SONY A7IV vs FX3 in Slow motion! Not what I thought...
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- SONY A7IV vs FX3 in Slow motion! Not what I thought...
What do you guys think? Is 1080p still usable from the A7IV?
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I absolutely love my Sony A7IV and A7SIII, they both compliment each other quite nicely and 4K@120 is fire. Nice video of the family Jason.
Watching it on my MacBook Pro 16 inch and yeah, the 4K from the FX3 is clearly better/sharper/clearer than the 1080p from the A7IV. Doesn’t mean that the 1080p is useless. If I didn’t know I was watching two different picture qualities, not sure I would have thought about it...
Absolutely. That’s the key there. If we didn’t see the 4K we wouldn’t have noticed anything
Loving how much fun your family had participating in your video. It brought up warm memories of when my daughter was that age. This is a very helpful video as I learn more about my A7IV every time you compare it to another camera. Thank you for your a7IV demos!
I feel we are a lucky generation to have these incredible cameras to capture these moments
I just love how your videos teach us how to get better at photography/videography and I started to get more and more information from you and it made me a lot better at my photography and videography skills so thank you so much🙏🏽 ps: weird question I know but what kind of watch are you wearing?
Great comparison video thanks! Any input on each of their photo quality and capabilities in your experience with the two?
The FX3 also has 1080p 240fps in S&Q mode, Its epic.
Yes it is. Looks pretty damn good
Looking for a new camera and this video is helping me a lot. Thanks man
Great Video Jason
What a lovely family ❤️ hope you all enjoyed your life Thanks for the review I owned 2 FX3 now
Very nice my friend
Recently came back from holiday where I did a lot of filming with my A7IV. Yeah, it always breaks my heart when I shoot 120fps in 1080p . The image just looks soft and pixilated even though the colours look good. Mind you, there are some ways to finesse the footage to bring it up a bit. But do I regret this purchase? Absolutely NOT! This has been my most desired camera for a long time! It ticks most of my boxes for what I want from a camera and I love the footage I get from it. Perhaps I might get a Topaz Labs license to do something about that 1080p slo-mo.
I have the a7sIII and the a7IV. The IV's 24/30p is nicely detailed, but the rolling shutter is still really bad. My biggest negative with the IV is the slow readout speed - which means lots of RS and poorer FPS compared to the 4+ year old a7III. I mostly use it as a crop camera for video, and in aps-c mode its brilliant. Its also my photo workhorse. But I still wish it was faster.
Thank you Jason. I am still enjoying my Sony A7 IV. Only crop makes me little upset but you can't have it all:)
Yes, the difference is really noticeable. I wanted to take a7c3, but I didn't have enough money. I took a74. As an alternative solution, I shoot 4K 60fps and slow it down with a "Twixtor" or "SpeedX" two times. Or I shoot in full hd 120fps, and with the help of a video enhancer I convert to 4K. I'll wait until the a7S IV comes out, then I'll upgrade :))
P.S. My like number is 333. Beautiful figure :)
love the small tripod which one is this?
Bruhhh, fuck me the FX3 quality is so unbelievably high compared to the rest, really is punching up to the other high end cinema cameras out there with that bitrate and bit depth, usually im not too surprised at the slight jumps in fidelity year to year but this comparison made me really want that FX3 soon haha, cheers for the solid vid bro, been super awesome stuff lately
Yeah bro. FX3 is a solid boss legit
New Sony A7IV user here, coming from Canon R5, I miss 4k 120 hahaha…
But seeing this video, I know now that the 1080 120 isn’t bad at all! I’ll test it today! Thanks Jason
I have been strugling for a while because I wanted to get the A7Siii because of it's video features, but I want a camera that can also be used for stills. This video was really helpful, thank you so much for taking the time to create it, I think I will go for the A7iv and I will use the extra cash on some nice glass, I want it as my main camera since I already have the A7iii and I must say I love it :)
Buy the sony zv-e1, is the same for starting now
This post was a year ago, I got the A7siii and A7iv, I work a lot shooting videos for clients outdoors so, these cameras have 2 SD card slots and I just love how the body feels on my hands, thank you for your suggestion :) @@HARRISBRFX
Burliegh Heads is such a great location to shoot surfing 🤙🏄
Great analysis man, the shots also looked great as usual 👌
Yeah my bro. Burleigh heads is awesome. Did some down just past coolangatta too
Great video bro
Thank you my friend
Are there any negatives to shooting in S&Q mode? Or is it better to shoot 100fps and slow it down in post?
