The most fascinating part was after the interview. The way he carried a friendly conversation with out the dramatics. He is absolutely crazy but he knows what he is doing all at the same time.
Ive read that he created this charachter when he was imprisioned at a very early age as a defense mechanism against those who would may be predatory to him due to his small stature. like he cant physically intimidate as much as some, so he really leans into the 'crazy' to defend himself. the best defense is a good offence, as they say.
Yes, it was amazing, the difference in him when the interview was over. He was a lot calmer, but when he started asking about the pictures and posing for them, I was astounded! All that dr G had said was right on point.
I also agree with what he said here @31:37 “You know, everybody likes that evil character…you know, that guy with the eyes. But you gotta realize man, all those guys you’ve been creating are not really real in real life.” Very accurate portrayal of main stream media in many ways.
Having depression and anxiety doesn't make you crazy...which is what y'all mean when you say "everybody" because honestly there are societal reasons for these problems.
Having grown up abused and manipulated, controlled, with a father like this, it is unnerving how I can easily see the Dr.'s points, but then completely fall for every word Charles Manson says. Thank God I'm not near someone like this anymore. All it took was for him to sometimes make sense and I was hooked.
Be very very careful. You can EASILY meet a highly intelligent, narcissistic, manipulative person, male or female, and not realize until you're in deep. Especially with the past you speak of. Always be vigilant
that's the thing, that's something i noticed in other comments. there will suddenly be something he says that resonates with people. they're like, "he was crazy, but he said xyz and that's true!" but why does it resonate with people? because it's vague enough that you can apply to it an opinion you already held. people like charlie manson trick you into thinking they provided some insight, when it was your own insight all along. you do not need them and you never did. i'm sorry you were exposed to that kind of influence, and i'm glad you got away. i can only imagine how chaotic it must have been.
@@calvin277 just because someone has verbal alacrity and imagination does not make them a genius: psychopaths usually have a higher intelligence because they've spent so much time exercising their intellect working out how to trick an manipulate but calling him a genius and a philosopher is like calling Jeffrey Dahmer a romantic and an artist.
I really appreciated how you said he has both psychotic AND psychopathic symptoms and the difference between the two , and how one disorder can take prevalence over the other. Interesting. Thank you
Yes... Dr. G's explanation of Charlies behavior being a combination of psychopath, psychotic and performer helped me understand why he is such a fascinating man to watch and listen to.
5:24 is not an example of psychotic speech...its literally just slang terms for dabbling with drugs "dibby dabby, chippying, but I don't really get down heavy with it " it actually makes perfect sense
I'm sure if Manson asked the interviewer if she was "hip to that jive, Turkey?" Dr. G would say it was psychotic babble even though that's exactly how hippies talked back then. My Dad was proficient in hippie talk.
@@M.A2600 hahaha, yes, he is crazy, but the dibby dab chippying sounds like what they used to call Crank. Like Black beauties, Red devils, yellow jackets, whities, etc and meth or crank.
@GregorPQ didnt matter if he answered everything truthfully or not, she kept control and kept it on track. She kept calm, cool, and stayed on the path she intended. Also, kept him back into the interview and not off the rails.
@@GregorPQhe manipulated her like he does with every interviewer, he doesn't answer truthfully in order to make people believe in him and to see him as harmless and a victim
@@jennifers.3818you're right; she did very well with a hostile interviewee in keeping his rants to a min and keeping the interview on as much of a track as was possible. One thing charlie never abided was an overly domineering, in your (his) face type of questioning...it required her to almost manipulate him back onto track and she did as well as anyone possibly could.
I don't know what it is about the guys on The Behavior Panel, but instinctively I dislike each one of them. You would think I'd find one, at least, of the four unobjectionable, but I can't.
I have tried so hard to get through one of their videos. I just can't. I don't have anything against them, I just find 4 long drawn out opinions to be too much. I get bored
Thank you for doing this series. It's fascinating. I've been interested in Charles Manson ever since I read Helter Skelter in the '70s. I was only 6 when the murders took place, and since my teens I've been interested in what makes people like him tick. I commented in a previous video that I would very much like to see you do a Flashback Forensics on some of his followers; in particular, Patricia Krenwinkel, Susan Atkins, and Leslie Van Houten; and even Tex Watson, and Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme.
@@drgexplains Yes! Please! Was brought up in something like that,but it never impressed me. Outsider there. Lonely but man! I'm proud of myself to be a little psychologist already then.( First education psychology,then theologian.)🙄 no choice really. The groundwork was laid for me.😄 Never tired of the inner life of people.
I can’t believe how exhausting this must’ve been for you to read, Dr. G. Diane handles him like the awesome journalist she is, so much respect for her. 💖
Dr. G probably needed therapy after this analysis. Dr G: Yea doc... I just recently completed my video on Charlie Manson and ever since, I can't stop talking hippie, man. Ya dig?😂
Hi again dr G ! It would be interesting to hear you analyse Mansons parole hearings? As we all know that follow your channel and your analyses, dr G you are great! Thank you for sharing this with us ❤
A very interesting parole hearing is the one for Tex Watts who actually did the killing. Sharon Tates mother was there and after she said her peace his attorney packed up his notes because he knew it was a wrap. She was a powerhouse. My heart goes out to her. She believed Manson was blamed more than he should’ve been for the murders
the fact that he knocks it off as soon as it's time to be physically removed again in his cuffs almost makes the dominant, rageful behavior even more chilling. it shows that he he can switch it on or off, and he can do that whenever he wants to. and he did. for years.
Thanks Dr. G, that was intense & very interesting. I really enjoy your take on the notorious criminals from the past. The one on Bundy was great as well. If you are still taking suggestions, I would like to see your take on Aileen Wuornos and Gary Gilmore. Thanks
I've been really looking forward to you doing Charles Manson I've been learning so much from you thank you so much I enjoy your channel and I have been trying to go through and watch all of your videos
Hi Dr G I recently discovered your channel and I've been binge watching your videos. Psychology is very fascinating! Former Manson family member Leslie Van Houten was just granted parole it would be interesting to analyze her.
Ive heard that he developed this persona at any early age as a defense mechanism. Particularly as someone who is somewhat small in stature who had been in the system since his youth. Like he really leans into the 'crazy', to intimidate potential threats. The best defense is a good offense, as they say.
