I just learned you can bias the tube by holding the rename and arrow up as you're turning on the unit it will start to read the voltage which takes about 1 minute then it'll tell you whether the voltage needs to go up or down which then you adjust a trim pot that is recessed in the back once it reaches 8.8 make sure it sits there for about half hour
I'm so impressed by your video! I have an LE and want to use it in stereo; I use a Fernandez Sustainer and am a slide player. You have inspired me to press on. Thanks. Please post more!;
Thank you! Im glad you appreciated it. This device is a gold for small gigs and I also use it on my records. May be you have some questions about LE? I could make a video on it. Cheers!
I just bought a Line 6 Helix and with all the things that the Helix does great, it doesn't touch the ToneLab LE. After 10 years of use my LE died. It was having issues with the switches which I was able to repair but, I left the power plugged in to make sure the switches were working properly vs. reassembling testing the having to take it all apart again, which happened at least once during the repair. So, I fixed the faulty switch but when I went to put the back cover which is metal back on it hit the circuit board which caused a short electrical storm. ZAP! Okay, these things are getting more and more rare. I was noticing that I needed to add more and more pedals on to get sounds like the fuzz from Smashing Pumpkins, or a heavy distortion from Sevendust. I have Bias Amp on my iPad which I ran in the FX loop as an insert when I need those tones I wasn't able to achieve with the on board amps. The thing that the Helix does not do well is dynamics. For example, the solo to Bell Bottom Blues from Eric Clapton has a spot in the solo where he rolls the volume back and plays pick harmonics. The Helix cannot do that. The intro delay to Welcome To The Jungle, I could easily dial that setting in with the Vox. With the Helix, not so much.
I am using one already for 10 years. I also have a line6 HD500x but that one is collecting dust. I prefer the Vox. I think it's the best processor for a nice crunch. The in between tones that you can nicely clean up by simply turning back the volume. For Hi gain search something else.. A loose pedal is a common problem. You need to open the device and tighten a screw with an allen key. If you search on google you'll find video's showing how. I use it as a preamp. WIth a tech 21 poweramp or in the effect return of whatever amp is available. Tube replacing is quite fiddly.. Unscrew bottom, one screw on the PCB board holding the tube. All screws on the backside including the plastic ones around the in/outputs, and then PCB board containing the tube is accessible. Carefully pull the tube, and re-insert a new one. I've done this once when I had a strange ticking sound in the marshall amps. it's an electro harmonix 12ax7
I Own one but bought a Zoom g5 and Love it ! But from you listing what you use in your presets everytime your using the Vox 212 cab ! I was always using the V30 and the UK 75 and after using the Zoom g5 the Tonelab le sounded like it blanket over the speakers ! Think your on to something here with using the Vox cab so I'll have to pull out of the box and give it go!Good preset tones by the way! Cheers
@@childofgod9662 Hi! I replaced the stock one with 12ax7 tube by Tungsol and everything works fine. Yes, sure, you may use TS in front of it, in IMPUT but you should turn the Pedal section off. Also I use my Crybaby pedal in front of vox instead of stock one.
Genius, I really liked your video! but do you have any idea if it is very different in sound from the previous Tonelab SE? I had that one, it was very good. thanks friend!
My tonelab sounds like junk on the cleans. Maybe I'm just spoiled from the AC15C2 but I'm starting to resent the tone lab thru my PA. Is it worth changing the tube?
Hey therme, nice vid! I just bought one and it sounds great. But the expression Pedal is a little loose. IT takes about 1 cm down or upward motion until IT grabs. Has anybody had that Problem before and Hot a tip how to fix it? Cheers
I have owned a ToneLab LE since 2007 and this is probably my biggest quam with this board. So what you need to do is unscrew the backing. There are also 2 or 3 black screws where the inputs/outputs are that you will also need to unscrew. Oh, most important is make sure you do not have the board plugged into the wall outlet. There are 2 spots that usually get loose over time. Let me see if I can find the video to walk you through it.
