Eastman’s bogus historical claims
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ต.ค. 2024
- Harry talks with Matthew Seligman, fellow at the Constitutional Law Center at Stanford Law School, who was an expert witness, at the request of the California bar, in the recent disciplinary hearing against John Eastman, which concluded with a recommendation that Eastman be disbarred. Seligman undertook a historical analysis of Eastman’s claim that his theory - which in brief was that Vice President Pence was constitutionally empowered to determine the winner of the 2020 election - and found it to be utterly lacking any historical evidence, while the view that Pence did not have the power has strong roots in American constitutional practice. After explaining why Eastman’s theory was meritless, Seligman goes on to identify different, and less ham-handed, possible risks for a hijacking of the upcoming presidential election.
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Please stop interrupting the speaker. He's trying to tell a story and you are breaking his story up. It makes the story harder for us to follow. Please read the rest of these comments. It will help you grow your channel please don't be offended we are all trying to help.
Wow, interrupt the F out of him why don't you.
Harry, you need him back and let him talk uninterrupted, please and let him speak all of his knowledge and experience. Thank you are great. 😊
I came here to say this same thing. So frustrating.
Same here.
Oh thank God I’m so glad I’m not the only one! 🫢
Absolutely!!
Yeah. On the third interruption, I turned it off. I like Harry, but this is rude and breaks concentration.
The most important part of this is the end where Seligman talks about State Legislatures doing their own version of this again - we are not out of the woods.
Nor are we out of the woods should Trump lose solidly 2024. We'll still have dysfunctional members of congress and senate, A Russian infection in both media and political parties, one party in dire need of rehabilitation - which could be a long process if it even gets started, a hugely apathetic public that's uneducated about government and their role in it, another portion of the public that's seeking some kind of savior, and another that's willing to engage a violent purpose in their lives. There is a lot to be done.
Yes, that sounds the most risk and, as AIUI Seligman stresses it would be entirely legal and constitutional. So why won't they use it? Of course they will - imo.
@@mjinba07 Well said
Harry, Luv it. Great show. When it comes to the historical, it's nice to hear from experts.
A joy to listen to this expert. Clearspoken and learned.
Littmann should shut up and let his guests speak
Great discussion Harry. Always enjoy listening to your podcast & also when you are on with Ben of the MTN! 👍 ❤️
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Terrific interview. Thank you! Vote Blue 💙🇺🇸💙
Bring seligman back pls. Excellent episode.
Very interesting! It’s appalling that even if disbarred in California, Eastman could still apply to practice in other states. He was at the core of the coup attempt and should be held accountable.
Don’t other states recognize disbarment in reciprocity?
@@gene8172 : good question, and I hope it’s answered by someone who knows. IANAL, and my brief searches on this question were inconclusive. I speculate that not all states would respond the same way to disbarment in another jurisdiction. I’d be surprised if all automatically blocked disbarred lawyers from other states. But as I said, I hope someone who knows about this posts.
Let’s see - what states might not support reciprocity!
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@@paleggett1897 :yes, exactly. And he’s probably considered a hero by many there.
What a thorough overview. Thank you and Mr. Seligman for working your ways through this.
This conversation was Fascinating!!!! Thank You!!!!
Thanks Harry. Love these discussions!
VOTE BLUE
Good deep dive. Thank you, Harry.
Perfect example of why we as viewers enjoy this channel.
A lot of holes need to be mended. Great explanations. Thank you.
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"Interesting but horrifying" really sums up the whole Trump era
Great Explanation for us non lawyers. Thank you both 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Mr Seligman has a very good, extended discussion on this on the Lawfare podcast a few months back.
Will be looking up that podcast. Thanks for the referral! 😊
How do we eradicate the darned gerrymandering?
With a democratic house and Senate pass the voting rights act.
Wow, that was informative! As always, thanks a million for your excellent show and your fabulous guest. 😀
Would love to hear more from Matthew Seligman, uninterrupted. Matthew, a teacher himself was continually interrupted and his train of thought derailed. This was frustrating.
