So, I know this rant is a bit winded (and aggressive) but I appreciate you guys coming out to watch! If you have something to add, please leave it down here in the comments section for further discussion with fellow Controller nerds lol One thing I also forgot to bring up is the series 2 revision. This videos is focused more so on the series 3, but since I was already discussing it I probably should've brought that up. There's no evidence to suggest the Elite Series 2 got a revision during its current run unfortunately. Even if it did, the same problems happen with this controller in all the same spots! Okay, I'm done ranting 😂
Despite what you say about the 2 and 3 i still wanna see what microsoft comes up with I dont own an elite or any really fancy custom controller I have the stock one with stick extenders and trigger stops so I havnt tested it personally but if microsoft really does fix the 3 like everybody wants them to I might actually buy one but after like a year so that we can see those long term reviews roll in and if anybody had serious stick drift/bumper/anything issues im not gonna even think about buying a controller that cost over half the cost of my console just for it to break in 3 months
They favor comfortability over durability . They should make pro controllers that have less features but last longer. Because they waste time making these random features when all people really want is a controller with 2-4 paddle’s , that last a long time
if they could make a single use controller they would. Like it would be the most comfortable controller ever but it would last for a day and it costs 20 bucks because fuck you, the consumer.
Companies will never make things that never broke down they not thinking about the consumer they thinking about their company is convenient for them to make something that breaks so you can buy another one ☝️
@@vCuda hey 👋 I love your videos. I have razer raiju tournament edition. Do you know which kontrolfreeks would fit bc I hear ps4 and xbox one's don't?? Thanks
Dude you might be my favorite youtuber right now. Just wanna let you know there are still people who still appreciate honesty and take it as one of the best virtues to have. Having said that, I had an elite controller 1st gen for like a year and never gave me any problems, and I played a lot of Destiny with it. That is the only thing I miss about being on Xbox, I am a Sony Pony now (according to most people on the internet). Anyway, big fan! stay honest and I'll stay watching
@@uybshadow6272 oh yeah, before buying I read a lot of people having problems with the bumpers (mostly RB). I was scared but went for it and I was lucky I guess.
Had both elite series controllers and both had stick drift within the first year. Great feeling controller but when the launch controller last longer than my $250 plus controller there’s a problem.
We need more people like you on TH-cam! I wish I had done my homework on the series 2. I’ve had one replaced so far after about 5 months with very little usage as own ps5 too and two buttons stopped working most the time and already know this replacement that’s refurbished not new probably won’t last long! They should be recalled given the massive amount of problems reported.
thx for uploading today, my days been shitty, so this helps. i started off blacking out in the shower, almost dying. plus its also my finals week, and i have so much to do before 9 pm
I loved my Series 1. Maybe I just got lucky, but it was exactly what I expected and lasted me about a year and a half with few mechanical issues. So when it finally became unusable, I was actually excited to get my hands on the Series 2. It looked sleek, and I just thought to myself, "The Series 1 did fine by me, and they couldn't possibly go backwards." Boy was I wrong. Now I haven't used the controller in a while now, so I don't even remember what issues I had with it. I think it was something along the lines of stick drift and one of the sticks didn't even click. It was something like that. Regardless, this was all within 1-2 months of even owning the controller, making them literally... And I mean literally unusable. For all I know it came outta the box with these problems. After that experience, you would have to show me multiple videos of people praising the fuck out of the Series 3, without being paid to do so, for me to even consider buying another Elite Controller. Guess we'll just have to wait and see. Edit: I'm also not the type to buy warranties. It's expensive enough as it is. If I'm gonna pay 150+ on something like a controller, I expect to get my moneys worth. For my controller to be broken damn near right out of the box, I wouldn't even want a replacement.
You should have taken the replacement and sold it, would have least got your money back? Agree, these things are expensive! My experience is opposite, S1 was garbage S2 been great BUT recently bottom grip started peeling, new bottom chassis required at £60. Can buy a brand new controller on eBay for £100. Have to say, I do really like the S2 though.
I get where your coming from not wanting to buy warranty, but you should be thinking about it the opposite way man, the more expensive something is , should be more reason to insure it, like u don’t get a 100k car and not get full coverage on it ya know? I just got a series 2 and I paid $20 more for 3 YEARS coverage, I had my series 1 controller 2 years with no issues and only cashed in on the warranty because I wasn’t using it anymore and figured I could use the $200. Lol. Buy the warranty and u can literally get ur money back minus the warranty cost 3 years down the road even if u don’t want to replace it.
I stand by my statement from a year ago. The razed tournament and I’m assuming the ultimate are the best controllers. I’ve had mine for a year. And this is a year of hard use on Fortnite which is known to destroy controllers and the only thing wrong with it is the left thumbstick is wearing down. And it’s still not bad because the thumbstick were created so thick. I genuinely stand by this controller.
I'm disappointed no one has utilized lidar sensors to calculate the position of a joy stick instead of using the good old direct contact method. There are keyboards that have moved to laser triggers, the mechanical click just being there for feel. So they could do the same thing with controller joysticks. Just a bit more math and will probably cost more. But I think it would be a good add for an almost 200 dollar controller. Imagine if stick drift can be fixed by either swapping out a joystick insert, cleaning the joystick and the socket, or recalibration the lasers.
I hope to inspire more of this in the tech space as I grow! I enjoy nothing more than a reviewer who's priority is being up front with their audience. I've been seeing more of it gradually with smaller channels and I hope this trend continues
I was going to buy the Elite Series 2 Controller, but you convinced me otherwise so I went digging into reviews and found your Wolverine Tournament edition review. And let me tell you I'm not disappointed! Thank you brotha!
I just wish they made one that was *exactly* like the stock controller except for the paddles. That way, there would be less stuff that would go wrong. (And stock Xbox controllers have been very reliable for me.) Sincerely, a big fool who just bought a new Elite Series 2 because my 3-year-old one failed with its bumper. It's hard to go back once you get used to the bumpers and customisation (shift stuff).
Those adjustable tension thumbstick modules were a mistake, not only do they make the modules less reliable and more prone to drift, but they increase the amount of slop in the sticks (the mechanical deadzone) because of the increased amount of moving parts. You can really feel it in comparison to the new Series X controllers that have slightly better recentering force on the sticks than the old ones. I think I used my Elite S2 like, 3-4 times? Then it went straight back in the case and I went back to using my Elite S1, entirely because of the sticks.
