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- This week, South Korea broke its own world record for the lowest birth rate in the world.
230,000 babies were born there last year, in a country with a population over 50 million.
But declining birth rates isn’t exclusive to South Korea, with the trend affecting numerous countries across the world - including the UK.
The BBC's Analysis Editor Ros Atkins has been looking into this.
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Let's not forget the other reason why birthrates are declining, especially in Japan, South Korea and China, and that is the demands that employers put on their workers. You can't work people to death and expect them to have the time and energy to meet, date, marry and procreate. Who would want to bring a child into that climate?
Most of my Japanese friends only have one or two kids, but they want more, the only issue is that their husbands come home exhausted and don’t want to have sex at all. My girlfriends, when we get together, will talk about that often. Makes my heart hurt for them, because they rarely see their husbands at all, but when they come home it’s straight to bed, then straight to work.
Inflation is also the biggest factor, the reason some people not wanting to have more children is simple, MONEY! When you don't have enough money to sustain child care and your kid's college, parents are more likely to have 1 kid and that's it, 2 or more is already a challenge. Education, clothes and food to put in their mouth are the primary challenges to fulfill via money but gets reduced due to inflation.
I am a foreigner working in China. Chinese law stipulates that the working hours are a max of 40 hours per week. Many people want to work more and many do. Employers can be fined for forcing workers to do more hours than their contracts state and all workers have to be paid double their hourly rate for any hours worked over the limit.
@@teflerchina.2987 only in the foreign cooperation
@teflerchina.2987 You are right China is a champion of workers rights. They have the safest working conditions in the world. Chinese factories are the safest places to work.
Politicians acting like it's rocket science behind falling birth rate while they make bank profitting off the younger generations.
Politicians or the investor class?
@@FlyingImmortalis there a difference?
Democracy is to blame. It leads to the female vote. Which leads to reproductive rights. Which puts the birth rates below replacement level. This leads to mass migration and population replacement
How to spot a zoomer
Nailed it
The Baby Boom was engineered: Step 1: Create jobs that 1 parent can work, that cover the expenses of the entire family, and only require a High School education. Step 2: Create cheap starter homes than even 22 yr olds on their first job can afford.
That is it, those 2 steps created the Baby Boomers.
Today, we are in University accumulating debt for 4 - 8 years. Then we are paying outrageous rent while trying to save up for a first home. Nobody builds unprofitable starter homes anymore, and the average home price is so high as to require an intergenerational mortgage to finance. No kidding nobody is having kids. By the time you can afford kids financially, you can't have kids biologically.
So well said!
You have summed it up perfectly.
Incorrect. The Baby Boom was a consequence of warfare concluding. Historically population growth increases after a long war, due to the returning number of fighting males to their settlements. You can NOT engineer growth, you can only engineer away from decline in the best of times.
Can you prove the baby boom was this engineered? Otherwise, BS.
Very good response
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The wolves are upset the sheep won't reproduce.
Not really, eugenics is in full force in the United States... You don't abort 600,000+ babies every year and say the wolves want more sheep...
The wolves are exploiting the inferior for the body parts of their unborn children...
They are inferior because they can't afford children...
@sandponics You are being ethnically cleansed...
Hahaha true that.
@@emead528upset that woman don’t want 10 kids
It's very exhausting to work full-time outside the home and work full-time inside the home. This is the reality for a lot of women.
And men luv
@@MixologistMiloNot really. This is specially a widespread issue for women in countries with falling birth rates. In South Korea and Japan with the lowest birth rates, their brutal education and work sytems require women to work full-time as men do, but all work within the home is seen is seen as exclusively as a womens work. So both work equally hard, but childcare, cleaning, cooking, groceries, laundry, appointments are delegated to women, exclusively.
Yep, women are forced to do more then what we can complete. We are burned out
@@mspaint93
Well that'd explain the low birthrates in South Korea. But not in western countries where men do just as much housework.
@@MrNote-lz7lh But they don't do just as much housework, as a populous. You can look into the endless studies done on this where (again, on average) in a household with two full time working parents, the mother does the majority of childrearing and housework.
How are we supposed to start families when both men and women need at least 2 jobs just to not be homeless?
No problem. Bring in people from Sudan. They have nothing, but their average fertility rate is 4.5 children per woman. They will be homeless, but apparently they don't care 🤷♂
This.
Add to the fact if someone has health issues (like myself) especially chronic ones how the hell can they then manage more stress / responsibilities than they already have ?
For me, I have to constantly go to doctor appointments, get tests and procedures done every now and then and still have to balance my 40 hour work week.
No way could I manage children / additional responsibilities. Maybe it’s just me though.
maybe get an education?, so you can have a high paying job ? Hard to have a good life, if you plan to have minimum wage jobs
@@mabuhayproductionltd3627 You want to tack on tuition fees on top of everything else?
Nobody was talking about minimum wage jobs to begin with.
@@2l84me8 You get what you vote for? Why would you Pay for tuition at all? Its Free and in fact you get paid to get an Education. It sounds like bad planing and i have no idea what iam doing thing. Good luck (maybe sell your Guns ?)
As a 38 year old British man with above average income, I don’t even feel like I could afford to raise a child with any degree of certainty. I haven’t even bought a house yet. Half of my friends are in the same position. If politicians really care about this issue, they’d fix the housing crisis, the cost of living crisis, the economy and create some prosperity for their own citizens.
Same situation in the US. 37 yr old male, decent income, still can’t afford a home, let alone a family.
British man with above average income. Please travel the world. You will realise the problem you're having can be fixed somewhere else. I guarantee you that. Your income can make you a king somewhere in Africa, you just need to accept change.
@@TitusBiwot Way ahead of you 😏 I recommend this to people who feel trapped as well
You're in a better position to raise children than 99% of humans who have ever existed so I don't get what you're complaining about. My grandparents were raising children in a country where there was civil war. For me to say I feel uncertain about having children in 2024 Britain would be pathetic.
Imagines how we are in ASIA…where 70% of world population lives… we have bigger problems than worry for 1st house … most people are going hand-to-mouth on the daily basis .. 😢
Stressed animals don’t breed. Simple as that.
That and some ''help'' from the western diet and the jabs . But i have to mention some factors in nature the will infect to reproduce , less magnetic field , more cosmic rays and thats not the only effect on the life on the planet .
