@@evaramsey1736your goal in a debate is to present opposing arguments, which was done loudly and sloppily in most cases here. This is a “Middle Ground” debate. Present your opposing arguments and work together to find a commonality. This was not done, and audience participation often just fueled harassment and provocation.
That's a huge thing. People seriously need to learn statistics and stop bringing isolated cases into debates. When we discuss societal issues we're doing so because multiple people have experienced similar issues and are wanting to make a change, not because 1 single person had an issue.
This is spot on analysis. In fact, having a personal connection naturally makes you subjective and objectivity is much more helpful when trying to find the middle ground. Emotions were certainly getting the best of people here.
Yeah that abortion discussion for the democrats side was horrible. They had a literal lawyer with facts and statistics to argue it well and they chose to send the woman who underwent an abortion to speak solely on emotion.
Editor's tip: In the future, please highlight the SAN FACT CHECK in red when what the person says is FALSE, and highlight it in green when what the person says is TRUE. PLEASE! 🙏
I don't think that would really work as these claims are not always 100% true or false. Especially when it comes to statistics somebody may be technically correct but not taking into account sample size or other counter points of the study.
I think Jubilee Middle Ground does a great job of exposing an inconvenient truth: There are a lot of people in this country who are more interested in looking for arguments than they are in looking for solutions to problems.
too I think if they were looking for a middle ground they would start with something they think the other side would agree on and with something they think they can win on.
Because there is a fallacy that a middle ground means thats where the correct answers are. Its called the argument to moderation fallacy. Sometimes one side is CORRECT and the other is WRONG. Not everything is a pretty unnuanced fairy tale like you want it to be where we can sing kumbuya at the end
If you see yourself as a VICTIM your a DEMOCRAT. If you see yourself as someone who can OVERCOME anything CHALLENGING, if you BELIEVE in YOURSELF, if you WORK HARD your a REPUBLICAN. cool ... I learned a lot.
@@JoeBoxerNo1 Jubilee is based in California. Californian Republicans and Democrats are the most insufferable people ever. California Republicans are socially liberal and fiscally conservative (like Caitlyn Jenner, Blaire White, George Santos, Douglas Murray, and Dave Rubin). They vote for Republican because they want low taxes, deregulation, and unconditional support for Israel. Most Republicans in other parts of the country don't view them as real conservatives. California Democrats care more about social liberalism than working-class issues. They get their politics from ContraPoints, Philosophy Tube, Vaush, Destiny, Jessie Gender, and Hasan. They would be more sucessful politically if they promoted well-known social democrats like FDR, Clement Attlee, Tommy Douglas, Olof Palme, Francois Mitterand, and George Orwell. If you want to see relatively normal Republicans and Democrats, go to the Upper Midwest and the Rust Belt. These states are very working-class and they tend to be swing states instead of red or blue states. Democrats should emulate FDR and JFK, while Republicans should emulate Teddy Roosevelt and Dwight Eisenhower.
@@carloslozada84 Not really unless the approved budget includes a pay raise for them lol. Also I’m not opposed to public office positions getting a raise if they actually earn one. Especially if it means taxing the wealthy more.
@@Thomas-zt7dm The Association of Certified Fraud Examiners (ACFE), estimates that governments globally lose around 5% of annual revenues to fraud, waste, and abuse. If applied to the U.S. federal budget, which exceeds $6 trillion, I believe it would be better to solve this issue first instead of rising the taxes.
*_“John Steinbeck once said that socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”_*
The two young boys debating or having discussions about economics are actually the best part here, you can see in their eyes they wanted to listen and learn more from each other not trying to interrupt when either of them is speaking
Surface level wise yes but parker is always such a little prick when it comes to this stuff and you can see what he thought about it on his shitty little Twitter account
I love the fact that the Gen-Z kids at the beginning were probably the most respectful out of the entire group of people. And the majority are fully-maturated adults.
If you see yourself as a VICTIM your a DEMOCRAT. If you see yourself as someone who can OVERCOME anything CHALLENGING, if you BELIEVE in YOURSELF, if you WORK HARD your a REPUBLICAN. cool ... I learned a lot.
parker was really rude on a previous video, and I didnt agree with him on a previous video, but i really loved how respectful he was this video, it was like night and day.
@@hesaidWHAT255i agree i think he has been rude in the past, but unfortunately many politicians are this way. i think hes an incredibly intelligent kid. a lot of potential.
It was really funny seeing how much Parker channeled Charlie Kirk in the first debate (very effectively) after acting he totally destroyed him in the surrounded video
@@jamespashley8646blossom was obnoxious, yet she was valid. How can a cis properly debate a trans. I agree with Jaylen, yet he had no statistics. Just feelings. There was absolutely no shot he was going to get anywhere on the topic
his entire life has been tiktok debatres where he doesnt let anyone talk and just raises his voice over people. the other one probably has a 9-5 and is more affected by the economy lol
@@CurlyBoyChuck I totally agree. And everyone in the comments is criticising Blossom but I think she had a lot of valid points. I think people had already made their minds up about her from previous videos, but I thought she came across well in this debate.
Quite simply it's because most of the Republicans don't believe transgrenderism is a real valid thing. So they picked someone that represents their pov best
@@seanjohnson8910 People are allowed to be different and it's ok to be different from each other, including what we consider is our gender identity. Trans people are trans they are not cis, if you can't see that or understand that then you should open your eyes because everyone else can see.
Most of these people are so disrespectful. This is what society has become. All talking, barely any listening. No understanding, only alienation from each other and a broken society.
this is why i dislike jubilee so much. they always pick the most out of hand people to do these videos for views instead of creating a space for anything meaningful. if everyone’s on edge of course they’re gonna fight each other like this.
All political discussions involve disruptions. If you were looking for a peaceful robotic controlled debate with no interruptions at all, then this is not the place for you, sorry. Hope, I did not say anything to offend you. Have a great day.
Because this is what our ruling class wants now. If we are arguing about things that truly don’t matter, they can keep imposing “rules for thee and not for me.”
As a staunch conservative, yeah. I'm very frustrated when people do that on either side, which is one of the reasons I can't stand Parker in other media I've seen him in. Imagine how much we could get done if we spoke slowly and rationally, and listened to what the other people were saying!
Bc it is. There is no argument on that. Blaire white has spoken about it multiple times, nd has used it to uplift millions of people. If YOU see mental illness as a negative thing instead of something countless people go through in many ways, you need to do some reevaluation. Yes it is something that needs to be healed, but healed does not always mean detransitioning. If you pretend the issue isn't there you aren't helping any community. You're only promoting more room for mental illness to be ignored.
Blossom coming into the abortion debate to say she disagrees because they’re not including pregnant trans people 🤦🏼♂️. Girl this topic ain’t about you, sit down.
This is totally from my experience: Democrats: vote based on data and what theyve seen news articles and whatnot Republicans: based on experience and what they have seen
"experience" means literally nothing dude you can live a great life under an unjust system simply because you have access to resource, macroeconomics and foreign policy isn't something you gain expertise on with shallow headcannon understanding
@@x1zn998Nah he means Dems vote based on what the news says. Example: -News says Biden kept gas low and therefore the democratic candidate who will copy his policies is the best choice. Dems see this and follow exactly what the news said. -Republicans go to gas station and see gas prices have grown by comparing current prices with records they had before the current sitting president. Thus they realize Biden didn’t keep gas low but let its price go uncontrolled so they vote for the candidate who will bring it back down.
this had so much potential. you need to vet each person and make sure they are intellectuals who actually know how to have a proper argument/debate. Not just get emotional
People ask to be on the show, which is why you see the same people over and over again. They can't keep paying Destiny, Ben Shapiro, and Charlie Kirk to be on the show 🤣🤣
Both sides regurgitated crap talking heads on the media bring up everyday. Pick up a book and learn the real statistics and facts before picking up the pitchforks.
Respectfully, I see this kind of comment in every middle ground video. No matter who is sitting there, emotions will show because we are humans. You could be the most “evolved” human but when you’re getting into discussions about things you’re passionate about, emotions will show. I think the problem is that we as an audience seem to have a problem listening to opposing arguments and seeing real discussions take place rather than curated ones. I personally don’t want a robotic conversation and I don’t want an overly emotional discussion either. But natural emotions will arise and I don’t see the issue. Real life is nuanced and upsetting 🤷🏾♀️
@@ekg891 im not shaming them for making money off of it, if they can they should (and they are), im jus pointing out how they seem to create these "debates" that are really just fighting matches of supposed "normal Americans" when in reality, most of these people are influencers
Connie & Xaviaer 💙❤ Only one statement comes to mind as I am listening to their middle ground debate. "Two things could be true." Which, in this case.. they absolutely are 💯
Yes, I loved their debate. Actively hearing each other out and giving each other room to to state their claims without being bf disrespectful or disregarding their experiences.
