NEW SRAM GX Eagle Transmission | Unboxing, Installation And First Ride
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ค. 2023
- A few months ago SRAM released the latest version of their top-of-the-range Eagle AXS wireless transmission, a new generation of wireless electronic gear shifting for performance-oriented riders who want to be able to shift under load. However, with high-performance components comes a premium price tag... Until now, the all-new SRAM GX.
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What do you think of the new SRAM AXS GX groupset?
Still a fair bit more expensive than past generations but they work amazingly! Wonder what Shimano is going to do to keep up!
Love how clean this looks, hopefully bike brands spec these on complete bikes
Would love for you guys to do a side by side comparison of both of those new transmissions and really break it down with a features, and a pro's and con's list. This would be a huge help for a lot of us in the decision making when wanting to upgrade either because a trans exploded or just wanting to improve what we already have
To F'ing expensive!!!
It would be a great addition to a new bike, however it is just to expensive to justify upgrading .
Modern SRAM drivetrains are a work of art.
Glad to see Doddy back on his bike. His style is my favorite one out the team. Smooth Operator
couldn’t agree more
What was up with him? Must've missed something there....
@@user-rv4mq3xv3p nothing just not ridden on camera for a while
Knawledge ❤😂
Yeah wtf was that whole doddy missing BS? He was being a drama queen or what
Great video and great technology. Will be installing the GX version on my epic evo very soon! Thanks for taking the time to show us the install procedure. 👍
This is very helpful. I have been contemplating on getting the GX AXS group set. Thanks!
This is new groupset is sickkkk!!
The shift pod definitely took some getting used to after that I'm very pleased with mine.
I’ve got one coming. This video made me even more excited for it
Welcome back Doddy! Hyped about this, it’s awesome to see this new technology in a lower price point is awesome to see and will definitely be looking into this more
That's some awesome tech! cant believe how far biking has come.
Yea it's come so far! Here's a bike check one of the first EVER mountain Bikes (1976 KLUNKER) 👉 th-cam.com/video/KscY0cBGCwI/w-d-xo.html
@@gmbntech Sweet, thanks!
@gmbntech what is the chain slap like on this model? Is the clutch stronger than the previous generation AXS GX?
What a great video!! Thanks Doddy, cheers from Mexico!
My pleasure!
@@gmbntech I’m In the process of getting the New Cervelo ZFS-5 with that Same Sram GX ya have on that bike. My current bike is a 2012 Niner Rip 9.
Looks pretty sweet, after I wear mine out, I might go for it.
I recently pulled the trigger and bought the Axs XX T Tyoe. Fitted it to my trail bike and it’s flipping awesome. Doddle to fit and under load gear changes are a game changer. This GX version is the same thing just a fair bit cheaper. Prefer the battery placement too, something them didn’t do on the top tier versions. Awesome kit, SRAM are knocking it our the park at the mo. Paired it up with the new Ultimate stealth brakes also. Tidies up the cockpit and cables hardly noticeable now. Such a clean look with the AxS dropper. 👌👍
Hi do you have new Axs system or the first generation?
@@slavbielesz184 it’s the brand new transmission XX T type full drivetrain which removes the UDH. Not cheap but awesome. The new GX T Type offers very similar functionality for a fair amount cheaper. However still not cheap but brilliant 👌
Thanks for your reply.
I like that it's all black without the polished bits of the higher-end versions.
Great video! (Was bout to buy XO t-type 😂) Thank you.
Can’t wait for the Sram SX Axs to drop!
Thanks for posting great content
great to hear that, thanks for the great feedback! 👍
Great Drive Train Sir Doddy, Thank you for the update
Very welcome
New tech. Let’s gooooooooo!
Awesomeness. Only just bought Axs GX though.
Hey, do you have any info on whether you can change just the derailleur (for the old gx axs) and use existing chain and sprockets? Are the rollers on the new one any different then on the old one? Thanks
Gotta love it when you can pretty much throw parts at a bike and they just work.
EXCELLENT!
as good as it looks, aint no way *everyone* is getting that. I reckon most people will still be running wired mechs for decades to come
The Chinese are hot on their heels
Is the whole groupset available now? All I see available atm is an upgrade kit.
Hmm. Very nice. I think this groupset would be good on a ebike too. One thing I'm always mindfully of on a ebike is under tension gear changes, they can really damage the chain etc. This system might help reduce that
SRAM's revolutionized drivetrain system is really disrupting the MTB market. I'm starting to see some of us with bikes that does not have the UDH as part of history. Guess I have to start collecting soda cans again to get myself a new bike.
