Recreating a Banned Toy from the 1980s
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- The Australian made Popball was my favourite toy when I was a young kid. A simple rubber 'half-ball' style toy that uses its own stored kinetic energy to launch itself into the air. These simple toys have been around for a long time and you can still buy them today. But the Popball that I remember was far more powerful than the newer ones! And that led to it being banned across schools - and I was never really sure why.
Now, 35 years later, I wanted to get to the bottom of the urban myths and recreate the toy using materials and processes like 3D printing, mould making and even using unusual materials like carbon black. It was certainly a challenge, but I managed to achieve my goals and learn a whole lot about my favourite childhood toy!
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So, I was kinda into Popballs as a kid! What was your favourite childhood toy?
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So why was it banned? 🤔 An why are the knock-offs much worse? 🤔
Great video! 🤓
True
@electrosync do you sell these?
I hope he got it back
I loved to collect pogs in the 90's
Banned in the 80s? These were given as prizes in cereals when I was a kid (circa 2005-ish)
Not banned by the authorities, banned in schools. There were many things we were not allowed to bring to school in my childhood, most of them were not banned because they were dangerous in any way but because they would either distract from the lessons or be so valuable there would be a theft problem or angry parents blaming the school if they got lost or broken. I think I remember these (or something similar) being advertised here in Finland at some time but in the late 80:s I was a little too old to play with them as I was born in 1971.
@@Murgoh meanwhile, my teacher gave these out as prizes if you aced enough spelling tests.
I also had a similar adverse reaction to the title... but decided to watch the video for 30 seconds before commenting.
Do you remember what kind of cereal it was? Just curious.
@@Murgohand now teachers can’t take cell phones from kids. Go figure
+1 for Peter Fish. That dude was very cool about things.
I wish we had more people like him.
At the end of the video you sort of want electrosync to have created a popball so powerful he just stands on a promontory above a roaring ocean during a storm and holds it in the palm of his hand yelling "RETURN TO YOUR CREATOR!" and the popball explodes out the palm of his hand and flies into the storm to return to Peter Fish.
@@L_Martin Fantastic
Yeah it was very nice of him to help and even send a sample.
So great that Peter was kind enough to help you on your journey.
what a legend
Marbles were banned because of gambling?! For us they were banned because some genius threw a king marble at another kid's head and fractured their skull. Parallel universes I guess.
BRUH😒
Peter Fish is one cool dude. And I'm surprised the original rubber one still worked after 30 years!
Not the modern cheap rubber that breaks down in 6 months.
The only problem with the original ones was the whole in the middle may eventually develop a split, which stopped it from working properly. That what happened after I handed mine down to my nephew. But it was about 15 years old by then, and my nephew did give it a good work out.
@@notsillyone I think that was why I threw mine away...lol I prolly tried adding Tarzan's Grip glue to it but only delayed the inevitable, then I realised it is easy to make with a well cut in half tennis ball, remove the fur and melt a hole in the middle - done correctly it will work just the same!
@@gavincurtis Like modern technology such as Apple products that die in a year or 2! The decline was from 1996 when we started to use lead free solder/sodder in electronics. That meant the lead free solder/sodder on circuits melt as they warm up and crack when they cool down, over time the chip or component will separate from the board of the device - prime example was the original XBOX360 or PS3. This is why older devices last a LOT longer - the lead in the solder/sodder is less prone to melting under environmental stress combined with regular use.
Apple products die because the OS tells them to. That’s why you should never update when told to. I am still on the original OS on my iPhone, my buddy got his the same day and he kept updating his phone. He says the battery lasts maybe 3 hours now and it’s glitchy. Mine holds a charge all day still and my only complaint is the touch-screen is too sensitive.
I once had the bright idea of using a pop ball to roll some dice. It shot them into the air with sufficient force to smash the glass lightshade at my cousin's house. Good times.
Its eye opening how much work and genuine invention went into developing and creation of such "simple thing" a rubber that pops. Not only pops good, but is also durable enough to hold for half a century.
And to think that we are unable to recreate 100% what our parents did many decades ago, thats humbling.
