Make sure to leave a like and let me know what you think in the comments! Edit: Looks like this video sparked quite a bit of controversy so I have tried to make sure to clarify my points and answer the comments that you have all made. Despite some (most) of them not being in support, I am still grateful that you have taken the time to engage with my content!
Didn't even notice. I average about 22 seconds currently but to make the video more entertaining I usually solve for about an hour and a half to get enough 'good' times. It must just be that I recognise that OLL case much faster and therefore makes my times faster (making it into the video more frequently). Honestly I don't know!
@@UK_Cuber Oh by the way over the last few months I've been learning tin whistle and been doing very little cubing but strangely in the last few days I got a sub 23sec ao100 for the first time ever! I'm now averaging around 22.7sec which I feel is not bad for a 55 year old 🙂👍
As pointed out in another comment, Betteridge's law of headlines seems to be proven again. Looking at the dates at 0:37, it becomes obvious that you're cherry picking to make a point. One of those posts is from 8 years ago, so it's irrelevant to the current state of cubing. Although 3x3 hardware may be close to its peak, cubes like the YS3M received very positive feedback. There have been plenty of big releases for other WCA events, so making your argument 3x3-centric is not representative of what's going on. Using the phrase "I don't know that much about it" is a terrible idea when trying to show the decline of an entire hobby/community. Even if there was a lack of exciting releases, I believe the impact would be minimal because the community has never relied on a constant supply of new hardware to stay active. Cubing isn't about the cubes we use at all. I'd love to see any evidence that people are less interested in results, because I don't think that's true. Cubing is all about competing against yourself and performing to the best of your own ability, and that's been the case for decades. Your point about being demotivated by other people is almost completely invalid, because if it was true then every competitive hobby would be dying too. People who can't handle friendly competition shouldn't be cubing. You claimed that we no longer have a large competitive group at the top, removing the rivalry over who is the "fastest". Didn't we have the exact same situation 5-10 years ago with Feliks? Eventually, Feliks passed his peak and people managed to match his skill. I believe the same thing can easily happen with Yiheng in the coming years. Your example to show that WR videos have less views seems to be (deliberately?) exaggerated for effect. You chose a repost of Feliks' video that has noticeably more views than the original, and a repost of Max's video that has noticeably less. Additionally, when Feliks' video was the same age as Max's, it had a comparable amount of views, albeit slightly more because of the nature of the video (e.g. sitting next to Mats, beating the record by 0.01, etc.) I don't recall a time when people cared about comp results any more than they do now, and I have no clue what you meant when you said "no big things are changing". WRs were indeed less frequent in 2023 than some other years, but the amount of WRs per year varies enough that this is normal, and there was still more than one WR per week on average which is more than enough to keep cubing interesting. The technology part just sounded more like a rant imo. Existing cubers won't be drawn away from cubing by modern social media, and the existence of large cubing accounts will only help to draw new people in. For these beginning cubers in particular, tutorials and resources are more readily available than ever through the Internet and kept up to date. YouCubers get burnt out / have other things to do all the time, ane new channels are constantly getting created to replace them. Overall, the benefits seem to outweigh the disadvantages here.
So I disagree with the law of headlines. We have known for a while that with TH-cam titles, thumbnails and introductions they work so much better if a question is asked to the viewer. As this makes them start to think and engage with the content more. So that is the reason behind the title, the video simply wouldn't have performed as well if the title was 'Why I Believe Cubing Is Dying'. The screenshots from Reddit are selected to prove my point. The script was written and voiced before I begun thinking about the edit. Whilst editing I searched on the r/cubers Reddit and found a couple of people who said pretty much the same thing as me so I felt like it was a fit to go into the video. I had to add a section of the video (2:12) because I found that person who made a post which fit with the narrative I was going for (which should prove that my initial intention wasn't to fake any of the Reddit comments). Ok, yes I made a mistake in completely ignoring other events apart from 3x3 in this video which is my bad. I haven't cubed in over 6 months (or kept up with any of the things going on within the community) which is why I felt as though I didn't know anything about the new releases by cube companies. I would argue that maybe 5-6 years ago the cube you used was such a big factor which influenced the hobby and I also think that this is the time when cubing was the most fun (IN MY OPINION). I agree that now, the cubes are all so good that it doesn't really matter which one you use and therefore cube companies don't need to upgrade their 3x3's all too much, but I did enjoy this part of the hobby the most. In previous years, during September-November when all the companies showed of their flagship 3x3's for the first time, the unboxings and reviews were some of my favourite videos to watch. But that's just my opinion. I would struggle to believe that not a single person within this hobby has never been demotivated (even for 5 seconds) by how fast the WR's are. For me knowing that I would never get as fast as them was a little bit of a shame because of how long I'd been cubing for. And I agree that competing against yourself is most of the fun in cubing. I really enjoyed solving and trying to get the AO5 and AO12 on CSTimer to be lower and lower each time, but that doesn't take away from the fact I was never anywhere near the best cubers! Yes I agree, we did have the exact same situation with Felilks but then when Max, Tymon and other came through it was really fun to watch. But once again (much like when Feliks had the WR's) it has become slightly boring. Let's hope that the same happens to Yiheng as it did to Feliks because I do want to see constant faster WR's. Yeah fair enough. Obviously I am going to choose the most viewed video of Feliks WR but the one of Max's only has 100k views less than the most viewed one of his WR, which means that the data isn't actually that far off from what I showed. Furthermore, I don't have the data from when Feliks WR video was 7 months old but I do know (from running TH-cam Channels) that videos die off pretty soon after upload which means that I assumed (maybe incorrectly) that most of the views came soon after the release. To be honest, I haven't seen all too many new cubers get anywhere near similar amounts of views to the older cubers who have stopped/slowed down. And I also agree that the older creators will get burnt out because that happens to most people. But the time at which they have all been burnt out seems too similar to ignore. Thank you for taking the time to engage with this video, and hopefully I have been able to explain and clarify some of my points. I do apologise for completely overlooking some parts (such as other events that you mentioned) when I made this video.
Change is one of the things in life that's invitable if we like it or not. While not all change has been to my liking I personally think cubing is alive and well. A lot of comps fill up very quickly, sometimes in minutes, it's exciting that we'll get more and more none-3x3 puzzles with ball-core especially big cubes and we still see plenty of records in almost every event (for now). I have to admit that I sometimes feel nostalgic about the good old times and I totally agree that we could use some new fresh cubing channels with great content, I miss some of the old channels who don't upload anymore. Although there are a few new channels with great content most of the new ones cater to the tik tok audience with repetitive and unoriginal content. I also agree that spending too much time on social media is very bad for us.
Yeah you mention all good points here. The old creators are some of the best and it's a shame that they've slowed down/stopped. And with the new creators who are growing, it's clear that their intents are not the same as those who grew without TikTok/YT Shorts.
The community has grown a lot in the past few years. There are now more WCA competitions than ever before, but as far as TH-camrs and and advertisement of cubing to the general public it has been lacking. I think there is a lot of room for growth when it comes to the entertainment aspect. I really like h2h style competition like monkey league, and I think that is something that could help cubing grow even more in the future.
To branch off of this, even with WCA competitions happening more than ever before they are being executed in the exact same way they have in the past. The thing about the WCA is that it would be very difficult to maintain the current appeal/diversity for cubers while also making it more spectator friendly or interesting for non cubers.