You can also add the fact that most controllers doesn't have mechanical switches for buttons but insist on membranes which fail way too earlier. My 45€ Hori Octa seen a lot of abuse on Streets of Rage 4 and the buttons feel still great. If a 45€ keyboard can afford 80 high quality mechanical switches, any stock controller should also come with mechanical switches too.
In Europe we don't have any stick drift problems: the minimum warranty is 2 years (by law); if the product breaks under warranty and is returned, the 2 years start again. I've been using the same controller (Elite Series I) for 4½ years.
bought the series 2 after basically seeing every controller has qc issues. it was 140 and now has the 1 year warranty, only took a week playing halo infinite on my pc to get the stick drift lol.. keep up the vids man. Still can return it but I dunno anymore. If you haven't already you should do a tier list of best if money isn't a factor and best for the money of your opinion.
i had the all white elite series one controller and it worked perfectly for 2 years. Then I used a warranty to get the series 2 when it dropped and it was a terrible mistake.
So, ExtremeRate released a faceplate for the stock Series X controller that has the rubberization and precision rings even down to the pattern, similar to the ES2. I'm going to do a build. I'm fucking pumped.
He's right tho, 4 months in and both my bumpers stoped working, got it sent to get fixed and not even a month in and the left analog starts drifting like crazy. It sucks that these things happen because i stoped using all my other controllers as soon as i bought it.
i really enjoy the rants, man. I get really annoyed by reviewers that get the new package and never go back to product months later or do teardowns (i know they have a LOT of things to review so they can't always). So all the viewer / consumer is left with is a really nice controller or gadget or widget that is fresh out of the box and of course it's really nice day one. Car reviewers fall into that same category for me. yeah it drove great on the test loop, cool. How does it do when it's -20 out? does it creak all the damn time? does the bluetooth take forever to connect? So many people on these platforms end up just being QVC Salesmen and it's gross. Thanks for being You. I'll shut up
Please never stop!! ❤❤👍👍 (ps. I bought an additional Elite series 2 Core next to my original S2 also.... no bad experience yet but they definitely suckered me in again too.... 🙄)
This country and the world needs more honest content like this. Companies and content creators have babied the public for too long and now many people can not handle the truth. You channel is a breath of fresh air, stay true to your self and keep the honesty flowing. On another note would you be interested in reviewing the Victrix Gambit? I think most of the reviews out right now are very surface level and I am not sure I trust them. Just a thought, thanks for the great content.
This video reminds of my my 360 wireless headset I had once that had a 90 day warranty. Had one it worked for actually a decent amount of time but when it replaced it with a new one it died in like 100 days. Called Microsoft and originally they denied the claim but after persistence on the phone they escalated it and I got someone who could get me a new one. The person even told me on the phone the cause was actually the charger they sent with it. The guy said he would send a different charger in the mail with a new headset and it survived over 5 years until the 360 became obsolete. If I recall correctly they never did change the default charger sent with those headsets so only those who called in got got their value back on them.
Bro, this is the first video I have seen from you and I never have related to a TH-camr more in my Life. I absolutely Love any Human being that is as real as You. You are now my main source for Reviews etc... For gaming. You have no filter and don't give A F_
There also could be that Microsoft has realized both these “Elite” controllers have had terrible launches and to this day have many quality control issues. It might be the case they’re done with these controllers and don’t want to make another one to avoid another lawsuit after what happened with the series 2. That being said, if they make a series 3 they really need to work out the durability issues as their main priority. I’m thinking, maybe they can just tune the controller to have the extreme tension on the right thumb stick, change the thumb sticks to something more reliable, and change the triggers to only have a racer and smart trigger. The ability to switch between a 50% and nearly 1% trigger stop. The latter being clicky as we love mouse click triggers. The paddles are fine, better than the first one since they aren’t sensitive and are smaller than the first one. Keep the profiles at 3 and keep the accessories feature. That being said, it’s hard to compete when Razer has those Wolverine controllers, the PowerA controllers are bang for your buck, and Extremrate allows you to make your own pro controller with their parts. (It’s not easy considering some require you to solder some stuff on and that’s always a hassle.) At the end of the day, the Elite controllers are truly the case of hit or miss. Mostly being miss as the things are breaking down on many people rapidly. It’s hard to say if a Elite 3 will happen.
@@nerychristian it’s too bad companies like SCUF can’t release the trigger set they use for their new instinct Pro because those feel like mouse clicks.
Not a fan-boy by any means, but I genuinely feel bad for anyone that's had issues with the elite series 2 controller. I got one as a gift around December 2019, and I haven't had any issues with it other than me dropping it. Messing one of the paddles up and now it'll need a hot glue fix so it clicks easier
I don't understand why there is no company that makes controllers with magnetic potentiometers. There is no direct contact so there is absolutely no way they develop drift from the pads grinding away. The dreamcast controller and sixaxis controller had a stick that used magnetism instead of resistive pads and they are extremely resistant to drift.
I keep saying this on this channel, but I brought an elite series 2, off the back of a review online. After 3 months I got stick drift and after 5 months the LB button started to get unreliable. I went online to try to find out why and found this channel, got the Razor Wolverine tournament edition and can honestly say it was the best controller I ever used. Started to get slight stick drift after 14 months (after many hours of play). That controller was recommended by this channel. Shame the wolverine TE looks crap, otherwise I would have brought it in a flash. Currently using a Vitrix Gambit and so far, so good.
Jesus Christ your rant is my rant every since I purchased the series 1. After the series 2 I'll be looking for a better 1 but shit to be quiet honest finding a good wireless controller is fucking maddening! I wanna pull my hair out just thinking about it sometimes.
Oh I make sure to thoroughly research any product especially tech purchases. To make my decisions on what to buy. Its why I love your channel so much I dont have to dig through BS to get to the truth about a product. I just stay subd to your channel. 🙂
I use the elite s2 daily, have dropped it with the pieces exploding and haven’t had an issue yet 🤞🏼🤞🏼but that’s why I spent the $20 extra on the warranty. Extra 3 years on the warranty.
