ECU or the alternating wires or alternator. Your mechanic will give you some other BS, telling you its alternating wiring, alternator or your ECU. you can get second hand ECU from UK for cents on the dollar my triumph friend. I have 3 ecu sitting at home ready to get subbed in.
This is my very first bike that I’ve actually owned. Bought it two months ago, took two weeks to get paperwork and registration set, and two weeks later it died while I was riding home from work and have had no luck diagnosing anything yet
08 and 09 triumphs have electric problems. Voltmeter will tell you if the voltage is low and getting drained. Ie volts drop below 13 or 12, bike wont start Check the alternating wiring isn't fried (mine were fried and were the cause of bike not starting after I changed out the ECU. CHECK WIRING before changing ECU.
Dlenny Lenny what were the symptoms of this issue? My bike is getting power and will crank but won’t turn. Had it connected to a battery tender and still won’t turn over.
Good luck finding an 890 in a dealer. Apparently they only released very limited quantities. The 790, on the other hand, you can get for around $8k now.
I think the 890 duke is better than the 790 in almost every way. The suspension, brakes, handling and engine is far superior. There should be a larger price gap between the two, right now it's only a $1,000 difference. At that point, most people will go for the 890. Also, are you sure the 890 weighs 375 lbs WET? I thought it was in the low 400's (406 lbs).
I bought a 790 little over a year ago and though it was fun in small doses.. it was awful for commuting, long rides, and just everyday use. It couldn't hold a slow speed without freaking out, you had to slip the clutch everywhere in traffic. It shook like a leaf at high speeds, and the riding position had you holding on like a windsock. I really wanted to love it but it was a chore to ride and after a few months the headgasket started leaking oil.. So now I own the street triple. Little less torque which is a bit sad, but yeah almost no complaints in comparison. Hear the 890 is a lot better though.
Good info thanks. I'm looking for a semi-permanent old-man naked bike for my retirement. The 790/890 are cool looking but I don't need more maintenance. I think I'll just get a CB650R so I can just ride it forever without worrying about anything but oil and tires and valve adjustments. That is, if anyone ever gets any in stock again.
@@CarpaccioSalad To be fair, it was a very fun bike when you just wanted something that feels like a big supermoto, though an MT09 can do that at less cost. It would also be a great bike if you live near twisty roads and didn't have to spend highway time to get there. But the negatives definitely stick out if you ride it daily, in commutes. And and I'm contractually obligated as a triumph owner to say I still married to my striple btw. It's the best.
@@progste as "electronics" include the quickshifter and trackmode (allows you to disable anti wheelie) I do, and so should you. Or do you never want to do a wheelie on a 121hp naked?
@@NicoBiturbo i don't care about the qs, but locking wheelies is a low blow. Well, I don't usually wheelie anyway, there are much more interesting things you can duke with a duke 890r, but seeing as 'muhricans only have straight roads I can see why they would want it.
I'm a sports bike kinda guy, so by adding woodcraft's clip-on kit to the 790 was pure joy with the addition of a tinted small screen and if you squint real hard whilst tucked in, you can almost see yourself riding the unicorn RC790.
@@FrankFurther Guess your not in India 😅, here it's just too darn cheap compared to the Hondas, the Suzuki's and even Yamaha themselves. It's just hilarious how cheap they are. The Italians are impossibly expensive. Guess we are lucky that the bikes are home made here. Dealership is half a mile away 😁. Wrong country to own a KTM I guess. Though I feel for you. You guys get the top spec stuff though. We always get toned down versions.
I was hesitating about buying the 890 Duke because all the stories about fiability failures of KTM. But the dealer offered me a very good price and I pulled the trigger. First 5.000km and I'm in love with this bike, is so light, agile and stable that you can use with confidence all the explosive power and torque that this brillant motor has. After first service I bought the tech pack that bring track mode and quickshifter+, the same electronics of the R model, and the bike becomes a beast. It always put a big smile on my face!
I'm using 2019 MT-07 and planning to upgrade it to Duke 890 nowadays. I'm a daily rider from home to work in busy city traffic (Istanbul) and wondering if 890 is overkill for my needings. The durability issues make me sick, but we only live once :)
@@cemozcan3630 for this kind of use the standard model or the GP (less sporty and more confortable position) are more suited than the R model. The lightness and agilty of the bike makes it really easy to go througth traffic, but it’s a torque/powerful motor that always want to jump to high rpm. It feels better in a twisty road or in a empty street that in heavy traffic. I use to ride my brother's Teneré 700 (same motor as MT-07), the difference in power and torque is noticiable, but the Duke 890 in rain mode (less powerful and more smooth response) feels near to the Yamaha. I also use the bike to commute but in 30km of mountain twisty roads and just a few kms of urban traffic, the 890 Duke makes it easy.
I feel like this video was made for me haha. I just yesterday picked up a 2019 duke 790 off the showroom floor for a pretty comfortable price. So far I’m very happy with my purchase. It’s the first bike I’ve owned with over or anywhere near 100hp. It absolutely scared the hell out of me haha. Thanks papa yam for the top quality content!!!