And his frustration showed. Good on him for keeping it under control.
Wonderful interview. Thank you Harry.
This is fascinating, thank you for bringing us these insights into the legal fockery of TFG. 💙
With all these brainy people around, for so long, and so perceptive, how do you Americans end up in such a mess with your legal system and democracy?
Apathy, and a long history of misplaced trust in the systems. The result being, “all men are NOT created equal”, and, that our judicial process, and the judiciary, must be scrutinized and overhauled.
An excellent question. As a lifetime 'mericano I'd say: the Citizens United SCOTUS decision that *donations to politicians of any amount* from corporations is just free speech.
Dark money - which is just what it sounds like.
And the racist/religious right - through financial "lobbying in the millions of$" pushing us to be a one religion born again nation.
Sitting on the COMFY COUCH for entertainment purposes....... Remember Iraq? 2 decades b4 WMDs and mushroom clouds war ended.
Silence IS complicity!
We the PEOPLE sounds good 🤭
The brainy are out numbered by the unbrainy.
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tRUMP says, "My (MOB) guys will take care of it".
God help us all! Especially our grandkids! 😮
Stop cutting him off Harry
Harry, stop interrupting!! Let the man speak.
Yes, I just posted about that!!!
It's maddeningly ANNOYING
Does not bother me at all. Harry is asking important clarifying questions that I find extremely useful and pertinent. I’m not a legal professional and understood this topic with this interview. Vote Blue💙🇺🇸💙
Harry does interrupt a lot. Then again, it's his channel...
excellent interview, Harry..thank you Mathew.
This reminds me when Paul Shaffer met with Donald Fagen to “discuss” Steely Dan which quickly became a ‘Music-Minus-1’ interview.
Very informative as always! Thank you.
Thanks Harry
Excellent
I wish Harry would let him finish his points instead of always breaking in.
It’s a conversation!
@@gaypatterson4446 then he should wait until the sentence is finished.
No offense, but less interruptions would have helped.
Harry kudos for your guest, so knowable I could listen to him for hours 🎉🎉
Great talk. Great info
Harry, we know you are a brilliant lawyer. A very powerful and successful prosecutor. We suggest,with all due respect, that you get coached on the art and skills of interviewing cause you keep on interrupting your guest.Thank you, however , for this very informative podcast.
From one of your viewers Downunder
Excellent video, thanks
Great discussion! Thank you 🇺🇸
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Little hard to follow the guest with the interruptions…
Thanks Harry and Mr. Seligman! Please help us non-lawyers stay free of fear of wild maga "attorneys" running around the country to practice law.
Does a "permanent disbarment" in California mean ONLY that Eastman is not permitted to practice law in California?
Or does that judgment bar him from practicing law anywhere else? He may be permitted in some states?
Harry, I love you to pieces as a presenter and legal analyst, etc, and your channel is very valuable to me-as I’m sure it is to everyone else here-but PLEASE please please: STOP interrupting your guests so much.
When you do that, it becomes extremely hard to follow them…especially at a moment when one is hanging on their every word, b/c they’re *just* about to get to a really interesting point/conclusion.
When someone interrupts them at that moment, it is extremely frustrating and jarring. Thank you, apologies for being frank/direct but you seem like a reasonable person so I imagine you can. welcome constructive feedback.🙏🏼
Would anyone really be surprised if Arizona, a state where the Supreme Court has upheld an 1864 pre-statehood ban against abortion, would independent of how the voters in the state actually voted? it certainly doesn’t seem to stretch the imagination very far when one looks at the reality of what Arizona Supreme Court has just done in the face of the reality that the vast majority of voters, including Republican voters do not support an absolute ban on abortion. There is real danger here and there’s real danger here for the Supreme Court. The judges currently sitting on the Supreme Court need to wake up and realize that they’re making themselves redundant if they continue to hold in favour of right conservative theories of the Constitution, the law and democracy.
