I'm planning to buy my first motorcycle so I watch a lot of YT videos to gain basic knowledge. I think this video gives more knowledge and imagination to people like me - with no experience - than a dozen other videos about choosing a "beginner" motorcycle. Thank You!!!
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As a 50 year old who passed bike test at 23 but never owned a bike and now itching to get one but don't know where to start, this video explained everything so well that I haven't learned watching dozens of other videos!
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I actually recognize these roads in heathrow lake mary . If you ever see a Royal Enfield Hunter 350 around, that's me trying to keep up with traffic on my first bike lol! Actually survives ok for short stints on I-4 It's a shame no one considers the really slow bikes as a first bike. It makes riding within city limits really fun, revving out small engines to the max and taking turns really tightly lol
ive never riden a motorcycle before and dont know anybody who rides any but i have wanted one for several years now, ive narrowed it down to either the honda rebel 500, the kawasaki ninja 400, or the yamaha r3, i dont plan to try and go cross country anytime soon, just around town and to the next town over so these 3 suit my needs, torn between the 3 though as i like all of them
All i can tell you is that for around town and even the next town, the Rebel 500 would be the most comfortable. R3 is a great bike but the most uncomfortable between the 3 & this is coming from a sport bike rider.
So... Get a 400cc ish if you're not a bigger rider, 600cc ish if you're heavy or patient / disciplined enough to grow into the bike in the first place before starting to hammer it..? Than more cc only if you already have riding experience. Pretty sure that's the mid segment for me then. Question: when you say 'bigger bike' is that in terms of capabilities or fit? I'm 6'2 200lbs, well disciplined/patient, does that mean you recommend a mid segment bike to me?
That’s a pretty good summary of the video and yes, a 650cc may work for you. I would highly recommend going to a dealership and sitting on at least a naked bike and an adventure bike to see which one do you find more comfortable. I wouldn’t recommend a specific bike but i like that the Kawasaki 650 parallel twin engine is available in 4 styles - naked, sports, adventure and cruiser. Hope that helps.
@@RiderXp out of vanity I know I'm not riding an adventure bike as a first bike :). I don't like the look of them. Thanks for your recommendations though!
@RiderXP Ey thanks for recommending this video. While at work I ran into two moto riders and one had been riding for a month and first bike was a Duke 390. And spoke to another rider for about 5 secs in traffic on what he felt about the power to weight. Mind you he made sure to repeat he was on a Turbocharged 650? Wth is that a thing? Well lights turned green and he popped a wheely like it was the way to go lol. Am intrigued to say the least. I'm thinking something between the 300 to 650 range. I'm not really after too much pizazz. I just want to ride something comfortable that will push hard if needed on a motorway relatively safely. Something maintainable practical. Im still trying to understand what comfortable means in relation to posture though. But I was thinking potentially the Kawasaki Vulcan s(seems plain, simple and well made). The Benelli 500(curiosity) The Husqvarna svartpilen 401(that stock quick shifter lol)
I like that you're doing thorough due diligence before buying your first bike. That's puts you ahead of most people to begin with. I would respectfully ask you to ignore the turbo charger comment from that rider at the light, most likely it was a joke. To answer your specific questions about: 1- Power for practicality and safety- 300-400s have enough for someone to start on and be excited, have practical city and backroad capability. After about 80 - 90mph, they do start loosing steam, so for American or British highways, they sort of fall short. Wherever average highways speeds are lower, these bikes dominate over cars & other traffic. So if you are in an area where you'd need to pass cars doing 80mph to get out of the way quickly and safely, yes, a 650 makes more sense. They're usually twin Twin cylinders (which means more torque for lugging around in slow traffic but also an exciting quick response when picking up the throttle to break away from traffic). 2-Comfort- That depends on the type of riding. A lot of people find cruisers to be the most comfortable. The seating position is like your couch has two wheels now. Of course that's comfortable! I prefer standard naked bikes because the front wheel is closer to me and I feel more in control. Adventure (Dual Sport in US) or touring bikes enable a similar or slightly more comfortable riding position compared to a standard naked. They also have much better seat padding and rider comforts and adjustability to customize ergonomics. They often have a tall seat which is a challenge for riders who're 5' 7" - 5' 8" or below, especially if they are new. Hope this essay of a response helps you! :) Good luck! There are a bunch of videos about all of these types of motorcycles on the channel, you might want to dive in and can come back to me for questions. I'm happy to help. Cheers!
