Japan lost 800,000 people in 2023
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The number of babies born in Japan fell for an eighth-straight year to a fresh record low in 2023. The figure is based on preliminary government data released on February 27, 2024, underscoring the daunting task the country faces in trying to stem depopulation.
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Stressed animals do not reproduce (and I don't say this in a demeaning way). People are overworked, unable to afford housing, etc., and lots of folks are struggling while wealthy business owners and real estate moguls only get wealthier. Until something changes, we're going to see population in developed countries decline.
You said it like it was something bad. Over the past 100 years, the world's population has increased 3.5 times and continues to increase. If in some regions the population is declining, this should be perceived as a positive process.
@UserUser-in6ig I didn't say population declines are bad. In my personal opinion in the long term it is something that needs to happen, there should not be such a thing as infinite growth, and that should hopefully increase wages and reduce the price of food and housing. From the financial perspective of governments and companies however, a decreasing population/ workforce would be bad.
What I do think is bad is the growing wealth gap.
@@purplepotato8849purple, almost nothing in your first comment is true.
Please start valuing human life.
@earlysda Perhaps you'd like to elaborate? And why would overpopulation equate to valuing human life and population decline equate to not valuing human life? If anything, overpopulation decreases quality of life. Population declines occur naturally when birth rates fall, no one is advocating slaughter.
@s1767 The correlation between wealth of a country, income, and family size is down to a set of different factors, which you can Google. In rural areas which are labor-intensive children may be a net benefit, there is also access to and education regarding prophylactics, marriage age, child mortality rates etc and other determining factors. The causes as it relates to individual countries can get very diverse. This video and other similar ones are focusing on declining birth rates in supposedly affluent and developed countries.
It’s almost as if overworking and being underpaid is making people less interested in having children.
They don’t want the same fate for their children unless they can improve their financial situation
So people in Muslim and African countries must be underworked and overpaid because their population keeps growing exponentially! By your logic.
Yea . At least that’s my reason . I’m 29 and although I been with women that have been interested in having children with me I’ve made it clear to them that’s not something I want . Having a child an a family would be very hard for me to support. I love children but I don’t necessarily want any of my own .
Ikr who would've thought 🤔
Japan ranks 31st in the world for hours worked per annum. The overworked Japanese meme is misleading.
This is what happens when people are burnt out from grade 1.
The bulk of that 800,000 were in their 80s
To be fair to Japan, their school system doesn’t receive the same notoriety as China’s or Korea’s, whose school systems end with the stressful Gaokao and CSAT respectively, and Japanese people typically think back to their school years as a better time, so school seems to be the one thing that Japan is doing better than the other two asian economies with similar demographics
The country treat their women like trash. Its billion dollar phoorn industry.
it's not that
@@angelook7273 it explains why much of animation centers around high school or the characters are aged 14-17. Just another level to the escapism
I just turned 40 this year. I can say without a shadow of a doubt. That we millennials are not having children because of the greed and inequality in the world. We want what our parents had but cannot achieve this with children. Our leaders and parents asked us to be the future and gave us impassable mountains to climb. Greed is killing the human race.
Edit: Didn’t think this comment would blow up like this. But thanks 😅. Let’s a dude know he’s not alone.
As a parent myself, I would not mind my children not having any children of their own if matters are the same or worse. I’d encourage them to live freely and enjoy their lives being single rather than raise children while trying to survive inflation. Society has taught me inflation is unpredictable, and no matter how high your salary is, you cannot win the race.
@mabushipster9578 In poor countries usually the quality of life has always been low, so there's not much difference between generations. Plus in some cases children are seen as a paycheck, either as laborers or to receive government assistance.
Agreed, and I think it also can be called plutocracy.
You know, when you think about having a child from a neutral point of view, a question comes to mind
Why are our societies so maniacally obsessed with having kids?
It's only logical that people who want and can afford kids should have them
As a Middle Eastern myself, I will try to resist against social pressure to marry and have kids even though I'm not sure I can succeed
Capitalistic greed will end us all
Employees are working over 12 hours, now asking them to work even harder to produce babies.
Yep.
Some people have two jobs and the cost of living is so expensive.
😂... these politicians are heartless..
@@Asim2846 By the same token, it was easier to earn more money and maintain that income level before than it is today. not to mention, at least one parent would hardly be present in the life of their children.
It's called not making the same mistakes as people here before us, you should try it sometime.@@Asim2846
In Consulting people work up to 80 hours. In Investment Banking they usually work from 90 to 100 hours. just adding some facts
Housing isn't cheap and affordable, but birth control is!
Economics everyone should know
Condoms are cheaper than plan B, Plan B is cheaper than an abortion, abortion is cheaper than diapers
I think it's more about women not being forced to have kids anymore. In a lot of euro countries housing isn't cheap but it doesn't stop Muslims from having 4 kids before being 25
@PatrickArcato that's what he meant by birth control, it allowed women to choose.
@@jayc342009 It's cultural progress that did so, not scientific. Again birth control exists for Muslims but they're still spreading like bunnies
@@PatrickArcatobecause those muslims get welfare checks paid for by the whites(real euros). The euro population is shrinking because they’re taxed heavily to pay the migrates and give them homes instead while the white can barely afford rent. Same exact thing is happening in the US and South Africa.
Corporations seeing their future supply of wage slaves dwindling
With the advances of AI and robotics, I doubt they are too worried.
The population wouldn’t decline this much if corporations gave people more time off, so people can actually live instead of work
Why hire humans when robots and computers are so much better and will be even better in the future?
@@extremepsyche3135 will AI buy whatever these corporations make?
@@Bookstar28don't need to once they can make and produce whatever big boss wants. Why need money then?
Its hard especially with salary staying the same and prices going up.
Bot
Actually salary in Japan is declining...
If salaries go up as well, that would negate the meaning of prices going up. Get some education.
@@user-uj2tk2tv3zi don't think it's bot
Wow a bot commenting
In Korea the birthrate is even lower then in Japan...this will bite the economy eventually. In Japan the society is not aging out but dying out.
