Why Humans Are Vanishing
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Every two years one million Japanese disappear, China’s population will halve by the end of the century, the median age in Italy has reached 48. All around the world birth rates are crashing - Is humanity dying out? What is going on and how bad is it?
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In Korea, if you use parental leave you are excluded from promotion. Doesn’t matter if you’re the father or the mother. No clue why people don’t have kids, right?
That is so ridiculous, how are people meant to live ?
@@gracialutonadio342 Many Korean vested interests are angry that we are a lackadaisical, lazy, and complaining generation because they were able to raise their children faithfully without paternity leave ;(
Um..It’s not true😅😅
@@보민-j2tno, it’s true
Well it’s true in many industries. Once you use maternity leave, you’ll be instantly excluded from major projects. Some of my colleagues actually had 3 months or less not to get fired or bc they’re scared to be treated badly after more months passed. For males, you’ll be harassed if you use one 😂
Hot take: the reason why people have less children is not "because magically people stop having children when they stop dying", but that our lifestyle is incompatible with having children. When women were incorportated in the work force, work hours should have been reduced proportionally. We are working more for less, we don't even have time for ourselves, much less for taking care of our children, and most of the basics like home and health has been sequestred for a small portion of the population to live of a chunk of other people's work. Get down to 4 hours of work for both parents to make a living and you will see how suddenly people start having children, because what's needed to nurture children is spending time.
This, something people forget is that overythe course of the 20th century, available hours "doubled" as the half of the population that didn't work before entered the workforce, when there's more supply of something, it gets cheaper, this translated as wages being half of what they could be per hour
OH! So it's just a capitalism problem then? Shocker.
While this indeed points to a bad system. Having less kids is objectively a good thing. Continuous population growth is stupid and nature teaches us that it leads to only one thing: Mass starvation. I'll take some lonely people not being able to have kids over that any day thank you very much. Don't give me that "oh but that's long in the future" gunk either. I know how shortsighted people are, if population growth isn't managed and respected today, it won't be when it's too late either.
That UBI would help too. In the US not having access to healthcare or being able to afford university for your children is another roadblock.
Yeah, started this video and instantly assumed that they will turn this into some sort of mystery when it is a product of capitalism. South Korea in particular is kinda feeling the worst of this so there is absolutely 0 surprise here.
As a teenager, I always imagined that by age 30 I would've married, owned a house and had all the children I was going have. I turn 30 in 8 days. Haven't done any of those things. I've been with my partner for 7 & a half years. If it was up to us, we would've done all of it already, but neither of us see those things as achievable goals for our near future. Housing is way too expensive and wages are too low. Why have kids when we can't afford to feed them or house them? Much less have the time to raise them since we both work full time just to survive. And without all of that, marriage just seems so pointless...
As much as we wish we could start a family, we have no incentive to do so
If Africans living in mud huts can have 7 babies, then so can you.
Enjoy the last 8 days of your twenties 🫡
I have two kindergarden kids. Best thing I did in my life. The maridge collapsed but still we have two wonderfull humans to care for. It will all work out. They really don't need that much money. All they need is parrents that love them and show them they are loved.
@eypxmwgovmifuon7808 Oh, I will! Thank you
Do you really need an incentive for that
It’s simple. No time. No money. Not enough help.
“It takes a village to raise a child” is a very old saying. People are very quick to forget.
Nowadays they cherry pick role models and say "you can make it"
Technically it's still just a saying it takes a father and a mother to raise a child. Hot take. The world's population is in decline because women think men are trash and men are tired of gold digging women. I think the reason why birth rates are so low now is because of equality and feminism
@@jeffreyrodriguez7298 true
Yeah man they pickup 1 percentage and expect all of the others to copy thme 😂@@jeffreyrodriguez7298
They quote a village as if everyone has one available...but most folks don't nowadays because of how we fragmented around social media lines. How many people KNOW more than three of their neighbors on their street? Even just ask that of home-owners, not renters. Renters in apartments may actually interact as their own sub-unit semi-village, too...but 'homeowners' either are there predating social media, or they don't know more than MAYBE a handful of their neighbors. There are surely some exceptions to that, but...anyway, I have lived where I do for YEARS now (3 or 4), but because I'm one of only a very few who refuses to use social media in any form except sorta-youtube (but I only sub for content, not 'belonging' or 'extended semi-family' or something), nobody but my childless "both of them work for a living and they own a dog which they love VERY much!" next door neighbors knows and can believe that I would babysit for ANYONE for a few hours just to help someone preserve their sanity or health. SOMEONE in town would have asked even once if they thought I was safe to ask that of...but A) Fear-bubbles and I'm not in their 'social-medium-existence range' and B) Since they don't know me personally, if they're not my neighbor's BEST friend, I doubt anyone else she knows would ever consider asking me for help with their kids. So not only do we make it hard to raise kids, we make it hard to make a VILLAGE in which to RAISE that child nowadays, and we have NO reason to look surprised at what has resulted from our own long-term-messes.
When I was very young, I used to hang out with a family in our neighborhood who got paid (I forget, some small-but-usable-amount of money) to watch kids from each family. It wasn't perfectly SAFE, but this was also the 'free-range children' era anyway, so kids being a bit self-reliant even from a young age was quite expected. Older girls (and rare boys) would help the mom of the house, the families would pay to be part of that 'extended-household', and we'd even do stuff like 'fix up the house for them' or 'add a new room' or whatever as a village. Someone pulls permits, someone else organizes what materials are needed, someone figures out what the stuff would cost and takes up collections to make it possible. That person took care of your kids; we all wanted to make sure they were happy and had whatever they sensibly-needed in their lives, but ESPECIALLY the stuff they needed to better care for our kids!
I could maybe become that sort of person for my town/section of town/whatever...but I know three households on the street, with two of them being 'on each side of me'. I may even be an overachiever...I understand way too many people just use "Neighborhood Panic" apps and just 'lurk at all those crazy people on our street' from afar rather than actually meeting any of them in real life.
We have done better than we are doing right now. We can DO BETTER once again, if we choose to do so and work for it. 😕
Get OFF of Facebook and Twitter and everything else.... Or at least ban them all from providing news and text outside of 'whatever your phone's recorded travel range is', maybe? I dunno...but let's work on it.
I'm nearly 24 and my parents would have expected me to settle down and support a family by now had the world been an affordable place to live. But kids are expensive and at this present moment I literally have $24 in my bank accounts, and I get paid next week. Living on my own is impossible, I live with two roommates with similar incomes.
This economy is nightmarish. I work 34 hours a week and I'm also a student. I'm bogged down trying to build a successful life in a world that seems hellbent on failing. Everyone in power is obsessed with hate and greed. Not to mention they're old enough that they'll die before they see the consequences of their actions. It feels pretty bleak.
Turn on tune in drop out - Tim o Leary
Courage mate, you will overcome it.
"There's a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart that you can't take part! You can't even passively take part! And you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus -- and you've got to make it stop! And you've got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it -- that unless you're free the machine will be prevented from working at all!!"
Mario Savio, 1964
@@EnzoGarabatos That's easy enough to say until a certain point. When does "overcoming it" stop being viable? I'd argue in many countries we've already passed that point. Almost everything is getting worse; pay is insufficient; housing are way too expensive; food prices going up whilst inflation and shrinkflation gives us even less buying power; college costs a lifetime of debt for many of us; I can go on. Yeah sure, somethings are better now than in the past but to be honest I would rather have been young 60 years ago.
Raising a kid isn't as expensive as they scare you into thinking it is. Take it from a dad.
The worst part about this is that it is a vicious circle. The governments will prioritize the elderly majority putting even more strain on the young leading to even less kids and more old people. In my country it is already manifesting by the government spending huge amounts of money to make sure that the pensions keep rising and at the same time they make budget cuts for education and healthcare and do nothing to alleviate the soaring house and rent prices and they can't do anything else because freezing or lowering pensions is a political suicide in a majority old democratic nation.
Edit: I am taking about the Czech Republic, but the issues are basically the same everywhere in the West
Which country is this?
True. Look at Japan. The elderly are literally destroying the future of young people and thus the future of Japan itself. The young Japanese already given up and stopped voting. Which of course lets the ruling party in power and they pour tax money into the elderly. In 2015 age group 20s was already as low as 30% voter turnout, age 60 was 70% study published in Springer Nature.
Denmark had been a gerontocracy for decades, and things aren't going to improve. Problems that mainly plague young people, including the lack of affordable rental housing, is consistently ignored.
how the hell would it lead to more old people? do you think that old people multiply if you feed them?
@@Khunark yes, kind off. People get older if you feed them, so by feeding you get more old people. Every year you get more and more old people.
As a Korean, one of the main reason for rapid fall of birth rate is that the idea of "If we cannot make our children happy, then it is better to not give birth to them" has become so common among the young people in Korea. It is of course an obligation for parents to try their best for their children's happy juvenile life, but the thing is that typicaly Koreans have large focus on economic well-being as a prerequisite for happy life, which not many could attain the general standards for wealthy life.
The bigger picture here is that the West is trying to soften you up into accepting multi-national immigrants. Keep your wits about you.
I'm Vietnamese and share the same belief, for I've witnessed the suffering of small children more than usual due to poverty and abuse.
yeah, I agree. I think their education has a big part on this whole phenomenon too. Education in Korea is very old fashioned, it's all about printing the same kind human resources like a machine. Young people compete endlessly not knowing why. As a Korean American who spent most of my teen years in Korea, that system broke me. Individuality is completely ignored, and the only way to be acknowledged is getting into a good college. Not surprising to see that this country has the highest suicidal rate, along with decrease in birth rate. Life is brutal there.
The same here in China
돈이 몰리는 곳에 답이있다. 돈이 없어서 애를 낳고싶어도 못낳는 사람이 있는가 하면, 돈이 넘치게 많아도 애를 낳지 않는 사람도 많다. 자본주의 구조 상 한 나라의 자본 90%를 아주 소수의 부자들이 차지할 수 있다. 그러면 그 부자들은 나머지 인구의 출산율을 책임져줄 수 있나? 부자들이 돈을 거머쥔 만큼 아이도 많이 낳아야 해결될 것이다. 예를 들어 삼성가 등 재벌은 최소 10명이상 아이를 낳아야한다던지 등등.... 하지만 법적으로 강제성을 주지 않으면 해결되지 않겠지.
I just have to say, I've never felt so seen in this comment section. I think this is the first time I've truly felt connected to so many other people on the internet that share my concerns and frustrations towards surviving, let alone living, in this world. Stay courageous everyone
I think that's a huge telling of how little it's actually talked about, like yeah inflation and economic downturn is constantly talked about but you never see how many people it actually impacts because it's not covered anywhere ever
A while back I had the displeasure of listening to a senior citizen (who shall remain unnamed) complain about how young people these days are just so lazy. "By the time I was that age, i AlReAdY hAd A hOuSe." And I'm over here struggling not to blow up and tell them to get a fucking clue. The economy is NOT the same.
nowadays old people are just not accepting the fact that the world has changed so much.
@@zayedbinimran957 In fairness we will probably act in a similar manner if and when we reach their age. It happens with each generation, I have seen my parents complain about my grandparents and now I complain about my parents. The cycle will just continue.
@@20thCentury_Turtle not us. We are gen z. We literally grew up in a world that was constantly changing and as such changes won't impact us as much as the older generations like x and y because in their time change was slow so seeing the world change so fast they couldn't adapt.
The elderly like to victim blame Millennials & Gen Z for the consequences that they themselves created. They worshiped the Greed Machine & made other dumb decisions that harmed us before we were even born.
@@zayedbinimran957Don't you think that is kind of a closed mindset? I mean with Gen Z starting at 1997, none of them were old enough to remember 9/11. The surge in the middle east had died down before any of them were old enough to enlist. To date, the biggest thing gen Z has had to experience was a pandemic scare that just resulted in staying home for a few months then wearing masks for a year or so. Meanwhile Gen Z's parents and grandparents saw wars the US actually took part in. From Vietnam to the Gulf war to the middle east. Along with watching 9/11 on the TV and wondering if their Gen Z kid was still safe at school. Honestly, in my opinion, most of what Gen Z has gone through the first started turning 18, 9 years ago, pales in comparison to what most previous generations experienced. But hey, there's another 10-20 years till their kids are old enough to make this kind of comment so there's plenty of time for actual major changes.
“The wolves are upset, the sheep won’t reproduce”
Exactly. Great way of putting it
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你这是自私自利好吗
The wolves are all higher class who just want to pay a peanut to its workers.
Something that I'm disappointed wasn't touched on is the financial deficit of having children. it's becoming increasingly more expensive to live in the western world as salaries have not increased to match, and children are incredibly expensive to have. Until the cost of living vs average salary goes back to what it was like pre 2008, having children is just straight up bad to do financially.
our ancestors lived $1 a day and had 12 children, stop buying useless shit and looking for houses in expensive places.
@@muradm7748 Our ancestors developed different superstitions to keep populations down because they couldn't afford large families. It is only since the industrial revolution that large families started to be a thing. Why do you think the world population didn't change much between 10,000BCE and 1,500CE.
