The scene where Bertie and Edith stay up all night to finish the magazine was definitely one of my favorite moments from their relationship. They really were made for each other.
It's also one of my favorites. I wish someone would post clips of Edith and Bertie at Brancaster Castle when they first meet and spend time with each other.
Also showed his kindness and flexibility. So good her happy ending was him. Her: I can’t lead a purposeless life- what a great thing to say. And for him to say he admires.
Genuinely one of my favorite storylines of the series. Once she's fully in control of the publishing, she really does come into her own and really finds her footing in the world!
You left out the scene when she meets Bertie at the bar and he offers to return with her back to the office to make coffee, order sandwiches and carry bits of paper around. All in an effort to just be near her. 💖
@@ramandeepnijjar8281 Me too! She was ready to just walk away and get back to work. Yet without any hesitation, Bertie jumped in right behind her. That long night was their first date, sort of speak. 💜
I really admire the tiny moment of depth when they were getting the magazine edited and Edith was uncertain on the pictures to add. A part of her was still an Earl's daughter- she was stewing over the guests ranks, whom to add and in what order based on social status. Bertie however took one look and understood that the purpose was to entertain and helped her to understand that she had absolute executive control of who made the paper and who didn't based on HER opinions of their fashion and importance. He didn't take any of her agency, he simply reminded her that she held the keys to the kingdom. This in turn shows them as a couple in a wonderful light. They weren't shrugging off or ignoring each other's mind- in fact their minds made them the best match
Excellent point that I had never considered. It’s truly what a partner should be. Someone who brings out the best in us and lets us do what we’re meant to do with gentle nudges.
So liked how the Crawley Women found their own establishments..Sybil with her Nursing Career..Mary Running The Crawley Estate for Little George...Edith with the Ownership/ Running of the Women's Magazine Publication as well as his Publishing Business..Cora taking over business affairs with the Downton Hospital..
He was too old for her. Old enough to be her father. They made a big deal about Strallen being old enough to be her father, but Gregson was only a few years younger. He still had 20 years on her. Of course, I mean the actors who played the characters. Bertie was the same generation as Edith, only a couple of years older.
"I wish we could've saw Edith and Michael's relationship grow. " And see them either stuck in Germany during the war or having to pull up stakes again in a few years? It was better for her in the end that the plan fell through.
@@reginabillotti Its a fictional show. Julianne Fellows could've had the script written so Michael lived. Maybe the actor (like Sybil and Matthew) wanted to do other things. At lease Edith ended up with Bertie 💕 So in the end, everything worked out 👍👍👍
Edith always really shone and stood out when she found a purpose that suited her. When she learnt how to drive, when she drove the tractor for the Drakes, when she was assisting with the soldiers, becoming a journalist. Definitely one of the better storylines in Downton Abbey
I absolutely love Edith, she is fantastic. Her character growth is remarkable. I never liked Mary, and when Edith finally put Mary in her place. It was Gold.
I agree. I don't think Edith would have been able to stand up to Mary with force and conviction if she hadn't found her footing, her path and her confidence. With her being her own boss and with the stakes much higher, Edith could no longer just "settle" for whatever life would give her after Mary got her own.
Ah yes, the Jane Eyre Rochester crazy wife triangle. I'm glad Edith persevered through all of that and kept her sanity. Logic and reasoning is her strength.
@@Robert08010 It's an old term for an advice column, often they specialize in certain things such as fashion, cooking, or other things that the public asks questions about, and the columnist responds.
@@Robert08010 Della Manley, the first recorded woman editor in Britain, began a gossip sheet in 1709, the Female Tattler, which included advice to readers, making her the first Agony Aunt. Her advice column approach was soon mimicked in the Female Spectator, a women's magazine launched by Eliza Haywood.[4]
I love Lady Edith and her whole story. But it's funny that she says she finds a married man flirting with her "repugnant", when just a few years earlier, she flirted and kissed the married farmer while she worked with him. Perhaps it shows just how much her character grew and matured. 🙂🌹
She was more immature then and that man was just a farmer. She didn't expect to marry him and he didn't have the power to trash her reputation. Gregson is a gentleman with some wealth and she likes him more than just "a fling". She is looking for a husband at this time and she hoped he was a bachelor. You can see her disappointment and rage when she finds out otherwise. She's not looking to become his mistress, she's looking for a good marriage match.
