Not really, the ME262 had an average engine life of only 15 hours, slow acceleration and turned into a slow glider when the ran out of fuel which was very quickly plus piston engine aircraft ran circles around it.@@whirlwindeddie2124
@@brianglenn526with what I know about WW11 disagree. The P 38 was an amazing aircraft pretty much in all theaters, due to its versatility, massive range and speed. They were used for reconnaissance, fighter missions, fighter/bomber intercept, bomber escort missions, bomber solo missions and we’re crucial for fighting Behind enemy lines and supporting covert operations with the SOE and OSS. One of its main drawbacks though with the fact that it’s pretty much the F 22 of today. It was expensive and extremely complicated with very finicky engines that required lots and lots of training which isn’t always abundant during wartime, So unfortunately there was more than a few accidents involving fatalities with this aircraft even in just normal flight not taking off or landing. The Germans called it the “Fork-Tailed Devil” and it was a constant thorn in the side of German military strategists. The Japanese nick named the lighting as well little less creative though 😂 “two planes one pilot”. In my opinion the plane was designed and built around the British Lancaster bomber success, but the p 38 was much better in every way I love her 😊.
Imagine you're an Allied pilot and something with no propeller looking like a bat flies right by faster than you've ever seen. The Me-262 and Me-163 must have seemed out of the future when first encountered.
it was used a few times. melted a few pilots with is tstoff fuel which is just like high test peroxide. melted their entire bodies into gelatinous goop
Except the Brits and US both had operational jet fighters that were coming into service as the war ended. Had the war lasted 2 more months, the P-80 would’ve seen combat in particular.
Man these guys had some balls. There's several shots where they are clearly only about 6-10ft off the ground strafing targets and pulling up at the absolute last second to avoid explosions or running into the target.
The 'Messerschmitt 109' at 9:41 is actually a French built Dewoitine D520, a fighter from the early part of the War. Many were requisitioned by the Luftwaffe and used as trainers.
Yep. Knew it wasn't a 109 but had to pause it to ID the plane. That cockpit sitting way behind the wings is a dead giveaway, and the wide landing gear couldn't be a 109.
Yeah but watching silent "British Pathe" reels just doesn't have the same kind of impact... ...and I'd rather dubbed engine and guns than some toxic music!
Never have i seen guncam of me 262 nor have I seen any of that footage. Great video. Keep it up. Also the guy @ 3:33 God almighty, if he was able to pull out of that ...he probably dropped off more than empty shell casings in the water.
Can we all quit the complaining about the sound? This was created to show home that the War was very real and not only some far off event. Way cool. Thanks for this.
The commenter saying that the pilots ejection was premature, but I say that if you're in front of the enemy in a dogfight and you have no speed nor altitude, that's probably the smartest option to avoid dying.
Interesting thing is, when you compare the gun camera footage from Europe and Pacific, how much more sturdy and durable the German planes were compared to Japanese. Planes here take a lot of hits and still fly, Jap planes take one bullet and burst into flames. Really shows the difference in construction and priorities for both nations.
That was especially true in early war Japanese planes like the Zero. They were designed to be highly maneuverable dog fighters first and foremost. The weren’t armored like Allied aircraft & didn’t have self sealing gas tanks, so they burst into flames. Light weight construction. Their maximum dive speed was limited. Their later war aircraft were much improved, but their rate of replacement production was low.
@@ZenosWarbirds Like the Germans too, they started to develop some very interesting and even futuristic designs late in the war, but they simply had no chance to make them even in small numbers, at least the Germans managed to their jets into the fight even if it was far too late to make a difference. Anyway it's fascinating to see how technology changed so relatively quickly during the war
Correct me if I am wrong, Japan never utilized self sealing tanks during the war. Everyone else did. Okay I'm not sure if the Italians did. But I'm pretty sure the UK and US and USSR and Germany did.
Some of the dives are insane. The low flying too on some of the airfields is ballsy asf. Fr like it’s at a point if you slowed down the footage it’d look like a car rolling up to a plane. Not a whole ass plane feet off the ground. Unbelievably brave.
The ME 262 jet and ME 163 rocket fighter are still impressive to watch even when getting shot down. Incredible technology for Nov 1944. Had the ME 262 operated in large numbers in 1943 - 45, daylight bombing would have been too costly. I have done a quick research on the 262s combat record and found that most losses were while getting jumped while landing or takeoff. There was a German pilot Franz Schall flying an ME 262 that shot down 10 mustangs and four heavy bombers. Another guy shot down 20 mosquitos. These pilots were very experienced but still impressive considering they were flying against the best allied planes and the 262 was built in tunnels using slave labour.
Agreed but even if they had been able to build lots of them they didn't have enough fuel or pilots to fly them by that time. These planes were at least three years too late for the Nazis- thankfully.
My former and later fellow flight instructor left cans of gun camera footage when he passed. We never knew if it was from his aircraft or just a general collection.
When I was in my early teens (early 1970s), my friends and I would go to the local arcade to play games. There was one game there in particular where, for a quarter, you could operate a seated WWII anti-aircraft gun to try and shoot down German aircraft. The game used actual WWII aerial footage of enemy planes. Once you got the sights set on a plane and began firing, the a bell would ring for every bullet that made its mark, racking up your high score! I got to be very capable on that game. The footage here reminds me of that arcade game!
@@jchapman8248 aw, it’s ok anyway I understand thanks tho! I would love to play that game but of course it’s getting outdated was the footage in color or black and white?