The FX3 looked fantastic. That 400mm GM is insane!
Yeah my bro. That 400mm GM lens is incredible
Hey Morris. How bout if you put the a7iv in crop mode ? A while back in your other video you mentioned filming in hd crop mode yielded amazing results … did this a apply with 100fps ?
Unfortunately clear image zoom doesn’t work in 100fps. Already too much processing for it’s power
Interesting. Firstly I said and crop mode/apsc mode. Not clear image zoom. Secondly I tried it on the 8 bit slow mo and it gave me great results. If anything there should be less processing as it’s using less sensor than full frame. As I said based on your previous video it should be a much cleaner image. Not 10 bit but cleaner less mushy. Love your work man. Lovely family.
May I ask why you don’t use the NTSC settings to get even more frames out of them (120fps and 240fps respectively)?
I have the A7 IV too and love it. As for the 100/120fps footage it's unfortunately really soft. I have made quite a few tests myself, comparing 120, 60 and 24 fps HD footage. The 60 and 24 fps footage is one of the sharpest HD footage I have seen but the 120 fps footage is really blurry in comparison. I'm sure in 120 fps mode it's not oversampling anymore, probably some pixel binning or line skipping and filtering. It's still very usable though so I'm not complaining too much :) For me it's one of the best hybrid cameras.
The 1080p is pretty decent compared to the other cameras. But can’t really compare 4k to 1080p. Nonetheless it still does well
You’re a legend bro
Thank you my friend
and here I was waiting on the 'we gonna try it on one of these (theme park) rides'
I just sold my A7C for the A7IV and I’m LOVING IT so far! However I do plan on buying the FX3 next and making the A7IV my B-Cam/stills camera! But I plan on investing in more lenses first since I only have one lens lol (sigma 24-70 f2.8)
That Sigma lens is a beast. Great upgrade choice
Same 😂 i also have an a7c … can you guide me should i upgrade to a74 or should i leave it and wait for next a75
Thats an unfair comparison, would have liked to see the A7vi at 60fps 4K 1.5 crop VS FX 3 at 4k at 60 fps - that would have been a better comparison, but still like what you do bro
Happy to report that Topaz Labs actually did the trick! The upscaling from this program turned out fantastic! The slo-mo is still there, and the video looks perfectly crisp. For $200, it may very well be a solution for A7IV users who want that 4K 120fps without paying the A7SIII/FX3 price tag.
I have to check this out
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema Fair warning, it's a power hungry program and takes a while to generate the footage. Check out Linus Tech Tips video about testing the software and its limitations.
To be honest, didn’t see a difference due to watching on mobile device, but I’m certain the difference is very noticeable when watching on a big screen.
I agree on your argument, if there is no professional work involved, the A7IV is more camera then most people need.
Sub from Germany 😉
Thank you my friend. Really appreciate your input here
You need the super expensive cf express card type a for 4k 120p all-i.
came here after seeing the instagram post. 🔥 🔥 🔥
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Hey Jason, I posed a question about a week ago on one of your earlier videos asking if I should get the A7IV or FX3. You told me I should go with the FX3 because it is more future proof.
I have actually changed my mind and am now deciding between the A7SIII and the A7IV. I really wanted to have a viewfinder with my camera. My budget is $3900.