You say the 690r came out in 2012 but show a 2010 model. The 08 690 you show is a 2014 model. The 690 continued production til 2019, with a redesigned head in 2016. The 890r and 790 are the same bike in the same way the stripple s, r and rs are the same bike. They all share the same frame and engine cases with different internals and suspension/ brakes. I'm not sure why you're so caught up on displacement...
I’m not sure. I’m a 5’5 woman, and I think the seat height of the 790 is about the max I could handle. It’s still really lightweight, and I’m thinking the 890 might be overkill for my second motorcycle. I really like the Duke, and how light it is.
I have a 390 that I ride 120 miles to the track then ride on the track heavily for 3 hours then ride back to the city in tropical weather. Try doing that to a Japanese bike something will fail. KTM is built for track and street use so it mostly fails if you DIY it without really knowing how to do the work on your own but KTMs of today are super reliable.
I always wanted a KTM and have had my 2019 390 Duke for a year an a half now. I ride it daily to work and cruising on Sunday. Just rolled 4000 miles. To say I love it is a huge understatement. Eventually I’ll upgrade to the 790 but now I’m contemplating the 690 SMC. Thanks, Spite!!
Having ridden motorcycle,s for50+ years just purchased a390 duker causes much discomfort in my facial muscles constant cramping from smiling and feeling such joy being able to brake much later and hold wfo longer ouch ouch it hurt s!🤣
@@alex5761 I have almost 12,000 miles. I must be fortunate to not have any problems so far. I am aware KTM might not be as reliable as the Japanese competition but the pros outweigh the cons with the 890. I keep my bikes in top shape. I avoid the dealer when I can and wrench myself. This is just my own experience. I cannot speak for everyone else. I recommend the machine.
C T probably not all 890 have problems!!! Glad you’re having a good experience!!! Im probably gonna go with that one also!!! Thank you very much!!! Ride safe
yeaaahhh. i'm hooked with the orange. My first bike was a 125 duke, i'm now on a 390 duke and as much as I want to try a different brand of bike i'm pretty much certain that i'm going for a 790 for my next bike.
@शिरीष ರಾಮಾಯ Nah, I don't have the need for the extra power or adjustability of the 890, nor do I want the cost of insurance. 490 is not as much power as I'd like. 790 is in the sweet spot for me.
MT-09 you can ECU flash, pick up 10 hp. Z900 you can ECU flash, pick up 10 hp. KTM you can....... bolt on 3 piggyback modules and get much less done. Street Triple RS you can........ bolt on 3 piggyback modules and get much less done.
Hey papa yam, I recently bought my first bike last week (2015 R3). I’ve been watching you for about 2 years now and you really helped me in starting out in my riding journey. Thank you.
Owned the 2018 SDR 1290 for over 2 years now and it's the bike I've owned the longest, zero complaints and will never trade in for another bike. But I only use like maybe 70% of it's full potential at best, you're totally better off getting an 890R for street use, unless you're running track days. STILL, having that insane torque on tap is addicting and I love the styling, I couldn't bear to trade it in for an 890r.
ST 765 was gonna be my for-sure buy, then I saw the 890 R. About the same HP (give or take 1-2), way more torque, lighter, better (IMO) looking, close to the same price after tech pack (tsk tsk KTM and all that upgrade garbage)...KTM was a no-brainer. >3k miles on mine now :D
I had the 390 duke, enjoyed it until about 550 miles into it the oil light turned on while riding. I shut it off immediatly and trailered it in to the dealer. It turns out the oil pick up screans were plugged with metal shavings. Two months later they finished rebuilding the motor just in time for winter. I put 600 miles on it in the snow covered roads of colorado. At that seconed first service it had the same problem. They changed the oil and said put a thousand miles on and change it again to see what it does. I road it like i stole it for a thousand miles and it did the same thing but less metal. I traded for the 790 straight away and have been very happy since. I think if the 390 had the power of a crf 450 it would be great
Guys so just you know. The clutch is not a magura hydraulic clutch. It's a cable clutch. That being said, I own one of these and i totally, totally love the thing.
Yam I had a 390 (2016) sold it and now have a similar engine or the same but with an Indian body. Yes the Indian manufacturer Bajaj who has a 48 percent stake in the KTM consumer products has developed a bike for the Indian masses. Same performance. Different and comfortable riding style naked sports beginner. Bajaj Dominar 400. There are articles published offline and online regarding the Siberian cross country odessey of this motorcycle travelling kilometers and kilometers across the globe in order to pinch the Harley and Royal Enfield durability. Pls check it out. The cost is $2000 MSRP
I haven't seen this kind of content in a while.. it really takes me back daddy Yams, as a KTM Fanboi I whole heartedly agree with your points on KTM and their bikes.
Well, I genuinely like how their supermotos look... I have since I was a kid. And since their older designs are stylistically similar to what most major brands are releasing this year I guess that market verified MY SUPERIOR TASTE 1:0
There is also the duke 790l with 95hp on which you can decrease the power to 48hp. Doing so makes it legal to ride for owners of the european a2 license, who want to upgrade to an unregulated license later on. So now you dont have to switch you bike.