I remember a game probably older than that where you flew a WW1 biplane with a joystick. Probably an Atari arcade quarter game. The plane(s) were 3d blueprint outlines and not even solid looking. Still a pretty fun game in the day. Can't remember the name - maybe Barnstormer- or that might have been another game's name.
The sound effects are pre-recorded canned audio added in post production. These gun cameras were usually silent .i.e. no sound was recorded. That is why there is audio of a plane diving when the visuals show a plane in level flight.
An American pilot in his memoirs, said he was trained to shoot down enemy planes,but after seeing friends killed,he wanted to"stick his guns in the other guys cockpit and kill him !" .😟
Yeah the pilot probably heard his plane getting absolutely shredded and decided he wasn't hanging around to catch a bullet or for the plane to burn up around him. Or it was filled with so much lead the canopy latch was destroyed, which is honestly more likely.
Man i can tell how aggressive our pilots were. They were going in low and hard for some of these strafing runs and that one guy kept going back after that one aircraft went for a water landing. I mean he strafed him 3 to 4 times after presumably forcing a water landing. I love it.
Suddenly everyone is an experienced combat pilot, aeroengineer, historian and general it seems. Just watch the damn films and make your analysis later folks
the tech in from WWII amazes me, some how they were able to get video cameras small enough to be able to be reasonably fitted onto planes. The jets and rockets are very interesting too since it took another 20 years to get to space. Same with radar, I have no clue how they have been able to get radar stuff working at the end and after WWII without computers.
They weren’t video, they were film cameras. Film cameras are much more compact. (Video recording wasn’t yet invented in WW2, all TV was live or from film.) Radar doesn’t require computers - it’s analogue radio and CRT technology.
If you ever get the chance to see some of the US Navy fighters, they placed the camera access ports next to the panels where the wings folded. They would have a switch in the cockpit to begin the camera when entering combat. It was the first time pilots could look back on their encounters and look what they did right and wrong, allowing them to learn and use it to teach other pilots. Realistically, we got to space relatively sooner than that as well. Gargarin and Shepherd both reaching space by 1961.
There was a lot of analog computers used in ww2: the B-29 gun control, the Norden bombsight, the Torpedo Data Computer (TDC), the battleship Mk1A Gun Fire Control Computer. Plenty of videos on them on YT. Fascinating and impressive stuff.
I remember watching “The World at War” and there was gun camera footage of some poor bastard and a horse getting the treatment from 20mm cannon. Not nice. Interesting fact: The reason that there’s not much German aerial footage is due to the fact that most of the film was stored in Dresden.
They would have been used to seeing munitions stockpiles going off. It's hard to see in B&W but wagons carrying explosives were clearly marked to be handled carefully, so the pilot probably fired on it deliberately.
The twin engine aircraft under attack at 2:54 to 3:02 is an RAF Mosquito, both crew died. Its what we call these days 'blue on blue', an unfortunate factor of war, its a shame the US pilots recognition skills were not up to scratch that day. I assume when the film would have been downloaded back at base and reviewed the pilot would have been told.
I did some research on this. I was able to find another copy of this gun cam film that IDs the incident. It took place on 6th October, 1944. The American pilot was a 2nd Lt. in the 335th Fighter Squadron, flying a P-51 Mustang. It appears no one at the time, or later during the War realized it was a Mosquito. (Probably assumed it was an Me 410 or other German twin engine fighter. Encounters with Mosquitos in daylight in the air were probably rare.) I have no specific evidence of what happened to the Mosquito in question or it's crew. The American pilot was killed in action a month later, hit by flak, strafing a German airfield. He's buried in a military cemetery in Belgium. Out of respect for his family, I'm not identifying him here.
It’s even more of a shame that the producers and those that supplied them with this film, all acting without the stress of combat, made the same mistake.
Really impressive! From France, Thanks to these men for coming liberate my country ! I cannot imagine the vision of our elders, who saw these fights in the sky... For the anecdote, I live not far from Cézembre island. Germans fortified the island and guarded the sea with artillery. It's the most bombed site of the all WW2 per m², mainly by Allied aviation. 20,000 bombs over an area of 0.095km², almost 5 bombs per m²!!!
These newsreels cranked out almost every week during WW2. There was a war on, nobody really cared about the accuracy of the SFX. The voice over, music, engine, & machine gun sounds were added using analog Steenbeck sound editing tables with multiple spools of sound tapes - extremely slow, cumbersome & time consuming compared to todays digital video editing systems when meeting a deadline. BTW, this video has been viewed 450k times. The complainers represent a tiny fraction. That’s TH-cam😏
0:20 Is a trick Yeager dubbed, "rat catching". They''d loiter around a Luftwaffe air base, watching for any of the jets to either be taking off or landing, then pounce. The knew in that phase of flight, the ME 262 would be the most vulnerable. That Komet though, you had to stay the hell back, or the fuel residues would ruin your engine, and maybe injure you.
Really neat to actually see/hear abut the A-36, from what I remember it was less than a thousand or so made. I didn’t know they fought over the skies of Italy
Looks like the cameras picked up a couple of ME262s going into a flat spin in the first few vids. The German pilots never had the time to really learn those planes…good thing too.