Nailed it
Also cultural issues in the west, I don’t believe this poverty leads to less children otherwise historically most of the world would have had low fertility rates but they didn’t, a large part of this is the fact that western cultures do not put emphasis on pride on one’s self and duty to bloodline whilst countries like Israel do.
You're right. It's so stressful to live a life because of inflation.
@@2trappy2Looking a bit more into Israel’s birth rate. It looks like it can mainly relate to the original comment. Israel has a few exceptional policies which make it easier to balance work/education and personal life. Also they fund fertility treatments which is huge for women who choose to have children later in life. So it seems making it so growing a family is a smoother experience really does contribute to stable fertility.
Maybe it's because people can barely afford to live and feed themselves never mind a child aswell
Thank you, finally some facts!! I suspect that gay people no longer being forced to hode in our closets and play straight probably has an impact as well. In the 50s it was common for gays to have to hide, and so they'd marry a woman and procreate, often with great disgust, whereas now we can be more or less free to live our liges and not ever have to touch a breeder.
This is the most important reason
Totally agree, me 2 @@realpolitics527
This 100%. The system is against real people who might want to have kids.
That's no problem whatsoever in other parts of Asia, along with Africa and parts of the US.
No one wants to admit the real reason, we are no longer going to tolerate a difficult life. No one wants to STRUGGLE like everyone else in the past did
Once you have money, you don't want to ever be poor again.
If you raise children the same way as before, you will be criticized nowadays. Too much responsibility and burden now.
It's called feminism,.
@@UKVeteran2024 Many feminists have kids.
I know, there will be a time, when a child grows up and will require to be self dependent on themselves and will need to tackle their way through all that life will throw at them.
And due to all the stress, difficulties and sufferings that child who will grow up to be an adult, will say to themselves: " why did my parents bring me into this world, filled with tragedy, calamities and so much turmoil!"
It's true that, one of the biggest reason why today's couples are deciding against bringing life into today's world, is how much suffering already is taking place. And they don't want their offsprings and the offsprings of their offsprings to suffer through all the burden that's existing in the world today!
🤯🤯🙇🙇🙇🙇🤷🤷🤷
All of these over paid people scratching their heads about why the birth rates are down is pretty typical. It is a nightmare to live on this hellscape of a planet and try to care for children. Every country on this planet has turned being a parent in to one of the hardest jobs you can possibly have and you are still expected to work full time or more to survive. Costs for everything are through the roof. Only the people who really really badly want a family are having kids.
Nature can be wonderful if we treated fair.And the people that have no control over their lives.
Notably, the well off fertile couples have small families
bro what
Well, having half-baked ambitions of raising a family could arguably be just as detrimental if not more
@@YouBuggingOut It's a hellscape, a HELLSCAPE!!! im literally on fire right now sitting on my comfy air conditioned couch posting on youtube. /s
Government: We are going to make everything expensive
Also government: Strange, why is no one having kids?
More like, Government: things are expensive but people won’t complain or notice
Not just the government. Dont forget your big corporations. Walmart and its ilk who make billions and still have the spine to ask for a 2$ donation to help fight hunger they and their fellow modern day slavery camps created.
Government: the rich are doing great why are people complaining🤔
I also don't see business complaining about their profits while they jack up prices.
Governments don't control the cost of goods and services. The problem is corporations need for perpetually higher profits.
We can’t bloody afford to have kids. Have you seen the cost of living vs wages?
Why would you want to bring a child into this world when there is so much madness and badness going on?
The world has never been a perfect place though. Most of history has been a story of struggle in one way or another, yet our ancestors had some of the highest birth rates.
@PeggyPearlB The reason you mentioned is why they had many kids, so atleast some of them can survive.
Exactly
People used to not to think Do they want kids, they just had them, cause it was socially expected.
Scientists have already declared Planet Earth to be dead!
Having a kid is like getting a job that you have to pay for instead of getting paid😂
brilliant!
You're getting paid in many European countries and people still don't want kids.
@@jojoball11Yeah all that welfare and standard of living to have the birth rate 1/8 of a slum in Bangladesh
Like university education
@@jojoball11 you cant buy another generaration of slaves from us.
It is simple, greed is going to destroy humanity. Companies have stopped being loyal to their workers and customers. Their only goal is to make obscene profits while paying as little as possible and providing as little value as possible.
Keeping wages and benefits low. Buying up property and making housing unaffordable. Charging more for goods, while providing less to their customers.
Basically, people at the top put profits above humanity.
And there you have it.
And that's why, eventually, workers and customers will do the same - not having kids increases profits.
I really think this is the core of the problem...we are in an end game where ever more profits go to ever less persons like in a play of Monopoly we used to play...
That summed it up perfectly.
Literally the root of all the socio-economic problems. Imagine if people were able to live quietly and peacefully but we are apparently not ready for that yet.
Hmmmmm, want more babies? Make it financially viable
Absolutely correct
Who’s going to pay for your pension
@@1jakedizzlewho's gonna pay for the children right this moment
Exactly. I think this is the elephant in the room. How is it that with technological advancement we have become materially worse off than our parents before us.
They may make it as viable as they want, I'm not falling for it
It means less starving kids
Exactly this. Birthrates were higher in the past because child mortality was high and parents had babies so they could put those children to work...
@@crazitacomost kids are born in the third world not the first so technically more kids are suffering
But they make more money off the starving ones…
@@wussrestbrook1200Third world doesn’t automatically mean they’re suffering. Just as first world doesn’t always mean prosperous people. It’s just another way of dividing humans.
Exactly
I don't see a problem with fewer humans.
Until you call a plumber or someone to fix your roof, with limited competition.
@@michaelellringer5600well that's an easy one to answer, less plumbers and less humans means your issues can be focused on with less competition for appointments
@@michaelellringer5600better environment
Well one another corona...and humanity is clean...
Well if you don't like humanity to continue living then it is okay.
@@michaelellringer5600unless you are a plumber.
Good let it stay that way
Cant speak for the UK but in the US we cannot afford housing, groceries are overpriced, there are microplastics in the water and our bodies and the world is getting warmer due to climate change while politicians have climate change conventions in oil producing countries. At what point would we be expected to have and raise children only for them to have no opportunities when they arrive?
The UK has all those things but worse. More expensive housing, groceries and energy. Significantly lower paying jobs too.