After watching the end, when interview is over, it seems sad. Like, hes tired. That hes had this, over the top, evil character attached to him. Everyone treats him as an extreme, dangerous man. Imagine having this stuck on you, you're ENTIRE life, even when you're old and just want to have connections. Afterall, he is just human
I saw an interview with someone that was in prison with him. And he said the same thing about him. He said this side of him was all an act that he used as a defense mechanism
@@jennifers.3818do you think someone like charlie manson is capable of connecting with people? i truly believe that his version of connection is control. he's not yearning for human connection, he's yearning for someone to stare at him with adoration and hang on his every word.
Dr G , I appreciate all of your insightful commentary. I learn so much from listening to your analysis. I look forward to your posts/ videos. As I said before, I would love to hire you as my personal coach in life😊Dr G you have a special gift of interpretation of others and explaining to us so we can understand. Dr G, Thank you!!!
I hope I'm not psychotic. As an old hippie, I understood everything he said. 😄 I heard lots of people, especially would-be gurus or rockers who thought they were deep/political/mystical (take your choice), speak this way. I may have spoken this way once or twice myself when I thought I was deep/political/mystical.
I believe it’s more that he changed his speaking patterns or inserted this in to make people relate to him. It’s a very relatable way of speaking but he doesn’t maintain it.
I could understand most of what he was trying to convey, albeit I’m a few minutes in and it’s been years since I ever watched this stuff.. but you can understand while also realizing his way of thinking and speaking is not natural healthy or normal.
Also I’m sure if you listened without the pauses.. listened to it all as a story you’d see he’s jumping around. I didn’t notice until I had to remind myself that I’m hearing the phrases in increments.
Diane Sawyer handled the interview so well. She remained calm and soft spoken to encourage him to open up and show his full range of personality. He liked her.
Truly interesting coverage Doc! I think my fascination with psych began with Charlie back when I was in high school. Will definitely be watching this one a few times! May also make a request, Jim Jones. Thanks doc!
I like these Flashback videos. They give us a perspective that wasn't shared when they occurred. The last part of this - Manson without his "mask" was especially intriguing. Thanks Dr. G!
Thankyou for your analysis of Charles Manson. He's a piece of work. At times I almost felt sorry for him and not because he plays the victim at one point, but I wonder if his babbling and psychotic ramblings are from way too much LSD use. He's lived in a violent, crazy world of prison and institutions most of his life so it's no wonder murder and mayhem doesn't phase him. I can see how his behaviour and manner of "conversation" could be persuasive to vulnerable, drug addicted young people. He's certainly a performer and like you said, he's proud of his performance. To me, he's a sad and vulnerable little man who found a way to get through life, controlling malleable youngsters searching for something to hold on to. He can be as normal as the next person when the cameras are off. He can even be quite likeable at times. Manson is a character: he's right there. Manufactured caricature is what he is. It's all a very sad tale from start to finish isn't it, Dr G? Very interesting. I'd like to see more of Manson and look forward to Ramirez and others you're going to look at.
Nah....It's a myth that LSD makes people psychotic. He is a period piece of a very different time, and the result of extremely tragic life circumstances.
I really enjoyed this episode! Dr. G, have you considered analyzing the FBI interview of serial killer Israel Keyes? He was one of the most terrifying killers I've ever seen.
Fascinating content! I watched your video on Ted Bundy and now this, and they are absolutely insightful. It feels wrong to say I'm "into" serial killers, because I really am not interested to hear about the atrocities, but I'm rather interested in the ways they are different to "normal" people. And your videos are just about that. Thank you!
That was brilliant Dr. G! The moment the camera wasn’t “rolling”! What a shift! You do incredible work with your insights! You should start a training class to teach people like myself to not be manipulated and to know how to argue, and not fall for the deflections! I would love to see more on Manson! Keep going! Also, I’m going to check, but if not I hope you analyze Edmund Kemper! Please?! Thanks again!
This was a fascinating video. Thank you very much for sharing. I feel like I've learned a lot not just about Charles Manson's mind and personality, but about how others like him manipulate others so successfully. Your channel is by far the best of its kind and I look forward to more videos like this.
I’m still hoping for you to do one on Zachary Davis he seems so complex and the age behind the killing makes me so curious what mental illness he may have actually been suffering from.
Dr G, If you haven't watched Manson's 1992 parole hearing, you should. He explains to the board exactly where his state of mind is coming from. Charlie's psychological perspective has roots in a childhood that was radically deviant from the normal experience of most people. Prison was his home since he was 5 years old when he visited his mother there. He was incarcerated in some form or other since he was 9 because his mother abandoned him and he had no one who would take custody of him. By the time he got out of prison in 1967 he spent 17 of his 32 years in jail, mostly for theft. Corrections officers and older inmates were his role models. From a young age he learned to be a criminal in crime school. I'm not buying the hippie cult leader narrative. It seems more like a bunch of drug using criminals took over an old blind man's ranch where they stored stolen cars and sold drugs. Charlie was in his mid-thirties and everyone else was in their early twenties so it was only human nature that the younger people would look to Charlie for guidance which he provided them through prison wisdom. He told them the way they needed to be to survive as an inmate in prison because this is all that he knew. Along the way they were all doing a lot LSD (provided to the hippies as part of the CIA's MK Ultra in the wild study) which is known to blunt the ego. There were 9 known murders by this group. Of the 9 murders Charles "Tex" Watson inflicted mortal wounds upon 8 of the victims. Real sick stuff this Tex guy did. He was a thrill killer who had very irrational/psychotic motives behind his actions. Tex was using methamphetamines in addition to LSD during these murders and believed he was the devil. He says Manson ordered him to kill, but I refuse to believe the word of a man who killed 8 people for the thrill of it especially considering one of his victims was an eight and a half month pregnant woman. The other murder (Gary Hindman) started as an extortion for money that can be described as a drug deal gone wrong, happens-every-day kind of thing. The point I am trying to make is that Manson DID NOT receive a fair trial, he was by the judge refused opportunity to put on a defense. The story the prosecution wove (helter skelter) was fiction based on Krishna Venta, a true cult leader who was murdered in 1958 only a few miles away from Spahn ranch. If Charlie had received a fair trial he would have been convicted of conspiracy after the fact and Tex Watson would have taken the majority of the blame for these murders. I can only speculate the reason the court would frame Manson as being a cult leader. The first reason is to cover up the true reason for these people's extreme group psychosis which was chronic LSD use that was provided to them by the CIA. The second motivation would be to make money selling entertainment and the third was to frighten the population in a similar manor as Big Brother did to the outer party during the "2 minute hate" in the novel 1984.
