Is SM About To Make His Biggest Mistake Ever - The Problem with Aespa
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We NEED to talk about Aespa! Do you think this unique concept will work? What will happen to Red Velvet? And I look rough because I'm doing no shave November lol
I am really looking forward to easpa. I just don't want to see red velvet go under. They are one of my ult ggs
I love your content❤❤❤
So i didnt think it would be a good idea to have 4 real members and then 4 vertual members in ae spa at first like if the wifi goes out the AI members would be gone but now i think they can be sucsessful
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While I do have a worry that people may manipulate the AR characters, I 'm going to see the positives. I got into kpop bacause a non-kpop fan friend send me the video to the LoL live stage asking me to check out the AR characters - that lead me to (G)I-DLE and thus the love affair with kpop began. I wonder if Aespa will bring new fans to kpop due to curiosity as we all know they will get so much buzz internationally?
“SM’s biggest mistake” would not be aespa. It would be disbanding Red Velvet anytime in the near future.
Agreed. I don’t think I will ever love any SM girl group as much as I love Red Velvet.
I agree with you Joongie 🥺
Disbanding them or taking any members out. SM already knows how affected their company gets when they pull stuff like that.
SM NEVER DISBANDS GROUPS
sm never disbands their group tho
“The avatar will be able to do things that a celebrity cannot do.” That just really creeps me out. Like they need to put limits on what they allow the avatar versions to do...
Like
Visiting Fans Home
That Just Creepy
I will not suprise if a decade later we will see an idol as an object to full fill your (lust) imagination.
@@ironwiredglasses Ya, its already happen to some hard stan. I just hope SM will not treat them like an object to legally do anything fan wanna do, bc "the avatar will be able to do things that a celebrity cannot do." sounds like they want to exploitation their avatar to get even more money, i kinda wierd to say that bc we all know that the avatar isnt a human being, but if SM really do that i think people will see them as greed entertaiment soon. I wish all the best for aespa debut.
im pretty sure he meant hang out and be friends but people toom it the wrong way
prolly doing crazy stunts idk
Someone said that aespa ai avatars look like a white characters in a japanese online game with 21+ age restriction, and i can't stop laughing how accurate it is
Anna Stetskaya "YoU cAnT laSt FiVe MinUteS"
@@HelloKitty-ut5jd PLEASEEE
They made them WHITTEEEE
Hmm that 21+ thing is a really good point. I can't imagine where that'll go. Especially if people recall that time a (normal) bts video landed on that adult website (cuz fans put it there).
@@HelloKitty-ut5jd LMAO I'M DYING
Y'all I just want a Girls' Generation comeback
Same
sæm
Same!! 😭😭😭
seriously tho
Ur a simple man, I like that 🤩
The virtual performers is cool but it can also back fire
True it’s a cool idea but it’s stealing chances of very talented trainees
But who knows just my opinion
@@angelie_2345 yeah i agree
For sure! But someone would have tried it if SM didn't
@@InternetsNathan yeah
I hate the idea of “idealized” idols. The bodies aren’t realistic, and it will make people compare the idols and the robots. Gross. No hate to the girls tho
fr and why would you idolized an avatar dancing 😭
I can't still give my impression about this because we can't still see it. I can't talk about hating the concept because I might eat my words after release.
also, the concept may change the perspective of others but anyways the concept is really unique! let's just hope that it will be successful and will have good influence to the fans.
@@rise3371 that's wise! and I might end up changing my mind as well, because i love vocaloid a lot and that's similar. my problem is they are supposed to be the same person, it's not like "here's the cgi members and the real members". They have a cgi, or perfect, version of themselves. I would hate that if it was me. but definitely fair to wait until after debut!
“Idealized idols” umm where do you think the term idol comes from lol? Idols are perfected human beings, Kpop idols are literally required to starve themselves in order to get a desirable body and also let’s not forget that most idols do surgery. Like what’s happening with the A.I isn’t anything new idk why you guys aren’t realising that.
this could be blackmirror episode that the AI got abused by fans, mindblown
Netflix: Write it down, write it down 😂
fr
sm is using ai aespa to track down muslims on china to put them in concentration camps
@@louis-lk1yp wtf
@@louis-lk1yp well. At this point you TRULY never know. We'll see here soon enough. ☥777
Everytime sm debuts a new group everyone go like oh this will be sm first failure and after a year or two they become like the biggest group out there
It happens with Suju, Exo, NCT, RV and now Aespa
@@teacher-Eri yeah.
correct
yuh
and now aespa is bigger than the whole 4th generation lol
"SM's biggest mistake" I've heard that so many times ( - _ -)
Almost everytime they debut new group, actually.
Yeah
Oh isn’t Nct Sm’s biggest mistake? Come on I’m not saying that the members of nct isn’t talent or whatsoever, but this idea or line up fuck up so hard. You can’t deny it how some of the members doesn’t showcase their talent because of how many they’re. They can’t even chart high considering how popular kpop is today and they also came from big3 Company. Even superm fuck up they even promote it as hard as they can but I didn’t do well on western market.
It’s used to describe literally every debuting group. But I shall forever be a sm stan I love sooman too much 😂😂
yeah but people are here criticizing the fact that there would literally be AI members and the problems with it...
Fun fact: Before super Junior had their debut everyone said this group size is SMs biggest mistake. Look where we are now.
Yup, people say it all the time.
i think it's the tradition off sm
even i hate lee soo man but this dude is a genius he always make the 1st step in kpop
that's way sm is successful
tvxq and HOT have a ground breaking never being made before concept............WARRIOR CONCEPT......while exo have that anime concept... when they first debut
they always say that and the opposite happens 🤷♀️
It happened for most of SM artists
the Kpop Industry is always a "gamble" but SM has the money to do that whether Aespa succeeds or not but knowing SM Entertainment their going to be a success
Yeah, I feel people have blown this way outta proportion lol and judging already. Like that saying goes "Don't judge a book by its cover"
Actually i dont think they will keep up with itzy, in the "new" groups.
Wish they put that money into making the AI's look better 😭. I would be a hard stan if it wasn't for the SIMs ai looks.
sm groups are always hated on before they debut then called flops when they actually debut, its kind of a tradition, but it always works out well in the end
SM's biggest mistake just became the Fastest Group to reached 100 M views in Kpop History.
@@pc6985 yes it is. the fastest debut group
they said Exo, red velvet and Nct are sms biggest mistake yet look where they are now 😩
EXO- NATION PICK
RED VELVET- NATION PRIDE
NCT- PHYSICAL MONSTERS
ah, the tradition by general public to sm group.. slap them hard at first, compliment them later
Don't forget that snsd even got black ocean and now they are the living legend.