Yeah, that second point is interesting to me as I hadn't thought about it before. I think that if the WCA created a new type of competition/event it would put off all of the older cubers who much prefer the more traditional structure. And for the WCA to prioritise new fans, it would seem unfair to those who have been attending for a long time. You have made a very good point!
i definitely agree with the points you brought, although im bringing another one i think the wca is already trying to implement those head to head tournaments, for example with the nations cup on worlds 2023
@@UK_Cuber true but it doesnt need to be only WRs. prob some recently good results someone got or a famous solve from the past. maybe also a "guess the average" series? lol
I've seen a few of those from not world record solves from some small creators. the problem with that content is that you need to know cfop and at least how some submethods work (like zbll, wv, coll...) to really understand what the person is showing
Confirmation bias, pareidolia, seek and you shall find what fits your feelings at any one particular time. For me cubing will continue to grow with more people attending comps, especially comps with smart cubes that seem to be a hit with the competitors and audiences alike. It's all about promotion, marketing... AI will take cubing forward with a little development and imagination from people interested and in the right positions in the cubing world. Imagine sitting at home or walking into a custom booth, internet style café and performing 100 - 1000 solves with a vitrual cube, normal cube or smart cube, with pressure sensors.., having cameras set recording from multiple angles, capturing the solves you do, your grip, hand placement, finger tricks, then AI taking all that information analysing it and the way you solve, then tailoring a learning program based on that information, your level, abilities, turning style, hands, algs used etc... Giving you a virtual video, reconstruction, breakdown and a printout. It could also create a immersive virtual reality for you sit in and practice with it's recommended solving solutions for F2L, OLL, PLL algs, holding the cube, finger tricks to use.., continuing to give advice and recommendations as you solve or a critique after every solve to help you improve. Think out of the box or cube, it's all perspectives 🙃🙂👍
Very interesting point. To begin, I fully agree with the confirmation bias. If I was cubing 2 hours a day, 7 days a week there is no way I'd make this video. But the time I have spent not cubing just means that something was not right, whether that be to do with the points I have made or just regular burn out. Personally, I can only make videos on my feelings and therefore if I think cubing might be showing signs of dying out (maybe not just yet) then that is the video I am going to make. I do also think that I didn't show the things that prove cubing is growing, such as competitions and AI, which has resulted in this video being very one-sided! Your ideas about this futuristic cubing experience sounds incredible! But at the moment I think this is quite a while away. Anyway, thank you for taking the time to give your opinions and I hope my response has clarified some things!
@@UK_Cuber I don't disagree with your observations but it could be more evolution rather than extinction hopefully but time will tell 🙂👍 Edited: Oh about the futuristic cubing, an Avatar teacher, trainer, coach could be the way to guide you to become better, faster more efficient at solving. Then there's chips in the brain but yeah that's a few years away at the moment 🙂👍
I think the yt community is not where it used to be, but as someone who is much more invested in my local community I can tell you with 100% certainty that the community as a whole everywhere is growing the reason youre seeing people quit is because they are mostly the older cubers that have been doing it for a while and its getting old for them, and the new people are realizing that its much more fun to be invested in the local aspect than the global aspect, looking at the reddit isnt a great reference point either because its not being used like it used to be, because people have realized that the local aspect is more fun to be a part of, in my opinion your level of research from this video was shallow, though I don't blame you as you have been disconnected from the community for a while but this video just feels lazy to me (I know that I'm not a content creator and I have no idea how difficult content creation is) I do get where you're coming from with the cube releases but that just isn't as big of an aspect as it used to be as innovation is much harder now, but the post-covid wave of cubers care less about wrs and cube releases, and tht hasn't slowed growth whatsoever, also as an organizer we have had to make bigger and more often competitions due to the growth of the community, overall the community is growing and that's not really seeing much of a slow down anytime soon
also there are a ton of innovations going into competitions with livestreaming and things like timebase, just becase hardware innovations are slowing down doesn't mean innovations in the community are
Yeah I understand what you are saying. It does hurt that you believe my research and effort is shallow and lazy but what can I do! For the most part I try to gain as much information from the average person rather than going for people who have loud and powerful opinions which is why I went to Reddit for the screenshots.
I agree. I am cubing since 2015 (aka since I was 6) and the past cuple of years have not been that great for cubing. In my opinion new WCA event would help a lot with popularity of cubing. Great video 👍
idk theres many more young cubers now and champs have grown twice in size. theres more resources than ever and i think there are still more breakthroughs in events to be made; after all there's no mathematical proof that cfop is the best method yet. i also started in 2015 🙂
Please actually come to a cubing competition! I'm afraid my sales data doesn't agree with the idea that there was a massive special hype for the tornado v3, it was a popular cube but so have all the gan releases and many of MoYus releases. I have a feeling the new xman hong might create some new hype within 5x5 but thats already a small sub category of cubing. Anyway, it will be interesting to see what cubing USA manage to do with worlds next year
Interesting to hear that the Tornado V3 didn't show as being overly popular, for me I think that was one of the best cubes at its release so I'm surprised it didn't outperform other cubes. I don't really keep up with any other events so I have no clue about the Hong but if its got some good new features then that would be good for the community.
cubing isnt dead, youtube cubing content is, it's two different things, tbh cubing is actually on a peak atm lmao, it isnt even near dying yet, it's just youtube that's just falling behind
@@derpizzaman1050 maybe, personally as someone who sees cubing more as a competitive sport rather than entertainment i feel like we do care about hardware a lot, but the thing is, we care about opinions coming from people who are actually good at cubing (not that i don't give credit to the really good and entertaining content creators, i watch them all just not for that purpose because most of them arent as close competitively to some of us) and in general the content landscape that revolves cubing is always the same, unboxings, reviews, competitions and at most, challenges, but this all just ends up being the same thing over and over again and it probably gets boring for the actual creators (?) idk
@@timecat1174 when I got back into cubing, I would binge unboxings and reviews a lot,but recently I don't really care, unless it's a puzzle I'm looking forward to. Now I get a bunch of meme cubing videos from channels with 1000 subs or less and I've been enjoying it more. I guess I can only speak to my personal experience though.
Yeah I agree with the point about personality. Now that cubes are all petty similar in how fast they can make you, people aren't making/watching reviews and unboxings as much anymore.
@@UK_Cuber yes, the evolution in cubing hardware has made it a thing that's more about taste rather than one actually being better than the other and its a whole complicated mess😭
i dissagree, you spent 12 seconds on the question of if cubing is even dying and the "proof" that you gave is that people are quitting, its just that people that are on the internet cubed for a pretty long time now and start to get bored of it. thats completely normal for any hobby and just starts happening to cubing i do agree with some of the points but not with the main one i spent way too much time on this comment
Thanks for engaging! Yeah I think that the boredom of people is definitely normal with any hobby so I agree there. But without more people growing, it’s hard for anyone to find good cubers to watch on TH-cam.
One idea i had was to have a competition favoring solves in few turns. Such as +1 minute for every turn more than the minimum required to solve the cube. Have both contestants start with the same scramble.