I noticed that in Korea it’s a much more extreme version of this.
Not really. Overconsumption will cause the economy to decline, not population decline. If people consume less, there would be less demand. The economy will stabilize itself and the economy will reflect the consumption of the population. Developed nations consume to much. Koreans are very materialistic and hence consume too much that it is unsustainable.
Funny thing is that this whole problem is caused by greed. And yet, the consequences are destroying their beloved profits.
@@Bruhbruhbruh-rn9qvEconomic problems are not the primary reason lol. A lack of willingness is. For most of human history human beings lived in far more inconvenient and poorer conditions and yet reproduced. Materialistic attitudes is what's hurting Japan and South Korea the most.
China too. They were too busy implementing the 1 child policy and suffocating girl babies for just boys. Now they suffering.
You can't even afford a house to live in nowadays, why would you even have children unless you want them to suffer.
So you have descendants. who knows maybe 100 years from now things will be better. we’re all part of very very very ancient bloodlines and things have changed dramatically for our ancestors through time who are we to end it all now by choice???
@@randomperson5817 live in the present, not for the future, it is their blood line, they know what is best for them, who are we to talk about this? According to u in 100 yrs it will become better but what will happen if it become more worse, are u willing to take the responsibility??
@@randomperson5817It isn't even greedy, people are just asking for basic needs, which their previous generation had. Affordable housing, sustainable child raising cost.
Why would people wanna compromise their freedom for this greedy world?
@@randomperson5817this is the type of thing the government needs to make sacrifices for, not struggling individual people. People shouldn’t be pressured into having kids knowing they can’t care for them the way they want to just so their lineage will continue on. Like the other comment said we can’t live in the future, hoping that maybe in the future things will get better while neglecting everything in the present.
@@randomperson5817 That's a huge maybe...
Hmm, it's almost like when two parents are forced to work in order to survive, it is impossible for them to have children.
Who could have seen that coming? The only reason Africans are having babies is they’re lazy. I bet most of them don’t work.
lol
If they have money to buy condoms AnD anti babies pills they have money to have kids
Nor should they. Should always be a mother at home, so this idea that women working as mothers is acceptable is absolutely depraved.
That's what the plan was the entire time.
Work to live. ✅
Live to work. ❌
You want more babies? How about creating more affordable homes and affordable childcare. Most Japanese company overwork their employees
The average cost of a home in Tokyo is $330,000. The average cost of a home in Toronto, Canada is 1.2 million. Japan ranks 31st in the world for hours worked per annum. On average the Japanese work 37.5 hours per week.
@@gordonbgrahamI'm questioning all of that, what's your source?
@@desmondjefferson2127 OECD (hours worked per annum by country), Japan's ministry of labour puts out a "white paper" annually that details hours worked by age, gender and industry. It's in Japanese but you can translated it with a click and drag. Also Japan Rail's data which shows that the evening rush hour between 5~6pm is the busiest in train stations throughout Japan. Japan Rail is Japan's largest rail service provider. It's estimated that 70% of Japan's workforce commutes to work by train. Japan Rail's data is of actual people counted going through turnstiles.
@@desmondjefferson2127 OECD (hours worked per annum by country), the ministry of labour's annual white paper that documents hours worked by age, gender and industry. Japan Rail's data which shows the evening rush hour in train stations throughout Japan are busiest between the hour of 5~6pm, indicating that is when the MAJORITY is returning home from work.
OECD (hours worked per annum by country), the ministry of labour's annual white paper that documents hours worked by age, gender and industry. Japan Rail's data which shows the evening rush hour in train stations throughout Japan is busiest between the hour of 5~6pm, indicating that is when the MAJORITY is returning home from work. It’s estimated that 70% of Japan’s workforce commutes to work by train.
The problem is, Japanese government tell Japanese people to "have more kids" but :
- daycare in Japan is extremely expensive.
- most Japanese living in the city especially Tokyo or Osaka, where having kid it too expensive for most "salaryman"
Ernest, that is just false.
Not to even mention actually GETTING YOUR CHILD INTO a daycare center or a kindergarten. Getting a spot is really difficult. You have to apply like years before. Best case scenario it's like 6 months before.
@@earlysda Those are two rather true statements on a whole list of issues why their birth rate is falling. Perhaps you could provide evidence to the contrary as they did point out actual issues and I am curious to how you believe these are not true or issues or both?
Sounds like California. Only difference is that our democrat government uses taxpayer dollars to support low income families. And apparently, it’s the low income families who tend to have more kids.
Some other issues include how most young people tend to want to move to the cities with higher costs of living instead of staying in cheaper areas... its like that in other countries too, with ones like china suffering as the elderly try to farm the fields now... another would be how the work culture of Japan makes it nearly essential to have daycare to even "look after" your kid; you can see how much they work, and even find stories and images of several that have died from being overworked, just dropping dead from exhaustion.
If you cant even care for a child while you try to make ends meet, the reasons begin to snowball why people don't have or want kids. I know that it is doable in most places with high costs of living, but even in some interviews around a Japanese city (I think it was Tokyo), some couples just don't want kids. There are so many reasons why people don't want kids, which cant be fixed by simply having a government ask people to have more kids.
I saw their government began making rather "progressive" plans, such as by encouraging people with family to move to the countryside, and even provide some aid for those with kids or what not, but I mostly forgot all that the plans covered, so take it with a few pounds of salt; I don't believe the policies will last long, likely being removed as soon as the birth rate becomes a positive again, as that is what I can expect from their government tbh... and no, we don't have it better in America, and in fact a ton of countries are reporting similar issues in birth rates falling.
Seriously... Who the heck really wants to bring up a child, in a CRAZY world like this!?
It's objectively better today than at any other time in history. Modern people are nihilistic.
When the house is messy, who in their right mind would blame the house?
@@allthe1I can clean a house, I can't maintain world peace
@@thedude3005 Exactly. You can't fix your world, so why bring someone else into it who'll be as powerless and then blame the world for everything? Or worse, blame the child? You'd have to be out of your mind.
