Forgot to mention, by far the best video I have seen on TH-cam for Synology DSM V7.0 for Zigbee integration for VMM and Docker. Now if only we could find a solid solutions that actually stays connected. Grrrr
Thank you :) What stick is that - usually Zigbee sticks don't have problem? Did you maybe try and install drivers for DSM 7? www.jadahl.com/ Not sure if that would help since VMM should use passthrough, but you never know...
Thank you very much! I'm runing HA as an VMM OVA Image inside a DS718+ (DSM 7) and the Conbee 2 works after I reselect the USB Stick in the VMM configuration.
Thank you for this. Run Home Assistant on DSM6 under docker with CC2531 Zigbee. Upgraded to DSM7, lost USB. Followed video. Everything working again. Now subscribed to your channel. Thanks again :-)
For anyone having unreliable Zigbee devices after migrating to Synology: don't plug in the Zigbee stick directly to your NAS, use a USB-A extension cable! This will reduce interference and greatly improve Zigbee reliability.
Great recommendation. That's applicable to any Zigbee (or similar) stick on any device - never plug directly, but use extension cable! One of the reasons SkyConnect comes with extension cord.
Thanks a lot for this video, I usually tend to rush on updates for DSM, but as I'm using docker zigbee2mqtt with CC2652RB, thanks to your video I'll hold on updating DSM as I don't want everything to break >
Thanks for making the video. I have HA and Deconz for my Conbee II stick, running in docker on my DS216+II. I saw some other video people mentioning before upgrading lets check if you have any USB devices in your NAS. Saw some people had problems with Conbee II, but already saw some workaround/fixes for the problems (as you mention in your video aswell). It wasn't clear to me, but your video helped me a lot and convinced me to upgrade to DSM 7.
Thanks for the comment! The biggest problem with all this is that there is no way to make roll-back. If it would be possible, it would also be much easier for everyone to test if it's working or not, and if needed roll-back to DSM 6.2
I have the same issue. I follow the video (and many others) everything looks great, Synology (DS`1019+) connects the device, then for no reason it drops the USB from within HA. You need to go back into VMM, unmount the stick, then remount the stick before it (sometimes) can be picked up in HA. Many people seem to be having this same issue. I cant determine if the issue resides within VMM (running 2 cores, 4GB RA and 32GB VHD) or HA or its the stick that is causing the issue. Everything is running the latest versions of the software, everything is OK for a period of time and there is no specific trigger that caused the stick to be dropped from HA. Anyone got any ideas?
This is Synology related issue. Unfortunately as far as I know there is still no permanent fix. Some day that it imporved when they connected mains powered USB hub between NAS and stick. I did t see any improvement with only device I have issues with - Google Coral. Sonoff 3.0 ZigBee stick, cc2531 and cc2652rb work for me without this issue
Great video! One question though: does your Zigbee stick work after you restart your Synology without physically plugging it off and in? You mentioned that after typing these commands you had to plug it off and plug it in again and it works only then. What about restart?
In DSM 7? TBH, I haven't restarted non of my Synology devices for a long long time. If you did insert sh script in control panel scripts, it should run every boot and make device available. And you shouldn't need to unplug, but this sometimes help.
@@BeardedTinker It's only like the 'extras' on most film DVD's - to make something good, make too much then cut, cut cut! Having offloaded FreePBX and TP-Link Omada onto my Synology, I had my eyes on my Z-Wave HA next - and I think I will at least give it a go :)
Thank you explaining the differences. I am using VM, what is your experience with UPS support? I have an APC as well, and that is the only reason for not updating to DSM 7.x, because this function is most important for me.
My main setup is still on DSM6. But UPS should work without an issue on DSM 7 - I think that that's the only official suppoted device in DSM 7 - at least APC UPS shold be a safe bet.
Hi Bearded 😊 thanks for your videos! I have always had a problem with my Synology DS920. I have been using Home Assistant on VM following your guide for 2 years, the Synology OS is 6.2.4 but my Conbee II has continuously been dismounted from the VM and Home Assistant can no longer communicate. It's a very common problem but I haven't found a solution, can you help me?
Yeah, USB.... Unfortunately, I haven't been able to figure out why this is happening. While I do not have issues with my slae.sh CC2652RP stick and it works great from day one, Google Coral gets disconnected randomly - from working 10 seconds to 30 minutes. Some say that using externa USB Hub withl power supply helped them, but for me and coral it didn't work. Did yu try any other Zigbee stick, maybe something newer.
One alternative (I haven't tested but waiting for one to arrive in next few days) is using network hubs - that completely avoids all of the USB issues with Synology.
device in /dev/ are only showing up if a proper kernel module or driver is available. But "lsusb" shows all devices that are present on the USB bus and that are recognized, no matter if they are supported or not.
Hello Mr. Tinker, thank you so much for your informative content. Do you know if I can set a static IP of my choice in the VMM, Home Assistant package install? I am moving my HA from an Unraid Server to Synology but many components are directed to a specific IP. I spent a little time looking for a solution but no luck. all the best.
Do it other way around - in VM in HA set static address. It should be easier to set it that way. If you had it set on Unraid and made backup, I think it should pull it as one of the settings.
“/sbin/modprobe usbserial” and “/sbin/modprobe ftdi_sio” work fine, but when I copy “/sbin/modprobe cdc-acm” I am getting this error: “modprobe: FATAL: Module cdc-acm not found.” any idea why? would like to add skyconnect to my homeassistant VM on my synology dsm 7 1821+ machine
Check this repository for drivers for your type of the machine: github.com/robertklep/dsm7-usb-serial-drivers But this also depends if you are suing VMM or Docker. For VMM you shouldn't need those drivers as there is USB pass through.
Запустил стик CC2652P на DSM 7.1-42661 update 4 (Synology 218+). Геморно, но можно. Нужно и поддержку включать и драйвера ставить. Итого zigbee2mqtt заработал. (Mariushosting , 2 june 2022) Спасибо бородач! Ты дал наводку!