It's not a matter of not being able to make it and more of not wanting to. You have a lot more rules, regulations, and red tape in modern times. Plenty of room for trouble, and Peter himself even said they were too strong as a result of the rubber. The other issue is there's no need. The economy is much more margin centric now a days and it doesn't make sense to increase the manufacturing costs of an insignificant children's toy. Especially if by doing so you can incite legal problems.
this comment was right under the pop-eyes comment lmaoo
A lot of it is also coincidence. Chances are that this produce is just the result of someone utilizing something he saw. Like he worked with rubber and one day saw/heard something similar to what this toy did (such as rest material in an unusual shape), so at some point he decided to turn it into an actual thing. Of course it could also be the result of hard work and development, just saying that many things are discovered by accident or through experience, which is then used to create an actual product.
That's like saying it's humbling that you can't recreate a Marvel movie in your basement. It's not humbling, it's just a matter of not having the same kind of resources and possibilities. I'm pretty sure "we" could 100% recreate it, if you can get some funding and production facilities for it.
And "durable to hold a century" is also neither strange nor some lost art. It's essentially just a lump of rubber. Nothing to break here. You can't compare it to, say, the life cycle of a smartphone.
Kiwi here. I remember these too. Like most childhood possessions, you don't always appreciate how cool things were until it's impossible to get back. Boy did this take me back.
And Peter is a G
Like Chester Bennington(Linkin Park) said "You don't know what you've got, until it's gone" . Cool songs by them btw. Pretty sure the song it's from is called _Until It's Gone_
Ritchie here.. these weren't banned at all and are still available to buy.. your next holiday in Amsterdam perhaps ? :)
"marbles were banned because kids were starting up a gambling racket!."had me laughing of my chair.😄
Beyblades were also banned 'cause we kept gambling with them.
Lego was also banned 'cause we made beyblades and gambled with them.
Many things were banned for the same reason, haha.
@@spankyjeffro5320 wtf is going on over there
Also I'm pretty sure they weren't banned. I'm 100% sure they are available even today. I've bought some marbles myself long time ago, but also long after '90s.
i guess kids where really losing their marbles over this xD
@@Netsukithey mean banned in schools. you couldn't bring those toys in because of these problems
Ok never knew you were supposed to throw these... we just set them on the floor and watched haha
same here
I would put them under things to watch them fly 😂😂😂😂
I remember if ever I threw them, they would revert in the air, so we always did the same as you. Every surface we could think of, we sat those damn poppits on. Including our eyes, nose, tongues.... 😅
Same
@@Lucy_Fordgave myself a bruise by putting one over my eye
Man I love that the original created worked with you. Im sure it meant a lot to him to know someone cared that much. Respect.
I’m a ‘70s kid and know squat about 3D printing, yet I found this riveting. The hacks he made to override his printer’s governors were the best part. 😅🤷♂️ I’m in awe of this level of ingenuity & stick-to-itiveness. 👏👏👏👏
There's an easier word for "stick-to-itiveness" -- perseverance (or persistence) :D
@@Lostachilles I’ve got a masters in American Lit. Ever heard of style & usage? “Perseverance,” huh. I bet you like “emotional rollercoaster” & “amazing,” too. 🥴 You remind me of the social outcasts in every class. Be proud. Have a seat: 👉 🚽
lol grandpa no need to get all defensive
@@olapyza 🥴
Recreus Industries: "we made the most elastic and flexible filament on the market for professionals"
Electrosync: "I printed a Popball!"
Printers of the future should just auto-order and mix the required ingredients for the design you want to print. Otherwise it is still too much effort for a custom one time use prop.
@@nangld Are you suggesting 3D printing with parametric composition capabilities, such as adjusting strength, flexibility, shine and so on?... I like you!
@@nangldyou're underestimating the complexity of making such specialty filament
@@nangld Oh god no, sounds a lot like some DRMed startup ideas.
Hell, that's the idea behind Juiceroo
My friend got his hands on some flexible filament and made a fidget slug. Its segments don't move, but there's something satisfying about its slight squishiness. (It can't be squeezed too hard, though, otherwise it might break.)
9:30 the disrespect of that beetle that shat on your print bed had me rolling
LOL! Sure they aren’t future beetles?