@@lalrinfelitlau6727 black ocean at dream concert was what made me their fans. the general public and antis don't give a damn about them. after that incident they are get a long hiatus for more than 8 months. the pressure was great because wonder girls rising to the top with tell me and nobody.. and taeyeon carrying them singlehandly musically wise with succesful 2 ost project (if and can u hear me). and then, 'gee' at 2009 made a miracle. that was legendary days in kpop history for the only group labeled as nation girlgroup of south korea
@@lalrinfelitlau6727 Girls' Generation was also called a mistake because they were the first girl groups in kpop with so many members.
If SM literally ignore Red Velvet, I'm gonna be sad and disappointed, but not really surprised :/
Do you know SM already had comeback plan and official US debut plan for Red Velvet, no SM had so many plan for Red Velvet. SM just need to let the girls out of media and public for the moment, and in the mean time SM will sue whoever make false rumour about them. Remember SM alrady posted warnings in their page, and they join venture with not 1 but 10 law firms. SM dont come to play this time becaue after Irene situation they realized how there's a group of motion especially media that try to bring them down. Now after they released the statement, only the original articles still available, many those othere false rumour had been taken down especially from site like Allkpop and Koreaboo. And SM also ask help from fans if we see malicious comment just sent it to their email and they will take it from them. Yeah, entire Kpop industry try to bring SM down not only haters.
@@dontlookmeup8437 im a revluv and i know about this stuff (btw idk why you commented something random but fine), but we can't deny that sm sometimes just ignored lots of things that happened with rv, so if they ignore them bc of aespa debut im not gonna be surprised, just gutted af and quite pissed of. c'mon we all know that sm loves to give rv makeshift things, even if they're a big group, and it's obvious that a new girl group, specially with this new concept, will demand time and money, something that they have but don't want to lose, so as a revluv im concerned, sm isn't a trustworthy company, none of them are. they can have plans, but can they execute it well? i mean in a way that respect and show how wonder rv members are. and of course they're worried about the irene situation, controversy = losing 💰, and this what they don't want at all. of course they want to earn money with the girls, but making a comparison of how the girls are treated (including songs, dances, visuals, they privacy and mental/fisical health) and how money they make, i think that they need more respect, don't you think? (even if they couldn't make money they would deserve respect as human beings but you know what i mean)
sm isn't cool and liberal as many people think, they just give attention to things that make them lose money and prestigious, the rest is just thrown up in to the basement until they need it to cover-up another controversy 🤐👺💰
I seriously think about that it will take 1 2 or 3 yrs before rv make a comeback, they will become the 2nd fx probably. I hate to say that bec i love rv and irene but knowing sm theyre so concious about public conception. And knowing irene shes an introvert and shes juat starting to go out of her shell but with the recent scandal i think she will become more introvert we may not see the irene who used to laugh and joke andngo to other shows
its gonna happen eventually
just one of the perks of getting older
my heart will literally break if SM continues the trend of forgetting their girl groups. RV is my ult group and I love them to pieces. Unfortunately, SM treats their girl groups rather poorly in comparison to their boy groups. Shinee, EXO, and Suju still receive promotions and solo work while SNSD hasn't been seen in years (Oh! GG was a joke bc SM does nothing with them) and Fx is no more. I hope RV continues to stay in the limelight because they are so talented and SM doesn't deserve them I swear.
"SM's biggest mistake" people says this Everytime SM debutes a new group but at the end every SM groups are successful
I am not really into these things but I will tell u what I understood. NCT is popular not because of their concept of having n number of members but because they have good music. I am an army, but casual listeners like me listen to them bcz of their songs. Many don't care about the concept and adding more number of people will make their relationships awkward.( My personal opinion).
And the thing with Aespa, I love the æ version of giselle and winter but the æ- karina was a bit creeeeeeeeeepy. They will only get the hype in the beginning because of these new ideas or concept but if they have good music, they will become big.
yeah they will debut aespa and say fuck red velvet
Thats what am looking for
@@armyengene888 @army atiny its funny because nct in korea is popular for their unlimited members and their visuals. Koreans said fuck their music. Because since the begining nct music is going wayyyy to far from what they expect. Thats why they only rely on fandom on chart. If SM give them a basic generic pop music with less-quality, i think they Will be wayyyy bigger and more popular. Nct in korea is wellknown with that unlimited members and as handsome Idols. Thats why there is this term called Nam-CT (namja+nct) which means if some koreans find a really good looking boy on street, they will call that boy as Nam-CT. Means he can blend in nct for his face. Sadly their music are not that huge beside boss, kick it, and make a wish. But nct dream's music is actually quite popular since their early days music was so gp-friendly
This is true, they will always expect SM to fail with their concepts and groups. But then later on, people soon realizes it's a successful idea. Lol
Turns out SMs every "mistake " makes the history
Currently, NCT's Chenle actually has the record shortest training time of about 2 months
Olivia from loona was a trainee for ONE day
Stan loona
@@noamyizhari7862 talking about SM Ent, not BBC 💀
That’s what I came here to say. Also everyone is pretty sure Shotoro also only trained for a few months
@@elee2387 yeah I think his training time was about three or four months
And Girls' Generation's Sunny she only trained in 8/9 months, isn't Sunny who supposed to be hv "the shortest time" of SM's female trainees?
They should treat their idols properly first before debuting AI idols
one of the most sensible comment which i was looking for...
This literally doesn’t even make any sense. If they treat their idols badly shouldn’t it be a good thing if they don’t debut actual idols? At least they won’t be able to mistreat them
@@doudoulapin468 its sm theyll find a way
i'm just afraid that with SM starting this virtual kpop idol concept, alot of other groups would come up with it too and given the fact that virtual reality influencers are slowly gaining tons of popularity, this concept in kpop would sky-rocket and i guess, in a way, our 'human' idols would just slowly fade since, this new a.i. idol thing is probably where things would be at.
no more "kpop idols are humans too!" "they have feelings! they're not robots!" type of talk anymore. the a.i. idols can't even get injuries and mental health problems. they can be in several places at once. slowly just creeping me out the more i think about it...
Exactly your second point is literally why this concept is so concerning.
AIs never grow tired. They never get sick, never get any illness. They are literal robots under their programmers' controls. If we are to actually believe all companies prioritises capitalism, this concept is it lol.
If it goes out of hand, it strips off idols' careers. It's concerning how everyone says "we should let them debut first and see how".
Exactly, it's creepy
i suddenly remembered "rachel, jack and ashley, too" from black mirror
@@user-rv5wi3jc7k Ahh... Just that humans can get attached to fictonary characters if it is presented human enough. An example would be League of Legends newest character, Seraphine. Her KDA version had her own twitter, writing about how shes nervous about performing with KDA and so on and there are a lot of reactions that took it apparently seriously.