Thanks for the great update! Interesting issue I ran into with VMM is that it makes my synology unacceptably noisy with disk sounds, compared to essentially nothing with docker. Might try again after upgrading my ram to see if there’s any difference, otherwise will be holding off upgrading until a more permanent USB solution exists
What drives are you using? I have DS415+ and DS920+ with 4 drives each, both running VM's. First one is using WD RED and second one Toshiba N300 ones. Only louder sound I hear is when there are disk checks going on - and that's every 2 weeks during the night. Besides that, not that much - they are about 6-7m from me right now.
Definitely makes a huge difference having more ram - disk utilisation having 4gb total and 2gb allocated to VM was sitting at 90-100%, now with 8gb total and 4gb allocated it's at 5% and heaps quieter!
@@michaelbreitkreutz6257 yes, RAM makes a big difference overall, but it's very important for VM. Apps on Synology share RAM, while VM has to have dedicated RAM. I've added 16GB (for total of 20) on my. It's way over supported (8GB is max according to specs) but this gives me a lot of room to play.
I upgraded before seeing your video, I have no USB devices, everything that matters to me works in Home Assistant (I’m running docker), but the log files gives some interesting info, that I will look into after my vacation.
It shouldn't have that much impact on normal services - but for ex. Plex is having upgrade issues, although it can be fixed, some SAMBA protocol changes, NT workgroups have been removed, TLS changes,... Nothing much really for normal home use..
Are you able to advise on using an Aeotec SmartThings hub with HAOS running on a Synology VM? I had assumed by plugging it into the USB on the front (usb3) I'd be able to communicate directly with it but it just keeps showing 'unmounted' in the VMM package (other usb devices such as my Samsung T7 show up without issue) . I'm running DSM 7, if that helps...
If I'm not mistaken, that's just charging/power port for SmartThings. Integration for it is same as for Samsung SmartThings hub and require cloud integration.
So now that the USB port is dead, what hub do you recommend for Z Wave? i have an old Schlage Connect Deadbolt(ZWAVE 2014), and I've love to hook it up to home assistant. I've never purchased a hub for it in the past.
You could still use USB port in Synology, unless it actually died. But problem is jadahl.com - site with drivers has been down last few months. And those drivers are needed for 6.2 and 7.0 to get stick working. Unless if you use Virtual Machine. Than, you should be able to get it running even without drivers on Synology. And, unfortunately, I've never tried any Z-Wave dongle so far, so really can't help you there.
Haven't tried yet to be honest. I can't find any of 2 sticks I had. Also, currently, everything I have Bluetooth, I use ESPHome and ESP32 board to read data from. Not much though - smart mosquito repellents and Xiaomi body scale.
I have Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 Dongle. I tryed the Docker version and got the Home Assistant server up and running however I wasnt able to enable the USB stick. Then I tryed the VM Version as you showed in your video. However the Zigbee stick is not listed as USB Device as you showin 11:13. I also tryed to connect the dongle to windows computer and it somehow started to install drivers so I guess the dongle works however I am not able to mount it to Synology DS220+ It is getting flustrating :-/
That is strange... In VM is should be visible no matter what. Check this newer video - but procedure for Docker as also the same. There are now drivers available for it and in this video I cover both Docker and VM with Sonoff. th-cam.com/video/iCE5Z43EKpk/w-d-xo.html
@@BeardedTinker I tried to perform steps according to your newer video, however I wasnt successful. I downloaded the correct drivers from Jadahal, and even re-loaded the driver to the kernel. I am quite in a dead end and dont know what to try else... Nonetheless I really like your videos!
Hallo and thank you for your helps. In order to reduce power consumption on Synology ds220+, do you think it's possible to install the virtual machine on a SSD connected externally via USB ? I use the NAS only for Photo storage and Home assistant Thank you
I'm not 100% sure that can be done. External SSDs are not part of Volumes in Synology. And it needs to be part of the volume to be able to use it in Virtual Machine Manager.
You need to add more RAM - officially it can handle 6GB total, but unofficially, you can have 8, 12 or 16GB ram total. Check this link for tested modules: nascompares.com/ram/ds218-ram-upgrade/
I followed your tutorial with usb connected in virtual machine and it went fine with home assistant but after a while I lose the usb in virtual machine on the synology. So I have to manually connect the usb (conbee II) again. I didn't have this with dsm 6. Do you know what's going on here?
This is very random issue and was also present in DSM 6.2 - I don't think that it's been fixed. For some unknown reason for some people sometimes USB gets disconnected. There are threads about this on Synology forum. It is very random - currently I have same problem with Google Coral. It can work for long time or lose connection every few hours.
Has anyone hit an issue recently with the Zooz Z-Wave stick? This video worked perfectly for me but I recently noticed my Z-Wave network had dropped off and traced it back to the ttyUSB missing. Have repeated the video steps again but no cigar (my ttyACM0 appears for my Zigbee stick still throughout). I'm suspecting an auto update to DSM, but not sure why the workaround no longer works. Any ideas?
Since I don't have Zooz (or any z-wave stick) - not sure. But check permissions. From what I've seen on some community posts, permissions have changed on files in DSM 7.1 and resetting permissions help. But that is only for devices that had manual drivers installed. Can't find the post, but it was on Home Assistant community forum - some of the Synology threads (and there are few).
I have two USB sticks. Both are working on ttyU but not together. It looks that the system is assigning one unit to ttyUo and one to ttyU1 but gives a port failure. Do you have a work around?
If you are using 2 USB sticks, problem can be restart of Synology (or any other Linux machine). It are using ttyUSB and not serial name, this is randomised at startup. That's why it's important to use serial name. Second problem is USB support on DSM 7. You will probably need to install drivers - try these if they match your hardware www.jadahl.com/ Overall you are better of using VM as it can access USB sticks directly and it's easier to assigne them to specific app.