hi brou, you still have this machine?? i have one, i think its sounds great, but i feel it is lack of range in ecualizer. i compare it to a boss gt100, and eq is much more agresive on gt100, even it has a parametric eq. anyway i think tonelab sound great emulating preamps but more eq i really needed, so if i add an external eq pedal coud be the way to hear all the power of my stratocaster in cleans and distortions?? hope someone answer before i selling it and get a boss gt100 :/ that pedalboard can create awesome cleans and powerfull distortions, but i really like how vox sounds, like real tube amp. BUT EQ IS SO IMPORTANT TO MY STYLES I NEED THE BRIGTHNES CLEANS AND POWERFULL MID AND BASS, i feel tonelab le dont get me there.... but maybe the solution is just a simpl eq pedal what you say people you have more time discovering this unit, i sold it and buy a gt100?, or just buy an eq pedal an add it to the voxtonelab le?
Hi my friend! I would suggest you to find an EQ pedal and to test it In front and in fx loop of tonelab. If the result is not satisfying then buy gt100.
Hi! LE has 24bit processor compared to 20bit of SE. The first is a new five-mode amp/line out voiced specially for various applications, from playing into different amp types to direct recording to live performance through a PA system. The “Line 2” amp/line setting features an all-new three band Master EQ section modeled after one of the most acclaimed live mixers ever manufactured. This allows you to EQ the sound of your Tonelab LE to suit any room or sound system. For greater flexibility in recording applications, we’ve added a S/P DIF output. The acoustic simulator now offers the choice between three popular acoustic guitar types plus a resonator. Finally, the new Tonelab wouldn’t be complete without some new effects! A new “metal distortion” sound will satisfy your need for extreme gain. I have to say JCM800 on LE is more realistic as on SE model. And of corse, it's lighter.
@@eugenscobioala excellent. thanks for your informative response. bit of a beginner here. does the LE have an mobile/computer/laptop device input for playing along with recorded backing tracks? i'd like to use it directly to practice silently via headphones to various backing tracks.
@@checkeredflagfilms Unfortunately no. I would say: LE is as simple in use as it's possible and works excelent in Line or in front of an amp. It's awesome for rehearsals or the small gigs and it sounds amazing. But it's a device from 2005 and you should understand it wasn't planned as a workstation like a lot of modern processors does.
Hi! I can tell you if there is no sound issues or excess of noise and hum you don't need to replace anything. I had changed the tube because the stock one was too old and a could hear too low signal volume.
Ola amigo tudo bem...eu tenho uma pedaleira vox le ..gosto de U2. E gostaria de timbrar a musica pride. Mas nao consigo regular o delay.. .vc pode me ajudar por favor..ja escrevi para muitos ..mas ninguem me ajuda
Has anybody else had the problem of one of the saved Banks example #1 not switching to bank number 2 3 or 4 ? Like something inside got stuck and won't allow you to go to your other saved tones
I had this happen to mine over time. The design of the foot switches is such that there is a metal spring under the buttons that contacts micro switches soldered to the PCB. Over time the spring compress to where they don’t put enough pressure to activate the contact switches underneath. In my case the fix was very simple. I took the unit apart and gently tugged on the springs to stretch them back out a bit. It works perfect again. Very responsive to the foot switches. Be careful doing this though. If you pull too hard on the springs you could easily break one of them. They’re not very big and they look like they would be pretty difficult to replace. Best of luck!
Get a Midi to USB cable , Audio M, and use the software interface. there you can select what location you want to save to. I use a Win10 PC and it works fine.
Nice vid bro! Did you just plug it as an line-in input to the interface? I've got one and imho it sounds terrible plugged to the amp (I'm using Orange Crush 35RT) when the cab is on. Could you please advice anything?
Hello my friend! Yes, I use "Line 1" output mode direct into my interface. Vox LE has more options for output mode, Line 1, Line 2, Amp 1, Amp 2, Amp 3. It depends on where you plug the unit, ex. in front of the amp, in fx return (read the manual). You should choose the mode and turn off Cab sim.