I'm a conservative, full disclosure. Sheila was very annoying. "I'm speaking" yet 10 seconds into him talking & throughout the ENTIRE time he spoke she interrupted 🤦🏼♀️
Look at what she said. Yes, she was angry - but because she was confronted with victim-blaming for being constantly and brutally attacked because of the simple fact of being jewish (violating every international law, in every possible way and and in genocidal intend, by the way) and than being critisized for the way you defend. I cannot belief how the moderator and the audience could tolerate Evan talking in such a racist way without getting mad. This should be absolutelys inaccaptable.
@julesharper7209 that does not change the fact that she told the guy (basically screamed at him) to stop interrupting since she was talking (and he stopped), yet, everytime the guy and the latina girl spoke, she kept on interrupting
I could not believe that I heard that argument from a real person. I thought it was essentially a meme. She might as well have said that she expected to become a professional athlete bc her statistical chances of becoming rich and being a professional athlete are about the same.
She's absolutely brain dead. She said if she gets taxed higher she'd rather not be rich anymore... like what? You're still rich after taxation and not in poverty... would she like to go back to poverty because of taxation?!?
Sheila and Evan debate reminds me of the saying "confidence is silent, Insecurity is loud." nah because having several people trying to stop you from cutting off others multiple times and yet you're still yapping is crazy to me 😭
Respect for parker and chandler having one of the better debate’s on this channel as they were going fact for fact within in the same topic while not letting their emotions influence their words or actions!
Parker easily dismantled clueless Chandler who thinks capitalist Kamala is a marxist but has no idea what marxism is. Chandler also thinks Biden caused global inflation? 😂😂
Respect for parker and chandler having one of the better debate’s on this channel as they were going fact for fact within in the same topic while not letting their emotions influence their words or actions! wanna know more about XAI720T too bro
Dean n Parker carry themselves so well know so much about each candidate, policies, and have done the research with liable sources and know how to debate it’s so refreshing when they go up
@@vincentfrye8056 I'm glad this episode showed how people may disagree with their own parties, but worried when both parties wanted to follow cult like behavior and choose a side just to oppose. Like really?
Honestly, kind of just seems like we're only really divided on that one topic... Seems like in every other topic both sides were able to reach a middle ground
It’s even scarier that it’s really over nothing and misinformation we essentially all want the same things we are just being divided and confused from outside sources once we both realize that we will come together but before then I am afraid there will be bloodshed
I’m Australian I personally know somebody who transitioned as a minor who has come out and stated that they regret transitioning because they didn’t understand the repercussions and they weren’t properly educated and they were not mentally capable of making that decision for themselves. 1000% children should not be allowed to transition until they are an adult.
The fact that the Republicans had literally TWO transwomen on their panel and didn't choose EITHER to debate the topic regarding trans issues is absolutely mind boggling 🤣🤣 lol
Sheila: IM NOT DONE DONT INTERRUPT ME! Evan: *waits* Evan starts making his arguments Sheila: interrupts Evan. Girl if you ask someone to not interrupt you then don’t interrupt the other person when they speak!
I think Sheila was clearly just very frustrated and took it out in angry ways. As someone who comes from an Israeli family, it’s extremely frustrating discussing the topic with people who have zero stakes in the actual outcome, but still think they know what is the proper solution after just starting to learn about it a few years ago As a progressive, this is unfortunately a topic that has massively removed me from my peers simply because I think the majority of them could not care less about the safety of Israelis and want to paint them as the mustache twirling villain
Something odd I saw when watching is during the Evan vs Sheila section at 43:24, Sheila gets upset at Evan for interrupting her but then as Evan begins to talk she constantly interrupts him.
Lots of anger and no love. The idea of being divided red and blue is exactly why there was really no middle ground. It was like watching two gangs argue over turf.
Should they ALL wear the same color? The point is to create a space where people can discuss their differences. What people did with that opportunity is up to them. There were some clear hidden agendas & I can guarantee you people were asked to come back for this episode because of their controversial comments & debate styles.
@@sha1841 the point is that when they did discuss things they actually didn’t for the most part try to find middle ground because they were playing teams. You have to look past the teams in order to hear someone out. They looked more interested in debating well for the team than finding any middle ground.
They built Sheila up to be some political and debating genius when all she did was interrupt and talk over Evan, even though Evan gave her COMPLETE SILENCE and respect whilst she was speaking. If you cant respect the most basic rules of debating, then you shouldn't be given the platform.
If you see yourself as a VICTIM your a DEMOCRAT. If you see yourself as someone who can OVERCOME anything CHALLENGING, if you BELIEVE in YOURSELF, if you WORK HARD your a REPUBLICAN. cool ... I learned a lot.
She probably wasn't raised by her birth mother. I can imagine that may have e been traumatizing for her so she probably gave the child up for adoption, so this is how the child (now adult) has processed this
I got the impression she was adopted. Her birth mother couldn’t take care of her as a rape victim. So she was adopted into a Christian household who fought to keep her
You don't know anything about the circumstances and just chose to assume the worst. It's like you seriously just got offended over something that potentially could have happened involving the mother. Do you believe all claims of rape? Tara Reid claimed Joe Biden assaulted her with his finger but I don't see Democrats believing her for example.
@@Jaaay36 This, 100% this. Nearly ever statement that she said was 100% correct and she was completely knocking Evan off his feet. It went off topic but its clear that her experience compared to him is night and day.
Why doesn’t Jubilee run these videos like a presidential/vice presidential debate? 1. First person to speak gets 1 minute uninterrupted 2. Second person gets 1 minute to respond uninterrupted 3. First person is given the option to respond If someone interrupts more than two times than they have to go back to their chair and the next person waiting to debate can come up to the chair. I know they must want level of some tension and drama in the videos, but sometimes you can’t even hear what people are saying (like that Destiny episode)
Exactly. Jubilee has lost its mind. I’m here for informative debates, not shouting and cheering matches. I guess it’s all about the clicks now for Jubilee. Never mind delivering quality or excellence.
Blossom vs Jaylen was the most mind numbing conversation and I'm so disappointed they picked some guy with a pink frohawk instead of THE LITERAL TRANSGENDER MEDICAL STUDENTS.
I was so sad when Jazmen Jafar on the Democrat side gave up her spot, she is a very powerful debater on feminist issues, and you can find several debates of hers online. As for why the conservatives didn't choose the trans person, you already know why.
@ I think that proudly saying you support an economic model that has failed every time it has been tried is pretty goofy. It’s an ideology supported by people who are ignorant of history or are too young to understand how the world works or don’t pay taxes so have no stake in the economy other than to take handouts.
that just proves the point of the democrats. they couldn't give the floor to someone who was directly affected by the topic at hand. they couldn't even nominate a woman who was pro-life. they just don't give the floor to anyone they don't like, even when that person agrees with them. the only person they gave the floor to was the Zionist and I believe they only accepted her because they knew she would talk about the atrocities as a one sided issue. and the republicans think EVERYTHING is one sided.
I wouldn't necessarily say "cut", but seeing how the what current taxes are going towards it's better than what currently have, how do they not understand?
She sees social programs as more efficient means as meeting people’s needs. The Nordic countries do very well with their social programs the question if it would work in the us is another matter.
@@Greazzy_G Many people who struggle with food don't pay taxes. They actually get back more than they pay in and have a negative tax rate. How are you going to cut their taxes? You have to increase things like the child tax credits or expand EITC to help them, not necessarily cut taxes.
Im not a huge politics guy. But i found it odd how she put a threshold to what facilitates the term "genocide". As she said, Jews in Germany lost essentially 6 mil of their ethnic population. Which was a 60% diminish. Why would any other tragedy not be considered a genocide just because it didn't reach the 6 million threshold? That's wack. I would say the threshold to delegate the term genocide is relative to a populations' size internally. If a population of 1,000 lost 600, would we call it genocide, or would we call it a massacre because it doesn't reach the 6 million mark?
i really found her the most irritating of all, most on the red side when asked questions, they tip toe around it or counter argument to avoid answering.