Yes and no. Husky was actually the one to come up with the better counterbalanced LC4 engine which KTM then adopted from them. This is seen from the fact that the 2017 701 already had the smoother engine, but took KTM until 2019 to get it. Husky is also the only one of the two offering the "LR" version of the 690/701 enduro. As of this year KTM did give the Husky the quick shifter for their 701. So it really goes both ways.
I got a 2020 890, I got a 5 year warranty that covers the entire bike for 5 years, backed by KTM, so im not too worried about the reliability issue. (and it already had some problems) But it is such a fun bike, best bike ive ever owned.
The front on the 890 is actually not “fully” adjustable - there’s no preload adjustment. Which is no good. I mean, man, either give me a bike that I don’t have change the suspension on or don’t.
minute 6.30 >>> 890 was introduced because 790 was not euro5 (pollution standards). Many towns in Europe make u pay an annoying tax for anything that is not euro 5 (Check - London ULEZ & congestion charge around 20-30$/day). Therefore, KTM moved fast and adapt but didn't want to lose power due to the euro5 exhaust filter and increased the engine size to recover the lose of power ....
I bought the first, and probably only , ktm Duke in 1995 in Texas. Beautiful wheels and very unique....buuuttt...riding lime creek rd it would die while braking for turns. Stupid crap carb ! And it was a left side kick only. No electric start. Was able to auction the P.O.S. off in Dallas. Swore off the brand. Until I rode a superduke 990 in 2008 at cresson trackday. The most fun track bike for me during that time. Bought one and have owned 990 superduke..2 990 Smts. Great and reliable bikes now with usable fun engines. I'll buy another just not sure which model next. Great informative video sir.
I had money down on a Aprillia.....660.... The dealer is 3 hours away from me. I read they have to reset the check engine light when you change the oil .. What a wonderful bike though... I backed out....this might be the right solution for me...
I just bought a 1290, and haven't had it long enough to really come up with any niggles. Except the orange. I get the importance of branding, but they could take a leaf from the Japanese manufacturers book when in comes to having options which aren't festooned in the corporate colours.
Just so you know, they aren't ENTIRELY moving the bikes to china. There will Chinese made ones that have some cheaper components cause not everyone needs Brembo brakes and top of the line suspension. All of the bikes (to my knowledge) will still be made in Austria with top grade parts for the people that want to pay the premium.
@@stevenfxgp the 790 is unbelievable. Even with its stock exhaust it's louder than a superduke with sport exhaust. Every time you roll off the throttle it starts shooting flames like crazy 😍 and the quickshifter is super fun and makes the bike backfire every time you shift
They made the KTM 790 because you can restrict it to be A2 compliant, and there you have the most technologically advanced A2 bike that has torque and it is affordable as well :)
EuroBros unite! Our bikes are stereotypical, our bikes are temperamental, our bikes are often unreliable, but we are passionate about them! Now I’m off to take out a 2nd mortgage on my cardboard box for Desmo services.
As the owner of a '17 FZ-09 I'm triggered by your lack of showing the updated model in your comparo. Thanks, now I want an 890 Duke because I'm already hairy and gross
Great work on comparisons! I have my second Super Duke. No other bike like it. My other bike is a MV Agusta Dragster 800rr Pirelli Edition. No other bike like it. Triples and V2’s are unique. The Beauty and the Breast!
@@alex5761 zero issues so far. I did about 3000km on it. The 890R is great. It's so light and nimble. Great fuel economy as well. My biggest complain is the size of the fuel tank. I would have preferred a few more liters. My previous bike was a super Duke 990R 2009. That bike was more extreme, more difficult to ride.
Hilarious. Love it. And yes, I have drunk the Kool-Aid, now owning a (fantastic) Duke 890R. By the way, the headlight looks like an alium? Alien? Keep up the great videos! 😎👍
The first generation 390Duke in India did not come with a TFT screen. It came with an underbelly exhaust with the dirty ,gritty note. It was a hooligan !
Wow, there's some wrong info in this video. The 790 and 890 are around 400 lbs wet, not 383 and 375, the weight difference between the two comes from the fact that the 890 doesn't have pillion pegs or passenger seat installed when you buy it (but it does come with it). The 890 has 119 hp with 73 ft lbs, not a huge difference but you stated 79 ft lbs. Also the 890 (and 790) have cable clutches, not hydraulic.
Sounds like a overall better bike but reliability is a big one for me since I'm not technologically gifted enough to do any major work on my own. Also z900 is pretty heavy. Street triple is expensive so would probably still stick to the new mt 09 sp with the cruze control.
YOU are "the Guy" I have been searching for when it comes to helping me decide on buying a KTM. It is so great to hear the history. WELL DONE, son!! I liked and subbed.
Yammie... We NEED a total and comprehensive overview of duke 890r VERSUS Triump Sreet Triple RS 765... Which one if you have 14k would you buy. Best overall. Street, track, summer, overall, etc etc etc.