At least we have free healthcare, but that’s also overwhelmed.
same in the uk. In america your poverty is much worse but your middle class is very rich compared to the UKs middle class. We earn terrible wages and have extortionate taxes. Drs, nurses, teachers, military officers, policemen all live their entire lives in poverty in the uk
You can have lots of children on $2.00s a day! Yeah ,but there's that pesky feeding and clothing them and of course they're going to want shelter! Get real even livi g a modest life children are too expensive.
Remember when we got computers and more automation and we thought we would work less? Instead we work more than ever. There's never a sustainable equilibrium of contentment. It's a never ending push for more profit, more "productivity", more work. But even with so much work, cost of living is sky high and only getting higher, and purchasing power has plummeted. On every turn, we get taxed or charged for something. People have no time and no money to have children.
Not necessarily a push for more profit, but there's way more competition than there used to be.
I thought efficiency would mean less work as well. how naive I was back then..
Yeah, I’m fed off of old rich men saying why ppl are not having kids compared to the poor past.
It’s because raising a child to the standard of a ‘productive worker’ is very difficult and expensive nowadays.
As the economy and technology developed, Parents should now sacrifice most of their wages for the high education of next-generation workers.
Computers have made doing anything more complex and confusing - also much more time consuming. I know people who closed their businesses when they found that computerization added 2 hours to each and every one of their work days. It simply was no kind of life being slave to the digital monster. Complexity for complexity's sake is destroying society.
it bothers me like hell whenever i hear male business leaders (ie. elon musk, tucker carlson) preach about we should have more babies when it is very obvious that they DID NOT have to do any of the work actually raising the kids and they DID NOT give birth to the kids.
They mean WHITE BABIES.
I've never heard Tucker Carlson say something like that without prefacing it with the relevant issues at hand like housing, low wages, and government disincentives.
Do you expect middle-class moms to stand in front of the world and present these insights instead?
It doesn't matter who says it. They are discussing demographic trends and their implications.
I have heard women talk about how other people need to have more kids. That includes a rich, child-free lesbian businesswoman who said that other women should have more kids so that she will have more workers and customers.
honestly idk about tucker, but i do know elon procreates like a rabbit
I had a Vasectomy with no kids at age 27. 16 years later at age 43, I am so glad I did it! The World is stressful enough alone!
Very well done sir! I'm planning of getting vasectomy too. Was it painful?
@@Tailsthef0xPAINLESS!! A finger prick is more painful than a Vasectomy!!
Você é um idiota.
You're a hero in my book! Age 67, no kids intentionally.
Funnily enough, I was also 27 when I had my vasectomy. (Didn’t hurt at all)
I’m now 60 yrs old and I don’t regret it one bit.
Just doing my bit for over population
Children are relatively too expensive in the economic environment.
Not for the Muslims. Look at the Palestinians. They can be fed by the tax dollars from the western countries.
plus bringing a child into this society? questionable itself
@@bloodlove93 because EVERYTHING has to be political, everything.
Pre feminism they were affordable
@@UKVeteran2024true only to live in poverty and domastic violence
Humanity will survive.
You can't just expect sensible people to have more and more children if they can't accommodate themselves, feed, educate, etc their kids.
Humanity will survive yes, but our country/culture/civilization may not. Other civilizations that have a more balanced approach to life will simply take over.
Of course people can raise 2 kids on 1 income. People are wasting money on luxuries and talking about affordability. Did your parents/ grandparents purchased phones every year, did they go on expensive vacations every year, did they eat out almost everyday ? In contrast, compare how you are living.
@@White-nl8td I don't buy new phones every year. Eating out as a single person in some countries is actually also cheaper than cooking at home.
@@Epiphany_nz no, eating out cannot be cheaper than cooking at home ever. The restaurant have to purchase groceries, pay the cook workers, pay taxes and on top of that make atleast 25% profit. In contrast, cooking at home only requires you to purchase groceries and spend the time to cook. Your problem is you are not at home to cook whilst running around for your career.
@@White-nl8td# Lots of people need to run around to make a living.
If you are eating in expensive restaurants, yes your point apply.
But what I'm talking about is if you've been in places like the biggest industrial countries like China and India and look how the locals eat and their Takeaways/street food, you'll see that it does not cost as much for them if you compare the costs of food per person to the west.
Our obsession with economic growth has destroyed our planet. Less people means less resources used and more balance. I also think we'd all be happier in a less busy world and with less of a fight for resources.
Spot on. Permanent growth is the modus operandi of the cancer cell.
Wars caused by the west ruined our planet and lives. Say the truth.
Resources are fininte
Moronic argument.
Aging population + low fertility rates + welfare State = disaster.
In order for a welfare State to function you need children.
Unless you want to abolish the welfare State or make 80 years work then this is just privileged thinking on your part.
Don't care, I'll never have kids. Then I'll be dead!😂
Ok, have a nice day
I'd rather go through whatever bs this world is going through than worry about my hypothetical child going through it.
Oh I know. You are having a real hard time now, on youtube. It's tough man. That facebook isn't going to scroll itself, ya know.
@@bobmcbobbington9220 It's called a lack of job security. People watch TH-cam to pass the time and avoid spending money.
@@bobmcbobbington9220 Do you watch T.V? How is the OP watching a video on youtube, any different than you watching a show on T.V?
@@bobmcbobbington9220 you dont know him. Stop projecting.
In the UK you can't realistically expect People to afford to have children let alone many children with the stupid costs of living. By the time newborns are old enough, buying an average house is probably gonna cost half a million
The funny thing is that if you work you can't afford children. When instead if you don't work you can have as many as you want.
$800,000 for a middle class house in Los Aneles.
@@dvdsblthose that don’t work and have kids, just don’t care about them and/or know they will get bumped up the councils housing list the more kids they have
@@dvdsbl I suppose so, but you'd live a hard life
Well, if there is a shortage of new families, the price of housing should decrease as there will be fewer buyers. If it's important, government(s) can set up trailer parks so that young families can build equity and still have location flexibility. If there are any charges associated with healthcare, they should be dropped for pregnant woman and children; likewise, children should not pay to ride public transport.
World population has gone from one billion to 8 billion in 220 years - that’s insane!!!
You can thank China and India for that
@@5starlifestyle555yes because we dint had civil wars or any kind of major diseases
@@5starlifestyle555add up the populations of India and China, and subtract that from 8 billion. It isn't just those countries
@@5starlifestyle555 China has a one child per family for decades. If they hadn’t the world’s population would be even larger.