I'm so grateful for this comment. I've been thru so many books on this and EVERYTHING you said is true. VB concocted this whole helter skelter, race war nonsense. Anyway, GREAT job on your account of Charlie and his situation.
Hello Dr. G. I bumped into your analyses videos the other day. They are very interesting to watch and very informative. Keep doing them. I'd like to see your analyses of Scott Peterson and Christopher Watts. I think you mentioned having done them, so I'll look around for them. Thank you for the interesting videso.
Thanks for another great analysis, Doc. I was diagnosed at 50 with autism, and as you can imagine there are crazy layers of trauma to this point, now at 54. CPTSD to be sure. I'm now relying on the system to survive, which makes those disabled live in ultra poverty. So now based on my circumstances, and all of the traumatic past including bullying etc, I'm a product of the system. I believe Charles was as well. Who knows, if he had been raised in a nurturing and loving environment, as opposed to being in the system since he was 8 years old, he may have been another Chuck Yeager... Albeit a very tiny one.
Are you referring to SSI? Because SSI does indeed require that a recipient live in poverty. It's predicated on the assumption that a recipient will be living with at least one other person, likely a parent. I've been disabled since I was seven. I didn't get SSI until I was 45. You need to know that after both parents have died - and this may apply to someone who was raised by an aunt or sibling - SSI recipients can apply for an upgrade to the Social Security check the parent who had the most in Social Security would have been receiving, or have received. You need to talk to a Social Security lawyer immediately. I missed out on the upgrade. It's a complicated story. It happened because of the independent actions of two psychopathic people who didn't know one another, the woman in charge of medical records for my goofball, childish spoiled brat doctor, and the administrative law judge at my hearing. I had to live on SSI alone between 2002 - 2016, and how I did it, God alone knows. If you are ineligible for the upgrade, there is the ABLE Act of 2015. You need to research this. It allows an SSI recipient to establish an ABLE Account. People who are so inclined can deposit money into that account, and it does not affect the recipient's eligibility to continue receiving SSI. In 2016, my wonderful church starting making donations to my account, and this has enabled me to escape the desperate poverty you alluded to so correctly. I hope and will pray that your situation eases.
@@bobtaylor170 I appreciate your kind words and the information very much. I'm actually in Canada, and referring to ODSP. Unfortunately, I'm alone in the world now and I've maxed out at 17K. It's just a horrid and inhumane system of government, at least in the province of Ontario. It is what it is, and somehow someway I have to find peace with that. I've always been a natural idealist, so I doubt that will happen. Again, thank you, it's refreshing to receive such a thoughtful & genuine message on a social media platform. Cheers.☮️
W0W What an Exhausting Creep ! I have never watched anything on Manson. I only got 14 min into this video - and need a break. His Aggressive Game Player with Bouts of Shouting are just too creepy for me. Thank you for your analysis. I once had a close relationship with a very disturbed controlling at times borderline psychotic emotional abuser and this brings that back in nanoseconds. He was very creative, charismatic - considered himself to be self made and self realized - - but he was a vampire, a sadistic scared parasite. I broke away from him and never let him near me after getting to my breaking point and realizing I couldn't help him and couldn't bare him any longer.
You heard him say I can’t leave Bobby in jail, pay me what you owe me. Bobby Beausoleil (a Manson follower) killed Gary Hinman a week before the Tate murders. He was in jail for it and one theory is that Charlie ordered the Tate murders to take the suspicion away from Bobby. Both crime scenes had Pig written in blood on the walls so it I was obvious they were connected.
He was telling them to get money from people who owed THEM. Sebring and Voytek burned Watson on a drug deal weeks before. You people are willfully stupid about this whole scenario.
Mental Health Nurse here. Manson is not psychotic in this interview. He is trying to be in control all the time and is always attention seeking. He has always been like this.
If you think he is a character, watch his parole hearing from 1997 and his interview with penny daniels The guy was insane and broken but brilliant in many ways. He knew wayy to much about religion, politics, society etc which is why he was to dangerous to the establishment to ever be paroled. He would have spilled alot of beans and named names. There is some specilection that he was ex cia that when rogue, started his own "cult" outside of society and was scapegoated and destroyed by the government that he rebelled against by leaving.
I'm watching your true crime videos in order & I have to say this one I found the most fascinating so far. Loving the Flashback series. Jon Benet Ramsey parents, Tonya Harding or Michael Jackson trial next?
The scary thing about Manson, is that he did in fact achieve the fame and notoriety that he was seeking in the 60s, or rather infamy. Although for very negative reasons. In fact, he's probably MORE well known like he was, than if he had actually become a recording artist
I think it is important to remember that he actually was a victim most of his childhood. As a baby in a car seat, his mother traded him for a pitcher of beer. She despised his very existence & was burdened with having to care for him, because she was a drug addicted prostitute, & he just got in the way of that. So he spent many years in orphanage’s being sodomized because he was small & not as strong as the other boys. After too many years of that, he ran away-and at a very young age he had to look out for himself on the streets. I’m not sure at exactly what age, but the good ole CIA recruits him & uses him for experimenting, especially with LSD. Imagine, if you can, what they did to his mind. You could ask Cathy O’Brien or Fiona Barnett what the cia & project MK ultra & project MK Naomi did to them & how their minds were fractured & their bodies abused & how they were absolutely tortured by Psychopaths imported from Germany during project Paperclip. It is very important to be aware of who made Manson what he was, because a lot of that was done deliberately, & only Manson was held responsible.
@@l.k.3304 you’re quite welcome! I had a tiny toke before I responded, & I guess I got a bit deep, but the story in its entirety is important. He actually sang pretty well!
@@333Mesmerized I never just ‘buy’ the story the msm has been prepped to spew, & curiosity for the actual truth motivates me to dig, & dig deep. I was using the Brave search engine for a bit, but it seems it has been compromised as of late. Any suggestions?