We all know that if papa yam had put the sv650 on the list of comparison, the duke would have put in it's resignation letter telling everyone it surrenders to the better man.
I have a friend that bought at 890 Duke R first ride the crankshaft seal leaked and something else went wrong I can't read what it was. The bike shifted like s*** so I took it back to the dealership and they denied any thing was wrong with it. Pissed off and disappointed he's going to sell the 890 Duke R. He is a experienced rider and this wasn't his first KTM.
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Hell yes I do
Got $30 off on the Aussie Manscape site thats Yammie
The KTM Tank is Steel Dude, just has the plastic trim around the lower third.
What about bmw f900r?
I used to work with a guy who left to go work for KTM. His name is Kyle. KTM: Kyle Transportation Machines.
I feel called out 😅
my 09 daytona currently wont start due to an electrical issue so i feel personally attacked by this video
ECU or the alternating wires or alternator. Your mechanic will give you some other BS, telling you its alternating wiring, alternator or your ECU. you can get second hand ECU from UK for cents on the dollar my triumph friend. I have 3 ecu sitting at home ready to get subbed in.
I have an 09 street triple, she's like an Italian mistress, cheats on my electrically and I just accept it like the triumph noob I am
This is my very first bike that I’ve actually owned. Bought it two months ago, took two weeks to get paperwork and registration set, and two weeks later it died while I was riding home from work and have had no luck diagnosing anything yet
08 and 09 triumphs have electric problems.
Voltmeter will tell you if the voltage is low and getting drained. Ie volts drop below 13 or 12, bike wont start
Check the alternating wiring isn't fried (mine were fried and were the cause of bike not starting after I changed out the ECU.
CHECK WIRING before changing ECU.
Dlenny Lenny what were the symptoms of this issue? My bike is getting power and will crank but won’t turn. Had it connected to a battery tender and still won’t turn over.
Yammie: there no other duke better for a beginner than the 390
Duke 125: *sad noises*
I have an duke 125 and I have to say its kinda slow
XD
I have a duke 200 and it took me a whole 2 months to get used to its power and feel it was slow :(
@@tryxanel my last bike was 50cc so it felt kinda powerful at first
Kakka Pyttynen yeah it’s hella slow but in England u can only get a 125 till ur 19
Lets just say that the first bike I took on the road after MSF was a rented Duke 390... and I found myself buying a KTM as my first bike.
What bike did u get
same now I have a 790 duke
I was looking at a Honda Rebel 500 but then saw the KTM 390 and now the KTM is going to be my first bike.
@@EFarey how do you like it?
Just bought a 790 in the UK...I got a massive discount and paid 7000 pounds for it. Its awesome 😍
Congratulations for your scalpel
Thats a steal!
I got mine for the same price. Fucking amazing bike!
I had one parked next to me today. Sick looking bike 🥵
How did u get the discount
Good luck finding an 890 in a dealer. Apparently they only released very limited quantities. The 790, on the other hand, you can get for around $8k now.
I think the 890 duke is better than the 790 in almost every way. The suspension, brakes, handling and engine is far superior. There should be a larger price gap between the two, right now it's only a $1,000 difference. At that point, most people will go for the 890. Also, are you sure the 890 weighs 375 lbs WET? I thought it was in the low 400's (406 lbs).
the 890 is the bike ktm should have released in 2018.
Yep, weighs a little more than a MT-07.
Well there's a reason a lot of 790s in dealers are actually selling for around 8-9k
@@ajorsomething4935 What would that be, pray tell..
But still the 790 weighs a lot less, which makes it a better handler than 890
I bought a 790 little over a year ago and though it was fun in small doses.. it was awful for commuting, long rides, and just everyday use. It couldn't hold a slow speed without freaking out, you had to slip the clutch everywhere in traffic. It shook like a leaf at high speeds, and the riding position had you holding on like a windsock. I really wanted to love it but it was a chore to ride and after a few months the headgasket started leaking oil.. So now I own the street triple. Little less torque which is a bit sad, but yeah almost no complaints in comparison.
Hear the 890 is a lot better though.
Good info thanks. I'm looking for a semi-permanent old-man naked bike for my retirement. The 790/890 are cool looking but I don't need more maintenance. I think I'll just get a CB650R so I can just ride it forever without worrying about anything but oil and tires and valve adjustments. That is, if anyone ever gets any in stock again.
Honestly this is the first time i've read an opinion like yours about the 790!
@@CarpaccioSalad To be fair, it was a very fun bike when you just wanted something that feels like a big supermoto, though an MT09 can do that at less cost. It would also be a great bike if you live near twisty roads and didn't have to spend highway time to get there. But the negatives definitely stick out if you ride it daily, in commutes. And and I'm contractually obligated as a triumph owner to say I still married to my striple btw. It's the best.
The 890 doesnt come with the same electronics... You have to pay to add some of the electronics the 790 has standard
I'd still take the 890, who cares about the electronics!
But good to point it out for those who care.
@@progste as "electronics" include the quickshifter and trackmode (allows you to disable anti wheelie) I do, and so should you. Or do you never want to do a wheelie on a 121hp naked?