Peoples got to wise up and stop being such more-ons
It means less slaves to the rich and less tax revenue generators.
Yep, expect with a sudden downfall, government really becomes less corrupt and riches understand you can't actually drain all the population's money, you can't be this agressive onto fullfiling your greed
Why tf would I want to bring a child into this cruel, expensive and stressful country.
If u don't want to reproduce stop reproducing your ideology and stfu. Some of us want to fix the world not sit around and watch it burn.
There's no need for excuses because if you don't want to have kids you shouldn't have to. A stranger online basically telling you as a woman it's your place to struggle just to have kids who will struggle with you doesn't care about you or children.
@JG-MV The US doesn't offer paternity/maternity leave, nor does it have a good healthcare system that won't leave you straddled with debt once the baby is born. Retirement probably won't be a thing once OP is older and shootings and mental Healthcare isn't taken much more seriously than it needs to along with climate change and AI. Why would anyone have a kid with those conditions?
@JG-MVshit is expensive there are excuses. And people can’t do anything about birth rate because u can’t force anyone to have kids
Excuses. If you be a good parent to your child that's enough. They will thrive well.
It is a bad deal for women to endure pregnancy, labor and delivery, post-partum pain, and the incredible hardships of raising a child. In many cultures at any time you may go through a divorce and being totally compromised the rest of your life.
Well, if the burden is more than you can bear, you can always surrender the child. If the child is under two, there would be little or no problem "placing" the child.
@@GilmerJohnthere are not enough people who are willing and capable to take on other's people failures to bear on forever.
@@14margott -- Well, the system may well collapse some time or another. But if you as a business or a person are sitting on a pile of money you either but "stuff" (toys, gold, land) or loan it out. Timing is everything.
@@GilmerJohnlol why have the child in the first place? 😂 your solution is so stup¡d
Avoid pregnancy, avoid ruining your body and suffering post partum depression or psychosis 🙌🏻
@@MM-we4nolol. He suggested that bc chidren with no mothers are easy pickings for men. Notice I don’t say predators. I said MEN. Bc men, their biology is PREDATOR. That means the ALL are. Easy pickings. They get you to abandon your child and now easily traumatized and singled out for their sexual deviancy.
Declining birth rate means less slaves.
That’s why I think the republicans taking away women’s right, less slave labor if a women has a choice
Exactly
It means the people who have children will inherit the earth.
It means Islam will rule the world and feminism and everything the left cares about will be in vain because they didn't care to sustain the population and allowed their society to collapse.
It also means extinction 😂
More migrants! Less abortion! More slaves! Less money!
Means less starving people. Less struggling.
the sheep no longer want to reproduce, now the wolfs are angry LOL
Yep!
The sheep are becoming rams..
True
The wolves will import in goats to replace you
@@nixonesport1998 someone that's not born can't be replaced
It's a sick society(worldwide). Why would any thinking person want to condemn any more children to this world.
That's one way to put it I suppose
Exactly!! There is already enough orphans or children with crappy parents who neglect them or abuse them. Why bring more suffering into this wreched insane planet.
Yet the birthrates are the highest the worst places to live, such as Chad & Somalia.
If that's you attitude then it's a good thing you don't want to ave kids.
I said any thinking person @@GilmerJohn 🤣🤣🤣
I dont understand why anyone sees a problem with lower birth rates.
I see it from an environmental perspective... our overpopulation has already caused climate change and species extinction. Overpopulation is massively impacting wildlife and excelerating environmental decline. In the UK, we have a housing crisis which we can't build our way out of without decimitating our green spaces and overloading infrastructure and social facilities. A lower population is not just good, it's very essential.
Rich people will have fewer indentured servants so they're panicking.
The problem is in countries where there is a growing aging population, there aren't enough young people to support them, not just through taxes to pay their pension but also with all the services that old people need. It's becoming unbalanced in many countries. It affects the quality of your life if you live in a country with a declining population.
Mother nature is just correcting itself.
The issue is that you will have one grandchild per four grandparents. Elderly people can't work after a certain point, nor support themselves. You'll start seeing old people dying in the streets. Governments will become insolvent trying to support them.
This kind of change is only bad because it's happening suddenly. If it happened over a couple centuries it would be a better thing. But not for it to happen suddenly.
A Lower population may be good but a declining population is not. See the difference?
People keep wondering by birthrates are falling but nobody seem to be able to give people a good reason to have children.
I'd much rather enjoy my life.
So, you think enjoying life is what, not having a family LOL!
@@CrabFilesnot having kids does not equate not having family . . .
the sad truth is even if you don't have kids it is impossible to enjoy life purely in this economic crisis
I work full time+overtime.
Money is already tight for myself only. I have no desire to be even more broke than what I am now.
Spot on
Who will inherit your money 💰when you die. So it's nice to have a child and pass on your legacy and inheritance ❤
@@vinucini4341one could always will it to charity or a school
@@vinucini4341he just said he doesn't have any money you boomer
@@vinucini4341 these old people, man... mate, stop being a knucklehead.
They wouldn’t be declining if people could have their own house and live on one income like their parents could. We can’t start a family in rented apartment as it’s already hard to pay
By the time you can afford kids financially, you can't have kids biologically.
Precisely.
The births are declining in well off countries with strong economies. The poor countries where living conditions, healthcare etc are nowhere near the levels of the developed countries have no birth rate problems. That would indicate that the developed countries are too self centred to consider anything that would change their comforts like having a baby.
@@ubaldobezoari8652 I want to agree with you ubaldo, but there is a bit more. It also implies you need more to live in a developed country.
Housing in some developed countries consumes 50% of income. Then people need transport to get to work. And most developed countries do not have the grandparents living at home providing free child care.
Developed countries have modernized themselves out of having kids. So undeveloped countries will export their people to developed countries to make up the shortfall. This will be interesting to watch.
I hope the world stays peaceful.
@@john_doe_not_found Perhaps.
But in poor countries, having another mouth to feed is a giant impact. In the developed countries, having a baby means cancelling the Peloton subscription, some nail appointments, some facial treatments, keeping your car for a couple more years, and not going to Marbella, but Málaga for a couple of weeks.
The corporations are panicking
I know...
Good let them panic!
"Our slaves wont breed anymore!"
- Corporations and the elites
Yes. They worry they won't have enough work slaves for their business.
@@catherinep3999won’t have enough consumers either
It means that this world gets to finally breathe again.
yes global population is still increasing! "some countries" have high birth rates - no mention of these "some."