@@azpg13 Thank you. The tube in LE is not supposed to a high voltage that's why a new tube will have a long term life. You should replace it in 2 cases: 1) if it doesn't work and the signal is to low. 2) if you can not setup voltage for it. I'll show how to replace and setup voltage in a video this week
I just learned you can bias the tube by holding the rename and arrow up as you're turning on the unit it will start to read the voltage which takes about 1 minute then it'll tell you whether the voltage needs to go up or down which then you adjust a trim pot that is recessed in the back once it reaches 8.8 make sure it sits there for about half hour
Excellent demo excellent playing. The vox Tonelab LE sounded great as did your talent to squeeze these tones out of it. 👍🏻👍🏻😎
Thank You, Sir!
I still love the Valtronix sound. I just picked up the Tonelab EX and enjoying it 🙂
I'm so impressed by your video! I have an LE and want to use it in stereo; I use a Fernandez Sustainer and am a slide player. You have inspired me to press on. Thanks. Please post more!;
Thank you! Im glad you appreciated it. This device is a gold for small gigs and I also use it on my records. May be you have some questions about LE? I could make a video on it. Cheers!
I just bought a Line 6 Helix and with all the things that the Helix does great, it doesn't touch the ToneLab LE. After 10 years of use my LE died. It was having issues with the switches which I was able to repair but, I left the power plugged in to make sure the switches were working properly vs. reassembling testing the having to take it all apart again, which happened at least once during the repair. So, I fixed the faulty switch but when I went to put the back cover which is metal back on it hit the circuit board which caused a short electrical storm. ZAP! Okay, these things are getting more and more rare. I was noticing that I needed to add more and more pedals on to get sounds like the fuzz from Smashing Pumpkins, or a heavy distortion from Sevendust. I have Bias Amp on my iPad which I ran in the FX loop as an insert when I need those tones I wasn't able to achieve with the on board amps. The thing that the Helix does not do well is dynamics. For example, the solo to Bell Bottom Blues from Eric Clapton has a spot in the solo where he rolls the volume back and plays pick harmonics. The Helix cannot do that. The intro delay to Welcome To The Jungle, I could easily dial that setting in with the Vox. With the Helix, not so much.
So the tone lab sounds really good?
The Helix is great....now
I picked up one of these (with a loose bank up switch that I fixed in 1/2 hour) in GREAT condition for $80 CDN.
I am using one already for 10 years. I also have a line6 HD500x but that one is collecting dust. I prefer the Vox. I think it's the best processor for a nice crunch. The in between tones that you can nicely clean up by simply turning back the volume. For Hi gain search something else.. A loose pedal is a common problem. You need to open the device and tighten a screw with an allen key. If you search on google you'll find video's showing how. I use it as a preamp. WIth a tech 21 poweramp or in the effect return of whatever amp is available. Tube replacing is quite fiddly.. Unscrew bottom, one screw on the PCB board holding the tube. All screws on the backside including the plastic ones around the in/outputs, and then PCB board containing the tube is accessible. Carefully pull the tube, and re-insert a new one. I've done this once when I had a strange ticking sound in the marshall amps. it's an electro harmonix 12ax7
Also you should setup the voltage for the new tube. Check out my recent tutorial: th-cam.com/video/Vgff2AccVMc/w-d-xo.html
you still have the HD500X?
@@paulzeofficial Yes still collecting dust. I need to admit I don't use the Vox too nowadays.. I got a new toy called Mooer GE300... ;-)
@@Rico_van_Manen ever consider giving it away or selling it?
@@Rico_van_Manen it's kinda hard to get my hands on those HD500x here because it gets too expensive here in my country even used.
Good demo! Awesome and IMO best natural sounding modeler!
What a great sound at 14:00..
I Own one but bought a Zoom g5 and Love it ! But from you listing what you use in your presets everytime your using the Vox 212 cab ! I was always using the V30 and the UK 75 and after using the Zoom g5 the Tonelab le sounded like it blanket over the speakers ! Think your on to something here with using the Vox cab so I'll have to pull out of the box and give it go!Good preset tones by the way! Cheers
Hi everyone! This is the Tube Replacement tutorial you asked for:
th-cam.com/video/Vgff2AccVMc/w-d-xo.html
Do u use different tubes than what the vox comes with? Can I put a TS 808 tube in the Vox?
