The “bully jock” trope came from Hollywood decades ago, couldn’t tell you when it started but it was really popular in 80’s teen movies. It’s really out of date and not reflective of how bullying in American high schools presents itself today. The thing is, is not too long ago “nerd” hobbies like anime, sci-fi movies, comic books, music and musicals were less common and would get you ridicule from your peers for being into something considered weird or lame. My theory is all the writer/theater kids that lived through that time period grew up and worked in Hollywood so they wrote their revenge into their movies by making the bully the popular kids, the queen bee and quarterback. Heathers is based off one of these 80’s teen movies by the same name, so it follows the tropes.
I mean, Heathers was a movie made to deconstruct and even mock those tropes that were so prevalent in the 80s by making of those social casts so egregiously absurd, to the point of ridicule. A teen movie to end all teen movies, that instead created a whole new genre of them.
part of it is also that even in some schools today with more prestigious sports departments, since student athletes bring in reputation and money for the school faculty will drag their feet on enforcing rules and consequences on them. This not only means they can get away with stuff most students cant but can also teach them that they are entitled to special treatment and deference. My middle schools big thing was track and field not football, but there were some kids on the team who got away with absolute murder.
@@hel117 Yup, I graduated high school in 2018 and unfortunately we're a poor small city and they put everything into our sports and kind of neglect other areas and athletes definitely had the stuff going on that you described in your comment.
@@hel117 my school was actually the opposite, it focused more on academics and "excellency", so by getting good grades and representing the school in academic events you could get away with many things (even getting teachers removed from their positions)
Just so you know, unlike epic and Hamilton, which are pretty much exclusively song, Heathers has a fair amount of talking and various scenes between songs, so you won't be getting the full context through the songs alone. Not much you can do about that bar looking up the plot online or watching it I'm afraid.
High School Athletes in the US, especially back then, where prioritized and protected by parents, teachers, and even local authorities to absurd degrees. They had no accountability or consequences, which lead to creating toxic, aggressive, untouchable High School Jock Bullies. The stereotype then bleed into US tv and movies as an easy Villain for screenwriters.
17:25 The red handprints on her shirt I believe allude to SA, especially with the line of "Why don't I fight back?". Hitting the nail on the head with common problems in high schools, and its really sad and sickening to witness.
The nerdy boy does not have that interation with veronica, the person that did the animatic added that detail and i really like it but i think that's not canon. Pdt. Sorry for my English 😅
Just so you know im pretty sure the Girl at 17:25 was SAed. We can tell cause of the handprints on her body! Thats also why she says "Why didn't i fight back?"
Just a heads up: The guy that give Veronica her Diary back is not a character in the musical. It's just a background guy that Morci decided to make a character to her version of the Musical, the one of the animatics. So I wouldn't really recommend her animatic of "Fight for me" if you want the closest version to the og musical 😅. They are awesome though! Don't take me wrong! Is just that Morci is narrating her own version of the musical (just modifications, like this guy being a major character) so if you want something close to the Broadway version, look for other animatics, if there are others, haven't seen that many. Keep uo with the good work! :D
@@saddlebagDon't worry, if he gets through Heathers with Morci, it will be REALLY COOL, I already explained why is not the best if he wants a closer approach to the Broadway ver.😊😊
I haven't been in on Heathers animatics since before the West End version I may need to go through this set closer since I don't think I've seen these ones, or didn't pay enough attention.
Boons are sought from gods, Veronica is literally asking for a blessing from them as if they are actually gods. Also learn the last names or they're generally known by their colors, which a lot of animatics keep to some degree. The "nice" one is McNamera and wears yellow, the one throwing up is Duke and wears green, and Heather Chandler wears red.
I actually love the kinda 'over-analysing' as you call it because having heard the entire soundtrack sooo many times I love actually hearing someone pick out all these other details and adding context that way! There's a reason the notes don't resolve~ And I'm SO looking forward to you meeting mr green and trenchcoat!!