@@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 Yep, but not for long, "crisis" is hitting other countries too. And also, our calculations need to be revised regularly, at this rate, populations will shrink (some will early, some will later), but by 2100, every population would already have shrank to 3/4 or half of it.
@@thallesalmeida5880 So you are not aware that over 90% of the arctic ice is gone already as per volume? That there is 1200 gigatons of pressurized methane in the world's largest ocean shelf - East Siberian Arctic Shelf - and an "abrupt eruption" is already starting? That there's already 500 extra zettajoules of heat in the oceans and this is starting to release? We already cooked Earth and the "biological annihilation" is accelerating. As the physics professor who gave the same lecture 1000 times in person emphasized - exponential growth on a finite planet definitely will lead to zero population growth.
Greatest news of the century.
They only mean one thing...trump, biden, pootin step aside, God wins...don't waste your time any longer...
I dont want kids and I am not selfish. No thanks and most people I know feel the same way.
I’m the same way!! I never, ever want children and I hope I eventually find a wife who feels the same way.
And whoever thinks it’s selfish to not have kids clearly doesn’t get that it’s not their business to tell us to be parents when we simply don’t want to!
@sirclassicalhou3650 there's quite a few women who don't want children. Nearly 60 and never wanted a child. Never regretted the choice
I wouldn't want to expose a child to this miserable and depressing world
Given the choice, I never would have come here either
Why are you still here then??
@@TheAArmstrong To be a thorn in the side of humanity 😁
@@SamuelBlack84 nice 😎
Lol. I like being the fifth column too
GOD has chose you to raise your status after this if you do good
Who in their right mind would want to birth a kid into a world that looks as it does at the present?
What's wrong with the world?
This is so dumb. The world right now isn’t in a good condition, but it’s still better than 99.9% of human history. If you live in a western country this is not an excuse at all
@@puppetmaskerrseek Jesus bro
@@puppetmaskerr Lots of things. The rich don't pay taxes, wars in some countries, low wages, climate change (I don't want my hypothetical children to deal with that), technology is taking jobs away, water is predicted to be scarce in the future, and probably more things I don't know about.
@@AntonioRios3 i understand but that belies the fact that countries with the least freedoms/most poverty have usually superior birth rates. Ww2 countries and even america during the great depression did not have this. Clearly the problem lies elsewhere.
I would not bring children in todays world it’s a tragedy
No one asked to be born😢
I can see Anti Natalism is popular here
Anti-natalism all the way
It’s a tragedy and a comedy simultaneously.
@@eugenenarvi6668 There's a word for that kind of fusion: Satire
Coming from the UK, where a single bedroom apartment in my area costs £350,000, which requires at least a £65,000 salary, there's no way it's feasible to have children and live a decent life. It's hard enough without children.
I moved to the north east of England, 350k can get a 5/6 bed detached. I know its not possible for everyone but its an option.
@@Jonnyicey Fair enough, but the issue is that there aren't many job opportunities in the North-East of England, because our country is insanely unequal. I suppose if you land yourself a decent and secure remote job, it might be a good idea. Even then you're still leaving behind your social network from home.
Dang, that’s a lot. Must be hard to live in your country.
Declining birth rate means less overpopulation. Right?
we can hope...which should mean less demands on industry for supplying consumers ergo better environment.
i mean holy crap, just look at any 5 "super foods" to see the awful conditions those workers are under and how little they get paid....acai berries would be better off unknown to most the world, with less people, less of these people would have to work such awful jobs.
Yes but it takes many decades to get there. By that time, us 8 or 9 or 10 billion might have already completely destroyed the environment.
It will take a very long time unless we cut all the medical supports to elderly.
Right. It's good news, although it won't impact us right away. The less people, the more resources, jobs, and opportunities.
@@jeansherwood2428 Thank you for your consent. ❤
Less kids equals a smaller population and fewer people fighting for limited resources.
And more space for the other sentient beings we share the planet with. Flora and fauna that has evolved over a far greater number of years than humans have deserve to thrive and survive. I love how no one ever considered them in these discussions. A world of only humans and industrial scale animal farming to feed them is stuff of horror movies.
No one who is Intelligent or kind would have a child in this economy
Well said. My sentiments exactly
True
that comment was neither intelligent, nore kind.
people who think like this do not realize how a demographic decline will affect standards of living across the board
@@ryansuryoatmojo1770 Why should I care about that when I can't afford for myself a life, even less for a child???... Why should people who don't have a stable economy have a kid?? It is going to be worse for the kid
Who cares. The Earth will be happy when people stop trampling on it.
good point
The way some people talk about this, they make it sound like countries' populations will go extinct. I get the impression populations are just stabilizing after decades, arguably centuries, of growth.
its a bigger issue than you think. as the birth rate declines, the median age increases.
an older population means less people that are at a working age, and more people requiring healthcare. and less working people means retirement age could increase, which is already happening in some countries. an older population also causes the society to think less long term. only voting for short term policies and not caring about the new generations
Italys and South Koreans countries actually might disappear.
Your comment shows the ignorance of the average midwit
@@lewis0705so capitalism will collapse - which I don’t even know why we’re fighting for it so much because it’s screwed most of us.
But humanity is not going to go extinct
Even if we don’t go extinct certain nationalities and the “west” will be replaced by Africans and latin Americans.
On a economic level fewer birth rates means fewer workers that means fewer money in the economy and results in deflation and in turn high unemployment and also probably means the elderly will be left to die alone (already happening) ect
We will adapt. The planet does not need so many people.
Nature can be wonderful if we treated fair. No one is talking about what the plant can a afford
We don’t need so many Africans and Arabs. We need more Europeans
@@mattmccallum2007You already caused 2 world wars and are about to start a third with your silly NATO expansion and provoking Russia and China. Let’s see how other races fare without your warmongering.
They’ll simply ship in Africans and Arabs and replace you, oh, they currently are
Agree! Enough people in this planet!
And this planet will heal from so much abuse and pollution.
Not so fast. Sadly Natural selection means Africans will become the majority 100 years later since they have the most kids and the population would increase again. For context Africa makes up 18% of the world pop today but by 2100 it would make up 39% of it
@@tunisian_stats u sure u not talking about hispanics?
@@sacredgeometry4196 nope africans reproduce much more their population doubled in the last 20 years. It’s
mainly because they are poor
@@tunisian_stats There is famine and poverty in some countries in Africa. What is the lifespan of Africans?
