The problem with this “fabric” or interlocking matrix is that when compressed, it changes in dimension, making the overall structure larger or smaller based on the environment and the container. The true breakthrough would be if you could do this without changing the size of the matrix. Motorcycle spine protectors have been doing this for years based upon shock impacts and they act similar to a non-Newtonian fluid. The concept here should be similar in result, but the force active against the item should be controlled externally by the user and not passively by the environment…that’s where the breakthrough would occur. In this case, it is more like the plastic container is the stressed member and the internal structure is like a simulated truss that merely supports the outer shell.
Good concepts there. At the end of the video I was thinking if you ran strong string through each row of material, you can use a device to tighten or compress the materials on command with the turn of a dial. It would be similar to some shoe laces on sports gear. Turn the nob and all the laces tighten.
Also, to seal in vacuum and keep it sealed is not so easy for day to day applications... imagine you create a tent as she said. It's strong and durable. Until the plastic gets a crack...
I can imagine strings inside the meshes that can contract, giving the same contracting force the vacuum sealing does. Maybe a motor on one side with the strings through the structure. But this setup feels familiar that it mightve been done before and i just forgot the name..
@@colonelstriker2519 I know what you mean about it sounding familiar. I feel like I remember a childrens toy that uses the same principle, a limp animal that pieces together and truns rigid when you pull on a string.
@@danielmcsween884 thats how most things nowadays are discovered. You take some simple phenomenon and find other usages for this. If you consider the amount of knowledge, we have nowadadays, it is not something that weird. The point, where one human could learn most of the technic/creation knowledge, we crossed around the industrial revolution
As I see it most of the stiffness comes from the insulation material not the mesh. I don't think this would scale well by just using aluminium or steel for the mesh. In the "stiffen on demand" scenario would we need a vacuum pump attached to the mesh? The idea is cool but as I see it there are many challenges before it is usable in production.
@@JamesCarneval Great point. I guess I only commend about the vacuum stiffening because it was the only working prototype I saw. Those other hypothesized ideas indeed seem promising. I specially like the thermal one. If I remember correctly something similar is used on NASA's memory mesh tires.
Instead of using vacuum to bring the "chain links" together, i think it would be pretty cool to use electromagnets built into the material that you can switch on and off to stiffen the material. Anothet advantage of electrmagnets, is that you can control the stiffness infinitesimally by varyng the voltage and thus magnet strength and thus packing force.
I'm a little stoned but how about a lightly resined ramen noodle body for a race car/hotrod. . Ramen is light and the fiberglass resin would bond the skin matrix together. You could shape it with a little steam.😁
I also used to print this kind of chainmail. So fun to touch it, it was one of my first resinprint projects. Btw. it's always good to call sth "smart material"
I mean… the rigidity is primarily just a factor of the plastic from the vacuum seal increasing its surface area against the material though, yeah? I can't see any clear proof of the material _ITSELF_ doing anything - especially because they LITERALLY proved the same property exists with a bag of coffee grounds…
Indeed. Would this be as rigid in the vacuum of space? Would these shapes be able to support more weight than a equally thick bag of coffee-grounds? @2:23, could've shown a side by side comparison between coffee-grounds and this 'smart'-material and, I don't know, a bag filled with round beads as a control. Why didn't they think of this ..... Emergency casks are nowadays of the inflatable kind and become rigid due to overpressure in the air-chambers. Any engineer knows maintaining an over-pressure is much simpler than maintaining an under-pressure. What happens when the bag develops an air-leak?
Maybe retake your physics 101 class before you start trying to one up legit researchers.. They explained how the complex shapes create more spots of contact and a stronger material..
@@josephjoestar9269 …and the legit researchers are the ones who demonstrated the same property with a bag of coffee beans - hence the question, since there isn't any clear indication about how much is the effect of the material within the vacuum seal vs. the vacuum seal itself. This is because in a vacuum-sealed plastic, you're also dealing with friction against the plastic seal limiting flexibility.
first thing i thought was to use copper links w magnets on the vertices where each link connects so when u apply electric currents the eddy forces would cause it to contract or relax
@@CheekiScrubb I found it odd they just brushed over the idea of magnets in the video, and then went into way more thought about using a pulley type system 😳 I certainly don't have the knowledge and capability to explore the idea further, but I hope someone who does makes it happen. It seems entirely possible to me
Comment for those people: If you think its easy, then you're not into science. (Those people don't read comments thought, they just dump comments like littering on the street.)