@@NicoBiturbo i don't care about the qs, but locking wheelies is a low blow.
Well, I don't usually wheelie anyway, there are much more interesting things you can duke with a duke 890r, but seeing as 'muhricans only have straight roads I can see why they would want it.
@@progste if you dont care about qs you've never tried one
@@NicoBiturbo i tried the 790 one, it's okay but shifting manually is more fun.
I'm a sports bike kinda guy, so by adding woodcraft's clip-on kit to the 790 was pure joy with the addition of a tinted small screen and if you squint real hard whilst tucked in, you can almost see yourself riding the unicorn RC790.
That's awesome dude
They replaced the 790 with the 890 because the 790 doesn’t comply with European emissions standards. The 890 does.
The 390 Duke is insane and reliable even if it isn't, it's dirt cheap to fix
I just got a £500 bill for mine. The reg/rec went and fried half the bikes electronics.
@@FrankFurther Guess your not in India 😅, here it's just too darn cheap compared to the Hondas, the Suzuki's and even Yamaha themselves. It's just hilarious how cheap they are. The Italians are impossibly expensive. Guess we are lucky that the bikes are home made here. Dealership is half a mile away 😁. Wrong country to own a KTM I guess. Though I feel for you. You guys get the top spec stuff though. We always get toned down versions.
Oof o.o in Australia they not so cheap to fix :( but fun as hell to ride.
@@lingtondaniel lol, its cheap as f*** in india because is an indian motorcycle rofl
@@giorgio4660 👍🏼🙄
I was hesitating about buying the 890 Duke because all the stories about fiability failures of KTM. But the dealer offered me a very good price and I pulled the trigger. First 5.000km and I'm in love with this bike, is so light, agile and stable that you can use with confidence all the explosive power and torque that this brillant motor has. After first service I bought the tech pack that bring track mode and quickshifter+, the same electronics of the R model, and the bike becomes a beast. It always put a big smile on my face!
I'm using 2019 MT-07 and planning to upgrade it to Duke 890 nowadays. I'm a daily rider from home to work in busy city traffic (Istanbul) and wondering if 890 is overkill for my needings.
The durability issues make me sick, but we only live once :)
@@cemozcan3630 for this kind of use the standard model or the GP (less sporty and more confortable position) are more suited than the R model. The lightness and agilty of the bike makes it really easy to go througth traffic, but it’s a torque/powerful motor that always want to jump to high rpm. It feels better in a twisty road or in a empty street that in heavy traffic. I use to ride my brother's Teneré 700 (same motor as MT-07), the difference in power and torque is noticiable, but the Duke 890 in rain mode (less powerful and more smooth response) feels near to the Yamaha. I also use the bike to commute but in 30km of mountain twisty roads and just a few kms of urban traffic, the 890 Duke makes it easy.
I bought a Duke 390 6 months ago. Perfect beginner bike. Im giving the 390 2 more years max , after that I plan to upgrade to a 890 . In love with KTM
So what bike do you own now
I feel like this video was made for me haha. I just yesterday picked up a 2019 duke 790 off the showroom floor for a pretty comfortable price. So far I’m very happy with my purchase. It’s the first bike I’ve owned with over or anywhere near 100hp. It absolutely scared the hell out of me haha. Thanks papa yam for the top quality content!!!
Congrats, I happened to get my 2019 last August for a less comfortable price. I love it. It feels like it was made for me
I am an austrian myself and i must say: Oh boy did you pick the right backround music for this video :D
You say the 690r came out in 2012 but show a 2010 model.
The 08 690 you show is a 2014 model.
The 690 continued production til 2019, with a redesigned head in 2016.
The 890r and 790 are the same bike in the same way the stripple s, r and rs are the same bike. They all share the same frame and engine cases with different internals and suspension/ brakes. I'm not sure why you're so caught up on displacement...
yeah but why would Yammie Noob bother doing the slightest bit of research when he could just turn on his mic and start spouting nonsense
I’m not sure. I’m a 5’5 woman, and I think the seat height of the 790 is about the max I could handle. It’s still really lightweight, and I’m thinking the 890 might be overkill for my second motorcycle. I really like the Duke, and how light it is.
I have a 390 that I ride 120 miles to the track then ride on the track heavily for 3 hours then ride back to the city in tropical weather. Try doing that to a Japanese bike something will fail. KTM is built for track and street use so it mostly fails if you DIY it without really knowing how to do the work on your own but KTMs of today are super reliable.
"KTMs of today are super reliable" That's a must, LOL
I always wanted a KTM and have had my 2019 390 Duke for a year an a half now. I ride it daily to work and cruising on Sunday. Just rolled 4000 miles. To say I love it is a huge understatement. Eventually I’ll upgrade to the 790 but now I’m contemplating the 690 SMC. Thanks, Spite!!
Having ridden motorcycle,s for50+ years just purchased a390 duker causes much discomfort in my facial muscles constant cramping from smiling and feeling such joy being able to brake much later and hold wfo longer ouch ouch it hurt s!🤣
I enjoy my 890. It’s my favorite bike I ever had.
i want it as my next bike!! did you have issues with it so far?