Will there be quality life in a world with climate change?
They say there will be extreme drought in Africa because of climate change.
And who the hell will be around to even notice? I'm sick of this hatred of humanity and false love of Gaia.
less people = less pollution
More for everyone else, too.
But less too ! Without kids, no economic development + growth long-term? So less money + workers to pay for the service's . All couples should have 3-4 kids . Not about charts + computers. Without workers, no growth + service's. Leads to less for everyone.
Humanity lives in a golden age? Because of technology + medical healthcare, manufacturing we can build sea cities + alot resources in the solar system. Idea of that people should have less in a time when we need to build more is pointless. By the year 2040s, problems will be seen in every countrie on earth. Kids make economic growth + development happen, not old people.
@@FredHousehold to build more...what? Why? For whom?
= less money for healthcare
We need a better distribution of wealth. It’s crazy that companies have so much and the majority in the world are struggling.
3Billion starving people, but people are bragging about trillion dollar companies and worshiping billionaires
Communism has been tested numerous times. It doesn't end well.
In 2007, the 3 richest people in the world were wealthier than the 48 poorest nations combined. In 2017, it was estimated that the richest 1% of people in the world had as much money as the other 99% of people combined. While the rich get richer and the poor get poorer it’s highly unlikely that there would be a better distribution of wealth under the current system of government. Even if everyone had sufficient money to live comfortably, there are many very serious problems threatening the existence of our beautiful planet and all life on it. World leaders have clearly shown that they are totally incapable of resolving these problems which just get worse with each passing day. The only solution is God’s Kingdom which is God’s heavenly government that will very shortly take over the rulership of the earth solving all of our problems once and for all. (Luke 4:43) It’s going to bring about wonderful conditions on earth. Every person will have his/her needs lovingly cared for. (Isaiah 65:21, 22) Tears of sorrow will be changed into tears of joy! (Revelation 21:4)
It'll NEVER happen- greed and corruption are endemic.
@@Jen-lg4hp I understand your pessimism. From a human standpoint things look hopeless, but our Creator has a purpose for our beautiful planet and all life on it, including us. Very shortly, he’s going to make drastic changes on the earth by removing all human governments along with greedy, corrupt people. (Daniel 2:44) At Proverbs 2:21, 22 he tells us, “For only the upright will reside in the earth, and the blameless will remain in it. As for the wicked, they will be cut off from the earth, and the treacherous will be torn away from it.” Also, Psalm 37:10, 11 says, “Just a little while longer and the wicked will be no more; you will look at where they were, and they will not be there. But the meek will possess the earth, and they will find exquisite delight in the abundance of peace”. The future will be much different from what most people expect. It will be wonderful!
I never quite understood why people in the past used to have children. What was the incentive for all that toil?
Social pressure, low education, free child labor for parents, no available contraceptives and risky abortion process. That’s all!
Also people used their kids as their retirement fund.
Before child labor laws, children weren't passive consumers. They were expected to help out on the farm or in the workshop.
The main reason, before scrapping of bettin wood standards, our money have real value as it is back by gold and silver.
People getting real wages, that don't get dialuted.
Now all goverment just print money, and stealing wages. Nobody afford anything now.
@@FirstHandLLC This is absolutely the correct answer to this question
No birth, No suffering.
No birth, no creating artistic masterpieces that resonate uniquely with humanity, no feeling the thrill of exceptional experiences that set us apart, no heartwarming love stories weaving the tapestry of human connection, no exploring the extraordinary aspects of life, secrets of life, no space exploration, no witnessing the captivating beauty of a sunset, no sharing heartfelt laughter that defines our shared human experience, no savoring the simple joy of blooming flowers, no relishing in the exceptional taste of crafted cuisine, no connecting through the electric touch of human affection, no discovering and pursuing passions that make each individual exceptional, no triumphing over fears and feeling the adrenaline rush, no living the vibrant and exceptional canvas of human life!
@@CroElectroStilenoone cares
@@user-ft5kh5um1r No people that are not clinically depressed and are not internet addicts with no life do care, because they enjoy life.
@@CroElectroStile so you are depressed cause you have no life spending time on the internet lol
@@CroElectroStileso you are depressed cause you have no life spending time on the internet lol
Nothing wrong with a decline. Less consumption, less production, less polution...just a thought...
Many come from broken families and it affects the mental health of a number of children.
There are clear problems and challenges brought about by population decline.
Well ur presupposing a healthy age demographic.
A declining population isn't the issue. An increasing dependency ratio is.
No one would want to be forced to work at 70+ years old with back pain and arthritis when there's not enough young people to keep the country from collapsing.
@@Muhammad_Nuruddin There's plenty of pros and cons that come with an increasing or decreasing population.
It's not as though all population decline will be spread evenly.
For starters, I don't want to live in a muslim world but they have the highest fertility rate so this is what the future will inevitably look like.
Liberal egalitarian feminists don't reproduce so they will lose the culture war.
This reminds me of a movie called idiocracy where intelligent anxious people avoid having children and dumb people have dozens of them...
well, that is what is happening. Highly educated developed nations have low birth rate, where that so called "sh*thole" countries have the opposite trend.
@@The_Auricle_Of_Specie Brooo.. take it easy XD ... you sound like if pepe the frog was a Nazi scientist! "Undesirables" LMFAO!
I remember the movie. However it always occurred to me that people who consider themselves intelligent- are they? Also there is no guarantee that intelligent people offspring will be intelligent. Or if you consider the high birth rate in Africa is a result of poverty and not intelligence.
Who stupid now????
@@marym-w2e uncle roger maybe too harsh on hooman beings hayiaaahh!
There are 8 billion humans on this planet.
A decrease in population for a while is a natural response.
So many people, fewer resources available per person.
Plus things are getting more expensive.
Why have more kids if you can’t afford to care for the kids you currently have?
Unfortunate reality is the population is still going to go up and will go up to 10 billion in our life time. However that population is from low iq countries, high iq countries are no longer breeding, which makes the future pretty concerning.
An overly simplistic and inaccurate explanation. There are more than enough resources. It's just that the rich are getting richer and clamping down on their resources.
@@Nobuddieshome You can actually live off very little and have many children. That's not the issue. Also, women are complicit in this discussion. They forwent their ability to stay at home and rear kids in order to double the workforce for the same household pay. Blame them and the rich CEOs. Not having kids isn't the answer.
