I have to say it again - this content is such a gift! Even though I am quite and experienced dressage rider, I am learning so much from you. I have a three year old, so this has given me some great direction and ways to improve my training.
Thank you so much Alicia. What an awesome video. I learnt so lot. Wow Mowgley isn't a bronking horse anymore.... Yay!!. He is really coming along so nicelt
I love your attitude and sharing of so much useful content, Alicia. Thank you! I tried double-lunging my OTTB this morning for the first time and it was interesting. I'd been using a single lunge line with my horse kitted with a surcingle + reins + neck stretcher - he kept his head down but he wasn't taking contact (everything was loose). This 2-line system looks more useful. However, my horse (I'll call him "Mr Horse") didn't like the feel of the outer line on his backside and had a few eruptions (to the point that I released the outer line) and a few stand-stills and back-ups (when I tried to get him to move forward), initially. Eventually, he relaxed in to the lunge, with occasional breaks when I put too much pressure on with the lunge whip. Mr Horse is middle-aged (like me!) and has not been asked (by me, mostly) for consistent rein contact under saddle and I'm trying to get him to take the contact and (1) not raise his head when we move from rest to walk or walk to trot, and (2) not over bend his neck to avoid the bit/contact. I realize I should reframe this to say that I'd like him to keep his head down as he moves between gaits and accept the contact (and look for it), as it's more positive! This double line activity looks promising and I will keep trying it. I've watched this video a few times, learning more with each view. By the way, do you have a suggestion for how to address contact evasion by over-bending the head beyond the vertical? I'd love advice on this.
Hi Jen, great question. Sounds like you are the right track with not using too much pressure with whip and taking time. It will take a some repetition of encouraging him to relax over the back, then if you want him to reach more forward to the bit instead of sitting behind the contact try using transitions between trot and canter as in the canter he will move more forward and also use some slight leg yielding to assist with suppleness. Let me know how you go with this ✨
This is beautiful! Really helpful Alicia. This is a different set up to the way I've set up double-lunge, & I'm keen to try this. This series is great for identifying/understanding the tools to progress an unschooled horse. Being able to go back & analyse how you progressed to where you're at with Mogs now, is great. Yr progress with him at the 4 month mark, on yr 4 month videos- phenomenal! Maybe now you're at 6 months on, anyway great resources! Excellent tips. Training a couple of our horses & keen to keep applying your knowledge & tips. Keep it up, please. ❤🐴🐎🙏
Amazing! 🙌🏻 It’s been a long time since I’ve had a horse but the engagement and positivity here is helping me get through lockdown (Melbourne 😩) so when the time comes for another horse I know where to find so much great info 😊
Comments like this make it all worthwhile! Hang in there and yes keep up with all the dressage chat because it will keep you focussed on something other than lockdown 💕
This is delightful. He has come such a long way in such a short time. Good job Alicia! Do you have a tip for a horse that doesn‘t accept the lungeline at the hind legs? My mare is a bit spooky with the lunge touching her in the back…
Thank you 🤩 Best way it is take it slow with the double lunge and it might be that you need to stick to one lunge only if it upsets her too much. Also ensure you secure it as shown in the video so it does not slip down as that can also worry the horses. Good luck x
@@YourRidingSuccess thanks for answering :) I think she is just a bit upset because she doesn't know it yet. So slow and calm will probably do the trick :D Also I've seen people put the outside lunge over the horses back, do you have thoughts on that?
@@dreamingtani5411 Not sure if you still need an answer, but I'm here with one :) double lunging is good for multiple things, but when the second lunge line is over the back instead of behind the horse, it doesn't do as much. All it really does then is help steering, but you shouldn't really need that with lunging. And you can kind of use the lines as long reins then, so you could maybe get some more collection more easily. But the lunge line behind the horse, also helps the horse use his hindquarters right. I'm currently doing a lot of desensitisation with my Irish cob with the lunge line because she's also terrified of things touching her hindquarters because she cannot see it then
@@nala8223 thanks for your answer! I actually started with the line over her back (more like long reigning) just to get her comfortable with the outside line existing :D By now I can comfortably work her with the double lunge, it took her a while but slow and steady did the trick! Good luck with your cob! I'm sure you'll get her to accept it soon :)
I'm doing so good on ride ing my and I want to thank you and you keep up with your ride ing success and it is helping me with my ride ing my horse and I have all the conference win I ride my horse and keep up with your videos that is want I help my ride ing my horse thank you so much Nannette
Loving this series, it’s helping me bring a rescue horse into work. I was wondering how many sessions like this (lunging, riding etc) you do a week with mowgley?