Normal people who aren't nihilists and understand that quality of life has never been better
who would want to bring a child into the world to suffer the raising costs , lol
A reminder that you are working and paying taxes for a generation that used to think that your birth was oppressing them.
Crazy or uneducated people can do this
@@UserUser-in6igso since Japanese are Very Sane and Very Educated,THEY DON'T.....
This is a massive thing for me too!! I lost this discussion at spiritual level, looking at Tom Bilyeu and all who were affluent and not going for kids is soo correct.. I wish I didnt had a life too but my parents didnt had that spiritual awakening !! Life is a problem.. even if you are financially affluent .. everyone has to go through this process of "trauma" and I def dont want someone I love and I am responsible for to go through what I have been
@@Prem-f2uWas your life difficult? What country are you from?
Its not just Japan, its happening world wide and people are waking up. Who would want to being more people into this world when there are so many society problems.
*Laughs/Cries in Africa
Not the African continent my guy. They producing like a factory 😂
I think that applies to everywhere except Africa (from what I know).
@@georgeschultz1998actually 40k is incorrect because taxes compound in tiers here. Would be more like 3 people needing to make 44k working for all 4 to have a 30k income…
@@localguy123 Yet how much worth is one african compared to one japanese?
Strict no working beyond 8 hours, higher pay, promote frequent social events.
Yes and Africa has the highest birth rate
Nothing to do with birthrates in Japan. This is more of a social/cultural issue not this work life balance people keep parroting.
@Interlocutor_ they still need to fix it though
@@Interlocutor_ the overworking is probably still a big factor contributing to the social/cultural issue
I'm 25. If I lived on my own at least 65% of my salary would go to rent. I could barely take care of myself so forget about having a family. My mom had 3 kids at my age.
21 y/o from Germany. Within the last 30 years everything has become 3-5x more expensive, but salaries have only increased by like 20%. It's terrifying, quite frankly.
30y/o from Germany, still living with family.
Half of my money would go to rent alone. Then add up utilities + everything else you need for life.
I am not living on minimum wage either.
If i had a wife and children ( wich i would love too) my wife would have to work full time. There would be barely any time for kids.
@marvintg2002 Yes everything has become more expensive. Prices here have doubled since the pandemic(and they were rising before).
23y/o from the Philippines. Living with my parents and siblings and I pay half of our house necessities such as water, electric, and rent
23y/o from the Philippines. Living with my parents and siblings and I pay half of our house necessities such as water, electric, and rent
Indonesian here, for a minimum wage in my region, 20% goes to rent, about 60% for living expenses is enough. for 20% most people goes for loan for vehicle, or savings, but most spent it anyway
It's ironic that the Japanese worked so hard to uplift their country, and this hard work turned out to be the country's undoing. Only if they had chilled a little.
litterally suffering from success
@@mentaloutonline9876 if it's a success why are they still working long hours for low wages?
@@ME-xc1st Capitalism. Low wages, company loyalty, and long hours are all end goals of Capitalism. When I pay you less and you're still obligated to stick around, I make a bigger proft; that's success.
@@water1374 so the Japanese working hard had never reached success, it's only the wealthy minority that leached off them that did
the irony is staggeing and dizzying.
This isn’t organic, but by design.
No it's organic. It's a unforeseen consequence of late stage capitalism.
@@bobmcbobbington9220 haha you are naive. Unforeseen and organic. What gibberish
By whom?
There are huge number of population in Bangladesh 🇧🇩 But Why there is no population in Japan 🇯🇵
@@bobmcbobbington9220true, and also the one child policy combined with humanity becoming developed. That’s why Cuba and China have some of the worst demographics. Humanity was never supposed to leave the hunter gatherer stage.
Also the way Japan treats mental health issues is a disaster. I would not want to even live there.
source?
Still better than how North America does it. "Here is free drugs, go live on the street".
@@basedneutral1173their rate of suicides for starters
@@basedneutral1173google it. Mental health in Asia is... well, borderline non-existent. Mental illnesses are treated as fake. Anxiety, depression, etc. The only "real" mental illnesses are ones that people will label you as crazy.
@@basedneutral1173i watched a lot of videos from non japanese and japanese people on how they live and what problems society has. Including documentaries. It's not just one particular problem, but a lot.
As far as the youth of Japan are concerned, many feel that it just isn't worth it anymore. Most worry about the rising cost of living and stagnant wages, making marriage and starting a family an inconvenience at best and an impossibility at worst. They may talk the talk, saying that they'll start a family "sometime in the future", but the reality is it's far easier and less stressful to live as a single person. And marriage is only half the issue. I personally know many people, friends and coworkers, here in Japan who have gotten married but have decided not to have kids. So with regards to Japan's declining birthrate, childless couples may as well be single.
Most of them just an anime nerd. Hotel capsule, video games and playing with their carrot, instead of approaching the fine Japanese girls.
Do you live in Japan?@@ad3mn
@@ad3mn OK, but what does that have to do with the points made about rising living costs, stagnant wages, and the additional burdens that producing children will bring?
@@ad3mn and women only going for the top % of men. It's a lot of issues all together.
Aggretsuko was right 😂
After my sister had a baby it was like $28,000 hospital bill
USA ?
@@prashnaveetprasad8339 yep
Is she aware that she could have simply had her baby at home?
She paid $28,000 for convenience.
@@nothanks5846 No, she paid that because she was at work and it just started coming out and then got rushed to the hospital
@@nothanks5846 I got curious it cost $9000 for homebirth
Every year, they never take it seriously, no proper policies implemented to improve the current working condition. But right now they do since the old dude has no young people left to work for them, and it impacts the politician wallet as well.
The xenophobic male Japanese extremely racists in charge will never change.
Old men start it, young men fight it, nobody wins, everybody in the middle dies and nobody tells the truth
The problem is not about working conditions. Back in the day the working conditions were much, much worse, and yet the people had a lot of children. The real problem is very different and has no direct link with working conditions.