🌸 personally for me I think that the more you watch and listen to Charlie's interviews and behaviors through the years, the more you can kind of tell when he goes into this psychotic episode in the middle of his diatribe
I just came across a video of Amber Hilberling. The young lady who pushed her husband and he fell out of a high tide window. I’d love to see an analysis on the video of her in the room with her grandmother while being recorded. It’s after the incident when she was brought in, but before detectives tried to question her. She was in the room with her grandmother and talked and talked. But when the detective came in, she said she wanted to have a lawyer present. She said a TON in the hour long video.
Oh yes! She was amazingly self entitled! My gawd. I think what you see in her is incredible immaturity combined with the entitlement of a narcissist combined with poor coping skills.
Ramirez was creepy but his interviews are way too try hard. He tries to sound like a guy that has some deep meanings but says the most obvious bullshit...Charlie Manson he is not when it comes to being able to verbalize.
This was an interesting and very informative video ~ I've never seen anyone break it down and have it make perfect sense ~ in a simple form! Outstanding! ❤
I’d love a video on Steven Avery’s interview from making a murderer! Love the content, thank you for giving me a new favorite channel to binge watch. ❤
I've only just discovered your channel and your videos are addictive! So entertaining and educational. You explain things perfectly and your voice is very soothing. If there is enough content, it would be great if you could analyse Marjorie Deahl Armstrong (involved in the pizza delivery man bomb killing)
Yes! Marjorie Diehl-Armstrong is a fascinating person. She was supposed to have had a genius IQ. Would LOVE to see Dr G do an analysis of her and that whole peculiar case
There is some truth to what he said about getting his "brother" out of jail. The "brother" of whom he speaks is Bobby Beausoleil. Bobby was the lead guitarist in the musical group that Charlie was trying to make a success of. Bobby was the most talented musician in the group. Without Bobby the group wouldn't have stood a chance of seeing much success. Bobby had been arrested for a murder that occurred a couple of weeks before the Tate-LaBianca murders. It has been said that someone at Spahn Ranch (no one knows exactly who) came up with the idea of committing a copycat murder like the one that Bobby had been charged with, the purpose of which was to provide Bobby with at least some plausible deniability. The rest is history. THAT, I believe is what Charlie meant when he spoke about getting his "brother" out of jail.
actually, its because manson was involved in hinman's murder. Bobby stabbed hinman to death, but manson had struck hinman with a sword on the side of his face a couple of days earlier. So he didn't want to be implicated in the murders while beausoleil was in custody...also the sword he used was from the armory of the straight satan's motorcycle gang, so they were putting pressure on him
"It has been said that someone at Spahn Ranch (no one knows exactly who) came up with the idea of committing a copycat murder " patricia krenwinkle and susan atkins
The most fascinating part was after the interview. The way he carried a friendly conversation with out the dramatics. He is absolutely crazy but he knows what he is doing all at the same time.
Hey Dr. G, you are a fraud.
Ive read that he created this charachter when he was imprisioned at a very early age as a defense mechanism against those who would may be predatory to him due to his small stature. like he cant physically intimidate as much as some, so he really leans into the 'crazy' to defend himself. the best defense is a good offence, as they say.
Yes, it was amazing, the difference in him when the interview was over.
He was a lot calmer, but when he started asking about the pictures and posing for them, I was astounded! All that dr G had said was right on point.
Yuaaa
they say short people are more likely to be psychopathic actually
For as crazy as Manson is, I do agree with one thing he said: "Way back when, being crazy meant something. Now everybody's crazy."
Absolutely.
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I also agree with what he said here @31:37 “You know, everybody likes that evil character…you know, that guy with the eyes. But you gotta realize man, all those guys you’ve been creating are not really real in real life.” Very accurate portrayal of main stream media in many ways.
Having depression and anxiety doesn't make you crazy...which is what y'all mean when you say "everybody" because honestly there are societal reasons for these problems.
In the past they called everyone with a mental disability "crazy" so he is wrong
Having grown up abused and manipulated, controlled, with a father like this, it is unnerving how I can easily see the Dr.'s points, but then completely fall for every word Charles Manson says. Thank God I'm not near someone like this anymore. All it took was for him to sometimes make sense and I was hooked.
Be very very careful. You can EASILY meet a highly intelligent, narcissistic, manipulative person, male or female, and not realize until you're in deep. Especially with the past you speak of. Always be vigilant
Psychopaths DO use cleverness and instances of truth to draw people in but it's just the bait that precedes the switch.
that's the thing, that's something i noticed in other comments. there will suddenly be something he says that resonates with people. they're like, "he was crazy, but he said xyz and that's true!"
but why does it resonate with people? because it's vague enough that you can apply to it an opinion you already held. people like charlie manson trick you into thinking they provided some insight, when it was your own insight all along. you do not need them and you never did.
i'm sorry you were exposed to that kind of influence, and i'm glad you got away. i can only imagine how chaotic it must have been.
He was near genius; albeit in a skewed way. Super astute insight, & a twisted philosopher. An unusually atypical mind. Organized chaos in harmony.
@@calvin277 just because someone has verbal alacrity and imagination does not make them a genius: psychopaths usually have a higher intelligence because they've spent so much time exercising their intellect working out how to trick an manipulate but calling him a genius and a philosopher is like calling Jeffrey Dahmer a romantic and an artist.
I really appreciated how you said he has both psychotic AND psychopathic symptoms and the difference between the two , and how one disorder can take prevalence over the other. Interesting. Thank you
Perfectly said 😊
There's plenty of psychotics who aren't violent. But Manson is a mishmash of everything 🤷🏻♂️
I have BPD which is the line between Psychosis and neurosis.
Yes... Dr. G's explanation of Charlies behavior being a combination of psychopath, psychotic and performer helped me understand why he is such a fascinating man to watch and listen to.
I realized i have psychotic traits 😢
5:24 is not an example of psychotic speech...its literally just slang terms for dabbling with drugs "dibby dabby, chippying, but I don't really get down heavy with it " it actually makes perfect sense
Yes, he's so funny. Yes, kind of like Snoop Dog talks.
Yep
I'm sure if Manson asked the interviewer if she was "hip to that jive, Turkey?" Dr. G would say it was psychotic babble even though that's exactly how hippies talked back then. My Dad was proficient in hippie talk.
@@lindabishop1402 This isn't slang or AAVE ☠️ He's just babblin 🤣. He's crazy
@@M.A2600 hahaha, yes, he is crazy, but the dibby dab chippying sounds like what they used to call Crank. Like Black beauties, Red devils, yellow jackets, whities, etc and meth or crank.