Happy you are loving the videos! Alicia did a great answer to this question on her Q and A, here is the link th-cam.com/video/qd7D4TMrBiQ/w-d-xo.html and the question is at about 15:58 minutes in. Hope this helps ✨
Thanks for your video ☺️ I’ve been wondering if you could long line with an adaptation of how you fix your inside rein, to long line them out on the straight and be able to change direction. Do you think there would be anything detrimental about this before I try it? Thanks
Thanks for the video! How do you get your hard mouthed horse to accept the bit on a lunge? My horse just sticks his head in the air and will not go into frame even with side reins on. Thanks.
Hi there, with horses that are using their body in a hollow way across the back and head in the air, more often than this is because they are not supple in the body and struggling to relax over the back and connect into the bridle. Try starting with the lunging in the same way Alicia started with Mowgley and taking it slow until the horse understands what is asked of them. Hope this helps x
Learning to double lunge and need to be able to keep my guy out on the circle. He will come into the circle and my space. I use the whip to push his shoulder over, but need help with my driving aids.
Great job! Remember to keep the rein on the inside connected... make the circle smaller so you have this at all times, then use the whip as a guide to push him out x
Absolutely love these videos! There is a horse that I’ve been prepping for double lounging but the second you ask for a canter she gets anxious and slams on the breaks. In this case would you keep lounging with the one lounge line until she’s more comfortable?
Check your cues and aids.. also, can she walk, trot, canter, change length on the lunge with or without sidereins without falling in or out? Your basics may need work..
Great question, firstly ensure there is no reason for the horse to be stopping so make sure teeth are not sharp, horse is not sore in the body and then yes, go back to one lunge line and work on the canter until the horse is comfortable and relaxed with cantering. It might be that the horse is struggling with the pressure of two reins which make the horse more upright in the balance. Hope this helps ✨
Thanks so much for this video! I started double lunging my OTTB about a month ago and even though it was hurting my brain with the co ordination, my perseverance is starting to pay off. Sometimes I find it easier to not use the whip and just use my voice. Would you do this once a week?
Hi there! So good to hear you are finding your groove with the lunging. You can lunge as much or as little as you need - biggest thing is to think about the goal of why you are lunging and then work out how many times to do it x
@@YourRidingSuccess You can also use an old stirrup leather to connect them together underneath the belly/girth erea. If you put them tight enough to fit a hand in between its safe so no hoofs get caught when in a happy mood. I was thinking if he ever turns around to the outside you have a stirrup flying next to him when thats your new inside rein. No hate at all if this works for you it works ❤
Hi Alecia,, I love this OTTB series. I have a 5 yr old since he was 3. I started out well w him. Than 6 months in the training he started rearing. My worst fear since my past TB reared on me in 2005 & fell on me, fractured my pelvic bone. I have restarted my current guy w your exercises. I am going to do the doubled lunging tomorrow. I will say in my current horse's issue's, he also got diagnosed with EPM in June and is on a 2nd does of treatment. I am working on the ground now and following your exercises. I hope for a full recovery but am also concerned that his behavior might be learned. He is lazy but also explosive. Any advice?
Hi Kimberlee - firstly please be careful as the last thing you want is to get hurt again! With rearing it means the horse is very behind your leg, so it is essentially standing still but on two legs. Work on your horses suppleness which will allow his body to be more freely forward and ensure the horse is responsive to your aids and stays "in front of your leg" so when you ask the horse responds. Good luck and please be careful first and foremost. x
One of the differences between the two is that here you have individual control over the reins and their adjustment where as with the pessoa set up it is all joined and then one control back to you as the handler.
Definitely not a fan of double lunging i have seen way way to many injuries that sent horses and handlers to hospitals to think this is worth while. I personally dont lunge with a line at all all my horses have free lunged around me learnt off line in a round pen.... I know theyre totally different methods but i couldnt be the one to take those kinds of risks...