Welcome back Doddy, great video!
I own a 2020 Enduro bike with full X01 AXS and I'm quite unpleased it's not compatible with non UDH bike i own, which is a pity. We all need to blame manufacturers for fucking mess with hanger design. I'm happy SRAM rolled UDH and I hope no bike comes w/o udh in the future. Oh well Sram T-Type is not for me for next 2-3 years :/
#askgmbntech Doddy, I might be wrong but I noticed you extended the chainstay protector on your Spectral 125? I am thinking of buying the Spectral 125 CF8 and read a lot of comments online mentioning that the factory chainstay protector is kinda short. As a result the chain is chipping off the paint close to the chainring. I think i actually noticed it happening on Anna’s bike. Is that the case? If yes, what do you recommend as a solution? Thanks, Trian.
Thanks for this video guys! I believe you spoke quickly about backwards compatability, but I wanted to just check. Will the SRAM GX T-Type 'Transmission' run with an XX1 or XO1 AXS cassette (previous version cassette)? OR does it need to be a 'Transmission' cassette (XO or XX)?
How do you know if your frame is compatible for this new hanger
I'd like to know if there is a T-type chain ring that will fit the Quarc DUB zero power meter (which is already the 8-bolt pattern). I'd consider upgrading if I could keep the XX1 carbon cranks and power meter; certainly seems you could just mount the new T-type ring on the XX1 8-bolt crank, but the power meter is the issue.
Wow they didn't change the bottom bracket stand, thx Sram.
@gmbntech At 12:19 you talk about the T Type chain could be retrofitted with the eagle system, if I do install transmission derailleur and chain what could be the problem on using my eagle cassette and chainring if the new chain can be used with both systems?
Does the DR slap around like the GX AXS? Or does the T-Type hangar sort this? I'm going on the complaints people had on chain slap, or rather the DR swinging around as there is no cable housing to keep it pushed up against the B stop.
why did you change the bottom bracket cup?? cheers
Expected compatibility with the Classified hub?
what's the options for the front chainring for the Ep8?
Can I use T chain on FIRST SRAM Gx Axs Group set? Canyon spectral on c
CF9.
#askgmbntech I am wondering: can you actually use Magic Wheel lower pulley in the old, standard GX AXS?
Will they make the hangerless sram for cable operated derailleur for even cheaper price??
Is this casette narrow-wide like the XX, XXSL and XO? Dosnt look like it.
When the setup guide says to shorten your chain to 116 and then you add the quick connect does that bring you to 117? or do you shorten to 115 and add the the quick connect to end up at 116?
What is the difference between new GX and XX Eagle (behind weight and materials)?
Can i get the upgrade kit alone that would work with my current setup? Levo sl 2021
Have I noticed that the BB spacer was installed the wrong side out? 🙈
Do you need a special frame? Can't it be installed on old-style frames?
Hi, I am about to make change wire to wireless and buy old version AXS GX is It worth to buy it or go straight for the T Type?
Agreed, I think everyone wanted to know what GX would cost and when it would release 😁
I personally want to know if I can still use my Canfield cranks with an aftermarket T-Type 3-bolt DM chainring and still use this drivetrain. (Cmon Wolftooth!)
I've got a feeling you won't run into any trouble using a normal 12 speed sram ring with this, but who knows.
Your wish came true. Wolf tooth just released some chainrings recently for transmission that will work with your old cranks.
@@radian2323 Heeeeell yea!
Is it just me or is he using the axs pod ultimate controller when the gx comes with regular axs pod?
Sounds good..
But why the battery placement on higher level versions is old style? I think I'd prefer this one over the others, it just looks more thought out.
I think the SRAM T-type AXS Transmission is perfect for a full power MTB; but my 17 yr old MTB with Shimano Deore XT 3X10 has always shifted reliably under extreme duress going up a steep bluff in the woods! I think that is why Shimano is not feeling any pressure to change. XT is already fantastic!!!
Doddy, did you leave the shifting 'backwards'? I am glad to see someone else feels that the upper button to shift up the cogs makes more sense! Well, when the revised paddle for the prior version came out, the new paddle was more consistent with the mechanical shifter when set up backwards so now I have all my bikes set up that way including the ones with the t-type.
When I get mine I'm going to try Rhys Verner's set up, bottom left pod to shift down, bottom right pod to shift up just like a car paddle shift. Either top button for dropper
look at that windswept hair, must ride fast this lad
i have a 2022 altitude carbon and i had to go with XO because that new battery placement for GX doesnt fit my frame
I think you installed the right side BB spacer wrong way around? 😅
did he make a hole in his t-shirt for the gopro?
