @asianshack392 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Salem didn’t actually break out of the grab. When the water hits mid pummel, it pushes the enemy out of the grab so that’s what happened.

    • @babo3324
      @babo3324 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, weird how he didn't catch that since it was stated before

    • @dj_senf6741
      @dj_senf6741 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      So that's the reason Tea usually doesn't pummel if he wants to reposition himself through the water

  • @ashketchup7354
    @ashketchup7354 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Yes, when you're close to the blast zone it increases the chance of Zoom appearing in the Menu.

  • @PizzaguyJeff
    @PizzaguyJeff 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Love the stage variety in this set.

  • @michaelkomolafe4879
    @michaelkomolafe4879 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I was looking for Salem the first 3 seconds and did see this man... Camouflage level 💯

  • @TapDat52K
    @TapDat52K 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    16:30 ... Tea Spills the 91% Ladder Combo onto Salem. Drowning all those years of research in brown liquid gold.

  • @jeffreysherman8224
    @jeffreysherman8224 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    5:07 Cut to that clip of Billy Mays. "Kah-BOOM!!! And the stock is gone!" 😂😂😂

  • @harrisonsmith6914
    @harrisonsmith6914 5 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    Let’s go Tea! Winning despite the language barrier 😎

    • @gamrage
      @gamrage 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Agreed. He would have done way better if he "could" read the menu though.

    • @chillybradley3095
      @chillybradley3095 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Goes to show that if you're skilled enough you can be beat hero

    • @TheBigSad8247
      @TheBigSad8247 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@chillybradley3095 more like, hero is not as problematic as people claim him to be.

    • @ohno4435
      @ohno4435 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@TheBigSad8247 except when tea dies to a kaboom that he shouldn't have been hit by but y'know

    • @Liam-cq8bg
      @Liam-cq8bg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      oh no? although you would think that people who play this game competitively would take the time to learn to read hero’s menu. it’s not hard. few of my foreign friends who play casually got it down within a week or so.

  • @teaguevox8160
    @teaguevox8160 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Yo that 91% ladder though, Tea's got some crazy Pac logic on his side. I love how he doesn't really rely entirely on the projectiles either. Every time bounce went up he straight dropped his projectile and threw hands, it was beautiful. Way to go, Tea! You did great!
    Go home and be a researcher, Salem.

  • @Tohlemiach
    @Tohlemiach 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Damn. If only Abadango had stuck to his roots he could be getting all the hype that Tea is getting right now. Should’ve never given up Pac Man

  • @kgigs_
    @kgigs_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have yet to hear the casters talk abt what's happening in game

    • @angelr-t7608
      @angelr-t7608 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "Nice back air " Is lame commentary ngl

  • @hydropump8731
    @hydropump8731 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I just want sakurai to add symbols to down B. That’s literally all I want

  • @ericdragoification
    @ericdragoification 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Salem barely charges his neutral b or use magic burst in this set. I felt like if he utilized all of hero’s kit he would’ve been in a better position.

    • @gamrage
      @gamrage 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yeah, since his opponent was a zoner, he had plenty of chances to use his Neutral-B. Unfortunately, he only focused most of his time reading that stupid menu. Also, I feel like Magic Burst is worse against zoners, especially because Pacman can stall with Up-B when recovering to the ledge.

    • @trash_dmleo956
      @trash_dmleo956 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Magic burst is already risky because of mama use and most can throw a projectile out and cancel it, combine that with the fact it has a slow start up and low shield damage.... it is very not worth often times in the nuetral to use magic burst in pacmans scenarios

    • @biffyguybiffy6292
      @biffyguybiffy6292 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Magic burst uses all mana. Then he can’t use bounce which is what he wants in this matchup.

    • @virtualgamer673
      @virtualgamer673 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Magic burst wouldn’t be helpful since pac’s side b has near infinite super armor like mac’s smash attacks so it wouldn’t be helpful and neutral b is pretty easy to dodge and as shown pac man goes so much faster the hero it would be hard to find an opening for that move when you have a better chance getting kaboom which is much better

    • @Liam-cq8bg
      @Liam-cq8bg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      gamrage kafrizz is a much better option than his neutral b.