Would you propose that I buy the A7SIII or the A7IV? I don't want any limitations to video, especially because I want to do client work and I'm afraid the 4k60 crop and the overheating might work against me sometimes. However, I do shoot photos for social media sometimes and I would like a camera that can take good photography for social media and self portrait photography(I shoot many photos of myself to post on social media).
I still have to buy a lens and lighting. I would buy a cheap prime if I bought the A7SIII and would have to save up for a better lens and lighting(shouldn't take long). With the A7IV, I would be able to get a lens and lighting because of how much cheaper the A7IV. However, I don't want to compromise on body quality and I want the one that is going to be most futureproof and the best camera for someone who does a lot of video and likes to take photos, but isn't mainly a photo shooter.
Which should I get? Thanks.
If I may add my comment to this...Might be able help make a decision.
I was also deciding between a7IV and a7SIII, and I got the the a7IV. The FX3 is the exact same camera as the a7SIII, and unless you need the few extras it has, which are all on the outside (except the brighter red frame on the fx3 indicating recording?) then I wouldn't get the FX3.
The 4K 120fps on the a7SIII is something I'm missing on the a7IV, but thats the only thing. The crop in 4k 60 doesn't matter as its oversampled 7k so I don't see any noticeable bad resolution from the crop, and I bought the Sony E 16mm f 2.8, goes for under a 100 bucks used, just to use for crop mode in 4k 60, so I get a 24mm equivalent in 4K 60 when it's cropped. Kind of a workaround. And now theres even that new 11mm APS-C lens from sony.
The a7IV has focus breathing compensation, the a7SIII doesn't and likely won't get it in that upcoming ''big firmware update'' where it likely will get the animal eye autofocus and that colored focus checking stuff, which the a7SIII currently doesn't have.
Also the newer body of the a7IV with the ability to switch between photo and video mode, and you can customize both modes, so you don't need to change settings all the time when switching. The a7SIII body feels just a bit more better built, the a7IV feels like a bit hollow, kind of, but just a bit, it doesn't feel bad or anything. Also the a7IV is better in lowlight, if in low ISO. At 12800 the a7SIII gets so clean again, and the a7IV cant keep up anymore. The a7IV is sharper though cause of the higher megapixel censor.
I will sell my a7IV when the a7SIV comes out. There was a 5 year gap between the a7SII and the a7SIII if I'm not wrong, so I guess the a7SIV will come in like 2-3 years? The a7IV will at that point sell better, with less loss than the a7SIII because the a7SIII will be the older camera, plus everyone will want the newer model, while the a7IV will still be the newest of the hybrids.
If you are worried about photos on social media, the a7SIII is good enough with 12mp, unless you wanna crop in a lot or make big prints you won't notice.
Hopefully this could help you in some way
Professional A7iv Videographer /Photographer here. If you don't need the 4k120 and I'm taking needing, not wanting the A7IV wins every time.
- cheaper (more money for lenses, light, etc)
- better photos (more MP)
- better 4k24 and 4k30 as it's 7k oversampling
- better lowlight up to 12.800, after that the FX3/a7siii wins
- 1.5 crop Mode for when you need it
- overheating can be prevented by flipping out the screen and opening the battery door, or you just go my route and use a VMount battery with a dummy battery. No overheating at all (just recorded a 4k24 interview for 2.5 hours yesterday in a room with around 27°c)
- 4k60 with the crop isn't a dealbreaker if you think about the lens choice
I bought the A7IV with the 24 1.4 GM and 85 Sigma DG DN 1.4 and it's a killer comb. still got my Tamron 17-28 and 28-75 for when I need the versatility.
and if you actually need the 4k120 from time to time, just rent the FX3 (in Germany around 60€ per day) as you already own some awesome glass for it
@@JonasBecker Thanks for the reply! I do worry about the overheating as it seems to be very inconsistent. Some people have no problems and others have problems even when changing the settings, opening the screen and battery compartment, and using a dummy battery. Maybe you can ease some of my following concerns.
• I do a lot of handheld and the rolling shutter makes me feel a little off put.