I just got back into it as well. I take this video with a grain of salt. These Cube TH-camrs are old now, and sometimes you just fall out of a hobby you once enjoyed. But that doesn't mean everyone suddenly thinks like you and everyone's leaving at the same time as you. Think about all the sports that aren't as well known. Do you think Power lifting is dead just because you don't follow the power lifting scene? No. We aren't in that community so we don't know what's happening in it. Could you say that cubing is losing popularity? Yes. But that's just part of the ebb and flow of topics online. Maybe this year, roller skating will be cool again. Maybe fidget spinners are coming back. Cubing has always been one of those hobbies that comes and passes for me, but even if a bunch of people come in for the fad, but leave a month later, the core community has always been pretty strong.
It seems to me like the community is still very active. Comps in my part of the USA still fill up and there's always first-timers joining. A lot of the new 3x3s (not all) still seem bad compared to the Tornado v3. Cube manufactures should really work harder to improve and if their new cubes are not better then they should not release them until they are better. :)
Yeah I agree with both the points made here. I didn't really consider competition attendance when making this video but to hear that the fill up could be a sign that cubing isn't dying. I think many cube manufactures are working really hard to find a new piece of technology that can revolutionise the market but that is much more difficult than it seems. But it is annoying when these companies just re-make last years product with a couple more ways to adjust the cube when in reality we don't need 2000+ different ways to change our settings.
its been 10 years since the most recent event was added to the WCA. Something new for manufacturers to make and something new for people to practice would go a long way
Yeah I fully agree, ten years is way longer than I realised it was. If all of the manufactures were back to an equal level (on a new event), they'd be constantly battling for improvements which would be really good for cubing.
I believe the incredibly fast solving in cubing nowadays can be frustrating for many people, particularly because the results you obtain from spending time cubing often feel irrelevant unless you can solve in the 3-6 second range. Achieving that level isn't as easy as it may seem. Don't get me wrong; all these high-level competitions and fast-solving are truly great. However, the competitive aspect of cubing is often narrowed down to a small number of individuals. While we have multiple new cube releases every week that promise better performance, we lack many other tools and platforms to keep cubing entertaining. Expanding the competitive side of cubing could be beneficial, similar to the online video game community, where you can have fun and compete at almost every skill level without needing to be a super high-level pro player, making things much more enjoyable. Perhaps cubing could achieve this with different competitive environments, tiers, and event categories-I don't know. Smart cubes seem to be a good way of doing it, but the platforms are still very limited.
Yeah, there are very few people who could possibly break the world record nowadays because of how fast they are. I like the idea of tiers in competitions, it would make sure that your only going against the people who are at a similar speed to you and therefore not everyone is bundled into the same group which can be way too fast for most cubers.
I haven't watched the entire video yet, but I think it's not true. There are much more competitions than ever before. TH-camrs can stop uploading videos, but cubing goes on... We can see how competitors get on such a high level that it was unimaginable a few years earlier. It also means that the puzzles are much better than ever before, so there is no need to give out new puzzles one after one. I would like to see a new good 3x3 and 2x2 but there are millions of them already, so we have so much opportunities now. It also means that companies have a much, much harder level to reach if they want to make a new cube, so they can't develop new ones quickly. I think it would be more fun to make 8x8 and some other puzzles WCA event to make it more interesting. It never saw the point of clock, pyraminx and skewb events but they exist for some reason. We could refresh WCA now to keep the peace and change some stupid rules. Also, scrambling robots (for a cheap price) would be nice to see in the near future to avoid scrambling by ourselves because it's so 2007... 6x6 reached a ridiculous level that we couldn't imagine. Even gigaminxes are on a higher level than a 5x5 a few years ago. There are many useless things - mostly in gan cubes - that exist to blind cubers and pay more for nothing, but the puzzles are now much more fun than before. Everyone moves on by time, but new cubers always show up and there are more and more as humanity grows. The only problem is the price... $47 in 2016 was extremely high and now we can't buy top cubes under $50. O.o
Yeah, cube companies have no chance of developing cubes quickly because of how much has to go into them to try and seem new and innovative. Yeah maybe the WCA needs to change some rules but I don't know what that would be. Haha, scrambling robots would be useful in competition formats but for at-home practice I think for the time being just scrambling my hand is the best way. The price of cubes is getting a little bit ridiculous, there is no way they need to be that expensive.
personally i think so there isnt really much to cover in cubing now and the records are getting harder and harder to break i’ve not been cubing much anymore i only cube when i just am bored and pick up a cube and i dont even time solves
Honestly, cubing is nowhere NEAR dead. Theres probobly hundreds of thousands or even millions of people who cube. I dont think its going to die anytime soon
Interesting point. I based this video on the views people has on the r/cubers reddit and what they were feeling. I guess people don't show their enjoyment for something as much as people share their disliking to it.
It's not a problem in terms how it influences the turning and performance but it does impact how much people are interested in the hobby. For me, I used to find keeping up with the specific cubes and the new releases really interesting and it was one of the reasons I enjoyed the hobby so much.
Feel like there are a lot of reasons. Here are my thoughts: 1. The hype of new cubes are just not the same, a few years ago magnetic levatation was actually pretty huge, or remember when they introduce magnets into cubes that allowed for so many possibilities. Now it's like you are more annoyed with the fact that the cube's magnets are strong as heck ( weilong v9) then the cube itself. 2. There's nothing new with cubing. All the algs or tricks are posted on youtube already, I feel like people upload cube opening more than actually make videos dedicted to algs or something. 3. Time itself. Nothing stays forever, the hype eventually dies down.
Yeah I fully agree with you here. Cube companies are clearly running out of innovations which is a shame because it was really fun to watch new and exiting releases. It would be nice to see people focusing more on new algorithms and tricks but viewers just don't find this as engaging and therefore it won't get the same views (and money for the creator). Yeah whilst it's sad, cubing has been around for a very long time so maybe it could die down for a while.
1:38 i dont mean to add shame but just leaving my thoughts as asked! feel like out of everything, this is my least favorite completely opinion based view about the community in the video. within the same paragraph cited from the 5 year prediction post itself, they stated that the community has been putting too much onus on the best cubers to **keep breaking more impossible records** instead of **just being the best cubers of the time**, let alone publicizing everything else exciting about the cubing community. regardless, changing and shifting focus, within or without the cubing community, is perfectly cool.
@@UK_Cuberbut we are not really there yet, especially that a new generation of cubers is coming. I'm sure Yiheng Wang will get a sub 3 solve in a competition in the future. Big cubes are also not fully pushed to the limit yet, and also blindfold events.
Yes, it seems like videos of others cubing is more enjoyable to people than doing it themselves. It's probably down to how engaging some creators make their videos which completely contrasts how basic and repetitive cubing can sometimes be.
For me the biggest thing was to fully predict the cross during inspection time, this starts the solve in the best way and ensures you don't pause within the first couple of seconds.
