All the DC fans defending this movie lose the only leg they have to stand on when they try and call marvel movies garbage. It's like watching a mother with a delinquent child who swears her child can do no wrong criticising an honor student for shabby work.
And they always have the same shitty arguments too. They say the plots are too simple as if that's what makes a movie bad. Movies like Die hard and plenty of other legendary movies have very simple plots. It''s like DC fans don't even know how to critique movies.
kronos1794 Marvel ruined the Mandarin and Baron Zemo, but DC ruined Doomsday, so they both suck in that regard. And I think everything DC has done since The Dark Knight, has been trash. Even Marvel movies aren't perfect. Iron Man 2 is trash, Thor 2 is trash, Iron Man 3 is trash, and Age of Ultron was meh. Their Netflix shows are VASTLY superior to those movies they make.
ViralHero Baron Zemo was never a great villain to begin with and Mandarin was at best an ok villain. Zemo was always just a poor man's Red Skull which is why he's always been overshadowed by him.
best damn review i've heard. anybody think dc will try to pull a X-men days of future past with the flash film and change all of the shit they thrown at us so far?
this was a fun movie I hated that they did the Joker again, leave Heath's version alone! but I enjoyed the cast here, the action, and the interconnectedness of the DCEU
Question about the rating system... Korey said they can't have them kill people because it's pg13, but what about movies like Taken that are pg13? Liam N must kill 40 people in that movie. How are they able to get the pg13 rating?
I agree with Martin I didn't care for Margot Robbie's performance or her stupid accent.Next time just cast an American actress who can do it without feeling so forced.
John Avenger You sound like you're not too familiar with the character of Harley Quinn. The only way you could fail a performance of Harley is if you were to be too serious. She's an over-the-top character, and I feel that Margot nailed that aspect of the character. Plus, who else would've played her?
StarWarsSoph she's a overtop character yes but she isn't a crack head she actually has some sense in her and can be serious Margo Robbie could have done it right but the problem was the director and writers were idiots and fucked her character and personality up badly like holy shit
"He shot a rat" and like...20 guys. some of which could have been friends-of-friends and not bad guys...okay yeah still doesn't bother me that much you're right Martin.
weird bvs killed too people while suicide squad killed too little people. What is wrong with this dcu. I mean Arrow universe suicide squad killed more than they do.
They lack what Disney has with Marvel, a good relationship. They don't trust the writers and filmmakers enough to do their job, because they're trying too hard to be like Marvel. They keep interfering, which is what caused the disaster that was Fantastic Four 2016. They didn't learn from Fox. They're trying too hard , and that's why the films suffer. WB just can't seem to balance tone and character depth.
MrAlcazar Agree someone who thinks Marvel Studios are overated, watching Suicide Squad made realize again why they are doing a decent job. DC need to work on their scripts doesn't matter what tone they have
Temujin18S Exactly! The flaws are in the writing. They made Lex Luthor look like the Riddler and The Joker, and failed miserably at being either. Jessie Eisenberg is a good actor, but they made him look so silly, it was embarrassing.
just got to point this out. during the timeline of this movie. supermen was 9 feet under. combine that with the fact that they dont want to use the justice league. as not only dose this lead to problems down the line. as governments begin to lose more and more credibility. as they are unable to maintain order or deal with these threats. this also could lead to hero worship. treating these people as if they were gods among men. and in reality what chance dose anyone has against them? what would happen if justice league decided to declare war in order to save mankind. to save them from themselves. this is why they would never call superman. this is why they would never support the justice league. as they are the greatest threat to freedom and justice. as well as being the greatest ally to freedom and justice. aka the ultimate double edge sword. and in then end would you support your own nation or a group of super human gods in tight?
they did believe it or not. in fact it was one of the first things said. as they gave the what if question." what if super man flew over the oval office. and decided to ripoff the roof and take the president" a valid question, if superman, batman, or any of these so called herons decided to go rouge. how would you be able to defeat them? further more they are building an army. only creating more and more tension. as what if the justice league decided that the us government was the bad guy?
Personally I like this movie. It's not better than the dark knight or watchmen but it is better than BvS and man of steel. But korey keeps blaming the director and the writers and while it is partially their fault, it's mostly the fault of the studio and the producers. They are the ones who caused all the re shoots and re writes. But korey is to ignorant and hot headed to realize that shit.
It's not better than either Man of Steel or BvS. Also the directing weren't even that great so i don't know why you're trying to give the director a pass.
cjtier Erm no, the directing in general is mediocre. I was not just referring to the scenes that are very obvious reshoots, i was referring to most of the film. Also the reason the writting is weak is because they had such a short time to even write the movie, if anything the rewrites probably saved the movie from being even worse.
