Empress Maria Theresa's Sons
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Maria Theresa was one of the most powerful women in history. Her husband and son got to hold the title of Emperor but she was the real power. She reformed and modernized her empire all while having 16 children, 5 of whom were sons. Despite their mother’s power, the boys were favored and educated to be leaders. 2 were Holy Roman Emperors who shared the ideals of enlightened reform though with very different results. One held a life-long grudge against his elder brother and one was Beethoven’s first patron.
In this episode:
Emperor Joseph II
Charles Joseph
Emperor Leopold II
Ferdinand, Duke of Breisgau
Maximilian Francis, Archbishop-Elector of Cologne
Sources:
en.wikipedia.org
www.britannica.com
To be a fly on the wall during Louis and Joseph's discussion on sex...
As soon as I read this comment I imagined a posh british gentleman with a cup of tea saying this.
@@tanjamijic5128 If only, lol! I'm a middle class female from New York who prefers a strong espresso. Your comment gave me a much needed chuckle. 😂
@@nomine4027 😄😄😄
How interesting
Actually, you can read some of the letters exchanged between Joseph II and others, including his mother the empress and co-regent Maria Therese, on his discussions with Louis. For example in one letter Joseph II wrote that:
_"...[Louis] 'had well-conditioned, strong erections and introduced his member, stayed there for two minutes without moving, withdrew without ejaculation, and then, still erect, wished [his wife] good evening. He should be whipped like a donkey to make him discharge in anger'. "_
"Here lies ...who failed at all he undertook" - I think I'll use this as my yearbook quote
Joanna S Sienkiewicz 🤣
LMAO same
Joanna S Sienkiewicz This will be on my urn.
Awesome!
same thooooo 😂
This woman must’ve had a glorious body to survive having SIXTEEN damn kids back then . Jesus
That and she was "Germanic". In royal circles back then, Germanic women were legendary for their breeding. I'm not sure how accurate this was. German royal families tended to be (on average) larger and more of their offspring survived into adulthood. This was the reason why that although the German-speaking part of Europe played a minor part in European power politics until the late 19th Century, almost every royal family had "German blood", mainly through female-oriented dynastic marriages.
I can't even imagine what that woman went through. I'm on the verge of fainting if I stub my toe.
German women are usually quite sturdily built and in good health, it’s no wonder their considered themselves the ‘superior race’ in WW2...
She was dummy thicc
after a week the dr said had he not been there the whole time for my pregnancy and delivery he would swear i had not had a baby a week before , lol i stop bleeding in a week and the womb is right back to normal , i have no flabby belly after either , i only had 6 , my mother 12 , i got divorced or i would have had a lot more too , my mother and sister both had two kids in 10 months , we are as fertile as the sides of the river Nile after the floods , lol , i actually was pregnant 9 times but i can not carry twins
If Maria Theresa had educated her daughters like she did her sons, Marie Antoinette probably wouldn't have lost her head. I still blame Maria Theresa for Marie Antoinette not being a great ruler.
LiveFree&LoveForever
I agree!
She was young and naive to know what was happening in France
Catherine Parr ... I think she was just too immature to handle the differences from what she knew. That is no one's fault, but I also agree in part, because if she'd been taught politics it is possible that the revolution may have waited another generation to play out. Marie Antoinette was essentially sent into exile... away from all she held dear to promote the interests of her OLD home over that of her new one... and never once was she told otherwise. Poor girl, poor woman-child....
citrine dragon No, what’s more relevant is the fact that an Austrian-French war had recently ended, so the French people really didn’t like Marie Antoinette for that, and Louis wouldn’t listen to anything she said about politics because she was Austrian.
No one educated Catherine the Great, but she somehow became one of the most enlightened and well-read women of the time. Self-education is a thing.
@@R00siable Catherine the Great had her mother-in-law as a supporter and mentor in the Russian court. Marie-Antoinette arrived to French court already disliked by many nobles simply for being Austrian. And the friends she did have were just that: friends. None were particularly powerful or well-versed in statecraft.