@@loredelore7286 I was addressing Samantha.. ie why she probably sees wrecks.. I don't work in round pens.. lunge line and long lines when appropriate.. I am a proponent of SRS methods..
I think done improperly double lunging could potentially cause an injury, but doesn't that go for almost anything you do with horses? If done correctly with the proper steps and preparation, I think that double lunging is a valuable tool that in the end helps the horse and rider be much safer under saddle.
I really love this channel🤍 It really helped me with my riding and my horses. i’m not dressage rider, I’m a jumper and I improved so much and my horses as well.
I have to say it again - this content is such a gift! Even though I am quite and experienced dressage rider, I am learning so much from you. I have a three year old, so this has given me some great direction and ways to improve my training.
Our pleasure! Happy that you are enjoying the videos 🦄
Thank you so much Alicia. What an awesome video. I learnt so lot. Wow Mowgley isn't a bronking horse anymore.... Yay!!. He is really coming along so nicelt
Thank you so much 🙏🏻
these videos mean so much to us who don't have an IRL mentor. Thank you!
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I love your attitude and sharing of so much useful content, Alicia. Thank you! I tried double-lunging my OTTB this morning for the first time and it was interesting. I'd been using a single lunge line with my horse kitted with a surcingle + reins + neck stretcher - he kept his head down but he wasn't taking contact (everything was loose). This 2-line system looks more useful. However, my horse (I'll call him "Mr Horse") didn't like the feel of the outer line on his backside and had a few eruptions (to the point that I released the outer line) and a few stand-stills and back-ups (when I tried to get him to move forward), initially. Eventually, he relaxed in to the lunge, with occasional breaks when I put too much pressure on with the lunge whip. Mr Horse is middle-aged (like me!) and has not been asked (by me, mostly) for consistent rein contact under saddle and I'm trying to get him to take the contact and (1) not raise his head when we move from rest to walk or walk to trot, and (2) not over bend his neck to avoid the bit/contact. I realize I should reframe this to say that I'd like him to keep his head down as he moves between gaits and accept the contact (and look for it), as it's more positive! This double line activity looks promising and I will keep trying it. I've watched this video a few times, learning more with each view. By the way, do you have a suggestion for how to address contact evasion by over-bending the head beyond the vertical? I'd love advice on this.
Hi Jen, great question. Sounds like you are the right track with not using too much pressure with whip and taking time. It will take a some repetition of encouraging him to relax over the back, then if you want him to reach more forward to the bit instead of sitting behind the contact try using transitions between trot and canter as in the canter he will move more forward and also use some slight leg yielding to assist with suppleness. Let me know how you go with this ✨
This is beautiful! Really helpful Alicia. This is a different set up to the way I've set up double-lunge, & I'm keen to try this. This series is great for identifying/understanding the tools to progress an unschooled horse. Being able to go back & analyse how you progressed to where you're at with Mogs now, is great. Yr progress with him at the 4 month mark, on yr 4 month videos- phenomenal! Maybe now you're at 6 months on, anyway great resources! Excellent tips. Training a couple of our horses & keen to keep applying your knowledge & tips. Keep it up, please. ❤🐴🐎🙏
Hello Benita! Thank you for your comment and for sharing your thoughts! We are loving the support!
Mowgley is a doing absolutely amazingly!
Thank you, we think so!
I’m going to go back to double lunging my six year old off track thoroughbred. I think this will be really beneficial for her. Thank you!
You can do it!
Amazing! 🙌🏻 It’s been a long time since I’ve had a horse but the engagement and positivity here is helping me get through lockdown (Melbourne 😩) so when the time comes for another horse I know where to find so much great info 😊
Comments like this make it all worthwhile! Hang in there and yes keep up with all the dressage chat because it will keep you focussed on something other than lockdown 💕
After he cantered...his trot was really nice!
Great pick up! The canter always makes the trot improved so very cool that you noticed!
Great video once again, thanks very much. I shall definitely be doing this with my mare who struggles with the canter transition x
Glad it was helpful! xx
He looks so happy 😀
He is such a lovely horse to work with, and really enjoys his work ✨
This is delightful. He has come such a long way in such a short time. Good job Alicia!