The Dowager's Butler got wind of Lady Edith as a hapless editor in London. He heard about it, and knew it was his opportunity to get his advice column also into the magazine.
I looooove Lady edith. Lady Mary just annoyed me. But Edith was so relatable and just imagine being in that office with a Woman Owner, Woman Editor and a woman secretary. Must have been so much fun and a joy.
In the 1880s, Elders & Fyffes started importing bananas to the UK from the Canary Islands through Southampton Docks. The trade grew and from the 1930s, millions of bananas were imported to Southampton from the Caribbean in specially-built ships.
It`s very sad that who ever put this vid together cut out the Moment when Berti says I can make Coffe and fetch Sandwiches. I loved that scene so much. Okay, but in anyway, thank you for upload
In the end, Edith found happiness - an interesting job, beloved children and - as a bonus - a husband with a peerage even surpassed her father. But she also had to learn the hard way to be honest. And her Bertie had to learn to assert herself against his mother and also to admit that it wasn't so easy for Edith to stand by Marigold. I hope, Edith and Bertie's luck also survived the Second World War, which the 20th century still has in store.
Yes, I love that Edith is going back into journalism. I know many loved her fairy tale ending in the series and I was happy she found Bertie; but people forget it was Mary who wanted to marry a title. Edith only a husband who wanted her and not Mary. She was even willing to settle for Strallen to get that. I liked she found she liked writing and made a life for herself post Strallen and then post Gregson. I hated she had to give that up because Bertie suddenly inherited a title from a cousin who should have been too young to be dying. I know many complained she was ungrateful because she wanted Bertie with her when their baby was born; but Edith had to have Marigold without Gregson, so I got it. I really wish Fellowes had left him a land agent. I thought it silly other fans were happy Edith outranked Mary as if Edith had one upped her. Edith never wanted to out rank her, she only wanted a man who wanted her and not Mary. I found it a shame in the last movie Bertie's title would keep Edith from her magazine and keep him from her. The only time we saw her happy in 6 seasons was at that magazine.
How horrible that she's apprehensive about him going due to the fallout of WW1, when he's going to end up being murdered by the future instigators of WW2
I dont understand Mr Skinner's mentality, you dont like working for a women fine then just leave. Why do you choose to continue working for Edith and giving her half assed work and then accuse her of meddling ?? Did he expect them to just anyhow publish whatever he gave them ?
It’s interesting how Edith tells Michael that the idea of a married man flirting with her is repugnant, but in series 2 we see her having an affair with the married farmer. This isn’t meant to be criticism but more so an observation in her growth as a character. Series 2 is an interesting one for Edith because we see her getting out of her comfort zone and do things that give her purpose. Perhaps the affair she had with the farmer was a manifestation of that desire to have purpose. Still, it’s interesting to see how her views on affairs changed and it says a lot about how much her time during the war, and being jilted at the alter, matured her for the better.
This was too sad the man got killed like that but honestly they had just gotten out of a war with Germany and you'd have thought anyone would have checked on thebstate if things over there before going. This was a hard plot to swallow
This was a world where good information about what was happening in other countries, even in your own country, was hard to come by. You are applying standards of the internet age to the 1920s, a hundred years ago. How was he supposed to "check" before going?
@@ssansu Idk I guess the same way they kept getting letters form other counties and newspapers telling what was happening abroad. Like how they hire a man to go look for dead people in India and Germany. They can hire a dude to go check.. Derp
How was he supposed to? There's no internet, radio news wouldn't be common place until after 1926, and you can hardly explain the complex status of a post war nation over telegram.