The Jock Bully trope comes from (at least from my knowledge) the fact that many student athletes were somewhat protected by school administration due to what they would bring to the school (i.e., recognition, prestige, funding). Which created an unhealthy dynamic and mindset in which they wouldn't be held accountable and punished for their actions. Steven van de Velde is a recent example of this (cleared to play in the Olympics despite being convicted of SA of a minor)
@@CFEntertains I’d recommend The Phantom of the Opera at the Royal Albert Hall, a production that was professionally recorded for the 25th anniversary of the musical. The leads, Ramin and Sierra, are one of my favorite interpretations of the Phantom and Christine ❤️
Your analysis is fantastic! Love how much music you go into and plot too. Very perceptive. The animatic helps too it’s amazingly good at getting character nuance across that isnt even necessarily in the stage production. You mention Sweet Heather (or Yellow Heather, or Heather Mac) in the bathroom shows hesitancy and compassion and you said that she might be the crack in the foundation (you worded it differently). And JUST the animatic gave you that and my god it’s brilliant because YES. We put up a production of Heathers in Iceland in icelandic and I played the yellow Heather (or sweet Heather as you dubbed her) 😊 so I love these sorts of reactions and analysis. It was years ago now tho, but still fun to delve into.
Heathers is one of my favorite musicals of all time, and I really think you would love it - so thank you for checking it out! Ps. Heathers had three songs added to it a few years ago I believe, so I don’t know what list your using to decide what’s next but if you do continue reacting make sure you don’t skip any of the new ones by accident - I think they’re really good :D
Heathers was actually the first musical, with animatics, I ever got into. That led me all the way to finding you through Mortius's EPIC reactions. Weird how life repeats on itself and I'm listening to Heathers again. A bit of context for those new to Heathers out there. Heathers was based on a movie of the same name, made in 1989. The musical is therefore based on a very movie like American Highschool. If you've seen Mean Girls it's kinda of a precursor to that, just...a lot darker in theme. Not just sexual themes, death as a topic is quite frequent. It's an enjoyable show and I'm greatful it introduced me to animatic creators that went onto draw animatics for Hamilton and the like.
I’m going to see Heathers tomorrow in London and I’ll definitely be thinking about these things while I watch, also the perfect thing to hype me up for it! ❤
oh my god a Heathers reaction! I hope it becomes a series like the rest of the musicals, I was actually going to comment asking if you had laready watched it. I personally like the West End version more than the Broadway because the characters seem to have a bit more emotion in their voices, but that's just a subjective thing. If you want, you should definitely react to the west end version after you're done with the broadway one!!! I can't wait to see more, keep up the awesome content!!! :)
At my American high school the football players, cheerleaders, and other popular kids were all super nice. That's why they were popular. The mean kids were all the "quirky", anti-popular outcasts who treated everyone outside their immediate circle like trash.
It’s wild this musical was before school shootings…. Now a days we look at this story and go “yeah get in line” but in the past this story was so shocking and jaw dropping. In those times people dressed like breakfast club were the norm. That edgy grunge was just fashion…. This was just … normal
It's so good to see you reacting to this it is an absolutely amazing musical, also I just realised that I'm not sure if I've ever heard this song or at least most of this song before.
In America, sports unlocks a lot of privileges cause sports is huge in opportunities for both the student and the school. Image and interactions with other schools and the public usually take place through sports events like Homecoming, and students can earn scholarships and sponsors depending on the school. They're representing the school so the school tends to be more lenient so they act better in the spotlight. This usually goes for other extracurriculars and cheerleaders as well. Some staff luckily also use it to keep them in line. Because without sports, they loose a lot of privileges or simply scholarships and opportunities. So if they act up, they get removed of the team.
As an American in my experience athletic guys are usually jerks with toxic masculinity during school days at least. There are nice ones of course but even they were off put by me but I suppose fear isn't really like being a jerk but most of them were pretty rude in middle school. Cheerleaders weren't extremely sweet but they were one of the nicer cliques in my experience. The jeans girls were usually rude. The emos were nice but they talked a lot about inappropriate experiences for our ages. If someone sees this after a year remind me to share the highschool experience because this is just middle school. :3
Amazing reaction!! Just to let you know, this is more of a parody take of the cliches in 80s highschool hollywood movies, yes, a lot of the themes are very delicate but are definitely exagerated to a comedic aspect (You'll notice a lot of... well- interesting topics treated badly exactly because of this)
Just as a FYI, I’m not sure if the animatics do this but in the show you tell them he heathers apart by their colours. Heather Chandler (Alpha) is red, Heather McNamara (sweet) is yellow and Heather Duke (other) is green. That’s why some shots have the colours they do.