I just noticed it lol 🤣
Did its own little 3D print project
as a time time traveller @@thebrapman this comment is underrated
@@emmettturner9452 They are not gonna be any future beetles on that heated bed
Yes! The black one with the duck on it jumped the most, that thing was amazing, you brought me back sweet memories I forgot to have. Thank you maestro, ¡Grande!
What a nice video to watch with all the nice camera shots, the music, the narration - you nailed it!
I think mr. Fish going through same processes to create the toy in the first place. I hope he is proud of you!
I loved the music too! Sadly he only linked to epidemicsound.
Man if I was in the original creator's position I'd really enjoy watching this video, seems like a real good dude.
A frequent cry from adults when I was a kid a long time ago was 'Don't play with that, it'll have your eye out.' This tended to apply to conkers, anything with elastic bands (a popular home-made skipping device), over-fuzzy plushies (!), the corners of books, five-stones and jacks especially the bouncy jacks ball, anything given away free in comics, those plastic submarines you put baking powder inside to play with in the bath, lucky bag lollies and drinking straws. Barbie's predecessor, Tressy, - 'her hair grows' was her UPS - came with a whole stash of accessories, all of them destined to cause near- fatal injuries.
If you think about it, literally EVERYTHING is dangerous in their own way. You just gotta be careful otherwise we might as well just be dead...
To be fair, being told something would blast your eyeball straight out of your skull was probably enough to make a reasonable kid think twice about doing something that would actually cause that to happen with said objects.
How in the everlasting, soda-stained *BLIN* is a plushie supposed to take your eye out?! ò_Ó I swear to god, helicopter parents make me want to punch mankind.
@@MEGATRYANT For other kids that just made them even more appealing 😂
@@barahng Ye, but subconsiously they would avoid blasting their eyeball out of their skull
These were my favorite childhood toy that wasn't an rc car or video game. I do remember that once we started getting low quality import ones they didn't hold their shape while inside out for long enough to do anything. The older ones were the best, and you never knew when they would go, but once they did, KABOOM!
It's quite wonderful to see someone passionate enough about something so simple that you reached out to the original creator of Popballs and were kind enough to return the original back to him. I enjoyed everything about this video.
finally something fucking good to watch
I'm glad you liked it!
I feel your pain
If you havent go watch his worlds fastest roomba build!
lets go!
@@kristian6087 i did, loved it
Really impressive! Insane you got that to print at all.
It was definitely a challenge!
Woah I loved the whole video especially the background music! Very well done!❤
I thought they banned marbles because people threw them down to avoid being chased?
I remember having one of these. It was always like a jump scare when the thing popped, kinda like staring at the toaster and trying not to flinch when it shot up
Sounds like a great "toy" for cat owners! 😁
So do I. But I never understood what it was good for. It could slap pretty hard, though. 😅
I hated it fir that reason haha
@@2degucitas cats suck, do yourself a favor and get a dog.
Jump scare 🤔. Then yours wasn't as strong as mine. Everybody in my household was afraid of them, if you throw one on someone's shirtless back it leaves a nasty welt lol😅
It’s great to see you highlighting good practices with regards to fume monitoring and air filtration around 3d printers.
yeah, Ive always wondered about this with 3d printers but never heard anyone say anything about it
I love the lil guy appearing at 9:31 to appreciate the printer and then leave shortly after lol
"the yoyo was great, but soon it was banned for being weaponized"
*BRIDGET INTENSIFIES*
Excellent video, brought back so many memories. We actually worked with Peter Fish for many years, illustrating and designing his toy packaging, etc. We were even lucky enough to do the 90s POPball relaunch packaging when we were still in our teens.
Thats so cool
9:31 finally a real proof you're in Australia.
The stink bug on their print bed?
@@thetab0179 spiders in australia
@@Its_Milkman but it's not a spider...
I thought it was a fly (a lot of flies in Aus) so I gave this comment a like. I see it looks more like a potato beetle if you pause the video
Is it because the text is upside down?