@@jazzycat8917 I already answered that question. They hired multiple people to go to Germany and check on the man's whereabouts soooo someone could have been hired to check on conditions in Germany. Heck they even had men searching India like a detective to find out what happened to one of the heirs to the fortune Michael inherited
@@jazzycat8917 I already answered that question. They hired multiple people to go to Germany and check on the man's whereabouts soooo someone could have been hired to check on conditions in Germany. Heck they even had men searching India like a detective to find out what happened to one of the heirs to the fortune Michael inherited
I disliked Edith but I liked this for her. I liked her fashion choices too…what I found funny was the first line of the video…did you forget you kissed and flirted with Mr Drake, a married man also?
This is the last career anyone who enjoys leaking so many personal information about one's own sister and family should ever choose. Actually i am wrong, this is exactly and precisely a career for this kind of person, although it is not called being a journalist, it is called being a paparazzo. Nothing to be proud of.
Actually, it was journalism and not paparazzo. She did not go chasing people around with a camera uninvited in those days. Also for Edith to successfully run a magazine as a woman in those days was a tremendous achievement. As for the letter that she wrote to the Turkish Embassy, she was seventeen yrs old at that time. Also the letter was written after she had endured bullying from Mary her whole life. Yes it was a mistake but she was still in her teens. You have zero emotional understanding and absolutely no understanding of the times that Edith was living in.
@@marigold6920 She inherited a company, she was made to run it, she didn't work hard for it. It is like saying Ivana Trump was a successful business woman. Actually Ivana had more merit than Edith, because she really came from trash. But Edidth was a spoiled brat who married well like most women coming from this background and went from getting money from daddy to getting money from hubby ! Not exactly an achievement. Sybil did far more for herself . And reporting about people's life is being a papz. Whether you report what a mega conglomerate does or who some celebrity slept with, it is exactly the same. That's why mega conglomerate buy the press.
Edith really came into her own when she became a journalist. I love her character development in this series!
I would love to have seen a spin off series of moving to London and running the magazine
Yet they took her backwards in the end
she's a soursop
@@TinaButcher-r6mshe still owns the place
The scene where Bertie and Edith stay up all night to finish the magazine was definitely one of my favorite moments from their relationship. They really were made for each other.
It's also one of my favorites. I wish someone would post clips of Edith and Bertie at Brancaster Castle when they first meet and spend time with each other.
I like that he showed he could respect and support her as a business person - not just expect her to toss it all away to marry him.
Weren’t they just. I love Bertie and Edith.
Also showed his kindness and flexibility. So good her happy ending was him.
Her: I can’t lead a purposeless life- what a great thing to say. And for him to say he admires.
Genuinely one of my favorite storylines of the series. Once she's fully in control of the publishing, she really does come into her own and really finds her footing in the world!
Same. It was so good.
"You inspire me."
I love how Bertie doesn't try to hide his affection toward Lady Edith. 💘💘💘💘
It’s gorgeous 🥰
You left out the scene when she meets Bertie at the bar and he offers to return with her back to the office to make coffee, order sandwiches and carry bits of paper around. All in an effort to just be near her. 💖
I love that part!
@@ramandeepnijjar8281 Me too! She was ready to just walk away and get back to work. Yet without any hesitation, Bertie jumped in right behind her. That long night was their first date, sort of speak. 💜
Best scene ever!!!
I really admire the tiny moment of depth when they were getting the magazine edited and Edith was uncertain on the pictures to add.
A part of her was still an Earl's daughter- she was stewing over the guests ranks, whom to add and in what order based on social status. Bertie however took one look and understood that the purpose was to entertain and helped her to understand that she had absolute executive control of who made the paper and who didn't based on HER opinions of their fashion and importance.
He didn't take any of her agency, he simply reminded her that she held the keys to the kingdom.
This in turn shows them as a couple in a wonderful light. They weren't shrugging off or ignoring each other's mind- in fact their minds made them the best match
Excellent point that I had never considered. It’s truly what a partner should be. Someone who brings out the best in us and lets us do what we’re meant to do with gentle nudges.
I love how she also becomes the most stylish character
I love the clothes she wears at the magazine
So liked how the Crawley Women found their own establishments..Sybil with her Nursing Career..Mary Running The Crawley Estate for Little George...Edith with the Ownership/ Running of the Women's Magazine Publication as well as his Publishing Business..Cora taking over business affairs with the Downton Hospital..