I haven’t seen anyone else say this, Heathers is color coded, main heather is red, sweet heather is yellow, other heather is green Veronica is blue, Martha is pink and trench coat guy is black. The artist just didn’t utilize this.
So with this animator she created more of a "story" for the nerdy kid who called Veronica a nerd, he's actually not really a character that appears other than as someone apart of the ensemble. Just a creative liberty.
Thisll be interesting, I don't think ive ever listened to all the Heather songs (the only ones I know are this one and Dead Girl Walking (the reprise version!!)). I kind of know the story but I've never fully listened to it lol
America calls it Soccer because it’s a shortening of Association Football, which is the original name. The guy in charge really liked nicknames for things and began calling it Soccer and it just caught on.
@@LukeBridger the name Soccer was invented in the UK, but as many other things(like imperial units) the British stoped using it an the Americans didn't
Just a fun fact, England called it soccer first. England had rugby football which they referred to as rugger and association football which became assoccer which became soccer. Then they dropped football from rugby and went went with just football instead of soccer
My high school was definitely not stereotypical. Media mostly shows schools being divided into cliches and maybe some schools are like that but mine definitely was not. The popular kids were also the nerds/band geeks/theatre nerds etc. and there wasn’t excessive bullying, just a fight here or there. Doesn’t mean it was great for everyone but it was nothing like I’ve seen depicted. But that just my experience.
Same here, class of 2016. The popular kids had their fingers in everything: sports, music, honors/AP courses, leadership. They might not have been at the top of every category, but certainly above average, and likely excelling in at least one. And they would often go out of their way to be nice and try to include others. They were the ones with the perfect portfolios for college admissions. I experienced and saw some teasing, but it never came from anyone you would consider popular or even well-liked. Edit: Also, money. I don't think it got flaunted at all, but I knew of at least one popular girl who had tutors, and another came from a family of 7 siblings with no apparent issues.
@@ForthwithJackal yes! A friend from my church was overweight, did theatre and was one of the smartest people in our class, but he was also popular and very well liked by everyone. Not that those things are mutually exclusive. Media and Hollywood have just portrayed people like him as the ‘Martha dumpstocks’ of the world.
@@causethefox Oh, absolutely. I think this discussion was generally pointed towards the belief that such stereotypes may still persist in American public schools, if they ever did at all.
For the whole American high school. I was TERRIFIED to start High School, It’s all media. That’s personal experience though. There wasn’t any bullying in my high school and anyone in sports were also in some kind of art. I know we had football players and cheerleaders on the field with us during marching band. That’s just my experience though.
I'm saying this now but most of the Heather's animatics coming up better be overwhelmingly Galactibun or MissyAsylum Otherwise what are your patrons thinking. ElementalFA also did some really nice ones. Morci is really good dont get me wrong but the animatics by the artists I mentioned on this musical cannot be beat. MissyAsylum for the fun and dramatic bits, Galactibun for getting your soul crusted and Elemental for that year feeling of teenage liminal existence
Oh I actually know why it's called Soccer in the US :3 the term comes from Association Football, an oxford student who was really big on shortening stuff coined the term soccer and the phrase was interchangable with football in both the US and the UK, eventually The US settled on soccer instead, unlike their mother country England who settled on football, and the US used the term football for American Football because that sport is a combination of Association Football and Rugby. I'm not sure why football is so popular globally as a term other than probably colonization and trade influence since some places also call it soccer The more you know :3
As for why football players kinda suck in so much American media: football is one of the biggest sports in the United States even in grade school levels with little league and high school football. That can make some players have almost God complexes when in school and some can be real jerks. It's also important to know that since a lot of media like movies and musicals and shows is made by people who weren't always at the top of the social food chain in grade school, sometimes they can internalize that and show it in their art when they're older
@@softly3359 All the high school football players I know are so nice. I just started High School and it is not as bad as middle school, which were the worst years of my life. The middle school football players had their brain up their ass while the High school ones respected the teachers and students. And the middle school ones hated band kids with a burning passion because there was ONE gay kid in the program. ONE gay kid. (There is nothing wrong with being gay, trans, or anything else in between.) Sorry for ranting.