Well yea. If you vacuum seal things that aren't a liquid; the package becomes more rigid. Great work there California institute of technology for discovering vacuum sealers
@@josephjoestar9269 I mean, did they tho, from what I can tell(I dont have much knowledge about this) it's been around sense 3d printed chainmail, and from people in the comments something like it, is in bike suspension
@@TakeApartLab I mean, the listed applications they are looking to explore with it is cool though. A lot of engineering is just using common ideas in novels ways.
I think the key would be figuring out how to 3D print piezoelectric "muscles" between each link. you'd probably have to develop a manufacturing method for making a grid of tiny piezoelectric muscles and then 3D print the chainmail around those. Then maybe wrap the whole thing in neoprene and kevlar for protection of the muscles. Across a large sheet of chainmail, many muscles acting in tandem should produce a decent amount of overall force. Then, even if some of the system was damaged, it should still be effective. By measuring the drawn current, it might even be possible to monitor the integrity and potential of the system.
"Smart materials, also called intelligent or responsive materials are designed materials that have one or more properties that can be significantly changed in a controlled fashion by external stimuli, such as stress, moisture, electric or magnetic fields, light, temperature, pH, or chemical compounds"
@@schlierenguy it wouldn’t serve as a replacement for rebar. It would be more like glass fibre. I could see specific applications where parts of this reinforcement would be made stiff and other areas left lose to have controlled failure points.
The material as shown seems to only be useful under compression, and concrete doesn't need help with compression. Rebar and fiber is added to concrete to help with tension.
You gotta you figure out an electromagnetic source of power for the right type of conductive material that could be turned on with the flip of a switch which would cause all of it to grasp together to stiffen it on command I personally think graphite would be perfect for this application
This could have so many functions. I could imagine it being used in many medical situations, like when trying to move someone who may have a broken neck or spine. Also, in archialogical sites, this could quickly be deployed around the sight, and harden in shape, allowing for protection from the elements.
When any particle looses space between them they become solid, and air has maximum space in between them! That’s not new!! But the chain could be a good thig!
Yeah and they could have put the 5kg brick on top of the vacuumed coffee bag as well and it would withstand the force. I just think they don't know where to go with the chain exactly
They didn't say it was new, they said it was the inspiration for the project and explained how it gave them the idea for creating complex interlocking geometric shapes. Where's yall reading comprehension at
Use thermal expansion /contraction. Heat it up (loose) cool it down. (Stiff) metals expand and contract alot and this is used to interference fit various components together, high tolerances required tho
Interesting this reminds me of certain types of chain if you twist them then they can become ridgid intersting concept, perhaps it can be paired with numatic tube robots?
A full haptic suit for VR what makes you feel every punch and hit from its straining on your body in that particular spot? That's amazing we are very close to player one
I remember there was a robot made by someone or some team over 10 years ago that figured this out. They put little balloons filled with coffee grounds at the end of a robot arm and sucked the air out to pick up any oddly shaped object they wanted it to and it worked very well IIRC.
For making fabric you can use nitinol which has property of going back to its original shape when heated, by making it with a certain shape and liking them together and when they are heated they will try to go back to original form but because of interlinking they can't do rather they'll get stiff. And the material is strong so it's better and can be used. It's just an idea. Hope it helps
I wish i worked in a place that made stuff like this. I have so many idea's but no way to creat them. And I see so many different ways to use things that are already in existence. I'm too creative to be stuck in my own head.
Have you thought of using a 3d printer? You could get together with like minded people near you and experiment with different materials and shapes. There is nothing stopping you from starting your own company or your own "MAKE" or maker organization geared specifically for creating new technologies or improving existing industrial techniques. Don't limit yourself. You don't have to be someone's employee. You can do this own your own. The idea man is more important than the engineer with a doctorate. Creativity is what drives innovation, not the outdated institutions currently in place. Crowd 9thsourcing or open source technology can be just as good if not better and beneficial than the work of single corporations. I'm also a fellow creative. Let me know if you want a few hints or info on how or where to get started. I have many sources of unusual and unorthodox information at my disposal and depending on what your point of view, I may be able to help.