@@BeardedTinker /sbin/modprobe usbserial Thanks indeed they are random Meanwhile I have added some lines as mentioned in your video with the following commands /sbin/modprobe usbserial /sbin/modprobe ftdi_sio /sbin/modprobe cdc-acm chmod 666 /dev/ttyUSB0 chmod 666 /dev/ttyUSB1 Please consider them if you are intending to make another video about this subject. Regards
Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus (TI CC2652P+CP2102N) not working in Docker. In VMM, the device is visible as ttyUSB, but in DSM and Docker, the device is missing.
Hi Dmitriy! For Docker, try installing drivers from here: www.jadahl.com/iperf-arp-scan/DSM_7.0/ Drivers have been created for DSM 7.0 and if you install it it should work.
Great Video, got USB working again! thanks. new issue: after updating deconz following appears: dev can't create file: /dev/ttyACM0 via mknod (missing permissions). downgraded the stick in windows, en restored created new container with "old version" ... nothing goes... can you help-out?
Not sure if I can help - only thing that is popping in my mind - did you run command za su/sudo? If there are any permission errors, this could fix it. Don't have deconz myself but I also didn't see this problem on any forums so far.
Same as with PC - try USB HUB. If you can, get one that has it's own power supply. Some users reported that this will make USB connection more stable. I tried with and without additional power and both worked.
Here the Zigbee USB-stick gets recognized on DSM 7 thanks to the commands. Unfortunately, my Zigbee2MQTT docker still seems to have no access or permissions to access the port: "Error: Error while opening serialport 'Error: Error: No such file or directory, cannot open /dev/ttyACM0'". When checking the user permissions via "test -w /dev/ttyACM0 && echo success || echo failure" it failed. Manually adding user permissions had no effect on Docker. Anyone else some suggestions on giving Docker USB access, or should we hope for drivers?
If you can just confirm that you see device ttyACM0 when you ls ttyA* in /dev folder? If you do, then you should have no issue of adding it to Docker container with command --device=/dev/ttyACM0 Other option is to map it: --device=/dev/ttyACM0:/dev/ttyACM0
@@BeardedTinker Thanks for your very clear instructions. However, after running your commands I cannot find my CC2652P (although it worked with an older Zigbee stick). Can you give me a clue how to find the driver that I need for the CC2652P?
This new update does sometimes break things - one thing noted is it can mess up the privileges too, but if it's working to you, it's not the case for you!
@@CliffordFullerton Can you describe more precisely how you did it? For me it worked on 7.1-42661 Update 3 but I can't start Conbee 2 on updating to DSM 7.1-42661 UPDATE 4.
@@tomasz3217 First of all just disconnect and reconnect the USB stick, just to see if this fixes it. I myself had to go back to the video from 31.03.2021
Thank you, works as a charm! Is this workaround still working in Docker with the latest update DSM 7.0.1-42218 released on October 21 ? (CC2531 Zigbee USB on DS218+)
It should work. If I'm not mistaken, my machine is running updated version. There is also now 3rd party drivers for ZigBee sticks, if you need them in DSM, not just Virtual Machine.
Thank you very much, unfortunately it's beyond my skill to install custom drivers for a specific hardware. However probably this is the long time solution. I have a feeling that this workaround will stop working after some future update
@@Wh0CaresAnyway it shouldn't be that different from what I did in video here - th-cam.com/video/lNCM8CXXLNw/w-d-xo.html it is in same repository as this one. www.jadahl.com/
Are you connecting printer to Synology with USB cable? Never done ot tried that. I have dedicated RPi for Ender 3 and Octoprint was there. DSM7 has very limited drivers and support for USB connection and I don't think that MCU in printer is on supported list of devices even from ones that were developed by community.
I'm using a CC2531 within the VMM, but I will hold off on upgrading for another half year AT THE VERY LEAST. Synology' trustworthiness took quite a hit this year when they started pulling working BTRFS on unsupported machines as well. USB is still formally unsupported and who knows what they will do. As things are right now everything is working just fine within my VMM and docker containers so I will go with the old "Don't fix it if it ain't broke" adage.
That's smart choice - although it should work with CC2531 without a problem. But I wouldn't consider this upgrade that critical yet. My recording setup is upgraded, but same as you, main setup will wait a bit.
@@BeardedTinker really? In VMM (DSM 6.3 & 6.4), I can't find the way to access bluetooth. If you have any idea, please teach me. Thank you very much! By the way, I really enjoy in your films :)
@@tericking haven't played with Bluetooth in a while on Synology, but biggest issue when I did was device itself. A lot of devices wouldn't work on Linux machine no matter what. I think I bought 3 devices with only last one ever working our of Windows environment. For VM to work, VM OS image has to have Bluetooth support. And AFAIK, it does. But you will not be able to see this devices if you SSH in your Synology.
I updated my ds216+II (with extra memory) and cannot install VMM :( hopefully they will support it soon or that somebody makes an alternative package to load
What file system you have? ext or btrfs? Btrfs is needed for VMM. If you don't see VMM in list of packages, you can install it by hand. Just find package for processor type you have and install manually. Try this one for example - for 916+ global.download.synology.com/download/Package/spk/Virtualization/2.5.3-9760/Virtualization-x86_64-2.5.3-9760.spk?model=DS916%2B&bays=4&dsm_version=6.2.4&build_number=25556&_ga=2.240569729.324499140.1627983851-1412794709.1607544463
I've got the same device as you do and I installed VMM without any issues. It's running pretty well since last year in DSM 6.2. I've got 8 GB of RAM, but also had 4GB before and still could have the VMM working. Perhaps you've got not enough RAM like 2GB? In my case all I had to do was to download the package from synology website and install it manually by file upload. That's it.