Super Saiyan Goddess Man of Steel is literally the comic book version of 9/11, and BvS is a suicide-inducing, overblown, somber, excuse for a children's comic book movie it was advertised as. Sorry, but Suicide Squad is exactly what it was advertised as, but slightly worse. For that reason, I was entertained watching it, and didn't get depressed like I did watching BvS. That movie sucked the joy from my soul.
I will GLADLY take suicide squad over iron man 2, iron man 3, thor 2, Avengers 2 even Dead pool which to me is overrated ( admit it, you take away all of the one liners, what else is so special bout that movie?)
I agree with you that this might be better than those (except DP because I fucking love that) and damn it I supported this and BvS but you gotta agree with one truth: WB suits and ties only care about cash. I love DC but it hurts to be a fan and to support this when the WB greed and short cutting is ruining our fun. Just as when BvS could have just done good with doing a live action adaptation of The Dark Knight Returns part 1&2 this could have just done great with Assault on Arkham. It could have been interesting to see some solo flicks with the characters they got on here and the background on em is good movie material but is admittedly risky given how WB suits look at money. It makes me sad and I dunno if I wanna go watch Justice League after this T..T
chriskoob Someday wanna see a literal Marvel x DC movie because I used to have some awesome trading cards where a longhair rad as fuck superman squaring off with the hulk and juggernaut as ridiculous and hopeless as that might sound. Imagine all the inter-dimentional mishap and fun we can get with all mind fuckery if we get a Secretwars x Flashpoint plot mash! I guess I got a bit too spoiled by Banpresto the only company that's been able to make an epic and arguably logical plot mash up out of all the robot shows from my child hood damn it japan you make me so jealous sometimes with all your cool cross over lenience.
Gem Bocobo John campa made a valid point as to why you wont see wolverine in an avengers movie which would also speak to why you will almost never see a DC vs Marvel film, if fox made a deal to allow wolverine in an avengers movie, fox is gonna be standing over marvel's shoulder making sure wolverine gets the best lines, looks the most heroic and is a total bad ass, at the expense of the established avengers members. lets say you tried to keep it simple and just have a film where Iron Man and Batman meet, sure on paper it sounds like a hit, but whose gonna direct it? a marvel guy or a warner bros guy? whose doing the script? who gets the best lines? who saves the day? it doesnt matter that if done right u have the potential for the biggest grossing film ever, warner and disney will never be able to get out of the way of their own egos to do something like that right
This is the best DC film so far for me. The others aren't great. Man Of Steel sucked. Batman Vs. Superman was alright, not great. Marvels films mostly suck. I enjoy Age Of Ultron, (aside from the lame Hawkeye crap scenes,) I still think it's great. and Guardians are their best films. Winter Soldier sucked and VERY overrated. It's boring and dumb, Civil War was just overrated and too BORING. Airport fight scene was decently good and somewhat funny with Spiderman. Ant Man and Doctor Strange suck and are overrated and lame, I didn't see them but I saw clips and reviews and they suck. So DC is so far beating Marvel's ass. Wonder Woman might not be my type of film, I didn't see it but I think it might not be my type of film. But until then I'll have to wait to see it if I hate it or like it.
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All the DC fans defending this movie lose the only leg they have to stand on when they try and call marvel movies garbage. It's like watching a mother with a delinquent child who swears her child can do no wrong criticising an honor student for shabby work.
And they always have the same shitty arguments too. They say the plots are too simple as if that's what makes a movie bad. Movies like Die hard and plenty of other legendary movies have very simple plots. It''s like DC fans don't even know how to critique movies.
kronos1794 Marvel ruined the Mandarin and Baron Zemo, but DC ruined Doomsday, so they both suck in that regard. And I think everything DC has done since The Dark Knight, has been trash. Even Marvel movies aren't perfect. Iron Man 2 is trash, Thor 2 is trash, Iron Man 3 is trash, and Age of Ultron was meh. Their Netflix shows are VASTLY superior to those movies they make.
ViralHero Baron Zemo was never a great villain to begin with and Mandarin was at best an ok villain. Zemo was always just a poor man's Red Skull which is why he's always been overshadowed by him.
@@ViralHero Zemo was used brilliantly in Civil War. They dont always need to resemble their CB counterparts to be great all the time
17:56, THANK YOU!!! I got flashbacks of Gods of Egypt.
best damn review i've heard. anybody think dc will try to pull a X-men days of future past with the flash film and change all of the shit they thrown at us so far?