Notice how her necklace also shows all of Palestine. Meaning she wants Israel to take over all of the occupied territory also. She is such a whiney wannabe victim 🙄
@@willestes3319Yes with the middle ground statement not the arguments or behavior lmao. Chronically onlinetard try not to be dishonest challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
I have to say I’m 40 minutes into this but Sheila came into this extremely aggressive and didn’t seem like someone who was looking to have a civil conversation. Didn’t like her on this whatsoever could be all much smarter with XAI720T and guys joining
@@tripthrasher3569these dudes suck, they copy popular comments and add that at the end. From what I searched it’s like a crypto scam? TH-cam’s gotta do something about these bots
Every single one of these that Ive tortured myself with that she has been on has been a disaster. She won't let the other person speak but will freak out if you try to interrupt her.
shelia couldn’t stay on topic, i understand she’s trying to share her story but she’s not even TRYING to listen to who she was debating nor the topic itself. it clearly asked what’s the US stance against the middle east, or whatever it was. and her response was “stop teaching kids hate” i was having a hard time understanding. evan gave a great answer in my opinion
Why is it that rebulicans have issues with abortion and are pro life... when there are living breathing children that have already been born being essayed and physically abused... i dont feeling the same energy....
Thats classic Israeli talking point defense tactics. The realities of the situation are so indefensible that you need to engage in racist demonization in order to try and justify the realities.
I was disappointed when she started doing that. She definitely had a lot of first hand knowledge on the subject, almost all of which was proven true per the fact checks. I agreed with what she was saying too, but when it wasn’t her turn and the interruptions wouldn’t stop, well, even I was ready for her to be quiet atp.
Because it’s her people. She’s Jewish and she has a personal touch to this issue. You’re only passionate about the things you love. The same way Ayoub was intense
@@Raderade1-pt3om you mean the one that even said they didn’t think they would be the best representative of the blue side and bowed out early to give it to someone else? Lmao ok. Shiela lost here just on her unhinged attitude and rudeness
sheila should NOT be invited to one of these again. incredibly terrible at debating “im speaking!” but when he wants to speak she interrupts him and ignores what hes saying. please get her off here.
This finger snapping and gasping is so lame and weird on both sides, especially when they do it to distract the other person, its just self defeating...
@@halohalo7218 Why clap? Just why? They clap just to show loyalty to their political side, if only one side is clapping what is there to clap about? Who benefits from you clapping? Its just childish nonsense, instead of nodding brainlessly when your side is talking try listening to both speakers its not that hard...
It's honestly aggravating because Sheila actually has the stronger argument and the facts are on her side. She just can't regulate her emotions because she is too personally invested.
sheila i just can’t, it’s one thing to have experience have passion and whatnot, that doesn’t mean you can be disrespectful tho by not letting other people interrupt you while you literally refuse to let other people you don’t agree with speak
@@coopsnz1 she is, higher taxes based on economic status will just motivate rich people to grab their companies and leave the country, which means less jobs for everyone, besides the fact that everyone that starts prospering economically will instantly be taxed based on how prosperous they are.
Why did you bring blossom back? She is so unhinged. She adds nothing productive to the conversasion and that last Jubliee episode she was on and debated Blaire showed her to be a generally nasty person
It would be easy to dispute the lack of transexual people just by a simple statistical population analysis. A single transexual person is an over representation.
lol no she doesn't mean THAT kind of trans woman... only wants to circle jerk with other trans women who agree with her. eyeroll. when is everyone going to just grow up? our country needs it.
blaire white is the worst to invite lol. she literally lied about trans women participating in competitive sports to get money, when said woman did NOT participate competitively.
@@Sweet-Leaf buddy, I saw him in other debates against Charlie Kirk and others like Ben. He kept using words that most don’t know to make them think Parker making sense “ yeah exactly!” and keep rapidly stupidly definitions which made no sense or related to economy. Had you not see that women said “let destroy USA and rebuild it in Marxism system!”
@@CHRISTisKING-b8f Gonna hit you with a wild idea here. Understand it if at all possible. Grasp it. Hold it tight. The statements SHE made have no bearing on the actual arguments HE made. It's okay to be confused, but you'll be better off if you use that confusion to drive you to learn something.
This group of conservatives have mastered picking the wrong person to represent their side on SO MANY topics. The air is probably so sore from them punching it.
@@Jessie.tager23 I doubt the outcome would have changed. These debates tend to go differently from what conservatives expect when you have people on equal footing arguing over specific issues rather than pundits using partisan hackery to argue in bad faith all of the time.
The black guy with the pink hair had no idea what he even believes in. They should have let the transgender conservative go. do you figure XAI720T ? great work by them!
Alissa is trans, a victim of receiving gender affirming care as a minor (child) is literally studying to become a psychiatrist (a medical doctor specializing in mental health) and they still chose Jaylen to represent them for being Gen Z, damn
I think they chose the one option out of the three that wasn’t trans because, well, he’s not trans. Not gonna say this as a qualifying statement for all conservatives but many of them do not support trans people as a whole, or generally have a bit of negative bias against them and likely rather would’ve had the gay guy talk than the trans women.
Because conservatives hate and deny the existence of trans people…they would rather have a gay guy on stage because they don’t wanna listen to a trans person speak 😭 it’s actually really sad
can we talk about Adam and Josh’s convo they felt very respectful to each other and Josh even apologized when he accidentally interrupted him. AND both of them listened to the audience’s opinions even if it wasn’t from their side
@@ThatTigr They literally didn't, y'all are literally proving the republican guy's statement that y'all are saying words that aren't backed by any evidence. The illegal settlements are also a part of the human rights violations case, and they still haven't reached the verdict yet.
started at 14! 9 years in the work force moved out of my family home at 16 had my own apartment and was able to buy a home at 20. To some that’s not a long time but considering that is 40% of my life I’d say that’s a long time!
Parker for president 2032 .. I'm a Republican and vote Republican for the last three elections. But if he was candidate, I'd probably switch to Democrat. I wish more Democrats thought this way. More progressively. Not putting Band-Aids on everything but actually fixing the problem.
I’d say a lot of them were FAIRLY chill, blossom was almost chill but then she went off the rails near the end. Plus raising your voice isn’t having a full on meltdown.
Sheila let her feelings run rampant and further created more disdain towards Isreal. I heard her try to say "you have one story" as if her story isn't also just one story. Her experience is hers alone and if she cannot realize that then she cannot speak for others.
Literally! She thinks she’s the important one in the predicament. Like no lady you’re just another person with just another perspective. You’re not important at all lmao
I’ve heard people from other countries say that Americans treat politics like sports and I totally see it now
Sports or a popularity contest 😮
It's true.
I had this thought the other day and I'm from uk. I wish uk politics was 10% as interesting as they are in the US
That's because we have let the government get way too big and controlling. Easy to get heated about our livelihood.
Well it's because you only have 2 players and you act like you have democracy…
now make 100 democrats vs 100 republicans sword fight
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Estrogen vs testosterone
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I’m so tired of this. Most of these people did not come to find a middle ground, they just came to one-up and bully.
exactly and trying to get clout, jubilee is milking this division like crazy
thats the point of a debate, it's all optics, your goal is to one up your opponent
These democratic voters make the most weird, disrespectful faces
@@evaramsey1736your goal in a debate is to present opposing arguments, which was done loudly and sloppily in most cases here. This is a “Middle Ground” debate. Present your opposing arguments and work together to find a commonality. This was not done, and audience participation often just fueled harassment and provocation.
@@evaramsey1736 but this isn’t a debate episode- it’s middle ground. So it is very disappointing
The finger snapping is something you would see in south park
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What about the applauding
What this episode taught me is just because you have a personal experience or connection to a topic does not make you an expert or able to argue it.
That requires contemplation, critiquing of your own thinking, writing things down 😅 takes a couple hours per topic
That's a huge thing. People seriously need to learn statistics and stop bringing isolated cases into debates. When we discuss societal issues we're doing so because multiple people have experienced similar issues and are wanting to make a change, not because 1 single person had an issue.
This is spot on analysis. In fact, having a personal connection naturally makes you subjective and objectivity is much more helpful when trying to find the middle ground. Emotions were certainly getting the best of people here.
Most true with the lady talking about Isreal
Yeah that abortion discussion for the democrats side was horrible. They had a literal lawyer with facts and statistics to argue it well and they chose to send the woman who underwent an abortion to speak solely on emotion.
Editor's tip: In the future, please highlight the SAN FACT CHECK in red when what the person says is FALSE, and highlight it in green when what the person says is TRUE. PLEASE! 🙏
Most of these were yellow if anything.
I don't think that would really work as these claims are not always 100% true or false. Especially when it comes to statistics somebody may be technically correct but not taking into account sample size or other counter points of the study.
Agreed.
No bc then people wouldn’t actually read the fact check
@@JaxonFarquhar-fg4gz Exactly let people do some effort to get to their opinions for once.