I'm 41 and I'm more into collecting budget cubes that made significant impact to cubing community like ylm, qiyi ms, rs3m 2020. I just enjoy cubing but not into competing
First of all There has been more Comps, Newcomer and overall Competitors last year Secondly, a barrier in World Record is the opposite of Hypedeath but a boost of hype Take Max's 3,13 the hype about it was crazy Btw to your Point of cubes releases Moyu brought out some tough competition to Gan Also the Ball Core Big cubes are coming in. Life just doesn't only depends on 3x3 A new event such as Skweb would not help to make every equally good There would be invented new advanced methods if not already existing. And Pleas stop this talk about another Format. 1v1s are in cases like Clock cup or Monkey League fun to watch, but they are no way of fair competition Let's actually argue about this 😊,
Ok so yes, there might be more people attending competitions now and the hype around Max's world record was pretty big. However the WR is likely not going to be broken for a long time again and so the hype soon dies out. Personally I think that people mostly care about the releases in 3x3 and the advance in technology in those cubes but I do understand your point about big cubes receiving some good improvements. I don't think the new events like skweb would help because people will naturally be so much faster than others. But on a new format, I do genuinely think there would be a good way to make this interesting, fun to watch, and fair.
@@UK_Cuber well, the WR of Yu shengdou (I hope I don't misspelled) was doubted to ever be broken since it was so ahead of his time And jet we sitting here also I think a Format change would make the things more complicated. In general id prefer that many people should care about all events more than just 3x3
I think that people caring about more than 3x3 would be good yet you have to imagine how many people learn 3x3 just to be able to say they can solve a rubik's cube whilst not actually caring about the hobby too much more than that.
What if instead of clickbaiting that cubing died, you start innovating new exciting cubing content ? I do agree with the statement about the wca, it feels kind of dry to have 3x3 as a ao5 round of 16 every single championship. Cubing is also at a peak of competitors so cubing is definetly getting a lot of recognition
Interesting, I think that for a video to be clickbait it has to deceive the viewers, but I'd argue that I backed up the title and thumbnail (might be bias though!) I didn't realise that competitions are peaking right now but that is a good point.
I completely agree with you some might argue there’s more competitions than ever but jperm brodythecuber cubing encoded and maybe soon cubehead have quit
@@UK_Cuber Not trying to hate on you as a person or your other content, just the way it was spoken in the beginning, and because of the major hype for new cubes that revolved around 2022-2024, sorry if I came off as hostile, just thought you were actually joking. Opinions are opinions 👍
Interesting, I think using a question in the title is more about how to ensure TH-cam viewers will relate to a video and are therefore will be more likely to want to watch and interact with it, but I'm ok with your opinion.
@@UK_Cuber I do agree that cubing youtube is pretty dead but competitions are doing better than ever, out of the top 10 weeks with most competitions, 9 have been after autumn 2023 and 3 are in January/February 2024.
Speed cubing is not really dead though the Gan 13 and 14 and 12 were such a big disappointment 😢 and yiheng is dominating but people like Tymon will beat him and there is also some new kid from Russia who got an average 0.01 of feliks and you need to practice more often but I am assuming you do not have the time to practice 24/7 same here as you get older you sometimes just need to move on and with yiheng he will to eventually get bored and quit though he is obviously obsessed with this sport and people do want to improve a lot and it is very demotivateing when you don’t 😊
1) please learn lefty double flicks 2) 1:07 you did U' R U2 R' U' L U L' U L U' L' which is 12 moves you can do L' U L U' L U L' 3) the pair right after that you should rotate to blue or green front and do R' U R2 U' R' or L' U L2 U' L both regripless and 2 moves less than what you did fourth pair of same solve you should rotate and do R' U2 R U R' U' R it's not good to rotate in the middle of a pair 4) 1:31 for this pair you should do U2 F U' R U R' U F' or rotate into triple inverse sexy move
@@UK_Cuber I think cubing is not dead because there are more and more younger cubers cubing every day. If anything, the Cubing community is surviving and growing. Also, great video!!!
Your on about nothing. Records are harder to break because they get lower. There have been a lot of more and exciting releases. And TH-camRS HAVE A LIFE. THEY DON’T ALWAYS HAVE TO DO TH-cam.
@@UK_Cuber i think thats more of a symptom of the fact that they have all been doing it for around the same length of time /longer than one another, hence are going to all start gaining other interests around the same time as well. Take the large number of old content creators around youtube who are slowing down / quitting uploads recently; is that evidence for youtube dying? no, its just that they have been in the business for a long time and want to move on. There are still a large number of cubing creators who are making content, just are less known due to saturation. The biggest problem i have with your view is how it seems you're projecting your own burnout / disinterest to the hobby to the community as a whole, and using a few reddit posts (likely from people who have been cubing as long as you have) and old content creators to confirm it. apologies for the paragraph and a half :P
Make sure to leave a like and let me know what you think in the comments!
Edit: Looks like this video sparked quite a bit of controversy so I have tried to make sure to clarify my points and answer the comments that you have all made. Despite some (most) of them not being in support, I am still grateful that you have taken the time to engage with my content!
ok this was a great video but are we not gonna talk about how he got like 7 of the same OLL
Didn't even notice. I average about 22 seconds currently but to make the video more entertaining I usually solve for about an hour and a half to get enough 'good' times. It must just be that I recognise that OLL case much faster and therefore makes my times faster (making it into the video more frequently). Honestly I don't know!
@@UK_Cuber Oh by the way over the last few months I've been learning tin whistle and been doing very little cubing but strangely in the last few days I got a sub 23sec ao100 for the first time ever! I'm now averaging around 22.7sec which I feel is not bad for a 55 year old 🙂👍
As pointed out in another comment, Betteridge's law of headlines seems to be proven again.
Looking at the dates at 0:37, it becomes obvious that you're cherry picking to make a point. One of those posts is from 8 years ago, so it's irrelevant to the current state of cubing.
Although 3x3 hardware may be close to its peak, cubes like the YS3M received very positive feedback. There have been plenty of big releases for other WCA events, so making your argument 3x3-centric is not representative of what's going on. Using the phrase "I don't know that much about it" is a terrible idea when trying to show the decline of an entire hobby/community. Even if there was a lack of exciting releases, I believe the impact would be minimal because the community has never relied on a constant supply of new hardware to stay active. Cubing isn't about the cubes we use at all.
I'd love to see any evidence that people are less interested in results, because I don't think that's true. Cubing is all about competing against yourself and performing to the best of your own ability, and that's been the case for decades. Your point about being demotivated by other people is almost completely invalid, because if it was true then every competitive hobby would be dying too. People who can't handle friendly competition shouldn't be cubing.
You claimed that we no longer have a large competitive group at the top, removing the rivalry over who is the "fastest". Didn't we have the exact same situation 5-10 years ago with Feliks? Eventually, Feliks passed his peak and people managed to match his skill. I believe the same thing can easily happen with Yiheng in the coming years.
Your example to show that WR videos have less views seems to be (deliberately?) exaggerated for effect. You chose a repost of Feliks' video that has noticeably more views than the original, and a repost of Max's video that has noticeably less. Additionally, when Feliks' video was the same age as Max's, it had a comparable amount of views, albeit slightly more because of the nature of the video (e.g. sitting next to Mats, beating the record by 0.01, etc.)
I don't recall a time when people cared about comp results any more than they do now, and I have no clue what you meant when you said "no big things are changing". WRs were indeed less frequent in 2023 than some other years, but the amount of WRs per year varies enough that this is normal, and there was still more than one WR per week on average which is more than enough to keep cubing interesting.