Have the DS216+II aswell with RAM module swap (1 GB to 8GB) and running SHR with BTRFS and VMM is running fine on 6.2. (not running any VMM anymore, but in the past it worked flawlessly). So do you have BTRFS enabled?
CC2652RB works out of box for VMM installation, but if you need Docker support (local DSM7 support), there are now new USB drivers for that too: www.jadahl.com/iperf-arp-scan/DSM_7.0/
@@BeardedTinker I updated my ds1618+ last night to dsm 7. i use z2m in docker. For now nothing works. i tried to install the new drivers but nothing, z2m is rebooting nonstop... For now i think about move the z2m installation to a raspberry...
@@BeardedTinker The error ist a rebooting docker z2m image. I also have no tty usb device anymore. Is the driver file for the cc2652rb -> cp210x.ko? I get the error "insmod: ERROR: could not insert module /lib/modules/cp210x.ko: Unknown symbol in module".
All depends if it's in Docker or VM - VM should work, for Docker, that's different story. You could ask here to see if anyone tried and got it working: community.home-assistant.io/t/zwave-on-synology-dsm-7/308583/64
Yes, but you missed also other part of the question - are you talking about Docker or VMM? In both cases, again, yes, but Docker requires drivers and VMM doesn't. And - version 7.0 is not same as 7.1 - some had issues with 7.1 while others didn't.
What device are you using? Is Docker still installed after the upgrade? If you sideloaded Docker (your model doesn't officially support it), you need to download version for DSM 7 for similar model and install it manually.
216 has Marvel Armada. ARM based processor. I've seen some guides on installing Docker, but officially, this processor doesn't support it. 216+ and 216+II support it.
I have the Sonoff zigbee 3.0 usb dongle. Before I had the cc2531 and this was working well. I have installed the cp210x.ko driver but still it is not working. When I use ls ttyA* get the error ls: cannot access 'dev/ttyA*': No such file or directory When I do the same for the cc2531 everthing is ok. What am I doing wrong
Just received mine yesterday and plugged it in few minutes ago. It is not automatically detected, but I used drivers from here: www.jadahl.com/iperf-arp-scan/DSM_7.0/ When testing with lsusb command in terminal, I can see the device there too. It's 100% working in VMM, for Docker, I see that it's visible as ttyUSB, not ttyACM0 - so still have to test it but not sure when I'll be able to do that.
@@BeardedTinker I had it working at ttyUSB1. I had to restart my synology and now it wont work anymore. receiving this error Error: Failed to connect to the adapter (Error: SRSP - SYS - ping after 6000ms) Searched for it and there are quit a lot of people who has this same error. But there is no solution for it. Tryed to reflash it but that doesnt work also.
@Nico Platte did you try to reload drivers/script - if you don't have it set to automatic? Are you using Docker or VMM? For Docker, you need to check that everything according to jadahl script is loaded. In VMM - check if USB is again assigned or not.
@@BeardedTinker Yes I have set it to automatic. Now the zigbee stick is showing again but I cannot pair any devices to it anymore. Flashed it again a few times without succes.I'm using it in a docker container because VM is not working for me. Been busy with it the whole day but dit not find a solution for it. The pairing issue is a commen problem with this device but did not find a solution. I have plugged in my cc2531 and use this one again until I find a solution
What FW did you flash? Did you try this one - github.com/JelmerT/cc2538-bsl/pull/114 ? It's very specific pull that doesn't require you to hold buttons while flashing it.
Great video as always my friend, very detailed and very informative!
Thanks million 😊 much appreciated!
Forgot to mention, by far the best video I have seen on TH-cam for Synology DSM V7.0 for Zigbee integration for VMM and Docker. Now if only we could find a solid solutions that actually stays connected. Grrrr
Thank you :)
What stick is that - usually Zigbee sticks don't have problem? Did you maybe try and install drivers for DSM 7? www.jadahl.com/ Not sure if that would help since VMM should use passthrough, but you never know...
Thank you very much! I'm runing HA as an VMM OVA Image inside a DS718+ (DSM 7) and the Conbee 2 works after I reselect the USB Stick in the VMM configuration.
Thank you for this. Run Home Assistant on DSM6 under docker with CC2531 Zigbee. Upgraded to DSM7, lost USB. Followed video. Everything working again. Now subscribed to your channel. Thanks again :-)
Thank you Colin! Glad it helped and thanks for subscribing, really means a lot!! 😃
Thanks for the great workaround :), my Z-WAVE Stick is working again
Great to hear!
For anyone having unreliable Zigbee devices after migrating to Synology: don't plug in the Zigbee stick directly to your NAS, use a USB-A extension cable! This will reduce interference and greatly improve Zigbee reliability.
Great recommendation.
That's applicable to any Zigbee (or similar) stick on any device - never plug directly, but use extension cable! One of the reasons SkyConnect comes with extension cord.
Thanks a lot for this video, I usually tend to rush on updates for DSM, but as I'm using docker zigbee2mqtt with CC2652RB, thanks to your video I'll hold on updating DSM as I don't want everything to break >
I got burned a few times before, so I tend to wait now a bit longer 😂
Thanks for making the video.
I have HA and Deconz for my Conbee II stick, running in docker on my DS216+II. I saw some other video people mentioning before upgrading lets check if you have any USB devices in your NAS.
Saw some people had problems with Conbee II, but already saw some workaround/fixes for the problems (as you mention in your video aswell). It wasn't clear to me, but your video helped me a lot and convinced me to upgrade to DSM 7.
Thanks for the comment! The biggest problem with all this is that there is no way to make roll-back. If it would be possible, it would also be much easier for everyone to test if it's working or not, and if needed roll-back to DSM 6.2
I have the same issue. I follow the video (and many others) everything looks great, Synology (DS`1019+) connects the device, then for no reason it drops the USB from within HA. You need to go back into VMM, unmount the stick, then remount the stick before it (sometimes) can be picked up in HA. Many people seem to be having this same issue. I cant determine if the issue resides within VMM (running 2 cores, 4GB RA and 32GB VHD) or HA or its the stick that is causing the issue. Everything is running the latest versions of the software, everything is OK for a period of time and there is no specific trigger that caused the stick to be dropped from HA. Anyone got any ideas?