  • @Vulpentine
    @Vulpentine 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Came for hero, stayed for pacman

  • @DrGandW
    @DrGandW 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    11:26 holy crap Tea got hit by the Kazap pillar all the way up there? That move is so good in this MU

  • @andresugalde916
    @andresugalde916 5 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Moar liek:
    Tears of Research

    • @MAlru005
      @MAlru005 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pablo Ugalde he played well though, i’ll give him that

    • @catandgrouper4760
      @catandgrouper4760 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Pablo Ugalde im so glad he lost

    • @charlesmitchell7864
      @charlesmitchell7864 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Somebody clip this comment

    • @Oh-Ben
      @Oh-Ben 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MAlru005 Salem only plays as good as his character.

  • @rickwilson3703
    @rickwilson3703 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    All 3 commentators are the same person

    • @sirrealism7300
      @sirrealism7300 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Holy fuck i looked up at the screen the exact moment i read that and saw them. Im laughing so hard right now

  • @TheCodingGamer
    @TheCodingGamer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I'm not gonna defend what Salem did here, but I wanna make sure the other side of the argument is heard too: Tea, Raito and other Japanese players knew well ahead of time and consented to entering an English language tournament. If it was going to be a problem they should have talked to the TOs or simply not attended. If this situation happened in reverse with Salem at a Japanese tournament i would 100% put the blame on him for entering something he can't read.
    Until either Nintendo or the Smash community find a fix to this problem it's also up to the players to accept responsibility and either learn to read the language their playing against, advocate Hero be banned, etc. This community is a group effort and we all gotta do our part to fix this problem.

    • @Tiga_B
      @Tiga_B 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I don't remember who suggested it but they said the menu should come with icons that represents the move.

    • @pesky2119
      @pesky2119 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's

    • @pesky2119
      @pesky2119 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A

    • @pesky2119
      @pesky2119 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Projectile

    • @pesky2119
      @pesky2119 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Heavy

  • @samypoirier1019
    @samypoirier1019 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Dude tea is so good

  • @rirayejohnson8079
    @rirayejohnson8079 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Imo salem needs to stop using the menu in neutral and focus more on ledge trapping. Using the buffs in neutral seems safe tho

    • @datderpderping501
      @datderpderping501 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because he is playing against Japan and assumes they can’t read his menu.

    • @biffyguybiffy6292
      @biffyguybiffy6292 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      DatDerp Derping, false. He’s trying to pull bounce.

    • @claymore10100
      @claymore10100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Or he just needs to drop hero and stop going for the cheese.

    • @quotastrider801
      @quotastrider801 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@claymore10100 and sometimes relying on the rng too :/ he used bayo in 4 so he has no shame in going for hero shenanigans

  • @wtchef1196
    @wtchef1196 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don’t think I’ve ever beaten a pac man, except for when I unlocked him.

  • @dawnevergarden3275
    @dawnevergarden3275 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Years of research and yet none on Pac Man.

  • @AlexanderGarcia-bc2yp
    @AlexanderGarcia-bc2yp 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Pacman is so cool in this game!

  • @ThatBeingCed
    @ThatBeingCed 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    AcceleraTLE it's AcceleraTLE

  • @r0tc3h28
    @r0tc3h28 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I'd like to see salem playing the game in Japanese

    • @biffyguybiffy6292
      @biffyguybiffy6292 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      He’d probably do just fine. He’s probably study a little Japanese before hand and he’d probably place pretty well.

    • @scrapkingkeita3825
      @scrapkingkeita3825 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It takes like 15 minutes to figure out what spells to fish for, and considering Salem doesn't ever go for Magic Burst, he won't ever misread マダンテ (Magic Burst) as メガンテ (Kamikaze)
      tbh, Japanese or French are probably the best languages for Hero

    • @gamrage
      @gamrage 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@scrapkingkeita3825 I dunno dude. The Japanese characters are hard for me to distinguish at first glance.