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Heads up, the male nerd isn't an actual character he is just from The animator
“Just don’t die” the man is traumatized
Polites has changed me
@@CFEntertainsNOT POLITES
Great the world with open arms...
Everything's changed since Polites
Poor guy has been changed, but...I mean... is Heathers so that is a valid thing to ask.
Alpha Heather, Sweet Heather, and Other Heather is actually so accurate though 😂😂😂
I called other heater something way worse idk if it made it into the R/As tho xdd
@@CFEntertains what was it? 👀
@@LilacRose-rp8vw a woman
@@CFEntertains what?
@@godmew2458 Nooo you beat me to it 😂
Casual "he's become a monster rawr rawr" lol
The “bully jock” trope came from Hollywood decades ago, couldn’t tell you when it started but it was really popular in 80’s teen movies. It’s really out of date and not reflective of how bullying in American high schools presents itself today. The thing is, is not too long ago “nerd” hobbies like anime, sci-fi movies, comic books, music and musicals were less common and would get you ridicule from your peers for being into something considered weird or lame.
My theory is all the writer/theater kids that lived through that time period grew up and worked in Hollywood so they wrote their revenge into their movies by making the bully the popular kids, the queen bee and quarterback. Heathers is based off one of these 80’s teen movies by the same name, so it follows the tropes.
I mean, Heathers was a movie made to deconstruct and even mock those tropes that were so prevalent in the 80s by making of those social casts so egregiously absurd, to the point of ridicule. A teen movie to end all teen movies, that instead created a whole new genre of them.
part of it is also that even in some schools today with more prestigious sports departments, since student athletes bring in reputation and money for the school faculty will drag their feet on enforcing rules and consequences on them. This not only means they can get away with stuff most students cant but can also teach them that they are entitled to special treatment and deference. My middle schools big thing was track and field not football, but there were some kids on the team who got away with absolute murder.
@@hel117 Yup, I graduated high school in 2018 and unfortunately we're a poor small city and they put everything into our sports and kind of neglect other areas and athletes definitely had the stuff going on that you described in your comment.
Heathers was a movie from the 80’s that parodied all the common teen flick tropes of the time, hence why there’s bully jocks.
@@hel117 my school was actually the opposite, it focused more on academics and "excellency", so by getting good grades and representing the school in academic events you could get away with many things (even getting teachers removed from their positions)
Just so you know, unlike epic and Hamilton, which are pretty much exclusively song, Heathers has a fair amount of talking and various scenes between songs, so you won't be getting the full context through the songs alone. Not much you can do about that bar looking up the plot online or watching it I'm afraid.
My lovely patrons have helped me work around that, you'll see in next week's EP! :)
The slime videos were a salvation for me when i wanted the context lmao
@@chapalapachala-oe1oo I loved those slime vids. 🤣
Don't worry, Kirru and I got Casper covered
High School Athletes in the US, especially back then, where prioritized and protected by parents, teachers, and even local authorities to absurd degrees. They had no accountability or consequences, which lead to creating toxic, aggressive, untouchable High School Jock Bullies. The stereotype then bleed into US tv and movies as an easy Villain for screenwriters.
Btw, the two nerd boys are the animator's original characters! They're just nameless
members of the student ensemble in the musical
17:25 The red handprints on her shirt I believe allude to SA, especially with the line of "Why don't I fight back?". Hitting the nail on the head with common problems in high schools, and its really sad and sickening to witness.
17:55
"hes become the momster, rawr rawr"
SIR Epic has taken over your whole lifeee 😭
The nerdy boy does not have that interation with veronica, the person that did the animatic added that detail and i really like it but i think that's not canon.