Great Interview. This guest was Brilliant
Montesquieu notes in 'The Spirit of the Law" that a Republic rests upon the willingness of individuals to tell the truth under oath. It's ok to start worrying now.
Loved it !!!!!!!!!!!!
Gentlemen, thank you for sharing your work with us, here. What you do is important.
Impulse control, please
I know 😅
Poor Harry😢😢😂😂😂
Excellent program! thanks for doing these types of podcasts!
Geezus, Harry, quit interrupting your guest!
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Great show and learning about all of the background information is great. Thanks.
What a fascinating conversation
I've not heard ipse dixit in 50 years. Carl, sitter and retired justice used to point at my mother and announce "Ipse dixit!" Whenever she tried "Because I said so!"
Thanks, great interview. Scary.
Thank you Harry.
Good discussion thanks.
thanks, Matthew Seligman
Really great episode Harry
Harry, let your guest talk.
Thank you!
Wow!!!!!! Good job Harry and Seligman
Interesting
Dear Harry,
Might I be so bold as to inquire as to why you constantly interrupt and interject when you have invited guests... distracting from the jist of what they'd been talking about.
If it's possible, PLEASE limit this practice as it breaks the concentration of the guests talk.
Thanks 😊
Totally agree. Harry ,stop interrupting, please. Thanks
This was way over my head
why do you talk over your one-on-one guests?
Oh please have Mathew back 🇺🇸
Thanks
Amazing content. Thankyou!
Wargames. This needs to be heeded by every level of government: local to state to federal. There are ways of breaking these systems, and there are ways of defending them.
one of your best
Harry you're fine, it's a conversation guys (including women) ! Give Harry a break!
stop cutting him off!
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spooky. thank you.
great video.
Look very carefully...and you csn see the highly controlled frustration by this guest from Harvard!!!
STOP INTERRUPTING!! What's wrong with you?
To the How do you let this happen? We get lazy. Especially if everybody feels good.
The legal basis was covered in season 5 of VEEP, where everything that can go wrong in picking the President does go wrong.
I give up. Too many interruptions
I wanted to know why Matthew has signed on to Judge Cannon's case this past 2 weeks! I'm glad he did, but wondering.....
hey harry
interrupt less, listen more, please
Who wrote the 2004 Law Review article?
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I'll start with this wow I really enjoy history but you guys really laid it out today extremely great podcast I don't say this very often but I definitely give you guys six stars a lot of research went into this thank you for the class education I really enjoyed it I may have to watch it a couple more times so I can pass the test but definitely enjoyed this podcast one of your better thank you
Thomas and Alito are lawless, so what would Eastman learn as a Thomas clerk?
Harry, let the man finish a sentence!
Mr Litman, I like your channel and generally watch your videos to the end but your constant interrupting this guest was very disrupting. So much so I quit viewing about 1/4 of the way through.
Me too.
Stop interrupting, please.
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Have people in this comments section never had a conversation? It’s not like, a perfectly, flawless exchange where nobody interrupts each other lol
Too many interuptions by Harry.
Some commenters are complaining about Harry interrupting. I see it more like an actual conversation. He isn't being rude. He's asking for clarification or interjecting things people like me wouldn't know. Mr. Seligman doesn't seem irritated.
Try grilling with a neighbor when you are known for one food and the neighbor is known for something else. Would you not ask questions? Not just what is different but why.
I think that's right and Harry has a way of moving the conversation along and knows this particular person and knows that if left unchecked, the whole planned conversation would not be complete.
I agree. Also many times Harry is clarifying certain references and details. This helps me follow the information. I am not as Constitutionally familiar as these two gentlemen. GREAT DISCUSSION as always!!
I just love these kind of discussions! The first paper I wrote in college was an interpretation of the U.S. Constitution from a Marxist perspective, although I didn’t know at the time that that particular historian always did that. 😏
For an alternative view... I experienced Harry's interventions appropriate and useful. I would have found it a challenge listening to Matthew speaking non-stop, without Harry's input. In fact, I would have stopped listening.