Your 1 pound a day is now worth at least £12 now, stop blaming the younger generation and learn how inflation works
Also housing prices and advertising dont help the situation
@@muradm7748 Ah yes, let me move into the practically free abandoned house in Hopeville West Virginia and raise a family there, despite the fact that there's no jobs there to support myself with agriculture or whatever not being productive compared to industrial farming and such.
People don't move to expensive places for the fun of it, they move there so that they don't have to spend half their day commuting to and from work, and that they actually can get to heir job, because the last generation spent all their time making it impossible to build anything but single family homes near workplaces, leading to there not being enough housing where the people live
Countries think they can get away with being greedy without consequences.
I'm a high school student in Korea, and I have midterm coming up in a few days.
I spend more than half of my day studying, including school routines and hagwon every day, but I can't feel much value from the knowledge I've learned like that. That is nothing more than a tool for competition.
I am tired of the fierce tests and competition that are repeated every semester.
The fact that my child will have to go through this competition in the future is appalling.
In fact, in a survey of class children in my school, most students, except a few, said they don't want to have children in the future, and one of the reasons was the fierce competition structure mentioned earlier.
Everyone talks as if the world is over if they don't get to college, and they value only profits and stability while ignoring individual talents and aptitudes.
Many foreign media, including this video, point to the problem of low birth rate in Korea and its causes, but the Korean political community is sitting on the sidelines of the worsening problem. How sad it is.
ㄹㅇ 나도 그리 생각해서 낳기가 싫다 중간고사....하...ㅠㅠㅠ
왜 방관만하고 개선할생각 안하는지
세금만 훔쳐먹고
대학교도 지금 개박살나는중임
Korean Women's Statistics No. 1 in traveling prostitution in the world No. 1 in renewed abortions No. 1 in STDs in history (4 times more than men) Lowest material index No. 1 in luxury consumption No. 1 birth rate in old age No. 1 in divorce rate Asia No. 1 in newborns with disabilities 28.5 percent.
It's not a matter of fertility, and most Korean men have no intention of marrying or even dating Korean women.
In a country with 1.2 million traveling prostitutes, an STD rate of more than 50 percent, and more than 1 million women having abortions a year, there are no more men willing to make the world's most expensive contract and lose their entire life savings.
근데 사실 우리만 그런건 아님. 인도 중국은 우리보다 더 심하다고 들음. 그냥 우리가 출산 안하고 싶다고 하는거는 인스타때문에라는 데에 동의함. 너무 상향평준화된거로 보이니까.
학교의 공부에서 가치를 느끼지못하는 것에 백배 공감합니다. 그저 경쟁을 위한 도구이고 자신의 길에 그 지식이 필요하지않다면 경쟁만을 불러일으키기에 학생들은 가치를 느끼지 못합니다.
학생들이 하고싶은걸 찾아야하는 나이에 좁은 상황에 갇혀 아주 가치가 없는 것은 아니지만, 가치가 없다고 느낄만한 지식을 머리에 우겨넣는데... 그들이 어른이되면 어떤 행동을 하기전에 그 행동에 대한 가치를 여러번 생각하고 판단하며 예민하게 행동하게 되기에 어떤것이든 보수적으로 받아들이게 되는 것 같습니다...
I think it's also important to note that people want to have kids, but housing and healthcare costs are so unbearable that it's literally impractical for them to have more than one. This rings true for most of Europe, as well as places like Hong Kong and Korea.
All Developed countries
I think housing and healthcare costs are not that much worse than say 70-100 years ago, it’s just that we have different standards now (which is not a bad thing at all), we have better control over our fertility and most parents/potential parents are trying to be responsible with the choices we make for our kids. My grandma grew up with 4 siblings in a small 2-room flat in the 50s and it was nothing unusual back then in the USSR, but who would consciously decide to have 5 kids in a tiny apartment nowadays?
Korea has good medical welfare. The majority of Koreans worry about housing and education expenses.
Are there apartments for single people in Africa, the Middle East, and Southeast Asia? There aren't that many, right? If they are 30 years old and unmarried, they are probably living with their parents. The same goes for southern Europe.
Jews back at it
The lack of pay increase but massive spike in spending
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i can't quite understand why even Kurzgesagt barely touched on the absolute, obvious reason this is happening. People are working too much, for too little. If they can barely afford to live while working full time, why would they add the huge financial burden of children on top of that?
People -want- to have children. They just dont have the momey or time, its not because were being rebellious individualists, its because we couldnt afford to feed them, let alone have time to see them and teach them.
No its bc there a lot of gays and people making shorts of saying I hate kids making more people likely to not birth
@@leudsonsouza but gay couples are having kids at almost the same rate as hetero couples.
On top of that, gay people didn't just suddenly start existing.
Its a staunchly neoliberal channel that will not discuss growing economic inequality or how worker productivity has skyrocketed but people have become poorer.
Notice where they say "people will have to work harder and longer hours" when they just as easily could have said "rich people will need to be taxed more" or "workers will have to get paid more" or "governments will need to change their economic model", thats where they really show their cards and bias.
They barely mentioned income, housing, or time at work, like you and this whole comment section said. Add in the mental health crisis, drug use/overdoses, suicides, and dating scene in terms of social factors.
Its not a serious production and if not for the cute animations would never be watched.
@@leudsonsouza that doesn't severely impact the birth numbers.
@@leudsonsouza dawg theres less homosexual people statistically it wont even dent the birth rate, what OP described is one of the reasons why birth rates today are so shittily low
Had this convo with my friend yesterday, what her and I concluded is that its damn near impossible to raise a child effectively and work. And knowing South Korea's work culture, I think our conclusion holds up pretty well.
What I wonder is, why doesn't this hold true for countries that don't see as many working hours on average? It seems to help somewhat but it doesn't seem to fix it unless these countries simply haven't gone far enough?
@@PJ-oe6eu there's a lot of countries that cheat the system, they import people from other countries that tend to have a lot of kids as soon as they get there and see their living standards raise. It's not that simple. France is probably the best example of this, they fixed their baby problem by importing people.
@@PJ-oe6eu That's due to the simple cost of a child. For all the happiness that a child can bring for a family, they are also absolutely giant financial losses. Think of everything you need to pay for your child. Food, diapers, baby sitters if you (and/or your partner) don't have the time to be with your kid 24/7 and can't bring em to work, schooling which gets very expensive very fucking fast, a larger home if you don't already have a house that can support an extra addition to the family which means more rent to pay.
That's only some of the issues and that's without going into the fact that half of these things listed will be twice as expensive by the time your child needs it due to shit getting more expensive but wages not growing to compensate for that growth.
Also this is all assuming that your child is behaves and doesn't get into and trouble as a teenager (Or at any age really) which causes more financial issues, such as stealing, getting expelled from school, damaging property, etc.
Along aside all of this is the general stress of raising a child, the early months (and to some extent years) are extremely rough. Being woken up late at night due to your baby crying, leading to less sleep, your child being a picky eater or needing specific things done to get children to sleep (I for example had to put into the car and then driven around before I fell asleep most of the time according to my parents.) and just the general amount of things that a child that doesn't know that some things are fragile and can break without meaning to, such as vases, anything ceramic, glass wear, etc.
내 생각에는 여자들때문임. 성별갈등 조장하는 문재인 정부에 대한 20대 여성 지지율이 70퍼센트였음. pc주의 유행하니까 본인들이 계몽한 것처럼 군가산점 폐지하고 치안 세계에서 손에 꼽을 정도로 좋은 나라에서 "한국 남성이 잠재적 범죄자라느니 몰카가 어디에 있다느니 선동당해서 헛소리만 하다가 이제와서는 성별갈등 조장하지 말라고 말 바꾸고 이상한 사상 그득해서 더치페이하면 가성비 여친이다, 사랑하면 남자가 다 낸다 이런식으로 가스라이팅하는 글들이 여자들 메이저한 흐름인데 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 아이들을 풍족하게 키우고 싶다 이런 말 하면서 본인들이 오마카세 파인다이닝 찾아다니고 해외여행 가는 게 말이 됨? 그리고 심지어 한국여자 초혼 연령도 30대 초중반임. 결국 남자들은 20대에 군대 2년 갔다오고 공대에서 공부하는동안 여자들은 군에서 복무하는 남자들 조롱하며 20대에 놀거 다 놀고 그동안 자기계발한 경제적으로 풍족한 남자를 찾는거잖음 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ. 그니까 결국 "너드남"이 유행하는건 그냥 능력 있고 순진한 남자를 잡아서 편하게 살겠다는 마인드에서 비롯한거임. 경제적으로 풍족하지 못해서 아이를 못 낳는다 이건 그냥 돈을 버는대로 다 써놓고 돈을 못 모으겠다고 불평하는 거임. 우리나라의 경제적 수준은 출산율이 하락하기 전이나 후나 비슷한데 남여 갈등 이후로 출산율이 확 낮아짐. 왜? 여자들 대다수가 선동당해서 위의 본문처럼 사니까. 심지어는 페미니스트 교수가 한국의 남성을 벌레에 비유하고 남자아이를 '한국남자유충'이라고 칭하는 반인륜적인 논문이 등재됐는데 20대 여성 대다수가 페미니스트인 한국에서 어떻게 아이를 낳을 생각을 할 수 있겠음? 유교문화를 철폐하고 스스로 진취적인 여성이라고 생각했는데 현실은 가정적이지도 못하고 능력도 없고 얼굴은 몽골 DNA가득해서 남성적인 외모를 어떻게든 성형해서 여자답게 보이는 이도저도 아닌 여자가 바로 한국여자 아님? 옆나라 일본의 "여자력"을 보고 여성인권이 낮다고 비난하고 귀엽고 여성스러운 행동을 보고 "유아퇴행"이라고 비난하는 한국여자는 어떤 모습임? 걸크러쉬? 걸크러쉬를 내세우지만 범죄진압은 못하는 여경? 결혼할 능력이 없는 걸 비혼주의로 포장하고 혼자 늙어가는 모습? 대부분의 남성이 성매매를 한다고 날조해서 비난하지만 기생으로 살던 조선인의 피를 잊지 못하고 미국에서 성매매 여성 국적의 23%를 차지한 한국 여성? 조만간 인구 절벽으로 인해 여성들도 남성들과 함께 판문점에 서서 북괴에 맞서는 날이 오길 기원합니다^^
한국 여자의 논리: 한국은 매일 여자가 죽기 때문에 한국 남자는 잠재적 범죄자이며 여성혐오자다. 난 편하고 안전한 일을 할 것이지만 돈은 고층빌딩의 외벽을 청소하는 남자만큼 줘라. 아이를 낳을 권리는 나에게 있으므로 너희들이 여성들의 요구에 따르지 않는다면 나는 비혼주의를 선언할 것이다. 물론 차은우가 강남의 건물과 명품 가방을 가지고 프로포즈 한다면 없던 일로 하고 결혼을 할 것이다.
Koreans work 40 hours - but only in theory.
No Stable Job?
No Affordable Housing?
No Financial assistance?!
then no Child!
What are you, 12?
No someone with actual common sense@@dallassegno
@@dallassegnoWhat are you ? Dumb ?
Don't answer, rethorical question.
@@dallassegno are you 12?
@@dallassegno blud onto nothing
Many young people don't even have their own home. You can have more money, but if you pay more for living, you are not rich at all. Rents and house prices are crazy - impossible to buy a house/flat without going into debt for 2 lifetimes. Many people just don't want children because it's economically unbearable.
I like Jesus Christ 😊 ❤️
All result of too many people alive in the world.
@@Kamamura2 no, the problem is with the system which pushes prices too high...
@@tomashromnik108Prices rise because people keep buying or consuming. This especially is so when commodities are limited. So less people=less consumers=lower or at least stable prices. And not to mention less waste, pollution and carbon emissions.
@@theintrovertedaspie9095 it doesn't depend on the count of people but their lifestyle....
Korea is basically the textbook example of what happens when living an ordinary, simple life is regarded as failure. I’m Korean but glad my parents didn’t put me through all that.
Vars?? What are you doing here
When a top 10 or atleast 20 percent out of population is considered 'normal'
And if you're not 'normal' you deserved to be mistreated and looked downed constantly
No wonder people stopped making kids and been killing themselves more than anywhere
If you can, emigrate to Latin America, we have good food, housing and good life quality... (if you dont get killed by robbers), but its mostly calmer here.
My parents didnt pressure me like that as well (like telling me to be better and work harder) but I still ended up being a depressed loser because societal expectations and pressures exist outside of parenting style. Im heavily affected by that more than I'd like to be.
@@bapbirb They raised me to be prepared for societal expectations and pressures, rather than pushing those very expectations and pressures on me. They taught me discipline and good work ethic so that when I encountered those pressures and expectations I would be ready for them. It's not that they let me relax and stuff.
The scariest things in the world:
-Horror Movies
-Darkness
-Kurzgesagt talking about a problem
SO REAL!
Watching a horror movie and then at the end it says “Based on a true story”
-The Valve guy turning his head around
Being in a war at the frontline has to be the most scary thing.