@@childofgod9662 Hi! I replaced the stock one with 12ax7 tube by Tungsol and everything works fine. Yes, sure, you may use TS in front of it, in IMPUT but you should turn the Pedal section off. Also I use my Crybaby pedal in front of vox instead of stock one.
i own one n its great n real amp models are very real buy one u will not regret it
Hi Nice review, how heavy is the pedal? 🤔
Hello
How can I edit the patches on the computer?
Genius, I really liked your video! but do you have any idea if it is very different in sound from the previous Tonelab SE? I had that one, it was very good. thanks friend!
Thank you my friend! I can't tell you anything about SE because I never tried it. But I guess there's not much difference.
My tonelab sounds like junk on the cleans. Maybe I'm just spoiled from the AC15C2 but I'm starting to resent the tone lab thru my PA. Is it worth changing the tube?
mine doesnt have same presets, is there a firmware?
I currently have the BOSS GT100, would you recommend I exchange it for the VOX Tonelab LE?
Nice! Can you make a video or write how to make a loop (long enough to solo over it). Tnx
It does not have a looper function, so you will need a dedicated looper pedal.
@@rikkifrederiksen2935 Thanks!
Hey therme, nice vid! I just bought one and it sounds great. But the expression Pedal is a little loose. IT takes about 1 cm down or upward motion until IT grabs. Has anybody had that Problem before and Hot a tip how to fix it?
Cheers
I have owned a ToneLab LE since 2007 and this is probably my biggest quam with this board. So what you need to do is unscrew the backing. There are also 2 or 3 black screws where the inputs/outputs are that you will also need to unscrew. Oh, most important is make sure you do not have the board plugged into the wall outlet. There are 2 spots that usually get loose over time. Let me see if I can find the video to walk you through it.
th-cam.com/video/1X4Srt0Jg04/w-d-xo.html
hi brou, you still have this machine?? i have one, i think its sounds great, but i feel it is lack of range in ecualizer. i compare it to a boss gt100, and eq is much more agresive on gt100, even it has a parametric eq. anyway i think tonelab sound great emulating preamps but more eq i really needed, so if i add an external eq pedal coud be the way to hear all the power of my stratocaster in cleans and distortions?? hope someone answer before i selling it and get a boss gt100 :/ that pedalboard can create awesome cleans and powerfull distortions, but i really like how vox sounds, like real tube amp. BUT EQ IS SO IMPORTANT TO MY STYLES I NEED THE BRIGTHNES CLEANS AND POWERFULL MID AND BASS, i feel tonelab le dont get me there.... but maybe the solution is just a simpl eq pedal what you say people you have more time discovering this unit, i sold it and buy a gt100?, or just buy an eq pedal an add it to the voxtonelab le?
Hi my friend! I would suggest you to find an EQ pedal and to test it In front and in fx loop of tonelab. If the result is not satisfying then buy gt100.
@@eugenscobioala ty bro, in case of sold it whats the price on dollars that i coud ask for it, just estimated, its hard to value this unit today...
Really useful !
Which one is Screamer and JMC 800?
Excellent video, thanks. Is this a more updated version of the SE? Have you played the SE and if so, in your opinion, how do the two differ?
Hi! LE has 24bit processor compared to 20bit of SE. The first is a new five-mode amp/line out voiced specially for various applications, from playing into different amp types to direct recording to live performance through a PA system. The “Line 2” amp/line setting features an all-new three band Master EQ section modeled after one of the most acclaimed live mixers ever manufactured. This allows you to EQ the sound of your Tonelab LE to suit any room or sound system. For greater flexibility in recording applications, we’ve added a S/P DIF output. The acoustic simulator now offers the choice between three popular acoustic guitar types plus a resonator. Finally, the new Tonelab wouldn’t be complete without some new effects! A new “metal distortion” sound will satisfy your need for extreme gain. I have to say JCM800 on LE is more realistic as on SE model. And of corse, it's lighter.