I wish we could've saw Edith and Michael's relationship grow. It was cut so short. But Bertie is so sweet 💕
He was too old for her. Old enough to be her father. They made a big deal about Strallen being old enough to be her father, but Gregson was only a few years younger. He still had 20 years on her. Of course, I mean the actors who played the characters. Bertie was the same generation as Edith, only a couple of years older.
@@peachygal4153 Edith liked older men 🤣
"I wish we could've saw Edith and Michael's relationship grow. "
And see them either stuck in Germany during the war or having to pull up stakes again in a few years? It was better for her in the end that the plan fell through.
@@reginabillotti Its a fictional show. Julianne Fellows could've had the script written so Michael lived. Maybe the actor (like Sybil and Matthew) wanted to do other things. At lease Edith ended up with Bertie 💕 So in the end, everything worked out 👍👍👍
We don't want another Charles and Diana the age difference would be too tragic.
Edith always really shone and stood out when she found a purpose that suited her. When she learnt how to drive, when she drove the tractor for the Drakes, when she was assisting with the soldiers, becoming a journalist. Definitely one of the better storylines in Downton Abbey
Seeing Edith in this light always makes me so happy. She’s brilliant when she’s in that studio.
I absolutely love Edith, she is fantastic. Her character growth is remarkable. I never liked Mary, and when Edith finally put Mary in her place. It was Gold.
Was it... MaryGold? 😉
I agree. I don't think Edith would have been able to stand up to Mary with force and conviction if she hadn't found her footing, her path and her confidence. With her being her own boss and with the stakes much higher, Edith could no longer just "settle" for whatever life would give her after Mary got her own.
@@veroniquelebeau2692 lol good one
Ah yes, the Jane Eyre Rochester crazy wife triangle. I'm glad Edith persevered through all of that and kept her sanity. Logic and reasoning is her strength.
Putting aside Lady Edith for the moment, I loved the reveal of Sprat at the end as Miss Jones. Simply Bananas!
After all if an earl's daughter can edit a magazine, why could a butler not be an agony aunt.
@@brontewcat "Agony Aunt"? I've not heard that before.
@@Robert08010 It's an old term for an advice column, often they specialize in certain things such as fashion, cooking, or other things that the public asks questions about, and the columnist responds.
@@cameron120587 New slang! Thank you. Is that a British expression?
@@Robert08010 Della Manley, the first recorded woman editor in Britain, began a gossip sheet in 1709, the Female Tattler, which included advice to readers, making her the first Agony Aunt. Her advice column approach was soon mimicked in the Female Spectator, a women's magazine launched by Eliza Haywood.[4]
I love Lady Edith and her whole story. But it's funny that she says she finds a married man flirting with her "repugnant", when just a few years earlier, she flirted and kissed the married farmer while she worked with him. Perhaps it shows just how much her character grew and matured. 🙂🌹
People do strange things in wartime. Plus, she'd been drinking.
Her role in life was to be nothing more than a wife and brood mare
I was looking for this comment. 👍
She was more immature then and that man was just a farmer. She didn't expect to marry him and he didn't have the power to trash her reputation.
Gregson is a gentleman with some wealth and she likes him more than just "a fling". She is looking for a husband at this time and she hoped he was a bachelor. You can see her disappointment and rage when she finds out otherwise. She's not looking to become his mistress, she's looking for a good marriage match.
The Dowager's Butler got wind of Lady Edith as a hapless editor in London. He heard about it, and knew it was his opportunity to get his advice column also into the magazine.
"I refuse to be defeated by a petulant, and overweight tyrant!"
Came into the comments to give this line a shoutout!
@@PetWessman Thanks 👍🏾
I looooove Lady edith. Lady Mary just annoyed me. But Edith was so relatable and just imagine being in that office with a Woman Owner, Woman Editor and a woman secretary. Must have been so much fun and a joy.
The transition after "I'll write a novel" is spot on 2:12 😁
In the 1880s, Elders & Fyffes started importing bananas to the UK from the Canary Islands through Southampton Docks. The trade grew and from the 1930s, millions of bananas were imported to Southampton from the Caribbean in specially-built ships.