And you think adding more humans will stop the rich getting richer or them hogging resources? 😂 if so, you’re dreaming!
Yup and world average is 2.27 and only 2 needed. It's well above average. So population is increasing only not decreasing. It used to be one billion now it's 8 billion. Even if it drops to 1 billion it has natural tendency to come back again to 1 billion. If people can't afford kids then there is no need to bring a child to the world and let them live a torcherous life.
I don't want kids to suffer, inflation, climate change, unemployment have huge drastic impact.
Same
I just don't want kids
lol you're pathetic. You life is infinitely better than the previous generations
Or more tyranny disguised as a 'plandemic' .
@SamuelBlack84 LOL same. Even if it was Paradise on Earth I still wouldn't want any.
I, for one, am never going to have a child so that he or she can become a future and tax payer that the country needs so much. The system has to change. It's insanity to put a child into this world.
Corporations running out of wage slaves lol
The world is panicking, a new King emerged today...
Personally, I wouldn’t be put off a child due to me worrying about feeding myself. The world is far too sad, dangerous. With everything happening now. I couldn’t bring life into this broken world. 😢
Don't focus on the bad, there's never been a better time in history to have kids! Child mortality is record low and life expectancy is record high! There's also lots to love about the world!
Unfortunately love doesn't pay the bills, and as much as you love your kids they can still end up homeless or starving
@@multienergico9299 You're living in a fantasy world. In a world without colonization, when humans enjoy the simple things and tax and money doesn't exist, that was the perfect time to have kids because humans can live simply through hunting and caring for one another. In this world of permanent taxes, inflation and depression, this the WORST time to have kids and it will just continue to be worst in the future until humanity becomes extinct.
@@multienergico9299 Which would you rather be: Stillborn or grow up to a life of pain?
For politicians and the ones "on top" less people means less slaves, that is why they are "concerned" because less slaves means higher costs for them...ALSO, having kids creates "necessity" and many people put up with abuse because of "necessity", no "necessity" means less putting up with abuse and that scares the poop out of the masters...
BINGO
It's cruel to have kids in this economy
I’ve spoken to people who feel the same way as you. It’s so sad that people who would love to have children don’t have them because they can’t afford to provide for them. Even if the economy was better, things like climate change, natural disasters and man-made disasters make the future look very uncertain and influence people’s decision not to have children. The good news is that our Creator is about to drastically change the situation on earth. He has a government in heaven, God’s Kingdom, which Jesus preached about when he was on earth. (Luke 4:43) The Kingdom is going to completely remove not only all human governments but also all the selfish, greedy people who make others suffer. (Daniel 2:44; Proverbs 2:21, 22) The Kingdom will lovingly care for all its subjects. (Isaiah 65:21, 22) They will experience true peace and security for the first time. (Micah 4:4) Every day will be filled with joy and laughter. (Revelation 21:4) These wonderful changes are imminent!
Or when you see what a dump the world has become with our freedoms and civil rights disappearing fast. Who would want to be born into such a dystopia?
Meanwhile Muslims laughing
The fiat economy of the west is not working anymore greedy USA with it's dominant currency eating all other currency like pound and euro 😂
Don't ask about the Japanese they are doomed
Their GDP fall from 5 trillion $ to 4.2 trillion $ in 1 year due to currency fluctuations and their is no recovery
It's not. The economy isn't too bad
I'm fine with less people. If it breaks the system Im fine with that too.
Why would people want to bring up a child who's gona suffer life like the rest of us. Most people work to survive the cost of living. My brothers struggles to pay rent n bills on his wages he's been in the same job since leaving school and now he's 43, nearly £900 rent to pay plus bills he's struggled, n now put more then he can afford on credit cards. Me and my parents are working and giving him extra money each month so he can get food and petrol which then leaves us short of money n struggling. The worst thing is millions of people are also struggling, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
rent in my city is $1900 a month for one bedroom.
@@jason4275 most wages are higher in the US..., and most states are still more affordable than our hyper-dense built up NW Europe
@@RafaquaQuetta No, there is no affordable housing in America anymore because, partially, due to venture capitalists owning most housing and charging ridiculous rents. The homeless population has risen. Overdose deaths are high in part because getting high is the only way to be comfortable o the street, living in your car, or sleeping on the floor.
Most people seem to just have kids because it's seen as what you're supposed to do
Doesn't anyone think for themselves anymore?
I want to work to live. Not stuggle to survive ! Kids are better off not to be born.
People is fed up to a bullcrap drama of life.
Instead of living a forfilling live everybody has to slave themselfs away as a wage slave for miserable living conditions.
Who really wants to bring children into today's world?
me
Not me
Africans.
@@mifolyikittgyongyoson8052 And we know and understand the reasoning behind that need, don't we.
@@Dylanesquewhat is the reason?
Isnt this a good thing?
We are already 8 BILLION. Over twice of what we were 100 years ago. This could slow the threat of overpopulation.
Greedy corporations, greedy governments, greedy politicians. Thats what it means.
And greedy women
and the men with no brains like you
@@smellypatel5272greedy men, be a SAHD and provide what you preach
@@1675loof nah it's not a man's job to stay at home. Men go out and work/earn. It's women who ought to stay at home.
@@smellypatel5272 how does that boot taste?
Does it really take a rocket scientist to figure out that lack of housing, lack of jobs, stagnant wages, skyrocketing inflation, sub-par education, pricey daycare, galloping energy costs, soaring food costs, crumbling medical care, no dental care, the disintegration of the family unit, high taxes, and lack of real prospects, never mind the political instability created by the self-entitled 2x4s in power and the wars they create, might not have something to do with declining birth rates in advanced countries--UK included? Just a thought...
Sorry. The world is cruel and very competitive. Better to reduce population from current levels to levels that were there around 100 years ago for starters.
There are too many people consuming too much too fast anyway. The only real way I see us solving things like climate change and water shortages is to have less people consuming and polluting.
Cause no.1 for people to go into poverty ?
Children
For thousands of years, we didn't count humanity in billions, and our planet was better and healthier that way. We will survive in smaller numbers. Also, fewer people means less competition. The problem is our economic system - it can only endure with growth. So, we should change this greedy capitalism that doesn't care about humanity but only profit. It obviously isn't working and depression and unhappiness are hitting record levels. Plus, nothing can grow forever.