Q: Where's the middle ground?
A: It's in the moderators T-shirt
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Hahaha true :D
He reminded me of wheres Waldo.
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Bruh 😂
Watching this after the election shows why we had the result we had.
I love the results
nd I hate them
I think Jubilee Middle Ground does a great job of exposing an inconvenient truth: There are a lot of people in this country who are more interested in looking for arguments than they are in looking for solutions to problems.
too I think if they were looking for a middle ground they would start with something they think the other side would agree on and with something they think they can win on.
This comment hits a home run. It's so very true.
well said
Best comment of all!
Because there is a fallacy that a middle ground means thats where the correct answers are. Its called the argument to moderation fallacy. Sometimes one side is CORRECT and the other is WRONG. Not everything is a pretty unnuanced fairy tale like you want it to be where we can sing kumbuya at the end
The fact they applaud the most ignorant ones and ignore the ones actually trying to have a debate is INSANE
If you see yourself as a VICTIM your a DEMOCRAT. If you see yourself as someone who can OVERCOME anything CHALLENGING, if you BELIEVE in YOURSELF, if you WORK HARD your a REPUBLICAN. cool ... I learned a lot.
@@JoeBoxerNo1you’re *
exactly,if africans built america in one hundred years how come they cant build anything africa in thousands of years
@@JoeBoxerNo1 Jubilee is based in California. Californian Republicans and Democrats are the most insufferable people ever. California Republicans are socially liberal and fiscally conservative (like Caitlyn Jenner, Blaire White, George Santos, Douglas Murray, and Dave Rubin). They vote for Republican because they want low taxes, deregulation, and unconditional support for Israel. Most Republicans in other parts of the country don't view them as real conservatives. California Democrats care more about social liberalism than working-class issues. They get their politics from ContraPoints, Philosophy Tube, Vaush, Destiny, Jessie Gender, and Hasan. They would be more sucessful politically if they promoted well-known social democrats like FDR, Clement Attlee, Tommy Douglas, Olof Palme, Francois Mitterand, and George Orwell. If you want to see relatively normal Republicans and Democrats, go to the Upper Midwest and the Rust Belt. These states are very working-class and they tend to be swing states instead of red or blue states. Democrats should emulate FDR and JFK, while Republicans should emulate Teddy Roosevelt and Dwight Eisenhower.
@@JoeBoxerNo1 Shh! 🤫
the moderator ACTUALLY needs to stop people from interrupting each other and do what a moderator is supposed to do
agreed. there should be a 3-strike policy where after the 3 strikes, you're out
Oh yeah, that’s one of the flaws in these debates.
Hasan's chair would be a better mod 😂
He’s a soft lib what do you expect
I see it as a lose-lose situation. You overplay your hand, people accuse you of taking a side. If you do nothing, we have comments like yours.
The fact that the republicans wouldn’t even elect a trans person to speak about trans issues speaks volumes lmao.
"I'm 23, I've been in the work force a very long time." hahaha
That was funny 😅.
I noticed that too! like what??😂
If he started working at 17 or 18, that's 5 years.
That made me chuckle, as well 😅
I started working at 13, so 10 years would be pretty long...
"I don't want to be rich because I'd be taxed more" words no one has ever said.
Literally taxing the rich has never not made them rich lol
@@Thomas-zt7dm I'm pretty sure that 'taxing more' makes people in High public office rich(er).
@@carloslozada84 Not really unless the approved budget includes a pay raise for them lol. Also I’m not opposed to public office positions getting a raise if they actually earn one. Especially if it means taxing the wealthy more.
@@Thomas-zt7dm The Association of Certified Fraud Examiners (ACFE), estimates that governments globally lose around 5% of annual revenues to fraud, waste, and abuse. If applied to the U.S. federal budget, which exceeds $6 trillion, I believe it would be better to solve this issue first instead of rising the taxes.
*_“John Steinbeck once said that socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”_*
The two young boys debating or having discussions about economics are actually the best part here, you can see in their eyes they wanted to listen and learn more from each other not trying to interrupt when either of them is speaking
Nah, Parker spoke a lot, but didn't say that much. Chandler did better though. And Xaviaer was on fire 🔥
It's easier tbf. You can't get too emotional unlike having Palestinians or Jews debating about an ongoing war.
@@trueblade3636 Chandler just used talking points that u can hear every day on Newsmax😐
Surface level wise yes but parker is always such a little prick when it comes to this stuff and you can see what he thought about it on his shitty little Twitter account
@@trueblade3636 Parker said quite a lot, it seems that you didn't do a great job listening.
props to the angry middle eastern guy for being self aware enough to not put himself forth as he knew he was too close to the issue
But then decided to go on a rant after? 😭😂
I love the fact that the Gen-Z kids at the beginning were probably the most respectful out of the entire group of people. And the majority are fully-maturated adults.
Their topics were easier to discuss.
@@eugenetswongI think that’s all relative. You can still be respectful while having a complicated topic to discuss
@eugenetswong why would the topic change your respect level, let me give you a hint it doesn't you should do your best to be respectful in debate
Half of Gen Z are fully mature adults
"fully mature"
“i come from a rape victim” and her correcting herself saying “well she claims she was raped” is shocking.
I choked
If you see yourself as a VICTIM your a DEMOCRAT. If you see yourself as someone who can OVERCOME anything CHALLENGING, if you BELIEVE in YOURSELF, if you WORK HARD your a REPUBLICAN. cool ... I learned a lot.
@@JoeBoxerNo1 then let's always ask ourself why violent people, thugs, and so on go forward in their lives lol
I mean maybe her mom is a lose cannon, she would know. But i certinally would belive my mom if she told me she was raped(by a person i didnt know)
@@JoeBoxerNo1 that's just completely untrue lmao
I respect the first conversation between the two men. These are how debates are supposed to be. Thank you guys
parker was really rude on a previous video, and I didnt agree with him on a previous video, but i really loved how respectful he was this video, it was like night and day.
@@hesaidWHAT255i agree i think he has been rude in the past, but unfortunately many politicians are this way. i think hes an incredibly intelligent kid. a lot of potential.
@@hesaidWHAT255 i also think he is only rude when the person shows a bad attitude. hes just matching their energy.
Parker is immensely annoying.
It was really funny seeing how much Parker channeled Charlie Kirk in the first debate (very effectively) after acting he totally destroyed him in the surrounded video
I would have liked to see the conservative transwoman talk to Blossom.
Jaylen is obnoxious.
They have, and Blossom threatened to meet them in the parking lot.
blossom is the obnoxious one. she's oversensitive and made 0 points
@@jamespashley8646blossom was obnoxious, yet she was valid. How can a cis properly debate a trans. I agree with Jaylen, yet he had no statistics. Just feelings. There was absolutely no shot he was going to get anywhere on the topic
"I have a degree in economics and talk about this all day every day" vs "i've been alive for the past 8 years" is wild
his entire life has been tiktok debatres where he doesnt let anyone talk and just raises his voice over people. the other one probably has a 9-5 and is more affected by the economy lol
Economics is not a hard science, no economist can predict anything. Life experience is often a better predicter.
Reminds me of the “I did my research” vs the “I’ve been a virologist/epidemiologist/doctor all day every day” debate.
@@frontiertegthe facts and data would disagree with you
@@evanstone7656 I suspect frontierteg isn't about 'facts' 😜
Nooooo not Blossom again. She threatened Blaire White in her last debate on here and as a reward you're inviting her again?
No for real if they want to invite him they should have had blaire white 😭
We love Jubilee for this ❤
They apparently don't care because she aligns with Jubilee's ideas.
They should have just invited Blaire back LOL
Blossom's a Democrat, so if they want a trans Democrat who isn't Blossom, how about Samantha Lux instead?
They picked the wrong person to debate the trans issue! They had two trans conservatives and they chose a non trans person to debate? Come on!
@@CurlyBoyChuck I totally agree. And everyone in the comments is criticising Blossom but I think she had a lot of valid points. I think people had already made their minds up about her from previous videos, but I thought she came across well in this debate.
This is why we need you to be in a jubilee episode! It would be incredible to see you debate. I am a big fan and absolutely love your content.
super true, huge missed opportunity
Quite simply it's because most of the Republicans don't believe transgrenderism is a real valid thing. So they picked someone that represents their pov best
@@seanjohnson8910 People are allowed to be different and it's ok to be different from each other, including what we consider is our gender identity. Trans people are trans they are not cis, if you can't see that or understand that then you should open your eyes because everyone else can see.
sheila is SOOOOO obnoxious. why are you arguing w the people you weren’t even sitting with 😭
She definitely was she needed to quiet down a little and stop interrupting, she was literally so ignorant and gave her side a bad look.