All 3 of my Elites straight out the box in 2022: 1. A and Y buttons dont respond to all presses 2. Moving the sticks while theyre clicked in makes them grind against internal components (LMAO) 3. Flicking the sticks results in input being sent in the opposite direction Not a controller for pros because the thing was broken before R&D packed up their sketchbooks for the day
Cuda, i know you are reading comments, please don't ignore this. First i want to say, Great video as always. Now, from watching your video on the Razer Wolverine Ultimate, I've decided to buy one for myself and let me tell, you, it was a blast, WAS, because after 5 just 5 months of using it, it just died on me, for no reason whatsoever. I've been taking care of it, always cleaning it up, always putting it back in its case after using, using it only with it's original cable etc. and it just died on me. Please Cuda, is there a way to somehow contact you, maybe talk a bit about this, maybe there is a ways to fix it, because i can't throw it away, i just can't. Thank you so much, i hope you read this...
I’ve been watching your videos for a few months and really enjoy how your really honest with your reviews! I heard about the Victrix Gambit Xbox controller lately and wanted to know your opinion on it. Could you do a video reviewing it? Keep up the good work
Probably the BEST honest video I have seen! Agree with everything said! An options video would be great, what controller should we buy? Always trust a HONEST REVIEW!
Whilst I do love my controller it was your videos that helped me decide. Weighed out options the Razer Wolverine V2C was the one I got, but I know it will fail eventually. Out of all the crap at least it’s good crap. Keep up the great vids!
Same here wolverine best I ever had. Just bought elite 2 yesterday and my turtle beach is hands down way better. Feels a bit cheap but your not thinking about that when cracking skulls on infinite.
Can you do the Wolverine te vs the v2 chroma please? I’m still deciding which one I should get (Loving the content my guy keep giving out honest content so we can rely on someone)
If I ever think about buying a Microsoft controller again im watching this guy and not anyone else becaues I know he will give me the good the bad and the ugly keep it up
Just got a series 2 from Costco with their credit card. Should be a free replacement no questions asked. Will update here once I get it in the mail. FYI mostly play fps
My 2x spectra infinitys with warranty swaps is still going strong. No mic buzz with proper stereo headset. When one drifted i sent it off. Used the other. It came back a new one. The pad feels great. £65 for pro controller for two years :D until i find eventually an even better cheaper option haha
this dude needs 3 million subs right meow !! i had one it hardly even last like 8 months maybe i like the controller but it fell apart completely bumpers wouldn't work
Love your vids man. Can you please do a review on the xim nexus controller when it releases? I think it has the potential to be the best controller ever honestly
Did you know that all Xbox controllers after the 360 era have a fatal flaw? I don't see anyone talking about it. If you press one of the face buttons down and wiggle your finger just a little, it will fire the button like a turbo function. This is makes it so that "double presses" happen extremely often, ending up with buttons being pressed when you didn't want them to.
i have an elite 2 and play warzone almost daily. My controller has held up very nicely you just have to know how to take care of it. Your video on keeping stick drift at bay is very good. using the paddles to replace stick clicks is key. You also mentioned dust being a big problem which is true luckily pure isopropyl alcohol will fix about any button issue. My bumpers have slowly quit working 3 times over the year but i just open the controller apply a small bit of alcohol to the button and it fixes it like magic back to 100% working order. Regular people dont know these tricks and just write a bad review and buy another pricey controller.
While I do understand what you're saying and all of these methods do actually work to counteract issues, the problem isn't "just knowing how to take care of it." Why should I have to disassemble and fix a $180 Controller period? It shouldn't require that much on the consumers end for a product to be usable. Especially something like a pricey pro Controller
@@vCuda you are right. The issue stems from the shitty components used. I dont know much about button technology but i agree the fact ive had to maintain my controller via my own research is annoying. Microsoft may very well design them to break intentionally.
was hoping at the end you would use the "twist his DI*K" video lol. You are enjoyable to watch when i just want to hear the most honest review of anything. I appreciate the no holds bar approach to all you do. I have been literally watching reviews for the last 2 weeks on every controller out there and haven't been able to settle on what i want. I have scuf, Battle Beaver, Extreme rate, and elite series 2. Nothing ever meets the expectations or needs of us as consumer gamers. At times its basically settling for something "good enough".
Bought a used Elite 1 - had drift. Bought a second used Elite 1 - works fine to this day (going on two years). Also bought a used Elite 2 last year - left bumper is b0rked. 60 bucks for a used controller was a bit of a hit and miss. Can't see me ever paying retail for a new Elite, though.
I'm using this dualshock4 for 7years and still act normal as new. Bought one more for a sub but hasn't touched it cuz first one nvr broken. Just only setback is that u gotta charge every time u play but still great considering how old this controller is.
Will you ever do a review on the Victrix Gambit xbox remote, been planning on getting it, but obviously you're a reliable dude, so I would want to know what your thoughts would be on it
I bought an Elite after watching countless positive reviews. My experience matched their review FOR THE FIRST WEEK. Then it was all downhill. These guys review it by using it for a few matches and then record the review.
Rant is 1000000000000% warranted. It's paddles design and having trigger stops was the only revolutionary thing for me, but even they are pointless if the sticks are garbage. Had 3, and returned the last. The Victrix is the controller that has been the most refreshing for me to use in a long while. It's probably the opposite of the Elite in the respect that it performs really well, but its the materials that its made with that makes it feel cheap. It's not that its feels cheap like it would break, you can just tell they used standard materials to help bring the price point down. Ergonomically it feels great in the hand and the back paddles/buttons function feels the best outside of how the elite does it. The trigger width and trigger stops are the other big pluses to this controller. It's not without its flaws, the triggers stops first setting can feel too sensitive. You can use the standard sticks, but using Kontrolfreaks on it is a must, but i use those on all my controllers anyway. Most of the negative comments I've only found focus on how it feels cheap or it feels to light. Basically all to do with cosmetic crap that means nothing if all you want is to do is consistently destroy people in FPS games. I'll take performance over fancy RGB lighting any day. I emplore people to give the Victrix a shot for $100 makes it a steal. The more attention it gets the more reason Victrix has to keep improving on it. They got it right from the inside out and how it performs, where others like MS and Razer seem to focus on the premium feel of the outer shell over the internals and how it functions.
I dropped my first series 2 controller a few times then some of the paddles started to not work that well, so I got it refunded then got a new one. Since I learned from my past mistakes, I treated that one like a king and it 2 paddles still broke (had to press extra hard for them to register) after 10 months. annoyed me a lot.