I wrote scifi short stories with a similar material, used to make uniforms. Under normal air pressure, it relaxed and "breathed", but if the pressure on the exterior dropped below a threshold, it closed the weave and interlocked into nearly airtight semi-rigid armor. Your uniform, with triggering force fields for helmet and gauntlets, becomes an emergency spacesuit. Many things that were sci-fi yesterday become everyday today. Like the waterbed -- "invented" by Robert Heinlein as an acceleration couch in "Double Star", or a medical bed in "Stranger in a Strange Land".
As and engineer I often forget how the average person doesn't fully understand what they are seeing. It seems that most people don't understand the difference between the plastic of a vacuum packed object supporting a load vs a rigid structure within a vacuum packed back supporting a load. While watching this I was thinking magnetics as well. BMW came out with a "smart fluid" for shock absorbers that could change viscosity through electromagnetic properties. This has unlimited potential for so many applications.
With small enough particles and a control system, this could be really cool! I remember when Nolan was doing research for Batman Begins, he came across body armors made of MR fluid and non-newtonian fluids. Basically, they would be loose and flexible under ordinary circumstances, but could become stiff and rigid if needed. Non-newtonian armor that stiffens on impact or under pressure made it into news reports and documentaries and the like before running into some engineering issues, but I never heard anything more about the electrically controlled MR armor. Maybe this could be a successor or replacement?
dude, I was searching for smartcape and came across this video. whole time i was like how "could batman use this". Like doing a cape shield or turning it into a ramp to deflect a motor cycle coming at him thing.
The solution would be to make a single chain of each and weave those chains (like threads). To create stiffness in any one section or part you TWIST the thread (chain) and it stiffens in its current position. The object/fabric would not change dimensions only orientation. The twist would lock adjacent elements in the thread preventing further movement and allow it to be load bearing. You could do a similar with with these pnumatic snake robots. They could weave themselves into a structure or around a human and become a scaffold.
This is a great idea...I see having something un the car that you can press a button on and it stiffens so you can use it to get out of a ditch or if your car gets stuck in sand or mud where you need to place something under the tire to get the vehicle out... this has a lot of practicle applications including storage imagine boxes you press a button and this fabric turns into a box you can use they would be easy to store and reuseable...I'd like to see what they ultimately decide this is going to be used for but I see it being utilized in almost any industry...
While reinventing the wheel can be fun... Might be better to get working on those bridges with what we have NOW instead of later.... Since they keep falling apart.
This definitely holds a lot of potential, maybe not immediately useful (like the invention of Laser found use much later)! Very innovative design none the less!
Are you stupid? This is basic as basic gets... compressing materials to a more dense material is as old as time.. some of yall are so stupid its sickening
The principle is that something that can flow like a liquid can behave like a solid in different circumstances. Here it's compression that allows that change from a pourable state to a rigid state. The vaccum is just a means to achieve it. You could be on a beach and allow sand to run between your fingers, but if you punch the sand instead it doesn't behave n the same way.
As a HEMA fighter, I am curious about it's practicality. For instance. HEROS MAILE. It is flat ring riveted steel mail. It to some extant, is flexible but ridged. The rings of this chain maile would not be durable in HEMA environments unless made of Tungsten.
If made out of metal. Apply a electro magnet to the male and then you could theoretically do the same thing on command turn it off and on on command. This can give you ways to do bridges or structures or even some kind of armor for immediate protection when needed
This is an idea that come out of a bong session. It's an idea for sure.... i would of worked abit more into it before talking about shrink wrapping material to make a bridge...?
I think they are going for a wearable form of oobleck , denser than lead on impact yet soft and form fitting during active wear. Sounds like super suit material if you think a bit. But yeah, a little bit more research will be needed, it could all start from vacuum sealed coffee and end with a super suit!
So, I thought someone had created a "karatand" (see "Stand on Zanzibar" by John Brunner) but instead it's like the textile version of a superconductor. It works but only under conditions that make it impractical for mundane applications.
The point of an analogy is to present the concept in a relatable manner which in this case you seem to think is obvious. That just means the analogy did its job lol
Try looking into electro magnets, they dont have moving parts, just pass small current and they will get charged and attracted to become stiff and turn of current to make them loose. You can also regulate current based on hw stiff u want it to be less current less stiff, more current more stiff.