@@frankstrawnationyes, the problem is not the working conditions, just the wages and real estate prices (most importantly, the ratio between the two)
@@frankstrawnationwhat is the issue then FRANK?
I was in Japan 10 some years ago. It is unbelievable hard to put your kids into kindergarten. No wonder people do not want to get married and have kids.
why its hard? whats making it hard?
People don't want to work. Even if they work, money goes to high taxes.
@@Bos_Meong Money plus lots of time
@@ViperDivinity thats no different form any country then. Education is expensive.
@@Bos_Meong In the United States we have public education so you don’t have to pay out of pocket
Their government is worried about the birth decline. Yet, is not doing anything to improve work environment, cost of living, daily necessities prices.
Same in every western country
What do you suggest? With 1/3 people being retired, a ton of tax money is being spent on them, and there is a limited pool of productive workers to generate that money. Where should the state get the money to subsidize families?
@@Ruzzky_Bly4t same as everyone suggest. Better living conditions for workers with work life balance.
@ReigoVassal How? Either the employers need to be subsidized, or the workers. Who will pay for that?
@@Ruzzky_Bly4t why should I a citizen should subsidize for it? That's the government job. They're the ones who are responsible for it.
Japan has a very pretentious working etiquette where you're required to work 12-hour shifts only for one company your whole life with unpaid overtime on an average wage. People barely have enough time for themselves after graduating a school. You can't really expect an average person to suddenly have a kid when you're burned out from your job.
they also have this "Drinking time after work" thing and if you don't accept the invitation you'll get scolded, like come on they have wife and kids to cheer up
@@cps1247 I know right? Sora the Troll made a couple of videos addressing these Japanese principles and rules in school and work, it's ridiculous that more people don't look at the whole thing and go "We should change it already".
yes a lot of time is wasted at work not doing anything productive because you cannot leave even if you have no work to do. Similar to investment banking or any competitive winner take all job anywhere in the world. The problem in Japan is its not about performance or productivity but seniority that decides everything.
If you think thats the reason, why western europe known for its benefits, work-life balance and high wages doesnt have more children?
As someone who lives here, you can’t be more wrong.
It was, very bad. It still is “bad”. But the standard working week is 40 hours. The average working week, is around 45-48 hours.
Most people are working 5 day weeks, 9-10 hours a day.
You’d be taking what you know from the internet. I live here, and it’s not that bad.
The Japanese government stepped in and put a change to that.
Our ancestors had kids when they were dirt poor. Its not an economic thing, its cultural. People just don't want kids.
Facts 💯
Our ancestors had hope for the future, people don't have that anymore.
@@jayc342009 nah people nowdays have better understanding of life and sense of purpose, they can get on with life without wanting to have children. Before our generation, the main long term method to cope with life is to give in to your genetically-coded desire to reproduce. Now people don't need that to cope anymore, as they have many better ways.
i think it's both
@@jayc342009 They didn't have hope. They just lacked birth control. Plus there was nothing else women were allowed to do, basically. They got married off and knocked up by 15. Plus about 80% of the population were farmers and you needed child labor for that.
I can just nearly take care of myself
Why would I deliberately add more difficulty to my already stressed life
exactly
with wages now one man can only pay for himself
Besides, why would I put a child in this world to live such life like mine?
True
当你偏爱老年人而不是年轻人时，就会发生这种情况。我猜想，我知道他们想要传统意义上的保守，但完全忽视年轻人，这就是你得到的结果。
Old people should be more humble. They are at the mercy of younger people who are stronger than them. Instead they feel entitled to everything.
real
So u want some help from the govt like the ch!nese govt helped in 2019-2020 by “taking care” of their elderly?
Younger people are creating their own world making life more complex. The older generation you don't have to have a lot of complex knowledge life was simple but you can have a family.
The definition of living companion has changed dramatically as gender war has been fanned constantly by politicians and now corporations. Especially the recent ESG
I see this happening in lots of places. We're more disconnected now than ever. People can't afford to raise childrent with such high cost of living relative to income. And there are just so many issues in the world right now.
I live in Osaka and was surprised by the number of elderly people when I came here. It’s like you can understand easily the number of this video just by walking on the street. The population is aging rapidly . Unfortunately the government seems clueless to solve this crisis. I have three kids and it’s difficult to find nursery in Japan , life is really expensive specially rent and housing are to small to raise kids or you have to live in rural zone where there is no jobs. 30 years ago the man’s salary itself could provide the all family but that’s not the case anymore and both parents have to work to be able to live. Japanese work hard giving their soul for the company so when do they have time to have kids ? 😅
Japan is just heading the rest of the world on population decrease in my opinion because that’s just started to happen in other countries as well.
The answer is in your comment. It’s not about the hours worked, or the conditions, but when you expect women to work then the population goes down and everything becomes very expensive.
@@randomperson5817Women are working because everything’s expensive, having them stop working all of the sudden isn’t going to magically cause everything to be affordable… It’ll be the complete opposite because less money will be spent in a society, leading to an increase in inflation.
Let's all enjoy Japanese culture before it goes extinct.
The suicide rate for white American men began to climb from 1999 to 2013 up 49%. The wealth inequality has never been worse and today in America record numbers of citizens are dying in the streets from lack of food employment and housing, all too expensive or impossible to find. The marginal tax rate on the richest Americans (tax on income above $400,000 annually) in 1954 was 92%, today it is basically nothing. Real estate billionaire Stephen Schwartzman recently bought $1 billion worth of affordable housing units in San Diego, where I live and raised the rents. Homelessness in San Diego went up 23% last year. Wealth inequality greed and Chinese manufacturing are killing the World.
The population in US is declining rapidly as well. Nobody wants to raise kids in such an expensive and corrupt system. As long as the rich get richer, a declining population isn’t really a top priority to policymakers.
That’s funny, cause San Francisco is also losing populations the last few years due to the expensive cost of living plus crimes
reasons SF losing population =/= reasons why Japan is losing population
People are leaving San Francisco. Nobody is leaving Japan, they’re just dying out.