Huh. Me and my girl have sat on this controller, (series 2 ) ans no stick drift ,no bumper fails ,no cracks ,everything feels smooth af ,my old controllers usually starts feeling flimsy ,after a while
I love this video (as I'm putting back together a Dual Sense w/a broken trigger spring.... ) .5 cent part... could have beefed this shit up a bit... ya know, for the 70 dollar price tag.,,, but the haptic feedback is sooo nice, and the upgraded thumbsticks...... cough cough, the same sensors they've used since dual shock 3... cough cough... same sensors that all xbox controllers use.. cough... cough.. shit i'm getting sick i think.. damn truth keeps making my throat itch. lol. keep up the good work man!
You should review the nacon revolution unlimited pro controller, I think they have a different thumbstick module, I've been using it for a year plus and I have no stick drift at 0 deadzone. It might have something to do with the low stick tension which also feels amazing.
Thanks for recommending the Razer wolverine V2 Chroma. It's literally the best controller I have used and I have gotten two of my friends to replace their elite controllers with Wolverines. I hate Microsoft and the elite series 2 my RB button went out 2 weeks in. 🤦♂️ I've had my wolverine for 2 months and not had a single problem
I just got the regular Wolverine V2 and I really like the controller and I am thinking about getting the V2 Chroma so I can go a little bit harder in Halo and COD games.
Off topic, but I bought the Wolverine Ultimate after watching your many videos on it and doing more of my own research on it and despite a minor amount of right stick drift, I love the controller, thanks for the honest reviews, man!
Watching this right after both of my bumpers are either double clicking or unresponsive alongside the left analog stick up/down sensor decides to shit itself
7:13 you're one of the few that actually emphasizes this problem. Juan Bagnell has been beating this same drum for phone reviews, and Michael the Maven for cameras.
It's a genuine issue! It's very selfish of reviewers to make positive reviews just to be on a companies good side for future product endorsements. It isn't right
vCuda, love watching your videos! Keep it up bro!! There should be more TH-camrs like you!! Tbh I got the Scuf Instinct Pro! Hopefully this controller doesn't have problems down the road!
Question, what if the elite series 3 has a whole new joystick mechanic that's completely different from every other controller? Like magnetic joystick or something just out of no where? And they guarantee 100% stick drift free. Worth every penny?
It would be, but again, why would Microsoft feel obligated to do that? It's not like reviewers would care that much, they just look at surface level features most the time anyways. Especially the bigger ones who get sent Microsoft products At the end of the day, there's no reason for them to reinforce a product that people will love regardless of how reliable it is. So keeping it unreliable just guarantees more sales
Bit the bullet and bought a Series 2 about a year ago. Within 6 months both bumpers failed so sometimes it would register one normal click sometimes it wouldn't register anything at all sometimes it would register two clicks so I literally couldn't play cod or fortnite at all. Got my warranty replacement and within HALF THE TIME the left stick just simply stopped working. It clicked and moved completely fine but in the games, sometimes I would move forward normally sometimes I wouldn't move at all lol so it's literally unusable I can't move half the time it's like how tf does that even happen? Checked scuf's wesbite and customized a controller...$250+ yeah smfd lmao seriously. Now I'm forcing myself to learn kb&m cuz these controllers are such a scam. $180 and they're guaranteed to break no matter how good you take care of them yet people keep buying them.
@vCuda can you review the Gulikit King Kong Pro 2 to see if they are durable? Only thing missing is back paddles / buttons. I was thinking with a controller adapter maybe it could be a reliable controller for Xbox. I will be waiting for a potential King Kong Pro 3 with back buttons though
I've had both generations. Rubber came off the first one but it pretty much worked, 2nd one is getting Bumper issues. Was pissed it only came with 3 program channels too.. This is a forced restriction in my view, nothing stopping them having hundreds.
So, I know this rant is a bit winded (and aggressive) but I appreciate you guys coming out to watch! If you have something to add, please leave it down here in the comments section for further discussion with fellow Controller nerds lol
One thing I also forgot to bring up is the series 2 revision. This videos is focused more so on the series 3, but since I was already discussing it I probably should've brought that up. There's no evidence to suggest the Elite Series 2 got a revision during its current run unfortunately. Even if it did, the same problems happen with this controller in all the same spots!
Okay, I'm done ranting 😂
Despite what you say about the 2 and 3 i still wanna see what microsoft comes up with I dont own an elite or any really fancy custom controller I have the stock one with stick extenders and trigger stops so I havnt tested it personally but if microsoft really does fix the 3 like everybody wants them to I might actually buy one but after like a year so that we can see those long term reviews roll in and if anybody had serious stick drift/bumper/anything issues im not gonna even think about buying a controller that cost over half the cost of my console just for it to break in 3 months
Battle beavers are my favorite they just are nice
Will you ever review the Turtle Beach controller?
😂😂😂
My PS4 controller just got fried from the inside out I think it was because of the USB cable. Now I can only play switch games.
They favor comfortability over durability . They should make pro controllers that have less features but last longer. Because they waste time making these random features when all people really want is a controller with 2-4 paddle’s , that last a long time
if they could make a single use controller they would.
Like it would be the most comfortable controller ever but it would last for a day and it costs 20 bucks because fuck you, the consumer.
and trig stoppers
Companies will never make things that never broke down they not thinking about the consumer they thinking about their company is convenient for them to make something that breaks so you can buy another one ☝️
Victrix Gambit.
I want buttons more durable. Dont need rgb or wireless
Clicked as soon as I saw rant. I know this is gonna be a good one 🍿
agreed
Woke up and chose corporate violence 😈
@@vCuda hey 👋 I love your videos. I have razer raiju tournament edition. Do you know which kontrolfreeks would fit bc I hear ps4 and xbox one's don't?? Thanks
Dude you might be my favorite youtuber right now. Just wanna let you know there are still people who still appreciate honesty and take it as one of the best virtues to have.
Having said that, I had an elite controller 1st gen for like a year and never gave me any problems, and I played a lot of Destiny with it. That is the only thing I miss about being on Xbox, I am a Sony Pony now (according to most people on the internet).
Anyway, big fan! stay honest and I'll stay watching
it really is hit or miss with these controllers. In my case I had three replacements in the span of 6 months.