Do remember that the roles of Catherine and Marie were massively different. One was a ruling autocrat, one was a consort. Catherine got to call the shots and Marie-Antoinette, as a consort, was only supposed to make babies and look pretty. No one wanted her to rule anything or make decisions (well, no Frenchmen, the Austrians however expected her to push pro-Austrian policies which would only make her unpopular in France).
I must disagree, however. Marie-Antoinette did self-educate. After the birth of her first daughter she was not the same party girl who would dance the night away in Paris or be at the opera until three in the morning. When the revolution broke out Louis XVI was deeply depressed (actually, he was depressed even before due to several reasons: death of two children and the diamond necklace affair to name two). He became more indecisive than ever, and it was MA who sort of took the helm. She was the one who wrote to other kings and queens in Europe asking for support and she had correspondence with revolutionary leaders like Danton and the comte de Mirabeau.
I believe Josef's epitaph says: Here lies Josef, who meant well, but failed at every turn".
Ouch. That is brutal if true.
Many of his suggestions went well actually
He orderd this epitaph on his grave himself
I swear Maria Theresa and Victoria are two peas in a pod where parenting is concerned 😂
They were probably related. Everyone in the royal family was back then.
@@Monada79 Even though they were born over a 100 years apart...
@@ivylasangrienta6093 Unlikely as Maria Theresa's antecedents were catholic royalty, and Victoria's were Protestant. The two very rarely intermixed, in fact British royalty were forbidden by law to marry Catholics.
@@neilbuckley1613 I'm not sure how much history you know, but Maria Theresa had Protestant antecedents and Queen Victoria had Catholic antecedents (including Ferdinand and Isabella of Spain). During the 17th Century religious wars that plagued Europe, kings, princes, heirs, etc regularly changed religions or participated in mixed-marriages to retain or acquire power.
The act of the English parliament that barred Roman Catholics was in 1701. That would not affect bloodlines (or heirs/holders of the crown) prior to that point: of which many were Catholic and of which Victoria was descended.
Moreover, both female monarchs are distantly related through the House of Welf, of which the British royal family is heavily descended.
@@ivylasangrienta6093 yeah ....we all have relatives that lived 100 years apart.
The sons had more boring lives than their sisters, I must say.
Yes 😂🥰
True
Her grandsons had some wild stories though. Francis of course was the leader of Austria during the Napoleonic Wars, and his brother Archduke Charles was one of the VERY few generals to defeat Napoleon in battle before 1812 (though they again lost to the French after the BRUTAL 1809 Battle of Wagram).
I’ve been pregnant twice and they took everything out of me. I can’t even imagine being a breeding machine.
Too be fair he had a kingdom money's and the royal court to teach/groom them also the older siblings and other relatives would help.
@@alexandrub8786 I think Burgundybaby was referencing the physical toll placed upon the body.
I sometimes wonder if some of these royals didn't secretly use surrogates as is an accusation made about a more modern royal family
@@googleuser7454 No, women had no control over their bodies and unfortunately had no choice in the matter.
My grandpa on my mom’s side is a twin and twins run in his family
Poor Joseph. His life was so full of tragedy. He lost his own daughter, and two of his wives, When he's trying to help his own people, (which was quite good for todays standards) they were too stubborn.
The problem is, he wasn’t that good emperor. His intentions were good but he wanted too much in a very short time. His people hated him because he couldn’t connect with them and was unwilling to understand them. His reforms were seen as an affront to their way of life and their place in the world. Like so many “enlightened despots” he enforced his reforms but didn’t want to give up even a little of his power.
"Here lies Joseph II, who failed in all he undertook."
Damn... that's cold-blooded...
I believe Josef's epitaph says: Here lies Josef, who meant well, but failed at every turn".
Yeah your both right I think that he meant well but people were too ignorant to realise what was good for them
@@castellarois Damn the citizenry not knowing what's best for them!