Lentils are still convex shapes. The whole point of this was to see if taking it a step further and using interlocked shapes (which hence have more points of contact) could significantly improve the stiffness of the structure
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The problem with this “fabric” or interlocking matrix is that when compressed, it changes in dimension, making the overall structure larger or smaller based on the environment and the container. The true breakthrough would be if you could do this without changing the size of the matrix. Motorcycle spine protectors have been doing this for years based upon shock impacts and they act similar to a non-Newtonian fluid. The concept here should be similar in result, but the force active against the item should be controlled externally by the user and not passively by the environment…that’s where the breakthrough would occur. In this case, it is more like the plastic container is the stressed member and the internal structure is like a simulated truss that merely supports the outer shell.
Get in there and help them out! I want my new "sci-fi" materials! lol ;-)
@Blokka Nokka to do what with? Make bracelets or something?
Good point. Pointless video, she seems drowsy
Good concepts there. At the end of the video I was thinking if you ran strong string through each row of material, you can use a device to tighten or compress the materials on command with the turn of a dial. It would be similar to some shoe laces on sports gear. Turn the nob and all the laces tighten.
Also, to seal in vacuum and keep it sealed is not so easy for day to day applications... imagine you create a tent as she said. It's strong and durable. Until the plastic gets a crack...
So to be clear: they haven't figured out how to make it rigid without being vacuum packed yet.. Not sure this deserved to be in a Nature video.
true, that makes it no different than simple foam sheets
Why get rid of the vacuum packing? It can be easily used as is to make temporary structures such as tents.
I can imagine strings inside the meshes that can contract, giving the same contracting force the vacuum sealing does. Maybe a motor on one side with the strings through the structure. But this setup feels familiar that it mightve been done before and i just forgot the name..
@@colonelstriker2519 I know what you mean about it sounding familiar. I feel like I remember a childrens toy that uses the same principle, a limp animal that pieces together and truns rigid when you pull on a string.
@@Felix-dx2qw there's those animals that are rigid but go floppy if you press a button under them?
Man, you could vacuum seal arby's roast beef and it would be rigid just like this new "fabric"
they literally show in the video, that this is the very inspiration they had
or am I too stupid to get the joke
Yeah but vacuum sealing something each tiem you want it stiff is far more cumbersome than using this fabric.
The man's just saying that this seems like a very basic phenomenon and seems hardly innovative.
@@danielmcsween884 thats how most things nowadays are discovered. You take some simple phenomenon and find other usages for this. If you consider the amount of knowledge, we have nowadadays, it is not something that weird. The point, where one human could learn most of the technic/creation knowledge, we crossed around the industrial revolution
@@danielmcsween884 It's usually the most basic innovations that are the most beneficial. No reason to over complicate.
It took them years to discover that when you pack particles together they become more rigid... riveting!
No, definitely not riveting. That would be way stiffer holds.
@@KaizerKilborn haha, dope
No, they already knew that. The science is in finding and >>>understanding why
As I see it most of the stiffness comes from the insulation material not the mesh. I don't think this would scale well by just using aluminium or steel for the mesh. In the "stiffen on demand" scenario would we need a vacuum pump attached to the mesh? The idea is cool but as I see it there are many challenges before it is usable in production.
Let’s experiment 🧪 and what will happen afterwards!
Did you watch the whole thing? At the end she hypothesized on embedding tirants and pulleys in the matrix to stiffen the structure quickly
@@JamesCarneval Great point. I guess I only commend about the vacuum stiffening because it was the only working prototype I saw. Those other hypothesized ideas indeed seem promising. I specially like the thermal one. If I remember correctly something similar is used on NASA's memory mesh tires.
Maybe with electromagnetism?
It'll be interesting to see changes they do to make this into a usable product, how they work out these issues.
I can't believe they used instant coffee instead of real coffee
They didn't wanna waste good coffee beans for a demo.
That was funny
IKR? I was like "wut that's not coffee" LOL
Versaball robot gripper was designed using same principles, ground coffee tho
Instead of using vacuum to bring the "chain links" together, i think it would be pretty cool to use electromagnets built into the material that you can switch on and off to stiffen the material.
Anothet advantage of electrmagnets, is that you can control the stiffness infinitesimally by varyng the voltage and thus magnet strength and thus packing force.
All i can think of is big hero 6
She mentions that at the end
They litterally said they have been experimenting with that.
She literally said that in the video.
Imagine instant ramen that was made like this
I’d pay extra for some boujee noodles
Yeah, you could carry it in your shirt pocket to stop a bullet aimed at your heart.
Yeah, you could carry it in your shirt pocket to stop a bullet aimed at your heart.
When it was vacuum packed it reminded me of the ramen noodles also.