Pdt. Sorry for my English 😅
Just so you know im pretty sure the Girl at 17:25 was SAed. We can tell cause of the handprints on her body! Thats also why she says "Why didn't i fight back?"
For me the "Heather, Heather, Heather, and someone" line is really underrated. Its just really funny to me for some reason.
The fact that you designate Heather Duke as 'Other Heather' fits perfectly with the 'no discernable personaity'. 😆
But her mom did pay for implants
Just a heads up: The guy that give Veronica her Diary back is not a character in the musical. It's just a background guy that Morci decided to make a character to her version of the Musical, the one of the animatics. So I wouldn't really recommend her animatic of "Fight for me" if you want the closest version to the og musical 😅. They are awesome though! Don't take me wrong! Is just that Morci is narrating her own version of the musical (just modifications, like this guy being a major character) so if you want something close to the Broadway version, look for other animatics, if there are others, haven't seen that many. Keep uo with the good work! :D
I get what you’re saying… but they’re like the best animatics (and I don’t think it takes away from anything), so I do hope he goes through with them.
@@saddlebagDon't worry, if he gets through Heathers with Morci, it will be REALLY COOL, I already explained why is not the best if he wants a closer approach to the Broadway ver.😊😊
I haven't been in on Heathers animatics since before the West End version I may need to go through this set closer since I don't think I've seen these ones, or didn't pay enough attention.
"send me a sign, God" as it points to JD is crazy.. Our Love is God reference??
thats exactly what I thought
Fun fact, the guy you keep mentioning was actually the ML understudy, too.
I just realized the girl who wanted to fight back? She had hand prints on her. That hit so hard... 🥺
IM SO EXCITED FOR HIM TO CONTINUE WITH THIS!!! 😆😆😆
The one with the glasses at least, not trench coat guy
@@jasmineperez4439yeah…
Boons are sought from gods, Veronica is literally asking for a blessing from them as if they are actually gods. Also learn the last names or they're generally known by their colors, which a lot of animatics keep to some degree. The "nice" one is McNamera and wears yellow, the one throwing up is Duke and wears green, and Heather Chandler wears red.
😂 I caught that lol “maybe he’s become the monster rah rah” omg Epic definitely made an impact
The guy with the glasses (Polites 2) Isn't actually canon! he was added by morci.
Can't wait to see more, one of my favorite and wildest musicals ^.^
Just in case you didn’t notice it, this show is set in the 80s! Its kind of important for the setting of the story
no way! my favourite musical 🤩
*nudge nudge* Other than EPIC. . . right!?! 🤗
Not threatening at all
I actually love the kinda 'over-analysing' as you call it because having heard the entire soundtrack sooo many times I love actually hearing someone pick out all these other details and adding context that way! There's a reason the notes don't resolve~ And I'm SO looking forward to you meeting mr green and trenchcoat!!
11:04
From this day forward I will never refer to football by any other name but Egghand. 😂😂😂
No way)
It's my first musical ❤
I really excited for this reaction!
The Jock Bully trope comes from (at least from my knowledge) the fact that many student athletes were somewhat protected by school administration due to what they would bring to the school (i.e., recognition, prestige, funding). Which created an unhealthy dynamic and mindset in which they wouldn't be held accountable and punished for their actions. Steven van de Velde is a recent example of this (cleared to play in the Olympics despite being convicted of SA of a minor)
This and Phantom of the Opera were my first musicals. Glad to see you’re enjoying Heathers 😄
My grandma LOVES the Phantom of the Opera, I gotta watch that one sometime !
@@CFEntertains I’d recommend The Phantom of the Opera at the Royal Albert Hall, a production that was professionally recorded for the 25th anniversary of the musical. The leads, Ramin and Sierra, are one of my favorite interpretations of the Phantom and Christine ❤️
@@NR-kp1fqyesss the best Eric and Christina imo
Heathers! Heathers! Critically underrated, musical
It's so fun, my dude, i promise youre going to have a _blast!_
[ahem]
im sorry but nicknaming heather duke "other heather" is really funny thematically
Your analysis is fantastic! Love how much music you go into and plot too. Very perceptive. The animatic helps too it’s amazingly good at getting character nuance across that isnt even necessarily in the stage production.