Passionate because too close to the issue. She made strong points, but the passion because she was so close was her weakness.
Gotta ask, why are the people who weren't sitting with her arguing and attacking her? 🤔
She made absolutely no sense- didn’t argue any of his original points
Most of these people are so disrespectful. This is what society has become. All talking, barely any listening. No understanding, only alienation from each other and a broken society.
this is why i dislike jubilee so much. they always pick the most out of hand people to do these videos for views instead of creating a space for anything meaningful. if everyone’s on edge of course they’re gonna fight each other like this.
@@biac327 except for the fact that lefties cant actually fight. Their men need to fight women for it to be a fair fight :/
All political discussions involve disruptions. If you were looking for a peaceful robotic controlled debate with no interruptions at all, then this is not the place for you, sorry. Hope, I did not say anything to offend you. Have a great day.
@@comet6740 ahhh, a moron I see.
Because this is what our ruling class wants now. If we are arguing about things that truly don’t matter, they can keep imposing “rules for thee and not for me.”
Moderator’s shirt is perfect lol
😮
All that's missing is the Sonichu medallion
He is probaly political party fluid!
Almost like they did it on purpose 😮
@@Realwessharpeit is cursed please gift it to Ethan Ralph
Sheila kept telling Evan, "I'm still talking". Then, when he tried to respond, she cut him off constantly.
it's human nature to want to respond to somebody. she does the same thing to him too anyways.
@@luvoi Thats literally what he just said.
Jewish ppl cannot talk about this rationally.
As a staunch conservative, yeah. I'm very frustrated when people do that on either side, which is one of the reasons I can't stand Parker in other media I've seen him in. Imagine how much we could get done if we spoke slowly and rationally, and listened to what the other people were saying!
She was a bit hypercritical yeah. Like a lot tbh
the way the republicans chose jaylen to debate over the trans women simply because he said he thinks it’s a mental illness
Bc it is. There is no argument on that. Blaire white has spoken about it multiple times, nd has used it to uplift millions of people.
If YOU see mental illness as a negative thing instead of something countless people go through in many ways, you need to do some reevaluation. Yes it is something that needs to be healed, but healed does not always mean detransitioning.
If you pretend the issue isn't there you aren't helping any community. You're only promoting more room for mental illness to be ignored.
Blossom coming into the abortion debate to say she disagrees because they’re not including pregnant trans people 🤦🏼♂️. Girl this topic ain’t about you, sit down.
It is though? Trans people can get pregnant so this topic does relate back to them
Women can get pregnant@@nappxpi
@@nappxpi Female to X that only identify as trans can get pregnant, but the rest are castrated or biologically male
When did they start putting uteri in trans people?
@@nappxpiThe person clearly meant that TRANS WOMEN can’t get pregnant
Give this moderator a drink. 🥃 Mans probably exhausted
He didn't really do anything
He was a horrible moderator
I thought he did a great job. I’ve been in his shoes before. It is a lot harder than it looks.
So a channel with millions of subscribers can't find a moderator who can do what it takes to be an actual moderator lmao..@@tldrttyl
Even if it's "harder than it looks" yeah no,you have one job so please do it properly
Why do guys keep inviting blossom???? I’m democratic, and she’s just a no
A possible alternative to Blossom is Samantha Lux.
It*
@@len-1768we don’t need an alt. just don’t invite blossom
blossom is a dude
stop being such a transphobe
This is totally from my experience:
Democrats: vote based on data and what theyve seen news articles and whatnot
Republicans: based on experience and what they have seen
"experience" means literally nothing dude you can live a great life under an unjust system simply because you have access to resource, macroeconomics and foreign policy isn't something you gain expertise on with shallow headcannon understanding
@@x1zn998Nah he means Dems vote based on what the news says.
Example:
-News says Biden kept gas low and therefore the democratic candidate who will copy his policies is the best choice. Dems see this and follow exactly what the news said.
-Republicans go to gas station and see gas prices have grown by comparing current prices with records they had before the current sitting president. Thus they realize Biden didn’t keep gas low but let its price go uncontrolled so they vote for the candidate who will bring it back down.
Your not wrong ngl
What an interesting observation!
@@darth3911what an !diotic explanation you just made
Target vs Walmart Employees
The middle ground we want.
HEB vs Walmart too😭
I need a norms vs Waffle House middle ground
These people don’t know what systemic racism is. 😢
@@LVLexus This little thing called "affirmative action"
this had so much potential. you need to vet each person and make sure they are intellectuals who actually know how to have a proper argument/debate. Not just get emotional
yeah there was way too much “that’s not true!!” without providing actual statistics from both sides
People ask to be on the show, which is why you see the same people over and over again. They can't keep paying Destiny, Ben Shapiro, and Charlie Kirk to be on the show 🤣🤣
Both sides regurgitated crap talking heads on the media bring up everyday. Pick up a book and learn the real statistics and facts before picking up the pitchforks.
well, they invited jews, trann'ies and ni'gs so they don't care about realizing potential to achieve greatness.
Respectfully, I see this kind of comment in every middle ground video. No matter who is sitting there, emotions will show because we are humans. You could be the most “evolved” human but when you’re getting into discussions about things you’re passionate about, emotions will show.
I think the problem is that we as an audience seem to have a problem listening to opposing arguments and seeing real discussions take place rather than curated ones. I personally don’t want a robotic conversation and I don’t want an overly emotional discussion either. But natural emotions will arise and I don’t see the issue. Real life is nuanced and upsetting 🤷🏾♀️
jubilee try not to milk 2024 election challenge level impossible
They need to make money and it makes sense to centre everything around an election which happens only every 4 years
@@ekg891 im not shaming them for making money off of it, if they can they should (and they are), im jus pointing out how they seem to create these "debates" that are really just fighting matches of supposed "normal Americans" when in reality, most of these people are influencers
They milk every election, it's literally what political TH-cam commenters do so why is theirs any different?
You are milking this comment. Be original 😭
This is actually Interesting and productive especially if ur an American
Connie & Xaviaer 💙❤
Only one statement comes to mind as I am listening to their middle ground debate. "Two things could be true." Which, in this case.. they absolutely are 💯
Yes, I loved their debate. Actively hearing each other out and giving each other room to to state their claims without being bf disrespectful or disregarding their experiences.
Jubille in 2050:
10000 Republicans vs. 10000 Democrats WHO WILL WIN 😮
Unoriginal comment
Plus swords.
Win at what? A gun battle or a dress up contest?
Rules: no biting, no gouging
With a maxed out GPU/CPU combo.
I'm a conservative, full disclosure. Sheila was very annoying. "I'm speaking" yet 10 seconds into him talking & throughout the ENTIRE time he spoke she interrupted 🤦🏼♀️
Look at what she said. Yes, she was angry - but because she was confronted with victim-blaming for being constantly and brutally attacked because of the simple fact of being jewish (violating every international law, in every possible way and and in genocidal intend, by the way) and than being critisized for the way you defend. I cannot belief how the moderator and the audience could tolerate Evan talking in such a racist way without getting mad. This should be absolutelys inaccaptable.
@@julesharper7209exactly he isnt even Palestinian or jewish
@julesharper7209 that does not change the fact that she told the guy (basically screamed at him) to stop interrupting since she was talking (and he stopped), yet, everytime the guy and the latina girl spoke, she kept on interrupting
@@Jayden-d9v8b You don't need to be. I'm Dutch and against what Isreal is doing and has been doing for years.
nah i respect sheila
The agressive finger snapping in the background i canttt💀💀💀💀
It's the worst thing I've ever witnessed
u cant what
@@bicholouco1281it basically just means that she/he can’t stop laughing
i mean it's a respectful way to show solidarity without being loud about it
I had to stop watching
I didn't realize this video was 2 hours long! I can only imagine how much content was removed. I would LOVE to see the unedited version of this.
"I'm 23. I've been in the workforce a really long time."
No.
child labor
Yeah hilarious lady who is a "temporarily embarrassed millionaire". Woman sit down, become rich and pay your taxes.
I could not believe that I heard that argument from a real person. I thought it was essentially a meme. She might as well have said that she expected to become a professional athlete bc her statistical chances of becoming rich and being a professional athlete are about the same.
That made me laugh too!
She's absolutely brain dead. She said if she gets taxed higher she'd rather not be rich anymore... like what? You're still rich after taxation and not in poverty... would she like to go back to poverty because of taxation?!?
jubilee is the new mr beast for politics. cant wait for the 100 republicans vs 100 democrats, last one alive gets 1 million dollars!!!