I'm a little stoned but how about a lightly resined ramen noodle body for a race car/hotrod. . Ramen is light and the fiberglass resin would bond the skin matrix together. You could shape it with a little steam.😁
I also used to print this kind of chainmail. So fun to touch it, it was one of my first resinprint projects. Btw. it's always good to call sth "smart material"
can you link STL?
@@m0neez theyre all over thingiverse
1:33 "And how much they can touch each other"
Explains why I can't stiffen on demand.
Lol
Kekw
😢
A medieval knights fantasy
A dead knight-?
Blacksmiths nightmare
Exactly, I already imagine "Medieval warriors in space" XD... or the Demoknight from Team Fortress 2...
It also reminds me of several images that I saw on the internet that showed what the soldiers of the future would be like with medieval styles.
I don't think so as a pointy sword would penetrate easily seen better chainmail but can only be 3d printed.
I mean… the rigidity is primarily just a factor of the plastic from the vacuum seal increasing its surface area against the material though, yeah?
I can't see any clear proof of the material _ITSELF_ doing anything - especially because they LITERALLY proved the same property exists with a bag of coffee grounds…
The rigidity is from the atmosphere compressing the bound particles together. They can't slip past each other, so it's stable.
They could literally replace this with a bag of dirt, so much for big brains and PhDs
Indeed. Would this be as rigid in the vacuum of space?
Would these shapes be able to support more weight than a equally thick bag of coffee-grounds?
@2:23, could've shown a side by side comparison between coffee-grounds and this 'smart'-material and, I don't know, a bag filled with round beads as a control.
Why didn't they think of this .....
Emergency casks are nowadays of the inflatable kind and become rigid due to overpressure in the air-chambers.
Any engineer knows maintaining an over-pressure is much simpler than maintaining an under-pressure.
What happens when the bag develops an air-leak?
Maybe retake your physics 101 class before you start trying to one up legit researchers..
They explained how the complex shapes create more spots of contact and a stronger material..
@@josephjoestar9269 …and the legit researchers are the ones who demonstrated the same property with a bag of coffee beans - hence the question, since there isn't any clear indication about how much is the effect of the material within the vacuum seal vs. the vacuum seal itself.
This is because in a vacuum-sealed plastic, you're also dealing with friction against the plastic seal limiting flexibility.
I prefer coffee grains, benefits include: 1. Warm Color 2. Soothing Aroma 3. Caffeine boost 4. Great with cream
I mean have you had these with cream?
Make it so It responds to a charge so you can just flip a switch between a positive and negative charge to compress and release it. Like a muscle
HAHAHAHA GLAD I FOUND SOMEONE WHO THOUGHT OF THE SAME THING
first thing i thought was to use copper links w magnets on the vertices where each link connects so when u apply electric currents the eddy forces would cause it to contract or relax
@@CheekiScrubb I found it odd they just brushed over the idea of magnets in the video, and then went into way more thought about using a pulley type system 😳 I certainly don't have the knowledge and capability to explore the idea further, but I hope someone who does makes it happen. It seems entirely possible to me
Ooooh I like that
That's a cool idea.
People in the comments: "it's easy to understand even for me, so it's not science."
Comment for those people: If you think its easy, then you're not into science.
(Those people don't read comments thought, they just dump comments like littering on the street.)
Good effort, in construct, begets /good construction/ 🌈
Boom roasted
Well yea. If you vacuum seal things that aren't a liquid; the package becomes more rigid. Great work there California institute of technology for discovering vacuum sealers
U completely missed the point lol..
Dude they designed complex interlocking geometric shapes they didn't just stick coffee grinds in a vacuum bag and say they invented something
@@josephjoestar9269 I mean, did they tho, from what I can tell(I dont have much knowledge about this) it's been around sense 3d printed chainmail, and from people in the comments something like it, is in bike suspension
@@TakeApartLab I mean, the listed applications they are looking to explore with it is cool though. A lot of engineering is just using common ideas in novels ways.
Use rotation to interlock the individual shapes. Twist to lock, untwist to loosen.
+1 for this idea
I think the key would be figuring out how to 3D print piezoelectric "muscles" between each link. you'd probably have to develop a manufacturing method for making a grid of tiny piezoelectric muscles and then 3D print the chainmail around those. Then maybe wrap the whole thing in neoprene and kevlar for protection of the muscles. Across a large sheet of chainmail, many muscles acting in tandem should produce a decent amount of overall force. Then, even if some of the system was damaged, it should still be effective. By measuring the drawn current, it might even be possible to monitor the integrity and potential of the system.