You mention Sweet Heather (or Yellow Heather, or Heather Mac) in the bathroom shows hesitancy and compassion and you said that she might be the crack in the foundation (you worded it differently). And JUST the animatic gave you that and my god it’s brilliant because YES.
We put up a production of Heathers in Iceland in icelandic and I played the yellow Heather (or sweet Heather as you dubbed her) 😊 so I love these sorts of reactions and analysis. It was years ago now tho, but still fun to delve into.
Heathers is one of my favorite musicals of all time, and I really think you would love it - so thank you for checking it out!
Ps. Heathers had three songs added to it a few years ago I believe, so I don’t know what list your using to decide what’s next but if you do continue reacting make sure you don’t skip any of the new ones by accident - I think they’re really good :D
they were added in the west end version right
and blue was replace
Heathers was actually the first musical, with animatics, I ever got into. That led me all the way to finding you through Mortius's EPIC reactions. Weird how life repeats on itself and I'm listening to Heathers again.
A bit of context for those new to Heathers out there. Heathers was based on a movie of the same name, made in 1989. The musical is therefore based on a very movie like American Highschool. If you've seen Mean Girls it's kinda of a precursor to that, just...a lot darker in theme. Not just sexual themes, death as a topic is quite frequent.
It's an enjoyable show and I'm greatful it introduced me to animatic creators that went onto draw animatics for Hamilton and the like.
"it is not good we see a man in a trenchcoat with a gun"
my thoughts exactly when i first saw JD
Casper:she might be the key to turning this heathers around
Me,who has heard all the songs:pffftt
I'm musically illiterate so now I finally understand why this song has anxiety vibes, like you can never be calm
Dead girl walking gonna go crazy💀
The problem with this musical is if you don't watch the middle parts, you wouldn't really understand the plot just from the songs...
The EPIC references ToT first the Polites, now the monster rawr rawr rawr ToT ToT ToT
I’m going to see Heathers tomorrow in London and I’ll definitely be thinking about these things while I watch, also the perfect thing to hype me up for it! ❤
Enjoy! ♥️
im so excited for the whole series, your commentary is great
If you do want to watch a pro shot, there is a version of the UK/West End on the Roku Channel (and it's legal lol) :)
The West End version also has a few songs that the Broadway version doesn’t
Looks really interesting! I wonder where this story will go.
oh my god a Heathers reaction! I hope it becomes a series like the rest of the musicals, I was actually going to comment asking if you had laready watched it. I personally like the West End version more than the Broadway because the characters seem to have a bit more emotion in their voices, but that's just a subjective thing. If you want, you should definitely react to the west end version after you're done with the broadway one!!! I can't wait to see more, keep up the awesome content!!! :)
cf, i dont know why your background is a cool hawlucha card but i wanted you to know i appreciate it
Hawlucha is my fav Pokémon, a fan sent me this wall art / blanket - it’s so dope!
Thank you! ❤️
yesss hamilton AND heathers? were getting spoiled 😋
Wow!!! I loved this analysis! Please continue with the whole Heathers show! There aren't enough reactors of it 😄
Heathers is the definition of a musical that gets better with every song especially with the solo performances. So excited to see you tackle this
At my American high school the football players, cheerleaders, and other popular kids were all super nice. That's why they were popular. The mean kids were all the "quirky", anti-popular outcasts who treated everyone outside their immediate circle like trash.
The number of times I laughed hysterically is immeasurable >:3 Heathers is one of my musical obsessions
I'm so excited to see more, heathers was the first musical that i watched and i love your reactions!
EGGHAND?! I'm dying 😂😂😂😂😂
IM SO EXCITED BECAUSE THIS MUSICAL BLOWS
I believe Martha's last name is actually Dunstock., that's why the bullies changed it to Dumptruck or something like that
Fascinating that you made a connection between her and Korra’s VA. Never thought of it but yeah they do have a similar voice sound.
It’s wild this musical was before school shootings…. Now a days we look at this story and go “yeah get in line” but in the past this story was so shocking and jaw dropping.