Diane had full control of the entire interview. She did an excellent job. Thanks Dr. G
Did he answer some of the questions truthfully? No?
Then no, she had no control.
@GregorPQ didnt matter if he answered everything truthfully or not, she kept control and kept it on track. She kept calm, cool, and stayed on the path she intended. Also, kept him back into the interview and not off the rails.
@@jennifers.3818 So he didn't answer anything truthfully and she didn't run out crying and screaming. No, that is not what I would call control.
@@GregorPQhe manipulated her like he does with every interviewer, he doesn't answer truthfully in order to make people believe in him and to see him as harmless and a victim
@@jennifers.3818you're right; she did very well with a hostile interviewee in keeping his rants to a min and keeping the interview on as much of a track as was possible.
One thing charlie never abided was an overly domineering, in your (his) face type of questioning...it required her to almost manipulate him back onto track and she did as well as anyone possibly could.
I've asked The Behavior Panel to cover Charlie for years now. Thanks for making your channel #1 in my book by covering him!
Thank you! He was actually more interesting than I expected. Especially, the post-interview behavior.
I don't know what it is about the guys on The Behavior Panel, but instinctively I dislike each one of them. You would think I'd find one, at least, of the four unobjectionable, but I can't.
I have tried so hard to get through one of their videos. I just can't. I don't have anything against them, I just find 4 long drawn out opinions to be too much. I get bored
iv never been able to get through a manson interview ...until now...very enlightening ...thank you...
Try the one with Ron Regan Jr. - it's surprisingly grounded.
Thank you for doing this series. It's fascinating. I've been interested in Charles Manson ever since I read Helter Skelter in the '70s. I was only 6 when the murders took place, and since my teens I've been interested in what makes people like him tick.
I commented in a previous video that I would very much like to see you do a Flashback Forensics on some of his followers; in particular, Patricia Krenwinkel, Susan Atkins, and Leslie Van Houten; and even Tex Watson, and Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme.
Read the book Chaos. It really puts it all in perspective.
I definitely plan to analyze his followers as well. I'm going to work that into a video on how people become part of a cult.
I would also love to see that. He's an interesting character but idk why in the world anyone would follow him so hard.
@@drgexplains Yes! Please! Was brought up in something like that,but it never impressed me. Outsider there. Lonely but man! I'm proud of myself to be a little psychologist already then.(
First education psychology,then theologian.)🙄 no choice really. The groundwork was laid for me.😄
Never tired of the inner life of people.
I meant not a manson cult but the typical "evangelical" swindle scheme. That "holier than you" bully mafia.
I can’t believe how exhausting this must’ve been for you to read, Dr. G. Diane handles him like the awesome journalist she is, so much respect for her. 💖
She was amazing. I loved seeing him irked because she wouldn't fall for any of his mind tricks.
She is a brave woman, 🙏🙏
Dr. G probably needed therapy after this analysis.
Dr G: Yea doc... I just recently completed my video on Charlie Manson and ever since, I can't stop talking hippie, man. Ya dig?😂
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It must have wrinkled up his forehead.
Wow, I have never seen the “after the interview” section before. Thanks for that great analysis!
"Im not a violent person," he growls. Lol
He isn't. There's no evidence tying him to those murders. Those druggy Killers framed Manson thinking they'd get early release. They lied.
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Hi again dr G ! It would be interesting to hear you analyse Mansons parole hearings? As we all know that follow your channel and your analyses, dr G you are great! Thank you for sharing this with us ❤
Thanks, I'll have to check those out!
@@drgexplainsoooh I wanna see that
A very interesting parole hearing is the one for Tex Watts who actually did the killing. Sharon Tates mother was there and after she said her peace his attorney packed up his notes because he knew it was a wrap. She was a powerhouse. My heart goes out to her. She believed Manson was blamed more than he should’ve been for the murders
Thank you Dr. G for another great informative video!
Thank you!
Your Flashback Forensics are my favorite, I am binging them now. So fascinating, thank you!
I never could understand him when he talked. Thank you for explaining why.
Fascinating to watch the after interview. Thanks!
the fact that he knocks it off as soon as it's time to be physically removed again in his cuffs almost makes the dominant, rageful behavior even more chilling. it shows that he he can switch it on or off, and he can do that whenever he wants to. and he did. for years.
Thanks Dr. G, that was intense & very interesting. I really enjoy your take on the notorious criminals from the past. The one on Bundy was great as well. If you are still taking suggestions, I would like to see your take on Aileen Wuornos and Gary Gilmore. Thanks
Wuornos is coming soon. I'll have to add Gilmore as well. Thanks!
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I've been really looking forward to you doing Charles Manson I've been learning so much from you thank you so much I enjoy your channel and I have been trying to go through and watch all of your videos
Awesome, thank you!
Love all your videos! I would like to see you do one on OJ Simpson.
Just found your channel and watching lots of your back catalogue! Great videos! ❤
This was great. I never realized just how much of an actor Charlie was 😂.
For some reason just found you-- Love this content!!!! Going back to everything!!!! Thank you sooo much!!!💙💜❤️
Hi Dr G I recently discovered your channel and I've been binge watching your videos. Psychology is very fascinating! Former Manson family member Leslie Van Houten was just granted parole it would be interesting to analyze her.
I plan on analyzing her soon actually. Thanks!
Thank you! Looking forward to it.😁👍
Ive heard that he developed this persona at any early age as a defense mechanism. Particularly as someone who is somewhat small in stature who had been in the system since his youth. Like he really leans into the 'crazy', to intimidate potential threats. The best defense is a good offense, as they say.
Makes sense
After watching the end, when interview is over, it seems sad. Like, hes tired. That hes had this, over the top, evil character attached to him. Everyone treats him as an extreme, dangerous man. Imagine having this stuck on you, you're ENTIRE life, even when you're old and just want to have connections. Afterall, he is just human
I saw an interview with someone that was in prison with him. And he said the same thing about him.
He said this side of him was all an act that he used as a defense mechanism
@@jennifers.3818do you think someone like charlie manson is capable of connecting with people? i truly believe that his version of connection is control. he's not yearning for human connection, he's yearning for someone to stare at him with adoration and hang on his every word.
@@zubetp Not anymore, well not after a certain point. He shut that part off a long long time ago.