@randomperson5817 if you ignore immigration, Americans are dying out for similar reasons as Japan. Work life balance is better but the younger generations are broke and just waiting for inheritance money
@@Aaron-bh5cpUSA population is still growing will hit 400 million in 40 years.
yes, true.
cost of living, crime, homelessness, and floods of illegal immigrants are big problems in most democrat-controlled cities.
i just left SF bay area, sad, it was a wonderful place to live 25 years ago.
It's feminism not capatliism....women are prioritize work instead of families
I'm sorry men can't even earn enough money to support a family..
@everydayiseveryday4529 that's the effect of doubling workforce
It’s happening not only in Japan but in Korea and China too. This is when the population silently and strongly pushes back against an ineffective government who can’t solve the inequality and can’t provide a better standard of living for the public.
No its a global phenomenon in which developed countries that have gone through long periods of population growth start shrinking. I bet you if you were in a poor country where gathering water from a river manually was the norm, you would see everyone having many children.
Hongkong, Taiwan, Singapore and Thailand also.
Apart from all the myths It's happening in India too our birthrate has hit an all time low of 2.122 (2024), which is the perfect number but the thing is thst it has been dropping just like other countries
Indian is moving towards one child policy
@@davidmella1174that is true, you have freedom to live a life and not to worry about being arrested or shot ( only in USA) by going into land or neighbours front yard in curiosity.
They need to lower the working hours and give time off so that people have time to have social life or family time. Also support single parents raising their children. Maybe change their immigration policy as well.
This is the dillema tbh, their working hours are not that bad. My friend works in Japan, so i know how long they are working. The problem is, what happened after works which is the "bonding" session where they basically hanging out together and wasting so much time..
They seem to be making positive changes, but they are a conservative society and the changes are too gradual (probably should have been done much earlier like a decade ago, these issues have been present for a long time).
@@Shirokuma15garry, you do understand that those "bonding" sessions after work are considered part of work by everybody except the govt in Japan, don't you?
They did lower the working hours though, im working in Japan right now and that's what i've seen, the main problem here are the cost of living that makes everyone think twice to make a family.
@@thechoku9765thechoku, The cost of living has almost no relation to the desire to get married or have a family in Japan.
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Basically, young people don't want the hassle of relationships.
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Part of the driver, is that Japanese believe in Evolution strongly, so see no reason to continue life.
At least Japan isn't destroyed by illegal invasions as they did in Europe, Canada, the United States, and Australia.
Hey, Japan, start helping your people by giving them your support to help create a family.
Except some japanese hate their current view and your view.
Even offered help, they will refuse to make a family
The salary is honestly horrible here. With the average salary being 200,000 yen monthly for new graduates and only increases a few thousand yen every year, I don’t even know how people can enjoy life 😅 Sure, bonuses add up, but compared to the cost of living, it just doesn’t make sense.
I’m in Osaka and 200k after taxes is like 165-170k
Rent for a 1K in a somewhat convenient area that’s not too old in building age is 60-70k monthly
Utilities and wifi and phone bill is another 10-15k. If you never eat out and only buy groceries and daily necessities, that’ll be 20k-25k (for cheap supermarkets).
Those people have no skills, that's why they're making that. Go look up job sites and you will find jobs that pay 10x that that don't ask for anything but skill.
@@edenassos 🤦🏽
@@edenassosyeah... while only 1/10 can fill in that job. 500k is more realistic for average japanese person.
@@edenassosyou make it sound so easy 💀
Yuck, I got 230,000 yen monthly as a new grad as well… well at least they offered me a free rent 1 bedroom
Same problem in Singapore too
Nah, SG can take care themselves, they're small nation that have more friendly approach in immigration and their economy will not soar down because they got the malacca strait, and they're tax haven too so yeah no worries.
Malaysia only effect on their chinese population, not malay. Malay birth rate is growing up steady
Singapore will still attract migrants bcoz of English predominance but not Japan or Korea
I swear the more this goes on I feel like this turning into one of those doujin scenarios where the governemnt implement those odd/weird/wrong laws in action
I have read some of them and I must say I was pretty disgusted. And no, I didn't fap. I may be a degenerate, but even someone like me has standards.
This is the result of the corps treating your citizens as wage slaves.
Forcing people to spend most of the time at work results in limited personal time for the working class, which results in limited time to create bonds and forming a successful family.
All the above plus being in a permanent recession is no wonder why young people see no hope for the future.
how can we afford to have children when salaries go up 4% and the prices up 30%. Foster homes are going out of business. schools are closing across the country, yet more and more houses are being built for no one to live in. shops are going out of business day after day. I live in the UK and what used to be beautiful green fields and countryside now consists of cheap low quality housing, with vape and tattoo shops everywhere you look. it's terrifying.
End is near get right with Jesus.
Inflation is the devil
You forgot to add the charity and pound shops !!
Move to a village
If I could hope for the future of my children to be similar to my parents' youth, I'd gladly have a few. But nowadays I'm wary of my own future, putting new people through this experience seems cruel
government: make more children
also government: time to hike up the prices again
Why would you want to have kids and get married if you can't even sustain your daily needs with your low salary? Nowadays, due to inflation you can barely afford basic necessities with your budget, let alone renting and paying bills.
I'm 30+ and earning average monthly income. I'm not ashamed to admit that I still live with my parents because of how expensive renting an apartment is. Rather than risk it all and at the end of the day, swallow my pride and go back to my parents house. That would be embarrassing.
Until the old folks in our government implement changes to help the millenials and Gen Z, things are gonna get worsy not only in Japan but the rest of the world.
Let’s pool some money and buy land or houses, unfortunately most people aren’t reliable to do that
So you're saying adults can live with their parents forever?
Even if I don't have a place to live, if I had a chance I'd rather live in a car just to at least get something started ya know?
This is such a misleading title for a video. It makes it seems that 800,000 people in Japan went missing.
That was my though lol~ the word "lost" doesn't fit quite well~
As long as your working culture remained the same, don't hope for population growth.
Wow they lost 800,000 people?