Jesus christ the flash picture still isn't out
7 years later lol. The end of the universe
Jared Leto said that they cut most of his scenes out. Cause from what I saw, I actually kept forgetting he was still in this movie.
I was deeply disappointed with this movie, but TSS was excellent.
I actually dug this movie. It wasn't good by any means, but I had fun with it.
ViralHero you would
41:37 to 41:43, that was hilarious!
Suicide Squad was better than BvS (Theatrical Cut )That's all I can say. I give It a Rental
8 years later same thing with kill the justice league
Captain Boomerang threw 4 boomerangs actually.
this was a fun movie
I hated that they did the Joker again, leave Heath's version alone!
but I enjoyed the cast here, the action, and the interconnectedness of the DCEU
Question about the rating system... Korey said they can't have them kill people because it's pg13, but what about movies like Taken that are pg13? Liam N must kill 40 people in that movie. How are they able to get the pg13 rating?
Cool name, dude.
I agree with Martin I didn't care for Margot Robbie's performance or her stupid accent.Next time just cast an American actress who can do it without feeling so forced.
You might wanna rephrase that. Cause the you're saying it makes it sound kinda racist.
29AndreG Not liking an actors accent is racist?
John Avenger You sound like you're not too familiar with the character of Harley Quinn. The only way you could fail a performance of Harley is if you were to be too serious. She's an over-the-top character, and I feel that Margot nailed that aspect of the character. Plus, who else would've played her?
StarWarsSoph she's a overtop character yes but she isn't a crack head she actually has some sense in her and can be serious Margo Robbie could have done it right but the problem was the director and writers were idiots and fucked her character and personality up badly like holy shit
29AndreG excuse me what that legitimately makes no fucking sense
I had high hopes for this movie.
30:50 to 31:30, Like I said, it's Warner Bros. They've been doing stereotypes for decades.
30:00
"He shot a rat" and like...20 guys. some of which could have been friends-of-friends and not bad guys...okay yeah still doesn't bother me that much you're right Martin.
I'm surprised you guys didn't mention how they wasted Common's time in this.
where did this story fit in with whatever DC is trying to do?
basically the after credit scene was the only thing that fit in with where DC is going with this
How do you hate the name enchantress. Lol
Watching this movie reminded me of watching Danielle on the drunk show, CRINGE!
Wait what drunk show?
you don't know?
doubletoasted.com/show/subscriber-exclusive-the-double-toasted-drunk-show/
it says I can't purchase it anymore.
it's subscriber exclusive
Yes, it's too to reboot it. Reboot it now, it'll be like The Amazing Spider-Man all over again.
weird bvs killed too people while suicide squad killed too little people. What is wrong with this dcu.
I mean Arrow universe suicide squad killed more than they do.
They lack what Disney has with Marvel, a good relationship. They don't trust the writers and filmmakers enough to do their job, because they're trying too hard to be like Marvel. They keep interfering, which is what caused the disaster that was Fantastic Four 2016. They didn't learn from Fox. They're trying too hard , and that's why the films suffer. WB just can't seem to balance tone and character depth.
MrAlcazar Agree someone who thinks Marvel Studios are overated, watching Suicide Squad made realize again why they are doing a decent job.
DC need to work on their scripts doesn't matter what tone they have
Temujin18S
Exactly! The flaws are in the writing. They made Lex Luthor look like the Riddler and The Joker, and failed miserably at being either. Jessie Eisenberg is a good actor, but they made him look so silly, it was embarrassing.
15:11 to 15:34, well it is Warner Bros that's making these movies. They're known to be racist.
2016 has not been a good year for Will Smith and this movie is no exception.
Cara Delevinge is 2/3. She's been in two I've seen and she played characters I never cared about.
MadCap Productions You mean Rooney Mara?
MadCap Productions Oh, well I didn't actually finish the movie, I thought it was some ol' bullshit. I thought you meant Tiger Lily, my bad!
I mean cara delevinge is actually a 15/10 but the character is -1/10.
just got to point this out. during the timeline of this movie. supermen was 9 feet under. combine that with the fact that they dont want to use the justice league. as not only dose this lead to problems down the line. as governments begin to lose more and more credibility. as they are unable to maintain order or deal with these threats. this also could lead to hero worship. treating these people as if they were gods among men. and in reality what chance dose anyone has against them? what would happen if justice league decided to declare war in order to save mankind. to save them from themselves.
this is why they would never call superman. this is why they would never support the justice league. as they are the greatest threat to freedom and justice. as well as being the greatest ally to freedom and justice. aka the ultimate double edge sword. and in then end would you support your own nation or a group of super human gods in tight?
if the movie explained rhis then maybe this would be true but it didnt so
they did believe it or not. in fact it was one of the first things said. as they gave the what if question." what if super man flew over the oval office. and decided to ripoff the roof and take the president" a valid question, if superman, batman, or any of these so called herons decided to go rouge. how would you be able to defeat them? further more they are building an army. only creating more and more tension. as what if the justice league decided that the us government was the bad guy?