@@uybshadow6272 oh yeah, before buying I read a lot of people having problems with the bumpers (mostly RB). I was scared but went for it and I was lucky I guess.
12% of the gamers😂
Had both elite series controllers and both had stick drift within the first year. Great feeling controller but when the launch controller last longer than my $250 plus controller there’s a problem.
I must have gotten extremely lucky because my series 1 i got back in 2018 I've never had an issue with, still looks new, feels new, and plays new
We need more people like you on TH-cam! I wish I had done my homework on the series 2. I’ve had one replaced so far after about 5 months with very little usage as own ps5 too and two buttons stopped working most the time and already know this replacement that’s refurbished not new probably won’t last long! They should be recalled given the massive amount of problems reported.
thx for uploading today, my days been shitty, so this helps. i started off blacking out in the shower, almost dying. plus its also my finals week, and i have so much to do before 9 pm
I got the razer wolverine ultimate because of your reviews and have absolutely loved it, keep up the good work!
Me to, i verry big like this controller, full controll my aim.
Do you recommend wolverine ultimate ? i consider this one and elite 2 series
how does it feel in the hand comfort wise?
No hopes for a MS designed Elite Series 3.
Hoping Razer's next version features mouse click triggers and bumpers
The irony in this comment lol
I loved my Series 1. Maybe I just got lucky, but it was exactly what I expected and lasted me about a year and a half with few mechanical issues. So when it finally became unusable, I was actually excited to get my hands on the Series 2. It looked sleek, and I just thought to myself, "The Series 1 did fine by me, and they couldn't possibly go backwards." Boy was I wrong. Now I haven't used the controller in a while now, so I don't even remember what issues I had with it. I think it was something along the lines of stick drift and one of the sticks didn't even click. It was something like that. Regardless, this was all within 1-2 months of even owning the controller, making them literally... And I mean literally unusable. For all I know it came outta the box with these problems. After that experience, you would have to show me multiple videos of people praising the fuck out of the Series 3, without being paid to do so, for me to even consider buying another Elite Controller. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.
Edit: I'm also not the type to buy warranties. It's expensive enough as it is. If I'm gonna pay 150+ on something like a controller, I expect to get my moneys worth. For my controller to be broken damn near right out of the box, I wouldn't even want a replacement.
You should have taken the replacement and sold it, would have least got your money back?
Agree, these things are expensive!
My experience is opposite, S1 was garbage S2 been great BUT recently bottom grip started peeling, new bottom chassis required at £60.
Can buy a brand new controller on eBay for £100.
Have to say, I do really like the S2 though.
I get where your coming from not wanting to buy warranty, but you should be thinking about it the opposite way man, the more expensive something is , should be more reason to insure it, like u don’t get a 100k car and not get full coverage on it ya know? I just got a series 2 and I paid $20 more for 3 YEARS coverage, I had my series 1 controller 2 years with no issues and only cashed in on the warranty because I wasn’t using it anymore and figured I could use the $200. Lol. Buy the warranty and u can literally get ur money back minus the warranty cost 3 years down the road even if u don’t want to replace it.
I stand by my statement from a year ago. The razed tournament and I’m assuming the ultimate are the best controllers. I’ve had mine for a year. And this is a year of hard use on Fortnite which is known to destroy controllers and the only thing wrong with it is the left thumbstick is wearing down. And it’s still not bad because the thumbstick were created so thick. I genuinely stand by this controller.
I 100% agree but bought my second wolverine and the right joy stick felt was way loose and delayed so I though I'd switch. :(
I'm disappointed no one has utilized lidar sensors to calculate the position of a joy stick instead of using the good old direct contact method. There are keyboards that have moved to laser triggers, the mechanical click just being there for feel. So they could do the same thing with controller joysticks. Just a bit more math and will probably cost more. But I think it would be a good add for an almost 200 dollar controller. Imagine if stick drift can be fixed by either swapping out a joystick insert, cleaning the joystick and the socket, or recalibration the lasers.
12:24 you can use middle mouse click scrolling to crate a smooth animation for the channel members
Really love your content and the brutal honesty it brings. Need more of this in the tech space!
I hope to inspire more of this in the tech space as I grow! I enjoy nothing more than a reviewer who's priority is being up front with their audience. I've been seeing more of it gradually with smaller channels and I hope this trend continues
I was going to buy the Elite Series 2 Controller, but you convinced me otherwise so I went digging into reviews and found your Wolverine Tournament edition review. And let me tell you I'm not disappointed! Thank you brotha!
I just wish they made one that was *exactly* like the stock controller except for the paddles. That way, there would be less stuff that would go wrong. (And stock Xbox controllers have been very reliable for me.)
Sincerely, a big fool who just bought a new Elite Series 2 because my 3-year-old one failed with its bumper. It's hard to go back once you get used to the bumpers and customisation (shift stuff).
Those adjustable tension thumbstick modules were a mistake, not only do they make the modules less reliable and more prone to drift, but they increase the amount of slop in the sticks (the mechanical deadzone) because of the increased amount of moving parts. You can really feel it in comparison to the new Series X controllers that have slightly better recentering force on the sticks than the old ones. I think I used my Elite S2 like, 3-4 times? Then it went straight back in the case and I went back to using my Elite S1, entirely because of the sticks.
You can also add the fact that most controllers doesn't have mechanical switches for buttons but insist on membranes which fail way too earlier. My 45€ Hori Octa seen a lot of abuse on Streets of Rage 4 and the buttons feel still great. If a 45€ keyboard can afford 80 high quality mechanical switches, any stock controller should also come with mechanical switches too.
In Europe we don't have any stick drift problems: the minimum warranty is 2 years (by law); if the product breaks under warranty and is returned, the 2 years start again.
I've been using the same controller (Elite Series I) for 4½ years.
The warranties are better, just you guys till have Stick drift issues lol. A warranty doesn't fix a bad product, it just makes it easier to replace
bought the series 2 after basically seeing every controller has qc issues. it was 140 and now has the 1 year warranty, only took a week playing halo infinite on my pc to get the stick drift lol.. keep up the vids man. Still can return it but I dunno anymore. If you haven't already you should do a tier list of best if money isn't a factor and best for the money of your opinion.