I’ve tried to binge watch Their existential crisis playlist a dozen times. It can’t be done. Give me a bloody horror movie marathon and I sleep like a baby. 🤣
Personally the biggest blocker for me as someone with a wonderful partner, both of us working decent jobs and wanting to have a family is the cost of housing and child expenses. I feel that without a large enough house to comfortably accommodate the two children we would like, we need to get into better paying positions for that to happen which means having kids later which limits opportunity. And as said in the video, I want us both to be present in raising our children which means at least one of us would need to either change to working from home or give up on a career. I dont care about my career more than family but we both need to earn to support a family so not sure when would even be a good time. It's troubling to think about.
Just wait a few more years, I'm sure the economy will improve for the middle class, will it?
So basically the reason for no children is due to capatlism you heard it here
Meanwhile poor people shit out 8 kids lol. Just spend less on luxuries
@@princesslemmy😒
Capitalism isn't the issue, in America at least.
Don't worry, it's comparably bad for people who are single and can't afford any housing better than renting a room with random people because of the single income. It seems that the only sustainable life is bound to have one partner with no child, no more and no less.
10:33 I love this line "no one owes their country a child", very well said, love from China!
As someone who has worked in Korea as a teacher, one thing I’ve come to see is that the education system is a big underlying issue. Parents are competitive as hell for their child to succeed and private education is very very expensive. This is leading to some people only having 1 child and focusing their efforts on making sure they succeed. Because of this, the parents are all fixated on their status and how well their child is doing at school, some paying for cosmetic surgery for their kids, it’s crazy.
The work to life balance is also pretty bad. Some kids told me they didn’t even see their parents in the week at all because they stayed so late at work (and they were also in private academies until 10pm).
The saddest part is that it doesn't work. You inherit so much from your parents intrinsically (habits, work-ethics etc) such that the all of the Korean people I've seen ace the exams and/or get to prestigious universities never really participate in those fierce competition.
FYI, old money of Korea don't send their kids to Daechi private tuition.
On surface, it looks like the parents want their kids to succeed, and giving them all the condition to succeed, but really, it is greed. They failed to achieve the success so they put it on their children to study hard. Needless to say it doesn't work. It's just sad really.
Leading by example is the best way to lead. Coercion never worked.
The notion of you have to send your children to expensive private education is a stupidity that has been perpetuated over decades is like Keeping with the Jone's but by sending children to stupid often unecessary private hagwons.
that's right
@@londonkkondaeSo basically it's just generational trauma and greed creating this neverending toxic generational relationships. Though South Korean Gen Z (people who are born 1998-2010 [debatable where Gen Z ended and Gen Alpha started but let's pretend it's 2010]) I believe most of them have child free mindsets. It's going to always be like this when Boomer, Gen X, and Millennials that govern today still refuse make the country better place (non toxic education culture, job opportunities, affordable but good housings, etc) for younger generations like Gen Z and Gen Alpha. Difficult environments make people doing whatever it takes to survive, and young generations do it by planning to not having children. As Gen Z myself, I can 100% sympathize with them.
@@way9883 toxic people generally find a way to implode on themselves. So I believe by not giving them the attention they're craving, they'll just do that on their own.
Yes, on societal level, unfairness, injustice will always exist. That's the very definition of a system - it has a function, and there are always winners and losers.
If you ask me though, from where I am, the situation in Korea is actually not any worse than what it's like in other countries. All of the difficulties (like insane house prices, stagnating wages) are happening globally in all major cities, and at least Korea has jeonsae - where you don't pay £2500/m on rent each month, and save money you won't just blow away.
We can complain that people won't change things for us, or we can change things the way we see fit. And FYI - when it comes to men at least, the bottom 10% (in terms of income) gets married only 20% of the times, and the top 10% gets married 90% of the time.
Literally the case in many countries is the lack of affordability. Here in the US housing is expensive. Many young people are still living with their parents or are opting to renting an apartment. Healthcare is a joke. One visit to the hospital/ER can financially bankrupt you. Many women/mothers don't receive substantial benefits such as lengthy maternity leaves. Access to daycare services is expensive. Food is getting more expensive. Higher education is expensive. The idea of having a single child right now sounds like a nightmare.
That is fundamentally wrong. It is the perception of affordability and the choice by individuals, more specifically women, to not sacrifice any amount of quality of life to have kids. A generation of unparalleled wealth and quality of life can't have kids because they are addicted to everything being perfect and easy. I am tired of people making the affordability excuse, the data says its wrong. Stop making this argument.
@@koy540 Can you provide this data? Yea, didn't think so.
@@koy540seconded, the economy had undergone a massive shift over the past three years, 29% are doing remote or hybrid work, 40% have the option to do either and yet there's still no baby boom and people are still complaining about the cost of childcare. Women just don't want children anymore, period 🤷♀️
@@koy540 That is a huge generalization. And I'm not sure why you are saying affordability isn't an issue when it is. Look at the average wage as a proportion of the average rent from the 1980s and compare that with 2023 if you need proof.
And it should be obvious that any country facing such problems is full.
If you allow me to share my perspective: in the reality I live in, the main issue that stops people from having more kids is... Money. Jobs are paying less, everything is getting more expensive by the hour, and it's become an enormous challenge to be able to work hard enough to live by and sustain your family, while also enjoying it (even with both working). Previous generations were able to afford big houses with a low income, not to mention buying food, paying school bills, everything was cheaper. Nowadays you have to be very well off to be able to have a decent sized apartment not too far from crucial facilities such as schools, hospitals, markets... so in the end, most couples end up having less than 2 kids because the housing is small, and they'll be wasting a huge part of the income just to pay for that, so not much is left to pay for education, helathcare and food (not even mentioning transportation, electricity, internet and electronic devices, which can be considered essential in today's society and are definetely not cheap, at least not here in Brazil).
Also kids are gross.
The people making decisions are at odds with what they say they want. The people want to protect children but they oppose healthcare for children, food programs, financial assistance, childcare, etc. The people want more workers but they oppose immigration. The people want the world to be like it was back in the 50's but they don't want to roll out the social programs, strong labor unions, etc. of that era.
These problems are all eminently solvable but that assumes the people in charge actually care to solve them. Which they clearly don't, because solved problems don't get you reelected. Making the problem worse gets you reelected. That's how the GOP has been getting elected because "big government doesn't work" for decades by making the government fail to work without reducing its scale.
This is the correct perspective...it's well past time for fogies to understand that they're entirely responsible for this problem, they've created a modern setting where families can no longer have a single working parent sustainably and are too stubborn/stupid to realize that paving the way to tomorrow will require subsidizing children. 90% of the jackasses will say something akin to "I did it that way, it's just how it works", but fail to recognize how different things are today to how they were when they grew up...they essentially got handed the keys to the world whilst the pay gap is worse now than it has ever been.
Capitalism exploiting its people
@@Demmrir Exactly this! Well said.
I'm 24 and paying 75% of my income just on rent. I've never worked so hard and made so much to only be worse off the following month/year. Even in a trade job, it's been impossible to save for a car, let alone an emergency.
Exactly. Look up Weimar Germany the exact living conditions which led up to WW2. We are living in the Great Depression again.
lol and look down the street at all the brand new cars driven by 40-50 year olds as a "luxury buy" that equates to your entire savings over 40 years
I reckon you live in the USA then..
@@tactknightgaming2066 Bunch of stupid Nazis blamed Communists, Socialists, Jews, homosexuals... everyone BUT themselves.
Sounds like poor decision making.
In germany we get parental leave, and 250$ per Child. PER MONTH. And Kindergardens are relatively cheap compared to the U.S.
And it's still hard.
Considering that it's a miracle to me, that people still get Kids in the U.S.
Really...
… they get thousands at tax time, free food, etc. lots of people have kids for a living and then suck off the government
@@MyriamRichardsdotter for a family, it'd hardly pay for 1 :/
I feel like this video doesn't address the underlying issue with birth rates: The cost of healthcare, the cost of taking care of a child, and the absolutely crushing lack of opportunity and uncertainty of the future, loss of faith in the society you're growing up in, and a lack of societal stability giving you confidence to procreate and ensure a stable springboard for your progeny. People have kids when they have hope, and that's at a critically low supply right now
This video doesn't address other main issues like the insane inequality in wealth distribution, where 99% of people work their whole lives to be paid miserably while 1% is swimming on gold.
Yeah just like whole comment section, what really cause the all problems? Capitalism is.This Chanel is nothing but a distraction.
Totally agree, neither does it address capitalism.
The poor have more kids both within and across countries. The cost of healthcare and taking care of a child is not the main issue at all.
Come to Germany with very cheap healthcare, free schools and universities, as well as free kindergartens in some states.
Working times are still too long (40 hour weeks are unfortunately the norm) which leaves too little time for oneself and a family
Personally, as a man living in Canada, I’d love to have kids, I’ve always wanted kids, but it’s just not possible. I can barely find a place to live for myself, I get by sleeping on different friends’ couches, often at their parent’s home, and a mix of short term rentals. There’s just nowhere to live, and owning a home is a fairytale.
I can’t raise kids and have a family when I don’t even have a roof to stably live under. It’s difficult to even start a relationship when you don’t know where you’re sleeping. And I’m lucky enough to have a great and flexible job that pays excellent wages, is very stable, and I thoroughly enjoy. I know tons of people bouncing around working minimum wage who don’t have any direction or plan. All because the life we grew up hearing about, going to school and then getting a job and then buying a house and starting a family, is becoming downright impossible.
just be honest, you don't have a gf
As?*
@@bizmasterTheSlavaaaand why should that invalidate their problems? Just because they're not contributing to the birth rate doesn't mean others aren't either
Capitalism has caused this cost of living / housing crisis by making homes speculative and wages unlivable. And yet, it’s the people who love unadulterated capitalism who are all so confused why people aren’t having kids. SMH.
@@foxtail286 go breed
Real question should be "why humans have not vanished YET"
As a Korean, no idea how we're supposed to solve this. I've spent my whole life studying the most mundane & useless shit for a college entry exam, and now I'm forced to do that again in college. Everything is exhausting cus no day offs, no holidays- I gotta work to pay rent/tuition when I'm not in school. And I'm probably not going to land a job after graduating either! (A mystery, since apparently population is shrinking) Feel like everyone around me is doing the same too. And the guys serve mandatory military service too while doing all this shit??? Literally no idea how they do it. Everyday I realize there are thousands of Koreans in worse situations than me, and none of us are stable to think about kids. Complete joke of a country, just leave us alone and we'll gladly make an example to what happens if a country fails to repopulate. Hope yall governments learn from us and start lowering housing rates!!
I feel you bro
Its easy, just give up your own tradition and lower your own rents would fix the issue.
But you guys won't, because "nationalism".
@burnjapanandrisingsunflagIk that but it’s not the main reason why we’re in this state, let’s be honest. Also could you tone down the copypasta a bit
You can solve it by destroying the corrupt government that has pinned your people beneath it's boot
@@chiaohongcheng How would us, the young working generation and basically the punching bag of Korea’s society be able to lead any major changes? Think of Canadian housing for a bit if you don’t get it.
As a Bulgarian, I find the phrase used on 3:18 "Да ти върви по вода!" which is translated literally as "Hopefully it will flow as the water" spot on! Many Bulgarians use it often to say goodbye to their relatives.
I was so surprised to see that, I wasn't expecting to find a bulgarian saying in this kind of video.
thanks for the fact!
Same here in Turkey, we say "yolun su gibi açık olsun"(may your way be open like flowing water) then spill water after someone who leaves.
I was hoping someone would translate that! I know fragments of Ukrainian, Russian, and Polish, but not enough to be functional in any of them yet...
@@WackoMcGoose A more literal translation is "I hope it goes smoothly"
Well Bulgaria has been the fastest-shrinking nation for a while, so makes sense this is the video it debuts in :P
The fact that both my wife and I need to work full time to barely afford housing and care for 1 child is probably a big part of why people in "developed" countries have smaller families
If stay-at-home parent was a job that paid decently as opposed to costing a lot, or if housing wasnt so expensive, or hell, if it was still possible for a single income to support a whole family, we wouldnt be in this mess
Ask yourself, who exactly is getting most of the wealth in these "wealthy" countries. Its not the average person wanting to have a family.
Take a look at the World Economic Forum and know that everything is going "as planned".
Boomers scorched the Earth at all fronts, they f*cked the environment on a planetary level, they modernized the exploitation system, they rigged the economy and pension systems, they retire and still vote for the populist idiots that will pander to them.
Korea is not "developed" country.
The management company at my apartment pushes the belief that it's normal for rents to increase 5-10% a year (or more). This makes me think that the housing market is the basic cause of inflation.
The extreme case is South Korea, as the lowest birthrate shows.
I'm korean and I left Korea when I was 14 to immigrate to Australia. I have to admit that life in Korea is not easy. You experience a lot of competitions from a young age and I think I genuinely struggled to stay in the race when I was at school. If you think about it, Korea is a tiny country with almost no natural resources. So you need to survive by developing exceptional intellectual skills hence why competition is so fierece. My friends who have had kids recently actually said that lower birth rate is not entirely a negative thing, because now that there are less kids, people cherish them more - instead of pushing the kids to compete to win, people want the remaining kids in the country to be happy. So I believe this has happened for a reason. Birth rate is important, but I also hope kids in Korea right now will live happily, so that when they become adults, they'll want to have kids to pass on their good memories
LIVE IN KOREA IS NOT EASY? IS IT EASY LIVE IN AFRICA WHERE THEY ARE HAVING X10000 TIMES MORE CHILDREN, WAS LIFE EASY IN THE 1950 IN KOREA WHEN KOREANS WERE HAVING X 6 TIMES MORE CHILDREN? YOU KNOW NOTHING.