**shakes fist**
Joseph was trying to give people first world rights and they were too ignorant to understand. He would’ve made a better leader in a different time😩
Just like President Trump today. People too ignorant to see what he does for them
Daisy Cocoa Yeah, no. Trump has done nothing but make a fool of himself and lie constantly. Don’t let a stimulus check fool you🙄
hayabusahime period
As a Jew, he was my favorite. He was one of few European rulers who was benevolent to the Jews and other non-Catholics and took care of the poor. My heart broke for him, too many tragedies. How I wished time travel existed so I could save his wife and daughters!
@hayabusahime Maybe watch something other than CNN for once and you'll see he's not that bad. That's all💁🏻♀️😁
Maria Theresa was an amazing figure, but it's weird how that she's a woman yet didn't encourage daughters to be leaders, favoring sons more
Peachs'nCreamPie typical pick me behavior 😂
It's the very definition of hypocrisy isn't it? "I'm a woman with unquestionable power and authority...but I'll raise my daughters to just be attractive and accommodating broodmares." 😩😩😩 People like to accuse her daughter Marie Antoinette of being this selfish, empty-headed woman who didn't care about anything but spending money and throwing parties. I'm not saying MA didn't do anything wrong, but I feel like her upbringing played a huge part in that. Outside of marrying whomever her mother told her to marry and making babies... what other motivations did she have in life? I'm not saying she was completely incompetent either but something tells me MA wasn't exactly raised to be a deep thinker with complex ideas.
The same can be said for Queen Victoria. She was a ruler of her country and yet she opposed women getting the vote. It's weird.
As a successful political leaders, she probably had a very good idea of just how far she could go without starting a violent revolution, and knew that her daughters would not be accepted as rulers especially since she had so many sons.
How is that "weird"?
That is the cognitive dissonance that is inherent in human beings. I had a VP of HR who didn't want to hire a property manager who "...was too old". The VP was 50+ and so was the candidate. I know people who were abused as children, but then turn around and abuse their children. I know a co-worker who was ostracized and made fun of as a kid growing up, but now does the same to others as an adult. I have a neighbor who is infuriatingly noisy every day and into the early morning hours, but then complained because another neighbor has his alarm clock go off for 1 minute every morning.
Self awareness is not a marked quality of human beings.
Now it's the sons time to shine! Still waiting on the grandchildren.
same
Mother: Gives her own son an Enlightenment education
His son: Acts upon that
Mother: No
_Fun Fact: Emperor Joseph II adored my music and relied on me to perform for the court 🙃_
Wasn’t he also a fan of Antonio Salieri?
@@emilykozak7249 _Yes, he made Salieri court composer, which I've longed for for a while. I cried the whole week.._
@@wolfgangamadeusmozart8177 Oh hey Mozart.
heyy mozart
"Ahh. Yes. Well.. There It Is."
they literally all look the same, even more than the daughters
Although there mother was not as inbred, they were still inbred from centuries of cousin incest. It is why they look so alike. They didn't have a problem continuing in the family.
Their parent were distant cousin so they weren't inbred.
Same face syndrome among the artists of the era. Pretty much everyone looked the same on the portraits. Facial features were probably altered to fit the aesthetic ideals of the time.
A study conducted on them said that most of the sons, except Joseph, took after their mother in looks. Joseph took after his father like most of his sisters.
@@blugaledoh2669 They are still inbred. Their parents are cousins through multiple lines.
Fun fact: Leopold was called "Peter" by his family
Because Peter the Great wanted him to be named after him
@@marketapolackova1093Leopold was born in 1747, Peter the Great died in 1725... It was Peter the Great's daughter, Elisabeth of Russia, Leopold's godmother, who wanted him to be called like her own father.
Because he was baptised "Peter Leopold"
Wow poor Isabella of Parma though, she was scared of dying in childbirth and then actually died in childbirth
All sons in a nutshell
Charles Joseph: You will have a bad time*dies*
Joseph: That will never ;3
Many years later
Joseph: 0_0 he was right*dies*
Leopold: I fix everything in only a short amount of time
Ferdinand: I was married before puberty and my wife is older than me -_-
Maximilian: Beethoven is a good guy he told me he has a gift for me
Next day
Beethoven: Max I finiss...........