    • @dende_ult714
      @dende_ult714 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@biffyguybiffy6292 thank you!! someone who understands what a competitor is

    • @saisan1124
      @saisan1124 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@biffyguybiffy6292 But he will have a slower reaction time to it tho

  • @TyzyGhostlinger
    @TyzyGhostlinger 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Everytime Salem gets bodied, the world is a little more of a happy place.

  • @Bacchus325
    @Bacchus325 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Tea is the most entertaining Smash player to ever live don't @ me

  • @StephenSiu
    @StephenSiu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I kinda think it would be super cool one day if Hero wins a major!

    • @LetsPlaySagaraStyle
      @LetsPlaySagaraStyle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I hope one day...but not Salem's Hero

    • @MAlru005
      @MAlru005 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      LetsPlaySagaraStyle why?

    • @LetsPlaySagaraStyle
      @LetsPlaySagaraStyle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MAlru005 dunno...I just dislike him...

  • @malachistone88
    @malachistone88 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    ⭐Let's go TeaPacMan!!!!⭐

  • @johnyb860
    @johnyb860 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    the way this dude says mana...........why

    • @XanhornHellsbane
      @XanhornHellsbane 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      that's how it's said

    • @johnyb860
      @johnyb860 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@XanhornHellsbane I stand corrected i've been pronouncing mana like manna for forever everything is a lie

    • @XanhornHellsbane
      @XanhornHellsbane 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@johnyb860 it happens lmao

    • @cheesewheel
      @cheesewheel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tomato tomato

  • @samborton6613
    @samborton6613 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Roses are red, violets are blue, Salem lost yet again and I genuinely couldn't be happier.

  • @Wizard_Blake
    @Wizard_Blake 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tea is so fun to watch! Definitely my favorite Japanese Player!

  • @Aflay1
    @Aflay1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hero vs Pac-Man.
    Now this, I gotta see!

  • @MultiMadgeek
    @MultiMadgeek 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Tea pacman!

  • @Dizastermaster.
    @Dizastermaster. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    He didnt get killed by the dash attack he got killed by the hydrant

  • @georgie9303
    @georgie9303 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Isn’t this the guy that got clapped by Leffen?

    • @zanioxl3663
      @zanioxl3663 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah yes. A leffen fanboy. Y'all love to think that he won just because he got more likes on twitter

  • @leonardocruz5776
    @leonardocruz5776 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Tea= Smash genius

  • @freddo9800
    @freddo9800 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Salem has so many characters, did he have to play the one with the language barrier?

    • @solstice871
      @solstice871 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s his plan, to use the language barrier to his advantage. I’m firmly for banning Hero partly because of this exploitation of language barriers. I don’t blame Salem for it tho, if he has a way to give him an advantage he has a right to take it

  • @christhegreat696
    @christhegreat696 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That’s right Tea, put Salem in his place

  • @peacockkae
    @peacockkae 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This game is just fucking fantastic

  • @ejstephens7918
    @ejstephens7918 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Salem should have brought out the Zelda. Mystearica got a pretty convincing win on tea using her. Might have been worth a shot.

    • @Carlisho
      @Carlisho 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agree, PacMan is rough for Hero cause PacMac as a zoner character he has extremely good aerials which conpletely destroys Hero. PacMan doesnt have a reflector, Phantom is the best move to deal with zoners without a reflector.

    • @angelr-t7608
      @angelr-t7608 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Salems zelda is not on mysts level lol

    • @ejstephens7918
      @ejstephens7918 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@angelr-t7608 yeah definitely not, but I think it's worth a shot

  • @itsyaboychipsahoy.7989
    @itsyaboychipsahoy.7989 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Tea vs Research.

  • @dano21l9
    @dano21l9 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Hero...

  • @ashketchup7354
    @ashketchup7354 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know some people don't like Salem because of his shitty Twitter comments. And more people are shitting on him today because he's playing Hero against Japanese players. Personally I don't see the issue. We knew shortly after Hero was released this would be an interesting counterplay. Also Salem mains Hero along with Snake. Beyond that, he's being respectful. He shakes Tea's hand after losing and even gives a little bow, which commonly in Japan shows respect to your opponent.