Cool. I am a korean living in Canada rn and its very different
I agree! My Korean friend moved to America because of the tough situations he faced back in his country. Many has moved as well and I can’t blame them. Yes America has issues but he rather live here than back in Korea especially when he had to work and go to school there for long periods of time causing him to have a short term depression
@@lifeis7 man, that's really disheartening... well y'know what? Better be fools than heartless. I hope whoever decides to have kids and raise them with joy in their lives over there is doing well.
It really makes sense.
Boomers: "Don't have kids if you can't afford them!"
Younger generations: "ok!"
Boomers: .... 😡
lol
But actually. So many capitalists too. They’re against any sort of paid parental leave, saying “why should I pay you to have your kids?” And then they’re the ones bitching the most because they realized that it’ll be harder to become rich without workers to exploit.
I’ve seen them list children as a luxury expense alongside vacations and starbucks lmao
"Having a family is seen as a career obstacle"
Those words very accurately describe our corporate culture. It's something I and my generation just accepted because it is the way it is, but when someone spells it out like that, you really realize how wrong that kind of culture is. Corporate interests outweigh the needs of the individual and we are seeing the effects right now. Overworking and underpaying your employees may yield you short term profits, but it's gonna be a disaster for the work force in the long run.
Companies need to promote family time, mental health, and physical health, it will benefit them in the long term.
Boomers really think we live in the best time in human history, while that’s kinda true overall I’d say we’re entering a second dark age in humanity and i’d also say that’s mostly at the fault of the boomers for not providing for their kids, now we’re stuck with the present and dealing with the mess they left
Glad guy’s realize they don’t need to have a family to be happy
If I could have established a steady career with a dependable income I would have married and raised a family. When one of the bosses of my former company left to start a new company he took a $250M severance package. The current CEO makes nearly $1B a year. When I was fired I was offered 6 months severance pay--about $50K, and haven't found steady work since. I've never felt financially secure enough to enter into family obligations.
Hope you find stable work soon. :( Best of luck!
That's terrible! I hope that you are able to eventually dig yourself out of the pit you've fallen into and find a good job, may god help you.
Tax the rich!
I hope and pray for the best for your life man .May God help you
@@-C3S1UM- I turn 70 in less than 3 months so it's too late for me to start a family or establish a new career, but at least I own a nice home in a quiet, safe suburb with enough retirement income to enjoy it, so don't feel too bad for me.
As a Korean, I fully agree with the future prospect of the low birth rate. Everyone here in Korea seems to be aware of the problem but no one is coming up with solutions. People are so absorbed in getting their life together in this extremely competitive environment that they simply cannot think of having a family let alone taking care of their own family. The government is merely busy with advertising their "magic bullet" policies to solve the issue with astronomical amount of taxes that we pay. My own hot take, I don't think Korea will survive long in this mess
Hyper-capitalism dragged South Korea out of poverty, but at the same time has ruined the amount of free time available for workers, created a toxic hyper-competitive culture, and created a massive amount of stress/anxiety/burnout for both students and workers. It’s no wonder that the fertility rate is so low, because the very structure of the society is literally toxic and poisonous towards those who want to make families
Why don't you Koreans start long distance relationships and then make plans to move to another country, then years later move again to South Korea with a family and money, open a business and keep growing your country's economy?
I know it's not that simple, but you know the meaning of the word "alternative"? It means you WILL sacrifice many things for surviving. I'm from El Salvador, and many of my compatriots had to flee to USA in 1980 because of our civil war, it changed the structure of our country, and nowadays many compatriots are sending remittances to help the people in mainland.
@@anak_kucing101 not that simple bro 💀💀😭😭
@@BundpatakaNah bro it’ll be expensive but the government just has to print more money and then they can afford it 🤯
Could you ever see Korea doing a 30 hour work week while maintaining average wages?
I am a 26 years old, first jobber, in Thailand. I have calculated the amount of money needed to have 2 kids with my partner and we have already deemed it is impossible to have kids in our 30s. The cost of raising children these day are unreal and the older generation just refuse to acknowledge this fact.
Every senior I know always ask me "when will you have kids?" but when I give an honest answer of "I can't afford to have one", they all replied me with "you are overthinking" 🤦♂️
same in south korea
Elder people just want to have more relatives to be taken care of when dying 🙄
Nah. You are are overthinking. Just get one and you will see how things become visible and 'easy'
completely same in south korea, I can't believe that there are people outside of Korea who interfere with others by asking things like, "When are you going to have a baby?"
Or it's "well if you didn't spend so much on avocado toast and Starbucks!" 😂
I am turning 30 soon. Most of my 20s have been stressing about getting the right education, finding the good job which provides me with income, working hard to save money for my own house, resulting to having two burn-outs by the age of 28. I haven't had time to find a spouse, and I feel like I might end up childfree. Age cannot be reversed, and I am still 24/7 exhausted due to the last burnout, which I haven't been able to recover from. How am I supposed to raise a child when I already am exhausted, I hardly can go to the grocery store without wanting to cry and yell - not to mention how to find someone willing to make a child with me when I am like this! I would make a horrible parent.
Please trust and believe you aren’t alone. It’s not your fault it’s the way the world is 😢
Same, I suffered a burn out at 26 and I am still recovering from it. I do not even have the time or money to start dating and find someone. Unfortunately dating requires time and money which many of us do not have. Plus, incels culture has been growing sporadically. Who wants to marry someone that hates your gender?
Partner up with friends, split the cost, and ride out the wave; Ya
@@humpheryflaubert8172 yeah it’s so easy to get friends to basically marry you.
@@amyamyamy777 Marry? No I mean to split a flat, home, or whatever. But, you could take advantage of the system and marry as well. It's all pointless anyways at the end of the day.
Its mostly about income: My father bought himself the large house they raised me and my sister with a job as a technician.
Today, both me and my syster have graduations, full time jobs and still can't even dream of being able to purchase a house.
Houses in my country spiked from 180 to 900K on average in less than a single generation.
In all, we can't afford shit, surviving without burdening our parents past our 30's is already a dream, let alone having everything my parents had at 24's.
Which country do you live in may I ask?
I'm not discounting the high demand for real estate... but...
My father was born in 1942 and grew up right smack in the middle of middle class. Middle class meant he grew up in a 10' x 11' room with two brothers, all three sharing the same bedroom, meant he had to pay his way through college -- which wasn't that hard because tuition hadn't exploded in price (primarily due to the steady stream of easy-to-obtain government loans), meant they took one vacation per year where they took the one car in the family to a scenic area in the same or a neighboring state, meant he had a few shirts and a few pants at any given time, meant no smartphones, multiple TVs, videogame consoles, PCs, etc.
When I look at what middle class is today, it is tremendously opulent and luxurious by comparison -- and of course that costs a heck of a lot.
@@CharlesNauck "markets" don't have some magical autonomous will. Its merely the way people act when incentivized to in certain ways.
its the way people play the game within a very tightly predetermined (which every market in human history has been.)
(please spare me the nonsense about capitalism= less government. capitalism is and was the largest government run project in human history. capitalism is in every sense a product of highly developed modern nation states.
if the results of it are disastrous, change the rules of the game.
Christ people are dense,
sounds like auckland, new zealand where i am.
my suburb in 2002 was 180-200k, now its 800-900k
Bro is 100% Canadian
I'm 35 and I still live with three roomates who also aren't in relationships because it takes four working adults with decent job to have a condo and a couple of cars, and have enough left to cover our expenses in and save a city that has actual viable career paths. I kind of still feel like too much of a loser to date even though I have an education and a better job than most of my friends. Wages are a joke if I pick something stable with insurance, and if I want to make more money efficiently I have to take on results oriented gigs and work insanely fast... and not have benefits. It'd sure be nice if the old farts stopped gouging us all on housing and paid us for labor.
Isn't it odd...that not too long ago everyone was freaking out about over population....
i feel it went like
"dont have kids the earth is too full and you cant afford them"
"ok"
"NO WAIT"
Overpopulation is the catastrophe that you need to worry about since this world won't feed 9 billion humans.
exactly, and then the rich people were like "no who's going to make me more money" and they began spewing propaganda
The problem isn't "underpopulation", it's an imbalance between the amount of young and old people. While I don't think overpopulation is an issue, it's certainly possible for there to be overpopulation despite a declining birth rate.
Oh, people still are freaking out about it. But they're worried about immigrants replacing "native" people.
(By "native" I mean it's often the colonialist population espousing these opinions, not the actual natives. For example: the English worry about this more than the Scottish and Welsh, Americans moreso than Native Americans)
I'm 34 nurse in Italy. Working at public hospital, so doing great by nurse standards. I literally could live better 10 years ago when i was working in private retirement houses and getting 400€ less monthly than I am now. I can barely pay rent and get to next paycheck and i get to the job by foot and dont have to use a car etc, and since i have 0 social interactions out of work i dont spend money on "going out and drinks".
I would like to have a wife and a kid (perfectly 3 as it was always my dream to have 3 kids) but honestly with the wages and prices overal, I can't imagine how one to afford a house/appartment and have money to raise a child. Like ok, with 2 parents working there may be enough money for house, school, and kids extracurriculars. But then there would be no time at all to dedicate to the child.
And i dont want a kid growing up alone traumatized that his parents are not with them when they need it the most.
sad to hear, but our wages have been stagnating (or worsening) for the past 20 years, meanwhile inflation in Italy kept growing. Now a lot of Italians work to just stay afloat, the economic commitment to have kids would send a lot of families under.
We have a record of 11.5% of workers being poor (under subsistence threshold).
There is also another aspect usually ignored: having kids much later in life means the gap between generations widens: I have now 2 kids aged 11 and 8 and have to care for the two surviving grandparents, both suffering from serious illnesses caused by old age.
What once was a resource in Italy (grandparents) is fast becoming a burden.
@@MazinPaolowage stagnation, inflation, in Italy? Multiply that by 10 and you have Argentina"s reality.
@@juanpabloflores8179 Man, that's terrible to see from an ocean away, I can't imagine what would be living in it.
Also it seems that Argentina periodically takes these economic downturns.
A hug from Italy, we feel very close to Argentina: it's the Latin American country that received more immigration from Italy of all and also the country with most Italians actually living in (648.333 by the 2010 census)
My parents are both teachers. After college they quickly got lifetime contracts, took a loan, bought a house and eventually paid off the loan. Now 40 years later, with the house having lost quite a bit of (relative) value and them having reached higher positions in their schools, they would no longer be able to afford this house. So if you start now with a beginners income (and of course no lifetime contract, even in your wildest dreams) ... yeah, good luck with that. I might have a hunch as to why people were more likely to have kids back then.
@burnjapanandrisingsunflagDo you know that there are dozens of benefits that support single female households in Seoul?
Do you know that more than half of the universities where only women can attend are selected as pharmacists, one of the most coveted jobs in Korea?
A man who has cancer and weighs 170cm and weighs 48kg also goes to the army, and you know that women are not obligated to do any defense at that time?
@burnjapanandrisingsunflagDo you know that there are dozens of benefits that support single female households in Seoul?
Do you know that more than half of the universities where only women can attend are selected as pharmacists, one of the most coveted jobs in Korea?
A man who has cancer and weighs 170cm and weighs 48kg also goes to the army, and you know that women are not obligated to do any defense at that time?
@@사미타이 go away propaganda bot
Build or switch-to tiny homes? I always have got solutions, just ask!
I just want to take a moment to appreciate intelligent examination of complex issues over knee-jerk reactions.
Actually while I was visitng sweden and denmark over the summer I noticed how many children there were, and how different it felt, turns out during covid they actually experienced a small baby boom due to their policies towards child care and benefits for new parents. Ofc its not perfect but I think it is one of the few instances where a birthrate has increased a lot in a country that had falling birthrates in the recent decade!
Shocker, if parents aren't doomed to a life of poverty just to grow up a single child, they are more likely to have children. I swear the policy makers are the stupidest mfers out there, still not solving this issue.
@@suspecm6316 yet the richest countries are the ones with lowest birth rates. In Sweden and Denmark, the birth rate is 1.6~1.7, below replacement
@@suspecm6316 (you vote for those policymakers, js)
@@Gb-be9bnyeah cause both parents have to work to make ends meet and not end up in poverty. The reason that in Africa birth rates are still high is that many people there live in such poverty that they need their children to take care of them when they're old, so more kids means more helping hands.
Almost everywhere birth rates are low, even not incredibly wealthy places. Only in Africa and the Middle East is that not yet the case
@@Gb-be9bn because the "richest countries" are the ones where both parents have to worj a 9-5 to be able to afford a living. There is no time to be with the baby, no time to be with the kid, and the kid has to spen half their childhood in daycare. Lose lose for everyone.