Hopefully they don’t start selling moldy food too.
Lol I'd bring popcorn 🍿
I love jubilee's evolution
we know who'd win that one 😂
And if you concede against your opponent without debating it first will be given $1000.
Sheila and Evan debate reminds me of the saying "confidence is silent, Insecurity is loud." nah because having several people trying to stop you from cutting off others multiple times and yet you're still yapping is crazy to me 😭
Which is ironic because her debate was the most solid in the republican side so far.
@@kaikuso9711 where? she was defending israel's war crimes.
@@kaikuso9711like how she lied about how Palestine population increase which she didn’t go back year before 45’ 😂😂
@@kaikuso9711 not true (I'm not a democrat btw)
Dr. Sheila, please, they let you speak. No matter how passionate you are, show some respect to them.
Respect for parker and chandler having one of the better debate’s on this channel as they were going fact for fact within in the same topic while not letting their emotions influence their words or actions!
Except when Chandler couldn't define what Marxism is
@@HiMarvkiand he brought it up and asked “why he’s asking for a definition”😭😭
Parker easily dismantled clueless Chandler who thinks capitalist Kamala is a marxist but has no idea what marxism is. Chandler also thinks Biden caused global inflation? 😂😂
@@oklol7799 lmfao it was hilarious when he brought it up then acted like he knew how to define it, hiding it by asking parker to define it
Because he gets his information from truth social and twitter memes
Respect for parker and chandler having one of the better debate’s on this channel as they were going fact for fact within in the same topic while not letting their emotions influence their words or actions! wanna know more about XAI720T too bro
I was honestly half expecting the democrats to pick the Marxist for the first debate.
@@snaplemouton I didn't expect the one lying about formula to be the GOP speaker.
You copied someone else's reply but I agree
Dean n Parker carry themselves so well know so much about each candidate, policies, and have done the research with liable sources and know how to debate it’s so refreshing when they go up
@@patrickrea6771he also poorly explained anything he stated and went about the whole thing by asking Parker questions 😭
we are so divided its scary
@@vincentfrye8056 I'm glad this episode showed how people may disagree with their own parties, but worried when both parties wanted to follow cult like behavior and choose a side just to oppose. Like really?
Honestly, kind of just seems like we're only really divided on that one topic... Seems like in every other topic both sides were able to reach a middle ground
It’s even scarier that it’s really over nothing and misinformation we essentially all want the same things we are just being divided and confused from outside sources once we both realize that we will come together but before then I am afraid there will be bloodshed
There's no difference, it's a one party state. Both parties exist to screw you
The mainstream media and academia - among others - are to blame.
I’m Australian I personally know somebody who transitioned as a minor who has come out and stated that they regret transitioning because they didn’t understand the repercussions and they weren’t properly educated and they were not mentally capable of making that decision for themselves. 1000% children should not be allowed to transition until they are an adult.
The fact that the Republicans had literally TWO transwomen on their panel and didn't choose EITHER to debate the topic regarding trans issues is absolutely mind boggling 🤣🤣 lol
Shows what Republicans think of trans people. They don’t think trans people should speak about their own issues.
You've lost pal 🤣🤣🤣
Cuz the arguments should stand on their own merit, not based on who is saying them. If you wanna ad hominem, then focus on the person
You’re fired….
@@josemontoya6305 I love how NONE of you show your faces...a bunch of cowards
Sheila: IM NOT DONE DONT INTERRUPT ME!
Evan: *waits*
Evan starts making his arguments
Sheila: interrupts Evan.
Girl if you ask someone to not interrupt you then don’t interrupt the other person when they speak!
she is rude af
I SWEAR i always find these isreali defenders being the most obnoxious
literally
I think Sheila was clearly just very frustrated and took it out in angry ways. As someone who comes from an Israeli family, it’s extremely frustrating discussing the topic with people who have zero stakes in the actual outcome, but still think they know what is the proper solution after just starting to learn about it a few years ago
As a progressive, this is unfortunately a topic that has massively removed me from my peers simply because I think the majority of them could not care less about the safety of Israelis and want to paint them as the mustache twirling villain
she occupied the conversation just like israel lmfao
Now there are 60 of them. This is getting out of hand.
We should not have made this bargain.
This is my apprentice, jubilee. They will milk this election.
Next, 1,000
Next, a total of 325 million. Oh wait, that’s in November.
😂😂😂😂😂
Something odd I saw when watching is during the Evan vs Sheila section at 43:24, Sheila gets upset at Evan for interrupting her but then as Evan begins to talk she constantly interrupts him.
"I lived 4 years in the economy"
Yeah so have we buddy 😂
Lots of anger and no love. The idea of being divided red and blue is exactly why there was really no middle ground. It was like watching two gangs argue over turf.
Should they ALL wear the same color? The point is to create a space where people can discuss their differences. What people did with that opportunity is up to them. There were some clear hidden agendas & I can guarantee you people were asked to come back for this episode because of their controversial comments & debate styles.
Democrips and Repbloodicans.
Hear hear
@@sha1841 the point is that when they did discuss things they actually didn’t for the most part try to find middle ground because they were playing teams. You have to look past the teams in order to hear someone out. They looked more interested in debating well for the team than finding any middle ground.
Crips and the bloods
They built Sheila up to be some political and debating genius when all she did was interrupt and talk over Evan, even though Evan gave her COMPLETE SILENCE and respect whilst she was speaking. If you cant respect the most basic rules of debating, then you shouldn't be given the platform.
What time stamp was that
Sheila was completely insufferable
@Random-sk6hm she was amazing. Imagine having to deal with these truth denials n@zis every f day
@@pokydana oh lord please stop defending Zionism it’s pathetic at this point…
If you see yourself as a VICTIM your a DEMOCRAT. If you see yourself as someone who can OVERCOME anything CHALLENGING, if you BELIEVE in YOURSELF, if you WORK HARD your a REPUBLICAN. cool ... I learned a lot.
“I have a mixed race son who is black”… no you have a mixed race son lol
Who is black. How can you say they're one or the other? My brother is mixed, my child is mixed, but they are just as one race as they are the other.
Yikes. Get a grip.@@lovexeden1207
@@lovexeden1207 ur missing the point
@@x1zn998 the point was "mixed race isn't black", which is wrong. Mixed is whatever two races created you.
@@x1zn998No, you are.
1:35:34 this woman saying her mom "claimed" to be raped and that she doesn't know if it was true is so crazy. to say that about her own mom.. wow.
No this like broke my heart like howw can you say this about someone who literally raised you??
She probably wasn't raised by her birth mother. I can imagine that may have e been traumatizing for her so she probably gave the child up for adoption, so this is how the child (now adult) has processed this
I got the impression she was adopted. Her birth mother couldn’t take care of her as a rape victim. So she was adopted into a Christian household who fought to keep her
I honestly think she needs therapy or to talk to someone because there’s some issues there deeply rooted
You don't know anything about the circumstances and just chose to assume the worst. It's like you seriously just got offended over something that potentially could have happened involving the mother. Do you believe all claims of rape? Tara Reid claimed Joe Biden assaulted her with his finger but I don't see Democrats believing her for example.
I’m not even American but these videos have me in a chokehold😭
Same 💀 its just for entertainment, having more knowledge and insight + learning more which is always nice
Same. First 10 seconds and Im done...
Me too they’re entertaining fo me
@@jeffersonhassan4558chokehold means they like the videos💀
@@jeffersonhassan4558they like the videos u dingus
Sheila be yelling for no reason. Evan was so calm
I'm sayinnnggg, he handled that argument so professionally
It's passion and experience vs a guy who's just saying what he seen on TV
Yea i hated her
@@Jaaay36 This, 100% this. Nearly ever statement that she said was 100% correct and she was completely knocking Evan off his feet. It went off topic but its clear that her experience compared to him is night and day.
@JordynJackson-tn9jm antisemitic?
Why doesn’t Jubilee run these videos like a presidential/vice presidential debate?
1. First person to speak gets 1 minute uninterrupted
2. Second person gets 1 minute to respond uninterrupted
3. First person is given the option to respond
If someone interrupts more than two times than they have to go back to their chair and the next person waiting to debate can come up to the chair.
I know they must want level of some tension and drama in the videos, but sometimes you can’t even hear what people are saying (like that Destiny episode)
doesnt get as many clicks
@@ironman1458 true
These giant debates are getting out of hand.