The sound effects were added in 1944. The same ones were used over & over in documentaries & movies. No one cared. There was a war & the audience was there to see “Fighter Kills”
@@Armis71 I have produced many WW2 videos where I have added realistic sound effects sampled from actual aircraft & weapons when the original footage is silent. I don’t do that where there is original narration & SFX. That would be a disservice & disrespectful to the hard working men & women who produced these films during WW2, most of whom, as in this case, were serving personnel in the U.S. armed forces. That was their contribution to the war effort. More than 700,000 people have watched this film. A tiny minority have complained about the sound effects . I understand that some are ignorant & think that I produced the SFX, so I take the time to explain that they are original, 1944. Beyond that, I could care less about the opinions of a few armchair couch potato TH-cam critics.
Now after reading so many comments, I would just like to say how lovely @ZenosWarbirds is to reply to so many people; having to repeat themselves because a lot of people have commented about the same things. And each time, they have not just copied and pasted their reply, they have written it differently. Thanks for taking the time @ZenosWarbirds.
I've been subscribed to Zeno for years. I'm guessing from the plethora of silly comments that this must have turned up on a lot of kids' TH-cam recommendations recently. He's been flat out giving history lessons ever since... More patience than I'd have!
I'm sure I read somewhere that in the last years of the war the US removed tracer rounds from thier fighters. The kill ratio actually went up. You might notice this in some of the footage, no tracers.
But you might also notice observer rpunds (the flashes you see) those are rounds that explode to give an idication of the hit. Usually more reliable indication of your aim. Early war british observer rounds did not cause any real damage, while the german B Patrone (B cartridge) or Beobachterpatrone (Observer round) was pretty damaging for a rifle calibre round.
They definitely did that to the bombers due to their use giving gunners a false impression of trajectories. There is a video on youtube about it in detail but I cannot recall its name. I'm not sure that they did this to fighters. I know they used to make the last 50 or so rounds in the belts of P-51's and P-47's MG's tracers to give a visual cue to the pilot that they were low on ammo.
One factor viewers should be aware of are these guys getting shot down were overwhelmingly rookies cause they didn't have the luxury of sending veteran pilots home thousands of miles away to train the next batch of recruits like the US. These guys flew until they were killed in action.
Yeah, and that's Germany's fault. In the US when tankers had tanks repaired they sat around. In Germany, they literally sent them to the front lines in Russia. ... where they died. Japan also didn't appreciate human life, and started out better than the USA but by time they used up all their "heroes" there was nobody but kids left to fight. Shortsighted apathy led to their downfall.
When you focus for a second and remember this isn’t some abstract film you’re watching, but a literal life or death battle that actually happened, it is terrifying to be on either end of the gun.
Je suis tout à fait d'accord. Ils ont été utilisés par les Allemands en école de chasse. (I agree. they were used by the Luftwaffe in the fighting schools)
the cameras themselves seem to have a short telephoto lens but in post the image may have been cropped further, giving the effect of a more zoomed in image
The pilot in the video hits the ground target from the beginning of his shot, so his shooting is very good. In addition, the slow speed of the aircraft seems to give him plenty of time to correct his shooting. It must be an excellent aircraft that can fly stably even at low speeds.
Any pilot who wanted to survive strafing an airfield would have been wise to keep his speed up. The Germans never skimped on anti-aircraft guns and airfields were usually well-defended. In his book, "The Big Show", Tempest pilot Pierre Clostermann told how he and six other Tempests attacked a German airfield late in the War. Seven Tempests crossed the airfield boundary, two flew out the other side.
That low dive-shoot-pull up was an insane maneuver. Some mad skills these WW2 aviators had. Also that flying wing jet propelled aircraft must have given allied pilots some serious nightmares. If my history is correct allied forces didn't have anything that matched their speed, right?
@@kiwis0uth True, the Gloster Meteor never managed to see any war glory after WWII because the RAF deemed it unnecessary to deploy. The Luftwaffe was already being slaughtered by 1944 and the RAF considered it far too risky to deploy such an advanced weapon in the field as once again, it was too unnecessary to begin with. Not to mention that the Me 262 had a negligible impact on the course of the war because of Germany's scarce resources. That is in resources to produce the Me 262, manpower to produce it (most workers working on it were slave workers from concentration camps) and the fuel to even fly it.
Really great video. Respect to all fighter pilots, this stuff ain't easy. It looks like the weaponry isn't terribly accurate, but I suppose the automatic nature of them and the mass production warrants that. Seeing that plane crash and explode is pretty scary
Accuracy was actually pretty good. The vibrations of the engine, the guns blazing and the motion of the aircraft itself make for some pretty shaky camera footage. Add the tracers in and it looks like the rounds are out of control. Also, pilots could have the ground crew set their gun convergence to very near or farther out. If they had it set close the rounds would widen out pretty far when going for a train out at distance.
Wonderful editing of the news reel makers.. normally the pilots have about 2 sec to fire. But some in these reels are 10 to 15 sec opportunities. Mirrored images and so on.
Those young guys, the fighter pilots must have had a blast during the fear even though it was life and death they must have enjoyed the speed and thrill of flying and fighting to the death.
According to Robin Olds, pilot’s going into combat missions varied in their emotions. He was a very confident guy. Other pilots in his unit had nightmares the night before & some “lost their lunch” before flying. He said he had the utmost respect for them for the fear they overcame & still performed well.
The amount of comments complaining about the sound is ridiculous. Yet i bet those commenters are the same people who love over the top action scenes in movies and video games 😂😂😂
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My great uncle flew P-38s in Europe. Mostly flew ground support but managed two air to air kills. He even saw a Me-262 in combat once.