  • @freddiesimmons1394
    @freddiesimmons1394 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The announcers missed that godlike stock 1 on game 3
    Tea: drops 91%
    Are you not entertained?

  • @Nipponing
    @Nipponing 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Salem isn't using Hero that well...

    • @MAlru005
      @MAlru005 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Swedish Otaku what? His hero is godlike, i don’t care if people hate him his hero is amazing

    • @tnromani9373
      @tnromani9373 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MAlru005 he's too focused on the menu. If he used hero's entire kit he would've probably had the high ground

  • @conker466
    @conker466 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They allowing hero here? I thought he was broken.

    • @Jo__Ko
      @Jo__Ko 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      If broken means mid tier then ya, he's pretty broken.

    • @gamrage
      @gamrage 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      He was never broken. He was just not a competitive friendly character. Also people wanted him banned because of the language issues involving his menu. He got his ass beat by a Japanese player regardless of having that advantage though.

    • @saotomebuster
      @saotomebuster 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      gamrage not much of an advantage given tea just out right not giving him a chance to command menu and exploiting hero’s terrible frame data with rush down. plus tea learned the English for the words already.

  • @colebutler4442
    @colebutler4442 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "mahna"😂😂

  • @Geneolgia
    @Geneolgia 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn't Salem say he was gonna main ZSS? I wonder if he would have done better, but anyway this is Tea's Pacman probably the best Pacman.

  • @andreayton1993
    @andreayton1993 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yea hero’s side b and some of the spells come out TOO fast with little to no risk

    • @theexaltedlt8222
      @theexaltedlt8222 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But hero gets shutdown by aggression so it balances out

    • @trash_dmleo956
      @trash_dmleo956 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Literally hero just is campy... he struggles to land and rushdown, a great example would be goblin versus silvio I think it was... Roy absolutely ate hero

  • @SinnohX
    @SinnohX 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fully optimized, Hero would be getting Kaboom and Magic Blast every time he opened the menu. Nobody has found out how to overhaul the RNG yet, but I suppose SOME genius out there will find out...

  • @Flare8295
    @Flare8295 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hero's offstage is not bad

  • @truthsinger7413
    @truthsinger7413 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ngl Salem’s hero is lame. He just runs to ledge, uses down b or just keeps using side b in neutral. Where’s the neutral b or down throw to up air?

    • @quotastrider801
      @quotastrider801 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm assuming you're a hero player, I think Salem thinks that hero's down B options are best in this matchup. He might have been playing optimally but it felt weird as to watch right?

    • @truthsinger7413
      @truthsinger7413 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Visor Kid it did feel weird to watch. But all the matches uploaded in this tournament have Salem fighting zoners so I guess I think it’s just when he’s fighting zoners and maybe he’s different against rush down characters

    • @participantx
      @participantx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      salem wants to be an asshole. thats why hes going for rng lol.

    • @explosivfurret3007
      @explosivfurret3007 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      If i understood this right you can manipulate your rng? If that is true it should be not legal i think its too powerfull then.

    • @bigtoblerone8446
      @bigtoblerone8446 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh yeah i forgot... How high did you place on this tourney again?
      I'm willing to bet Salem can body you in this game with his Link or just about any other character. He's literally the only player right now making serious results Hero, so i don't understand where this criticism is coming from...

  • @caoinhnamkhanh2795
    @caoinhnamkhanh2795 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omfg. Every stock Olimar lost, i replayed the video for at least 10 times.

  • @Thragdain
    @Thragdain 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love Tea, his combo game and setups are insane!

  • @Felphex
    @Felphex 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tea is godlike
    Enough said

  • @StillGamingMaybeLatr
    @StillGamingMaybeLatr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gotta love watching salem lose!

  • @theliamandjustinshow5293
    @theliamandjustinshow5293 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    When tea lost that first match that hurt

  • @neog8029
    @neog8029 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a spectator, I hate 0% Thwack/Whacks. Feels like the lamest way to take a stock. Like, that could have been an interesting part of the match, but RNG said "lol, no. Die."