In those times people dressed like breakfast club were the norm. That edgy grunge was just fashion….
This was just … normal
I’m so happy that you didn’t pause when she did that badass high note..
It's so good to see you reacting to this it is an absolutely amazing musical, also I just realised that I'm not sure if I've ever heard this song or at least most of this song before.
Im so excited for this reaction series, this series is a really entertaning watch.Heathers are really intresting characters imo.
Casper, have you seen Mean Girls the musical? Because Apex Predator is one of the songs, and it made me laugh every time you said that
So glad your doing Morci’s animatics!!!! They are awsome!!!
I love that bass clef shirt! ❤
Omg i was thinking of listening to this musical. Now i can watch it with my favorite reaction channel.
🥹🥹🥹
In America, sports unlocks a lot of privileges cause sports is huge in opportunities for both the student and the school. Image and interactions with other schools and the public usually take place through sports events like Homecoming, and students can earn scholarships and sponsors depending on the school. They're representing the school so the school tends to be more lenient so they act better in the spotlight.
This usually goes for other extracurriculars and cheerleaders as well.
Some staff luckily also use it to keep them in line. Because without sports, they loose a lot of privileges or simply scholarships and opportunities. So if they act up, they get removed of the team.
I love your analysis!! its rlly fun to listen to, i really hope you do this for more of the songs👀👀
u are going to love this musical
YIPPEE HEATHERS IS SO GOOD IM GLAD YOURE REACTING TO IT
Yes i cant wait for you to do more of this show!!!!
It interesting about the cheerleaders in jocks s because in like the 80s they were pretty worse but nowadays they are more tamed
As an American in my experience athletic guys are usually jerks with toxic masculinity during school days at least. There are nice ones of course but even they were off put by me but I suppose fear isn't really like being a jerk but most of them were pretty rude in middle school. Cheerleaders weren't extremely sweet but they were one of the nicer cliques in my experience. The jeans girls were usually rude. The emos were nice but they talked a lot about inappropriate experiences for our ages. If someone sees this after a year remind me to share the highschool experience because this is just middle school. :3
Amazing reaction!! Just to let you know, this is more of a parody take of the cliches in 80s highschool hollywood movies, yes, a lot of the themes are very delicate but are definitely exagerated to a comedic aspect (You'll notice a lot of... well- interesting topics treated badly exactly because of this)
5:39 I think it’s probably an electric piano with some kind of filter on it
Just as a FYI, I’m not sure if the animatics do this but in the show you tell them he heathers apart by their colours. Heather Chandler (Alpha) is red, Heather McNamara (sweet) is yellow and Heather Duke (other) is green. That’s why some shots have the colours they do.
I haven’t seen anyone else say this, Heathers is color coded, main heather is red, sweet heather is yellow, other heather is green Veronica is blue, Martha is pink and trench coat guy is black. The artist just didn’t utilize this.
They sorta did a bit with Veronica’s blue but yeah I see what you mean :)
Great reaction!
Love a good break down!
Not related to the musical at all my apologies, but I love your shirt in this video!!!! Makes my lil musician heart happy (:
So with this animator she created more of a "story" for the nerdy kid who called Veronica a nerd, he's actually not really a character that appears other than as someone apart of the ensemble. Just a creative liberty.
AH I LOVE HEATHERS! You’re gonna have a good time with this one:))!
There's a pro shot available
YES!! HEATHER THE MUSICAL!!
Thisll be interesting, I don't think ive ever listened to all the Heather songs (the only ones I know are this one and Dead Girl Walking (the reprise version!!)). I kind of know the story but I've never fully listened to it lol
In my HS the football players weren't a problem. The track team boys, and field hockey girls though...they were MEAN
we're not just gonna gloss over the " he's become the monster rawr rawr" bc that shit was funny
America calls it Soccer because it’s a shortening of Association Football, which is the original name. The guy in charge really liked nicknames for things and began calling it Soccer and it just caught on.