Lucky guy to made it past the Me-262
Not really, the ME262 had an average engine life of only 15 hours, slow acceleration and turned into a slow glider when the ran out of fuel which was very quickly plus piston engine aircraft ran circles around it.@@whirlwindeddie2124
P-38 was a beast in Pacific Campaign, but not as successful in Europe
An honest grandpa, seems like everyones grandpa shot down 2 me262’s and have 20 air to air kills
@@brianglenn526with what I know about WW11 disagree. The P 38 was an amazing aircraft pretty much in all theaters, due to its versatility, massive range and speed. They were used for reconnaissance, fighter missions, fighter/bomber intercept, bomber escort missions, bomber solo missions and we’re crucial for fighting Behind enemy lines and supporting covert operations with the SOE and OSS. One of its main drawbacks though with the fact that it’s pretty much the F 22 of today. It was expensive and extremely complicated with very finicky engines that required lots and lots of training which isn’t always abundant during wartime, So unfortunately there was more than a few accidents involving fatalities with this aircraft even in just normal flight not taking off or landing. The Germans called it the “Fork-Tailed Devil” and it was a constant thorn in the side of German military strategists. The Japanese nick named the lighting as well little less creative though 😂 “two planes one pilot”. In my opinion the plane was designed and built around the British Lancaster bomber success, but the p 38 was much better in every way I love her 😊.
Imagine you're an Allied pilot and something with no propeller looking like a bat flies right by faster than you've ever seen. The Me-262 and Me-163 must have seemed out of the future when first encountered.
Me-163 was never used irl. Rocket fuel was too corrosive for the frame
@@codominus1017 2:40 lol
@@codominus1017 Uhhh, no. It was used, there's gun camera footage IN the video of 163's.
it was used a few times. melted a few pilots with is tstoff fuel which is just like high test peroxide. melted their entire bodies into gelatinous goop
Except the Brits and US both had operational jet fighters that were coming into service as the war ended. Had the war lasted 2 more months, the P-80 would’ve seen combat in particular.
Man these guys had some balls. There's several shots where they are clearly only about 6-10ft off the ground strafing targets and pulling up at the absolute last second to avoid explosions or running into the target.
Wt cas
@@Sten05 Yeah except I don't even have the balls to do that in War Thunder.
ever heard of magnification lenses ?
@@bladerjeven then, clips like 3:17 are extremely close
The 'Messerschmitt 109' at 9:41 is actually a French built Dewoitine D520, a fighter from the early part of the War. Many were requisitioned by the Luftwaffe and used as trainers.
Nice catch. i thought it looked a little funky for a 109.
Spotted that also.. Fuselage behind the cockpit was way to stubby to be a Messerschmitt
Yep. Knew it wasn't a 109 but had to pause it to ID the plane. That cockpit sitting way behind the wings is a dead giveaway, and the wide landing gear couldn't be a 109.
I actually thought it was a captured Yak-1 haha
Takes a minute to remember that gun cameras never recorded sound.
Oh
Yeah but watching silent "British Pathe" reels just doesn't have the same kind of impact...
...and I'd rather dubbed engine and guns than some toxic music!
The quality of gunsight cameras hasn't changed in 75 years.
Consider this: We are seeing copies of a copy of a copy of a copy.
Imagine what it looked like freshly developed.
Flying through fire after explosion at 3:57…..very dangerous. Great upload.
Never have i seen guncam of me 262 nor have I seen any of that footage. Great video. Keep it up. Also the guy @ 3:33 God almighty, if he was able to pull out of that ...he probably dropped off more than empty shell casings in the water.
This is by far the longest continuous use of Singer sawing machine soundtrack ever put together for public display.
Can we all quit the complaining about the sound? This was created to show home that the War was very real and not only some far off event. Way cool. Thanks for this.
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No :p
2:23 GEEEZ.....the accuracy of the pilot is amazing. Holy Christ I don't think a single round missed that enemy plane.
to be fair you don't see the ones that miss
@@rosmaromorsa6385 No, I am referring to this dog fight specifically. It was WAY more accurate than the average encounter.
@@rael5469 Oh yeah, you can see the pilot walk the rounds onto the centerline of the aircraft.
And what’s even more wild is the average age of these pilots was something like 24-25 years old.
The commentator is wrong at 09:41, the aircraft being strafed is not a Bf-109, it’s actually a Dewoitine D.520 in Luftwaffe markings.
Phew! Got that...
2:21 *casual p-38 flies thru* "sup guys.."
Bro was like “look at my new wip”💀
The commenter saying that the pilots ejection was premature, but I say that if you're in front of the enemy in a dogfight and you have no speed nor altitude, that's probably the smartest option to avoid dying.
Lots of people here are commenting with the benefit of hindsight, from a gaming perspective. So yeah...
He had enough altitude to bail though. He was probably pissing his lederhosen and I don’t blame him. You got to do what you got to do.
Interesting thing is, when you compare the gun camera footage from Europe and Pacific, how much more sturdy and durable the German planes were compared to Japanese. Planes here take a lot of hits and still fly, Jap planes take one bullet and burst into flames. Really shows the difference in construction and priorities for both nations.
That was especially true in early war Japanese planes like the Zero. They were designed to be highly maneuverable dog fighters first and foremost. The weren’t armored like Allied aircraft & didn’t have self sealing gas tanks, so they burst into flames. Light weight construction. Their maximum dive speed was limited. Their later war aircraft were much improved, but their rate of replacement production was low.