Why is this AUDIO?!
There is a video review, but it's edited down.
Personally I like this movie. It's not better than the dark knight or watchmen but it is better than BvS and man of steel. But korey keeps blaming the director and the writers and while it is partially their fault, it's mostly the fault of the studio and the producers. They are the ones who caused all the re shoots and re writes. But korey is to ignorant and hot headed to realize that shit.
That's korey for you
It's not better than either Man of Steel or BvS. Also the directing weren't even that great so i don't know why you're trying to give the director a pass.
Maybe cause the studios made them do reshoots. Plus I can't think of any positives for either of those movies.
cjtier Erm no, the directing in general is mediocre. I was not just referring to the scenes that are very obvious reshoots, i was referring to most of the film. Also the reason the writting is weak is because they had such a short time to even write the movie, if anything the rewrites probably saved the movie from being even worse.
Super Saiyan Goddess Man of Steel is literally the comic book version of 9/11, and BvS is a suicide-inducing, overblown, somber, excuse for a children's comic book movie it was advertised as. Sorry, but Suicide Squad is exactly what it was advertised as, but slightly worse. For that reason, I was entertained watching it, and didn't get depressed like I did watching BvS. That movie sucked the joy from my soul.
Im so sick of will smith
High rental.
I will GLADLY take suicide squad over iron man 2, iron man 3, thor 2, Avengers 2 even Dead pool which to me is overrated ( admit it, you take away all of the one liners, what else is so special bout that movie?)
Wtf, i didnt see the others but deadpool was dope af
thank u deadpool was overrated cuz why they said fuck DT sucks
I agree with you that this might be better than those (except DP because I fucking love that) and damn it I supported this and BvS but you gotta agree with one truth: WB suits and ties only care about cash. I love DC but it hurts to be a fan and to support this when the WB greed and short cutting is ruining our fun. Just as when BvS could have just done good with doing a live action adaptation of The Dark Knight Returns part 1&2 this could have just done great with Assault on Arkham. It could have been interesting to see some solo flicks with the characters they got on here and the background on em is good movie material but is admittedly risky given how WB suits look at money. It makes me sad and I dunno if I wanna go watch Justice League after this T..T
chriskoob Someday wanna see a literal Marvel x DC movie because I used to have some awesome trading cards where a longhair rad as fuck superman squaring off with the hulk and juggernaut as ridiculous and hopeless as that might sound. Imagine all the inter-dimentional mishap and fun we can get with all mind fuckery if we get a Secretwars x Flashpoint plot mash! I guess I got a bit too spoiled by Banpresto the only company that's been able to make an epic and arguably logical plot mash up out of all the robot shows from my child hood damn it japan you make me so jealous sometimes with all your cool cross over lenience.
Gem Bocobo John campa made a valid point as to why you wont see wolverine in an avengers movie which would also speak to why you will almost never see a DC vs Marvel film, if fox made a deal to allow wolverine in an avengers movie, fox is gonna be standing over marvel's shoulder making sure wolverine gets the best lines, looks the most heroic and is a total bad ass, at the expense of the established avengers members.
lets say you tried to keep it simple and just have a film where Iron Man and Batman meet, sure on paper it sounds like a hit, but whose gonna direct it? a marvel guy or a warner bros guy? whose doing the script? who gets the best lines? who saves the day? it doesnt matter that if done right u have the potential for the biggest grossing film ever, warner and disney will never be able to get out of the way of their own egos to do something like that right
This is the best DC film so far for me. The others aren't great. Man Of Steel sucked. Batman Vs. Superman was alright, not great. Marvels films mostly suck. I enjoy Age Of Ultron, (aside from the lame Hawkeye crap scenes,) I still think it's great. and Guardians are their best films. Winter Soldier sucked and VERY overrated. It's boring and dumb, Civil War was just overrated and too BORING. Airport fight scene was decently good and somewhat funny with Spiderman. Ant Man and Doctor Strange suck and are overrated and lame, I didn't see them but I saw clips and reviews and they suck. So DC is so far beating Marvel's ass. Wonder Woman might not be my type of film, I didn't see it but I think it might not be my type of film. But until then I'll have to wait to see it if I hate it or like it.
ramon baugh who cares?
ramon baugh idiot lol