@@alex5761 no sir. Nothing to report yet. I use it as a daily commuter.
C T how many miles did you put yet? They say most of issues like leaks and electronic failures come before the first service!!
@@alex5761 I have almost 12,000 miles. I must be fortunate to not have any problems so far. I am aware KTM might not be as reliable as the Japanese competition but the pros outweigh the cons with the 890. I keep my bikes in top shape. I avoid the dealer when I can and wrench myself. This is just my own experience. I cannot speak for everyone else. I recommend the machine.
C T probably not all 890 have problems!!! Glad you’re having a good experience!!! Im probably gonna go with that one also!!! Thank you very much!!! Ride safe
yeaaahhh. i'm hooked with the orange. My first bike was a 125 duke, i'm now on a 390 duke and as much as I want to try a different brand of bike i'm pretty much certain that i'm going for a 790 for my next bike.
@शिरीष ರಾಮಾಯ Nah, I don't have the need for the extra power or adjustability of the 890, nor do I want the cost of insurance. 490 is not as much power as I'd like. 790 is in the sweet spot for me.
MT-09 you can ECU flash, pick up 10 hp.
Z900 you can ECU flash, pick up 10 hp.
KTM you can....... bolt on 3 piggyback modules and get much less done.
Street Triple RS you can........ bolt on 3 piggyback modules and get much less done.
Hey papa yam, I recently bought my first bike last week (2015 R3). I’ve been watching you for about 2 years now and you really helped me in starting out in my riding journey. Thank you.
I'm curious about when people harp on modern Japanese designs yet everybody is fine with the Dukes styling?
There's something about KTM's that just keeps people coming back over and over again 😘
The service
Josh nice joke, as I fly past you on my ktm
Josh u ever changed a bikes oil? It’s not that hard, and I never have to buy a new front tyre , because I’m always doing sik monos ya cuz hahahaha
Kshitij Raj ready to hit a tree
Kshitij Raj oh I was thinking more about dirt bikes for some reason but gl
Owned the 2018 SDR 1290 for over 2 years now and it's the bike I've owned the longest, zero complaints and will never trade in for another bike. But I only use like maybe 70% of it's full potential at best, you're totally better off getting an 890R for street use, unless you're running track days. STILL, having that insane torque on tap is addicting and I love the styling, I couldn't bear to trade it in for an 890r.
Yes to the 390! What a blast for the dough, even after years of riding experience.
Juan I didnt know you're into motorcycles. 390 was my first bike, I agree. Love your channel, keep it up
ST 765 was gonna be my for-sure buy, then I saw the 890 R. About the same HP (give or take 1-2), way more torque, lighter, better (IMO) looking, close to the same price after tech pack (tsk tsk KTM and all that upgrade garbage)...KTM was a no-brainer. >3k miles on mine now :D
Own a 390 now and fully intend on getting the 890 next season. KTM is a hell of a drug.
same here my friend....
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Love my duke. Might not be fastest or loudest but it rips for what it is and handling is perfection for what I ride. 890 will be next.
I had the 390 duke, enjoyed it until about 550 miles into it the oil light turned on while riding. I shut it off immediatly and trailered it in to the dealer. It turns out the oil pick up screans were plugged with metal shavings. Two months later they finished rebuilding the motor just in time for winter. I put 600 miles on it in the snow covered roads of colorado. At that seconed first service it had the same problem. They changed the oil and said put a thousand miles on and change it again to see what it does. I road it like i stole it for a thousand miles and it did the same thing but less metal. I traded for the 790 straight away and have been very happy since. I think if the 390 had the power of a crf 450 it would be great
Guys so just you know. The clutch is not a magura hydraulic clutch. It's a cable clutch. That being said, I own one of these and i totally, totally love the thing.
180hp unicycle! Right on lol
Bought the 890R a couple of weeks ago as my first bike. I love it, and my face hurts after all the grinning while riding it!
Congrats!
Yam I had a 390 (2016) sold it and now have a similar engine or the same but with an Indian body. Yes the Indian manufacturer Bajaj who has a 48 percent stake in the KTM consumer products has developed a bike for the Indian masses. Same performance. Different and comfortable riding style naked sports beginner. Bajaj Dominar 400. There are articles published offline and online regarding the Siberian cross country odessey of this motorcycle travelling kilometers and kilometers across the globe in order to pinch the Harley and Royal Enfield durability. Pls check it out.
The cost is $2000 MSRP
I haven't seen this kind of content in a while.. it really takes me back daddy Yams, as a KTM Fanboi I whole heartedly agree with your points on KTM and their bikes.
switched from a YZ250 to a KTM 350 back in 2016 and never looked back! You aint lying brother! lol
Well, I genuinely like how their supermotos look... I have since I was a kid. And since their older designs are stylistically similar to what most major brands are releasing this year I guess that market verified MY SUPERIOR TASTE 1:0
The 390 is awesome! Most bang for the buck!
Love my 790 Duke! Funnest 800cc on the market, bar none (except the 890 Duke of course).
