I setup HA on my QNAP but the installation process wasn't much different than what you did here. Having the HA virtual machine file available for download was great. I was only looking for a way to have more than just a couple of security cameras without having to pay the licence fee to Synology ( which I also have ) or QNAP. HA worked really well. The bonus is that HA has a smart phone app. And, HA has Tailscale available as an add on as well. With HA and Tailscale on my phone, I can view a live feed from my cameras from anywhere in the world and at zero cost. Brilliant. Thanks as always Frank.
Thanks for this. I have been thinking recently of going all-in with Home Assistant and this is exactly the kind of video I needed. Please keep making great content 👍🏻
As always, great video Frank. Straight forward, to the point without the fluff! Enjoyed watching and thanks for sharing. I may just have to dabble with Home Assistant. Have a great day!
Awesome video, thank for creating. Would you consider doing a follow up focusing on how to incorporate zigbee into HA hosted on synology NAS? Thank you
Hi, thank you for your tutorials, I like them very much. I followed this instructions an with configuring network for Virtual Machine Manager I broke my macvlan for pihole. This is configured as a container on my Synology followed your instructions. I have no idea how to fix
@@WunderTechTutorials Thank you, that was it. The name changed, but didn't get it to work yet. The network is not listed in networks. Have to try it tomorrow again.
I’ve tried this method on an 1821 and it will randomly drop the ip and become unreachable unless I shutdown and restart the VM. I’ve not been able to figure this out.
It's been so long since I installed it that I forgot there are a few steps. Sorry about that - in this article, steps 1-4 will show how to configure VMM: www.wundertech.net/how-to-setup-a-synology-dsm-virtual-machine-vdsm/
DS1621+, 4 core, 32 GB RAM. Set VMM at 1 core, 16 GB RAM and it ate my machine. Bogged down. Suggestions for the VM to run Home Assistant with my setup? Thanks
Thank you for the VM config tutorial. It helped and is appreciated. Reset to 1 core and 2GB and restarted the VM. It ran like crazy for 10 minutes then settled down. Guess it was getting set up and I was too quick to judge when I shut it down after 5 minutes the first time. Can I drop it to 1GB of memory to have Home Assistant run? HA is something I may occasionally check on. My concern is giving the VM too much of my 32GB memory. If it's in idle state (asleep) when I'm not accessing HA and not using memory or CPU then what do I care. I'll give it all 4 cores and 4GB memory. Recommendations?
@@jwpepper2835 The joy of Synology's old hardware 🤣. Definitely doesn't run as fast as I'd like, but once it's up and running, it's fine. Since it's a VM, allocating it all 4 cores will most likely slow down the NAS. I'd say 2 cores and 4GB of memory at max is good, but 1GB of memory might have it running at a snails pace. Sweet spot is probably 2 cores / 2GB of memory if you don't want to over allocate for something you won't use often.
How easy is it to migrate a Docker install to VMM? I'd like to get to VMM because I get issues with the USB devices through to my Docker install after some updates, and the backups and snapshots appear better. But I don't want to rebuild everything and I need to know I can link the VMM install to Docker containers for Node Red, etc.
@@WunderTechTutorials I think you can save backups in the container, and it's just whether they can be imported as a startup for a new VMM install. I've searched high and low but no one has done a video on that.
Im just getting into HA but would it be possible for you to log into your current HA web server and use the built in backup option. Then build your VM version of HA, log in to that and restore from that backup?
@@LATerr0rI can definitely create backups via the interface but I'm not confident I can restore to a different install from that backup. This is why I think it'd be a great video.
@@rossco5551 HA is running on a NUC and I was able to upload the full back-up to the newly installed HA on the Synology (DS220+) VMM. Up till now I don't see any difference between the old configuration set up (contains all automations, Add ons etc. etc.). The full restore of the Back-Up takes time 30 minutes? However I still have to figure out the configuration of SkyConnect and probably MQTT. Unfortunately my DS220+ has only one USB at the back-side, now I have to attache the SkyConnect to it (instead of a WD disk for Back-Up purposes). as soon as HA is running at my Synology I'll keep the NUC as fysical back-up gear, just in case off.
@@WunderTechTutorials What I mean is, does using pfsense on synology pose a security risk? We generally position the Synology NAS device behind the firewall. In this installation, we open the synology to the external network.