@@ZenosWarbirds Like the Germans too, they started to develop some very interesting and even futuristic designs late in the war, but they simply had no chance to make them even in small numbers, at least the Germans managed to their jets into the fight even if it was far too late to make a difference. Anyway it's fascinating to see how technology changed so relatively quickly during the war
Correct me if I am wrong, Japan never utilized self sealing tanks during the war. Everyone else did.
Okay I'm not sure if the Italians did. But I'm pretty sure the UK and US and USSR and Germany did.
Some of those low passes had some surprisingly accurate "strahffing" runs... amazing air-to-air and air-to-ground footage.
Some of the dives are insane. The low flying too on some of the airfields is ballsy asf. Fr like it’s at a point if you slowed down the footage it’d look like a car rolling up to a plane. Not a whole ass plane feet off the ground. Unbelievably brave.
This footage is priceless. Thank you for sharing it.
Glad you enjoyed it
The ME 262 jet and ME 163 rocket fighter are still impressive to watch even when getting shot down. Incredible technology for Nov 1944. Had the ME 262 operated in large numbers in 1943 - 45, daylight bombing would have been too costly. I have done a quick research on the 262s combat record and found that most losses were while getting jumped while landing or takeoff. There was a German pilot Franz Schall flying an ME 262 that shot down 10 mustangs and four heavy bombers. Another guy shot down 20 mosquitos. These pilots were very experienced but still impressive considering they were flying against the best allied planes and the 262 was built in tunnels using slave labour.
I saw on TH-cam a guy brought his ORIGINAL Me-163 unpowered trainer to an air show AND flew it to boot. Well, technically glided it.
Agreed but even if they had been able to build lots of them they didn't have enough fuel or pilots to fly them by that time. These planes were at least three years too late for the Nazis- thankfully.
yup
It would not have made a difference
@@dub-pilot That's such a demonstrably false myth.
My former and later fellow flight instructor left cans of gun camera footage when he passed. We never knew if it was from his aircraft or just a general collection.
damn war thunder plane rb battles are crazy
sim battle*
When I was in my early teens (early 1970s), my friends and I would go to the local arcade to play games. There was one game there in particular where, for a quarter, you could operate a seated WWII anti-aircraft gun to try and shoot down German aircraft. The game used actual WWII aerial footage of enemy planes. Once you got the sights set on a plane and began firing, the a bell would ring for every bullet that made its mark, racking up your high score! I got to be very capable on that game. The footage here reminds me of that arcade game!
Do you know what the game was called?
@@megandarling2215That was so long ago. I think it may have been called FIGHTER ACE...not sure anymore, sorry.
@@jchapman8248 aw, it’s ok anyway I understand thanks tho! I would love to play that game but of course it’s getting outdated was the footage in color or black and white?
I remember a game probably older than that where you flew a WW1 biplane with a joystick. Probably an Atari arcade quarter game. The plane(s) were 3d blueprint outlines and not even solid looking. Still a pretty fun game in the day. Can't remember the name - maybe Barnstormer- or that might have been another game's name.
It's interesting to hear how the pronunciation of straffing has changed.
The sound effects are pre-recorded canned audio added in post production. These gun cameras were usually silent .i.e. no sound was recorded. That is why there is audio of a plane diving when the visuals show a plane in level flight.
I'm glad to see some WWII ground attack passes are as near misses as my video gameplay
This guy never runs out of ammo. Never.
Someone went overboard on the gun sound effects lol
Hottest TH-cam channel in 1944: Daily Dose of Fighter Kills
Have never seen me 262 in combat footage very much less getting shot down , wow and such amazing footage
2:28
Did that guy open the canopy to jump out of the plane while that guy is still shooting at him?
Holy Crap!!!
Dang bro went flying
An American pilot in his memoirs, said he was trained to shoot down enemy planes,but after seeing friends killed,he wanted to"stick his guns in the other guys cockpit and kill him !" .😟
Probably blew off that plane's canopy, dang the pilot got annihilated.
Yeah the pilot probably heard his plane getting absolutely shredded and decided he wasn't hanging around to catch a bullet or for the plane to burn up around him.
Or it was filled with so much lead the canopy latch was destroyed, which is honestly more likely.
Man i can tell how aggressive our pilots were. They were going in low and hard for some of these strafing runs and that one guy kept going back after that one aircraft went for a water landing. I mean he strafed him 3 to 4 times after presumably forcing a water landing. I love it.
Suddenly everyone is an experienced combat pilot, aeroengineer, historian and general it seems. Just watch the damn films and make your analysis later folks
Brilliantly restored footage.
Leaked by Gaijin
0:42 tail control lost
bro someone send this to Thunder Show fr
Insane quad kill over Europe I got back in '45
It probably wouldent even get chosen, some dude in a premium getting one gun kill would
7:40 minor inconvenience
It's just a scratch. It'll buff out.
Its really only footage like this that puts into oersoective how close quarters most dogfights where
the gunsight cameras were zoomed in but yes
2:25 “you’ve got a hole in your left wing!”
Attack the d point
@@Sumi_S I refuse!
Defend the D point!
Am I the only one that read this with the warthunder radio voice.
@@OperatorBravo521 no lmao
Late war, many of the Luftwaffe pilots were rookies who made aerial combats more similar to a Turkey shoot for the better trained Allied pilots.
And yet when the trained luftwaffe went after rookies at the start of the war, they are glorified.. the double standards are comical from fanboys.
Seeing that 262 in a flat spin is wild, and that 109 get raked from left to right and somehow the pilot popped the canopy and got out.
the tech in from WWII amazes me, some how they were able to get video cameras small enough to be able to be reasonably fitted onto planes. The jets and rockets are very interesting too since it took another 20 years to get to space. Same with radar, I have no clue how they have been able to get radar stuff working at the end and after WWII without computers.