This is Synology related issue. Unfortunately as far as I know there is still no permanent fix. Some day that it imporved when they connected mains powered USB hub between NAS and stick. I did t see any improvement with only device I have issues with - Google Coral.
Sonoff 3.0 ZigBee stick, cc2531 and cc2652rb work for me without this issue
Great video! One question though: does your Zigbee stick work after you restart your Synology without physically plugging it off and in? You mentioned that after typing these commands you had to plug it off and plug it in again and it works only then. What about restart?
In DSM 7? TBH, I haven't restarted non of my Synology devices for a long long time. If you did insert sh script in control panel scripts, it should run every boot and make device available.
And you shouldn't need to unplug, but this sometimes help.
Slightly comprehensive ;)
Answered ALL my questions, thanks so much :)
You should see my videos before I cut them 🤦🏼♂️I really talk too much. Thanks, glad if it helped 🙂
@@BeardedTinker It's only like the 'extras' on most film DVD's - to make something good, make too much then cut, cut cut! Having offloaded FreePBX and TP-Link Omada onto my Synology, I had my eyes on my Z-Wave HA next - and I think I will at least give it a go :)
You definitely should. BTW - ordered today Google Coral USB stick... Fast video processing on Synology is next (if it ends up working).
Thank you explaining the differences. I am using VM, what is your experience with UPS support? I have an APC as well, and that is the only reason for not updating to DSM 7.x, because this function is most important for me.
My main setup is still on DSM6. But UPS should work without an issue on DSM 7 - I think that that's the only official suppoted device in DSM 7 - at least APC UPS shold be a safe bet.
Thank you very much! I have HA installed in Docker inside a DS720+ (DSM7) and the CC2531 has been working (now...).
That's great!!! Glad it's working.
Hi Bearded 😊 thanks for your videos! I have always had a problem with my Synology DS920. I have been using Home Assistant on VM following your guide for 2 years, the Synology OS is 6.2.4 but my Conbee II has continuously been dismounted from the VM and Home Assistant can no longer communicate. It's a very common problem but I haven't found a solution, can you help me?
Yeah, USB.... Unfortunately, I haven't been able to figure out why this is happening. While I do not have issues with my slae.sh CC2652RP stick and it works great from day one, Google Coral gets disconnected randomly - from working 10 seconds to 30 minutes.
Some say that using externa USB Hub withl power supply helped them, but for me and coral it didn't work. Did yu try any other Zigbee stick, maybe something newer.
@@BeardedTinker Thanks for your reply! My only hope is to try a new zigbee hub 😔
One alternative (I haven't tested but waiting for one to arrive in next few days) is using network hubs - that completely avoids all of the USB issues with Synology.
device in /dev/ are only showing up if a proper kernel module or driver is available. But "lsusb" shows all devices that are present on the USB bus and that are recognized, no matter if they are supported or not.
Hello Mr. Tinker, thank you so much for your informative content. Do you know if I can set a static IP of my choice in the VMM, Home Assistant package install? I am moving my HA from an Unraid Server to Synology but many components are directed to a specific IP. I spent a little time looking for a solution but no luck. all the best.
Do it other way around - in VM in HA set static address. It should be easier to set it that way.
If you had it set on Unraid and made backup, I think it should pull it as one of the settings.
“/sbin/modprobe usbserial” and “/sbin/modprobe ftdi_sio” work fine, but when I copy “/sbin/modprobe cdc-acm” I am getting this error: “modprobe: FATAL: Module cdc-acm not found.” any idea why? would like to add skyconnect to my homeassistant VM on my synology dsm 7 1821+ machine
Check this repository for drivers for your type of the machine: github.com/robertklep/dsm7-usb-serial-drivers
But this also depends if you are suing VMM or Docker. For VMM you shouldn't need those drivers as there is USB pass through.
Запустил стик CC2652P на DSM 7.1-42661 update 4 (Synology 218+). Геморно, но можно. Нужно и поддержку включать и драйвера ставить. Итого zigbee2mqtt заработал. (Mariushosting , 2 june 2022) Спасибо бородач! Ты дал наводку!
Thanks for the great update! Interesting issue I ran into with VMM is that it makes my synology unacceptably noisy with disk sounds, compared to essentially nothing with docker. Might try again after upgrading my ram to see if there’s any difference, otherwise will be holding off upgrading until a more permanent USB solution exists
What drives are you using? I have DS415+ and DS920+ with 4 drives each, both running VM's.
First one is using WD RED and second one Toshiba N300 ones. Only louder sound I hear is when there are disk checks going on - and that's every 2 weeks during the night. Besides that, not that much - they are about 6-7m from me right now.
@@BeardedTinker DS918+ with 4x12tb WD whites. It's not the quietest setup, though I hardly notice it except for the disk checks otherwise
Definitely makes a huge difference having more ram - disk utilisation having 4gb total and 2gb allocated to VM was sitting at 90-100%, now with 8gb total and 4gb allocated it's at 5% and heaps quieter!
@@michaelbreitkreutz6257 yes, RAM makes a big difference overall, but it's very important for VM. Apps on Synology share RAM, while VM has to have dedicated RAM.
I've added 16GB (for total of 20) on my. It's way over supported (8GB is max according to specs) but this gives me a lot of room to play.
I upgraded before seeing your video, I have no USB devices, everything that matters to me works in Home Assistant (I’m running docker), but the log files gives some interesting info, that I will look into after my vacation.
It shouldn't have that much impact on normal services - but for ex. Plex is having upgrade issues, although it can be fixed, some SAMBA protocol changes, NT workgroups have been removed, TLS changes,... Nothing much really for normal home use..