Honestly is key for a tech reviewer. You got my support 100% Cuda
Glad I found you're channel when I got sick with the elite, encouraged me to get the wolverine tournament
i had the all white elite series one controller and it worked perfectly for 2 years. Then I used a warranty to get the series 2 when it dropped and it was a terrible mistake.
So, ExtremeRate released a faceplate for the stock Series X controller that has the rubberization and precision rings even down to the pattern, similar to the ES2.
I'm going to do a build. I'm fucking pumped.
He's right tho, 4 months in and both my bumpers stoped working, got it sent to get fixed and not even a month in and the left analog starts drifting like crazy. It sucks that these things happen because i stoped using all my other controllers as soon as i bought it.
i really enjoy the rants, man. I get really annoyed by reviewers that get the new package and never go back to product months later or do teardowns (i know they have a LOT of things to review so they can't always). So all the viewer / consumer is left with is a really nice controller or gadget or widget that is fresh out of the box and of course it's really nice day one. Car reviewers fall into that same category for me. yeah it drove great on the test loop, cool. How does it do when it's -20 out? does it creak all the damn time? does the bluetooth take forever to connect?
So many people on these platforms end up just being QVC Salesmen and it's gross. Thanks for being You.
I'll shut up
Please never stop!! ❤❤👍👍
(ps. I bought an additional Elite series 2 Core next to my original S2 also.... no bad experience yet but they definitely suckered me in again too.... 🙄)
2:58 exact same, not just in terms of reliability. No gyro aim in the new gen for no reason
Also very true! Thanks for pointing that out, I forgot about it
What’s gyro aim
@@JA-be7me 5:17 on this video should clear it up th-cam.com/video/binPB4YbWmM/w-d-xo.html
If the intro doesn't traumatize you first
I just started watching you and now I feel like I can make better decisions when buying controllers
I would love for you to do a review of the Azeron Cyborg. I'm on the fence about it.
I recently ordered one. Production is very slow. Mine is not expected to ship until April.
@@sallydrum7156 Awesome, I hope you enjoy it when it finally arrives.
This country and the world needs more honest content like this. Companies and content creators have babied the public for too long and now many people can not handle the truth. You channel is a breath of fresh air, stay true to your self and keep the honesty flowing.
On another note would you be interested in reviewing the Victrix Gambit? I think most of the reviews out right now are very surface level and I am not sure I trust them. Just a thought, thanks for the great content.
This video reminds of my my 360 wireless headset I had once that had a 90 day warranty. Had one it worked for actually a decent amount of time but when it replaced it with a new one it died in like 100 days.
Called Microsoft and originally they denied the claim but after persistence on the phone they escalated it and I got someone who could get me a new one. The person even told me on the phone the cause was actually the charger they sent with it. The guy said he would send a different charger in the mail with a new headset and it survived over 5 years until the 360 became obsolete.
If I recall correctly they never did change the default charger sent with those headsets so only those who called in got got their value back on them.
You’re literally making some of the best content on TH-cam with wii music in the background. I love this timeline.
Nice rant. Could have been condensed to 2 mins.
The whole time I was thinking "Well, what controller DO you recommend, that lasts longer?"
Bro, this is the first video I have seen from you and I never have related to a TH-camr more in my Life. I absolutely Love any Human being that is as real as You. You are now my main source for Reviews etc... For gaming. You have no filter and don't give A F_
I appreciate that, thanks man!
There also could be that Microsoft has realized both these “Elite” controllers have had terrible launches and to this day have many quality control issues. It might be the case they’re done with these controllers and don’t want to make another one to avoid another lawsuit after what happened with the series 2. That being said, if they make a series 3 they really need to work out the durability issues as their main priority.
I’m thinking, maybe they can just tune the controller to have the extreme tension on the right thumb stick, change the thumb sticks to something more reliable, and change the triggers to only have a racer and smart trigger. The ability to switch between a 50% and nearly 1% trigger stop. The latter being clicky as we love mouse click triggers. The paddles are fine, better than the first one since they aren’t sensitive and are smaller than the first one. Keep the profiles at 3 and keep the accessories feature. That being said, it’s hard to compete when Razer has those Wolverine controllers, the PowerA controllers are bang for your buck, and Extremrate allows you to make your own pro controller with their parts. (It’s not easy considering some require you to solder some stuff on and that’s always a hassle.) At the end of the day, the Elite controllers are truly the case of hit or miss. Mostly being miss as the things are breaking down on many people rapidly. It’s hard to say if a Elite 3 will happen.
The triggers are bad on these controllers. They feel so mushy. I wish we could get something that feels quick, responsive, and more durable.
@@nerychristian it’s too bad companies like SCUF can’t release the trigger set they use for their new instinct Pro because those feel like mouse clicks.
Not a fan-boy by any means, but I genuinely feel bad for anyone that's had issues with the elite series 2 controller. I got one as a gift around December 2019, and I haven't had any issues with it other than me dropping it. Messing one of the paddles up and now it'll need a hot glue fix so it clicks easier
You right been watching you controller reviews for a min now and I'm up on game with controllers now
After a year and a half-ish my elite series 2 has finally reached its last legs. Ordered a v2 chroma and cant wait for it to get here.
I don't understand why there is no company that makes controllers with magnetic potentiometers. There is no direct contact so there is absolutely no way they develop drift from the pads grinding away. The dreamcast controller and sixaxis controller had a stick that used magnetism instead of resistive pads and they are extremely resistant to drift.
I keep saying this on this channel, but I brought an elite series 2, off the back of a review online. After 3 months I got stick drift and after 5 months the LB button started to get unreliable. I went online to try to find out why and found this channel, got the Razor Wolverine tournament edition and can honestly say it was the best controller I ever used. Started to get slight stick drift after 14 months (after many hours of play). That controller was recommended by this channel. Shame the wolverine TE looks crap, otherwise I would have brought it in a flash. Currently using a Vitrix Gambit and so far, so good.
Jesus Christ your rant is my rant every since I purchased the series 1. After the series 2 I'll be looking for a better 1 but shit to be quiet honest finding a good wireless controller is fucking maddening! I wanna pull my hair out just thinking about it sometimes.
Oh I make sure to thoroughly research any product especially tech purchases. To make my decisions on what to buy. Its why I love your channel so much I dont have to dig through BS to get to the truth about a product. I just stay subd to your channel. 🙂
Bro i thank you for your honesty, this is the way to be in life!!!