They should really try finding them :0
I can tell my humour has deteriorated because this actually made me chuckle
Check the sushi restaurants🤗.
@@malwads1836💀
Worse is that we all know it is not accurate. They still have records of aged people who are already dead but their records are not updated.
XD
And let me guess: real estate prices are at all time high? 😂
It’s actually not. The dwindling population is lowering it and too many people want to live in concentrated fully developed cities. People like to blame everything to cost of living but ignore the fact that, the more educated and prosperous a society is the less they want children, and if they do it’s only 1-2 kids, just enough to replace them. Poor countries have a lot of people working 12 hours a day too and yet likes to have a big family because they serve as a distraction and support for when the kids are big enough to work.
Last time I was in Tokyo was right before covid and even on weekday office hour, schools look deserted and it's not because they all in class, you just can tell how lonely it is
where did they go then?
@@fidelcatsro6948 nowhere, since they were not born at all... Not just Tokyo. Situation has gotten worse in the other areas such as Chiba where I am living now.
people don't like to have kids because it's difficult to handle them. Because of them, they have to sacrifice their freedom for life.
That and I’m just not a kid person and I care so much More about myself. I’m not willing to be miserable for kid I didn’t want or have the proper skills to raise and not mess them up.
Exactly.
That’s not what it is.
Probably means not mature enough.
Definitely happening worldwide but it’s really hitting some countries more than others. Like everyone is saying, it’s expensive to have kids, and it’s hard to find support for all phases of raising a child. From pre and post labour care, to daycares, there are school related fees in the mix too. Plus japan really is very strict about immigration, which probably contributes to how drastic their numbers are.
The population is in decline, corporation greed, taxation and societal benefits will still not adjust to incentive population growth..so yeah its a death spiral.
My son turns three this month, and I found that people encouraging/persuading/urging me to have a second kid in these three years is much much more stressful than the past two decades of them urging me to get married.
It's still manageable financially with one kid, but the balance will be affected if I have a second kid, might as well invest the current resources to my son
The problem is the cost of living that is harder to overcome...
As a Japanese ,I honestly don't understand why everyone is saying Japan"s falling population is a bad thing. I mean it is happening in developed countries everywhere, right?
Phillippines is starting to become one soom
Yes, except the other developed countries do not have such a disproportionate ratio of 若者:高齢者, which is seriously affecting Japan. The drop in population is almost as bad in Korea and Italy, but still not as bad as in Japan.
It is. Fewer young workers equals less income for the country as a whole
That’s because unlike Japan, most countries have many carnal people.
@@Vergil4093hope it's true...
In layman’s terms- blame the old men in Japan.
Why?
@@UserUser-in6ig because they are not reproducing kids.
@@UserUser-in6ig they have a bigger budget to ensure the livelihood of retired forces than to ease the cost of childcare
@@alhanbraga64I'm sure this is absolutely the right approach. Most likely, all countries in the world will come to this. Because over the past hundred years, the world population has increased 3.5 times and continues to grow rapidly. This could lead to environmental disaster and depletion of natural resources.
@@UserUser-in6ig true. but in Japan's case, they're running out of Japanese people
WEF is having a success in Japan.
Bingo.
I really like their 15 min city plan
Hardly. No diversity
What is wef?
@@batgirlp5561 🤦♂️ World Economic Forum. The Klaus Schwab and Soros dudes donating to all politicians supporting their ideals of a NWO
This year's GDP drop is in large part due to exchange rate between dollar and yen. Real GDP in yen has actually grown in this year. I feel bad impression that south china post tries to associate this year's economic shrink with population decline in this year. Arguably in the long run, population decline affects GDP growth negatively though.
At 2:23 when they said that Japan's GDP "shrank by US $4.2 trillion in 2023", they made a huge mistake.
Shut up weeaboo
The yen is getting weaker they have an economic crisis and fell to the 4th largest economy behind Germany. Currency strength also plays a part in GDP especially a weak currency that will make it more costly to import further increasing the cost of living. Their negative interest rates are not helping too.
@@YYLiow china had favored weak currency and had artificially kept it's currency weak for a long time now due to it's massive export oriented economy (there's more profit to be made on export with weak currency). We all have heard this hooblah about Chinese economic collapse fear mongering since before the evergrande housing crisis, none of it had turned out to be true.
On the other hand, china is now taking over most of European exports like automobile due to it's competitive advantage with cheap resources and energy supply. Idk where you heard that Germany is taking over china, latest imf data shows the exact opposite. Ger economy is actually in recession and is greatly suffering from deindustrialization as well as farmer protest all over the nation.
@@far_centristso, since evergrande in 2020, you think none of it is true? Aren’t there enough units to house something like 100m people that are just vacant? Isn’t the stock market down 25%?
That… is showing that the decline isn’t true?
My friends in China would whole heartedly disagree. They own businesses that are lost now. Their savings lost. Banks are defaulting. Manufacturers closing down. Japanese pulling out, Americans pulling out, sending business to Vietnam, Mexico, Brazil.
You can call it fear mongering because of the extent of the fear. But, I’m not sure having enough vacant space to house the entirety of Germany in their empty units, stock market collapsing and people losing their life savings, banks defaulting, more builders defaulting, unemployment is increasing with a more educated middle/lower class, would be looked at as anything but a decline.
This isn’t exactly ‘hooblah’. That is quite real. Whether it will cause a collapse, I’d say no, but, that isn’t fear mongering or hooplah..
This is horrific depletion... However, Japan is hurt at its core. Things like rising costs, hyperindividualism and toxic work culture (e.g. expecting people to work late hours with little to no pay for it) are hurting Japan's working class, who, ultimately, are the masses that will carry Japan forward. Nobody wants to have children anymore (antinatalism is rising, as a response from the world's declining state) and even if they did want, they can't afford it!!!
Working people of Japan, please come to action and pressure your government. The rich will not fix this for you.
It's not just the income. It's literally the cultural rules of interaction. There is plenty of job opportunities, but those jobs need to pay better. There is no opportunity in the rural areas, and they are the hardest hit by population decline and increased elderly.