Dr G , I appreciate all of your insightful commentary. I learn so much from listening to your analysis. I look forward to your posts/ videos. As I said before, I would love to hire you as my personal coach in life😊Dr G you have a special gift of interpretation of others and explaining to us so we can understand. Dr G, Thank you!!!
WOW! Outstanding video! I especially loved the last few minutes....
Ooo I never even thought of Manson for this! Good call lol. Thank you for another great educational video 😊
Thanks for watching!
Fantastic detail
“If you are me and I am you then everything you do for you is for me too”…. Dang that was a bar. I bet that went over everyone’s head
Your videos are my go-to before I sleep. They calm me down and help me with my insomnia. It became like my ASMR😅 I love your analyses.
Thank you. This was a fascinating analysis and it was interesting to get a look "behind the curtain" at the end of the interview.
I hope I'm not psychotic. As an old hippie, I understood everything he said. 😄 I heard lots of people, especially would-be gurus or rockers who thought they were deep/political/mystical (take your choice), speak this way. I may have spoken this way once or twice myself when I thought I was deep/political/mystical.
Haha! You're not psychotic. I did too.
Cheech & Chong:
“How’s my drivin’ man?”
“I think we’re parked, man.”
I believe it’s more that he changed his speaking patterns or inserted this in to make people relate to him.
It’s a very relatable way of speaking but he doesn’t maintain it.
I could understand most of what he was trying to convey, albeit I’m a few minutes in and it’s been years since I ever watched this stuff.. but you can understand while also realizing his way of thinking and speaking is not natural healthy or normal.
Also I’m sure if you listened without the pauses.. listened to it all as a story you’d see he’s jumping around. I didn’t notice until I had to remind myself that I’m hearing the phrases in increments.
Nice video. I was picking up what you were putting down, man.
Diane Sawyer handled the interview so well. She remained calm and soft spoken to encourage him to open up and show his full range of personality. He liked her.
Great analysis.
Truly interesting coverage Doc! I think my fascination with psych began with Charlie back when I was in high school. Will definitely be watching this one a few times! May also make a request, Jim Jones. Thanks doc!
This was great Dr. G. Very interesting! Would love to see more! Thank you so much
I like these Flashback videos. They give us a perspective that wasn't shared when they occurred. The last part of this - Manson without his "mask" was especially intriguing.
Thanks Dr. G!
Great analysis Dr. G 💯😊
Thankyou for your analysis of Charles Manson. He's a piece of work. At times I almost felt sorry for him and not because he plays the victim at one point, but I wonder if his babbling and psychotic ramblings are from way too much LSD use. He's lived in a violent, crazy world of prison and institutions most of his life so it's no wonder murder and mayhem doesn't phase him. I can see how his behaviour and manner of "conversation" could be persuasive to vulnerable, drug addicted young people. He's certainly a performer and like you said, he's proud of his performance. To me, he's a sad and vulnerable little man who found a way to get through life, controlling malleable youngsters searching for something to hold on to. He can be as normal as the next person when the cameras are off. He can even be quite likeable at times. Manson is a character: he's right there. Manufactured caricature is what he is. It's all a very sad tale from start to finish isn't it, Dr G? Very interesting. I'd like to see more of Manson and look forward to Ramirez and others you're going to look at.
Look at the cia experiments they carried out on him. He was a highly intelligent man. Still is
Nah....It's a myth that LSD makes people psychotic. He is a period piece of a very different time, and the result of extremely tragic life circumstances.
He was violently raped and abused as a kid, read the book in his own words
I really enjoyed this episode! Dr. G, have you considered analyzing the FBI interview of serial killer Israel Keyes? He was one of the most terrifying killers I've ever seen.
Such a great suggestion!
Fascinating content! I watched your video on Ted Bundy and now this, and they are absolutely insightful. It feels wrong to say I'm "into" serial killers, because I really am not interested to hear about the atrocities, but I'm rather interested in the ways they are different to "normal" people. And your videos are just about that. Thank you!
You answered my question: do you think he’s performing?
Love all your videos
Thank you so much! It was fascinating to me to get real confirmation of his performance from the post-interview footage.
This interview had me scared...I grew up in the 60s . Glad I got to see the end of the interview. I wouldn't have gone near him.
Thank you Dr G. Fascinating and so well explained by yourself . 🇦🇺
Fascinating! Thank you!
That was brilliant Dr. G! The moment the camera wasn’t “rolling”! What a shift! You do incredible work with your insights! You should start a training class to teach people like myself to not be manipulated and to know how to argue, and not fall for the deflections!
I would love to see more on Manson! Keep going! Also, I’m going to check, but if not I hope you analyze Edmund Kemper! Please?! Thanks again!
Wow! What an interesting study!
He is/was something else!
Thanks Dr G!
This was a fascinating video. Thank you very much for sharing. I feel like I've learned a lot not just about Charles Manson's mind and personality, but about how others like him manipulate others so successfully. Your channel is by far the best of its kind and I look forward to more videos like this.
I’m still hoping for you to do one on Zachary Davis he seems so complex and the age behind the killing makes me so curious what mental illness he may have actually been suffering from.
he was straight up possessed by some kind of demonic entity
Sociopath, something he picked up during childhood
Dr G,
If you haven't watched Manson's 1992 parole hearing, you should. He explains to the board exactly where his state of mind is coming from. Charlie's psychological perspective has roots in a childhood that was radically deviant from the normal experience of most people. Prison was his home since he was 5 years old when he visited his mother there. He was incarcerated in some form or other since he was 9 because his mother abandoned him and he had no one who would take custody of him. By the time he got out of prison in 1967 he spent 17 of his 32 years in jail, mostly for theft. Corrections officers and older inmates were his role models. From a young age he learned to be a criminal in crime school.
I'm not buying the hippie cult leader narrative. It seems more like a bunch of drug using criminals took over an old blind man's ranch where they stored stolen cars and sold drugs. Charlie was in his mid-thirties and everyone else was in their early twenties so it was only human nature that the younger people would look to Charlie for guidance which he provided them through prison wisdom. He told them the way they needed to be to survive as an inmate in prison because this is all that he knew. Along the way they were all doing a lot LSD (provided to the hippies as part of the CIA's MK Ultra in the wild study) which is known to blunt the ego.