I think why it would be unprobabel for virtual Idols to replace are performances. While there are options to make them visible even on a real stage, it just doesnt look as good (in my opinion).
Kinda agree but imo i dont really think that would happen. I mean some groups would definitely do that but i dont think that many companies would dare to do it. These thing aint cheap you know i dont think most of them would dare to take the risk
This is going to kill authenticity of human performers.will give huge pressure to idols itself.
@@kfjarin it’s not just about performances?? they have to do interviews, practices, photoshoots, fan meetings, and so much more. these ai avatars are just asking for people to compare them to the girls with the impossible body standards and the fact they’ll always be perfect forever, this will obviously take a toll especially when sm is barely adding any limits to what people can do when it comes to ai avatars..
@@kfjarin and KDA and hatsune miku are not at all the same to aespa. KDA members have their own separate work that don’t include ai and hatsune miku is a sole vocaloid who doesn’t have any human members :P
@@kfjarin what i’m trying to say is that ur mainly just focusing on performances, which is what the ai avatars are that much good for anyways, the idols are going to be tired and overworked regardless, the human idols have a lot more to do and even groups with just human idols are all busy and packed, it’s not that different for this group
indeed, the ai idol looks so pefect it will put pressure to the idol.
@@vivian9121 You are in everything correct
Imagine having fanwars with fans of aespa: "at least I don't stan a robot"
(Pls don't take this srsly, it's a joke)
I didn’t get the joke tho
@@chaegucci yeah I'm bad at jokes.. When my friends joke with each other, they laugh then I get confident so I try to tell my own joke and.. I was the only one laughing HAHAHAHGAA
@@jaxx2591 I could somehow relate to you hahaha
"at least I can talk to them"
oh this is going to be amazing
@@alixexpres oohhh niceee... i hate fanwars but tbh, sometimes, it's so fascinating to see fans roast each other HASGHAHAHA
congrats to the girls for escaping the sm rookie dungeon but the ai versions of themselves have longer limbs, thin, pale skin.. not only will it lead to oversexualisation but it conforms to korean beauty standards so the pressure for the girls to look beautiful like them is a lot
As if it didn't happen alr. Nothing new. If its too realistic haters call it creepy and so on. But if it look anime-ic and artsy haters called it "oversexualisation" the point is, no matter how they design the characters, ppl will always find the negative thing bcs thats what yall want to see. bro its just a cartoon characters its not that deep yall are just trying to find the dumbest shit to hate didnt ya.
You make it as if like if they debut, then thats that. The final product, no room for improvement. I suggest you give them chance instead of worrying over nothing. Dont blow things out of proportion, sm will polish the concept more in the future im sure
ikr, THEY LOOK MORE WESTERNIZED.
@@ppfle not once did i suggest there was no room for improvement and not once was i blatantly hating on them. i just hate that sm didn't put any thought into the consequences of this. and if no one was gonna be happy with the ais either way then sm shouldn't have added them in the first place 💀
THIS!
Actually new NCT member Shotaro even had a shorter amount of training at SM with 3 months. Also idk about the cover up since it was already planned before the controversy happened just like how they teased it in SuperM MV a couple months ago, and we knew they’ve been planning for it.
No, shortest amount for girls at SM, Aeri or Giselle has the shortest, but no one can compare to Olivia Hye (loona) with one day of training.
@@ethanol4367 In the video it said shortest time for an SM idol it didn’t specify gender, and SM usually takes time training their idols that’s what makes it different.
@@shhhh5895 it is said that aespa’s mv shooting and preparations took place mid of this year and giselle was announced as a trainee in the beginning of 2020 which means she could’ve possibly only had a few months of training instead, that includes her in the list of trainees with the shortest time period.
@jaehyun lived in america for 4 years ok 4 years he trained for 2 months to be exact
also correction: Super Junior’s Ryeowook trained for 2 months so that makes him the trainee with the shortest time period to debut
This "Biggest Mistake" is now breaking records and currently conquering kpop 🤧
The virtual characters looked too fake though, and everyone just gonna be delusional and start wanting to marry the characters gosh..
No im not gonna do that
I was really excited at *first*, because I thought maybe the virtual characters were their alter egos..... but like they are acting like they’re their own people and supposed to be friends with the members.
I thought it was like k/da or something TT what sm is doing now is beyond creepy
that..... that's the point.... to be fake.... what the hell is with all you delusional people that ask for A.I.s that are meant to be a FANTASY to be as realistic as possible? WTF? What's the point then? We have the idols for that.... Why bother make an exact copy of the human idol? THAT would have been disturbing.....
@@elixieliza that's the whole point of the group.... you already have an idol... why need a virtual clone of her? this is a lot more exciting and it will separate the human from the A.I. if they were acting the same do you have any idea how many people would complain that the idol isn't always acting like that and blah blah blah? This establishes that the idol is the idol while the Ai is the Ai, except they're in the same group.
The characters look nothing like the members lol
SM: "Im gonna debut new group"
People: "Its SM biggest mistake"
years after : most successful group in their gen
@@rynsiri7355 bullshit, SNSD got abandoned when Red Velvet got their promotions
did you even watch the video ??
This is why ,all, I say "all "SM artists never got the "Billion "views bcs no matter how hard their works, sm doesn't keep supporting their artist to grow very big.
that also happen in exo
Ok sorry but this will bring a lot of perverts, imagine just the amount of gross content related to the "avatars" of each idol 😫
Edit: I had my first job interview, I should add this to my resume❤️
Right and I’m pretty sure two members are minors
@@teeafy all are adults, even the youngest is an adult
@@rhythmsandblues1077 Ningning is 02 liner so she isn't, she's 18 international age so she will be adult in 2021
@@mydadknewilikebeans3977 18+ is adult ig she is 18+ after October this year....so she is an Adult.
Isn’t the age of an adult in Korea 20?
never forget that people called NCT and EXO as sm's biggest mistake because of their concepts but look at where they are now. I believe that Aespa will be successful as well.
Yh exo were called failures at the start but are now one of the most successful boy groups
This is completely different. There are genuine concerns.
@@srinblmlmlke no it’s not. I think the use of avatars were just like the teasers where you can message the avatars on some so called app called “synk” which I think sm will make. But still I respect your opinion, we all have different opinions.
@Multistan l too bad I’m in love with the concept
According to a lot of people all of SM's groups are their "biggest mistakes". People used to say the same shit about SNSD. The only place SM truely failed is when they let f(x) fall off.