Why they call it 'smart fabric'..the material itself doesn't seem smart at all
Because it can be changed depending on the task
Because tacking "smart", "e-", "i-", or "green" is the way to get attention from people outside of your esoteric field, or to market your gadget.
"Smart materials, also called intelligent or responsive materials are designed materials that have one or more properties that can be significantly changed in a controlled fashion by external stimuli, such as stress, moisture, electric or magnetic fields, light, temperature, pH, or chemical compounds"
@@MrDnB89 thank you! I understand it better now!
This would be great for concrete reinforcement
It would probably be several orders of magnitude more expensive and probably not as effective as metal bars.
@@schlierenguy it wouldn’t serve as a replacement for rebar. It would be more like glass fibre.
I could see specific applications where parts of this reinforcement would be made stiff and other areas left lose to have controlled failure points.
This would do nothing but poorly insulate the concrete only. And be damaged easily rendering it useless
@@joshuamoore3515AMEN ...however it could make for easy molds...and what happens if they use graphene that way?
The material as shown seems to only be useful under compression, and concrete doesn't need help with compression. Rebar and fiber is added to concrete to help with tension.
human ingenuity never ceases to surprise me!
You gotta you figure out an electromagnetic source of power for the right type of conductive material that could be turned on with the flip of a switch which would cause all of it to grasp together to stiffen it on command I personally think graphite would be perfect for this application
carbon nanotubes, carbon fiber, graphene
I wish I knew people like you 2^^^
@@milogonzalez1334 Whenever you don't understand the problem just shout carbon nanotubes and that will solve it.
"For inspiration they turned to coffee" explains my entire engineering career.
This could have so many functions. I could imagine it being used in many medical situations, like when trying to move someone who may have a broken neck or spine. Also, in archialogical sites, this could quickly be deployed around the sight, and harden in shape, allowing for protection from the elements.
Indeed, very good for medical applications!
It could be used as a stretcher that can fold up and then become perfectly rigid!
I heard your podcast and it mentioned there was a YT video on this. Fascinating.
When any particle looses space between them they become solid, and air has maximum space in between them! That’s not new!! But the chain could be a good thig!
Yeah and they could have put the 5kg brick on top of the vacuumed coffee bag as well and it would withstand the force.
I just think they don't know where to go with the chain exactly
@@yoshimitsu8643 well if its anything to speculate, making it a "fabric" means it should be thinner than a bag of beans.
They didn't say it was new, they said it was the inspiration for the project and explained how it gave them the idea for creating complex interlocking geometric shapes. Where's yall reading comprehension at
1:15
thats not a coffe grains. thats instant coffe which is pressed powder.
Also it works at nearly any grains/powder
But doesn't just about any non liquid become rigid if you put enough vacuum in the seal?
Exactly xDd
I can't imagine the time or power it would take to vacuum pack a whole bridge
Yes, and a 22 rifle would drop it like a wet sock.
@@boomstick4054 or a kid running with scissors
Use thermal expansion /contraction. Heat it up (loose) cool it down. (Stiff) metals expand and contract alot and this is used to interference fit various components together, high tolerances required tho
Smart fabric?
Another brilliant solution without a problem
seems like granular jamming is becoming the newest tech buzz
*from flexible and floppy, to stiff and rigid* very nice
Interesting this reminds me of certain types of chain if you twist them then they can become ridgid intersting concept, perhaps it can be paired with numatic tube robots?
The placing of a wire or rope thru the mesh was my first thought of for an on demand tension system to go from a flexible unit into a rigid object.
Theres a lot of empty space in those. Make the pieces smaller and fill the gaps&spaces with non-neutonian fluid in a sealed package 🤷♂️
I think the end goal with this is to go nano eventually
A full haptic suit for VR what makes you feel every punch and hit from its straining on your body in that particular spot? That's amazing we are very close to player one
Use vibrational harmonics to change the shape to get the different combinations.
I remember there was a robot made by someone or some team over 10 years ago that figured this out. They put little balloons filled with coffee grounds at the end of a robot arm and sucked the air out to pick up any oddly shaped object they wanted it to and it worked very well IIRC.
For making fabric you can use nitinol which has property of going back to its original shape when heated, by making it with a certain shape and liking them together and when they are heated they will try to go back to original form but because of interlinking they can't do rather they'll get stiff. And the material is strong so it's better and can be used.