• I do worry about having to work around the crop
•The EVF is better on the A7SIII
•The A7SIII can shoot raw video
Overall, it seems the A7SIII was made for professional work and the A7IV was made for more hobbyist work(that's atleast what everyone who has done a review on this platform about the two has said). I want a camera that is going to hold up in the professional field and I worry that the A7IV will only be able to do that on the photography side of things and not the video as much despite its great video capabilities.
Many have said that the A7III was much better of a balance than the A7IV which seems to be slightly more oriented to photo. This is my entire thought process. I can get the more expensive, workhorse camera now and then save for lighting and better lenses which won't cost as much as the A7SIII. I can even start saving for lights, lenses and a B cam after that big purchase.
At the end of the day, it's all the same amount of money, but it sounds better to say "after spending $3900, I only have to save up another $2500-$3000 to get a B cam and lights," instead of saying "after spending $3900, I have to save another $3500 in order to get an A cam."
It seems to me that if you were to take a professional photographer and a professional videographer and give both of them the A7IV to shoot with for one day, the professional photographer would have a much better, fulfilled experience with the camera than the videographer would. The opposite would probably be true with the A7SIII. As someone who does video about 80-90% of the time, this worries me. I could be wrong, though. If I am, please feel free to correct me.
Maybe I am overthinking it. Do you understand what I am saying? Any advice you can give me or flaws that you can point out in my thought process? I appreciate it.
@@dinbali Thanks for the reply. I appreciate the added perspective!
Thanks everyone for helping in your opinions. Means a lot
makes sense
Yeah
Why do I get super noisy footage when I shoot 120fps on my sony fx30 even tho i'm exposed correctly ? :(
FX3-4K slow motion footage? Absolute Winner! Thanks for the real world tests. So, now it is about time that Sony should release: a7SIV and FX4 cameras!
I'll give it 1-2 more years for that!
love the video. I'll always go with Fx3.
little angel is so cute
if you shoot video and it's your thing just go fx3, it just is a pure workhorse and will never overheat on you either
WOW bro she's growing so quick :( I remember when she was a lil bubby :).
Haha yep. Too fast 😅😅
Did you try a7IV 100fps in apsc mode?
I have to make a video about that. That is a good point because the image is much different for a few reasons
Exactly! I cant try because I still dont have V90 card.. I am already looking forward to the video
Isn't the FX3 4K 120 FPS cropped?
She knows her cameras!
Yeo
I’ll be honest. Watching on my phone i couldn’t tell a difference. I’m sure on a big screen tv it would make a difference
Even on the bigger screen it isn’t crazy noticeable
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema yeah i know if i wasn’t looking for a difference and the 1080 was mixed in with the 4k i wouldn’t notice. I was too focused on your awesome shots man!
1080 120fps on the A7IV would be ok if it had 10 bit but you gotta switch to 8bit.
It is 10-bit. You have to go via S&Q.
@@DrWasim oh ok. I just need to grab v90 cards it looks like. Thanks
you need to shoot in All Intra 1080p in the S&Q mode
Yeah as mentioned in the intro you have to switch to S&Q mode for 10 bit
Did it continue to overheat?
Has never overheated on me even in Aussie summer
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema and have you tried the pocket 6k you prefer the Sony quality? I have the pocket and I’m debating if I sell it for the Sony
Seriously, what was the point of comparing 4k vs HD?
A lot of people still use 1080p. A lot of my corporate work deliverables is 1080p. Most clients don’t want 4K. It’s still not needed
Fx3 the best ❤
It’s a beast
So fx3 is better lol
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Really? People still shoot in HD? I had no idea! I’m being sarcastic of course. I haven’t shot regular HD in… God knows when. I shoot everything in 4K.. sometimes even 6K.. Comparing those two cameras like you did… Is kind of silly. It’s kind of like comparing a Tesla to a Ford focus. And the winner is…
Definitely not a silly comparison because they are for two different budgets that ultimately could me making content for the same market
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