Now i have a great RESPECT for you!!!
I use the elite s2 daily, have dropped it with the pieces exploding and haven’t had an issue yet 🤞🏼🤞🏼but that’s why I spent the $20 extra on the warranty. Extra 3 years on the warranty.
Thank you for your great reviews! Would you mind reviewing the Victrix Gambit controller as well?
I get actually excited when I see this controller on the channel cuz Microsoft needs to hear it. Whether small or big creator.
All 3 of my Elites straight out the box in 2022:
1. A and Y buttons dont respond to all presses
2. Moving the sticks while theyre clicked in makes them grind against internal components (LMAO)
3. Flicking the sticks results in input being sent in the opposite direction
Not a controller for pros because the thing was broken before R&D packed up their sketchbooks for the day
Cuda, i know you are reading comments, please don't ignore this. First i want to say, Great video as always. Now, from watching your video on the Razer Wolverine Ultimate, I've decided to buy one for myself and let me tell, you, it was a blast, WAS, because after 5 just 5 months of using it, it just died on me, for no reason whatsoever. I've been taking care of it, always cleaning it up, always putting it back in its case after using, using it only with it's original cable etc. and it just died on me. Please Cuda, is there a way to somehow contact you, maybe talk a bit about this, maybe there is a ways to fix it, because i can't throw it away, i just can't. Thank you so much, i hope you read this...
I’ve been watching your videos for a few months and really enjoy how your really honest with your reviews! I heard about the Victrix Gambit Xbox controller lately and wanted to know your opinion on it. Could you do a video reviewing it? Keep up the good work
For this type of videos it is because I follow you, you are completely honest I really like your videos keep it up men :')
Probably the BEST honest video I have seen!
Agree with everything said!
An options video would be great, what controller should we buy?
Always trust a HONEST REVIEW!
Whilst I do love my controller it was your videos that helped me decide. Weighed out options the Razer Wolverine V2C was the one I got, but I know it will fail eventually. Out of all the crap at least it’s good crap. Keep up the great vids!
Same here wolverine best I ever had. Just bought elite 2 yesterday and my turtle beach is hands down way better. Feels a bit cheap but your not thinking about that when cracking skulls on infinite.
I must’ve got lucky. I love my elite series 2 man. Have had no problems at all. Plus the bestbuy warranty is so worth it
Can you do the Wolverine te vs the v2 chroma please? I’m still deciding which one I should get (Loving the content my guy keep giving out honest content so we can rely on someone)
If I ever think about buying a Microsoft controller again im watching this guy and not anyone else becaues I know he will give me the good the bad and the ugly keep it up
Just got a series 2 from Costco with their credit card. Should be a free replacement no questions asked. Will update here once I get it in the mail. FYI mostly play fps
The McFly jacket is absolutely fucking sick bro
My 2x spectra infinitys with warranty swaps is still going strong. No mic buzz with proper stereo headset. When one drifted i sent it off. Used the other. It came back a new one. The pad feels great. £65 for pro controller for two years :D until i find eventually an even better cheaper option haha
this dude needs 3 million subs right meow !! i had one it hardly even last like 8 months maybe i like the controller but it fell apart completely bumpers wouldn't work
Bruh! You’re the most honest reviewer ever 😂 we need more like you 🤘🏼😎
Love your vids man. Can you please do a review on the xim nexus controller when it releases? I think it has the potential to be the best controller ever honestly
Did you know that all Xbox controllers after the 360 era have a fatal flaw? I don't see anyone talking about it. If you press one of the face buttons down and wiggle your finger just a little, it will fire the button like a turbo function. This is makes it so that "double presses" happen extremely often, ending up with buttons being pressed when you didn't want them to.
Say it with your chest! Bro you're the best reviewer, don't sell out. Keep doing what you're doing!
i have an elite 2 and play warzone almost daily. My controller has held up very nicely you just have to know how to take care of it. Your video on keeping stick drift at bay is very good. using the paddles to replace stick clicks is key. You also mentioned dust being a big problem which is true luckily pure isopropyl alcohol will fix about any button issue. My bumpers have slowly quit working 3 times over the year but i just open the controller apply a small bit of alcohol to the button and it fixes it like magic back to 100% working order. Regular people dont know these tricks and just write a bad review and buy another pricey controller.
While I do understand what you're saying and all of these methods do actually work to counteract issues, the problem isn't "just knowing how to take care of it." Why should I have to disassemble and fix a $180 Controller period? It shouldn't require that much on the consumers end for a product to be usable. Especially something like a pricey pro Controller
@@vCuda you are right. The issue stems from the shitty components used. I dont know much about button technology but i agree the fact ive had to maintain my controller via my own research is annoying. Microsoft may very well design them to break intentionally.
was hoping at the end you would use the "twist his DI*K" video lol. You are enjoyable to watch when i just want to hear the most honest review of anything. I appreciate the no holds bar approach to all you do. I have been literally watching reviews for the last 2 weeks on every controller out there and haven't been able to settle on what i want. I have scuf, Battle Beaver, Extreme rate, and elite series 2. Nothing ever meets the expectations or needs of us as consumer gamers. At times its basically settling for something "good enough".
First time watching your videos! Really like your energy !
Bought a used Elite 1 - had drift. Bought a second used Elite 1 - works fine to this day (going on two years). Also bought a used Elite 2 last year - left bumper is b0rked.
60 bucks for a used controller was a bit of a hit and miss. Can't see me ever paying retail for a new Elite, though.
SHESHH. Most honest controller reviewer out here. Earned yourself a sub boi 😛
I'm using this dualshock4 for 7years and still act normal as new. Bought one more for a sub but hasn't touched it cuz first one nvr broken. Just only setback is that u gotta charge every time u play but still great considering how old this controller is.
Keep doing what your doing!! It’s nice to have an honest source!! As always take care of yourself first. Keep killing it!
Will you ever do a review on the Victrix Gambit xbox remote, been planning on getting it, but obviously you're a reliable dude, so I would want to know what your thoughts would be on it
I bought an Elite after watching countless positive reviews. My experience matched their review FOR THE FIRST WEEK. Then it was all downhill. These guys review it by using it for a few matches and then record the review.