It's just an idea. Hope it helps
I wish i worked in a place that made stuff like this. I have so many idea's but no way to creat them. And I see so many different ways to use things that are already in existence. I'm too creative to be stuck in my own head.
Have you thought of using a 3d printer? You could get together with like minded people near you and experiment with different materials and shapes. There is nothing stopping you from starting your own company or your own "MAKE" or maker organization geared specifically for creating new technologies or improving existing industrial techniques. Don't limit yourself. You don't have to be someone's employee. You can do this own your own. The idea man is more important than the engineer with a doctorate. Creativity is what drives innovation, not the outdated institutions currently in place. Crowd 9thsourcing or open source technology can be just as good if not better and beneficial than the work of single corporations. I'm also a fellow creative. Let me know if you want a few hints or info on how or where to get started. I have many sources of unusual and unorthodox information at my disposal and depending on what your point of view, I may be able to help.
I wrote scifi short stories with a similar material, used to make uniforms. Under normal air pressure, it relaxed and "breathed", but if the pressure on the exterior dropped below a threshold, it closed the weave and interlocked into nearly airtight semi-rigid armor. Your uniform, with triggering force fields for helmet and gauntlets, becomes an emergency spacesuit.
Many things that were sci-fi yesterday become everyday today. Like the waterbed -- "invented" by Robert Heinlein as an acceleration couch in "Double Star", or a medical bed in "Stranger in a Strange Land".
Modern hybrid of medieval mail which can either open and be flexible or close up depending on which way the interlocking links hang
How about we make this out of 2 grades of steel, then forge it into a damascus blade?
As and engineer I often forget how the average person doesn't fully understand what they are seeing. It seems that most people don't understand the difference between the plastic of a vacuum packed object supporting a load vs a rigid structure within a vacuum packed back supporting a load. While watching this I was thinking magnetics as well. BMW came out with a "smart fluid" for shock absorbers that could change viscosity through electromagnetic properties. This has unlimited potential for so many applications.
With small enough particles and a control system, this could be really cool!
I remember when Nolan was doing research for Batman Begins, he came across body armors made of MR fluid and non-newtonian fluids. Basically, they would be loose and flexible under ordinary circumstances, but could become stiff and rigid if needed.
Non-newtonian armor that stiffens on impact or under pressure made it into news reports and documentaries and the like before running into some engineering issues, but I never heard anything more about the electrically controlled MR armor.
Maybe this could be a successor or replacement?
dude, I was searching for smartcape and came across this video. whole time i was like how "could batman use this". Like doing a cape shield or turning it into a ramp to deflect a motor cycle coming at him thing.
I see it could be the future of seatbelts, airbags.
The real problem is the material used to hold the vacuum. It is close to the stage of imagining how cool would it be if....
I like that she described the next steps to making this smart fabric work. magnetism could be the answer.
I know one other material that can go hard and soft on command.. well sometimes.
Yea sometimes that material has a mind of it's own. 😂🤣
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The solution would be to make a single chain of each and weave those chains (like threads).
To create stiffness in any one section or part you TWIST the thread (chain) and it stiffens in its current position.
The object/fabric would not change dimensions only orientation.
The twist would lock adjacent elements in the thread preventing further movement and allow it to be load bearing.
You could do a similar with with these pnumatic snake robots. They could weave themselves into a structure or around a human and become a scaffold.
YAAAAAA, the true beginning of real body armor!!!!!!
Really roundabout way to explain how a vacuum sealer works
They make an emergency bridge with this, then some kids run up and pop the vacuum seal plastic and down goes the bridge lol
Wow that's amazing! Simple concepts adding together to make fantastic possibilities 🙌🧠
This is a great idea...I see having something un the car that you can press a button on and it stiffens so you can use it to get out of a ditch or if your car gets stuck in sand or mud where you need to place something under the tire to get the vehicle out... this has a lot of practicle applications including storage imagine boxes you press a button and this fabric turns into a box you can use they would be easy to store and reuseable...I'd like to see what they ultimately decide this is going to be used for but I see it being utilized in almost any industry...
While reinventing the wheel can be fun... Might be better to get working on those bridges with what we have NOW instead of later.... Since they keep falling apart.
They literally said emergency bridges, as in not permanent. You were probably to busy commenting to notice
She got the idea from sealing weed. Not sealing coffee lmfao
Interesting. I look forward to developments going forward.