I use docker and simply take a snapshot of the docker folder. The docker folder contains all my running docker images and I can simply go to the snapshot and recover any docker folder I want.. This works perfectly
Im a perfect use case for this. I have a Synology that I only use for storage and Plex. I want to eventually get a USFF, MS-01 specifically, as a Proxmox box but want to do HA stuff before just to mess with NFC tag automations. So im going to most def do this. @WunderTechTutorials thank you!✌✌
lol i'm not sure he showed anything that would be specific to that particular vendor. You have to choose some software and hardware. Open source and-or well known is usually the way to go unless you have some better suggestions.
I setup HA on my QNAP but the installation process wasn't much different than what you did here. Having the HA virtual machine file available for download was great. I was only looking for a way to have more than just a couple of security cameras without having to pay the licence fee to Synology ( which I also have ) or QNAP. HA worked really well. The bonus is that HA has a smart phone app. And, HA has Tailscale available as an add on as well. With HA and Tailscale on my phone, I can view a live feed from my cameras from anywhere in the world and at zero cost. Brilliant. Thanks as always Frank.
Thanks for this. I have been thinking recently of going all-in with Home Assistant and this is exactly the kind of video I needed.
Please keep making great content 👍🏻
As always, great video Frank. Straight forward, to the point without the fluff! Enjoyed watching and thanks for sharing. I may just have to dabble with Home Assistant. Have a great day!
Thanks so much Tony, I appreciate you watching!
I loved every second of this video! this is the kind of video you want to keep in your favorites list! great job!
Thanks, Avi! Appreciate you watching!
Thank you! This was on my todo forever!!
Awesome video, thank for creating. Would you consider doing a follow up focusing on how to incorporate zigbee into HA hosted on synology NAS? Thank you
When are the new gen home user Synology devices arriving?
I wish I knew - I was hoping for an announcement at Computex, but that came and went so hopefully later this year.
Is it possible to Control light 100km from the server?
I've read DSM7 doesn't allow USB devices like the Zigbee controllers. Will this approach work to allow those?
Good question - I don't have a Zigbee controller but I'll see if I can find out!
Hi, thank you for your tutorials, I like them very much. I followed this instructions an with configuring network for Virtual Machine Manager I broke my macvlan for pihole. This is configured as a container on my Synology followed your instructions. I have no idea how to fix
You'll have to modify the macvlan parent interface. It most likely went from eth0 to ovs_eth0 or something similar, but that's how it can be fixed.
@@WunderTechTutorials Thank you, that was it. The name changed, but didn't get it to work yet. The network is not listed in networks. Have to try it tomorrow again.
@@WunderTechTutorials finally it worked, thanks a lot
I’ve tried this method on an 1821 and it will randomly drop the ip and become unreachable unless I shutdown and restart the VM. I’ve not been able to figure this out.
That is definitely strange - anything you're doing on the NAS when it happens that can cause that?
Home assistant CLI is not running! Jump into emergency... I have Synology nas ds-d723. Version haos_ova-12.4.ova. pls help
Did you find a solution for this? I got the same error.
@@MartijnWarson no i go to install HA in docker and it's great
i followed directions and hass is up but the hacs install worked but it doesnt show integrations,front end or addons when i click on it
It's not in the settings of HA?
Had a similar experience, which turned out to be a typo for me. Did you use a lowercase `-o` in the wget command? the capitalized `-O` worked for me.
@@abraxolotl i tried both. no help
"assuming you have Virtual Machine Manager installed and configured". Check, can install. Uncheck, how to configure?
It's been so long since I installed it that I forgot there are a few steps. Sorry about that - in this article, steps 1-4 will show how to configure VMM: www.wundertech.net/how-to-setup-a-synology-dsm-virtual-machine-vdsm/
DS1621+, 4 core, 32 GB RAM. Set VMM at 1 core, 16 GB RAM and it ate my machine. Bogged down. Suggestions for the VM to run Home Assistant with my setup? Thanks
You shouldn't need that much memory for Home Assistant. Honestly, 4GB is probably even overkill but that will do.
Thank you for the VM config tutorial. It helped and is appreciated.
Reset to 1 core and 2GB and restarted the VM. It ran like crazy for 10 minutes then settled down. Guess it was getting set up and I was too quick to judge when I shut it down after 5 minutes the first time.