It’s going to turn into a mini civil war. 😅
Exactly. Jubilee has lost its mind. I’m here for informative debates, not shouting and cheering matches. I guess it’s all about the clicks now for Jubilee. Never mind delivering quality or excellence.
It really is. Here for the comments.
I think there needs to be more people
@@GlobalWave1 facts LOL.
Blossom vs Jaylen was the most mind numbing conversation and I'm so disappointed they picked some guy with a pink frohawk instead of THE LITERAL TRANSGENDER MEDICAL STUDENTS.
Yeah I honestly can't understand that at all.
I was so sad when Jazmen Jafar on the Democrat side gave up her spot, she is a very powerful debater on feminist issues, and you can find several debates of hers online.
As for why the conservatives didn't choose the trans person, you already know why.
@@jasonjadrnak6841 I don't think its too hard to understand. I think the majority of them were anti-trans.
He looks like an lgbtq, they should be able to find some common ground instead of whining.
But he's not trans, he doesn't have the experience of a trans person@@Beaverhound
Not believing your own mother saying she was a victim of rape is just wild...
Oh my ..... these Republicans never fail to disappoint
Honestly
Rl tlk
The mother might have a wild side that she just can’t hide. The kid has first hand knowledge of knowing the mother is the boy who cried wolf
@@fallenlight9996you can have a “wild side” and still get raped. what’s wrong with you?
Openly saying "I'm a Marxist" in America is so goofy considering what 50 years ago looked like 💀
nonsensical point
Openly saying you’re a Marxist is goofy full stop.
@@patriciag6030 Explain how
@@x1zn998 First, everyone in America saw how genuinely BAD that system is, and second, the entire cold war
@ I think that proudly saying you support an economic model that has failed every time it has been tried is pretty goofy. It’s an ideology supported by people who are ignorant of history or are too young to understand how the world works or don’t pay taxes so have no stake in the economy other than to take handouts.
Can we get an IHOP vs Denny's middle ground 2024 debate?
too political
Is the independent point of view Waffle House?
They're not ready for this at all. Way too controversial
Will end up getting taken off TH-cam
team IHOP 🙋🏾♀️
Parker vs Chandler was the best conversation in this one. Ironic its the youngest people in that room.
Exactly lol. It progressively got worse and worse. I liked Connie and Xavier’s debate as well.
Parker ate
@@MrZix91 no, no he did not lol
@@MrZix91 parker cant debate and is incredibly naive
@@Iamthenoodle all Chandler could do was parrot buzzwords. No actual understanding of any of the issues he was talking about
The black guy with the pink hair had no idea what he even believes in. They should have let the transgender conservative go.
Yes and no. His point is not bad at all.
Im baffled why they chose him
“I think trans people are demonic” yeah that dude wasn’t ready for a real adult conversation
that just proves the point of the democrats. they couldn't give the floor to someone who was directly affected by the topic at hand. they couldn't even nominate a woman who was pro-life. they just don't give the floor to anyone they don't like, even when that person agrees with them. the only person they gave the floor to was the Zionist and I believe they only accepted her because they knew she would talk about the atrocities as a one sided issue. and the republicans think EVERYTHING is one sided.
@@SceptonicMy guess is some of them did it based on Transphobia and the other 2 options were trans women
The republicans voting in a cis dude for a trans debate after having two trans women ask to speak is crazy
Not understanding how a tax cut can help you is absolutely wild.
FR! She says I can’t afford to put food in the pantry! Does she not understand that a tax cut would give her more money for food?
I wouldn't necessarily say "cut", but seeing how the what current taxes are going towards it's better than what currently have, how do they not understand?
Combed thru this whole comment section just to give you this up vote
She sees social programs as more efficient means as meeting people’s needs.
The Nordic countries do very well with their social programs the question if it would work in the us is another matter.
@@Greazzy_G Many people who struggle with food don't pay taxes. They actually get back more than they pay in and have a negative tax rate.
How are you going to cut their taxes? You have to increase things like the child tax credits or expand EITC to help them, not necessarily cut taxes.
Shelia: I’m talking.
Also Shelia: Doesn’t care to share the same respect with others.
She is entitled. So incredibly annoying.
its because she obviously knows better than everybody in that room is it not obvious
Im not a huge politics guy. But i found it odd how she put a threshold to what facilitates the term "genocide". As she said, Jews in Germany lost essentially 6 mil of their ethnic population. Which was a 60% diminish. Why would any other tragedy not be considered a genocide just because it didn't reach the 6 million threshold? That's wack. I would say the threshold to delegate the term genocide is relative to a populations' size internally. If a population of 1,000 lost 600, would we call it genocide, or would we call it a massacre because it doesn't reach the 6 million mark?
i really found her the most irritating of all, most on the red side when asked questions, they tip toe around it or counter argument to avoid answering.
Notice how her necklace also shows all of Palestine. Meaning she wants Israel to take over all of the occupied territory also. She is such a whiney wannabe victim 🙄
You know Sheila needs help when even republicans are disagreeing with her.
Did you even saw the video? On all points democrats disagrees with the democrat speakers, so all democrat speakers need help after your logic
Were watching the same video 75% of them agreed with her middle ground
@@willestes3319Yes with the middle ground statement not the arguments or behavior lmao. Chronically onlinetard try not to be dishonest challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
How did they even find 30 republicans in LA
I have to say I’m 40 minutes into this but Sheila came into this extremely aggressive and didn’t seem like someone who was looking to have a civil conversation. Didn’t like her on this whatsoever could be all much smarter with XAI720T and guys joining
Sheila 2 seconds in: IM SPEAKING DO NOT INTERRUPT ME.
*proceeds to be physically unable to not interrupt for any longer than 41 seconds*
Define XAI720T and how would it help? 😂
@@tripthrasher3569these dudes suck, they copy popular comments and add that at the end. From what I searched it’s like a crypto scam? TH-cam’s gotta do something about these bots
Every single one of these that Ive tortured myself with that she has been on has been a disaster. She won't let the other person speak but will freak out if you try to interrupt her.
@@tripthrasher3569 I think Crypto scam bot comment
shelia couldn’t stay on topic, i understand she’s trying to share her story but she’s not even TRYING to listen to who she was debating nor the topic itself.
it clearly asked what’s the US stance against the middle east, or whatever it was. and her response was “stop teaching kids hate” i was having a hard time understanding.
evan gave a great answer in my opinion
I agree! Sheila is fairly obviously one of those people that you just can’t change the minds of
ngl she made me mad bc she kept raising her voice, and telling him to stop talking over her. but would talk over him 🤔
PREACHHHHH!!!!
Why is it that rebulicans have issues with abortion and are pro life... when there are living breathing children that have already been born being essayed and physically abused... i dont feeling the same energy....
Thats classic Israeli talking point defense tactics. The realities of the situation are so indefensible that you need to engage in racist demonization in order to try and justify the realities.
This format is a LOT better. You actually get to a final statement both sides agree on which should be the point
Why do all the democrats get so offended after every statement 😭
Pride
the fact that Sheila told Evan “she was talking” when he interrupted her and then proceeded to interrupt every single person who talked
Because that was not a middle ground debate, I was a different segment no?
@@niccolopaganini1782 No it was a middle ground debate.
Shelia was outta line and emotional. Kick her and anyone out next time
@gavinmead6282
I was disappointed when she started doing that. She definitely had a lot of first hand knowledge on the subject, almost all of which was proven true per the fact checks. I agreed with what she was saying too, but when it wasn’t her turn and the interruptions wouldn’t stop, well, even I was ready for her to be quiet atp.
Sheila is wayyy wayyy wayyyy too intense and aggressive here to be able to legitimately debate here. Absolute cringe. Why is she even here
Because it’s her people. She’s Jewish and she has a personal touch to this issue. You’re only passionate about the things you love. The same way Ayoub was intense
Exactly!
Not more than that Arab dude
@@Raderade1-pt3om you mean the one that even said they didn’t think they would be the best representative of the blue side and bowed out early to give it to someone else? Lmao ok. Shiela lost here just on her unhinged attitude and rudeness
Average Zionist.
sheila should NOT be invited to one of these again. incredibly terrible at debating “im speaking!” but when he wants to speak she interrupts him and ignores what hes saying. please get her off here.
yeah i agree, both sheila and blossom should never be on a jubilee video again
Agreed wholeheartedly
You're anti-semitic.... hahahaha
@@grezdaed ur projecting
which side they are part of?
Can blossom ever have a conversation without getting offended?
no😁
She also can’t say anything without starting with “let’s be very clear.”