Maximilian:*death*
I would love to see Lindsay talk about the sons and daughters of Paul The I of Russia or Alexander the II
Yes me too
I would like history of Russia czars or just on the romanovs
So Would I. It Would Be Interesting To See How Paul I Got Along With His Children,Particularly His Son And Heir Alexander(Emperor Alexander I) Because Paul Had A Very Dysfunctional Relationship With His Mother,Empress Catherine II(Catherine The Great) Because He Blamed Her For Killing His Father,Emperor Peter III,The Gaurds Loyal To Catherine Carried It Out,Because Peter Was Planning On Divorcing Catherine And Putting Her In A Russian Orthodox Monastery(As A Nun)Or Worse,Kill Her!!!
Alexander I Acquired A Very Consillitory People Pleasing Nature,Because He Loved And Wanted To Please Both Catherine The Great,His Grandmother And His Father Paul,Who Became Emperor On Mother's Death.
@@gregoryjones9546 I dont think Paul was close to any of his sons. Catherine took them away from him at birth and raised them herself.
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After seeing the video on Princess Lambelle I found a pic of her on line and bought it. She is my spirit guide now. She helps remind me that I too am a Queen or KING for my children if need be.
“Armed with his brother-in-law’s advice...”
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Leopold looks like a homunculus, but Florence is definitely one of the world's most beautiful cities.
fun fact. joseph the 2nd once commanded a battle against himself and lost fighting an enemy that didnt even turn up. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kar%C3%A1nsebes
He was his biggest enemy the whole time!
Joseph ii: i have enemy that's me
The names Leopold Joseph Charles and Maria: exist
Maria Theresa: I’LL TAKE YOUR ENTIRE STOCK
Please do all Kings , Kaisers and Chancellor's of Deutschland.
In history class they told us that while in France the revolution came from the lower classes while in Austria the Emperors forced a revolution from above on their unwilling subjects 😂
How did you give birth to 16 while ruling an empire??
By being a badass :)
Perseverance
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can you do a video of Napoleons siblings?
His brothers certainly had their share of adventures and misadventures (a few of them had more of the latter). Joseph was made King of Naples and then Spain (the latter hated his guts out), Louis was made King of Holland (and apparently introduced himself as their "rabbit" instead of their king because of him botching the Dutch language). Jerome was briefly given rule over Westphalia in Germany and a fourth brother got exiled IIRC. I don't know much about Napoleon's sisters, but I do know one of them married Joachim Murat (the legendary cavalry marshal) and the couple became Naples' new rulers after Joseph was moved to Spain.
I really admired Joseph for his impact on only on society in the Holy Roman empire so his policies were somewhat strict they did really did bring forth the art the enlightenment movement. I respect him a lot more for what he did for the arts encouraging and supporting composer such as Mozart Haydn and others. I also love howeach of the Habsburgs at least encourage the arts in a small way and how there influence really brought out certain composer's.
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Yaay got what I was waiting for a week
I backed off from the Maria Theresa video to watch this!
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Mozart wrote four operas for four separate emperors. As Lindsay mentioned, the young Mozart composed Ascanio in Alba for the wedding of Ferdinand Karl. Mozart also wrote “Il Re Pastore” for Maximilian’s visit to Salzburg in 1775. Joseph commissioned Mozart to write a German opera in 1782, so he wrote “The Abduction from the Seraglio”, and Mozart wrote the opera “La Clemenza di Tito” for the coronation of Leopold in September 1791. He died shortly after, on December 5th, 1791.
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Charles Joseph is sort of a badass. Challenging his brother's right to inherit and basically hinting on his deathbed at age 15 he would have gone to war with him over the empire (that's what I get from 'many more tears')
Great video, as always. Thank you!
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Great video. I hope that you'll do Catherine the Great of Russia next. She's one of my favorites
I just finished writing her's. It would be out in May.
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Great explanation superb video please do a video about Emperor Augustin I of Mexico Empress Ana Maria of Mexico and their children and grand children
Please do a video on the Rothschild family.
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Nele1208 Why that response? The Rothschilds were less horrible than the Romanovs. I am so glad those Romanovs were killed. Sure, the Rothschilds colonized Israel but they didn’t screw up half of two continents. Lesser of evils. Besides, the Rothschilds were better looking than most of these royal people. So glad that’s not the case anymore.