Dude, I just cackled at 'industrial Vegemite'. 😄 6:02
I’ve still got my original one with me. It still works decades later, it has a small split, but no number on the inside. Very cool video. That thing about stuff getting banned shows sometimes a small number of people can ruin something for everyone
Also in Australia, we had gumball machines that dispensed smaller ones called “Pop-Eyes” and they were banned cause kids were putting them on their eyes and the pop would damage the eye and cause blindness. A lot of see-through neon coloured ones.
Australian kids are stupid then 😂
How sad some of the children in your area are so stupid 😢
No doubt one exceptionally stupid and unlucky kid ruined it for everybody. The nanny state is terrible. People should be allowed to experience consequences of their own foolishness! It's not a tragedy.
everyone underestimates 3D printing, but got to give Peter Fish credit for helping out even though he thought it wouldn't work. I bet with a printer better suited to flexible filaments and some tweaking you could get closer to the original too. awesome stuff
This was a lot of fun. Your tenacity is inspring!
Glad you got some materials from my beloved land, you are the best.
I miss my childhood marble gambling racket.
That was my favourite too, they did give us a two week marble season at the start of the year though and nothing else got played for those two weeks.
A pity i gave mine away, had some real collectors.
Just chop a tennis ball in half. Same effect.
Or a racquetball
Surprised I had to scroll this far down for this. Nothing says maker culture like spending a week, using thousands of dollars of equipment & materials, that may be toxic, to make something that could have been done with a (tennis) ball and a utility knife. 🫠
@@afdkj “It scares” you that 7 people agree it would have been quicker, cheaper and easier to cut a ball in half?
Did you search this video out specifically, or did the AI algorithm suggest it to you?
@@afdkj You doing okay?
The way peter responded to u and sent u one is so sweet
I was an 80s kid and I remember owning some Popballs myself, they were fun!!! Even remembered seeing the ad and nagging my parents for a Popball! Had no idea they got banned, but that's Australia for ya, a lot of stuff gets banned! Excellent video on recreating the Popball using 3D printing, thoroughly enjoyed it, glad the creator Peter Fish was very supportive of your project and helped you out!
I used to make these myself by cutting squash balls in half. They work a treat. Very powerful.
Say it aint so!
You mean i dont need $300 printer?
I can just chop a $1 ball in half!
@@alfonsedente9679 Ha, yep. Depends on the squash ball, but the ones I made worked pretty good. I got about 5ft (150cm or so) out of some of them (they were coming up to my shoulders and I'm 5'10" or 178cm), especially if you put them in the fridge for a little while first to stiffen them up. Some of the real one's we got in the US back in the day, though, would go 20-30ft in the air! So, these are not exactly perfect, but probably about as good as what he was printing.
@@AlphaMachina i remember the colors...
I tried a blue one today, worked great.
The black ones i had were too thick, not enough air space in the middle.
Ill try greens next.
A couple guys posted tennis balls worked ok.
Just thinking logically, im guessing the common pink or spaldeen was what the one kids were making.
Should've sent a printed one back with the original. I'll bet the creator would've been super fascinated by it, and how close you were able to get
How did you miss the part where he puts a 3D-printed one in the package before he put the original one in with it? Like, it was super obvious.
Most of this school banned toys would be gold in the hands of a good science teacher
the science behind all these seemingly simple toys is always mind blowing...
Stuck one of these to my forehead and it left a nice mark that stayed for at least a week. Smart kid
I was just waiting for a comment like this 😀
Same here! And then I wore a PopBall sized band aid on my forehead for a whole week or two at school.
@@pyrosnap4524 glad I'm not the only one
I put one on my eye. Broke blood vessels for at least a month lmao
@@slime_camp Kids will be kids.
That's the reason they were banned lol
I vaguely remember DIYing one out of a tennis ball. Didn't quite work as the shape wasn't right, but that's a material you should try.
I actually did try that, but I cut it from the edit in the end. It didn’t work for me.
If I'm not mistaken Tennis Balls are from natural rubber which would be the material of the original black popball.
just cut a racquetball in half.
haha look who I found in the comments :D
@riba2233 🤣
I never saw anything like this in the U.S., but I enjoyed hearing your story and seeing your attempts to recreate it, and especially the fact that you got in touch with Peter Fish himself. A very wholesome and heartwarming journey.