Could you run just the derailleur with the old eagle cassette chain and front cog? i.e. is the spacing the same? I appreciate it might not shift as clean…
no, but the front chainring should be fine, as the new deraleur has very precisely set setup cogs that allow it to calibrate without limiting screws
Looks great, of be tempted to keep my current AXS shifter, i know Hope are going to make a chainring as well so can keep my cranks just need chain, mech and cassette.
That's what I'm waiting for as well. I already have truvativ descendant carbon cranks. I'm sure the new GX cranks are fine but I can't see replacing my carbon for those.
My friends! The washer that fits the crank was placed the other way around! It should fit the botton bracket!
@gmbntech hey Doddy I saw you changed the BB does that mean the XX1 setup you had before used a different BB that isn’t compatible?
no, the sram dub bb is compatable, he just replaced it so it would look good for the video
I was about to convert to xo1 since I'm in a forced downtime period, I might wait a bit ... Just for the battery position it might be worth it...
Do you think i can install on a recumbent tricycle???
Can I use my Kmc e turbo chain and shimano cassette??
With my Canyon Lux Trail 2024 it says on the SRAM AXS Website: "This bike requires rear derailler setup in SAG postition"
What does that mean? Rear shock 25% or 100% compressed? And how to do it? Just compress the bike with a tension belt between wheels and saddle while doing the setup?
At 12:54, why does the cassette is not t type?
Great video doddy.
Would it be possible to fit to nukeproof reactor 2022
as long as it fits a universal deraieur hanger, which that bike does, it will be able to directly mount to the frame
over the last couple of years I've built all the bikes I wanted. None have UDH so all this makes me a little salty. Luck of the draw I guess.
always evolving, when you buy it its allready outdated :D can be rough for sure
Let's hope the udh will last as long as the post mount standard
Is the clutch as bad as the axs?
Doddy, how’s the clutch? The prev GX AXS clutch was weaker and caused a lot of chain slap and noise. Is the new GX AXS, enduro race ready? #askgmbntech
It was a weak clutch for sure, but the main problem was the whole DR slopping around as there is no cable housing to keep it tensioned. This new T-Type DR doesn't move, and they have increased the tension on the clutch. Downside is they say it does wear the battery down quicker. But apparently no more chain slap.
What if you were to snap the chain out on the trail and shorten the chain a link or two how would this effect the shifting as there isn't no adjustments?
it would be fine, its a normal deraleur just with direct frame mounting and axs
Lower price point, please @SRAM (if it's really "for the people") Good job Doddy! 👍💯😎
What's all the fuss about shifting under load? Shimano xt and xtr do that with absolutely no issues....
Does the old shifter work with the new gx ? And what are the weight comparisons old to new and gx to x0 and xx t type?
I think it does, id be tempted to keep my current AXS shifter.
yes, it does work.
What the heck is the setup tooth cog on the cassette? He sort of mentions it in passing and doesn't elaborate.
When are they going to do the NX groupset?
On another thread I jokingly asked for an SX version.
Wow... $270? My most recent cassette was about $50. That's an XT 10-speed, but it still seems like the prices are getting a bit absurd.
Agreed!
10 speed but how do you climb up a hill?
That's typical SRAM. The regular GX eagle cassette is $225. A Shimano XT 12 speed cassette is $150 and a SLX 12 speed cassette is $100.
@@alabaster4263easily, just drop the chainring a couple of teeth. I have no use for big gears
@@alabaster4263good ol MUSCLE
#askGMBNTECH Have you shifted it at times and found that the only reason you know it shifted is because it got easier or harder to pedal? I've actual had it do that with the XX on a Ebike in the right condition it will shift that smooth image if they could get it to do that all the time
Does anyone know why he replaced the bottom bracket? Was the old one not compatible or did he just do it because why not, new groupset new BB?
I wonder if the old AXS shifter will pair to the new T-Type derailer?
yes, it can
I have some extremely high end new bikes and they do not have UDH the Specialed Epic being the only one. My Enduro and BMC two stroke are both standard. Honestly I’ve not ridden this yet but is this really a game changer? Mechanical XTR takes a ton of abuse and shifts instantly and my old Axs shifts great
How long until someone builds a way for non-udh bikes to use thiiis?!?!??