This finger snapping and gasping is so lame and weird on both sides, especially when they do it to distract the other person, its just self defeating...
it’s just to prevent the clapping overshadowing the talking
The finger snapping is them clapping, without making a massive amount of noise
@@JuliusCheeser223it’s really gay
@@halohalo7218 Why clap? Just why?
They clap just to show loyalty to their political side, if only one side is clapping what is there to clap about? Who benefits from you clapping? Its just childish nonsense, instead of nodding brainlessly when your side is talking try listening to both speakers its not that hard...
@@TheRobe- OK and?
Sheila interrupts this poor guy every time he speaks, but throws a tantrum when anyone dare speaks over her.
It's honestly aggravating because Sheila actually has the stronger argument and the facts are on her side. She just can't regulate her emotions because she is too personally invested.
@@Delta3anglelol no she doesn’t half of the fact checks were even calling her out.
anyone got evan’s socials?
@@Delta3angle the facts were absoultley not on her side, she was just interuppting the other side and wasn't speaking factually
average jewish woman
Next video 600,000 Democrats vs 600,000 Republicans
After that 602,000 vs 602,000
Or 1 million Democrats vs 1 million Republicans. 🤣
...and one knife.
10 billion Democrats vs 10 billion Republicans.
@@opium42069 The world's population is about 8 billion.
sheila i just can’t, it’s one thing to have experience have passion and whatnot, that doesn’t mean you can be disrespectful tho by not letting other people interrupt you while you literally refuse to let other people you don’t agree with speak
"I don't want taxes on the rich, because I want to become rich"
She actually said the meme.
more taxes on the rich means more taxes on middle class to she smart
franchise owners are in middle class and the getting destroyed by government
@@coopsnz1 she is, higher taxes based on economic status will just motivate rich people to grab their companies and leave the country, which means less jobs for everyone, besides the fact that everyone that starts prospering economically will instantly be taxed based on how prosperous they are.
@@vicevilla9949more franchise will close ! There less service station " fast foiod & new car dealees today that are franchise
So with that logic, you agree tariffs will increase inflation? @coopsnz1
Why did you bring blossom back? She is so unhinged. She adds nothing productive to the conversasion and that last Jubliee episode she was on and debated Blaire showed her to be a generally nasty person
Blossom is A Dude
Exactly
Cuz jubilee wants more comments and views. Look at all the comments cuz of blossom
@@BuffPomsky true it’s all for the views and likes
He*, no?
If Blossom's so worried about the lack of trans women, they should've invited Blaire. Would've loved a round 2 with them.
It would be easy to dispute the lack of transexual people just by a simple statistical population analysis.
A single transexual person is an over representation.
probably didn't so it could be rigged
lol no she doesn't mean THAT kind of trans woman... only wants to circle jerk with other trans women who agree with her. eyeroll. when is everyone going to just grow up? our country needs it.
blaire white is the worst to invite lol. she literally lied about trans women participating in competitive sports to get money, when said woman did NOT participate competitively.
@@itty2270 Source?
Ayo, that boy Parker was cookin! I could see when he knew he had him.
No, he didn’t…… I know him. He keep targeting on Christianity………..
@@CHRISTisKING-b8f Congratulations on saying absolutely nothing at all.
@@Sweet-Leaf buddy, I saw him in other debates against Charlie Kirk and others like Ben. He kept using words that most don’t know to make them think Parker making sense “ yeah exactly!” and keep rapidly stupidly definitions which made no sense or related to economy. Had you not see that women said “let destroy USA and rebuild it in Marxism system!”
@@CHRISTisKING-b8f Gonna hit you with a wild idea here. Understand it if at all possible. Grasp it. Hold it tight. The statements SHE made have no bearing on the actual arguments HE made. It's okay to be confused, but you'll be better off if you use that confusion to drive you to learn something.
@@CHRISTisKING-b8f "“let destroy USA and rebuild it in Marxism system!”
He says as if it's a bad thing.
I know the republican team was regretting picking Josh to argue on border policy.
This group of conservatives have mastered picking the wrong person to represent their side on SO MANY topics. The air is probably so sore from them punching it.
@@Jessie.tager23lol but they want to pick the president
@@Jessie.tager23 I doubt the outcome would have changed. These debates tend to go differently from what conservatives expect when you have people on equal footing arguing over specific issues rather than pundits using partisan hackery to argue in bad faith all of the time.
Josh argued at an Instagram reels level. Not even tik tok level.
Josh was astonishingly bad
The black guy with the pink hair had no idea what he even believes in. They should have let the transgender conservative go. do you figure XAI720T ? great work by them!
I loved everything about the guy with the pink hair 🤷🏻♀️
He knows what he was saying…
Y'all are arguing with a bot. @@shakuan868
Why did you copy the other comment word for word?
@@garnerthecube It's a bot
Alissa is trans, a victim of receiving gender affirming care as a minor (child) is literally studying to become a psychiatrist (a medical doctor specializing in mental health) and they still chose Jaylen to represent them for being Gen Z, damn
Uhmmm, okay? So what?
I think they chose the one option out of the three that wasn’t trans because, well, he’s not trans. Not gonna say this as a qualifying statement for all conservatives but many of them do not support trans people as a whole, or generally have a bit of negative bias against them and likely rather would’ve had the gay guy talk than the trans women.
They chose Jaylen because Republicans will platform anyone willing to weaponize hate for to conform to their simple and fundamentalist world view.
Because conservatives hate and deny the existence of trans people…they would rather have a gay guy on stage because they don’t wanna listen to a trans person speak 😭 it’s actually really sad
@@Rengokuo4o6he didn't know the proper arguments and counter arguments.
can we talk about Adam and Josh’s convo they felt very respectful to each other and Josh even apologized when he accidentally interrupted him. AND both of them listened to the audience’s opinions even if it wasn’t from their side
57:20 - "Prove it." "I just did." "No you didn't you just said a whole bunch of words." Is that not how you prove things.. with words..?
I’m sure he meant prove it with an actual arrest of breaking international law. That case has not reached a final verdict.
@@albertjayboyzybarra4The ICJ has already weighted in that the West Bank settlements and occupation is illegal. That’s not up for interpretation.
An indictment isn’t proof of a crime….. do you not know how justice works?
@@ThatTigr They literally didn't, y'all are literally proving the republican guy's statement that y'all are saying words that aren't backed by any evidence.
The illegal settlements are also a part of the human rights violations case, and they still haven't reached the verdict yet.
@@nateiness6528 .... lol what
“Im 23 and I’ve been in the workforce for a long time”
Girl, no you haven’t. You still have 3 more years on your parents insurance
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💯
Exactly. Not even a decade in
That’s funny 😂
started at 14! 9 years in the work force moved out of my family home at 16 had my own apartment and was able to buy a home at 20. To some that’s not a long time but considering that is 40% of my life I’d say that’s a long time!
@@ImjalisavI started at 14 as well.... In 1979. That's a long time.
Sheila: “Don’t interrupt me” while nobody is interrupting her
Also Sheila: *Interrupts people constantly*
The guy that she was debating was trying to interrupt
@@MexicanGirlie101 he let her speak and she tried to cut him off a lot
@@nin29nin yes ma’am or sir
@@QueenLighting4399 no, he first interrupted at 40:34.
@MexicanGirlie101 she interrupted him more times than he interrupted her
Parker for president 2032 .. I'm a Republican and vote Republican for the last three elections. But if he was candidate, I'd probably switch to Democrat. I wish more Democrats thought this way. More progressively. Not putting Band-Aids on everything but actually fixing the problem.
90% of these people are too emotional to debate anything
Fr like if Sheila has no hater, I’m dead
I’d say a lot of them were FAIRLY chill, blossom was almost chill but then she went off the rails near the end. Plus raising your voice isn’t having a full on meltdown.
Ong Sheila is so annoying
@@alexoxo3she does. She’s a big hater herself. I’m not even a. Democrat and yea she’s evil
I would say closer to 100%.
Sheila let her feelings run rampant and further created more disdain towards Isreal. I heard her try to say "you have one story" as if her story isn't also just one story. Her experience is hers alone and if she cannot realize that then she cannot speak for others.
Jews being murdered for entering parts of the West Bank isn't "her story" ffs
This!
Literally! She thinks she’s the important one in the predicament. Like no lady you’re just another person with just another perspective. You’re not important at all lmao
Middle ground? Might as well call it battle ground
Hahaha it's so weird watching host making it peaceful then seein the drama
"LET'S GET READY TO RUMBLEEEEE!!!!!"
Like they always said, the sword is more powerful than the pen.
53:22 that zionist shaking her head after the women was telling a story about her friend from Israel.. she genuinely believes Israel can do no wrong.