Can I drop it to 1GB of memory to have Home Assistant run?
HA is something I may occasionally check on. My concern is giving the VM too much of my 32GB memory.
If it's in idle state (asleep) when I'm not accessing HA and not using memory or CPU then what do I care. I'll give it all 4 cores and 4GB memory.
Recommendations?
@@jwpepper2835 The joy of Synology's old hardware 🤣. Definitely doesn't run as fast as I'd like, but once it's up and running, it's fine.
Since it's a VM, allocating it all 4 cores will most likely slow down the NAS. I'd say 2 cores and 4GB of memory at max is good, but 1GB of memory might have it running at a snails pace. Sweet spot is probably 2 cores / 2GB of memory if you don't want to over allocate for something you won't use often.
How easy is it to migrate a Docker install to VMM? I'd like to get to VMM because I get issues with the USB devices through to my Docker install after some updates, and the backups and snapshots appear better. But I don't want to rebuild everything and I need to know I can link the VMM install to Docker containers for Node Red, etc.
I don't think you can export it unless it's done from the HA application.
@@WunderTechTutorials I think you can save backups in the container, and it's just whether they can be imported as a startup for a new VMM install. I've searched high and low but no one has done a video on that.
Im just getting into HA but would it be possible for you to log into your current HA web server and use the built in backup option. Then build your VM version of HA, log in to that and restore from that backup?
@@LATerr0rI can definitely create backups via the interface but I'm not confident I can restore to a different install from that backup. This is why I think it'd be a great video.
@@rossco5551 HA is running on a NUC and I was able to upload the full back-up to the newly installed HA on the Synology (DS220+) VMM. Up till now I don't see any difference between the old configuration set up (contains all automations, Add ons etc. etc.). The full restore of the Back-Up takes time 30 minutes? However I still have to figure out the configuration of SkyConnect and probably MQTT.
Unfortunately my DS220+ has only one USB at the back-side, now I have to attache the SkyConnect to it (instead of a WD disk for Back-Up purposes).
as soon as HA is running at my Synology I'll keep the NUC as fysical back-up gear, just in case off.
I'm using snapshot without power-off the vm, it it wrong? I did not face any issue until now
There's nothing wrong with doing that, but it's technically better to shut it as you can guarantee all data is written and nothing is changing.
@@WunderTechTutorialsOkay. What do you think about security? İs it good idea to use synology network port as pfsense? İs it a risk?
@@okanerdem I'm not sure what you mean by Synology network port as pfSense. Can you clarify?
@@WunderTechTutorials What I mean is, does using pfsense on synology pose a security risk? We generally position the Synology NAS device behind the firewall. In this installation, we open the synology to the external network.
@@okanerdem Do you mean Home Assistant when you're saying pfSense? pfSense wasn't part of this tutorial.
Don't get it, why not use the apps of the cctv etc, surely that's easier?
I use Blue Iris and the app...isn't the greatest. Plus, I like having everything consolidated into one app if possible.
Then you get some mad botnet attack on your NAS, you lose all your files and have some butt head switching stuff on and off in your home. 😂
First step is making sure that doesn't happen 😂
Why not the lighter docker image? Synology NAS is not a powerful machine (hardware) so using VM is a bit wasting of CPU / RAM 😉
I go into it in the video but mainly for the supervisor + snapshots. Just easier to manage IMO.
I use docker and simply take a snapshot of the docker folder. The docker folder contains all my running docker images and I can simply go to the snapshot and recover any docker folder I want.. This works perfectly
@@berwickcomputers I use docker too but it does suck you can't use add-ons if you use a docker image.
@@jasonheminger4844 I use HACS in docker. But you are correct no add ons but get everything I need done
Going the NAS route rather than ProxMox?
I think Proxmox is a better spot for it but just giving people an option!
Im a perfect use case for this. I have a Synology that I only use for storage and Plex. I want to eventually get a USFF, MS-01 specifically, as a Proxmox box but want to do HA stuff before just to mess with NFC tag automations. So im going to most def do this. @WunderTechTutorials thank you!✌✌
Building “anything” on a specific vendor solution is NOT “SMART”!
lol i'm not sure he showed anything that would be specific to that particular vendor. You have to choose some software and hardware. Open source and-or well known is usually the way to go unless you have some better suggestions.