    • @quotastrider801
      @quotastrider801 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Omg thank you, the first spectator I've seen who doesn't say "hurr durr but rng makes the game more exciting to play and watch"
      Underrated comment. And for those pro hero sure it's a low chance but the fact that the chance EXISTS gives me a heart attack every time I see it in a match.

    • @63skarduken
      @63skarduken 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah. At least with game and watch and getting a nine you have to combo into side b or go for it on a bury or a shield break. And side b has short range and is hard to use. Landing 1 projectile at 0 then getting rng in your favour is meh

  • @pelawler15
    @pelawler15 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    First time i ever played against a hero i got slapped so bad i really thought they needed to get rid of the character 😂 a three stock and i only got like 120 percent damange the whole match. I dont think using roy was a very good idea though either.

  • @YounesLayachi
    @YounesLayachi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Finally it's happening
    The setup god Vs the jank hitboxes

  • @spenhappenin
    @spenhappenin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mawna...

  • @pepper3812
    @pepper3812 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    これは日本人が英語読めないから勇者にしてるのかな?

    • @aki5876
      @aki5876 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ペッパー 多分そう。日本人以外にあんまり勇者使ってないし。ツイッターで英語読めないとは思わなかったとか言ってるけど多分嘘

  • @itslethal4050
    @itslethal4050 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Why does everyone hate Hero? I main Hero

    • @biffyguybiffy6292
      @biffyguybiffy6292 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Because people hate salem. And people (for whatever reason) worship leffen as god.

    • @sonriku7331
      @sonriku7331 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@biffyguybiffy6292 just so you know, he lost to Leffen so yeah think about that kid

    • @qwerty842
      @qwerty842 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      we don't hate Hero, we hate Salem

    • @biffyguybiffy6292
      @biffyguybiffy6292 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Hero King, ok? What am I supposed to think about? He’s also lost to plup. And he’s also won multiple majors.
      Both leffen and Salem are good players with a lot of shitty opinions and are assholes to each other’s primary community. Kid.

    • @itslethal4050
      @itslethal4050 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@biffyguybiffy6292 I didn't know that ok. When I see Hero I just Hero to win I love the winning screen.

  • @jdrmanmusiqking
    @jdrmanmusiqking 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Man hero is such a bad character. Respect to Salem for being the only one to still use the character past the first 2 weeks of release.
    That being said he shouldve used Snake. I get the anti-projectile bounce tech but Pac has some amazing buttons and fast pressure that Hero just cant deal with. Salems Snake is like watching poetry in motion

  • @davidmesut3406
    @davidmesut3406 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is this one comentator so against hero, chill out.

  • @SinnohX
    @SinnohX 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's MANa, not MAWNa. At least that's how they say it in Trials of Mana, a game that's all about mana. (Also, Chawwotte for Smash!)

  • @SwagZombie
    @SwagZombie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Little more research

  • @didisia904
    @didisia904 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    勇者のコマンド英語なの結構やばいな

  • @spamminspiff7685
    @spamminspiff7685 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m not sure whether it’s hilarious or stupid that everyone seems to get so pissed off by Salem. Literally every time he wins people John over it and mention that they hate him, and literally every time he loses people meme with “years of research” and call him trash (and again mention that they hate him). Like we get it, you don’t like the stuff he says, but you carrying on about it isn’t gonna make it any better, in fact, you guys are probably only provoking him to do the same crap he’s already done, it’s becoming an endless circle of shit-talking and BOTH sides seem to want to continue being babies about it.

    • @adamdonley52
      @adamdonley52 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      nice comment salem

    • @spamminspiff7685
      @spamminspiff7685 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Adam Donley Nice reply, it shows that you actually don’t have anything to say. Also by the way, I hate the crap he’s said too, but I realized constantly ragging him over it will only drag the situation on, so if me not constantly shit-talking make me “Salem”, then so be it, but I’m not going to stoop to the level both Salem AND the Smash community have gone to.