What creeps me out is how certain fans will “use” these AI avatars. It will objectfy these girls more and also push the beauty standards even more. I’m afraid of what this will mean to genuine real people and and other artists. It feels like it could become quite toxic. At the same time, it could help alleviate the over working of idols. I think there are pros and cons. Personally from what I’ve understood so far I wouldn’t want it to go beyond what we have now, mainly because of the objectification factor.
It feeds into delulu behavior...
@@kfjarin lol. But this feeds into even more. Especially since the ceo wants to avatars to be fans phones and wants fans to be close to the idols avatars. People are gonna see the girls as avatars instead actually people with feelings and emotions which pretty bad
Kpop really has no freedom or diversity. There's no POC and they're all obsessed with looks and breaking into the American market. Also, I've noticed that once something makes its mark, nothing can tear it down. BTS is so popular that no kpop group win against them. No girl group can be on the same level as BlackPink either now that they've both achieved global success. Also, if you're part of the big 3 you're automatically popular. So many groups have come and gone when debut but Aespa is making headlines only because it's an SM group. Kpop in general, is controlled.
But "SM's biggest mistake" usually always ends in "SM's greatest success" ... That's why SM is solidified as the biggest #1 entertainment company in Asia for over 2 decades now. I just hope they don't forget about Red Velvet.
They will forget about rv just like they did with snsd.
I really dont want my favourite kpop girl group to disband
@@blackpinkxblink303 SM never forgets about SNSD wtf are you talking about. They had continued promotions and concerts after rv debuted(at the same time Jessica left), they just voluntarily left the group
@@blackpinkxblink303 and besides, they've been performing for 10 YEARS, and training for their whole life. I know Boa is around SM for more than that but they're different people
finally someone who speaks my language. as people would hate to agree. sm does know what they are doing. they been in the business for decades and were the first kpop company. they can see the big picture years ahead while little kpop fans can't even forsee the next day. And sm would never forget about rv. they just had bad luck this year with wendy accident and irene's controversy. The ceo even said RV will return soon. They just need to lay low for a while till things settle down.
6 months later, aespa is now considered as Monster Rookies, and has the best girl group concept and story. Well, it wouldn't hurt you all to wait and see what would a group offer before judging them, right?
ngl...This just seems like a boomer level idea to try to relate to young folks.
Lmao boomer level idea 😂
Yeah, when I first saw the idea it immediately made me think they were trying to piggyback of the K/DA idea, which is considered the hip new thing lol)
I thought that at first too, but their concept is actually very interesting. It’s really cool
@@ngentertainment4582 Glad their concept turned out to be deeper than K/DA
After 7 months and SM Congress later you still think this a boomer level idea to relate to young folks???
Moral: Don't be too quick to judge
😂😂😂
Turns out aespa is SM biggest success debut.
Moral things to learn: dont judge too quick before even know it deeper
LOUDER KING MARK!
@kim jennie nct infinite number also their 'biggest mistake' right... seeing how NCT now. SM never settle for comfort, comfort for newbies, SM already planned for their artist dbeut in 2030 that's how advance they are. Fun fact aespa concept was develop since 2013, NCT concept almost 20 years in the making.
@kim jennie Its actually true. SM producers talked about how LSM likes to plan groups way ahead. That's why SM Artists has diverse sound and concepts because it takes more than half a decade to plan everything for a Group.
@kim jennie I also didn't liked your tone. But wth wdc :)
@kim jennie It's actually amazing (FOR ME OF COURSE). I even liked NCT and Red Velvet's concept which is very unique. At first I thought NCT wouldn't go further because of their concept but they are now huge (still shookt tbh). So Aespa's conceot will have an advantage once SM launch their App that is similar to Aespa's concept. We are now advancing through technology. So Aespa's concept will be great in the long-run.
The characters don’t even look Asian they all look like white girls, which white and Asian girls are beautiful but if the group members are going to be Asian showing the avatars look like them. It’s just putting more Eurocentric beauty standards on Asia more than already are. If you showed me those Avatar members I would think the group was of white girls.
Agreed!
True
I’m glad I’m not the only one that was thinking that
Kpop makes idols look white anyway with the wannabe eurocentric features like small nose and pale white skin etc etc that's the kpop beauty standard
Korea has loved pale skin for a long time, long before white people even showed up. They also favour rounded foreheads, small faces and tall noses with sharp angles. Not very eurocentric to me, but the blatant colourism is there.
1) SM had aespa plans for a long time and it shows, and they mentioned numerous times that they are planing aespa for 4Q and they registered and trademarked them by September (before the irene scandal) so no this ain't a cover up this time.
2) so many sm rookie artists were teased or promoted in other sm artists 💀
3)SM is going to take legal action toward any misuse of the ai characters (in the erotic way y'all are concerned about) to protect the human members and i hope they do
I lol'd at 3
@@dredsmiles SM actually made a statement about and i hope they keep up to what they promised to do.
Seeing sms past the third statement seems controversial
@@nupurinamdar6544 wdym?? They literally said they want to protect the young girls from any attemp of sexualizing their avatars or anything else controversial 💀 as they should.
@@kokolio4453 they haven't really done a great job at protecting their artists in the past so I doubt they will do it now
am I the only one who literally LOVES this concept? Like it’s not as bad after seeing the mv
I also love the concept, the song is also good but the avatars have more negative than positive aspects. It is interesting but it can turn out very well or worse
Same
i think a lot of ppl take issue with the fact that sm wants to make an "ai hotel" with aespa which is creepy and only encourages stalker fan behaviour
It’s just, gross I guess? Imagine training for nearly ten years just to be overshadowed by a robot version of yourself.. I really hope they cut out the whole ai concept and just let the girls really shine.
I'm excited for the virtual idols , despite it being creepy. I used to like the Hatsune Miku concerts, and this concept seems similar. Only she doesn't have a human she's based on.
that virtual reality hotel nonsense smells like trouble cooking up
LoL 😂
True though 😁
It's not true it's a whole rumour from Twitter
@@RichRichification I thought sm himself talked about that
@@fatimaazam4471 nope
@@fatimaazam4471 no he didn't
If SM neglects red velvet after their debut that would be their biggest mistake but I don’t think that’s likely. Red Velvet is like the holy trinity of 3rd gen girl groups of the big three with Blackpink and Twice and if they’re not dumb they know that neglecting them is fumbling the bag. And by the bag I literally mean money which SM loves more than their idols unfortunately...