It`s very sad that who ever put this vid together cut out the Moment when Berti says I can make Coffe and fetch Sandwiches.
I loved that scene so much.
Okay, but in anyway, thank you for upload
This video is focused on her career as a journalist/editor. The scene you refer to is better in a compilation of their relationship.
I think all of us who have worked in small business have had those "all nighter" kind of evenings.
In the end, Edith found happiness - an interesting job, beloved children and - as a bonus - a husband with a peerage even surpassed her father. But she also had to learn the hard way to be honest. And her Bertie had to learn to assert herself against his mother and also to admit that it wasn't so easy for Edith to stand by Marigold. I hope, Edith and Bertie's luck also survived the Second World War, which the 20th century still has in store.
Oh Michael you were so loved ❤
The in unison “bananas” still sends me into laughter even today. My god I love this show!!
Hey becoming a business owner was necessary to this character and I'm so glad this happened for Edith.
And she can drive!
Glad she signed it. And inherited his business.
Bravo Bravo Lady Edith
Yes, I love that Edith is going back into journalism. I know many loved her fairy tale ending in the series and I was happy she found Bertie; but people forget it was Mary who wanted to marry a title. Edith only a husband who wanted her and not Mary. She was even willing to settle for Strallen to get that. I liked she found she liked writing and made a life for herself post Strallen and then post Gregson. I hated she had to give that up because Bertie suddenly inherited a title from a cousin who should have been too young to be dying. I know many complained she was ungrateful because she wanted Bertie with her when their baby was born; but Edith had to have Marigold without Gregson, so I got it. I really wish Fellowes had left him a land agent. I thought it silly other fans were happy Edith outranked Mary as if Edith had one upped her. Edith never wanted to out rank her, she only wanted a man who wanted her and not Mary. I found it a shame in the last movie Bertie's title would keep Edith from her magazine and keep him from her. The only time we saw her happy in 6 seasons was at that magazine.
You really should go see the new movie if you haven't already.
@@andreaplummer3841 I was just going to say that! She has an amazing life in the second movie.
She finally goes back to handling her magazine. It's all good in the end.
I Love Edith she is so cute 😍🥰
I thought Edith was stunning in this outfit. It's actually a fav from the whole show.
Incredibly inspiring!
How horrible that she's apprehensive about him going due to the fallout of WW1, when he's going to end up being murdered by the future instigators of WW2
Such a great storyline.
I completely forgot about Spratt.
Mr. Skinner sounds more like Mr. Steamer to me. His breathe is as loud as smoke coming out of a ship
Smoker, overweight yes he sounds like he’s about to have a heart attack!
Michael Gregson was the one. Too bad the actor couldn't stay on. We could have been spared the miserable Marigold/ Drewe family story.
Truth!
I somehow feel like Edith's character was given some of the ideal development for Sybil's character, which was sadly cut short.
I dont understand Mr Skinner's mentality, you dont like working for a women fine then just leave. Why do you choose to continue working for Edith and giving her half assed work and then accuse her of meddling ?? Did he expect them to just anyhow publish whatever he gave them ?
*for a WOMAN*
"Bananas!" 🍌
One of the best unexpected payoffs of the entire series 🤣🤣
Never cared much for Edith, but at least she wanted to be more than another member of a titled family. Not the norm for women in the 1920's.
It’s interesting how Edith tells Michael that the idea of a married man flirting with her is repugnant, but in series 2 we see her having an affair with the married farmer. This isn’t meant to be criticism but more so an observation in her growth as a character. Series 2 is an interesting one for Edith because we see her getting out of her comfort zone and do things that give her purpose. Perhaps the affair she had with the farmer was a manifestation of that desire to have purpose. Still, it’s interesting to see how her views on affairs changed and it says a lot about how much her time during the war, and being jilted at the alter, matured her for the better.
Edith never had an affair with the farmer, they just kissed each other once.
@@pinalimon they were having an emotional affair, but not physical.
Edith was breaking the rules of society by getting a job offering advice on social behavior and etiquette similar to Amy Vanderbilt.