Do you have a tip for a horse that doesn‘t accept the lungeline at the hind legs? My mare is a bit spooky with the lunge touching her in the back…
Thank you 🤩 Best way it is take it slow with the double lunge and it might be that you need to stick to one lunge only if it upsets her too much. Also ensure you secure it as shown in the video so it does not slip down as that can also worry the horses. Good luck x
@@YourRidingSuccess thanks for answering :) I think she is just a bit upset because she doesn't know it yet. So slow and calm will probably do the trick :D Also I've seen people put the outside lunge over the horses back, do you have thoughts on that?
@@dreamingtani5411 Not sure if you still need an answer, but I'm here with one :) double lunging is good for multiple things, but when the second lunge line is over the back instead of behind the horse, it doesn't do as much. All it really does then is help steering, but you shouldn't really need that with lunging. And you can kind of use the lines as long reins then, so you could maybe get some more collection more easily. But the lunge line behind the horse, also helps the horse use his hindquarters right. I'm currently doing a lot of desensitisation with my Irish cob with the lunge line because she's also terrified of things touching her hindquarters because she cannot see it then
@@nala8223 thanks for your answer! I actually started with the line over her back (more like long reigning) just to get her comfortable with the outside line existing :D By now I can comfortably work her with the double lunge, it took her a while but slow and steady did the trick! Good luck with your cob! I'm sure you'll get her to accept it soon :)
I'm doing so good on ride ing my and I want to thank you and you keep up with your ride ing success and it is helping me with my ride ing my horse and I have all the conference win I ride my horse and keep up with your videos that is want I help my ride ing my horse thank you so much Nannette
Great to hear! 💕
thank you was waiting for this one going to try it with my new horse!
Good luck!! Let us know how you get on x
Loving this series, it’s helping me bring a rescue horse into work. I was wondering how many sessions like this (lunging, riding etc) you do a week with mowgley?
Happy you are loving the videos! Alicia did a great answer to this question on her Q and A, here is the link th-cam.com/video/qd7D4TMrBiQ/w-d-xo.html and the question is at about 15:58 minutes in. Hope this helps ✨
Alicia Mowgley thinks your are marvelous and he is right!
Love this!!! Thank you 🙏🏻
Thanks for your video ☺️ I’ve been wondering if you could long line with an adaptation of how you fix your inside rein, to long line them out on the straight and be able to change direction. Do you think there would be anything detrimental about this before I try it?
Thanks
This is an interesting question and one that I think would be best for Alicia to answer, so I will ask her to do a response - stay tuned ✨
Thanks for the video! How do you get your hard mouthed horse to accept the bit on a lunge? My horse just sticks his head in the air and will not go into frame even with side reins on. Thanks.
Hi there, with horses that are using their body in a hollow way across the back and head in the air, more often than this is because they are not supple in the body and struggling to relax over the back and connect into the bridle. Try starting with the lunging in the same way Alicia started with Mowgley and taking it slow until the horse understands what is asked of them. Hope this helps x
Thank-you!
Learning to double lunge and need to be able to keep my guy out on the circle. He will come into the circle and my space. I use the whip to push his shoulder over, but need help with my driving aids.
Great job! Remember to keep the rein on the inside connected... make the circle smaller so you have this at all times, then use the whip as a guide to push him out x
Mowgli seems to have a good head on his shoulders! He's a quicker learner, I think...
He certainly is! He is a smart, sweet horse
I’m so lucky, my Ottb is 38 days of the track, and I’m riding him…
Sounds great! Good luck! Hope you are enjoying the series x
Thank you for sharing everything you. I really look forward to your videos 🤍 can you help re not getting dizzy when lunging? Love to Mowgley 🥕
Thank you 🙏🏻 With lunging if they are not too close on a small circle you shouldn't get dizzy! Good luck!!
would love to do this, but i don't think i'm that coordinated hahaha
Go for it!!
Absolutely love these videos! There is a horse that I’ve been prepping for double lounging but the second you ask for a canter she gets anxious and slams on the breaks. In this case would you keep lounging with the one lounge line until she’s more comfortable?
Check your cues and aids.. also, can she walk, trot, canter, change length on the lunge with or without sidereins without falling in or out? Your basics may need work..
Great question, firstly ensure there is no reason for the horse to be stopping so make sure teeth are not sharp, horse is not sore in the body and then yes, go back to one lunge line and work on the canter until the horse is comfortable and relaxed with cantering. It might be that the horse is struggling with the pressure of two reins which make the horse more upright in the balance. Hope this helps ✨
Thanks so much for this video! I started double lunging my OTTB about a month ago and even though it was hurting my brain with the co ordination, my perseverance is starting to pay off. Sometimes I find it easier to not use the whip and just use my voice. Would you do this once a week?