SNSD wasn't part of the Hol Trinity, they were untoucheable as a gg for most of their careers and between 2011-2012 as a kpop group period. That didn't get in the way to promote them less and less until members started leaving; idol group career is more of a setting stone for female idols so they can persue careers as singers or actresses after.
anything can happen.. like how 2ne1 disbanded after yg focused on blackpink.. :/
@@biazacha This is a lie though. SNSD were only untouchable with album sales. They weren’t close in digitals to 2NE1 and later to SISTAR. Even in the period you highlighted. 2011-2012, SNSD trailed T-ARA in digitals with their back to back to back hits and were equal to 2NE1 with Lonely and IATB.
They were definitely apart of a Big Two along with 2NE1 and to say 2NE1 weren’t their rivals in success is delusion.
SM know the best for their artists, just sometimes, some group need to shine too
@@dianna7053 ummmm idk about that one SM does some questionable things like how they just stopped promoting f(x) and moved on not to mention they don’t seem to put much priority into the mental health of their artists either and they’re way too strict with the rules and standards they make their artists follow
I don't know why but the concept of artificial members along with irl members makes me uncomfortable
you'll get over it :)) just how your grandparents got over smartphones and face-time
Aespa is the FUTURE. Next Level #1 in All Korean Charts.
The concept is a little bit scary to be honest. Too futuristic. Reminds me of those video that soon technologies and these virtual thing will eat the world :((
ikr that's exactly what it makes me feel
as if time is running too fast or so.
im scared :((((((
Yeah, and it has that vibe of "No more humanity. The world's gonna end and all humans will be extinct with only technology taking over."
Oi?
I think that's (kinda) the concept, if we see the end of the mv, and SM making they own universe. It's interesting
This no make sense. You over reacting..
I just want the ‘avatars’ to look more realistic. They are supposed to look like the idols not a modified version... taller, skinner 🙄
Edit: guys I’m not saying I want them to entirely be EXACTLY the same, there really wouldn’t be a point if there were two of each member 😓 BUT I WILL SAY THIS: the way that SM created these avatars are too fake. Comparing the girls with the avatars, the avatars just are “better” looking in so many aspects. By better I mean the high standard of beauty we hold these idols to (and girls). I just want to avatars to at least have the same skin color and body type (height doesn’t matter cause I know everyone here would make themselves taller if they could) with the teensiest hint of the girls themselves. not thin thighs and huge butts. Because then again your personality is you. Thats all I want and I don’t think I’m asking much. We need to set a beauty standard where people don’t have to look like these avatars to look beautiful.
Omg you people are so weird first y'all complained that y'all didn't want them to look like the girls because of creepy people using them for porn now y'all want them to look like them???
@@RichRichification well I have had the same stance forever soooooo (but if people are using the real looking ones for p^rn then I think having fake looking ones would be easier- oh well)
@@RichRichification idk about the people not wanting aespa to look like their ai, but to me it beats the whole idea of having an ai version of themselves if they are a skinnier (bustier😟😳) completely more prettier version of... I dont know what but more prettier (not saying that the girls aren't pretty themselves)
@@JessicaFernandes-ro8wi the avatars are also soooo whitewashed, it's uncomfortable
They will probably push avatars to gaming market as well as a part of Aespa promotions. Every female game character looks like this, if they resemble real people 100% they wouldn't be marketable
SM's biggest mistake keep on breaking records. SM's biggest mistake is on different level. We love mistake.
The title of this video doesn't age well lmao aespa is currently SM most successful debut group and definitely will get bigger from now on. SM is the trendsetter, they never follow the flow but instead, they create the flow.
IMO aespas debut situation is MILES better than RV's. Even tho irene situation can be handled better it isnt as bad as this:
Snsd Jessica departure was a mess and snsd very much
Exo had 2 Chinese idols kris Luhan filed lawsuit against Sm for mistreatment
Plus Sulli had just taken a mysterious hiatus from f(x)
Yup yup!
@@budgettax5396 I mean we know what happen to Sulli but she might have left f(x) cause she was dealing with something or wanted to go solo like how she did
Plus Victoria China ban and sulli leaving. That makes this situation look like a baby but this is 2020 (c____ culture) u know... SM obviously cares about money but RV is still extremely valuable and stable money and music/gaon stats wise if you look at the numbers so don’t worry Reveluvs. We just have to support these 4 girls at our best and once the situation calms down more, we’ll see those lil aespavelvet interactions and more content from both. Aespa is gonna do so amazing in Japan Im predicting.
Wasn’t there kris luhan and Tao ?
my unpopular opinion: SM treats karina way different then the other members in the groups it’s like she is always in the spotlight
true.
Even tho Sm always do that they seems to have a favorite, like when Taeyong debuted with nct. But this just gives a complete different vibe...they already have like soo many toxic and weird acting fans, majority of fans are really nice tho
Tbh black mamba was probably 80% Karina
@@lilah8652 true !
the other 10% was karina with the members and the other 10% was the members finally alone
@@MegaSuperstar95 Go watch the mv
More than a year later, aespa is now the most successful 4th generation group debut ever
antis: aespa will be the biggest failure of SM
aespa: highest debut mv views and highest spotify stream debut.
They would be popular on porn sites for their ai lmao, and that's not a good thing..., What is noteworthy is that the avatar characters are based on real people, not just characters. Until now, there has been a girl group consisting of the characters from a game (K/DA). However, SM Entertainment is the only company to release both human members and their avatars modeled after the members at the same time.
and I am not really sure if theres legal protection for their ai from pornography
@@yasuo1247 that would be so mortifying for such young girls to know. Its inevitable sadly, this doesnt seem well thought out
tf are aespa anti we know next to nothing about them people stating their opinions doesn’t necessarily mean anti
@@yasuo1247 Bruh even without ai KPOP idol is already targeted by perverts. Have you heards of deepfakes? thats shit fucked up.
yeah
This didn’t age well at all seeing how aespa are the first sm group in 14 years to get their first win with their debut song. They are charting higher than any other rookies, let’s see they got roty award in Korea and China. They had the biggest debut in China alongside taeyeon they were the only 2 Sm artists to chart very high there. Their digitals are the highest among 2020 rookies and their views are increasing higher everyday. They charted on billboard global (highest for a debut) so yes they’re “Sm biggest mistake” Sm must be so sad to see their girls flopping. It’s a tradition that any Sm group that is called “biggest mistake” turns out to be their biggest artist.
I'm scared for the Girls. Because this concept has a lot going for it. It's fresh,never been done before, and innovative. But at the same time a concept where Fans can virtually interact with the Virtual versions of the idol can be alarming. SM should know about this since most of their groups have Sasaengs, and they should take extra care of their idols. They know how crazy kpop fans can get and this could impact the Girls in a Bad Way
Do you know that social media was created with good intentions to connect people, but hate culture, cancel culture toxic culture took over. Is it the creator user fault? Do you know that car was invented to facilitate human to commute long distance easily, but so many death because of car accidents due to bad drivers. Who to blame the one that created cars or bad drivers?
fresh?? are we gonna pretend that k/da doesn't exist??