Geo student here, idk if this happens in Japan. But i learned that, because of high number of dependent population like the elderly, it puts stress on the working population as they have to pay more tax for the gov to continue provide living for the elderly like old folks home or pension etc.
High elderly population is one of the problems tbh 😅 lets not talk abt cost of living and work life there 💀💀
Facts! With all the documents and statements from actual residents of Japan that I've watched, they value elderly more than them young ones and they ask themselves this and that. Let's be real, what could be the elderly can contribute?😅
This happens not just in Japan, but literally in every developed country.
This is the social consequence that comes at the price of being a top economic country
If Japan lost 800K this year, they're going to lose a lot more than 33 million by 2070. The decline will start growing exponentially and 800K a year will turn into 2.5 million in 20 years
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Same problem in Korea
even worse...
@@2kiptwitify Is it actually worse though?
All these comments about work culture, immigration policy, etc. completely miss the mark. Japan's TFR is higher than that of Spain and Italy's and roughly comparable to Greece and Portugal all of which have much less stressful work environments and friendlier immigration policies. In addition Singapore and Hong Kong both suffer from TFR lower than that of Japan even with their highly efficient work cultures.
Genuinely curious, what in your opinion are the real problems and what solutions would be appropriate? I'm not so knowledgeable about Japan's situation so i'd like to hear different viewpoints.
It's just one thing. Their society is also leaning towards isolation of more youth due to social structure.
Shut up weeaboo
Immegration is not solution okk this is stupidity you should focus on your own people rather then immegrant
@@miketess3358 economy is my answer, we all know how the economy is in EU and JP, and factors that contribute to bad economy can be deindustrialisation, plutocracy, US hegemony…. HK has been very overpopulated already and the living expenses are high, Singapore has high living expenses as well, i think lack of natural resources can be a factor (probably even need to import freshwater and food) . And BTW, Japan is also not rich in natural resources.
Marriages have reached an all time low. Yeah that’s because women are supposed to be at home taking care of everything while the man goes out and makes a living but now both people have to go out and make a living and together they don’t earn enough money to live.
They should create schools free of everything. Education fee is the highest expense for every child. Think of the expenses you will pay from nursery to college.
In my country everything is mostly free only if you put them in private then you need to pay up, that’s not the problem imo although most say it is
Where's the money coming from at this point?
@@automnejoy5308the same govt that wants to get out of this mess they created. Pay young people have families thru tax forgiveness, free schools, work from home policies, and housing allowances.... if not, the govt doesn't want to fix the problem at all
@@desmondjefferson2127 But now they're in a position where they have a huge elderly population and less young people to keep the social system going. Who are they going to tax to support the elderly?
@@automnejoy5308 not every couple can have a family, so once a couple of certain age is married, they better start bending over backwards or they are LOST
They gonna pretend they don’t know the cause 😂
2:22 is wrong. It shrank to $4.2 T, not by $4.2 T. Big difference
Work 12h, and still got nothing
What is the problem of having a negative birthrate for a while? You still have 750 thousand people being born every year. Wouldn't the population stabilise at some point?
It will stabilize at 90-100 million, this issue is so hyped, world has bigger problems.
A shrinking population is not bad in itself. The problem is the combination of a shrinking population + population getting older.
In a few decades, Japan will basically be a country full of seniors, which is extremely bad for the economy due to lower consumption + lower number of workers.
If the solution is to just wait then it wouldn't be called a crisis. The reason we can't let that happen is because the current economy requires this many people to be in the workforce to function and certain industries are actually suffering from lack of personnel. If the population continues to decline, we won't be able to support the current economy as it is. Leading to even more declines other than just simply the number of people that are living. Things will literally stop working because there's just not enough people to maintain the current economy. Plus if there are more old people and less young people, that means that the young people will have to pay more taxes to support the old people. Of course this used to not be a problem because sons and daughters used to actually take care of their elderly parents until they pass away, but that is not the norm anymore and even if they do decide to take care of their parents, they probably can't afford it.
Who is going to pay old people pension? Who wants a economy that Is not growing, who wants to buy something is today is worth 10 but tomorrow is worth 8 ect
@@justapleb7096well said, I saw a lot of people asking how is shrinking population a problem in this 7 billion people world 😂
The worse thing to happen to Japan was not their loss in WWII, it was when the Americans forced women's rights on them, that is one of the major things responsible for this demographic decline.
All Corporate staff are expected to work from early morning till night 10.30pm. The tiredness the staff will go home just sleep after dinner. Some staff after dinner continue to work till late night to complete overwhelming work of the day.
Even the slaves got to sleep 😮
South Korea: hold my beer.
It is not only economic and political stressors, it is also environmental stressors. The pollution is also degenerating the reproductive health of humans worldwide.
People. Aren't. Trying. To. Have. Children. Their reproductive health is irrelevant.
things that would fix it:
cheaper housing
shorter work days
tax benefits for married couples
less income tax per child
paid leave after birth.
I wouldn't want a San Francisco population either
Companies are working there People to death who would want to bring kids in this greedy and corrupt world
I swear i never seen actual Japanese commenting on video like this
my japanese imported cat replied: Mushi Mushi
Because most Japanese don't speak English. You need to look Japanese titled videos.
They're too busy working and studying themselves to death.
That's because there aren't that many of them anymore.
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This is the long term result of capitalism, where money comes first in everything.
cuba, north korea and china are facing fertility decline. Are they capitalist? maybe in some essence of their economy, yes. But the factors affecting population growth is not really on political economic position but rather the rapid of change of society norms. If a person is experiencing economic hardship what makes you think they’ll have responsibility to have children? So regardless whether a country lean on capitalism or socialism, you cannot eliminate the factors of people of not wanting children. Because having children mean another task for responsibility.
@@lolololgii754 any link for reference to this statement? I didn't see any news or report on declining births in Cuba & North Korea. In China, it was caused mainly by government ruling.
@@highnizam yes, it is fact, search in any website about population rate of cuba it is decreasing, north korea also does the same. I can’t put a link a here, or else my comment will be deleted.