    • @zanioxl3663
      @zanioxl3663 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adamdonley52 wow. You're a sad child

    • @adamdonley52
      @adamdonley52 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zanioxl3663 anime profile pic responding 7 months late with nothing of value lol

  • @skaionex
    @skaionex 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Salem got tea-bagged

  • @pirk6192
    @pirk6192 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    someone teach that man how to pronounce mana

  • @RememberTheAGES
    @RememberTheAGES 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Not surprising the comments are toxic. Look, learn the game and stop complaining. This is getting ridiculous.
    The best Hero plays I have seen is when the menu is mixed into his moveset but not to just rely on it. Any player going into this environment needs to prepare and not even trying to learn Hero's menu is just being ignorant. If the role was reverse and this was in Japan or Spain would it still be okay to cry about not knowing the language. No, just learn it, it isn't that hard.
    Now I completely agree that Nintendo could very well fix this by adding a unique symbol to the down b menu, but until then learn a few words.

    • @DefenestrateYourself
      @DefenestrateYourself 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      RememberTheAGES The actual toxicity here is around Salem.

  • @therockazoid
    @therockazoid 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tea just pooped on that man's soul.

  • @Freakybananayo
    @Freakybananayo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Salems hero is godlike.

  • @Jamage007
    @Jamage007 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hate Salem but I am South Australian (no joke) and want to see Hero banned so I don't know who to cheer for.

  • @cheesewheel
    @cheesewheel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Honestly, Salem's hero doesn't look that incredible. He's not doing anything particularly special. Clearly he's pretty good, since he's making it to finals (or lucky) but still doesn't look really like he's doing much to optimize and advance hero meta.

  • @phoebeaurum7113
    @phoebeaurum7113 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not entirely convinced that anyone should be banning Hero.

  • @ubadman1
    @ubadman1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    so wait people are arguing hero usage was an unfair strategy by salem when he lost? this community is full of nonsensical people. these international players attending the tournament in an english speaking event took care to learn how to adapt to the situation. hero is not a hard mu in this game. hero is barely a decent character. a little bit of effort and you too can win the MU rather than whine on youtube and reddit.

    • @quotastrider801
      @quotastrider801 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think people are also frustrated by his rng online, it's more of a venting thing as well as some occasional bad luck

  • @chrisg1341
    @chrisg1341 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tea looks crazy as hell. What is wrong with him? Lol

  • @Carlisho
    @Carlisho 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Salem needs play Zelda for the PacMan mu

  • @2Boios
    @2Boios 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    lets go TEA!!! salems gonna need to go home and hopefully do a few more years or research before we see him again

  • @KingDarksider
    @KingDarksider 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    TeaPacMan TeaPacMan TeaPacMan

  • @pip5188
    @pip5188 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good match but what is this commentary

  • @ye8692
    @ye8692 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    めっちゃ思うんやけど相手の呪文わからんtea不利じゃね?

  • @claymore10100
    @claymore10100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just here to watch Salem lose
    Imagine being a pro and only being able to land side b.

  • @bigtoblerone8446
    @bigtoblerone8446 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    hmmm... :thinking emoji:
    There's a suspicious lack of complaints here about the language barrier of Hero's menu... It's almost like it means little or nothing at all as Raito said, and everyone just likes to use that excuse to rag all over Salem for controversy~
    #noMoreJohns!

  • @davidhoar75
    @davidhoar75 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Tea is HOT!

  • @GGMAN3443
    @GGMAN3443 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lol i just realized he only use hero against Japanese player

    • @dende_ult714
      @dende_ult714 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Stop being stupid, he uses Hero because it's a good Matchup and also he mains him....next time think before you say some bullshit

    • @GGMAN3443
      @GGMAN3443 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol I wasn’t criticizing or anything man chill man. I like Salem hero :P

    • @Yukiloop
      @Yukiloop 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just remove the word "only".

  • @algar6616
    @algar6616 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    why shake salems hand?
    inferior man
    show him to the dooor

  • @adambarker1626
    @adambarker1626 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    just wanna say before it begins I hope Salem loses

    • @zanioxl3663
      @zanioxl3663 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why do you think Tea vs Marss was the grand finals