They weren’t video, they were film cameras. Film cameras are much more compact. (Video recording wasn’t yet invented in WW2, all TV was live or from film.)
Radar doesn’t require computers - it’s analogue radio and CRT technology.
There are plenty of articles on how it all worked. Go do some reading, learn something new.
If you ever get the chance to see some of the US Navy fighters, they placed the camera access ports next to the panels where the wings folded. They would have a switch in the cockpit to begin the camera when entering combat. It was the first time pilots could look back on their encounters and look what they did right and wrong, allowing them to learn and use it to teach other pilots.
Realistically, we got to space relatively sooner than that as well. Gargarin and Shepherd both reaching space by 1961.
There was a lot of analog computers used in ww2: the B-29 gun control, the Norden bombsight, the Torpedo Data Computer (TDC), the battleship Mk1A Gun Fire Control Computer.
Plenty of videos on them on YT. Fascinating and impressive stuff.
i love how the narrator roasts the luftwaffe whenever a new segment begins
Wow, a French Dewoitine D.520 fighter in German markings at 9:26
I remember watching “The World at War” and there was gun camera footage of some poor bastard and a horse getting the treatment from 20mm cannon. Not nice. Interesting fact: The reason that there’s not much German aerial footage is due to the fact that most of the film was stored in Dresden.
These pilots got so low on some of these runs holy hell they had balls of steel
Yes, but the video is also zoomed in which makes the appearance of them going slower than they really were.
I guess if you add the gun sounds constantly you're bound to be right some of the time
I was just thinking that too, as I watched this. I thought it was stupid of the pilot to be constantly firing until I realized it...duh! lol
Wow, that looks awesome! All these pilots are real heroes.
Q. How many rounds shall we make it sound like the boys had to fire?
A. Yes.
Documentaries: ww2 planes only had enough ammo to fire for about 30 seconds
WW2 pilots: RATATATATATATATATTATATTATA
the sound is added in post. the cameras do not record sound.
2:20 That is what is known as being "Lit up like a Christmas tree." Walked it up the wing right into the cockpit.
And almost hit that P-38 at 2:22!
@@kevintucker3354 Yeah, looked like a dang multiplayer server lol.
He bailed out
9:40 That is a captured French Dewoitine D.520 Fighter in German markings. They were used by the Germans as advanced trainers.
So it was a 520 then, I couldn’t figure out if it was that or for some reason I thought it was a LaGG-3
7:37 what the hell... if I was in that plane I would be kinda shocked
They would have been used to seeing munitions stockpiles going off. It's hard to see in B&W but wagons carrying explosives were clearly marked to be handled carefully, so the pilot probably fired on it deliberately.
minor inconvenience
Attention to the designated grid square!
Gramercy!
It's interesting how little the filmmakers, and presumably everyone else, knew about jets back then. They even give them the wrong sound effects.
This is some crazy footage
love seeing in though
The twin engine aircraft under attack at 2:54 to 3:02 is an RAF Mosquito, both crew died. Its what we call these days 'blue on blue', an unfortunate factor of war, its a shame the US pilots recognition skills were not up to scratch that day. I assume when the film would have been downloaded back at base and reviewed the pilot would have been told.
I did some research on this. I was able to find another copy of this gun cam film that IDs the incident. It took place on 6th October, 1944. The American pilot was a 2nd Lt. in the 335th Fighter Squadron, flying a P-51 Mustang. It appears no one at the time, or later during the War realized it was a Mosquito. (Probably assumed it was an Me 410 or other German twin engine fighter. Encounters with Mosquitos in daylight in the air were probably rare.) I have no specific evidence of what happened to the Mosquito in question or it's crew. The American pilot was killed in action a month later, hit by flak, strafing a German airfield. He's buried in a military cemetery in Belgium. Out of respect for his family, I'm not identifying him here.
@@ZenosWarbirds Thanks for confirming the earlier identification and update..
I was about to point that out too. Horrible For everyone involved
The clip before that was a war crime, strafing a downed plane.
It’s even more of a shame that the producers and those that supplied them with this film, all acting without the stress of combat, made the same mistake.
Really impressive!
From France, Thanks to these men for coming liberate my country !
I cannot imagine the vision of our elders, who saw these fights in the sky...
For the anecdote, I live not far from Cézembre island. Germans fortified the island and guarded the sea with artillery.
It's the most bombed site of the all WW2 per m², mainly by Allied aviation. 20,000 bombs over an area of 0.095km², almost 5 bombs per m²!!!
Real life: Takes quite a few hits just to disable an aircraft.
Meanwhile, in War Thunder: Couple of shots and the tail rips off.
planes going 200 mph level act like this on sim
@@SadStuart 200mph level? What do you mean?
@@KuroHebi no stress on the spars in easy level flight , stuff blows off when under stress and hit with explosives
Play DCS instead.
All this footage had the sound added as gun cameras had no sound capability
It was added in 1944. SOP.
Yeah,
The brass band was a dead giveaway
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Im glad the video is real. Seeing it actually happen 👍
I think it's funny how everyone is bitching about the sound effects. Want the authentic experience of watching this? Mute the sound.