I went to university for psychology, am working 75% in that field, and can just about afford to live in a 25 m² appartment as long as I don't get a car. If I decide to have a child, my living situation will become deeply uncertain, and I don't know if I could provide for one for that long. I know plenty of other people who live in similar situations where just affording to live on their own is already tough. While Kurzgesagt talks about how great life has become, I am wondering what they are talking about. We can barely even afford to have kids anymore now. Back then one parent could afford to support a family of 6, along with a house of their own and two cars. Of course no one is having kids anymore if you make everyone effectively too poor to support one.
Did you watch the conclusion?
Which country? I'm German, a student with a 20 hour part time job and have a pretty comfy 45 m² flat for myself and pay all my own expenses.
My girlfriend and I have deeply discussed the same problems. Initially we both agreed to wanting three kids, but especially over the course of the last year, watching economies turn to complete turmoil, cost of living becoming more and more out of reach every day, and child care being so incredibly expensive... we're no longer sure if we want kids. Not even accounting for wanting to actually enjoy our lives, take vacations, explore different countries... there's so much going against even trying. In between thinking if its even worth having kids.
“While Kurzgesagt talks about how great life has become” people like you is why we have so many problems in this world, is everything about you you and only you and your problems. And how your parents had it better than you according to you. Life has improved for people world wide in the last 50 years exponentially, you’re not the norm, you’re just an unfortunate person having a bad time.
@@kotzpennerGermany has a healthy dose of public housing which places pressure on the private market for healthy competition. This is the difference between capitalism (capital) and socialism (public ownership). Outside of the EU, the housing market is a major problem.
(Edit: video title has changed since I made this comment. Didn't used to specify Korea.)
Low wages and an obsession with infinite growth are holding us back. Over the last 30 years our effective buying power has been cut in half. If people were able to work fewer hours for more pay, they'd be able to better pursue family, careers, and their own happiness with less compromise.
how can you be married if you don't have any home am i right? housing price is sky high, inflation is the problem. i mean older days its cheaper to buy land and property, nowdays 100m2 land is already expensive in some countries. also the lifestyle now more needy, healthcare is also a problem.
The workforce doubled
The wages halved
Is either too many people working or working too much
@burnjapanandrisingsunflagKorea's security is among the best in the world and its crime rate against women is very low. Also, the average educational background of women is at the top of the list. Korea's women's rights are among the highest in the world.
feels like my buying power has been cut in half in just the last 3 years
@burnjapanandrisingsunflagMolka is pretty much an urban legend at this point. They were searching for Molkas in women's bathroom located at major train stations in Seoul and you know what happened? They found none after a whole month of intense investigation.
a lot of us don’t want to have kids, us younger generations specifically, cause we see the effects of inflation, just owning a house is the dream at this point with housing prices and taxes, people don’t get paid enough for the hours they put in, we don’t want to pass on the generational issues our family lines have, the health conditions that come along with pregnancy and how society treats pregnant women, climate change; why bring a child into a dying world that the government won’t prioritize, the educational system hasn’t been updated for forever and still needs intense work, the retirement age keeps increasing, healthcare prices are insane not to mention how much raising a human costs and how much baby supplies cost in general, the amount of creeps that just keep getting worse, more children are acting like teenagers being raised by technology; this isn’t the world we thought it would be and feels near impossible to do any of that. and why would we want to be pregnant if the healthcare system is still so crappy towards women in so many areas?? it’s not a random phenomenon it’s quite obvious why people don’t want to and honestly humans are cruel look at the planet, the meat industry, the wars, the societal issues, the double standards, facism, racism, homophobia, pedophiles, it’s all cause of us and we don’t want to add more to that if it’s gonna stay this bad. Need I go on??
to be honest, only the untra rich wouldnt understand why the population is shrinking. everyone with a job knows how expensive and hard it would be to raise a kid.
Shrinking? How long would it take you to count 8 Billion people?
@@MoneyMan28 Let me explain this. This guy is explaining from a developed country's point of view. Indicated by the ultra-rich comment he left. So a country may be experiencing a declining population, but the world as a whole isn't.
@@TJKang-fx8mt North korea is starving and tortures their people.
South korea is a small country with 52 million people. Their population density is 15 times more than the usa
@asdfsdafewf23f23여성이 살기 힘든 사회 이지랄ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
I think there are many poor people who don’t understand the topic too because it’s highly complicated
A famous Korean novelist said this. "In Korea, childbirth is a middle class culture." And it is very difficult for Korea to become a middle class in the true sense. Salaries do not increase surprisingly compared to deformedly expensive housing costs and increasingly expensive prices. Above all, the gap between Korea's small and medium-sized enterprises and large corporations is too wide. The majority of Koreans attending small and medium-sized enterprises are not subject to the standard labor welfare proposed by the state. The few elites who work for large corporations also carry out murderous schedules because they are elite. Koreans self-help as they watch the lights of corporate buildings that are still on late at night when people need to sleep. "Look at that, it's like a lighthouse." Since living alone is so fierce, Koreans are too burdened with raising children. More couples do not have children even if they get married, and many young people avoid marriage or dating because of the "high cost." Korea has the highest suicide rate among OECD countries. Now, Korea is becoming the first 'suicidal country' in the history of the world. It's sad, but it's too late. (The sentence can be awkward because it's using a translator.)
I mean children are cute and funny,I don’t think they don’t want children.
I think they are not earning more and the daily needs have gotten expensive.
Koreans should be more aggressive in cracking down corruption. Sadly there’s no time to save your brothers And sisters on N.Korea.
Yes, that is exactly the point of the matter.
The video says that the welfare system for women is the solution, but this is a wrong answer without knowing the situation in Korea.
Korea has long had many welfare programs favored by women due to the high number of female patients with depression. Nevertheless, the low birth rate situation has become serious. The cause is the misuse of statistics.
In fact, on the contrary, the low birth rate has accelerated due to institutional alienation of men. When looking at the number of Korean youth suicides, men are overwhelmingly higher than women. And by Korean culture, men do not want to be treated for depression. Rather, they try to hide it from their surrounding eyes and tend to refuse medical treatment at all.
In addition, men are obligated to take responsibility for their families by Korean culture, and salaries that do not rise compared to living prices make them give up preparing for their families. It is good that women's education and social status are rising. However, in Korea, the social status of men has been lowered, resulting in the status of women.
In Korea, women are better rewarded than men because they are only women, regardless of whether they are stupid or smart. Men who have worked more have to yield to women the compensation they deserve from the company. This is the beginning of the problem. If a woman is smart, it's not a problem, it's better. but The problem is the benefits they take away from men just because they are women. Smart Korean female CEO are also troubled by the fact that their companies don't work because of women who were promoted just because they were women.
In summary,
In order for a woman to become a mother. and she must meet and marry a man, and at least in Korea, the man must receive enough money from a company to prepare to meet and marry a woman. But, The moment the women take away men's money, men give up and eventually fewer men get married. Women will get some money but don't have children. As a result, a society where women take all the pies that men must ate will create a low birth rate. This is the process of the community collapse apart.
Can a woman with a high social status think of marrying a man who has not prepared? In the case of Korea, even women with low social status are avoiding men who have not prepared. This is because, as a woman, she does not think of raising children after marriage in a bad environment.
In conclusion, the reinforcement of gender equality policies for women in the video is a wrong solution.
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Nah just because korean feminism
@@user-w9nixo4d8zI agree
It's important to note that alot of the fear around declining birth rates are coming from companies who relie very much on cheap labour and threats that you are replacable
My guy the video also emphasized the importance of raising wages and subsidizing families. Starting to think not all of you finished the video before commenting on it
That companies will fix it by bringing immigrants to your country, don't worry...
what happened in Germany. Influx of cheap laborers and now very expensive social welfare burden to care for extended family reunification immigrants. Hospitals, schools, transport infrastructure and their retirement welfare is destroying the prison system that must deal with guests who are not suited to a highly educated society of a different Razza.
they are gonna replace people by Ai anyway so....
@@Noobmaster-sh5jn No, "they" are not.
Who are they, and who write these programming articles that make weak minded dunces believe everything that they are told ?
As if people who don't like it will put up with it.
You believe it ? OK. You can have it all.
Everyone who watches this should be aware that Kurzgesagt has an inherent corporate bias in all its videos. I would take everything stated in this video with a grain of salt.
Aren't they funded in part by Bill Gates?
Probably this the very first video of this channel I committed myself and I’ve felt the same way. It feels like they’ve done this for the interests of corporations.
@@sahicizmyeah
고령화가 되면 혁신적인 발전보다는 고령인구들의 부를 지키기 위한 쪽으로만 돌아 간다는 것이 정말 지금 한국 사회랑 잘 맞는거 같네요.
저도 정확히 말씀하신 부분이 인구감소를 더 촉진시키고 있다고 생각해서 제도적인 변화가 마련돼야 할거 같네요..
이재명 지지자들 ㅜㅜ
@@Dhguenr 이러니까 나라가 망하지
@@Dhguenr지금도 윤석열이 좋니?
@@Galaxy-zc2gx 니들도
As a 24 year old American it’s funny to see how the narrative has changed from potentially dealing with overpopulation in the future when I was a kid to countries having to deal with problems of underpopulation now very interesting to live through that change of perspective
Yes that’s true, all I remember hearing about in the past was the dangers of exploding populations, but now we get to know about this.
Technically we are having both. 10billions is crazy unsustainable.
And at the same time not enough young ones to take care of the booming pop of elderlies...
The only way out seems to get rid of the excess elderly, but good luck to have any politician pointing in that direction.
Rampant landlordism fixed overpopulation for us. Yay...?
Was it rly necessary to mention you were American? Like we don't hear enough from and about yall.
Population stabilisation and decline has been forecast for over 50 years. The "narrative" hasn't changed. The informed research has continued to evolve.
It is quite simple why this phenomenon has happened worldwide, especially in developed countries. In our grandparents' era, due to the industrial structure, they needed more human resources that didn't need to be highly educated or skilled. Quality didn't matter at that time. But in our era, low-skilled but labor-intensive jobs were quickly replaced by machines, and now it has become extremely competitive to secure employment. Parents must invest more time and resources in educating their children than before. This leads to a significant opportunity cost per child that is challenging for a household to afford. Additionally, due to the drawbacks of capitalism, our purchasing power is lower than that of our parents. We are the first generation where both parents need to work full-time and nurture their children simultaneously.
shhh you can’t point out reality on my favourite channel about how ethical capitalism will save us all
Exactly. Anyone who enjoys automation machines and technology including AI _should_ know that ultimately what it means is we will need less, much less people.
Lol, no.
It's the correlation of intelligence + societal decadence and low birth rates. People say wealth inequality, housing, economy. That's all BS. That is their intelligence, rationalizing why they can't, justifying why they won't, or their self-centeredness in living for 'experiences' in a world with distractions that inculcate people into a dopamine feedback loop. They have that luxury in decadent society devoid of culture or religion , but of consumption and consumerism.
But poor people have kids, people who suffer have kids, people with nothing have kids. Nearly half of the population in Palestine are kids. Many people in unsafe, jobless neighborhoods, relying only on welfare, people living extreme rural areas or religious/cultured people, immigrants with nothing but their clothes on their backs, they have kids.
Sweden has free healthcare and ample housing, but they don't have kids. In fact, you could give everyone everything, and I bet you they would still fall under the replenishment rate.
Yet, the dockworker making pennies off the dollar straight from Italy, with no wealthfare, getting ripped off by the mob in early 20th century America will still have several kids.
People refuse to have kids because they can't ever imagine raising kids in a world post 'climate change', yet people during the bubonic plagues, mass poverty/genocides, 100 years wars can? 😂 please spare me the BS.
Drawbacks of capitalism is a bit of a reach... Were definitely having some issues due to things being mis-managed as of late, but look at the state of our socialist counterparts!
There is definitely a lot we need to fix with our current system. But in my opinion these are issues we are yet to solve, not issues caused by capitalism. Besides housing cost which is a serious issue but once again isn't really an issue inherent to capitalism, were just at a tipping point for our particular system
@@THE_MOONMANwhy as soon as somebody mentions that modern capitalism is unsustainable, people need to go to the other side of the spectrum, nobody is rooting for full fledged communism with gulags and shit. However, the issues we are facing today are absolutely caused by unbridled capitalism.
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I am a male born in Korea and currently residing in Seoul. Korea has had a long-standing belief that men need to have certain basic assets (house, car, etc.) in order to get married. While these preparations were more achievable during past economic development periods, currently, finding stable employment and achieving financial stability takes longer. As a result, the average age of couples at recent weddings I attended was over 33 years old. The birth rate is also a concern in Korea, where tutoring is essential, and having multiple children can be financially challenging. In a society where dual-income households are the norm, maternity leave for women is often not ideal. Yeah we are fucked 😅
Furthermore, I volunteered in a Special forces unit collaborating with the NSA for a year and a half as part of my national defense duty. However, unlike the United States, the compensation was minimal, and there was a lack of societal respect.I believe these factors also contribute to the low birth rate issue in Korea.😢😢
Is your country that poorly designed that living outside of cities is near to impossible if you want to have a good life and job? Because I get this feeling that all Koreans seem to live in cities, especially Seoul. 😂
> didn't read a single line
> just wanna ask how your doing mate
Korea's low birth rate is the breakdown of the 1:1 relationship between men and women due to sexual openness.
The birth rate of married women in Korea is high.
However, there are no women who are virgins.