To answer your question. Soccer was once the universal name for fútball until the reason of the world changed it. So we just kept it
That's actually not true lol you're one of the only countries that have ever called it Soccer
@@LukeBridger the name Soccer was invented in the UK, but as many other things(like imperial units) the British stoped using it an the Americans didn't
@alejoclosa7705 Yeah it was more slang than anything else, but it never stuck except with the Americans
Just a fun fact, England called it soccer first. England had rugby football which they referred to as rugger and association football which became assoccer which became soccer. Then they dropped football from rugby and went went with just football instead of soccer
30:55 Ahaha..hahaha...haha...ha 😅😅
IT'S BEAUTIFUL
Casper you're gonna end up loving Heather McNamara/Sweet Heather, thats all im saying
My high school was definitely not stereotypical. Media mostly shows schools being divided into cliches and maybe some schools are like that but mine definitely was not. The popular kids were also the nerds/band geeks/theatre nerds etc. and there wasn’t excessive bullying, just a fight here or there. Doesn’t mean it was great for everyone but it was nothing like I’ve seen depicted. But that just my experience.
Same here, class of 2016. The popular kids had their fingers in everything: sports, music, honors/AP courses, leadership. They might not have been at the top of every category, but certainly above average, and likely excelling in at least one. And they would often go out of their way to be nice and try to include others. They were the ones with the perfect portfolios for college admissions. I experienced and saw some teasing, but it never came from anyone you would consider popular or even well-liked.
Edit: Also, money. I don't think it got flaunted at all, but I knew of at least one popular girl who had tutors, and another came from a family of 7 siblings with no apparent issues.
@@ForthwithJackal yes! A friend from my church was overweight, did theatre and was one of the smartest people in our class, but he was also popular and very well liked by everyone. Not that those things are mutually exclusive. Media and Hollywood have just portrayed people like him as the ‘Martha dumpstocks’ of the world.
This musical does take place decades ago though so that could be a difference
@@causethefox Oh, absolutely. I think this discussion was generally pointed towards the belief that such stereotypes may still persist in American public schools, if they ever did at all.
@@causethefox that too.
jocks being mean is mostly a starotype
You should react to Elisabeth. Best non-English musical so far.
The pro shot is on apple tv or amazon prime
noooo i missed the premier 😭😭😭
there's a proshot of heathers west end
For the whole American high school. I was TERRIFIED to start High School, It’s all media. That’s personal experience though.
There wasn’t any bullying in my high school and anyone in sports were also in some kind of art. I know we had football players and cheerleaders on the field with us during marching band.
That’s just my experience though.
I'm saying this now but most of the Heather's animatics coming up better be overwhelmingly Galactibun or MissyAsylum
Otherwise what are your patrons thinking.
ElementalFA also did some really nice ones.
Morci is really good dont get me wrong but the animatics by the artists I mentioned on this musical cannot be beat.
MissyAsylum for the fun and dramatic bits, Galactibun for getting your soul crusted and Elemental for that year feeling of teenage liminal existence
Oh I actually know why it's called Soccer in the US :3 the term comes from Association Football, an oxford student who was really big on shortening stuff coined the term soccer and the phrase was interchangable with football in both the US and the UK, eventually The US settled on soccer instead, unlike their mother country England who settled on football, and the US used the term football for American Football because that sport is a combination of Association Football and Rugby.
I'm not sure why football is so popular globally as a term other than probably colonization and trade influence since some places also call it soccer
The more you know :3
As for why football players kinda suck in so much American media: football is one of the biggest sports in the United States even in grade school levels with little league and high school football. That can make some players have almost God complexes when in school and some can be real jerks. It's also important to know that since a lot of media like movies and musicals and shows is made by people who weren't always at the top of the social food chain in grade school, sometimes they can internalize that and show it in their art when they're older
@@softly3359 All the high school football players I know are so nice. I just started High School and it is not as bad as middle school, which were the worst years of my life. The middle school football players had their brain up their ass while the High school ones respected the teachers and students.
And the middle school ones hated band kids with a burning passion because there was ONE gay kid in the program. ONE gay kid. (There is nothing wrong with being gay, trans, or anything else in between.)
Sorry for ranting.
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"That is not good that we see a guy in a trench coat with a gun" Well, yeah..