Hi there! So good to hear you are finding your groove with the lunging. You can lunge as much or as little as you need - biggest thing is to think about the goal of why you are lunging and then work out how many times to do it x
How do you get your horse to leg yield on the lunge?
Paula! Do you mean when lunging on a circle or long lining? x
Do you ever tie your stirrups together under the horse when double lungeing?
Hi there, no only the way you see in the videos which is to secure them up each side if not using or use the outside stirrup as shown in this video ✨
@@YourRidingSuccess You can also use an old stirrup leather to connect them together underneath the belly/girth erea. If you put them tight enough to fit a hand in between its safe so no hoofs get caught when in a happy mood. I was thinking if he ever turns around to the outside you have a stirrup flying next to him when thats your new inside rein. No hate at all if this works for you it works ❤
How do I send you a video would like to know if you think my horse looks ready to move onto double reins
Hi Carol, for some personalised help with your horse you can email us at support@yourridingsuccess.com ✨
Do you need to longe with the saddle, or can you use a lunging girth?
Super question, you can use either. Here Alicia is using the saddle as she is preparing Mowgley for riding so wearing the saddle is part of that 🤩
I’m just curious if he has been tested for PSSM 1 or 2?
Hi there, I can find out for you, were you curious for a reason? x
im so bad at the posting trot any tips to help me improve my riding?
Have you seen Alicia's videos on improving your position off the horse?
@@YourRidingSuccess no 😅
Hi Alecia,, I love this OTTB series. I have a 5 yr old since he was 3. I started out well w him. Than 6 months in the training he started rearing. My worst fear since my past TB reared on me in 2005 & fell on me, fractured my pelvic bone. I have restarted my current guy w your exercises. I am going to do the doubled lunging tomorrow. I will say in my current horse's issue's, he also got diagnosed with EPM in June and is on a 2nd does of treatment. I am working on the ground now and following your exercises. I hope for a full recovery but am also concerned that his behavior might be learned. He is lazy but also explosive. Any advice?
Hi Kimberlee - firstly please be careful as the last thing you want is to get hurt again! With rearing it means the horse is very behind your leg, so it is essentially standing still but on two legs. Work on your horses suppleness which will allow his body to be more freely forward and ensure the horse is responsive to your aids and stays "in front of your leg" so when you ask the horse responds. Good luck and please be careful first and foremost. x
your outfit is beautiful where is it from.
Thank you so much! It is mostly from Divosa!
Off topic: he’s gorgeous
Thank you :)
A bit liker a pesoa eh!
One of the differences between the two is that here you have individual control over the reins and their adjustment where as with the pessoa set up it is all joined and then one control back to you as the handler.
I still don’t really get it
Sorry
Hi Holly! We would love to help you understand! Are there certain aspects of the double lunging you don't understand?
I might have to try this with my horse, I have vids on my channel of all my horses you should check it out :)
Thank you! ✨
Definitely not a fan of double lunging i have seen way way to many injuries that sent horses and handlers to hospitals to think this is worth while. I personally dont lunge with a line at all all my horses have free lunged around me learnt off line in a round pen.... I know theyre totally different methods but i couldnt be the one to take those kinds of risks...
Longlining(2 reins) is a great tool.. it's not for green horses or trainers.. as you correctly have witnessed..what could go wrong?
@@audreye7078 Alicia is not a novice so there is no risk to horse or handler
I am guessing that you don't like long reining either? Double lungeing is just long reining on a circle.
@@loredelore7286 I was addressing Samantha.. ie why she probably sees wrecks.. I don't work in round pens.. lunge line and long lines when appropriate.. I am a proponent of SRS methods..
I think done improperly double lunging could potentially cause an injury, but doesn't that go for almost anything you do with horses? If done correctly with the proper steps and preparation, I think that double lunging is a valuable tool that in the end helps the horse and rider be much safer under saddle.
I really love this channel🤍 It really helped me with my riding and my horses. i’m not dressage rider, I’m a jumper and I improved so much and my horses as well.
Love this feedback! xx