@@lolololgii754
I would argue that the countries you’ve mentioned-Cuba, North Korea and China-are capitalist too. State capitalism. That is, the means of production is controlled by the state. From a Marxian perspective, I yet have to see a country where the means of production is already in the hands of the working class. I agree however to the last part of your comment “…having children mean another task for responsibility”.
@highnizam
I agree! The population decline is mostly because of the economy, particularly the conflicts caused by current global economic system. One thing about capitalism is that it constantly creates economic crises. One cannot discuss the decrease in population without considering who is benefiting from it and who is paying the price.
Cheers everyone!
Having no children is blessing
One, often overlooked, major contributor is simply what cultural norms are and the influence it plays on a society that values homogeny. The average cultural practice is 1 child--just like in China. In China there is no longer a 1 child policy, but over 90% of all families just have one child. Regardless of whether they can afford it or have time for another child, a cultural norm is ONE.
Second, I would say this is a much bigger issue than people realize (also in China and Korea)--not only is it an unsustainable population metric, but that even if they miraculously fix this problem, there will then be a 10+ year period of time before the fix influences the economy. The return on investment once stabilized will take at least a decade. It's like breaking your arm and being unable to use it for 10 years after it healed.
Of course their birthrate is declining fast... People are working 12, 14 hours.. They have nearly zero vacation, a new capital system that killed their family structures, their grandmothers are commiting crime to go to jail because they can't afford a retirement home, plus the guys don't help when they become so creepy to a point where women are terrified of having a husband now... There's no way their population will increase anytime soon
All these countries had decades to fix this but refused, now paying the price for it.
親の世代とちゃうねん！高すぎんよ
１月40-50万円の俺でも子供なんて無理気がする
"Wow, this video about Japan's population decline is eye-opening! 😮 It's staggering to see the impact of such a significant loss in population
This is what happens when you devalue women.
125 million people on a small island, do you want the population to continue growing forever?
Actually now it's 122 million
The government needs new slaves to keep the economy going.
Japan's population hasn't grown for a long time. It's in rapid free fall.
@@automnejoy5308 is not free falling. That's what governments and corporations want us to believe so we panic. Did you read the estimation that "in 2070, the population will be at least 90 million" which still is too much for such small country land wise?. But at least then, with 90 million people, there will be less competition, more resources, lower house price/rent, and life will be a little more livable than now...
Working class and retired class balance learn the dilemma.
I'm from the Philippines and while it's true that our population is increasing, but it's also true that the expected projection falls short year after year. It may not mean anything right now, but with economic hardships, political concerns, natural calamities and all sorts social issues most middle class couples are thinking really hard about having babies. "In 2020, the tune was changing. The PopCom reported that the Philippines recorded its lowest number of births in 34 years, with only 1,516,042 registered births. This was accompanied by a 13-percent decrease in the number of adolescent births, the sharpest decline since 2003."
What are you talking about? There have always been natural disasters in the Philippines, since the creation of the Earth. In the past, political and economic problems were more serious, for example, remember how the family of di ctator Marcos robbed the country and siphoned taxpayers' money to the United States. But that didn't stop your grandmother and great-grandmother from having about a dozen children.
Ughhh the problem with our country is even if middle class or high class couples dont reproduce, the lower class reproduce so much enough to compensate or maybe exceed what should be normal. I dont see any near future Ph is gonna have problem with birthrates insufficient unless theres war or large scale calamities ofc.
Philippines will grapple the same problem decades later.
Cost of living is killing the world.
The fertility rate in the Philippines is falling fast right now. 🫨🫨🫨
wow, people who cannot afford to pay rent dont want to make family, shocking
I do think this is necessary pause for people. I dont like seeing people with no means, keep having babies. All the while the cost of living is rising, especially in developing countries. It pains me to see kids neglected. So, play along with the world for now
Why would someone get married in the 21st century?
Ok asexual
Love. Affection. Partnership. Meaningful relationship. Social and familial connection. Get help.
@@bobmcbobbington9220 "Roses are Red, Love is Fake. Weddings are funerals with a multi layer Cake"
Why would someone get married in the 21st century?
@@FakenameStevens MGTOW.
imagine losing your family lineage! That's scary!
Do you think some of them know their own family lineage? This is Japan!
you don’t even know your whole family lineage and your worry about someone else family lineage bruh 💀
@@lolololgii754 at least I know some names of my paternal great grandparents and maternal great grandparents.
Cant feed and educate my future lineage is scarier
Meaningless chasing of the wind... doesn't mean anything to me now & definitely won't mean anything once I'm de@d
I swear Japanese politicians make me laugh more than Japanese comedians.
They trying to turn an already crowded island into another Indonesian java is beyond my comprehension, like england with slightly fewer lands have about half lesser population
Meanwhile the Europeans down here giving their "solutions" are an irony to watch😂 literally everything they suggested have turned into a dumpster fire in their country, especially immigration😅
Government should regulate the working hours reduce to 7 hours so that people can have time to socialising.
But their mindset "hierarchy and elderly first" is deadly, you can't go home if your boss does not go home, and the bigger boss does not go home because the director does not go home. In some cases they beat up workers physically or verbally like it is a normal thing.
@@ImranHazimAzhar that is like korean in the 90s.
This doesn't look so bad as the media wanted it to.
In this day and age where the workers are expected to take care of the elderly through taxes and whatnot, if there’s not enough workers, then not enough money for the economy
Most jepenese are old hags sooo😂🤣
Bruh u aren't watching a war movie where 800k loses doesn't sound bad. This is not as simple. U just need to have some knowledge about how things works generally in a society
I mean they got 750k babies in 2023 while the deaths is 800k, so that is -50k in population, that's heavy especially for world economy rank 3rd Japan.
Bro they're on verge of wiping out as a country
People in first world countries know how expensive it is to raise a child and understand the concept of birth control.
Indeed
Happiness is a contributing factor ,people of today are working harder and can barely maintain themselves let alone a family or children