@@RiderXp awesome info and numbers I can actually work with. I'm in Australia. Our roads residentially are 50-60kph. Main roads 70 - 80kph and motorways anywhere between 60 on ramps and 80 -110kph on the mainlines. I'm a late bloomer to this and it's crazy how the interest evolved so quickly. I'll be booking a riding course shortly as is prescribed by law here before being able to sit for the theory test. Every time I think it's down to these bikes surely. I begin to notice a whole other group I've overlooked. Can I ask one last thing, are scramblers supposed to be a long trip comfortable ride? I have about a 80km daily round trip to do through a mix of motorway, residential, industrial and urban city streets, peak and off peak times. I don't want to speed, I'm just looking to have the power needed to as you said get out of the way when needed. Your information was great thank you, and thanks for taking the time out to relay all of that!
@@yingyangorca4124 Ok, now I know the context better, thank you. My understanding is that Australia requires you to start on a LAMS bike anyway, so that's a great safety net to begin with. 300-400s can do 110-130 KPH but beyond that they lose steam. If that's all you're looking for, they'll work, will be cheaper to buy, better on fuel efficiency, simpler and easier to maintain. About scramblers - they're supposed to have similar ergos to a naked bike, plus have some off-road riding capability (gravel roads, dirt trails, bad/broken roads etc., not full-on rocks or forest). That off-road capability aspect requires better more versatile suspension ('Versatile suspension' is the most difficult thing to manufacture and achieve). So that costs more money and therefore, smaller cheaper bikes that claim to be 'scramblers' are actually just naked bikes that look like scramblers. There are some exceptions though - Himalayan Scram 411 is actually a pretty capable small scrambler because of Royal Enfield's experience in India making motorcycles for all sorts of roads for over a century now. Husqvarna 401, isn't as capable for example. It's a good, fun bike, but not a capable scrambler. Having said that, it also boils down to the rider. I've ridden a sportbike for a 1600 kms challenge one time (Not an achievement - just me being young and dumb, would not recommend ha!ha!). I know people who have ridden scooters to the Himalayas. So can a naked be ridden for 80 kms everyday? Sure! Would it the most comfortable? Probably not! A tourer or a cruiser would be more comfortable, especially if the terrain changes like you mentioned. Look into small capacity adventure/touring bikes which will have comfort, cost effectiveness, range and enough power to cruise at 110-120KPM. Here's another video did about those a while ago - th-cam.com/video/nuRNmrUAqyM/w-d-xo.html. One last thing, the one learning from all of my riding experience is that touring motorcycles are the most practical, versatile motorcycles. They just can't win a beauty pageant where most motorcycle searches begin. Good luck and welcome to the fold, better late than never. :)
I keep thinking about upgrading, or whatever, my xsr900 every year or two. Never do. And while I have two other bikes, it’s still my go to favorite. Obviously to each their own, it’s just funny how a bike can attach itself to you. 👍🤪🏳️🌈
Haha! Even though I buy new bikes every few years, it’s always hard to let go of the last one. At one point I had 3 that I couldn’t let go off. Finally it took moving across the world for me to sell them. I’m again at 2 now and every time I review a few bikes, I keep finding more that I want haha.
@@jinemperortk4567 reliable and durable u idiot , if u don't know how to take care, possible. May be ur motorcycle not reliable throw ur brand motorcycle to garbage it's more over pricing and outdated, durability? It depends
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I'm planning to buy my first motorcycle so I watch a lot of YT videos to gain basic knowledge. I think this video gives more knowledge and imagination to people like me - with no experience - than a dozen other videos about choosing a "beginner" motorcycle.
Thank You!!!
Thank you so much for this comment. This is exactly what makes all the effort worth it. I’m glad you found it helpful. Good luck with your first motorcycle. Cheers!
Wow.....I just wrote almost identical comment then saw yours after!!!
As a 50 year old who passed bike test at 23 but never owned a bike and now itching to get one but don't know where to start, this video explained everything so well that I haven't learned watching dozens of other videos!
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Correction: Kawasaki Z650 engine is Parallel Twin and not a single as erroneously mentioned in one of the specs screens. Apologies for the typo.