I guessing you mean you never saw them ever be banned (this video has shockingly irresponsible clickbait)? You can still find these at many dollar stores in the USA, as well as pretty much every remaining physical toy store and most novelty shops.
@@awesomeferret Knowing how litigious Americans are I would happily take the bet that the first iteration of pop balls were as banned in the US as they were everywhere else.
@@krashd good luck explaining why (and stereotypes don't count, come on now). Remember, you can easily buy these in the USA. I wonder if people are confusing poppers with the drug, which is banned. Why would such a relatively harmless toy be banned? It just doesn't add up. So I can get marbles for my kid that they can swallow hole, but they can't get whacked in the face by a piece of rubber once or twice... OK.
I had a few of them as a kid, but didn’t know what they were called… thank you for making that video, pretty nostalgic.
In the 1960's, Edmund Scientific had jumping discs made of bimetallic thermostat material. You warmed it up in your hand so it would stay inverted, then it hopped when it cooled in a couple of seconds. They went really high especially from a hard surface.
I remember the CSIRO "double helix" membership got you one of those bimetallic discs.. back in the 80s/90s.
Lmao, I bet those were really aggressive XD
Yes, I enjoyed those jumping disks. But after some usage, they would fail to remain "cocked". I suppose that metal fatigue set in or else some separation developed at the bimetal interface. Prior to the jumping disks, we enjoyed the plastic insects with the springy wire legs and the suction cup on the underside. These were indeed an eye hazard and were banned or else were no longer sold due to injury liability. (I'm glad I grew up and survived in an era when safety was not the be-all and end-all. Sometimes, experience can be a great teacher, if we survive without too much harm.)
Can you find these now? I want some of or my daughter
I remember these so well and I loved them too until they were banned (Europe).
I remember newly bought ones had to be "broken in" a bit. They would get easier to setup and would go higher after a day of playing.
Where were they banned? We got these everywhere when i was younger (between 2000 - 2010)
@@channelnamedarson yeah same I'm european and I don't remember it being banned
@@channelnamedarson they never were banned anywhere, a lot of schools/districts might not have allowed them, but that would get fewer clicks.
When I was in NZ back in 2012 they still had them there
here in germany they are still sold. why would they get "banned"? makes no sense.
Awesome video brought back a lot of memories as a kid from the 1990’s I had a blue and grey one.
Nothing stops a curious kid, well done Sir!
My son was born in 1979 and had these as a kid in the 80s. A lot of his toys are still here in a trunk for grandkids to play with. I'm sure there will be a popper or two floating around in there. Great vid.
This takes me back. I remember playing with these toys all the time when I was a kid. It looks like there was a lot of hard work, as well as plenty of trial and error involved in making your version, but the results looked pretty good in the end. Nice work.
I remember cutting tennis balls in half to make a DIY version.
Thanks Peter. I only thought of these 2 days ago for my daughter as it was one of my favorites as a kid. I can remember many hours throwing them like a frisbee and popping them from a distance.
I had a blue one! Loved it. I still have it somewhere but no doubt it will have perished after a few decades in the heat of the garage.
Mine was blue too! When Peter sent me his blue one, it brang back a lot of memories.
That ending was so sweet. Really good video
The video I didn't know I wanted to watch until it popped up in my feed. I "think" I remember something like this from my childhood.
I wore out many of them in primary school, with me they always tore along hole after much use.
That was a fun video, thanks for sharing.
Me too! My original Popball was blue and it tore along the hole too. It still worked though.
Great video, i remember having a blast playing with them as a child, fortunately in our school non of the toys were banned (execpt of playing card for some reason)
That toy was great!!! Mine disappeared. I always figured it would turn up again one day, but it never did. I saw some for sale in a party favours section at the grocery store a few years ago and bought them for kicks, but found them extremely disappointing. Thank you very much for this video. I didn't know what they were called, and I also didn't know why I never saw the real ones ever again for sale anywhere. I usually don't support 3D printing, because it seems to be wasteful and bad for the environment, but man was is satisfying to see the pop ball in action one more time after all these years! I think what I loved about it as a kid was not only how high it bounced, but that I didn't know when it would pop or where it would go. Haha the simple joys of being a kid. Good times. :)
I had no clue these were banned, I grew up with these man!