@Blue Ocean and maybe
This Concept Might Be Changed Kpop Forever
@@stanloonaforclearskin303 K/DA is NOT an official K-pop group. And SM did it way before K/DA with SNSD... Then let's talk about all the vocaloids. no it's not a new concept but it's fresh in the k-pop industry
@@elyeliza8287 if im not mistaken, k/da was inspired by kpop genre, they're like one of the first group to try this virtual concept to the public. I would say that k/da paved the way for introducing the virtual concept to the public
The scary thing about this is that the idols needs to conform on their avatars rather than making their avatars looking like them.
1 year later aespa got rookie grandslam the first sm girl group to do so, 2 daesang, 2 bonsang👏 sm be like: trust the process
anyways i remember not clicking at this video coz i know for a damn fact people were shitting and bashing aespa at that time
"Is SM about to make their biggest mistake ever"
To be fair this is what everyone says about every SM group that has ever debuted.
It was said about SuJu and SNSD when they debuted, that the group was too big and wouldn't be memorable, people also complained about having chinese members in SuJu, there were complaints about Exo being too big as well, and not being able to take after SuJu's popularity, the same with Red Velvet. Then NCT came along and people complained about the system objectifying the members, being a much too extreme version of the Kpop system that everyone criticizes, and so on. And now all of these groups have sold millions, and are respected figures in the industry so.....
I get the concerns with the group especially when it comes to objectifying and sexualizing the girls. But knowing SM they'll pull it off anyways
Like
This Could Be An Exception To SM
Because This Has Nothing To Do To the Girl . This Has To Do with The concept.
people just want SM's groups be flop
meanwhile they are not
@2freeIvX
Don’t get me wrong I’m also concerned about this. It’s just that so many people are immediately saying this group will be a failure or be bad for the industry when the same was said about every other SM group, and yet here we are
@2freeIvX YG just loves CL
so yeah
@Wandering Alpaca I have no doubt they'll be successful, I actually think the song sucks though, I was expecting better out of SM
Giselle doesnt have the shortest trainee period in SM. Chenle of NCT DREAM only trained for 2 months before debut
giselle is the first *female* idol to have the shortest trainee period in SM
@Ssuzen I didn’t hear the female part lmao
*laughs in olivia hye 1-day training period*
@@asahihanadont1277 queen shit tbh, look at our hyejoo go
but he didn’t say female though, right? or did I miss something?
I feel like male idols are favored alot in comparison to female idols.
Like with Bom she was basically let go bc of drug rumors but was innocent and GD was caught with drugs and he got away with it.
Its the same with the cheating scandal with exo vs irene being rude.
Double standards in kpop. So sad😔
I agree with you but fake cheating scandal and Irene scandal are totally different
Oml ikr
misogyny everywhere
yeah, also it really strikes me that after six years SM is releasing just four girls, when we know they've had lots of trainees and lots of talent. Whereas NCT has twenty plus members, they just can't wait to get their male idols in front of an audience whereas it seems like the female idols have less opportunities.
Tbh 'SM's biggest mistake' is SM rookie brand for decades now
its seems quite fresh concept yet does likely to cause much trouble in my opnion too
This is mess and has some bad implications. It can also cause body image issues since an idol will literally have something they are being compared to. Let's say a member gains or loses weight, it'll be more apparent since they literally have to look like an avatar
Edit: Although the avatars are not modeled to look exactly like the idols, I believe this a still be a problem since the virtual counterparts can be seen as more "desirable', the more perfect versions of the idols
I thought the same thing! This will give more fuel to haters... this isn't right.
exactly, they already made avatars look exaggeratedly thinner/curvier in places, this is not good....
The avatars are mascots or place holders for the members that’s why they don’t look the same, for example Giselle’s avatar.
Maybe that's the reason too, why they didn't make the virtual counterparts look like the members. It's to create an idea that they should not be compared.
And the virtual concept, i think, is just to complete the storyline.
@@cats_5332 thanks for bringing this up, the members may not look like their avatar, that's a good point. I believe this a still be a problem since the virtual counterparts will be more desirable
SM at releasing every group
"Is this the failure of SM?"
Like, freaking all the time.
@@circe9981 nah they will be successful but they are gonna have issues
@@ella-qh1zz well, people always throw rocks at things that shine so I wouldnt be to worried for issues
Lmao people just want to see SM fall.
They are now global super rookies
This tells that you should not say anything without knowing it completely
I'm just gonna laught at y'all now. aespa are already the chart queens, sm's top charting group in Melon only with their first comeback. they're just gonna get bigger and bugger at this point.
It's funny how every single sm group's debut era are always controversial and hated by kpoppies but it's always us sm stans who ends up laughing in the end cause they always ends up successful. I guess y'all never learn
Not Nathan calling another new girl group a mistake and them ending up tanking the charts😳
the problem is SM giving more focus on Karina, yes I understand if she was a center, but it was too much.. focus on another members too.
Don’t say that under any Aespa video tho you’re gonna get attacked by some toxic fan. made a comment about it under the “mv intro” vid about how Karina is the only member in it the three others weren’t a part of it AT ALL, also the Kai thing. I swear I was just curious and I said it nicely.
@@konikoni2511 was the kai thing true? I never knew if it was true or false. I'm genuinely asking btw
What's the kai thing?
@@Andraf-fx1ht she get to do this whole like three video with Kai, Exo-l was first informed that only Kai was gonna be in it but she was in it and had more solo parts and shots than Kai. The other members also gets nothing
@@lilah8652 the videos of her with Kai, I think it was for an ad of a car or something, but basically not only that she was the only one that got promoted outside of the whole Aespa debut activity but she got more shots than Kai
I think the "avatar" version of the girls falls to a weird category.
1. Coming from animation major, the avatars looks too realistic in proportion, but with exaggerated features. I'd actually prefer if they went further with the concept and maybe made the avatars sorta like EXO's "superpower" concept that they have, maybe add story that makes them more distinguishable than their IRL counterpart. (Maybe members who have "chatty/friendly" personality can have an avatar who has dog-like features/rounder design, or "evil/chaotic" members have sleeker, sharper design. The fact that they are computer generated makes the possibility endless!)
Also worried the exaggerated proportions of the avatar might make the girls have body image issues; too self-concious or harsh in judging themselves. (Not being as busty/skinny/white/* *insert other conventionally atractive features here* * as the avatar). I'm also worried for perverts and sasaengs who fail to separate reality from fiction, as these people unfortunately takes their entitlement too extreme.