Very nice video and I hope to see other video for France I & leopold I & the history for the coins in this time
Wow it's true u do learn something new every day keep u the good work I look forward to more wonderful videos
This was very interesting. Ty.
I just love your videos so much!
Can you do a video on catharine the great?
Thanks for the video! Very interesting! 🤔🧐
Great video as always. Could you do a video of the medici family tree? Would be really interesting
You do good work
I wish you were the one to narrate the documentaries I had to watch in high school, your voice is so soothing.
She survived with 16 pregnancy
Wow
great video! can you do one on Christian IX of Denmark?
Can you please do a video on the Teutonic Knights/Order? I know it isn’t Royal but it’s really cool 👀👀
Very interesting video.I like the most Leopold.
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Please do a video on Empress Maria Feodorovna and Queen Alexandra
Skilled as artists in the past were, especially painting fabrics, clothing and furnishings, it did not extend to depicting children, who all look like miniature adults. Maybe this was deliberate.
I feel like it must have been deliberate, or the artists took extreme, though unintentional, liberties
Hi ! I enjoyed watching the video of Maria there's sons !
I did not expect to hear of my birth city (Bonn) in this video. Twice at that!
Karl Joseph would have, if he had reached adulthood, inherited Tuscany from his father, while Peter Leopold would have married Maria Beatrix.
How about the brothers and sister of Napoleon?!
very interesting
Can you make some videos about the remaining monarchs of The Middle East, Asia, and Africa
What was with the name Maria? Don’t get me wrong, I like the name but how many times does a family need to use it with every daughter. The only difference is using a completely different middle name but still. Every daughter/granddaughter of Maria Theresa we came across was named Maria something, it’s crazy. Don’t get me wrong any of the Maria’s watching, it’s a beautiful name, it’s just crazy how it’s so popular with this family tree.
They used it to show the families reverence of the Virgin Mary "Marie".... As Catholics it was vital that they showed their piety!
Catholics usually give their children saint and biblical names, this also includes middle names. Example, Peter(name) Francis(middle name) Courgette (last name). Peter the name of a biblical apostle and Francis the name of a Catholic saint.
Reverence of the Virgin Saint Mary. The name was perceived as holy or even lucky.
I don't think that guy would have liked what was written in his obituary "Here lies Ferdinand... who failed at all he undertook".
Please do a video on Desiree Clary-Bernadette! Love the book by Anne Marie Selinko but know it's a little off what really happened.
Please do a video about the Empress' grandchildren
My mother named me after Maria Teresa and Marie antoinette. I am Teresa Antoinette. And I'm very honoured by that.
Nice
Joseph II writing and change rule everything and forget to think again.
Joseph: oh! I forgot about that.
Any books that you recommend on this family?
Is there a way to add a snippet on Joseph II's patronage of Mozart? I don't think I saw mention.
She mentioned it briefly near the beginning
Where does that music come from? I love it
Please can you make a video about the first king of Belgium
I would love videos on the Chinese imperial families or even the Japanese royals.
He should do biography of me but not Yang Guifei
Are you going to do her Grandchildren
Maria Theresa had 16 children and the last one was when she was 39, my aunt had a child at 45
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well the male line of the Medici as such are gone yes , no one alive called Medici, but since all europes lines have Medici in them , we are not completely gone , we just have other surnames , there are a lot of us Medici descent , and Habsberg too , although that line did not breed its self out completely, god knows how ?
I saw a cookbook about 20 years ago written by last name Medici a lady rather large book she claimed a title in the book it's beautiful pictures just thought that might be interesting
I like this so much my mum told me about you an I love it
Under Leopold II, why is his wife listed as his husband?
Joseph II was a friend and brief patron of Mozart
Please do a Video about the moroccan Royals, Second oldest dynastie in the world
Love you familia!
8:10 he looks like that "damn I look like Mona Lisa" girl 🤣
I'm curious bout what their real hair colors are.
The two things that destroyed HRE smallpox and Napoleon