There were 9 known murders by this group. Of the 9 murders Charles "Tex" Watson inflicted mortal wounds upon 8 of the victims. Real sick stuff this Tex guy did. He was a thrill killer who had very irrational/psychotic motives behind his actions. Tex was using methamphetamines in addition to LSD during these murders and believed he was the devil. He says Manson ordered him to kill, but I refuse to believe the word of a man who killed 8 people for the thrill of it especially considering one of his victims was an eight and a half month pregnant woman. The other murder (Gary Hindman) started as an extortion for money that can be described as a drug deal gone wrong, happens-every-day kind of thing.
The point I am trying to make is that Manson DID NOT receive a fair trial, he was by the judge refused opportunity to put on a defense. The story the prosecution wove (helter skelter) was fiction based on Krishna Venta, a true cult leader who was murdered in 1958 only a few miles away from Spahn ranch. If Charlie had received a fair trial he would have been convicted of conspiracy after the fact and Tex Watson would have taken the majority of the blame for these murders. I can only speculate the reason the court would frame Manson as being a cult leader. The first reason is to cover up the true reason for these people's extreme group psychosis which was chronic LSD use that was provided to them by the CIA. The second motivation would be to make money selling entertainment and the third was to frighten the population in a similar manor as Big Brother did to the outer party during the "2 minute hate" in the novel 1984.
"WOW"👍
I'm so grateful for this comment. I've been thru so many books on this and EVERYTHING you said is true. VB concocted this whole helter skelter, race war nonsense.
Anyway, GREAT job on your account of Charlie and his situation.
I just discovered your clips today and I've gotta say, there's nobody I'd rather like to have a chat with. Interesting content pal!
Another fantastic analysis, Dr. G. You’re always so on point and do such an excellent job explaining your observations. Loving your channel!!!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Loved this one!!! I would really enjoy seeing you analyze more of the big name historical figures we all know.! ❤
Very good Dr. G. Interesting interview!
Thank you so much for breaking this down for better understanding. I really like your explanations in each of your videos.
I alwayS love Manson interviews!
Hello Dr. G. I bumped into your analyses videos the other day. They are very interesting to watch and very informative. Keep doing them. I'd like to see your analyses of Scott Peterson and Christopher Watts. I think you mentioned having done them, so I'll look around for them. Thank you for the interesting videso.
Intense! Diane Sawyer has balls of steel too.
Wrong parents can make it difficult making it in the world
Always has!!! But also, Ive seen some interviews where she crossed lines with good people.
This was very interesting and enlightening. Hope to see more of Charles Manson. Thank you.
Thanks for another great analysis, Doc. I was diagnosed at 50 with autism, and as you can imagine there are crazy layers of trauma to this point, now at 54. CPTSD to be sure.
I'm now relying on the system to survive, which makes those disabled live in ultra poverty. So now based on my circumstances, and all of the traumatic past including bullying etc, I'm a product of the system. I believe Charles was as well. Who knows, if he had been raised in a nurturing and loving environment, as opposed to being in the system since he was 8 years old, he may have been another Chuck Yeager... Albeit a very tiny one.
Are you referring to SSI? Because SSI does indeed require that a recipient live in poverty. It's predicated on the assumption that a recipient will be living with at least one other person, likely a parent.
I've been disabled since I was seven. I didn't get SSI until I was 45. You need to know that after both parents have died - and this may apply to someone who was raised by an aunt or sibling - SSI recipients can apply for an upgrade to the Social Security check the parent who had the most in Social Security would have been receiving, or have received.
You need to talk to a Social Security lawyer immediately. I missed out on the upgrade. It's a complicated story. It happened because of the independent actions of two psychopathic people who didn't know one another, the woman in charge of medical records for my goofball, childish spoiled brat doctor, and the administrative law judge at my hearing.
I had to live on SSI alone between 2002 - 2016, and how I did it, God alone knows.
If you are ineligible for the upgrade, there is the ABLE Act of 2015. You need to research this. It allows an SSI recipient to establish an ABLE Account. People who are so inclined can deposit money into that account, and it does not affect the recipient's eligibility to continue receiving SSI.
In 2016, my wonderful church starting making donations to my account, and this has enabled me to escape the desperate poverty you alluded to so correctly.
I hope and will pray that your situation eases.
@@bobtaylor170 I appreciate your kind words and the information very much. I'm actually in Canada, and referring to ODSP. Unfortunately, I'm alone in the world now and I've maxed out at 17K. It's just a horrid and inhumane system of government, at least in the province of Ontario. It is what it is, and somehow someway I have to find peace with that. I've always been a natural idealist, so I doubt that will happen.
Again, thank you, it's refreshing to receive such a thoughtful & genuine message on a social media platform. Cheers.☮️
Very underrated and interesting episode thanks for doing this Dr.G
Amazing analysis! Thank you!
The only way watching this man is listening to you.
Your indepth analysis.
You are a treasure:)
What an impeccable analysis. I've never been particularly interested in Manson, but this analysis was incredibly interesting.
Thank you Dr. G fantastic explanation from you Dr.I will subscribe now!
He didn’t mean give me money that you owe me. He shot someone for Tex, so he was telling Tex it’s time to return the favor and get Bobby out of jail.
Awesome video Dr. G
W0W What an Exhausting Creep ! I have never watched anything on Manson. I only got 14 min into this video - and need a break. His Aggressive Game Player with Bouts of Shouting are just too creepy for me. Thank you for your analysis. I once had a close relationship with a very disturbed controlling at times borderline psychotic emotional abuser and this brings that back in nanoseconds. He was very creative, charismatic - considered himself to be self made and self realized - - but he was a vampire, a sadistic scared parasite. I broke away from him and never let him near me after getting to my breaking point and realizing I couldn't help him and couldn't bare him any longer.
Dr. G....U r incredible! Love love love ur content!!!
You heard him say I can’t leave Bobby in jail, pay me what you owe me. Bobby Beausoleil (a Manson follower) killed Gary Hinman a week before the Tate murders. He was in jail for it and one theory is that Charlie ordered the Tate murders to take the suspicion away from Bobby. Both crime scenes had Pig written in blood on the walls so it I was obvious they were connected.
Yes. But Charlie didn't send them there
@@robinowens420 ok
He was telling them to get money from people who owed THEM.
Sebring and Voytek burned Watson on a drug deal weeks before. You people are willfully stupid about this whole scenario.
Interesting. Thanks for the videos.
Mental Health Nurse here. Manson is not psychotic in this interview. He is trying to be in control all the time and is always attention seeking. He has always been like this.