The technology part just sounded more like a rant imo. Existing cubers won't be drawn away from cubing by modern social media, and the existence of large cubing accounts will only help to draw new people in. For these beginning cubers in particular, tutorials and resources are more readily available than ever through the Internet and kept up to date. YouCubers get burnt out / have other things to do all the time, ane new channels are constantly getting created to replace them. Overall, the benefits seem to outweigh the disadvantages here.
So I disagree with the law of headlines. We have known for a while that with TH-cam titles, thumbnails and introductions they work so much better if a question is asked to the viewer. As this makes them start to think and engage with the content more. So that is the reason behind the title, the video simply wouldn't have performed as well if the title was 'Why I Believe Cubing Is Dying'.
The screenshots from Reddit are selected to prove my point. The script was written and voiced before I begun thinking about the edit. Whilst editing I searched on the r/cubers Reddit and found a couple of people who said pretty much the same thing as me so I felt like it was a fit to go into the video. I had to add a section of the video (2:12) because I found that person who made a post which fit with the narrative I was going for (which should prove that my initial intention wasn't to fake any of the Reddit comments).
Ok, yes I made a mistake in completely ignoring other events apart from 3x3 in this video which is my bad. I haven't cubed in over 6 months (or kept up with any of the things going on within the community) which is why I felt as though I didn't know anything about the new releases by cube companies. I would argue that maybe 5-6 years ago the cube you used was such a big factor which influenced the hobby and I also think that this is the time when cubing was the most fun (IN MY OPINION). I agree that now, the cubes are all so good that it doesn't really matter which one you use and therefore cube companies don't need to upgrade their 3x3's all too much, but I did enjoy this part of the hobby the most. In previous years, during September-November when all the companies showed of their flagship 3x3's for the first time, the unboxings and reviews were some of my favourite videos to watch. But that's just my opinion.
I would struggle to believe that not a single person within this hobby has never been demotivated (even for 5 seconds) by how fast the WR's are. For me knowing that I would never get as fast as them was a little bit of a shame because of how long I'd been cubing for. And I agree that competing against yourself is most of the fun in cubing. I really enjoyed solving and trying to get the AO5 and AO12 on CSTimer to be lower and lower each time, but that doesn't take away from the fact I was never anywhere near the best cubers!
Yes I agree, we did have the exact same situation with Felilks but then when Max, Tymon and other came through it was really fun to watch. But once again (much like when Feliks had the WR's) it has become slightly boring. Let's hope that the same happens to Yiheng as it did to Feliks because I do want to see constant faster WR's.
Yeah fair enough. Obviously I am going to choose the most viewed video of Feliks WR but the one of Max's only has 100k views less than the most viewed one of his WR, which means that the data isn't actually that far off from what I showed. Furthermore, I don't have the data from when Feliks WR video was 7 months old but I do know (from running TH-cam Channels) that videos die off pretty soon after upload which means that I assumed (maybe incorrectly) that most of the views came soon after the release.
To be honest, I haven't seen all too many new cubers get anywhere near similar amounts of views to the older cubers who have stopped/slowed down. And I also agree that the older creators will get burnt out because that happens to most people. But the time at which they have all been burnt out seems too similar to ignore.
Thank you for taking the time to engage with this video, and hopefully I have been able to explain and clarify some of my points. I do apologise for completely overlooking some parts (such as other events that you mentioned) when I made this video.
Change is one of the things in life that's invitable if we like it or not. While not all change has been to my liking I personally think cubing is alive and well. A lot of comps fill up very quickly, sometimes in minutes, it's exciting that we'll get more and more none-3x3 puzzles with ball-core especially big cubes and we still see plenty of records in almost every event (for now). I have to admit that I sometimes feel nostalgic about the good old times and I totally agree that we could use some new fresh cubing channels with great content, I miss some of the old channels who don't upload anymore. Although there are a few new channels with great content most of the new ones cater to the tik tok audience with repetitive and unoriginal content. I also agree that spending too much time on social media is very bad for us.
Yeah you mention all good points here. The old creators are some of the best and it's a shame that they've slowed down/stopped. And with the new creators who are growing, it's clear that their intents are not the same as those who grew without TikTok/YT Shorts.
The community has grown a lot in the past few years. There are now more WCA competitions than ever before, but as far as TH-camrs and and advertisement of cubing to the general public it has been lacking. I think there is a lot of room for growth when it comes to the entertainment aspect. I really like h2h style competition like monkey league, and I think that is something that could help cubing grow even more in the future.
To branch off of this, even with WCA competitions happening more than ever before they are being executed in the exact same way they have in the past. The thing about the WCA is that it would be very difficult to maintain the current appeal/diversity for cubers while also making it more spectator friendly or interesting for non cubers.
Yeah, that second point is interesting to me as I hadn't thought about it before. I think that if the WCA created a new type of competition/event it would put off all of the older cubers who much prefer the more traditional structure. And for the WCA to prioritise new fans, it would seem unfair to those who have been attending for a long time. You have made a very good point!
i definitely agree with the points you brought, although im bringing another one
i think the wca is already trying to implement those head to head tournaments, for example with the nations cup on worlds 2023
Yeah, that's interesting. Maybe that's a tester to see if this format could work in the future.
We gotta have a GothamChess equivalent for cubing, reconstructing solves and averages. Many people would def watch that
Yeah that would be a good channel. However, with the infrequency of WR results, there may not be many solves to reconstruct.
@@UK_Cuber true but it doesnt need to be only WRs. prob some recently good results someone got or a famous solve from the past. maybe also a "guess the average" series? lol
@@fantiscious brian sun, stucube, etc. they make informative recon vids and thats just a few
@@fantiscious I wanna do guess the average now! Tho my channel is mostly gd
I've seen a few of those from not world record solves from some small creators. the problem with that content is that you need to know cfop and at least how some submethods work (like zbll, wv, coll...) to really understand what the person is showing
Confirmation bias, pareidolia, seek and you shall find what fits your feelings at any one particular time. For me cubing will continue to grow with more people attending comps, especially comps with smart cubes that seem to be a hit with the competitors and audiences alike. It's all about promotion, marketing...
AI will take cubing forward with a little development and imagination from people interested and in the right positions in the cubing world.
Imagine sitting at home or walking into a custom booth, internet style café and performing 100 - 1000 solves with a vitrual cube, normal cube or smart cube, with pressure sensors.., having cameras set recording from multiple angles, capturing the solves you do, your grip, hand placement, finger tricks, then AI taking all that information analysing it and the way you solve, then tailoring a learning program based on that information, your level, abilities, turning style, hands, algs used etc... Giving you a virtual video, reconstruction, breakdown and a printout. It could also create a immersive virtual reality for you sit in and practice with it's recommended solving solutions for F2L, OLL, PLL algs, holding the cube, finger tricks to use.., continuing to give advice and recommendations as you solve or a critique after every solve to help you improve. Think out of the box or cube, it's all perspectives 🙃🙂👍
Very interesting point.
To begin, I fully agree with the confirmation bias. If I was cubing 2 hours a day, 7 days a week there is no way I'd make this video. But the time I have spent not cubing just means that something was not right, whether that be to do with the points I have made or just regular burn out. Personally, I can only make videos on my feelings and therefore if I think cubing might be showing signs of dying out (maybe not just yet) then that is the video I am going to make. I do also think that I didn't show the things that prove cubing is growing, such as competitions and AI, which has resulted in this video being very one-sided!