Are you able to advise on using an Aeotec SmartThings hub with HAOS running on a Synology VM? I had assumed by plugging it into the USB on the front (usb3) I'd be able to communicate directly with it but it just keeps showing 'unmounted' in the VMM package (other usb devices such as my Samsung T7 show up without issue) . I'm running DSM 7, if that helps...
If I'm not mistaken, that's just charging/power port for SmartThings.
Integration for it is same as for Samsung SmartThings hub and require cloud integration.
Thanks for this video, it really clarifies a lot of things :-)
Glad it helps. One of the updates since video was released is that there are now cc2652 and similar drivers available for testing -www.jadahl.com/
So now that the USB port is dead, what hub do you recommend for Z Wave? i have an old Schlage Connect Deadbolt(ZWAVE 2014), and I've love to hook it up to home assistant. I've never purchased a hub for it in the past.
You could still use USB port in Synology, unless it actually died. But problem is jadahl.com - site with drivers has been down last few months. And those drivers are needed for 6.2 and 7.0 to get stick working. Unless if you use Virtual Machine. Than, you should be able to get it running even without drivers on Synology.
And, unfortunately, I've never tried any Z-Wave dongle so far, so really can't help you there.
Site is back up so drivers are available: www.jadahl.com/iperf-arp-scan/DSM_7.0/
@@BeardedTinker it's gone again
Great guide and very helpful! Do you have any solution for Bluetooth usb dongle as well? Half my sensors for HA are Bluetooth...
Haven't tried yet to be honest. I can't find any of 2 sticks I had.
Also, currently, everything I have Bluetooth, I use ESPHome and ESP32 board to read data from.
Not much though - smart mosquito repellents and Xiaomi body scale.
@@BeardedTinker haven't tinkered with anything ESP related, but I might give it a try, thanks!
I have Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 Dongle. I tryed the Docker version and got the Home Assistant server up and running however I wasnt able to enable the USB stick. Then I tryed the VM Version as you showed in your video. However the Zigbee stick is not listed as USB Device as you showin 11:13. I also tryed to connect the dongle to windows computer and it somehow started to install drivers so I guess the dongle works however I am not able to mount it to Synology DS220+ It is getting flustrating :-/
That is strange... In VM is should be visible no matter what. Check this newer video - but procedure for Docker as also the same. There are now drivers available for it and in this video I cover both Docker and VM with Sonoff. th-cam.com/video/iCE5Z43EKpk/w-d-xo.html
@@BeardedTinker I tried to perform steps according to your newer video, however I wasnt successful. I downloaded the correct drivers from Jadahal, and even re-loaded the driver to the kernel. I am quite in a dead end and dont know what to try else... Nonetheless I really like your videos!
Hallo and thank you for your helps.
In order to reduce power consumption on Synology ds220+, do you think it's possible to install the virtual machine on a SSD connected externally via USB ?
I use the NAS only for Photo storage and Home assistant
Thank you
I'm not 100% sure that can be done. External SSDs are not part of Volumes in Synology. And it needs to be part of the volume to be able to use it in Virtual Machine Manager.
In my DS218+ I can install VM there, but I can not install home assistant due to an error less RAM 2GB. How I can solve this problem?
You need to add more RAM - officially it can handle 6GB total, but unofficially, you can have 8, 12 or 16GB ram total. Check this link for tested modules: nascompares.com/ram/ds218-ram-upgrade/
I followed your tutorial with usb connected in virtual machine and it went fine with home assistant but after a while I lose the usb in virtual machine on the synology. So I have to manually connect the usb (conbee II) again. I didn't have this with dsm 6. Do you know what's going on here?
This is very random issue and was also present in DSM 6.2 - I don't think that it's been fixed. For some unknown reason for some people sometimes USB gets disconnected.
There are threads about this on Synology forum.
It is very random - currently I have same problem with Google Coral. It can work for long time or lose connection every few hours.
To add on this - check this thread here. Maybe this will help you?
community.home-assistant.io/t/z-stick-gen5-disappears-from-vm-on-dsm7/333196/8
I can find my USB device on the terminal. Is there a way to give my docker container access to it through the docker interface?
If it's already created, no.
You would need to recreate it with this mapping.
Super it works for me on dsm 7 and docker i have my jeedom again Many tks`
Nice, that's great! Happy to hear it's working!
Has anyone hit an issue recently with the Zooz Z-Wave stick? This video worked perfectly for me but I recently noticed my Z-Wave network had dropped off and traced it back to the ttyUSB missing. Have repeated the video steps again but no cigar (my ttyACM0 appears for my Zigbee stick still throughout). I'm suspecting an auto update to DSM, but not sure why the workaround no longer works. Any ideas?
Since I don't have Zooz (or any z-wave stick) - not sure. But check permissions. From what I've seen on some community posts, permissions have changed on files in DSM 7.1 and resetting permissions help. But that is only for devices that had manual drivers installed.
Can't find the post, but it was on Home Assistant community forum - some of the Synology threads (and there are few).
Hi Ross - any luck w/ the Zooz stick? Trying to work through it myself and not having much luck...any tips would be much appreciated :)
Let me know how you go and I can try and add further. Just wanting to make sure the message makes it out.
Previous messages with links got blocked so can't help sorry!
@@rossco5551 that's YT - can't unblock that
I have two USB sticks. Both are working on ttyU but not together. It looks that the system is assigning one unit to ttyUo and one to ttyU1 but gives a port failure. Do you have a work around?
If you are using 2 USB sticks, problem can be restart of Synology (or any other Linux machine). It are using ttyUSB and not serial name, this is randomised at startup. That's why it's important to use serial name.
Second problem is USB support on DSM 7. You will probably need to install drivers - try these if they match your hardware www.jadahl.com/
Overall you are better of using VM as it can access USB sticks directly and it's easier to assigne them to specific app.