2. This is just musings, but if in the future the group decides to disband (hopefully not!) how does copyright work for the avatars? Can the company still promote them with the IRL member's voices, or not? Can the girls still say the avatars' singing voice as their own? I'm not criticizing anything with this, but this needs a lot of communication and bouncary-establishment from both party.
Ikr!!
Like what if they fans or haters start comparing them with the AI characters.... This would create a really bad thing inside the member's minds of self esteem and self confidence which is the most important thing being an idol
Not a hater or a fan but I'm saying this as from a person who actually is neutral about this ... Which is that this will not only allow the power of fans to have control over the members but even the company might fall into a tragic failure...
I don't stan SM for reasons but I would actually really appreciate if they would treat their idols first and then look for profit, smh
I completely agree with your body image point. I was really surprised that no one else seems to be concerned about it. These avatars with unachievable, unhuman, features will make the beauty standard even more vicious and impossible to attain. I don't even want to imagine how self conscious the members might feel being compared to their "much prettier " ai counterparts.
the copywrite is really important to discuss. the aim of using ai for now is to fill in the gaps that an idol cant reach but what about when the idol takes an extended hiatus or maybe even leaves the company ? the idol's past work will be tied to this ae version of themselves and but if the sm continues to own the ai idols, how will that work ?
@@naeviswrld oh yeah that too!
You are right about the design, they should've been more creative with it, to me it looks too simple. Maybe add different skin color like purple or green to make the characters look more interesting and more futuristic.
Remember back in 2007 when the public thinks SNSD will be a flop since they thought it can’t compete in Boy-dominate Kpop industry.
Ep.1 Black Mamba entered the chat after 6 months
Hahahaha yes..!!!
again aespa are not a cover up. sm already had the aespa accounts set up during June and July and also filmed everything during that time and a bit earlier and as you mentioned they appeared in not only superms mv but also ncts recent mv so their timing is right and not rushed its more like Irenes scandal happened at the wrong time
i think he didnt meant it that way.... i think he meant the timing of the teasers.
not to mention, the girls have been preparing for their debut mv + choreo for almost half a year. one of the members, ningning, was also anticipated to be in sm’s new gg after being a trainee for 6 years and the remaining sr16g left. they definitely did not pop out of nowhere.
@@hwaehyu5300 that was literally the only point they could have fit in this year though
Right? The argument is ridiculous. They were set to debut “this year” and “this year” ends in less than two months 😂 it’s bad timing, not a nefarious cover up.
well, this didn't aged well
Aespa is on next level now
The “mistake” that is now breaking records✨
Moral lesson:don’t judge too quickly
yassssssss
Frrr
It was obviously they we're about to break records from the beginning.
But depending on the way they will use the Avatar's in the future it could be a big mistake.
@@Yomomcancomegetit from the first launch they talk about how they will incorporate AI aspect in aespa, it was obvious they will not use it further than just to make a big storyline in SMCU
@@teacher-Eri you never know with SM, that's the problem.
If they see more ways to make money with it they will do it.
"Mistake"???? Okay, you judged too quickly mate, they have the best concept now ngl
Every idols debuted in SM are literally dubbed as SM's biggest mistake. From EXO, RV, NCT and now Aespa. And then months later, they're literally taking the industry by storm. Yep. Biggest mistake.
Yep the big mistake is now givenchy ambassadors within three months because the director reached out to them 🤣 queen things 😭
Now what are your thoughts everybody? I thought you all were saying that aespa's concept was a mistake 🤡
I honestly cant wait to see Red Velvet and Aespa interact with each other. Overall, I see Red Velvet staying judging from what I'm looking at the Korean media and reddit/youtube/twitter at large. Also, I think the "AI" thing is going to be more or less like K/DA. Anyways, have a great Friday!
no please
@@tomx.y.1954 what's up?
@@Noctis198 those avatars have the plague be careful 👀
@@tomx.y.1954 the plague here is you bro
The problem isn't the concept, the problem is the weirdos that don't know boundaries between fan and artist.
Honestly, pretty much all of SM's groups were called the company's biggest failures in the beginning, and all of them do exceptionally well in the end lol. At the end of the day that company really do know what they're doing, so I think aespa will be fine.
Except ShiNee debut. Though they didn't win any awards but Replay is regarded as the Best debut song.
@@rashiagarwal3113 Yep! That's why I said 'most', SHINee had a crazy successful debut lol
Yep totally agree. But anyway I think it's ok not to take so seriously if people think it will fail, let the business speak for it self. Honestly I don't even know a lot about kpop but it does seem more like a a successful business than anything else, always producing more high quality idols
I know I was wondering why they kept blaming the concept and not the perverted fans who perpetuate it because before this AI thing, there were already deepfakes and h**tai of real idols being made and spread around, Idk why not complain about that instead?
It happens with Suju, Exo, RV, NCT and now with Aespa
Unpopular opinion: Every single decision that SM has made in the past has been questioned by everyone, including fans and critics alike. However SM doesn't care at all and, guess what? 90% of time SM idea works. That´s why I believe that SM knows something that everyone ignores, they know what they are doing. If SM stop and listen to every single critic that someone makes to their idea, we would't have any SM idol or any kpop company for that matter because, here is a fun fact for you: SM. Entertainment was the firts kpop company to exist and, is the company that star the training sistem that every single kpop company use 'till this day. Is the company perfect? Of course not. Do SM need to improve in some aspect, especially in their treatment to the artists? Undoubtedly. However, whether you want to admit it or not, SM was and still is the standard in the korean entertainment industry.
Ok..I wanna bet SM on this one and I would say this won't be successful. Not because of concept but because of the competition with other GG, they've seem more ahead than AESPA.
@@joswanlauwkung I feel like new groups these days are having concepts either vampires and so on, from the records am seeing aespa is still doing good and more than great, the ai characters are not even a big deal like idols genuinely liked them, it's all about the girls...aespa just had a debut a few months ago while other 4th gen gg debuted before them so obviously there will be competition as more groups will be created but they got lots of attention so they are worth the competition let's see what will happen with their new comeback on may 17th..
SAY IT LOUDERRR
@@joswanlauwkung Update: They are successful. The concept is working really well.
If initial pre debut public opinion was accurate, Super Junior, SNSD, EXO, and NCT would have all bombed.
400k album pre-orders 👀🙊 4th gen queens wbk
This didn’t aged well 😂 Aespa is slaying rn.
When Nathan constantly perpetuates the hate towards new girl groups who worked so hard to debut😍
SM is like giving a kid with a shit ton of money then that kid buys everything/anything
Now? They are the "NEW CHART QUEENS!"