Your ideas about this futuristic cubing experience sounds incredible! But at the moment I think this is quite a while away.
Anyway, thank you for taking the time to give your opinions and I hope my response has clarified some things!
@@UK_Cuber I don't disagree with your observations but it could be more evolution rather than extinction hopefully but time will tell 🙂👍
Edited: Oh about the futuristic cubing, an Avatar teacher, trainer, coach could be the way to guide you to become better, faster more efficient at solving. Then there's chips in the brain but yeah that's a few years away at the moment 🙂👍
I hope it's a long time away! I don't fancy any chips in my brain just quite yet.
@@UK_Cuber 🙂🙂
I think the yt community is not where it used to be, but as someone who is much more invested in my local community I can tell you with 100% certainty that the community as a whole everywhere is growing the reason youre seeing people quit is because they are mostly the older cubers that have been doing it for a while and its getting old for them, and the new people are realizing that its much more fun to be invested in the local aspect than the global aspect, looking at the reddit isnt a great reference point either because its not being used like it used to be, because people have realized that the local aspect is more fun to be a part of, in my opinion your level of research from this video was shallow, though I don't blame you as you have been disconnected from the community for a while but this video just feels lazy to me (I know that I'm not a content creator and I have no idea how difficult content creation is) I do get where you're coming from with the cube releases but that just isn't as big of an aspect as it used to be as innovation is much harder now, but the post-covid wave of cubers care less about wrs and cube releases, and tht hasn't slowed growth whatsoever, also as an organizer we have had to make bigger and more often competitions due to the growth of the community, overall the community is growing and that's not really seeing much of a slow down anytime soon
sorry if this comment seemed kinda all over the place, I was just writing stuff down as I thought of it
also there are a ton of innovations going into competitions with livestreaming and things like timebase, just becase hardware innovations are slowing down doesn't mean innovations in the community are
Yeah I understand what you are saying. It does hurt that you believe my research and effort is shallow and lazy but what can I do! For the most part I try to gain as much information from the average person rather than going for people who have loud and powerful opinions which is why I went to Reddit for the screenshots.
I agree. I am cubing since 2015 (aka since I was 6) and the past cuple of years have not been that great for cubing. In my opinion new WCA event would help a lot with popularity of cubing. Great video 👍
That's a long time to be cubing and I can imagine it has started to get a little bit repetitive. Thanks for commenting!
idk theres many more young cubers now and champs have grown twice in size. theres more resources than ever and i think there are still more breakthroughs in events to be made; after all there's no mathematical proof that cfop is the best method yet. i also started in 2015 🙂
I agree, people can breakthrough in events so much faster due to all the advancements.
Please actually come to a cubing competition! I'm afraid my sales data doesn't agree with the idea that there was a massive special hype for the tornado v3, it was a popular cube but so have all the gan releases and many of MoYus releases. I have a feeling the new xman hong might create some new hype within 5x5 but thats already a small sub category of cubing. Anyway, it will be interesting to see what cubing USA manage to do with worlds next year
Interesting to hear that the Tornado V3 didn't show as being overly popular, for me I think that was one of the best cubes at its release so I'm surprised it didn't outperform other cubes. I don't really keep up with any other events so I have no clue about the Hong but if its got some good new features then that would be good for the community.
cubing isnt dead, youtube cubing content is, it's two different things, tbh cubing is actually on a peak atm lmao, it isnt even near dying yet, it's just youtube that's just falling behind
I think more people aren't caring about hardware anymore, but are looking for more personality from TH-camrs and even professional cubers
@@derpizzaman1050 maybe, personally as someone who sees cubing more as a competitive sport rather than entertainment i feel like we do care about hardware a lot, but the thing is, we care about opinions coming from people who are actually good at cubing (not that i don't give credit to the really good and entertaining content creators, i watch them all just not for that purpose because most of them arent as close competitively to some of us) and in general the content landscape that revolves cubing is always the same, unboxings, reviews, competitions and at most, challenges, but this all just ends up being the same thing over and over again and it probably gets boring for the actual creators (?) idk
@@timecat1174 when I got back into cubing, I would binge unboxings and reviews a lot,but recently I don't really care, unless it's a puzzle I'm looking forward to. Now I get a bunch of meme cubing videos from channels with 1000 subs or less and I've been enjoying it more. I guess I can only speak to my personal experience though.
Yeah I agree with the point about personality. Now that cubes are all petty similar in how fast they can make you, people aren't making/watching reviews and unboxings as much anymore.
@@UK_Cuber yes, the evolution in cubing hardware has made it a thing that's more about taste rather than one actually being better than the other and its a whole complicated mess😭
i dissagree, you spent 12 seconds on the question of if cubing is even dying and the "proof" that you gave is that people are quitting, its just that people that are on the internet cubed for a pretty long time now and start to get bored of it. thats completely normal for any hobby and just starts happening to cubing
i do agree with some of the points but not with the main one
i spent way too much time on this comment
Thanks for engaging! Yeah I think that the boredom of people is definitely normal with any hobby so I agree there. But without more people growing, it’s hard for anyone to find good cubers to watch on TH-cam.
One idea i had was to have a competition favoring solves in few turns.
Such as +1 minute for every turn more than the minimum required to solve the cube.
Have both contestants start with the same scramble.
Interesting idea, could work but maybe it is similar to FMC
i just started getting into cubing again from back in 2016-17. I hope this isnt the case cus im loving this hobby again.
Haha, I hope it isn't the case aswell!
I just got back into it as well. I take this video with a grain of salt. These Cube TH-camrs are old now, and sometimes you just fall out of a hobby you once enjoyed. But that doesn't mean everyone suddenly thinks like you and everyone's leaving at the same time as you. Think about all the sports that aren't as well known. Do you think Power lifting is dead just because you don't follow the power lifting scene? No. We aren't in that community so we don't know what's happening in it. Could you say that cubing is losing popularity? Yes. But that's just part of the ebb and flow of topics online. Maybe this year, roller skating will be cool again. Maybe fidget spinners are coming back. Cubing has always been one of those hobbies that comes and passes for me, but even if a bunch of people come in for the fad, but leave a month later, the core community has always been pretty strong.
It seems to me like the community is still very active. Comps in my part of the USA still fill up and there's always first-timers joining. A lot of the new 3x3s (not all) still seem bad compared to the Tornado v3. Cube manufactures should really work harder to improve and if their new cubes are not better then they should not release them until they are better. :)
Yeah I agree with both the points made here. I didn't really consider competition attendance when making this video but to hear that the fill up could be a sign that cubing isn't dying. I think many cube manufactures are working really hard to find a new piece of technology that can revolutionise the market but that is much more difficult than it seems. But it is annoying when these companies just re-make last years product with a couple more ways to adjust the cube when in reality we don't need 2000+ different ways to change our settings.
Agreed. :) @@UK_Cuber
its been 10 years since the most recent event was added to the WCA. Something new for manufacturers to make and something new for people to practice would go a long way
Yeah I fully agree, ten years is way longer than I realised it was. If all of the manufactures were back to an equal level (on a new event), they'd be constantly battling for improvements which would be really good for cubing.