Love it, remember them fondly. I think we also made DIY versions out of racquetball halves.
This was so facinating to watch. Being an 80's kid myself, I remember having wicked dangerously fun toys (looking at you, automatic pogo stick etc). Glad you managed to get an original to base your model off of! So cool. Hope your day goes great. P.S. would you ever consider selling your 3D pop balls?
Jesus Christ on a motorbike! He went all into super laboratory mode to recreate the pop-ball! That's dedication!
Wow, you went through a lot of trouble recreating it. Kudos to you and the manufacturer of the "original". I had a couple of these when I was younger too!
I remember a game from my childhood, I forget what it was called but you had to land a plane attached to a wire and a joystick. My mum refused to buy one telling me I would get bored of it quickly. I so wanted this toy (the gleeful expression on the children in the advert had me) so I make a mock up with a kit plane fishing line an cardboard. I had more fun making that than I ever could have had playing with the game. Thanks Mum😊😊👍👍
9:31 I can see that the process still has a few bugs.
I remember these from my youth, I was born in '88. These definitely were up there with POGS.
Wow, I've been thinking of these fascinating toys quite a bit over the years! I'm now 44 years old, but I have fond memories of these popballs! (Although, less fond memories of popping them while wearing a baseball cap - the stud in the centre of the hat presses into your head in response to the popball going off, ouchy!)
Fascinating video.
Brilliant video. I'm same age and remember these also. Thanks for the nostalgic trip.
Glad you enjoyed it
Great job, thanks for sharing 👍
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for bring my childhood memories back.
9:29 not the bug on the print bed 💀💀💀
I remember these in the 90's here in Brazil. Great video!
man i loved my popball when i was a kid. i'd put it on my forehead and man did it give me a good slap. the dumb things we did, it was great
I also had one of these 😂 really enjoyed this video a welcome change to the recommendations i normally get.
oh my gosh I know these! I haven't seen one in so long, I just remember pushing it in and waiting for it to pop, I never tried dropping it. man, now I want one
9:29 wtf That guy sneaking in and popping all over your bed... hahahaha good vid btw you just gave me an unexpected glimpse back into my childhood!
Really good video! Thanks for it. Needed some good vibes today
Enjoy the vibes!
These are not banned and are still easy to find in discount stores like Big Lots.
"Pop Ball. Not just half a tennis ball, but a complete waste of time."
At 5:34, it's not clear what Peter Fish meant by "too dangerous" with the discontinued, extra jumpy, black ones made from recycled rubber. Too much force, maybe causing occasional eye injuries? Some leaching out of unhealthful compounds, if it was rubber not originally intended for frequent handling?
Yeah, I'm curious about that too
Eyes, yes, but ears also. If you let one of these things 'pop' close to your ear (not even covering your ear cana,l just near) you can seriously damage your hearing. It became a 'prank' that shitty kids would do in school, sneak one up to your ear and pop it.
so much effort for such a little thing
There are _many_ fish in the sea... but only _ONE_ as cool as "Peter Fish". Stand up guy for sending you a sample, also a stand up guy for mailing it BACK!
I have never played with the original toy, but a cut in half racquetball ball works wonders and it is a very cheap,easy and fast approach.
Bro literally walked down the memory lane and revived his love! 💪🏻
Good video! Made with respect to original toy inventor.
Peter Fish - a name I didn't know yesterday - is now a legend in my mind.
Oh, and subbed. Excellent video!
the fact that the creator used a certain die number as his secret is quite funny considering that it is actually just a normal procedure and practice in cavitation molding...
.... Did TH-cam actually give me a good recommendation. Such a cool video!
Thanks for watching!
"industrial Vegemite" thumbs up
6:03 Industrial Vegemite is my favorite Australian indie band!
"The children are having fun! Someone do something!"
1:00 OMG, I had literally all of those toys as a kid XD
Same
I loved those things! They were so fun to play with! Everything fun goes away.
My daughter won one of these 2 months ago at the amusements, and we didn't know what it was or is until now there was no packaging glad I know now and can show her ❤
Damn i miss theses toy