Dealerships are practically giving away 790s by selling them for $7999 (ask me how I know).
Oh yeah ? And how do you know that?
I heard the 790 is being discontinued for 2021
Just bought a 2020 duke 790 2 days ago as my first bike. so much fun!
There is also the duke 790l with 95hp on which you can decrease the power to 48hp. Doing so makes it legal to ride for owners of the european a2 license, who want to upgrade to an unregulated license later on. So now you dont have to switch you bike.
Or, if you want to be a fancy pants KTM boi, you buy Husky bikes instead.
@@jahyoda See Fortnine's review on the 701 Vitpilen
Yes and no. Husky was actually the one to come up with the better counterbalanced LC4 engine which KTM then adopted from them. This is seen from the fact that the 2017 701 already had the smoother engine, but took KTM until 2019 to get it. Husky is also the only one of the two offering the "LR" version of the 690/701 enduro. As of this year KTM did give the Husky the quick shifter for their 701. So it really goes both ways.
There’s a reason huskies are like thousand bucks more expensive , it’s not just because they’re white
"busa looks like a personal massager" lost my shit here hahahaha
I don't like "Keep The Manual" me and one of my friends that both owned the same 390 Duke used to call it "Keep Taking Money"
Well brother squids I did it I just bought and road home my first motorcycle. An Indian scout sixty It was amazing!
That’s awesome my dude! I also just got my first bike! 2005 Suzuki Boulevard M50
Ps... 790 Duke First bike ever ride/owned.. got it in July started riding in rain mode now riding in sports mode lol 790 can be for beginners too..
KTM approaching number 3, Kawasaki in sales. KTM already left Harley and BMW sales in the dust.
Yeah but they sell mainly dirt bikes as well as road bikes , unfair comparison against Harley and bmw
An 890R here in Australia is $6k more than a run out 790. So 790's still the better buy @ 2/3rd the price.
@@MrDeepseadweller I agree, but there's a guy on FB [KTM 790/890r Duke Group Australia] in Sydney that has one...
@@MrDeepseadweller I bought a 890 R secondhand with low k's for a great price.
@@MrDeepseadweller Check my channel heaps of ride video's till I crashed it last month lol
I got a 2020 890, I got a 5 year warranty that covers the entire bike for 5 years, backed by KTM, so im not too worried about the reliability issue. (and it already had some problems) But it is such a fun bike, best bike ive ever owned.
what problems did you get so far?
It fucks my head that the"middelweight bike" makes 105 hp😂😂
890r makes 122hp
The front on the 890 is actually not “fully” adjustable - there’s no preload adjustment. Which is no good. I mean, man, either give me a bike that I don’t have change the suspension on or don’t.
minute 6.30 >>> 890 was introduced because 790 was not euro5 (pollution standards).
Many towns in Europe make u pay an annoying tax for anything that is not euro 5 (Check - London ULEZ & congestion charge around 20-30$/day). Therefore, KTM moved fast and adapt but didn't want to lose power due to the euro5 exhaust filter and increased the engine size to recover the lose of power ....
I bought the first, and probably only , ktm Duke in 1995 in Texas. Beautiful wheels and very unique....buuuttt...riding lime creek rd it would die while braking for turns. Stupid crap carb ! And it was a left side kick only. No electric start. Was able to auction the P.O.S. off in Dallas. Swore off the brand. Until I rode a superduke 990 in 2008 at cresson trackday. The most fun track bike for me during that time. Bought one and have owned 990 superduke..2 990 Smts. Great and reliable bikes now with usable fun engines. I'll buy another just not sure which model next. Great informative video sir.
8.5 min of history and memes, 2 min of 890 review and a long enough 790 review to say "get the 890 scrub".
I had money down on a Aprillia.....660....
The dealer is 3 hours away from me. I read they have to reset the check engine light when you change the oil ..
What a wonderful bike though...
I backed out....this might be the right solution for me...
My first bike was a Duke 390, oh boy its the most funnest thing i have ever laid my hands on...😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
Ready to ride? No! It’s ready to RACE! *chugs full can of monster*
Wrong, there was a superduke 990 released way back in 2006. So no, there wasn't a 1290 superduke out of nowhere.
I just bought a 1290, and haven't had it long enough to really come up with any niggles. Except the orange. I get the importance of branding, but they could take a leaf from the Japanese manufacturers book when in comes to having options which aren't festooned in the corporate colours.
Best video I get to wake up to in the morning papa yam!
Just so you know, they aren't ENTIRELY moving the bikes to china. There will Chinese made ones that have some cheaper components cause not everyone needs Brembo brakes and top of the line suspension. All of the bikes (to my knowledge) will still be made in Austria with top grade parts for the people that want to pay the premium.
890 is a cable clutch, not hydro.
If you want a 790 or an 890 you buy the 890. The end.
Perfect Video at the perfect time :D I'm currently making my A-License on a Duke 790 and I'm seriously consider buying a 790 Duke
We've only got SV650s... Would love to do it on a Duke 790.