I believe the incredibly fast solving in cubing nowadays can be frustrating for many people, particularly because the results you obtain from spending time cubing often feel irrelevant unless you can solve in the 3-6 second range. Achieving that level isn't as easy as it may seem. Don't get me wrong; all these high-level competitions and fast-solving are truly great. However, the competitive aspect of cubing is often narrowed down to a small number of individuals.
While we have multiple new cube releases every week that promise better performance, we lack many other tools and platforms to keep cubing entertaining. Expanding the competitive side of cubing could be beneficial, similar to the online video game community, where you can have fun and compete at almost every skill level without needing to be a super high-level pro player, making things much more enjoyable. Perhaps cubing could achieve this with different competitive environments, tiers, and event categories-I don't know. Smart cubes seem to be a good way of doing it, but the platforms are still very limited.
Yeah, there are very few people who could possibly break the world record nowadays because of how fast they are. I like the idea of tiers in competitions, it would make sure that your only going against the people who are at a similar speed to you and therefore not everyone is bundled into the same group which can be way too fast for most cubers.
Well Cubehead and Tingman did slow down making content but they are making it better.
Yeah, maybe this is the reason why
0:22 led* not lead btw
I haven't watched the entire video yet, but I think it's not true.
There are much more competitions than ever before. TH-camrs can stop uploading videos, but cubing goes on...
We can see how competitors get on such a high level that it was unimaginable a few years earlier. It also means that the puzzles are much better than ever before, so there is no need to give out new puzzles one after one.
I would like to see a new good 3x3 and 2x2 but there are millions of them already, so we have so much opportunities now.
It also means that companies have a much, much harder level to reach if they want to make a new cube, so they can't develop new ones quickly.
I think it would be more fun to make 8x8 and some other puzzles WCA event to make it more interesting. It never saw the point of clock, pyraminx and skewb events but they exist for some reason. We could refresh WCA now to keep the peace and change some stupid rules.
Also, scrambling robots (for a cheap price) would be nice to see in the near future to avoid scrambling by ourselves because it's so 2007...
6x6 reached a ridiculous level that we couldn't imagine. Even gigaminxes are on a higher level than a 5x5 a few years ago.
There are many useless things - mostly in gan cubes - that exist to blind cubers and pay more for nothing, but the puzzles are now much more fun than before.
Everyone moves on by time, but new cubers always show up and there are more and more as humanity grows. The only problem is the price... $47 in 2016 was extremely high and now we can't buy top cubes under $50. O.o
Yeah, cube companies have no chance of developing cubes quickly because of how much has to go into them to try and seem new and innovative.
Yeah maybe the WCA needs to change some rules but I don't know what that would be.
Haha, scrambling robots would be useful in competition formats but for at-home practice I think for the time being just scrambling my hand is the best way.
The price of cubes is getting a little bit ridiculous, there is no way they need to be that expensive.
your turning is way too harsh btw. it looks like you're locking up every turn which means you need to setup the cube differently
Yeah I agree
personally i think so there isnt really much to cover in cubing now and the records are getting harder and harder to break i’ve not been cubing much anymore i only cube when i just am bored and pick up a cube and i dont even time solves
Yeah I agree, for a 'creator' it's harder for us to make content when there isn't as much to talk about.
Honestly, cubing is nowhere NEAR dead. Theres probobly hundreds of thousands or even millions of people who cube. I dont think its going to die anytime soon
Interesting point. I based this video on the views people has on the r/cubers reddit and what they were feeling. I guess people don't show their enjoyment for something as much as people share their disliking to it.
@@UK_Cuber yea people tend to be more frustrated by annoying stuff than happy about good stuff
Definitely.
Cubing never dies its something inside of u thrilling to go forward
Let's hope so, but I do think that people are loosing that thrill and they prefer to watch someone else cubing. Not sure though!
Swagridcubing made a response video
Yeah, very good video from him. Perfectly countered everything I said.
Bro, I enjoyed it, but there have been MANY interesting releases
Maybe, personally I haven't seen people being overly exiting about cubes anymore. But who knows!
> cubers haven't posted videos in 6 months
> CUBING IS DYING
pls
Haha, it might seem like this but I think the other evidence layers up.
What about the WRM V9\
Not sure, to be honest ever since I stopped cubing, I haven't been looking at the new releases all too much.
We need new creators for this community! Let's start making videos!
I'll do my best
Yes, good luck in trying!
i dont think lack of new cubes is necessarily a problem because they're all so good that improvement in hardware is unnecessary (except squan)
It's not a problem in terms how it influences the turning and performance but it does impact how much people are interested in the hobby. For me, I used to find keeping up with the specific cubes and the new releases really interesting and it was one of the reasons I enjoyed the hobby so much.
@@UK_Cuber ah mb
All good!
Feel like there are a lot of reasons. Here are my thoughts:
1. The hype of new cubes are just not the same, a few years ago magnetic levatation was actually pretty huge, or remember when they introduce magnets into cubes that allowed for so many possibilities. Now it's like you are more annoyed with the fact that the cube's magnets are strong as heck ( weilong v9) then the cube itself.
2. There's nothing new with cubing. All the algs or tricks are posted on youtube already, I feel like people upload cube opening more than actually make videos dedicted to algs or something.
3. Time itself. Nothing stays forever, the hype eventually dies down.
Yeah I fully agree with you here.
Cube companies are clearly running out of innovations which is a shame because it was really fun to watch new and exiting releases.
It would be nice to see people focusing more on new algorithms and tricks but viewers just don't find this as engaging and therefore it won't get the same views (and money for the creator).
Yeah whilst it's sad, cubing has been around for a very long time so maybe it could die down for a while.
@@UK_Cuber I mean there is only so much you can add to a cube, it’s so packed already
1:38 i dont mean to add shame but just leaving my thoughts as asked! feel like out of everything, this is my least favorite completely opinion based view about the community in the video. within the same paragraph cited from the 5 year prediction post itself, they stated that the community has been putting too much onus on the best cubers to **keep breaking more impossible records** instead of **just being the best cubers of the time**, let alone publicizing everything else exciting about the cubing community. regardless, changing and shifting focus, within or without the cubing community, is perfectly cool.
Yeah, I can understand this. The records can't keep getting broken because there will be a point where you simply can't get faster.
No Cubing just Started
Cubing has been around for a long time at this point!
@@UK_Cuber yeah but what i mean with that is that cubing will probably keep evolving at a certain point
Yes I agree, but this poses the question of how far you can push it. There's a certain point where the WR's can't get any faster.
@@UK_Cuberbut we are not really there yet, especially that a new generation of cubers is coming. I'm sure Yiheng Wang will get a sub 3 solve in a competition in the future. Big cubes are also not fully pushed to the limit yet, and also blindfold events.
I 100% agree with this video nowadays people prefer watching other people cube 😢
Yes, it seems like videos of others cubing is more enjoyable to people than doing it themselves. It's probably down to how engaging some creators make their videos which completely contrasts how basic and repetitive cubing can sometimes be.
@@UK_Cuber hey do you have any tip on how I can be sub 30 consistently I some time get sub 30 solve but not consistent can you give some tips plz
For me the biggest thing was to fully predict the cross during inspection time, this starts the solve in the best way and ensures you don't pause within the first couple of seconds.