@@BeardedTinker /sbin/modprobe usbserial
Thanks indeed they are random
Meanwhile I have added some lines as mentioned in your video with the following commands
/sbin/modprobe usbserial
/sbin/modprobe ftdi_sio
/sbin/modprobe cdc-acm
chmod 666 /dev/ttyUSB0
chmod 666 /dev/ttyUSB1
Please consider them if you are intending to make another video about this subject.
Regards
@BeardedTinker new video would be nice, thanks :)
Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus (TI CC2652P+CP2102N) not working in Docker. In VMM, the device is visible as ttyUSB, but in DSM and Docker, the device is missing.
Hi Dmitriy! For Docker, try installing drivers from here:
www.jadahl.com/iperf-arp-scan/DSM_7.0/
Drivers have been created for DSM 7.0 and if you install it it should work.
@@BeardedTinker Thank you! All fine.
Great Video, got USB working again! thanks.
new issue: after updating deconz following appears: dev can't create file: /dev/ttyACM0 via mknod (missing permissions).
downgraded the stick in windows, en restored created new container with "old version" ... nothing goes...
can you help-out?
Not sure if I can help - only thing that is popping in my mind - did you run command za su/sudo? If there are any permission errors, this could fix it.
Don't have deconz myself but I also didn't see this problem on any forums so far.
I have 3 usb devices but only 2 usb ports on the synology whats the best approach for solving this?
Same as with PC - try USB HUB. If you can, get one that has it's own power supply. Some users reported that this will make USB connection more stable. I tried with and without additional power and both worked.
@@BeardedTinker Thanks i tried that but do i need to reboot the Synaology to take affect and should it usb3 or Usb 2 enough?
No, you don't need to reboot. But there is a big difference between DSM 6 and 7 and USB support! So that may also be the issue for you
Here the Zigbee USB-stick gets recognized on DSM 7 thanks to the commands. Unfortunately, my Zigbee2MQTT docker still seems to have no access or permissions to access the port: "Error: Error while opening serialport 'Error: Error: No such file or directory, cannot open /dev/ttyACM0'".
When checking the user permissions via "test -w /dev/ttyACM0 && echo success || echo failure" it failed. Manually adding user permissions had no effect on Docker. Anyone else some suggestions on giving Docker USB access, or should we hope for drivers?
If you can just confirm that you see device ttyACM0 when you ls ttyA* in /dev folder?
If you do, then you should have no issue of adding it to Docker container with command --device=/dev/ttyACM0
Other option is to map it:
--device=/dev/ttyACM0:/dev/ttyACM0
@@BeardedTinker It works! Thank you for the help and detailed videos you make 🙌
you saved me. Thank you sooooooo much
Glad you found it useful James!!!
how do I uninstall homeassistant completely on Synology docker?
You need to remove docker container which can be done via Synology DSM and than just delete files in whatever folder you've opted to use.
Can cc2652p works now? I don't want to use VMM of homeassistant . I just want to use docker of homeassistant . I am so sad
It should work if you install appropriate drivers. Check here www.jadahl.com/
@@BeardedTinker Thank you so much！ I have solved this problem，CC2652P works fine now！
@@BeardedTinker Thanks for your very clear instructions. However, after running your commands I cannot find my CC2652P (although it worked with an older Zigbee stick). Can you give me a clue how to find the driver that I need for the CC2652P?
@@MichielDhont drivers for DSM 7 have been released some time ago and are available here: www.jadahl.com/
Darn it. Just updated to DSM 7.1-42661 and my Zigbee USB device is no longer visible or retrievable.
Had to reinstall drivers from scratch after 7.1 update, but everything is up and running again now.
This new update does sometimes break things - one thing noted is it can mess up the privileges too, but if it's working to you, it's not the case for you!
@@CliffordFullerton Can you describe more precisely how you did it? For me it worked on 7.1-42661 Update 3 but I can't start Conbee 2 on updating to DSM 7.1-42661 UPDATE 4.
@@tomasz3217 First of all just disconnect and reconnect the USB stick, just to see if this fixes it. I myself had to go back to the video from 31.03.2021
Thank you, works as a charm!
Is this workaround still working in Docker with the latest update DSM 7.0.1-42218 released on October 21 ? (CC2531 Zigbee USB on DS218+)
It should work. If I'm not mistaken, my machine is running updated version. There is also now 3rd party drivers for ZigBee sticks, if you need them in DSM, not just Virtual Machine.
Thank you very much, unfortunately it's beyond my skill to install custom drivers for a specific hardware. However probably this is the long time solution. I have a feeling that this workaround will stop working after some future update
@@Wh0CaresAnyway it shouldn't be that different from what I did in video here - th-cam.com/video/lNCM8CXXLNw/w-d-xo.html it is in same repository as this one. www.jadahl.com/
Tried for my ender 3 v2 but doesnt work... im trying to connect to octoprint on my ds215j
Are you connecting printer to Synology with USB cable? Never done ot tried that. I have dedicated RPi for Ender 3 and Octoprint was there. DSM7 has very limited drivers and support for USB connection and I don't think that MCU in printer is on supported list of devices even from ones that were developed by community.
I'm using a CC2531 within the VMM, but I will hold off on upgrading for another half year AT THE VERY LEAST. Synology' trustworthiness took quite a hit this year when they started pulling working BTRFS on unsupported machines as well. USB is still formally unsupported and who knows what they will do. As things are right now everything is working just fine within my VMM and docker containers so I will go with the old "Don't fix it if it ain't broke" adage.
That's smart choice - although it should work with CC2531 without a problem. But I wouldn't consider this upgrade that critical yet.
My recording setup is upgraded, but same as you, main setup will wait a bit.
Does this also work with Docker?
I've covered that part, but there are also drivers for som USB devices now available, depending what you're using.
Is this possible to access bluetooth in VMM?
I don't have Bluetooth stick to test it, but it should work as pass-through device.