@@stevenfxgp the 790 is unbelievable. Even with its stock exhaust it's louder than a superduke with sport exhaust. Every time you roll off the throttle it starts shooting flames like crazy 😍 and the quickshifter is super fun and makes the bike backfire every time you shift
I wasn't ready for the razor ad
They made the KTM 790 because you can restrict it to be A2 compliant, and there you have the most technologically advanced A2 bike that has torque and it is affordable as well :)
Dont know where you from but a 790 in europe is deffo an A Categorie
@@notoriousmiks1927 they make a duke 790L which comes from factory with 96hp so you can restrict it down to 48
EuroBros unite! Our bikes are stereotypical, our bikes are temperamental, our bikes are often unreliable, but we are passionate about them! Now I’m off to take out a 2nd mortgage on my cardboard box for Desmo services.
Team orange! 💯👍
As the owner of a '17 FZ-09 I'm triggered by your lack of showing the updated model in your comparo. Thanks, now I want an 890 Duke because I'm already hairy and gross
Come join the Kyle side...we have cake
& Cookies with Orange smarties ;-)
You are a video genius...such fun segues...go buddy go !@!
You finally made it!! Now time to give an 890 duke away!
Great work on comparisons! I have my second Super Duke. No other bike like it. My other bike is a MV Agusta Dragster 800rr Pirelli Edition. No other bike like it. Triples and V2’s are unique. The Beauty and the Breast!
I am going to need a bike update I’m torn on 890 and the dragster. Riding them didn’t help me much sadly possibly made it harder to decide
I love my 890R but I will need to put on different tires for winter time. The stock tires are just street legal track tires.
did you have any issues with it so far? im really considering it as my next bike! thanks
@@alex5761 zero issues so far. I did about 3000km on it. The 890R is great. It's so light and nimble. Great fuel economy as well. My biggest complain is the size of the fuel tank. I would have preferred a few more liters.
My previous bike was a super Duke 990R 2009. That bike was more extreme, more difficult to ride.
Drax Mordante cool thank you!!! How many km can you do with a full tank? Sure you can beat my hd 883 😂
@@alex5761 I can do about 200km 220km on a tank. That is about 12 liters. Depending on if you use it for commuting or blasting on the a twisty road.
Drax Mordante thank you!!!
No one:
Ktm: let’s make a duke 690, duke 790, duke 890, duke 990
Aaaaaaaaaaaaand..... a 490 twin is coming.
Hilarious. Love it. And yes, I have drunk the Kool-Aid, now owning a (fantastic) Duke 890R. By the way, the headlight looks like an alium? Alien? Keep up the great videos! 😎👍
you forgot to mention how th 790 is now about 7,000 us dollars.
well you could buy one of their dirtbikes for 10,000 usd
The first generation 390Duke in India did not come with a TFT screen. It came with an underbelly exhaust with the dirty ,gritty note. It was a hooligan !
Wondering if Yammie will ever see a BMW F900R.
I just bought a 2017 690 duke and I love it . Haven't even picked it up yet lol 😅
TH-cam is trying to break me with these ads
It do be like that , it really do , be.
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Wow, there's some wrong info in this video. The 790 and 890 are around 400 lbs wet, not 383 and 375, the weight difference between the two comes from the fact that the 890 doesn't have pillion pegs or passenger seat installed when you buy it (but it does come with it). The 890 has 119 hp with 73 ft lbs, not a huge difference but you stated 79 ft lbs. Also the 890 (and 790) have cable clutches, not hydraulic.
Sounds like a overall better bike but reliability is a big one for me since I'm not technologically gifted enough to do any major work on my own. Also z900 is pretty heavy. Street triple is expensive so would probably still stick to the new mt 09 sp with the cruze control.
The duke 790 is coming back to allow A2 license holders to buy it restricted to 47bhp in Europe and then unlock it once they get their A license
I am half way through the video and not once has the 790 or 890 been mention yet.
YOU are "the Guy" I have been searching for when it comes to helping me decide on buying a KTM. It is so great to hear the history. WELL DONE, son!! I liked and subbed.
Yammie... We NEED a total and comprehensive overview of duke 890r VERSUS Triump Sreet Triple RS 765... Which one if you have 14k would you buy. Best overall. Street, track, summer, overall, etc etc etc.
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We all know that if papa yam had put the sv650 on the list of comparison, the duke would have put in it's resignation letter telling everyone it surrenders to the better man.
I almost spat out my energy drink from my KTM mug when i first saw this video.
So what you're saying is, KTM is to the motorcycle world, what a U.S. Marine is, to the military world. I am, and I have. A 390 and 890.
Super duke was around long before 2014. Just FYI.
Yep, he forgot about the 990 Super Duke
I brought a KTM RC 390 for my second bike, I like it so far
6:33 to shame people overnight.... lmao! xD
I have a friend that bought at 890 Duke R first ride the crankshaft seal leaked and something else went wrong I can't read what it was. The bike shifted like s*** so I took it back to the dealership and they denied any thing was wrong with it. Pissed off and disappointed he's going to sell the 890 Duke R. He is a experienced rider and this wasn't his first KTM.