@@UK_Cuber do I have to learn full PLL or 2 look PLL is enough
I would recommend learning most of the PLL's, apart from the ones that are least common (I still don't know full PLL).
DONT LET THE FLAME DIE OUT
Haha, hopefully it won't
agreed, i've quit cubing, but still like it :)
Interesting, what was it that made you quit. (Curious to see if its similar to me)
Kinda just did other stuff instead of cubing, i go back to it every now and then tho.@@UK_Cuber
Yeah that makes sense.
I'm 41 and I'm more into collecting budget cubes that made significant impact to cubing community like ylm, qiyi ms, rs3m 2020. I just enjoy cubing but not into competing
ill break a world record
Good luck with that one!
dont need luck
Haha
Please learn doubleflicks 😭
2021 ❤
I thought Shortcat sounded a lot like Jperm!!
Yeah!
First of all
There has been more Comps, Newcomer and overall Competitors last year
Secondly, a barrier in World Record is the opposite of Hypedeath but a boost of hype
Take Max's 3,13 the hype about it was crazy
Btw to your Point of cubes releases
Moyu brought out some tough competition to Gan
Also the Ball Core Big cubes are coming in.
Life just doesn't only depends on 3x3
A new event such as Skweb would not help to make every equally good
There would be invented new advanced methods if not already existing.
And Pleas stop this talk about another Format.
1v1s are in cases like Clock cup or Monkey League fun to watch, but they are no way of fair competition
Let's actually argue about this 😊,
Ok so yes, there might be more people attending competitions now and the hype around Max's world record was pretty big. However the WR is likely not going to be broken for a long time again and so the hype soon dies out. Personally I think that people mostly care about the releases in 3x3 and the advance in technology in those cubes but I do understand your point about big cubes receiving some good improvements.
I don't think the new events like skweb would help because people will naturally be so much faster than others. But on a new format, I do genuinely think there would be a good way to make this interesting, fun to watch, and fair.
@@UK_Cuber well, the WR of Yu shengdou (I hope I don't misspelled) was doubted to ever be broken since it was so ahead of his time
And jet we sitting here
also I think a Format change would make the things more complicated.
In general id prefer that many people should care about all events more than just 3x3
I think that people caring about more than 3x3 would be good yet you have to imagine how many people learn 3x3 just to be able to say they can solve a rubik's cube whilst not actually caring about the hobby too much more than that.
@@UK_Cuber yeah but what would you probably change in the cubes
There's basically no optimization possible
Yeah, cube companies can't find anything to improve anymore.
What if instead of clickbaiting that cubing died, you start innovating new exciting cubing content ? I do agree with the statement about the wca, it feels kind of dry to have 3x3 as a ao5 round of 16 every single championship. Cubing is also at a peak of competitors so cubing is definetly getting a lot of recognition
Interesting, I think that for a video to be clickbait it has to deceive the viewers, but I'd argue that I backed up the title and thumbnail (might be bias though!) I didn't realise that competitions are peaking right now but that is a good point.
jperm uploaded a vid?
Yes (this video was scripted, recorded and edited before that video was released). But apart from the video, the previous one was over six months ago.
I completely agree with you some might argue there’s more competitions than ever but jperm brodythecuber cubing encoded and maybe soon cubehead have quit
I hope they come back because they were some of the best creators within this space (especially Jperm) but it's not looking good at the moment.
I thought j perm came back but then he left again:(
no it is not, what on earth, you are wrong. it is still alive. and also i average the same as you. :D
Yeah maybe, but from the research I did on r/cubers, it was clear that many others also had the same opinions to me.
I thought this was one of those joke videos....
Opps, my bad. I hope you got some value from it though!
@@UK_Cuber Not trying to hate on you as a person or your other content, just the way it was spoken in the beginning, and because of the major hype for new cubes that revolved around 2022-2024, sorry if I came off as hostile, just thought you were actually joking. Opinions are opinions 👍
@@xp.wesley858 That's all good!
Betteridges law of headlines
Interesting, I think using a question in the title is more about how to ensure TH-cam viewers will relate to a video and are therefore will be more likely to want to watch and interact with it, but I'm ok with your opinion.
@@UK_Cuber I do agree that cubing youtube is pretty dead but competitions are doing better than ever, out of the top 10 weeks with most competitions, 9 have been after autumn 2023 and 3 are in January/February 2024.
I didn't know that but without good TH-cam content, I find cubing can get a little boring.
WHAT ARE TOU TALKING ABOUT?!
Haha, I'm going to assume you don't agree with any of my points?
Speed cubing is not really dead though the Gan 13 and 14 and 12 were such a big disappointment 😢 and yiheng is dominating but people like Tymon will beat him and there is also some new kid from Russia who got an average 0.01 of feliks and you need to practice more often but I am assuming you do not have the time to practice 24/7 same here as you get older you sometimes just need to move on and with yiheng he will to eventually get bored and quit though he is obviously obsessed with this sport and people do want to improve a lot and it is very demotivateing when you don’t 😊
Yeah I agree with you.
The only way we can revive cubing is by making videos ourselves and reviving the Cubing community come on we can do this!
Haha, yeah we need to make better videos!
1) please learn lefty double flicks
2) 1:07 you did U' R U2 R' U' L U L' U L U' L' which is 12 moves
you can do L' U L U' L U L'
3) the pair right after that you should rotate to blue or green front and do
R' U R2 U' R'
or L' U L2 U' L both regripless and 2 moves less than what you did
fourth pair of same solve you should rotate and do R' U2 R U R' U' R it's not good to rotate in the middle of a pair
4) 1:31 for this pair you should do U2 F U' R U R' U F'
or rotate into triple inverse sexy move
Thanks, that's some great advice!
Yes ur baxk
Maybe, might be making more videos on this channel soon!
Dude this ain't gonna happen
Maybe... who knows.
But chances are low but no offence I love your vids😊
of course not
Ok... Did you want to let me know why you think that?!?
@@UK_Cuber I think cubing is not dead because there are more and more younger cubers cubing every day. If anything, the Cubing community is surviving and growing. Also, great video!!!
@@NikolasTheCuber Yeah maybe, but without new content being made, will these new cubers stay? And thanks!
Your on about nothing. Records are harder to break because they get lower. There have been a lot of more and exciting releases. And TH-camRS HAVE A LIFE. THEY DON’T ALWAYS HAVE TO DO TH-cam.
I agree but isn't it somewhat interesting that all of the biggest creators have slowed/stopped at the same time. Might show how it could be dying.
@@UK_Cuber i think thats more of a symptom of the fact that they have all been doing it for around the same length of time /longer than one another, hence are going to all start gaining other interests around the same time as well. Take the large number of old content creators around youtube who are slowing down / quitting uploads recently; is that evidence for youtube dying? no, its just that they have been in the business for a long time and want to move on. There are still a large number of cubing creators who are making content, just are less known due to saturation. The biggest problem i have with your view is how it seems you're projecting your own burnout / disinterest to the hobby to the community as a whole, and using a few reddit posts (likely from people who have been cubing as long as you have) and old content creators to confirm it.
apologies for the paragraph and a half :P
@@UK_Cuberno, they haven’t.
no
Ok...
This video is genius for the way it's made the comments section blow up! If this was your intention then I take my sweaty hat off to you sir 🫡
Haha, who knows. Maybe!