Conversely, 30% of 30-year-old men are virgins.
Really sad. You need try hard in Korea in Poland i can almost nothing and have plenty of time good house and two kids. It is good life in europe
I remembered when back in the day people were talking about overpopulation a lot of experts said that the human population will average out at around 8-9 Billion. Props to them for getting their estimates right!
The estimates I was hearing in 2001 were more like 13 billion.
Also Africa has been pushing education massively in the last 30 years. These people learned about contraceptives, about abortions and about the importance of a degree. The birthrates in some african countries went down by a very high percentage. Meanwhile in more western countries and just industrial countries in general are just realising that its too expensive OR that it just isnt worth getting kids because of how shitty the world is. I know like 3 people (including myself) that dont want kids just because they think its immoral to bring kids into such a shitty world.
@@itcamefromthedeep The "top out" population has been 10 to 12 billion for the past 40 years. You always had some nuts saying ridiculous things like 100 billion, but you can't take the outliers seriously. Look at the consensus.
We don't need more people. Just move people from the parts of he world that will be inhabitable because of climate change. Move people from the global south to the global north. Don't have more people. The world as we know it will not survive. And they were right about overpopulation. Some just want more people to produce more and make billionaires richer. Meanwhile the average joe is suffering and the environment is destroyed.
Nonsense, population estimates have always been higher than that, and they still are.
Unaffordable housing is a huge issue imo ( at least here in the UK). House prices are obscene which has forced millions into the rental market, or back home to live with their family. In this situation, it is hardly surprisingly that having children is no longer a priority. Just one reason amongst many.
Rent is a homeowner's mortgage payment obligation plus some profit... so THINK ABOUT IT... It is always cheaper to OWN than to RENT.
It’s not that I like that people are not populating, it’s rather, that I can’t afford them, so I won’t have them. So, oh well. 🤷🏻♂️
I am a Korean born in the 1993. When I graduated from elementary school in 2004, the total number of students was about 2,000.
But now the elementary school has 146 students. In just 19 years, the number of elementary school students has decreased by 13 times.
What a record. This is even phenomenal
I'm a Korean too, but they still have 2000 students in my elementary school uh maybe because it's in Seoul?...
@@AlexKim-s5z probably because as the population decreases people move into the cities
I just hope its not permanent but I can't help but see Korean people and see a bunch of very ambitious young adults who are under immense pressure to reach an ideal perfection. Instead of looking within, it seems the world looks with out and loses self identity for esteem within common globalized cults of cooperate branding and sanctioned behaviors. Its safer to be there running the race than to be alone on the outside as lagging behind vocationally on a global scale has hellish consequences...
I am also a Korean who goes to middle school and there are almost 1000 students in my school it don't make sense is it?
AND YOU AS A YOUNG KOREAN SHOULD BE ASHAMED FOR YOUR GENERATION THAT WILL CAUSE THE COLLAPSE OF THE KOREAN CIVILIZATION.
I've been finding that a large portion of the reasoning for not wanting to have children in many countries now by my generation is that it's become hard to sustain ourselves, let alone a family. Housing is not a realistic goal, jobs are much harder to get, education is questionable, and ethics have become a joke. We are a generation more connected because of the internet, but because of this availability of information, we've been able to see more of what's going on around us. I personally am terrified of the lack of ethics and planning for our future right now by the people in charge, as I don't feel comfortable bringing someone else into this mess right now.
As the wage gaps continue to expand between the rich and poor, the old and youth, there seems to be MUCH less focus on long-term sustainability and infrastructure, which leads a majority of the generation to not have the same ambitions or to be left scared and confused about what's actually possible anymore.
Really stupid how humans of decades ago were afraid of overpopulation and decided to do dumb things like one child policy, then when population starts going down, they start doom mongering about decreasing population.
Just add parental support into the laws. Every child has to pay 10% of their income to their parents. Then you can take a mortgage for 18 years to cover child raising costs and then use the parental support payments to payoff the mortgage. if you mess up and your children become bums you will be stuck with the mortgage. But if you do a good job and your children become productive members of society you will make a profit on the investment.
@@prabuddhaghosh7022yes nice idea and then the next generation has even less resources to spend during the most crucial years of their development, all the while already having to support the weight of an overaged population.
@@prabuddhaghosh7022 The fact that you unironically tried to make an argument for making kids an investment as in an actual piece of legally binding asset disgusts me to no end. Perhaps it is better you don't have children no matter how bad the decline in population is.
@@prabuddhaghosh702210%!? The taxes are insanity anyway!
Japan already does two out of the three suggestions provided at the end of the video: free child care for workers and monthly payments that starts high and ends lower when the kid turns 18. However, the housing issue still stops people from making families, since rents are often a third of a workers salary for small apartments that usually don't allow kids; for that rents are even higher. And buying a home is achievable, but with a lifetime of payments and being in debt. Another hardship still is that unlike your age when you sign-in into student debt (which ALSO is a issue in Japan), mortgage for a home would start at a later stage in life
I live in Japan. A problem that also exists is that a lot of women cannot find a stable partner / husband to have a family with. I've met women in bars well into their 30s that are scared their biological clock to have kids will run out
"a third of a workers salary for small apartments" *laughs in North American*
Japan has the lowest cost of housing in the developed world. They built more new apartments in Tokyo than they had people move into the city last year.
If housing is prohibitive in Japan then housing is just never going to be solved.
They only pay a third of their income in rent? If I could be so lucky
@@starfox300what would be a typical source of instability? My impression of japan is that life is rather “scripted” by social and economic pressures, which at the least ought to make stability a lesser concern?
I've watched a bunch of these videos, and I'm not convinced. There would definitely be a painful adjustment period, but the planet needs a break.
As a Korean I think it has something to do with how Korean teens have had the lowest life satisfaction rates for years. I've heard a lot of people say they don't want to make their future children go through what they had to in Korean schools. Newlyweds are usually in their late 20s~mid 30s so I think a major part of what they base their expectations of what their children's life is going to be is their own childhood and early adulthood, and as a 25 year old life has been nothing but soooo hard since the 1st year of middle school...
And it takes most or all their 20s even to 30s to get a stable/proper job to be able to raise a family
@burnjapanandrisingsunflagThere are definitely changes to be made for women, but don't talk like that's the main cause of the problem. South Korea isn't the only country with gender problems, and sexual crimes happen literally in every country. You're implying that Korea's a misogynistic country tailored for men in the expense of women, but men's lives aren't a walk in the park either. The suicidal rate of Korean men is 2.6 times higher than Korean women, and need I remind you that South Korea is one of the few countries where military conscription is still exclusively mandatory to men?
@@HappB5 Ignore - but first report - that spam account
@burnjapanandrisingsunflag stop acting like a troll dude.
@burnjapanandrisingsunflagYeah and he also said 9:08 'especially women are freer, more educated, and wealthier than in the past'. Seriously if that's the sole conclusion you're determined to jump to after watching this whole video, you need help.
It's amazing how few years ago everyone was so afraid of overpopulation and now we are facing the exact opposite problem.
Math is cruesome if you understand exponential functions :)
Exactly... More people equals more environmental destruction, more pollution and less resources per person.
@@raptoress6131 and less people equals the entire economic collapse of all civilization. And remember, to fix climate change WE NEED more people, not less people.
After all, we are going to need more minds working on fixes and more people to do the job.
the earth almost has unlimited resources. We could literally never ever use it all up, because the the earth is regenerative in nature. Matter is neither created nor destroyed, meaning none of the resource we use is ever truly lost just changed. Plus the sun keeps giving us more resource to work with meaning it's actually almost a net positive. @@raptoress6131
@@Rafael96xD The problem is WHO is WHERE. If the young and motivated continue to flood into the places where labor is needed, fine. But the people who object to that are the OLD who want the Shining Cities on the Hill to be their retirement home that they lord over. The answer?
Ship the Old and Not Working to the countries the Young immigrants abandoned.
I’m not Korean, I’m Singaporean. However, after just a few minutes into this video, I felt like it hit home. I’m actually only 13, but the amount of stress I see in my peers is so insanely frustrating. Many parents constantly put their child through extra tuition, and if you only have 1 or 2 subjects of extra lessons, you’re already considered extremely “fortunate”. I’ve seen parents chiding their child for getting less than 95, or sending their 7 year old for tuition for all subjects.
Not to mention, even co-curricular activities (basically clubs in school like badminton) has an effect on your national examination score (which will determine which Junior College you end up in, because people rarely want to go to the less “prestigious” polytechnics). You have to make sure you do charity, have a leadership role in your CCA (club), stay in the same one through your entire secondary school life, and have a close to 100% attendance or be looked down on (aren’t CCAs supposed to be stress-relievers? not some other variation of torture we have to go through 2-3 times a week or more)
In fact, i’m not even “qualified” to be sharing my experiences, because according to this system I had it easy. Our first national exams start at 12 years old, and many people already start preparing as young as 7. This is the infamous PSLE, which will determine which secondary school we will end up in. Of course, they vary in “eliteness”, and you will be heavily judged based on what school you go to. Basically, we put 12 year olds into a nationwide exam and put the immense pressure on them to do well (which means at least above 85 for all subjects because elite schools want nothing less). We can’t forget the amount of practice papers and tuition everyday (most kids that age sleep at 11pm-12am).
According to my PSLE grades, I am not a student of good caliber, and was immediately sent to a secondary school I barely knew existed. Sure, my parents were disappointed, and I can’t say I wasn’t either. However, none of these things really matter, and plus i’m enjoying my school life right now. I’d much rather be in a non-elite school than slave away for the next four or six years, slogging through exam practices at 1am.
for those who read until here, i’m really thankful you took your time to listen to my rant lmao
i feel really sad for my friends as I hear them laugh about their insomnia or them crying to sleep because “at least their grades are better”
I do sympathise with you. It is a mistake that we do that we do not allow the children to enjoy this earth despite our control of it.
I’m a Singaporean completing my degree in Sydney, Australia. All the points regarding stress you have made are well founded, I too shared similar views about standardised testing. However, since exposure to international (western) education systems, I believe that the Singaporean system is a relatively good balance between east and west education philosophies. Standardised testing is a relatively fair and accurate method of assessing one’s ability in later stages of education. (Basically, if you don’t do well in standardised tests at level 1, it is unlikely you would do well in level2)The development of technical education in ITE and polytechnics have made strides towards providing alternative routes to success and I encourage you to explore these options as I myself decided to attend a polytechnic instead of a junior college despite scoring decently in my O levels (L1R5 of 12). Also, if you’re dreading attending CCAs, you should probably consider switching to something you are actually interested in. Studying in Singapore will probably be the easiest thing you will have to do in your life as a Singaporean. The fact is we do not have any natural advantages as a country and our human resources which in large part is dependent on our top ranking education system is critical for our nation to stay competitive.
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I wish i was smart like you when i had 13 years, be proud of yourself.
Since you are young, a definite advice I can recommend is to find a form of career you love. Most education system focus on too many shallow subjects, it became worthless in real value. Spending your time to explore things you really want to purse is more important than getting good grades.
Having kids was always hard, poverty, death, disease and hunger and ware always around since the dawn of time. We have it significantly better now than any of our ancestors before us, but the difference is now we have safe and easily available contraceptive options and most people refuse to bring a child into the world if they cant provide a good standard of living for both the parents and the children. It's easy to understand but hard to fix
It was not "always thus": a mere look at metrics regarding purchasing power and living standards (for example, house price to income ratio) would have told you there were several times in the 20th century where raising a child was much more affordable. Once wages get depressed and housing costs keep increasing it becomes impossible to contemplate.
I would like to contribute my point of view on this matter. I'm from Brazil, and both my maternal and paternal grandparents had between 6 to 13 children. It was very common in their time for women to give birth at a young age, around 20 years old, and they would have many children. They didn't lead luxurious lives, and a lot of people raised chickens, pigs, cattle, and vegetables to help with their daily diet. They were from a time when women didn't work; only the men would provide for everyone in the family, and yet they managed to live a humble life.
Then, people from the same age group as my parents (now in their 60s) had between 1 to 4 children, and they still struggled to maintain their households. Despite having fewer children, they no longer cultivated crops or raised cattle as people migrated to urban jobs. Even with women joining the workforce, they still struggled to have a decent life.
Now, I'm the first in my close social circle to have children. We're in our 30s to 40s now, and most don't want to have children. Both my wife and I work, and we barely manage to have a decent life with just one child.
So, raising a family is becoming increasingly expensive over the span of 100 years. The cost of living, healthcare, entertainment - everything is on the rise. If my grandparents had 13 children today, without any support and with just one person working, they would starve.
In overall, there is general feeling that our grandparents could do more with less. I will also leave a random information here:
The richest 1% in the world kept almost 2/3 of all wealth generated since 2020 - around US$42 trillion.