These newsreels cranked out almost every week during WW2. There was a war on, nobody really cared about the accuracy of the SFX. The voice over, music, engine, & machine gun sounds were added using analog Steenbeck sound editing tables with multiple spools of sound tapes - extremely slow, cumbersome & time consuming compared to todays digital video editing systems when meeting a deadline. BTW, this video has been viewed 450k times. The complainers represent a tiny fraction. That’s TH-cam😏
2:22 Lightning photobomb
0:20 Is a trick Yeager dubbed, "rat catching". They''d loiter around a Luftwaffe air base, watching for any of the jets to either be taking off or landing, then pounce. The knew in that phase of flight, the ME 262 would be the most vulnerable.
That Komet though, you had to stay the hell back, or the fuel residues would ruin your engine, and maybe injure you.
I wonder if you could just wait for the Komet to blow itself up lol.
@@dickg Some simply have.
@@Nighthawke70 Oh boy what's that funny-smelling goo seeping into the cockpit and melting my legs???
2:27 "Man, screw this plane, I'm bailing."
Cockpit got so shot up the canopy fell off, probably bits of the pilot too
10 seconds to leave aircraft…
Really neat to actually see/hear abut the A-36, from what I remember it was less than a thousand or so made. I didn’t know they fought over the skies of Italy
I think you’ll enjoy this. ☺️
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I actually really like the sound effects added. The old timey production value has a certain charm to it!
I especially like how the narrator presents these newly fangled jet and rocket aircraft as if they bring no new challenges to dogfighting.
You can have the best planes ever built but if you don't have experienced pilots in the cockpit it means almost nothing
Early jets weren't that much of an advance over late piston fighters. They were faster, but less maneuverable (as pointed out in this video).
I especially like these comments.
The point of these videos is to provide both training and a morale boost.
@@XSpamDragonX Ahhh, I see.
Looks like the cameras picked up a couple of ME262s going into a flat spin in the first few vids. The German pilots never had the time to really learn those planes…good thing too.
They were notoriously fickle. Every flight, basically needed a complete engine overhaul
They didn't have mouse aim back then.
We edited in the same gun firing absurd amounts of ammo but this is awesome I had no idea they archived them like this. Thanks!
Brilliant footage. The sound effects rather let it down and the air to air is far better than the air to ground.
The sound effects were added in 1944. The same ones were used over & over in documentaries & movies. No one cared. There was a war & the audience was there to see “Fighter Kills”
@@ZenosWarbirds Thank you, I wasn't sure. They're truly awful; I wonder how easy it would be to add something more authentic?
@@guinnog2 That would be very difficult to do & still preserve the narration. It’s an historical artifact that is what it is😊
@ZenosWarbirds One could be so bold to just redo all audio including narration with voice AI, but you'll lose authenticity. It was created in 1944.
@@Armis71 I have produced many WW2 videos where I have added realistic sound effects sampled from actual aircraft & weapons when the original footage is silent. I don’t do that where there is original narration & SFX. That would be a disservice & disrespectful to the hard working men & women who produced these films during WW2, most of whom, as in this case, were serving personnel in the U.S. armed forces. That was their contribution to the war effort. More than 700,000 people have watched this film. A tiny minority have complained about the sound effects . I understand that some are ignorant & think that I produced the SFX, so I take the time to explain that they are original, 1944. Beyond that, I could care less about the opinions of a few armchair couch potato TH-cam critics.
The A36 segment was really cool with all the dive bombing
If you’re into A-36s, I recommend our video:
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7:34 reported for spawncamping
thats wild bro
What we see here is young guys in their last moment
3:18 ...*ALTITUDE. ALTITUDE.*
Pants thoroughly shitted.
So sad... some of the Pilots (Kids) had less than 20 hours in type.... specially at the end of the fighting. Bless them All.
damn, war thunder graphics kinda startin to look good they just gotta remove this filter tho
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Now after reading so many comments, I would just like to say how lovely @ZenosWarbirds is to reply to so many people; having to repeat themselves because a lot of people have commented about the same things. And each time, they have not just copied and pasted their reply, they have written it differently. Thanks for taking the time @ZenosWarbirds.
You’re welcome👍
I've been subscribed to Zeno for years. I'm guessing from the plethora of silly comments that this must have turned up on a lot of kids' TH-cam recommendations recently. He's been flat out giving history lessons ever since... More patience than I'd have!
@@wanderer7755 It comes with the territory. I’m happy to help people who have a genuine interest. And blocking the trolls is fun too. 😉
@@ZenosWarbirds right on - thanks for the uploads over the years its great stuff.
such neat footage, thanks for uploading! I can't even imagine the mettle these young pilots had to do these crazy strafes and maneuvers.
I'm sure I read somewhere that in the last years of the war the US removed tracer rounds from thier fighters.
The kill ratio actually went up.
You might notice this in some of the footage, no tracers.
But you might also notice observer rpunds (the flashes you see) those are rounds that explode to give an idication of the hit.
Usually more reliable indication of your aim.
Early war british observer rounds did not cause any real damage, while the german B Patrone (B cartridge) or Beobachterpatrone (Observer round) was pretty damaging for a rifle calibre round.
Interesting, any more info on this?
They definitely did that to the bombers due to their use giving gunners a false impression of trajectories. There is a video on youtube about it in detail but I cannot recall its name. I'm not sure that they did this to fighters. I know they used to make the last 50 or so rounds in the belts of P-51's and P-47's MG's tracers to give a visual cue to the pilot that they were low on ammo.
One factor viewers should be aware of are these guys getting shot down were overwhelmingly rookies cause they didn't have the luxury of sending veteran pilots home thousands of miles away to train the next batch of recruits like the US. These guys flew until they were killed in action.