This has nothing to do with birthrate, it's all about the Corporations, Politicians, and 1% wealthy elites that needs people to keep them rich, paying more taxes, votes for the politicians and paying for elderly pensions.
Aka capitalism
What a delusional statement.
@@nebhalabir1201no, actually it’s the rising authoritarianism.
@@nathanjustus6659 aka capitalism
@@nebhalabir1201 better than socialism where bribes are how you get anything including medical care
No baby. Connect the countries.
I am a grandparent In the UK. Factually, there is only one factor limiting birth rate, that is affordability. Even a qualified doctor and his partner these days can not afford a wedding, a mortgage or more than two children. Every problem in the world affecting humans resolves downwards into money. Make your citizens feel more well off and they will have more children. Not rocket science and you don’t need complex maths or stupid graphs to explain it. 😮🇬🇧🇺🇦🙏🌈♥️
Weddings need not cost much if you attend the right church. Perhaps part of the problem is that folks have lost their faith and with the loss of faith have lost important support systems.
Taxes are way too high as well. Thats why I moved myself and my business out of the UK. Now have a life I can afford and a lovely family. The welfare state is destroying the UK.
Would it be so bad if the human race died out?
My wife is a doctor, and I work at an office. We can not afford a child.
Too many decisions were made in this world looking at graphs and charts, not at families and individual well being
But the earth can't handle an ever increasing world population.
Nature can be wonderful if we treated fair. And Our resources are running low.
yes, the "expert scientists" stated this that certain civilizations (ethnicities) would die out...
Nonsense
@@johnnybling1253 You wanna wait till the entire planet collapses on it's own weight to find out?
who said increase? why not maintain?
The world is becoming a worse place by the day. It's not hard to see why people are forgetting about having kids.
Life was much harder in the pasr. People died like flies and they still started families.
@@jojoball11in last century after war? No. You could afford a house and grow east businesses for average american salary or lower. Technology was worse but people still lived long. Boomer generation had the best money-to-lifespan ratio.
Seriously? Would you like to be born, instead, during the XVII century? XIV century? VI century?
@@Dihyyy This was only really true in the US. And for a minority. Outside this bubble, you would still have the same hardships as in the previous eras.
@@jojoball11 only because birth control wasn't a thing. Thanks to modern science we can choose when to have kids or not
instead of bitching about the low birth rates imagine if world leaders put that effort into finding ways of making things work with an inevitability smaller population.
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Well said. We have to adapt. The population can’t keep growing at the rate it is. Our natural resources are already depleted. It’s insane those politicians think people should keep procreating to pay for retirees.
@@MariaAlmeida-u8l It's not just a quantitative issue, it's also about populace age balance
This is actually good news. The planet needs less of us,why are politicians Calling it a crisis??
because it means less money for their 30 yachts and 80 houses 😢😢😢
because there will be so many old people requiring care with fewer working age people.. taxes will be even higher and retirement age longer for future generations.
@@Jonnyicey I get the Economic argument. But I'm wondering if our Economic system is based on population growth that's never supposed to end, I wonder when do we have to accept the consequences.
Because, it looks like everything should be fine only if the graph is going up and up and up.
@@mugumyapaultheafricannomad9488 Ideally we would have a balance of 2.1 children per woman to keep it level but when in the past it was 4 now its 1.4 its like a timebomb. I hope AI and robotics will solve some of the issues but we could do with a new system especially if there's lots of people losing their jobs to AI like they predict.
@@Jonnyiceyrobots are a long way off taking elderly people to the toilet and wiping their bum
I say let it fall and fall.... maybe then real changes can happen!
Some of us just don't like kids, never wanted them and can live life without them.
Absolutely. Im nearly 60, never for a nanosecond have I wanted a child. Had I been born 100 years earlier I would have had children - poor contraception and societal expectations
It would be interesting to ask the parents but I don’t think you’d get an honest answer
I laugh whenever kids under 20 lecture me about how I will regret it and feel lonely
@johnpark7972 i'm 12 and i think you shouldn't due to child support, child supports like what 90,000$ to 193,000,000$?
@@johnpark7972honestly if that’s someone’s response is to say you’ll feel lonely that’s a selfish response. Why bring a child into this cruel world just for you to have a companion that depends on you and loves you. You can equally feel fulfilled and not lonely without children
Fix the cost of living and people will have kids.
None of this is surprising. We live in some of the worst environmental, societal and economical times our species has ever seen. Why would you want to bring a kid into the world in those conditions?
No shit… how can you raise a family earning average uk salary of 27k annually
That 27k figure doesn’t represent the average person either. It’s heavily skewed by the handful of people makes over £80k.
Most younger people would be lucky to take home £24k after taxes.
Everything comes back to housing. Feeling you have a stable place to sleep at night is fundamental to reproducing and it so hard to find this now.
It is not a declining birth rate but childlessness either deliberate or involuntary
Means less stress on the environment, which is a good thing.
Less pollution is a good thing.
@@funonthebun888devastating for the lords of the world who wont be able to have an army of tax payers in future
@@tsohanoaigodofsun312you’re both literally saying that you don’t care if people die or starve to death 😂 so girlboss
@@tsohanoaigodofsun312exactly 💯 I'm a parent and I have been saying this all along
Even your car comes with specifications...5 passengers only...
By the way can we send u guys some of our people we're enough
lower birthrate means our world is finally getting more developped.
Except the there are a lot of "less developed" people having children
@@stewlew8449
That's the real problem. Population decline is only temporary before the population would stabilise.
But there are certain groups who are having too many children.
@@Patrick-y4d1zReligion of peace lol
@@Patrick-y4d1zThere is no such as too many children. The more the merrier.
@@Patrick-y4d1z its really only africa and some of the middle east that have a very high birth rate. Most of Asia used to be like that but now they have a declining birthrate since theyve developed over the past few centuries. the same will happen with africa soon as its already very slowly decreasing over there
My children are 21 and 23, both female, and neither of them want children. I'm proud of them. Why would you want to bring another life into this world? When our governments can't agree that climate change is real and there might not be a planet worth living on, or that trying to keep you finances above water has become so difficult that you wouldn't want your child to have to struggle through life semi-poor.
If you’re not discussing work life balance, higher salaries or paid leave for new parents. You’re wasting your time talking about low birth rates.
None of the things you listed raise birth rates.
@@MrNote-lz7lh Sure Sherlock