I now realize that Red Velvet is the only ‘normal’ group left
I don't understand.. What about the other groups? Itzy, Everglow, Twice, Gidle, CLC, etc..?
@@nikisaurus77 i think he meant "i now realize that red velvet is the only normal group left in SM"
@@hf-cc8ff ohh,yah.. That might be true😕
@@nikisaurus77 how is NCT abnormal? bc of the infinite member thing?
Why?? What happened the other group?? I didn't get it
It's weird that apparently the avatars were worked on for a year, because they don't look like the members at all! If it's going to take that much time to work with them, hopefully they won't be a big part of the group.
The avatars aren’t supposed to look like the members. There place holders or mascots for the members in their separate groups. Thing of it as 2 bodies that are different but same personality. Or atleast that’s what I heard from people that are talking about it
Smh
@@ethanol4367 That can really backfire...there are so many ppl who already see idols as their own or as their lovers...now imagine the level of obsession once these virtual version of members also become a thing.
@@xa1239 sm take a legal action towards this if you are worrying. And think about it, ai is programmed. Do you think the programme has sxx lovers thing in it? Cmon it's kpop, all they do will be kpop related things like fansign etc.
@@hrjsbae4091 That's not the point...I dont care if ppl get off to them cos that will happen no matter what...go online and read or watch videos about saesangs and you'll know that they are actual psychopaths....they genuinely believe idols are their lovers and that they have control/ownership over them....now imagine the level of obsession and ownership they would feel over real life idols after interacting with their virtual versions and feeling like they've gotten close with the virtual version.
I just need to laugh at the title pffftt
The morale from this, never judge people too quickly because you never know how it works.
They are now e record breaker, becoming monster rookies with already many daesang, the fastest mv debut in 24 hours, next level becoming korean anthem.. its not even 2 years since their debut so...
Yes 😭 And now they are the first fourth gen girl group Million sellers. They are here to make fourth gen Kpop more interesting than ever
It’s true aespa debuted at a time where sm has some controversies lol but they’ve been in the works since like 2015(the idea of a group with virtual members) and aespa was actually said to debut in early 2020, they debuted later
actually, NCT CHENLE trained shorter than giselle. his trainee period lasted only 3 months
Pretty sure its for female category
Also Ryeowook trained for only 4months.
@@dahooud599 if he meant female then he should have specified
Chen and Baekhyun also trained only for 3 months
ryeowook got inthe company september and super junior debuted at november.. that makes 2months trainee period ..
SUJU= SM BIGGEST MISTAKE
SNSD= SM BIGGEST MISTAKE
EXO=SM BIGGEST MISTAKE
RV= SM BIGGEST MISTAKE
NCT= SM BIGGEST MISTAKE
LITERALLY EVERY GROUP THAT DEBUTED IN SM WERE CLAIMED AS BIGGEST MISTAKE YET THEY ALL SUCCEED.
SHINEE AND F(X) WASN'T MENTIONED BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE SUPPORTED THEM WHEN THEY DEBUTED. SOME HATED THEM BUT THEY WEREN'T CALLED A MISTAKE
Have you watch the video? You have to know about the concept first, think about the AI effects, this is just like black mirror
In the video he is saying really logical point, don't let your fanaticism blend you...
Its not about the group, its the concept and how the girls can be objectified
DID YOU EVEN WATCH THE VIDEO?
Calm down there ma’am
I really feel bad for Red Velvet and how this group might debut in a very strange situation.
This give me a dejavú of the last years of F(x).
I think the same they will just dump red velvet like they dumped F(x)
@@samualbhuiyan2308 fx were never in the same league as RV tho. Almost 7 years since their debut and RV still have the best selling single amongst Kpop groups this year. Hope SM dont trash them. they deserve to release something at least. :/
@@hyukri comparing f(x) and RV is stupid the scale of kpop is different at that time, in that era if you are famous in japan it was a lot but now kpop is more globalized, but if your comparing RV in terms of sell and popularity there no where near twice in eastern asia
@@samualbhuiyan2308 I'm talking about Korean's Gaon Chart. It is standardized chart amongst all Korean releases and encompass all K-music streaming platforms on one chart (edit: even 10 years ago). RV is hitting best Selling Idol Song of the year 7 years into their debut. Something F(x) could not do at their time. I'm not saying F(x) is a flop. I'm just saying RV isn't "done".
@@hyukri then again if you think about it from SM perspective if keeping RV is profitable they will definitely keep them but for how long that is the question
Aespa and mys watching this vid be like: Chill anyways so.....
lmao here after the episode 1 of sm cultural universe
This is almost like that one Black Mirror episode with Miley Cyrus
sm debuting aespa is not a mistake, THE CONCEPT IS THE MISTAKE
...?
Not really considering that most of the concerts are virtua right now through web pages they can work something out that is really interesting as long as the concept works like kda and true damage because if they try to apply a hatsune miku shenannigan then they will fail like kda in their latest appearence in fact the most problematic thing would be that as they will be virtual the people will do anything with the characters in one way or another and that might actually trouble either the members sm directives or both or maybe even the fandom in certain places can be affected because if this i mean thinking about vtubers that are another kind virtual avatar they cant search their name in google without expecting something out of ordinary
agreed, red velvet debuted about 6 years ago so aespa wasn't a mistake
Lmao SMs ideas are creative and iconic
His concepts are revolutionary
The ae concept is amazing just like the red velvet, Exo, Nct concept.
Haters hate but find their favs copying SMs ideas later jdjdjdk
@엔시티 i like you're profile picture :D
Last year: UGH WE DONT NEED ÆSPA
This year: WE NEED ÆSPA NEW COMEBACK ASAP
I'm just worried those virtual reality of the members will be used in a wrong way by wrong kind of people..
To quickly talk about K/DA, I'd love if the "K-pop community" would consider them as a real K-pop group. I mean, they released a mini album and all, so...
SAME
If music is the primary reason why one would be a fan of K-pop, then K/DA has a lot going for it compared to most K-pop groups. K/DA has way better songs than some of the more popular groups, imo.
K/DA songs be HITTING
@@cesmariano2969 LoL player detected lmao
Right! I wonder what they'll say when the Twice members join in. Hmm
Aespa isn’t going to be a mistake, they’ve been planned to debut for a while, and considering they’re an SM group they’ll definitely be successful. SM’s mistake would be messing with Red Velvet. Maybe this android concept might be a mistake, but the group Aespa and its members aren’t a mistake, and we should still support them as hardworking trainees debuting as rookies.
this video aged like milk
this video didn't age well lmao. AESPA JUST PROVED ALL OF YOU WRONG! they're now the most successful rookie in the whole kpop industry. NEVER JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS COVER.
Finnaly a smart person 👍
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