@@BeardedTinker really? In VMM (DSM 6.3 & 6.4), I can't find the way to access bluetooth.
If you have any idea, please teach me. Thank you very much!
By the way, I really enjoy in your films :)
@@tericking haven't played with Bluetooth in a while on Synology, but biggest issue when I did was device itself. A lot of devices wouldn't work on Linux machine no matter what. I think I bought 3 devices with only last one ever working our of Windows environment.
For VM to work, VM OS image has to have Bluetooth support. And AFAIK, it does. But you will not be able to see this devices if you SSH in your Synology.
I updated my ds216+II (with extra memory) and cannot install VMM :(
hopefully they will support it soon or that somebody makes an alternative package to load
What file system you have? ext or btrfs? Btrfs is needed for VMM.
If you don't see VMM in list of packages, you can install it by hand. Just find package for processor type you have and install manually. Try this one for example - for 916+
global.download.synology.com/download/Package/spk/Virtualization/2.5.3-9760/Virtualization-x86_64-2.5.3-9760.spk?model=DS916%2B&bays=4&dsm_version=6.2.4&build_number=25556&_ga=2.240569729.324499140.1627983851-1412794709.1607544463
I've got the same device as you do and I installed VMM without any issues. It's running pretty well since last year in DSM 6.2. I've got 8 GB of RAM, but also had 4GB before and still could have the VMM working.
Perhaps you've got not enough RAM like 2GB? In my case all I had to do was to download the package from synology website and install it manually by file upload. That's it.
Have the DS216+II aswell with RAM module swap (1 GB to 8GB) and running SHR with BTRFS and VMM is running fine on 6.2. (not running any VMM anymore, but in the past it worked flawlessly). So do you have BTRFS enabled?
Any news for the CC2652RB in DSM7?
CC2652RB works out of box for VMM installation, but if you need Docker support (local DSM7 support), there are now new USB drivers for that too: www.jadahl.com/iperf-arp-scan/DSM_7.0/
@@BeardedTinker I updated my ds1618+ last night to dsm 7. i use z2m in docker. For now nothing works. i tried to install the new drivers but nothing, z2m is rebooting nonstop... For now i think about move the z2m installation to a raspberry...
Did you check path/name of the port - if it was changed in upgrade.
What's the error you're getting?
@@BeardedTinker The error ist a rebooting docker z2m image. I also have no tty usb device anymore. Is the driver file for the cc2652rb -> cp210x.ko? I get the error "insmod: ERROR: could not insert module /lib/modules/cp210x.ko: Unknown symbol in module".
Yes, cp210x.ko is the driver
Did you install them after download with:
sudo insmod /lib/modules/usbserial.ko
sudo insmod /lib/modules/cp210x.ko
thanks good video. :-)
Glad you liked it Robin!!! Thank you!
Anyone tried the Aeon Zwave stick?
All depends if it's in Docker or VM - VM should work, for Docker, that's different story.
You could ask here to see if anyone tried and got it working:
community.home-assistant.io/t/zwave-on-synology-dsm-7/308583/64
Can some confirm if CC2652p works in DSM 7?
Yes, but you missed also other part of the question - are you talking about Docker or VMM?
In both cases, again, yes, but Docker requires drivers and VMM doesn't.
And - version 7.0 is not same as 7.1 - some had issues with 7.1 while others didn't.
@@BeardedTinker I'm using the latest DSM version of v7 and didnt managed to install the derivers for the CC2652p
with Docker...
@@TzacHiGuetta you will need drivers then.
@@BeardedTinker where can I find the drivers?
I upgraded my synology to 7.0 and I can't find docker, can anyone please help me?
What device are you using? Is Docker still installed after the upgrade? If you sideloaded Docker (your model doesn't officially support it), you need to download version for DSM 7 for similar model and install it manually.
@@BeardedTinker Its ds216 and I didn't install It before I upgrade It. Hoy can I install It manually? Thank you so much
Is it 216, 216play 216+?
@@BeardedTinker It is 216
216 has Marvel Armada. ARM based processor. I've seen some guides on installing Docker, but officially, this processor doesn't support it. 216+ and 216+II support it.
I have the Sonoff zigbee 3.0 usb dongle. Before I had the cc2531 and this was working well.
I have installed the cp210x.ko driver but still it is not working. When I use ls ttyA* get the error ls: cannot access 'dev/ttyA*': No such file or directory
When I do the same for the cc2531 everthing is ok. What am I doing wrong
Just received mine yesterday and plugged it in few minutes ago.
It is not automatically detected, but I used drivers from here: www.jadahl.com/iperf-arp-scan/DSM_7.0/
When testing with lsusb command in terminal, I can see the device there too.
It's 100% working in VMM, for Docker, I see that it's visible as ttyUSB, not ttyACM0 - so still have to test it but not sure when I'll be able to do that.
@@BeardedTinker
I had it working at ttyUSB1. I had to restart my synology and now it wont work anymore. receiving this error
Error: Failed to connect to the adapter (Error: SRSP - SYS - ping after 6000ms)
Searched for it and there are quit a lot of people who has this same error. But there is no solution for it. Tryed to reflash it but that doesnt work also.
@Nico Platte did you try to reload drivers/script - if you don't have it set to automatic?
Are you using Docker or VMM? For Docker, you need to check that everything according to jadahl script is loaded. In VMM - check if USB is again assigned or not.
@@BeardedTinker
Yes I have set it to automatic. Now the zigbee stick is showing again but I cannot pair any devices to it anymore. Flashed it again a few times without succes.I'm using it in a docker container because VM is not working for me.
Been busy with it the whole day but dit not find a solution for it. The pairing issue is a commen problem with this device but did not find a solution. I have plugged in my cc2531 and use this one again until I find a solution
What FW did you flash? Did you try this one - github.com/JelmerT/cc2538-bsl/pull/114 ?
It's very specific pull that doesn't require you to hold buttons while flashing it.