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Here's the thing, women were always working. The issue is everyone being aware of such. Running the affairs of a household and raising children is no small task and is a proper full-time job in itself if done correctly. But it's not valued properly by modern society in the scheme of things. That type of job which is necessary has its time demands unmet when the current social order pushes things into requiring two incomes to afford housing and most necessities as they are in the developed world. Thus compensated labor stole away from the requirement of "uncompensated" labor as needed for society to actually function. (Uncompensated is in quotes, because any couple that recognizes the importance of what is done at home is going to cover the costs of the at-home spouse to take care of needs and keep them happy. So it's "uncompensated" in the regards to how economic book-keeping is usually done for tracking income.)
why does everyone bring up wealth? poorer nations have more kids and poorer ppl in western society have more kids than the 1%
Yeah most of the wealth going to such a small portion of people is an insane issue, just imagine if those people just gave up half of their income to give back to their employees. Maybe people would actually be able to afford shit these days.
It's more expensive in cities tfs
as a korean I am really surprised you guys made video about this. made me even more aware of how fucked up we are.
Why don't you guys all just accept the inevitable and let your country die out?
Its because of the radical feminism dividing genders and making men and women not want to have kids
It's ok though, you guys have NewJeans. All is well.
i mean honestly it doesnt matter whether you korean or as a specific citizens
eyy fellow korean lmao
same though, genuinely was not aware that it would get this bad... Like I heard some people talking about it but they sounded as if they were trying to be racist so I ignored it, but holy shit it's really gotten serious
When would you even have the time to properly raise a kid when 1 job in the family isn't close to maintain them.
Get back to work
One of the biggest issues I have is that people are already finding it hard to take care of themselves so having a kid would just burden them financially more. High rent with the costs of owning cars due to city's being built around boxes of metal keeps us chained to that system. In the end the cost of living vs average wages is too high.
Just a minor correction:
Not too high, too disparate.
@@SarahizahhsumA man in Korea has to spend more than a year and a half without pay in the military. But in Korean society, the treatment of soldiers is treated like street dogs. And when you get married, a man has to buy a house, which costs more than $400,000. $400,000 at 30 and serving in the military service? Is this practically possible? But if you don't do this, you're a failure in society
That isn't the cause of low birth rates. Have you looked at the lives of the poor? Or the past? Worse inequality, worse circumstances. And yet people still had and have (in the case of poor nations) kids. The flipside of this is also seen - even the super rich don't have large families. Not even most billionaires do. And programs to incentivize birth, including just giving people cash, have largely failed.
@@ArawnOfAnnwn Everyone has their own reasons, I am just sharing another prospective
@@Sarahizahhsum true, mb bro
Cost of living is so high now that having kids is a freaking luxury. My kid’s full time daycare is just 100 dollars less than my mortgage for a townhouse in a nice area.
Japan and Korea are interesting cases in the sense that they are both currently excerting a massive cultural pressure outwards, while at the same time their economic and political weights are declining due to population. It's interesting to think about a far future where Korean/Japanese customs, food and other cultural features may be globally commonplace, and yet people with these ethnicities will be more and more uncommon.
Thats the future for insecure cultures.
Who cares lol
@@FlyingMonet i think Flying Monet cares enough to comment.
@@freebird6591"insecure"?
@@freebird6591what's insecure culture supposed to mean?
"Why wouldn't this be the problem we can't solve".
Because at a certain point, we are going to hit the threshold where we are putting too much money into taking care of the elderly, dealing with crumbling infrastructure, and no spare income for raising kids.
The longer we put this off, the more drastic the measures we will have to put in place.
To be blunt, i don't think anyone in my generation will get to retire. We will have to work until we die to cover the burdens.Whether that means we die earlier, or work longer, is somewhat immaterial i suppose.
True. This will inevitably be the problem we couldn't solve because it's easier coming up with a scientific solution to a hard problem than everybody in the world agreeing that "greed is bad".
@@generic-channel It's at least partly a "high standards problem".
Many historical cultures around the world would basically leave the old sick people to die, and throw some stale bread or whatever at the children and hope some survived.
Having the medical tech to enable long retirements is a historical abberation.
As for your generation. All sorts of really strange and powerful new things could be invented before you get to retirement age. Imagine in 20 years time, scientists have a pill that cures ageing (Research is ongoing, promising results in rats) Or maybe AI and robotics is so sophisticated that the AI takes over the world. Or something.
There is an easy solution to this.... or rather "was". Current pension system is a pyramid scheme that relies on people always having multiple children. Your money doesn't get saved on your personal account for your pension, it gets paid out to current pensioners. Actually this isn't even enough so the pension system (or healthcare, funded by similar mechanism) needs to be saved by stealing money from VAT or fuel tax.
Fixing it now is pretty much impossible.. working people don't have enough money to fund both own retirement and current retirees. Except for the top earners ofc, but to them pension doesn't matter that much anyway, will have enough stock and housing assets to retire safely even without govt. pension.
The final solution = Soylent Green
I mean if it gets really bad we could always create a breeding program as a last resort it’s immoral and dehumanizing but it could work
I feel like the ultimate problem is cost of living. Not only is starting a family too expensive, but how are you gonna go out and find your future partner when you can't afford to do anything?
If we want people to start families then the young should be in cities (living there, not commuting there) and everything should be within walking distance. They should also have plenty of free time and they shouldn't be worked to the point they're exhausted every day.
Humanity has essentially optimized civilization to discourage or prevent the formation of families.
Ahhh yes. People only date and have kids in cities. What a silly take.
@@flavioa6351 No, it's that cities are more economically productive while also having a higher and cheaper capacity to be a supportive infrastructure for a family, if well designed. It should be noted though that, in America, cities fail in numerous ways due to poor design, and because resources are disproportionately drawn from cities in order to prop up extremely expensive suburban and rural areas through subsidy. This ties in to the comment the OP made that people shouldn't have to commute there; transport infrastructure is reliant on cars which is another massive drain on the time and money that would be much better spent improving the lives of (especially) young people that need it for a family.
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Why do the poorest peoples and nations have the most children then? Look for your answers elsewhere
@@PanopticonMindBecause the consumption system brainwashes ppl mind that you are supposed to keep spending money on your whims.
@@PanopticonMindbecause lower HDI scores lead to more a higher birth rate because, the infant mortality rate will be higher and the need for more labor to generate money.
Like did you never take a human geo or world geo class?
9:41 This is so me. A young and motivated individual from a poor country looking for a better opportunity on a developed (first world) country. lol
Back in the 50s, 60s and 70s whole families could be provided by one working parent, even if that parent has a crappy job. It's very easy to start a family back then. Nowadays everything has become so much more expensive, especially renting and housing so that both partners typically have to work full time and don't have the time or money for children. The solution obviously would be to increase pay and close back the wealth gap between the rich and the poor like how it was 50+ years ago, but rich people fight tooth and nail so they can have their 5th yacht made of gold so I don't see that happening.
A politician in Nigeria: "all we have to do is increase pay for workers by 5000% (50x) to the US median income, and then people will be able to afford to have more kids!"
Don't blame the rich. You can blame people who think they're rich but aren't (say, between 30 and 90% percentiles between wealth, who have voting power in a democracy but think they benefit from inequality), but this isn't ultimately a problem where blaming people is productive. If we really thought low fertility was a problem, the solution would be obvious: copy the societies that have high fertility rates by making ourselves poor, by giving all our wealth away (such as to those societies which are currently poor). If we can't agree that it's a big problem, then it's a reasonable explanation that we have low fertility because a lot of people are fine with society having low fertility, and there's no need to blame anyone other than the majority.
Just fyi, none of what you said is necessarily true and isn’t even supported by data. I’ll speak from a US perspective, but wealth inequality is lower now than it was in the 50s-70s.
More people now as % of population have a tertiary education vs back then also. Your perception is just warped by media, more people are going to and affording university now then any point in time. Median college degree only costs $25k to $35k from a public university, even less after the avg financial aid given out. This is great considering the median salary for a college graduates is ~$45k!! Even if their job isn’t in what they got their degree in.
homes have gone up relative to median household income, BUT our homes now are 2.3x bigger on median than back then. Median house in the us during that period was only 900ish square feet, while now it’s closer to 2000 square ft for new builds. (A lot of areas it’s illegal now to build something smaller than 2000 square ft, specifically in most of those expensive HCOL suburbs.)
Healthcare costs are high but also, the median American is more unhealthy. We don’t have any laws like other countries (Japan has a fat tax to offset healthcare costs and to promote overall health!) to offset these costs and promote healthy behavior. You might argue and so would a lot of Americans that those kind of laws would be unfair because it doesn’t allow them to do whatever, but the problem is healthcare is a shared cost amongst society. We need to promote healthy habits somehow.
@@RiskyDramaUploads It's interesting you picked a random quote that isn't related at all to the situations going on in most first world countries and based your entire argument on that. No, the solution is not to make ourselves poor. In the US, one of the most common arguments for why people don't want kids is financial instability and insecurity. Get a grip and make points based on reality instead of your headcanon
More pay just means inflation if the average population is paid more. Giving new parents money is better just to give people a head start.
Great, the communists are back because the rich made a mistake and accidentally made everyone a little too miserable to stand them anymore
I'm working myself dead tired every day at a factory just to afford an old 1 bed 1 bath apartment, and I can't even afford internet or health insurance, what the fuck am I gonna do with a child?
Where do you live?
@@rubevinI would guess America, likely a major city where they were able to find a “well paid” job…
"no one owes their country babies" exactly
It’s not even financially responsible to have kids anymore
And the poor will do it any way.
i would take the "financially" out of that phrase. it's not even responsible to have kids anymore.
a lot of people that can have kids shouldn't! so many kids get fucked up by their parents who were fucked up by their parents and so on. society needs a major reset that it will never get cause many people only care about themselves.
@@loganshaw4527 now they are learning not to have kids
poor people who struggle to feed themselves:
"imma pretend i didnt see that"
As a Korean, I feel good that K-pop and K-Drama are popular around the world, but I feel a little bitter because Koreans are not happy in the real world, so it seems like such a culture is developing as a fantasy or liberation zone. . Korea is convenient and safe to live in, but competition is fiercer than any other country, and the phenomenon of the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer is worsening, so it is by no means a happy country.
That’s why you guys don’t have any mental therapy. You think plastic surgery will fix all Of your problems. No wonder you have suicides.
Those are the very sources that are destroying your nation, you're being corrupted by the USA and it's turning your women into feminists and and men into activists. Stop giving into these poisonous sources of entertainment and embrace your culture and people for the past, not some western agenda of the future that promotes mixing of your people with ours and rewrites your history to some western fetishization of a melting pot.
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where in the world is this not happening though? rising costs everywhere making it almost impossible to save to have what our parents had. its not just korea.
The population is going down but i can't even find a house that doesn't get snatched up the SECOND i try to make a move on it
This video appeared on Korea News YTN.This video explains Korea's problems well, and it has influenced to further awaken Koreans' awareness.
Thank you for making the video!
The sentence may be awkward by turning the translator.
Nah, wasn't awkward at all.
Korean Women's Statistics No. 1 in traveling prostitution in the world No. 1 in renewed abortions No. 1 in STDs in history (4 times more than men) Lowest material index No. 1 in luxury consumption No. 1 birth rate in old age No. 1 in divorce rate Asia No. 1 in newborns with disabilities 28.5 percent.
It's not a matter of fertility, and most Korean men have no intention of marrying or even dating Korean women.
In a country with 1.2 million traveling prostitutes, an STD rate of more than 50 percent, and more than 1 million women having abortions a year, there are no more men willing to make the world's most expensive contract and lose their entire life savings.
Coming from Canada, I'm not having more than one child because A) I can't afford it, and B) the healthcare is so lacking here it's scary - both me and my baby almost died in childbirth thanks to medical negligence so I'm not putting myself at risk like that again.
As a fellow Canadian I can validate this, sadly
My parents are from Africa, where the birthrate is still much higher than in the west. That is to say it is not objectively not having money or objectively having poor health csre that leads to them not having children. It is cultural perceptions of the lifestyle one wants to have and placing that above having children. Which is fine when chosing not to have 5 kids. It'll have consequences if too many people use that to choose to have only one or no kids
I can't disagree that healthcare is lacking in Canada (and everywhere else to varying degrees, sadly... I've lived in both Canada and the US, and healthcare in the US is, if anything, even more shit just in different ways), but I have to address the unspoken assumption in your statement.
While healthcare in Canada could be better managed to improve results, any healthcare system will ALWAYS be in an scarcity situation. No matter how much money we dump in, no matter how technologically advanced we become, healthcare will always have the "feel" of not being good enough. Why? There are many reasons, but just to name one: there will always be an old, cheap treatment for any given illness that doesn't work well, an expensive current treatment that works but is harder to come by, and a just-over-the-horizon newly discovered (or under research) treatment that is so expensive that it isn't possible to commercialize it, so it's only available to the richest of the rich.
So no matter what time period you pick, no matter how much money you dump into the system, you'll always have new, more effective treatments that are not available to the masses, but can still be obtained by people with obscene amounts of resources to call upon (either money or power). And no system, private or public, can pay for a new treatment that still costs a billion dollars a person. No insurance company can (or even could) cover that, no provincial health system can afford that. So you'll always have to watch your poor child die from a disease that is technically treatable (and whose treatment will be cheap enough for the health system to purchase for the masses after a few more decades of research), while Bill Gates gets to see his grandchild with the same illness live.