Yeah, and that's Germany's fault. In the US when tankers had tanks repaired they sat around. In Germany, they literally sent them to the front lines in Russia. ... where they died. Japan also didn't appreciate human life, and started out better than the USA but by time they used up all their "heroes" there was nobody but kids left to fight. Shortsighted apathy led to their downfall.
Quite cool seeing that a p51 can catch a me163
After the boost phase to reach the altitude of our bombers Komets soon became gliders,and could be caught fairly easily
They only had a couple of minutes of propulsion before they became a glider. IIRC, it was only between 5-7 minutes
P51s were very fast for props but when a me163 gets caught in a turn or low alt its very vulnerable
You don’t realise how frightening this stuff actually is until you see footage of it.
When you focus for a second and remember this isn’t some abstract film you’re watching, but a literal life or death battle that actually happened, it is terrifying to be on either end of the gun.
The film was originally silent as the planes didn't have mics. Sound added in the studio.
Best gun camera video I've seen.
Really? They never recorded sounds.
At 9:26 I believe that's a French Dewoitine 520 !! Note the large triangular tail fin and cockpit set way back behind the wing.
Je suis tout à fait d'accord. Ils ont été utilisés par les Allemands en école de chasse. (I agree. they were used by the Luftwaffe in the fighting schools)
Ah ben même observation :D
Totally agree
How zoomed in were the cameras on these planes? Or were they actually within melee range in some of these clips?
yes
the cameras themselves seem to have a short telephoto lens but in post the image may have been cropped further, giving the effect of a more zoomed in image
yall the audio isnt real, they didnt have microphones on planes because all you would hear is the prop
It was recreated for the viewers
Duh. What a revelation.
What gave it away? The repeating 10 second loop?
@@doggedout no the fact that you’d only hear the prop
The pilot in the video hits the ground target from the beginning of his shot, so his shooting is very good. In addition, the slow speed of the aircraft seems to give him plenty of time to correct his shooting. It must be an excellent aircraft that can fly stably even at low speeds.
Any pilot who wanted to survive strafing an airfield would have been wise to keep his speed up. The Germans never skimped on anti-aircraft guns and airfields were usually well-defended. In his book, "The Big Show", Tempest pilot Pierre Clostermann told how he and six other Tempests attacked a German airfield late in the War. Seven Tempests crossed the airfield boundary, two flew out the other side.
That low dive-shoot-pull up was an insane maneuver. Some mad skills these WW2 aviators had. Also that flying wing jet propelled aircraft must have given allied pilots some serious nightmares. If my history is correct allied forces didn't have anything that matched their speed, right?
The Brits had the Gloster Meteor but jet to jet dogfights didn't happen until the Korean War
Time stamp? I couldn't find the scene you are describing.
@@kiwis0uth True, the Gloster Meteor never managed to see any war glory after WWII because the RAF deemed it unnecessary to deploy. The Luftwaffe was already being slaughtered by 1944 and the RAF considered it far too risky to deploy such an advanced weapon in the field as once again, it was too unnecessary to begin with. Not to mention that the Me 262 had a negligible impact on the course of the war because of Germany's scarce resources. That is in resources to produce the Me 262, manpower to produce it (most workers working on it were slave workers from concentration camps) and the fuel to even fly it.
Wow P38 crosses in front of his buddy.... incredibly dangerous environment.
2:23 That guy really had it
Many US pilots took their aircraft for granted. Some flew so low when strafing they could have jumped out and walked home.
Long lived tradition of adding sound in the post-production ;) tratatata
Really great video. Respect to all fighter pilots, this stuff ain't easy. It looks like the weaponry isn't terribly accurate, but I suppose the automatic nature of them and the mass production warrants that. Seeing that plane crash and explode is pretty scary
Accuracy was actually pretty good. The vibrations of the engine, the guns blazing and the motion of the aircraft itself make for some pretty shaky camera footage. Add the tracers in and it looks like the rounds are out of control. Also, pilots could have the ground crew set their gun convergence to very near or farther out. If they had it set close the rounds would widen out pretty far when going for a train out at distance.
At this point in the war, the USA was flying with their 'A' team whereas the Germans were on their 'C' team.
American beginners had already taken care of most of their "A" team....
And that's how the cookie crumbled. Cope.
@@kenneth9874NO, America entered the war towards the end, after profiteering off of all sides of the war.
@@mikehunt7419The war started in 1939, America entered in 1941 and Germany surrendered in 1945. Just so you know.
@@mikehunt7419 1941 was two years after the 7 year long war started, that ain’t late
Wonderful editing of the news reel makers.. normally the pilots have about 2 sec to fire.
But some in these reels are 10 to 15 sec opportunities.
Mirrored images and so on.
More than once I thought “geez…pull up…”
At 7:32 the guy is basically shooting upwards at a ground target - that's insanely low.
Those young guys, the fighter pilots must have had a blast during the fear even though it was life and death they must have enjoyed the speed and thrill of flying and fighting to the death.
According to Robin Olds, pilot’s going into combat missions varied in their emotions. He was a very confident guy. Other pilots in his unit had nightmares the night before & some “lost their lunch” before flying. He said he had the utmost respect for them for the fear they overcame & still performed well.
My grandfather flew the P51 and made Chicago news for killing some aircraft but he never came home the same…
The amount of comments complaining about the sound is ridiculous. Yet i bet those commenters are the same people who love over the top action scenes in movies and video games 😂😂😂