Adjustable tension isn't the problem try mapping LS and RS click to a button or shift button feature. Has worked wonders for mine
Cuda make a Victrix Gambit controller Review please, waiting for your honest opinion on that one to buy it!
Any chance in your doing a recon rant?? I just started using the controller I find it decent would love to see what u think 🤔
Rant is 1000000000000% warranted. It's paddles design and having trigger stops was the only revolutionary thing for me, but even they are pointless if the sticks are garbage.
Had 3, and returned the last.
The Victrix is the controller that has been the most refreshing for me to use in a long while. It's probably the opposite of the Elite in the respect that it performs really well, but its the materials that its made with that makes it feel cheap. It's not that its feels cheap like it would break, you can just tell they used standard materials to help bring the price point down. Ergonomically it feels great in the hand and the back paddles/buttons function feels the best outside of how the elite does it. The trigger width and trigger stops are the other big pluses to this controller.
It's not without its flaws, the triggers stops first setting can feel too sensitive. You can use the standard sticks, but using Kontrolfreaks on it is a must, but i use those on all my controllers anyway.
Most of the negative comments I've only found focus on how it feels cheap or it feels to light. Basically all to do with cosmetic crap that means nothing if all you want is to do is consistently destroy people in FPS games. I'll take performance over fancy RGB lighting any day.
I emplore people to give the Victrix a shot for $100 makes it a steal. The more attention it gets the more reason Victrix has to keep improving on it. They got it right from the inside out and how it performs, where others like MS and Razer seem to focus on the premium feel of the outer shell over the internals and how it functions.
I dropped my first series 2 controller a few times then some of the paddles started to not work that well, so I got it refunded then got a new one. Since I learned from my past mistakes, I treated that one like a king and it 2 paddles still broke (had to press extra hard for them to register) after 10 months. annoyed me a lot.
I'm on number 2 in less than 2 years paired with 4 other pro controllers now my warranty up and I'm stuck with this bs
Underrated channel. Definitely enjoy your content.
Huh. Me and my girl have sat on this controller, (series 2 ) ans no stick drift ,no bumper fails ,no cracks ,everything feels smooth af ,my old controllers usually starts feeling flimsy ,after a while
I love this video (as I'm putting back together a Dual Sense w/a broken trigger spring.... ) .5 cent part... could have beefed this shit up a bit... ya know, for the 70 dollar price tag.,,, but the haptic feedback is sooo nice, and the upgraded thumbsticks...... cough cough, the same sensors they've used since dual shock 3... cough cough... same sensors that all xbox controllers use.. cough... cough.. shit i'm getting sick i think.. damn truth keeps making my throat itch. lol. keep up the good work man!
You should review the nacon revolution unlimited pro controller, I think they have a different thumbstick module, I've been using it for a year plus and I have no stick drift at 0 deadzone. It might have something to do with the low stick tension which also feels amazing.
Love the brutal honestly, I'm not discovering your content, easy subscribed~
Thanks for recommending the Razer wolverine V2 Chroma. It's literally the best controller I have used and I have gotten two of my friends to replace their elite controllers with Wolverines.
I hate Microsoft and the elite series 2 my RB button went out 2 weeks in. 🤦♂️ I've had my wolverine for 2 months and not had a single problem
I just got the regular Wolverine V2 and I really like the controller and I am thinking about getting the V2 Chroma so I can go a little bit harder in Halo and COD games.
Off topic, but I bought the Wolverine Ultimate after watching your many videos on it and doing more of my own research on it and despite a minor amount of right stick drift, I love the controller, thanks for the honest reviews, man!
I'm glad it's working for you man! The Wolverine is a fine device
Watching this right after both of my bumpers are either double clicking or unresponsive alongside the left analog stick up/down sensor decides to shit itself
Love your videos bro! Brutal honesty is rare
7:13 you're one of the few that actually emphasizes this problem. Juan Bagnell has been beating this same drum for phone reviews, and Michael the Maven for cameras.
It's a genuine issue! It's very selfish of reviewers to make positive reviews just to be on a companies good side for future product endorsements. It isn't right
vCuda, love watching your videos! Keep it up bro!! There should be more TH-camrs like you!! Tbh I got the Scuf Instinct Pro! Hopefully this controller doesn't have problems down the road!
My series 1and 2 works still works perfectly. No drift or damage showing yet
Question, what if the elite series 3 has a whole new joystick mechanic that's completely different from every other controller? Like magnetic joystick or something just out of no where? And they guarantee 100% stick drift free. Worth every penny?
It would be, but again, why would Microsoft feel obligated to do that? It's not like reviewers would care that much, they just look at surface level features most the time anyways. Especially the bigger ones who get sent Microsoft products
At the end of the day, there's no reason for them to reinforce a product that people will love regardless of how reliable it is. So keeping it unreliable just guarantees more sales
@@vCuda yea you're right surface level is what got me to buy the series 2 in the first place. I should have gotten a wolverine.
This was awesome bro! Thanks for the rant.
The xim nexu just released, would love to see a review of that controller
Bit the bullet and bought a Series 2 about a year ago. Within 6 months both bumpers failed so sometimes it would register one normal click sometimes it wouldn't register anything at all sometimes it would register two clicks so I literally couldn't play cod or fortnite at all. Got my warranty replacement and within HALF THE TIME the left stick just simply stopped working. It clicked and moved completely fine but in the games, sometimes I would move forward normally sometimes I wouldn't move at all lol so it's literally unusable I can't move half the time it's like how tf does that even happen? Checked scuf's wesbite and customized a controller...$250+ yeah smfd lmao seriously. Now I'm forcing myself to learn kb&m cuz these controllers are such a scam. $180 and they're guaranteed to break no matter how good you take care of them yet people keep buying them.
Hey vcuda how you doing? I was wonder if you were going to review the new collective minds pro battle bundle?
@vCuda can you review the Gulikit King Kong Pro 2 to see if they are durable? Only thing missing is back paddles / buttons. I was thinking with a controller adapter maybe it could be a reliable controller for Xbox. I will be waiting for a potential King Kong Pro 3 with back buttons though
I've had both generations. Rubber came off the first one but it pretty much worked, 2nd one is getting Bumper issues. Was pissed it only came with 3 program channels too.. This is a forced restriction in my view, nothing stopping them having hundreds.
I went with the Wolverine V2 chroma because of you ! Thanks for your honesty !