I actually recognize these roads in heathrow lake mary . If you ever see a Royal Enfield Hunter 350 around, that's me trying to keep up with traffic on my first bike lol! Actually survives ok for short stints on I-4
It's a shame no one considers the really slow bikes as a first bike. It makes riding within city limits really fun, revving out small engines to the max and taking turns really tightly lol
Hello neighbor! That’s awesome man, that’s a great first bike. If i see a Hunter, I’ll come say hi! Ride safe bud!
this is what i need ive been looking for 4 months now
ive never riden a motorcycle before and dont know anybody who rides any but i have wanted one for several years now, ive narrowed it down to either the honda rebel 500, the kawasaki ninja 400, or the yamaha r3, i dont plan to try and go cross country anytime soon, just around town and to the next town over so these 3 suit my needs, torn between the 3 though as i like all of them
All i can tell you is that for around town and even the next town, the Rebel 500 would be the most comfortable. R3 is a great bike but the most uncomfortable between the 3 & this is coming from a sport bike rider.
A 250cc is the best engine size to start with. Honda Rebel is a great bike. For Yamaha fans, check out their V-star series
Actually, I agree with that. I started on a 150, went onto a 250, then a 650 and then my ZX6R. Looking back, I wouldn't do it another way.
great video. really helpful to make comparisons! I ended up starting on a Z650 last year and so far i think it was a good choice
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Awesome video. Sound of that gixxer was epic
Thanks! I’m glad you liked it
So... Get a 400cc ish if you're not a bigger rider, 600cc ish if you're heavy or patient / disciplined enough to grow into the bike in the first place before starting to hammer it..? Than more cc only if you already have riding experience. Pretty sure that's the mid segment for me then.
Question: when you say 'bigger bike' is that in terms of capabilities or fit? I'm 6'2 200lbs, well disciplined/patient, does that mean you recommend a mid segment bike to me?
That’s a pretty good summary of the video and yes, a 650cc may work for you. I would highly recommend going to a dealership and sitting on at least a naked bike and an adventure bike to see which one do you find more comfortable. I wouldn’t recommend a specific bike but i like that the Kawasaki 650 parallel twin engine is available in 4 styles - naked, sports, adventure and cruiser. Hope that helps.
@@RiderXp out of vanity I know I'm not riding an adventure bike as a first bike :). I don't like the look of them. Thanks for your recommendations though!
That's fair. They make 650s in all styles, try the ones you find yourself drawn towards.
Lots of great Info!! great video no boring stuff!
Very informative and useful info. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience
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2 minutes in and already a great video 👍
Thank you! Hope you enjoyed the rest of it! 😊
Like your videos.
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@RiderXP Ey thanks for recommending this video.
While at work I ran into two moto riders and one had been riding for a month and first bike was a Duke 390. And spoke to another rider for about 5 secs in traffic on what he felt about the power to weight. Mind you he made sure to repeat he was on a Turbocharged 650? Wth is that a thing? Well lights turned green and he popped a wheely like it was the way to go lol.
Am intrigued to say the least.
I'm thinking something between the 300 to 650 range.
I'm not really after too much pizazz. I just want to ride something comfortable that will push hard if needed on a motorway relatively safely.
Something maintainable practical.
Im still trying to understand what comfortable means in relation to posture though.
But I was thinking potentially the Kawasaki Vulcan s(seems plain, simple and well made). The Benelli 500(curiosity) The Husqvarna svartpilen 401(that stock quick shifter lol)
I like that you're doing thorough due diligence before buying your first bike. That's puts you ahead of most people to begin with. I would respectfully ask you to ignore the turbo charger comment from that rider at the light, most likely it was a joke. To answer your specific questions about:
1- Power for practicality and safety- 300-400s have enough for someone to start on and be excited, have practical city and backroad capability. After about 80 - 90mph, they do start loosing steam, so for American or British highways, they sort of fall short. Wherever average highways speeds are lower, these bikes dominate over cars & other traffic. So if you are in an area where you'd need to pass cars doing 80mph to get out of the way quickly and safely, yes, a 650 makes more sense. They're usually twin Twin cylinders (which means more torque for lugging around in slow traffic but also an exciting quick response when picking up the throttle to break away from traffic).