Very interesting, thankyou. I'd like to see more of these kinds of analysis
Yes more of these. He sure is a character
This is about body language, not his crimes dear. Do not criticize.
If you think he is a character, watch his parole hearing from 1997 and his interview with penny daniels The guy was insane and broken but brilliant in many ways. He knew wayy to much about religion, politics, society etc which is why he was to dangerous to the establishment to ever be paroled. He would have spilled alot of beans and named names. There is some specilection that he was ex cia that when rogue, started his own "cult" outside of society and was scapegoated and destroyed by the government that he rebelled against by leaving.
I'm watching your true crime videos in order & I have to say this one I found the most fascinating so far.
Loving the Flashback series.
Jon Benet Ramsey parents, Tonya Harding or Michael Jackson trial next?
If anyone is interested in Charles story, read Manson by Jeff Guinness. Excellent book! Thanks Dr G!
I really enjoyed this viedo clip. It was very interesting.
The scary thing about Manson, is that he did in fact achieve the fame and notoriety that he was seeking in the 60s, or rather infamy. Although for very negative reasons. In fact, he's probably MORE well known like he was, than if he had actually become a recording artist
Ive seen this interview before but never the stuff after. How interesting! Great coverage!
I think it is important to remember that he actually was a victim most of his childhood. As a baby in a car seat, his mother traded him for a pitcher of beer. She despised his very existence & was burdened with having to care for him, because she was a drug addicted prostitute, & he just got in the way of that. So he spent many years in orphanage’s being sodomized because he was small & not as strong as the other boys. After too many years of that, he ran away-and at a very young age he had to look out for himself on the streets.
I’m not sure at exactly what age, but the good ole CIA recruits him & uses him for experimenting, especially with LSD. Imagine, if you can, what they did to his mind. You could ask Cathy O’Brien or Fiona Barnett what the cia & project MK ultra & project MK Naomi did to them & how their minds were fractured & their bodies abused & how they were absolutely tortured by Psychopaths imported from Germany during project Paperclip.
It is very important to be aware of who made Manson what he was, because a lot of that was done deliberately, & only Manson was held responsible.
You said everything i was thinking. Thank you.
Nice to see someone new to me who knows what the majority is still ignorant of. Lifeafterlies.
Yep
@@l.k.3304 you’re quite welcome! I had a tiny toke before I responded, & I guess I got a bit deep, but the story in its entirety is important. He actually sang pretty well!
@@333Mesmerized I never just ‘buy’ the story the msm has been prepped to spew, & curiosity for the actual truth motivates me to dig, & dig deep. I was using the Brave search engine for a bit, but it seems it has been compromised as of late. Any suggestions?
Your work is amazing! It is a total revelation on YT.
Thank you.
More on Charles Manson would be appreciated. Thanks for an interesting analysis.
When he talks, I completely understand everything he is saying and what he is getting at. Always have.
yeah your name is tweaker420666 youre probably the kind of person he targeted..
Fantastic video.
Best quote "if you feel so bad why don't you write a book and make some money 🧐"
🌸 personally for me I think that the more you watch and listen to Charlie's interviews and behaviors through the years, the more you can kind of tell when he goes into this psychotic episode in the middle of his diatribe
I just came across a video of Amber Hilberling. The young lady who pushed her husband and he fell out of a high tide window. I’d love to see an analysis on the video of her in the room with her grandmother while being recorded. It’s after the incident when she was brought in, but before detectives tried to question her. She was in the room with her grandmother and talked and talked. But when the detective came in, she said she wanted to have a lawyer present. She said a TON in the hour long video.
Oh yes! She was amazingly self entitled! My gawd. I think what you see in her is incredible immaturity combined with the entitlement of a narcissist combined with poor coping skills.
I haven't heard of this case but it does sound like it would interesting watching Dr G cover it.
Tom O'Neill book CHAOS is a must-read to begin to understand Charles Manson...
Amen
That's the first time in a interview I have seen someone show his human side ty for your evaluation !
Thanks for another excellent analysis. I’m looking forward to hearing what you have to say about Richard Ramirez. I find him creepier than Manson.
Yes. He's terrifying.
Ramirez was definitely creepier and more dangerous than Manson.
Ramirez was creepy but his interviews are way too try hard. He tries to sound like a guy that has some deep meanings but says the most obvious bullshit...Charlie Manson he is not when it comes to being able to verbalize.
This was an interesting and very informative video ~ I've never seen anyone break it down and have it make perfect sense ~ in a simple form! Outstanding! ❤
I absolutely appreciate you starting this channel to show others how master manipulators behave ❤
I’d love a video on Steven Avery’s interview from making a murderer! Love the content, thank you for giving me a new favorite channel to binge watch. ❤
I've only just discovered your channel and your videos are addictive! So entertaining and educational.
You explain things perfectly and your voice is very soothing.
If there is enough content, it would be great if you could analyse Marjorie Deahl Armstrong (involved in the pizza delivery man bomb killing)
Yes! Marjorie Diehl-Armstrong is a fascinating person. She was supposed to have had a genius IQ. Would LOVE to see Dr G do an analysis of her and that whole peculiar case
Very good podcast, thanks.
There is some truth to what he said about getting his "brother" out of jail. The "brother" of whom he speaks is Bobby Beausoleil. Bobby was the lead guitarist in the musical group that Charlie was trying to make a success of. Bobby was the most talented musician in the group. Without Bobby the group wouldn't have stood a chance of seeing much success. Bobby had been arrested for a murder that occurred a couple of weeks before the Tate-LaBianca murders. It has been said that someone at Spahn Ranch (no one knows exactly who) came up with the idea of committing a copycat murder like the one that Bobby had been charged with, the purpose of which was to provide Bobby with at least some plausible deniability. The rest is history. THAT, I believe is what Charlie meant when he spoke about getting his "brother" out of jail.
actually, its because manson was involved in hinman's murder. Bobby stabbed hinman to death, but manson had struck hinman with a sword on the side of his face a couple of days earlier. So he didn't want to be implicated in the murders while beausoleil was in custody...also the sword he used was from the armory of the straight satan's motorcycle gang, so they were putting pressure on him
"It has been said that someone at Spahn Ranch (no one knows exactly who) came up with the idea of committing a copycat murder " patricia krenwinkle and susan atkins
That was amazing.. thank you!