How do you think, what difference are between old style x-sync sram FRONT chain rings and new T-type? Why should they be not cross-compatible? In old X-sync there also was labels everythere "only x-sync, only sram" - i managed to race XC races for two years with cheap AliExpress front chainrings with my Sram Eagle GX AXS, ~3000km. There were no single problem with it. I think in this case there are also no need to change an existing front chainrings... What do you think?
as long as it is a single chainring at the front it should be fine, but maybe ask a bikes shop
Can this group set be used on the Nukeproof reactor 290 comp?
only if it can support UDH otherwise no
Oh god... I wonder if one of these would mate to a cyclone kit or a cyc x1? That would be immense.
How would this work on an eMTB such as the Specialized LEVO?
works awesome!
As a test, try the derailleur only on a bike with nx all round for example. Be interesting if it worked OK or not.
I'm curious as well, as I have the NX groupset and wanted to just buy the RD and the Controller...I'll ask LBS as well before purchasing.
@@dongkapuyawn5107 Well, they're already stated that this is designed only for the new cassette series they created, while the NX is still based on the previous Eagle design. I'm sure it will still function, but your experience will be absolutely nothing like what you see in reviews.
That being said, the NX cassette is kind of garbage so it'd make more sense to sell it if it's relatively new or wear it out and then upgrade.
Gears are not spaced the same as older eagle 12 speed. They are much closer together.
Nice video...as usual. Great to see you so excited about the GX Eagle AXS drivetrain...LOL. And please do tell me more about the new GX flat-top chain being compatible with the old GX drivetrain...
All is great but the price.
Just got a new new stumpy with X01 axs. Would it be a down grade to go GX transmission?
please go away with your stupidity...
I can't candle it anymore!
Hi Doddy, is this a good system for e-bikes then?
Not Doddy, but it will be absolutely perfect for ebikes. I believe they are rated for up to 2000w of power underload shifting, so your average ebike up to 600w plus whatever your legs are cranking will not overload it
I could listen to Doddy talk about bikes for hours.
Doesn't work with older bikes I guess (no UDH). Or do they make a version for old derailleurhangers?
The old AXS works for that
no of this but old axs should work and is still very good
The new trigger is compatible with the old axs system?
no,I dont hink so
#askgmbntech
Im really thinking about getting this GX Transmission, but I dont want to change my bottom bracket,....
So I wana know if i can keep the old DUB style bottom bracket with the new crankset?
Thanks in advance.
Florian
It uses the same dub bottom bracket. But you need to install a 7.5mm spacer on the drive side and a 3mm spacer on the non drive side, both external. This is due to the wider chain line. It should come with these but if not they can be purchased.
Inspect the dub bracket before installing the new wider crankset to ensure all the bearings are running fine. If so apply grease and you are good to go. 👍
Will mechanical GX still be available or will it be replaced by this?
It will still be available
Doddy it's so great to get your ride review of this great SRAM set up! I have a 55mm chain line but not UDH.....By frame is totally made from Carbon including the rear Triangle....do you guys know any Carbon frame shops who could modify my Rear Triable to accept UDH? Thanks Magoo. BTW....I use the same Pod to shift my SRAM XX1 Mech set up....I love it!
I wouldn’t recommend playing with the carbon to make it fit
@@thegrommechanic6265 Experienced Carbon Fabricators could do this easy....they just have to modify the Axle mount to make it work with a UDH fit-up....It's not rocket science!
@@Magoo71 I don't get it, even then the frame wouldn't match the profile of the hanger
@@thegrommechanic6265 You have NO Clue!
@@thegrommechanic6265 THERE IS NO HANGER Genius! It mounts to the same place the Axle does!
Man, this is an unreasonably hard to find product from retailers because confusingly they all still list the old one if you just search for "gx eagle axs" for example. Also many retailers don't seem to show the bash guards on the chainring but I guess there's no variants here and they've just not installed them for the shots?
That's because you need to be searching for T-type or transmission.
Changing under full load is sweet but the cassette and chain bills really suck
#askgmbntech When I was buying my bike I think the issue with SRAM cassettes, compared to Shimano, was that the steps between gears were too big. I have Deore XT 10-51T on my bike (1x12) and I find the spacing between gears quite nice. It allows me to smoothly shift to lower gears when climbing without the lower gear being too low. I feel that having a bigger difference between gears would make it less smooth. Current gear would be too high but shifting to lower would be too low. Is this an issue on current SRAM cassettes?
That was never an issue, even on the old setup of SRAM
New spacing is not that different if you check Shimano is: 11-13-15-18-21-24-28-33-39-45-51 and the new T-Type Cassette is: 10-12-14-16-18-21-24-28-32-38-44-52.
Spacing in the middle is around nearly the same but you got an easyer gear and a harder gear🤷♂️