So yes, we can reform the number of hours doctors work, how many people are put into medical school (and how such schools work and are paid for), how patient interactions happen, how prescribes medications (pharmacists should prescribe a *great* many things without the need for a doctor), etc etc etc, but even when we have a system that is as perfect as perfect can be, it will never *feel* perfect to any of us. That's just the nature of things.
Health care is lacking in Canada? For real? I thought you can even cure cancer for free in Canada 😅
So couple updates...
A) I'm not talking about new treatments, my baby and I almost died from completely preventable, known causes.
B) I'm not saying it's too expensive because I like to enjoy frequent lattes or travel. I am permanently disabled thanks to medical negligence so, while I used to be a salaried professional, I now live on disability welfare, which isn't enough to feed myself 3 squares or buy all of the medications and devices I need that aren't covered by our 'free' healthcare. I've already forgone such luxuries as buying new underwear and warm clothing for myself, I don't own a single pair of socks and my one pair of shoes has giant holes in them. I can't repair the open cavity I have in my mouth or the glasses I'd be blind without that have a huge break in one lense, a broken nose pad, and half the coating rubbed off. Please stop telling me I'm selfish or living in luxury, you're delusional.
The effect of an aging population is felt very strongly in Greece. For years our politicians have mostly catered to retirees and government employees and that's been enough to get them elected. But the burden of the system has been felt by the younger generation who, for the most part, have just left the country, leaving even fewer people to support the aging population. It's negative feedback loop at this point.
positive feedback you mean. negative feedback is when the result of the stimulus decreases the stimulus, like if you have a temperature controlled AC or heater unit, detecting a large enough change in temperature away from the target triggers the control mechanism to turn on the heating or cooling cycle, which changes the temperature back.
For your edification: a cycle that reinforces itself (in this case, politicians catering to retirees, making it hard for young people, young people leave, which means more catering to biggest voter base of retirees, etc.) is a positive feedback loop! I thought your comment was very insightful, so I just wanted to share that ☺️
yup, and when you have so many pensioners they will only vote for conservative governments that benefit the elders mostly, so go figure...
This exact comment, verbatim, is already posted here. Why is this a copy?
I don’t know… when having a family is a huge financial decision and inflation is going wild, don’t forget wages! It’s pretty obvious why this is happening.
poor africans earn 100x less and have 10x more children. it's not wages, it's that we are living way above our means and most people would not trade their standard of living for a few more kids
@@marusdod3685 yeah I'm African and let me tell you it isn't great here I'd much rather not have children than to make them live the way I do now
@@marusdod3685very different dynamics
Don't forget smartphone addiction which is making the younger generation more and more introverted and less and less able to properly communicate "in person". How can people get together if they are too nervous to even speak?
@@marusdod3685 As someone who has experienced poverty in Africa, I want to emphasize that individuals in such situations often find themselves with plenty of free time. In the absence of significant opportunities and when you are primarily surrounded by peers, it is common for people to engage in intimate relationships. This tendency prevails as long as you have a stable job and your small garden yields sufficient produce; people's primary focus tends to revolve around just having sex
I feel like the culture of individualism is in part due to the 40+ hour work week. When you’re finally done working, you’re not always excited to also make dinner, clean the house, do errands… much less take care of a child. So we currently value the free time we do have way more than before, leading to more individualistic ambitions. I’d argue that a shorter work week could be beneficial in many ways; for existing parents, but also for couples trying to find the time to have children at all!
In the end it is a desicion based on money. If you can afford to work less hours, you do so if possible.
What could be an idea: Between ages 20 to 40 the amount of taxes you need to pay gets minimalized, if you are having a child and reduce your work balance. Resullting in the same amount of money after taxes as before, but with more freetime. This may seem economic BS in the short run, but having more young people stabilize the system later on would be a benefit. Plus stable families create stable children. I'm a teacher and having intact families to work with is rare :(
This, plus falling pay rates. My parents could afford a home and three kids at my age as a mechanic and a secretary who was even able to quit and be a SAHM. I'm a software developer making above average for my experience level and I'm still at least 5 years from a house let alone a single child. Besides which, what kind of life is that for a kid? Mom and Dad drop them at day care and then are zombies after 8-10 hour shifts? But hey, at least my boss can afford a yacht - haven't seen him at work in months, bet he's enjoying life.
Does not even have to be a shorter work week. If we all got paid vacations, paid sick leave, paid maturity leave for both parents. Of course, if everyone at work got raises based on the profits of a business would help also.
The 40 hour work week is an improvement to what we had before though...
People in the past may have been working 60-80 hour work weeks away from home and birth rates were growing, so it can't be this
@@noamuth89 Sadly, taxes are such a small part of most young people's income that I doubt this would measurably impact birth rates. You would have to make a negative tax rate, which we already have in America as the EITC, but this is still not substantial enough to have a major impact. Even then, if you are run ragged by work, there won't be a stable household for the kids.
If people have hope for the future and security in the present they will have kids. We have to take more directed action to help young people afford to buy a house and promote job security.
Great video!
Personally I'm disgusted when I hear people say that you shouldn't have kids because less humans = a healthier earth.
What is Earth without humans (and any life for that matter)?
Just another lifeless rock floating in a sea of an unconscious universe.
Plenty of people have pointed out that low wages and high costs of living are huge deterrents to having kids. I'd like to point out another: low parental leave. Parental leave laws are awful in the U.S. and not much better in Canada. It's also necessary for parental leave to be available to both mothers and fathers; if only the mother gets time off, the discrepancy in hours at work will favour men and reinforce the pay gap. Also, with no paternal leave, that's half as much adult time and effort the mother can expect for help raising an infant, making parenthood less appealing. Good parental leave, for both parents, makes a big difference.
Is there any country with good parental leave law?
unfortunately parental leave makes it more likely for businesses to hire men. If you then force companies to hire women at an equal rate, you get an unbalanced free market, so it's very tricky.
@@tomhunt5152Uh men should have parental leave too? Men are parents too? Paternal and Maternal leave should both be mandatory and are both just as important. Companies won't discriminate because they know they'll have to give parental leave regardless of the candidate's gender.
The primary issue of parental leave is still centered around income. Uncertainty around maintaining employment.
I'm afraid that European countries with good parental leave policies have lower birth rates than USA. While I agree parental leave is important, the reality does not support your premise.
I'm disappointed that the cost of living wasn't addressed as one of the major factors. The cost of self-sustainability and homes are rising expontentially, outpacing the increase in wages. Without the stability of home ownership, who in the right mind would have children? Have you done your research in South Korea's housing market?
Same here, kinda sus that the only solution they provide is immigration... rather than addressing the root causes that u noted.
@@gregzamora5262 But they did? It was explicitly stated that immigration may be a start but not sustainable in the long run and in the end they even said that the only long term methods to increase birth rates again are free child care, financial benefits for parents and MORE AND CHEAPER HOUSING.
@@gregzamora5262 And the fact that mass immigration is part of the problem. It fixes nothing and instead makes the problems worse. Mass Immigration drives down wages and drives up rent. For example, in the UK wages for drivers and builders has gone up drastically since brexit. Mass Immigration was used to keep the native working class wages down. New housing wasn't built to match the rate of immigration therefore driving up rent. Funny how they keep people poor and label them as racists for what are blatant attacks on their economic well being and sense of community and then they turn around confused "why aren't people having kids" and "why won't they vote for us". Ultimately, while the details are different, the story is the same everywhere. Every country is run by people who extract wealth from the majority of the population. To maintain or improve their own position they suck more wealth out of the majority driving them further into poverty. In an educated society with access to birth control people stop having kids because they can't afford to raise kids to the standard they want.
Ultimately, the problems are systemic, but also part of the ruling class' method of maintaining power. If a rulling class' wealth is built on rent extraction, the last thing they will do is reduce rental prices and instead will drive it up. If the rulling class' method of maintaining power is running a business then they will decrease wages and increase working hours. If a ruling class' method of maintaining power is division and internal social conflict, then they will promote immigration and support anti-majority policies.
Ultimately, people are having less children because A some people just don't want kids and want to enjoy their lives, but B is because the ruling class of every country is systematically built in a way that makes life for the majority unpleasant and difficult. That ruling class then promotes a media and ideaology so their destructive behaviours are now seen as good and opposition as evil, ignorant, or crazy. No different from how slavers tried to promote slavery as a social benefit. Kurzgesagt's may be looking around at the problems, but is obviously part of a group who are "upper class" enough to see mass immigration as a positive, or otherwise believers in the idealogy promoted by those from that social class.
To be fair, Kurzgesagt does accurately point out that simply hiding the problems with immigration isnt the answer either and point to changing society to make it easier to raise children. But it is very telling that they only refer to immigration as a positive rather than A Part of the problem or B a short term cover to mask other problems.
Similar with women in the work place. Most of the families I know, the women would happily give up their "career" (which for most people is a dead-end job they don't enjoy) to fully focus on supporting their family and raising their children. All this female empowerment is a cover for getting twice as many people working, again driving down wages, so now two parents work for an income that is barely comparitively more than a single man's income from two generations ago. A mother with a career should be an option, not the default where a house-wife is seen as an abberation. If all this social change was for our benefit they would instead have normalised house-husbands or two parents working part time as valid options. Instead they've normalised two full time workers with children being a secondary concern (and mass migration further decreasing wages and increasing costs).
So all in all, you have two huge changes that have drastically harmed social fabric and reduced the wealth per hour worked for the majority, that many people increasingly realise is a weapon used against them, but like most media and supporters of the current political system, are unwilling to call it out for what it is.
10:45 They're literally talking about reducing child costs. Please give this comment 144 likes. Poor humanity.
I, for one, am simply too poor to have and raise even one kid.
This video makes me very happy.
Housing prices are getting more expensive and prices are rising, but wages remain the same and the income gap is getting worse. This is not just a Korean problem; it is slowly progressing in all countries. I think this is a problem which is almost a difficult corundum as all the causes and causal relationships are intricately intertwined.
I don't know why these are getting severe. Maybe it's because of too fast a change in civilization. Or maybe it's just a global trend.
But what's certain is that it makes me feel bad about this problem is gettng worse, preventing people from looking at a positive outlook.
"wages remain the same and the income gap is getting worse"
But borrowing and consumption are on the rise. A BA in Art History is a poor choice for $160K
this is just dismissive of the actual issues and pointing at something that isnt even nearly the main causes. Some of us arent going to ignore reality, you could raise a family and pay some for education with a Stock clerk job at a grocery store or manufacturing in the 1970-80s thats not even possible now and education costs have sky rocketed to insane amounts. Its clear where the issue is @@GK-op4oc
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Again, a BA in Art History was always something that was available as an option. The problem is that the cost of education has scaled so much faster than inflation.
So housing and education are staggeringly more expensive with each consecutive generation.
@@GK-op4oca STEM degree gets you 1/5 where it used to, history majors are not the problem.
This is correct, we need to have some kind of global recession that would reset all the prices to 1. hahaha
The causes of low birth rates in Korea are very diverse and complex, so it's very challenging to find any solutions. As someone who was born and raised in Korea, I believe that cultural issues are just as significant as economic problems (such as high housing prices and the high cost of living). Korean society is very accustomed to comparisons and competition, and the spread of the internet in modern society has made this even worse. People often compare themselves to others in terms of appearance, wealth, education, and more, sometimes idolizing those they perceive as 'superior' or ridiculing those they consider 'inferior'. Nowadays, many 'mediocre' individuals even think it's better not to have children at all if their child can't be the best. In addition, the rate of childless young adults engaging in romantic relationships has been declining significantly. Many young people are now saying that they would rather stay single if they cannot find a partner who meets their (sometimes unrealistically high) standards.
Dude, your country is massively overpopulated. It doesn't matter how people change their behavior, overpopulation in safe environments makes people stop wanting to have babies. The particular ways and particular things people focus on are completely interchangeable
Basically, your choice is - either your country returns to sane levels of population density, or you have to make people switch into clueless survival mode while living in the moment where their hormones will tell them to procreate like rabbits.
@burnjapanandrisingsunflagNo, that's a lie spreaded by korean feminists to victimize themselves.
@burnjapanandrisingsunflagSeoul invested .7 billion KRW to find out such camera but they found none.
This is something that needs to be improved all over the world but particularly in Korea. Everyone needs better self-esteem and we need to focus our society more on working together than against each other.
@@NJ-wb1cz Yes, Korea is overpopulated. And the idea of creating more available space by decreasing the population may seem attractive. However, the real concern lies in the population's age structure (As mentioned in the video). In the next 50 years, nearly half of the country's population will be over 65 years old, which could seriously disrupt the current economic structure and make it extremely difficult for society to operate smoothly.
Imagine being able to have children when I can't even dream of understanding how I'm supposed to buy a house by myself considering the prices or how I'm supposed to be able to work and spend time for my kids at the same time
No see, you exist to pay rent to a landlord and a subscription to a daycare silly! Only the rich get to spend time with their children in a house they own. They do that by earning off you! Do your part! Elon’s slave emerald mine money won’t be there forever!!! He needs your subscriptions. He has many children.
Join the military
@@GeoffCostanzaBut that just involves killing kids.
@@GeoffCostanza That is bad choice in Korea
@@GeoffCostanzaMilitary is mandatory for all Korean men with far lower than minimum wage.
Self annihilation is the highest form of self determination as a species.