Just realized Edith was dating Celebrimbor. Pity she never received a ring from him...
"The most hated race in Europe"
Good thing that the Americans took that trophy off our hands and went global with it... 👍
Joseph and today TV 😀
This was too sad the man got killed like that but honestly they had just gotten out of a war with Germany and you'd have thought anyone would have checked on thebstate if things over there before going. This was a hard plot to swallow
This was a world where good information about what was happening in other countries, even in your own country, was hard to come by. You are applying standards of the internet age to the 1920s, a hundred years ago. How was he supposed to "check" before going?
@@ssansu Idk I guess the same way they kept getting letters form other counties and newspapers telling what was happening abroad. Like how they hire a man to go look for dead people in India and Germany. They can hire a dude to go check.. Derp
How was he supposed to? There's no internet, radio news wouldn't be common place until after 1926, and you can hardly explain the complex status of a post war nation over telegram.
@@jazzycat8917 I already answered that question. They hired multiple people to go to Germany and check on the man's whereabouts soooo someone could have been hired to check on conditions in Germany. Heck they even had men searching India like a detective to find out what happened to one of the heirs to the fortune Michael inherited
@@jazzycat8917 I already answered that question. They hired multiple people to go to Germany and check on the man's whereabouts soooo someone could have been hired to check on conditions in Germany. Heck they even had men searching India like a detective to find out what happened to one of the heirs to the fortune Michael inherited
She didn't mind that the farmer was married when she was kissing him in the barn.
Well she was younger then. It’s been many years between that and this
Bananas indeed!
So sad that they decided to do a U turn and take her backwards to be nothing more than a wife
I never liked Gregson for Edith. He was married. Even though his wife was mentally ill. All he could give her was a city hall wedding.
🙂💙
Edith falls in love with any man very easily
Well we were all young and a bit naive and yes a bit stupid. We're you not??
Like meee. 😂😂😂
Good thing about falling in love quickly, I can fall out of love just as quickly.
Now that's quite funny. I do like Edith's woman's lib world and views.
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@@l.a.3479 Sorry. I only have my phone, and fat fingers. Sometimes I miss the letter that I actually want.
4:50 Lady Edith typewriting...very unlikely!...
Well she could also drive during that era.......not unlikely.
I disliked Edith but I liked this for her. I liked her fashion choices too…what I found funny was the first line of the video…did you forget you kissed and flirted with Mr Drake, a married man also?
Jacinda 🩷🩷🩷🩷🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
Lord Celebrimbor
Unwise straight to put one female in mental jail to credit other.
This is the last career anyone who enjoys leaking so many personal information about one's own sister and family should ever choose. Actually i am wrong, this is exactly and precisely a career for this kind of person, although it is not called being a journalist, it is called being a paparazzo. Nothing to be proud of.
Actually, it was journalism and not paparazzo. She did not go chasing people around with a camera uninvited in those days.
Also for Edith to successfully run a magazine as a woman in those days was a tremendous achievement.
As for the letter that she wrote to the Turkish Embassy, she was seventeen yrs old at that time. Also the letter was written after she had endured bullying from Mary her whole life. Yes it was a mistake but she was still in her teens.
You have zero emotional understanding and absolutely no understanding of the times that Edith was living in.
@@marigold6920 She inherited a company, she was made to run it, she didn't work hard for it. It is like saying Ivana Trump was a successful business woman. Actually Ivana had more merit than Edith, because she really came from trash. But Edidth was a spoiled brat who married well like most women coming from this background and went from getting money from daddy to getting money from hubby ! Not exactly an achievement. Sybil did far more for herself .
And reporting about people's life is being a papz. Whether you report what a mega conglomerate does or who some celebrity slept with, it is exactly the same. That's why mega conglomerate buy the press.
Idk. Is a wealthy person doing a hobby job really inspiring?
It was to Bertie, because he was in love with her. You're overthinking it.
A woman working in that era was bizarre anyway.
@@harveyspecter1855not really! Working women since WW1
@@fayesouthall6604woman with a title and being part of the peerage working wasn’t a thing back then