This definitely holds a lot of potential, maybe not immediately useful (like the invention of Laser found use much later)! Very innovative design none the less!
Are you stupid? This is basic as basic gets... compressing materials to a more dense material is as old as time.. some of yall are so stupid its sickening
Super cool! Thank you for sharing!
Awesome and cool. Great work and creation. Stay safe and healthy. God bless.
You should try thermal metals. Some metals expand when heated or shrink.
I grew up watching stuff like this to learn alil at a time she was so passionate
Fractal Tesselation finally being utilized as I imagined .
So the key is the vacuum bag, not the what she is designing.
The principle is that something that can flow like a liquid can behave like a solid in different circumstances. Here it's compression that allows that change from a pourable state to a rigid state. The vaccum is just a means to achieve it. You could be on a beach and allow sand to run between your fingers, but if you punch the sand instead it doesn't behave n the same way.
Even a chicken stiffens if you put it in a vacuum bag... let's make emergency bridges out of chicken!
As a HEMA fighter, I am curious about it's practicality. For instance. HEROS MAILE. It is flat ring riveted steel mail. It to some extant, is flexible but ridged. The rings of this chain maile would not be durable in HEMA environments unless made of Tungsten.
I am glad I get to see this, this is way better than the insulting comments of people who didn't give any contribution to the world.
There is something in this video that I can't stop thinking about
It is also a very attractive pattern.
Gloves from this would be great for my parrot to keep from biting me
If made out of metal. Apply a electro magnet to the male and then you could theoretically do the same thing on command turn it off and on on command. This can give you ways to do bridges or structures or even some kind of armor for immediate protection when needed
"Don't make a joke about a material that can stiffen on demand. Don't make a joke about a material that can stiffen on demand..."
I know of some other things that can change stiffness on command.
lol
Funny, but still a good example of the principles at play.
Yes like, my wallet and my upper lip when I watch sad puppy videos.
Bridges made of these would be nice to construct.
This is an idea that come out of a bong session.
It's an idea for sure.... i would of worked abit more into it before talking about shrink wrapping material to make a bridge...?
It needs to be a temperature change, heat expands, cold reduces...
“Next chain” I liked the pun
I wonder if instead of using a vacuum they could use ferofluid to push the links together.
I guess it's fabric but you can't make socks out of it.
Mithril!!! Bilbo Baggins!! Lord of the Rings! 🤩
I think they are going for a wearable form of oobleck , denser than lead on impact yet soft and form fitting during active wear. Sounds like super suit material if you think a bit. But yeah, a little bit more research will be needed, it could all start from vacuum sealed coffee and end with a super suit!
So, I thought someone had created a "karatand" (see "Stand on Zanzibar" by John Brunner) but instead it's like the textile version of a superconductor. It works but only under conditions that make it impractical for mundane applications.
What if they put this inside of an elastic-kevlar weave, and made the little pieces out of an extremely high-strength steel? Flexible body armor?
Very cool. Someone will find something very smart to do with it for sure.
I would try to use nitanol to make it change rigidity with the temperature
Very kool, could the material work on impact. So as a sudden force is hits the material it becomes solid
That coffee analogy is laughable. Anytjing that has the air removed will become more stiff because of exactly that.
The point of an analogy is to present the concept in a relatable manner which in this case you seem to think is obvious. That just means the analogy did its job lol
Its ideas like this that reminds me we as humans have so much potential. Gives me hope.
Finally kingsmen is coming to life
Try looking into electro magnets, they dont have moving parts, just pass small current and they will get charged and attracted to become stiff and turn of current to make them loose. You can also regulate current based on hw stiff u want it to be less current less stiff, more current more stiff.
What kind of people give videos like this a thumbs down? Don't understand.
Look through the comments, half the people didn't even know what the video was trying to explain
Could you create tension by rotating the rows in opposing directions?
Caltech ... what else would you expect? ;)
Well done Chiara Daraio & team!
Great idea until someone pokes a hole in your vacuum sealed fabric bridge and everybody falls to their death.
The same vacuum packing method is used on experimental grabbing implements.
Very interesting. Thank you for sharing!
lol. just use lentils in a vacuum-sealed bag
Lentils are still convex shapes. The whole point of this was to see if taking it a step further and using interlocked shapes (which hence have more points of contact) could significantly improve the stiffness of the structure
@@atrumluminarium it's amazing how confusing this video was apparently..