2-Comfort- That depends on the type of riding. A lot of people find cruisers to be the most comfortable. The seating position is like your couch has two wheels now. Of course that's comfortable! I prefer standard naked bikes because the front wheel is closer to me and I feel more in control. Adventure (Dual Sport in US) or touring bikes enable a similar or slightly more comfortable riding position compared to a standard naked. They also have much better seat padding and rider comforts and adjustability to customize ergonomics. They often have a tall seat which is a challenge for riders who're 5' 7" - 5' 8" or below, especially if they are new. Hope this essay of a response helps you! :) Good luck! There are a bunch of videos about all of these types of motorcycles on the channel, you might want to dive in and can come back to me for questions. I'm happy to help. Cheers!
@@RiderXp awesome info and numbers I can actually work with.
I'm in Australia. Our roads residentially are 50-60kph. Main roads 70 - 80kph and motorways anywhere between 60 on ramps and 80 -110kph on the mainlines.
I'm a late bloomer to this and it's crazy how the interest evolved so quickly.
I'll be booking a riding course shortly as is prescribed by law here before being able to sit for the theory test.
Every time I think it's down to these bikes surely. I begin to notice a whole other group I've overlooked.
Can I ask one last thing, are scramblers supposed to be a long trip comfortable ride? I have about a 80km daily round trip to do through a mix of motorway, residential, industrial and urban city streets, peak and off peak times.
I don't want to speed, I'm just looking to have the power needed to as you said get out of the way when needed.
Your information was great thank you, and thanks for taking the time out to relay all of that!
@@yingyangorca4124 Ok, now I know the context better, thank you. My understanding is that Australia requires you to start on a LAMS bike anyway, so that's a great safety net to begin with. 300-400s can do 110-130 KPH but beyond that they lose steam. If that's all you're looking for, they'll work, will be cheaper to buy, better on fuel efficiency, simpler and easier to maintain. About scramblers - they're supposed to have similar ergos to a naked bike, plus have some off-road riding capability (gravel roads, dirt trails, bad/broken roads etc., not full-on rocks or forest). That off-road capability aspect requires better more versatile suspension ('Versatile suspension' is the most difficult thing to manufacture and achieve). So that costs more money and therefore, smaller cheaper bikes that claim to be 'scramblers' are actually just naked bikes that look like scramblers. There are some exceptions though - Himalayan Scram 411 is actually a pretty capable small scrambler because of Royal Enfield's experience in India making motorcycles for all sorts of roads for over a century now. Husqvarna 401, isn't as capable for example. It's a good, fun bike, but not a capable scrambler. Having said that, it also boils down to the rider. I've ridden a sportbike for a 1600 kms challenge one time (Not an achievement - just me being young and dumb, would not recommend ha!ha!). I know people who have ridden scooters to the Himalayas. So can a naked be ridden for 80 kms everyday? Sure! Would it the most comfortable? Probably not! A tourer or a cruiser would be more comfortable, especially if the terrain changes like you mentioned. Look into small capacity adventure/touring bikes which will have comfort, cost effectiveness, range and enough power to cruise at 110-120KPM. Here's another video did about those a while ago - th-cam.com/video/nuRNmrUAqyM/w-d-xo.html. One last thing, the one learning from all of my riding experience is that touring motorcycles are the most practical, versatile motorcycles. They just can't win a beauty pageant where most motorcycle searches begin. Good luck and welcome to the fold, better late than never. :)
Great channel
Thank you!
Street Triple RS is best naked bike on the market
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I keep thinking about upgrading, or whatever, my xsr900 every year or two. Never do. And while I have two other bikes, it’s still my go to favorite. Obviously to each their own, it’s just funny how a bike can attach itself to you. 👍🤪🏳️🌈
Haha! Even though I buy new bikes every few years, it’s always hard to let go of the last one. At one point I had 3 that I couldn’t let go off. Finally it took moving across the world for me to sell them. I’m again at 2 now and every time I review a few bikes, I keep finding more that I want haha.
Hi there, I couldn't see the retro/naked comparison video, is it possible you share with us please ?
Hi! Here’s the link th-cam.com/video/gjbTXZd7_9A/w-d-xo.html
Didnt know that z650 is single. Always thought its a P twin
It’s not, that’s a typo, my bad. Thanks for catching that.
Awesome video 📸
Thanks bud! Wouldn’t be complete without your support!
@@RiderXp anytime my brother 👍🏾
450sr is the best
Not reliable
@@jinemperortk4567 reliable and durable u idiot , if u don't know how to take care, possible. May be ur motorcycle not reliable throw ur brand motorcycle to garbage it's more over pricing and outdated, durability? It depends