@@eugenscobioala excellent. thanks for your informative response. bit of a beginner here. does the LE have an mobile/computer/laptop device input for playing along with recorded backing tracks? i'd like to use it directly to practice silently via headphones to various backing tracks.
@@checkeredflagfilms Unfortunately no. I would say: LE is as simple in use as it's possible and works excelent in Line or in front of an amp. It's awesome for rehearsals or the small gigs and it sounds amazing. But it's a device from 2005 and you should understand it wasn't planned as a workstation like a lot of modern processors does.
hi, better to choice this one or nux mg 300?
I have a tonlab st, do you recommend changing the factory bulb, or does it make no difference?
Hi! I can tell you if there is no sound issues or excess of noise and hum you don't need to replace anything. I had changed the tube because the stock one was too old and a could hear too low signal volume.
Sounds good. Is it usb line recording sounds? It's really tube sounds!
Hi! No, it doesn't have USB port.
Ola amigo tudo bem...eu tenho uma pedaleira vox le ..gosto de U2. E gostaria de timbrar a musica pride. Mas nao consigo regular o delay.. .vc pode me ajudar por favor..ja escrevi para muitos ..mas ninguem me ajuda
Has anybody else had the problem of one of the saved Banks example #1 not switching to bank number 2 3 or 4 ? Like something inside got stuck and won't allow you to go to your other saved tones
I had this happen to mine over time. The design of the foot switches is such that there is a metal spring under the buttons that contacts micro switches soldered to the PCB. Over time the spring compress to where they don’t put enough pressure to activate the contact switches underneath.
In my case the fix was very simple. I took the unit apart and gently tugged on the springs to stretch them back out a bit. It works perfect again. Very responsive to the foot switches.
Be careful doing this though. If you pull too hard on the springs you could easily break one of them. They’re not very big and they look like they would be pretty difficult to replace.
Best of luck!
Still using it?
Hi, I've been using it for the last 10 years. But i need to open it and clean the buttons, half of them don't work properly. :)
how would you sound with a vox valvetronic vt 40?
hello which HP sim did you use in the TLE ? AP1 ? or else ?
Hello! Im using LN2 mode live and for recordings through interface too.
@@eugenscobioala thanks ! super sound !
Does the amp im ussing make a difference?
👍👍👍
can I conect it direct to the amplifier? I have a Line 6 spider V 60 watts amplifier.
Sure! LE has "Amp/Line" button where you can choose how to use it: in front of an amp or in the fx loop directly to the power amp.
@@eugenscobioala Thanks!
Anyone know how to copy a preset from one location to another on this thing? I can't find it in the manual
Get a Midi to USB cable , Audio M, and use the software interface. there you can select what location you want to save to. I use a Win10 PC and it works fine.
Do you use it in Front of the amp or in the fx loop?
Hi! I use it Line in.
Nice vid bro! Did you just plug it as an line-in input to the interface? I've got one and imho it sounds terrible plugged to the amp (I'm using Orange Crush 35RT) when the cab is on. Could you please advice anything?
Hello my friend! Yes, I use "Line 1" output mode direct into my interface. Vox LE has more options for output mode, Line 1, Line 2, Amp 1, Amp 2, Amp 3. It depends on where you plug the unit, ex. in front of the amp, in fx return (read the manual). You should choose the mode and turn off Cab sim.
@@eugenscobioala Thanks a lot for your help dude! I'll check out the manual and 'll try to set it in a right way :)
Which replacement tube?
Ok. I'll make a tutorial video how to replace tube soon!
@@eugenscobioala yes pls. make one, and question how would you know if you need to replace the tube.
@@azpg13 Thank you. The tube in LE is not supposed to a high voltage that's why a new tube will have a long term life. You should replace it in 2 cases: 1) if it doesn't work and the signal is to low. 2) if you can not setup voltage for it. I'll show how to replace and setup voltage in a video this week
@@eugenscobioala is it ok if i ask for your email, i'll send some videos of my Vox LE, i'm not sure what's seem to be the problem.
@@azpg13 Sure! eugen.scobioala@gmail.com
Совсем не русский акцент😁👍
А шо делать? 😁
2007 not 2005.
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