as someone who has done intermittent fasting for secular reasons for a long time, you get used to it quickly even when you throw in some pretty serious exercise on an empty stomach
Thoroughly interesting, I'll grab a copy of this book myself. I didnt know I was intermittent fasting until I've watched this video. Best regards from a orthodox convert from Brazil !
Thanks, Aidan: interesting topic as we enter a fasting season. Becoming an "intuitive eater" is, itself, an ascetic goal. We never (or rarely) think about what the fasting discipline is for (other than punishment). My body didn't do so well on intermittent fasting a few years ago (actually started to gain weight). But then I was over 300 lbs... Now, at 212 And going to the gym 6 days a week, it may be different. Idk. Many books on diet propose a longer life as one of the benefits. That, by itself, doesn't seem to be very Orthodox as a goal: not a bad thing, but we're not here to live forever. Nor are we here to die at 50 from a myocardial infraction! Being healthy, keeping the Temple up and running, as it were, is a good thing. Your turning the conversation to the topic of working out (we ain't the average people lol) was super helpful. The book on Audible and I will give a read/listen.
The thing about this diet is the carb allowance is too low. It pretty much forces you to exclude tuff like lentils and beans from your diet which is what orthodox mainly eat during lent.
Interesting discussion. I find this a challenge as i life 3 times a week, work on my feet, and train bjj and wrestle for 10 to 12 hours some weeks. I weigh 200lbs and have a very active metabolism. 130 g of carbs certainly wont cut it.
Hellow brother! I just found your channel! I am Greek and Christian Orthodox. I have been in mount Athos two times. I am an amauter kick boxer. I want to make a diet plan for me and i have never thought to follow all year the fasting. Do you know if this book have translated in Greek language? As an Orthodox i know what i should do but it's way better if i have the book as a guide.
How does one get that many grams of plant based protein and consume so few grams of carbohydrates in a day? Plant based protein shakes? When you increase your protein with plant based foods you inevitably increase carbohydrate consumption. Thank you for any insights.
Hey friend! When you're plant-based (which from an Orthodox perspective is only during fasting periods) you're invariably going to be consuming more carbohydrates than you would on a meat-based diet. This is unavoidable, as you stated. But the key is to focus on the high-protein plant foods, and minimise or cut out the carbohydrate-heavy plant foods (potatoes, rice, wheat, etcetera.) If you do that, it's very feasible to hit the 100g protein mark and sub-130g carbohydrate mark, without using protein shakes. However, there's nothing wrong with using plant-based protein shakes if you feel you're not getting enough from your meals. Shellfish, which are very high in protein, are also permitted during the fasting periods, in moderation, of course. Outside of the fasting periods, when meat is "back on the menu", this all becomes much simpler of course.
I am inquirer, OMAD carnivore and LEO: I am struggling with the concept of how to craft my fasts if I become Orthodox since I've been high fat / high protein almost entirely animal based for more than five years. As a LEO other people trust their lives and well-being to me, and pay my salary with their taxes. I ate a nearly vegetarian diet for about 18 months before I started carnivore, and it wrecked not only my health, and my teeth (the first and only cavities happened very quickly on this diet) but my strength and endurance. I am worried about the above. Can you point me to information to assuage my concerns?
If you are on the path of converting to Orthodoxy, the best person to speak to would be your Orthodox Priest. Always start there and get blessings and direction from your priest.
I mean your not going to go 18 months your only going to fast on fasting days and on the feast not most of the year. It’s a good chunk of the year but not most of it.
Fr Dc Ananias, Tristan Haggart, Jay Dyer all do carnivore + fasting. I'd look to see if they have videos specifically for Orthodox fasts. I know to an extent exceptions for a fast can be made for health reasons.
@@ax85114 The Athos Diet does *not* promote getting proteins from meat. If you listen to Pillar 2 again (High Protein) it specifically recommends plant-based protein sources. I, however, made the personal suggestion that outside of the fasting periods we (as laypeople) can keep the structure but bring back animal proteins into the diet. I must apologise for any confusion, and hope this clears things up a little!
I dont care. The athos diet doesnt care about athleticism. This is giving it a value system of the world. With the athos diet you would gain weight, not lose it. If you ought to lose weight you eat meat and eggs. Stop trying to make Orthodoxy something it is not.
The writer of the book lost weight doing the diet. Something else to consider is the rigorous daily projects of the athonite monks. They work and perform athletic things all the time.
Thank you for bringing this book to my attention.
as someone who has done intermittent fasting for secular reasons for a long time, you get used to it quickly even when you throw in some pretty serious exercise on an empty stomach
I ordered my copy of "The Athos Diet".
Thoroughly interesting, I'll grab a copy of this book myself. I didnt know I was intermittent fasting until I've watched this video. Best regards from a orthodox convert from Brazil !
Thanks, Aidan: interesting topic as we enter a fasting season. Becoming an "intuitive eater" is, itself, an ascetic goal. We never (or rarely) think about what the fasting discipline is for (other than punishment).
My body didn't do so well on intermittent fasting a few years ago (actually started to gain weight). But then I was over 300 lbs... Now, at 212 And going to the gym 6 days a week, it may be different. Idk. Many books on diet propose a longer life as one of the benefits. That, by itself, doesn't seem to be very Orthodox as a goal: not a bad thing, but we're not here to live forever. Nor are we here to die at 50 from a myocardial infraction! Being healthy, keeping the Temple up and running, as it were, is a good thing.
Your turning the conversation to the topic of working out (we ain't the average people lol) was super helpful.
The book on Audible and I will give a read/listen.
Please do more on this topic..👍🏽❤️🩹
Just got it on audible 👍
This book is a game changer.
The thing about this diet is the carb allowance is too low. It pretty much forces you to exclude tuff like lentils and beans from your diet which is what orthodox mainly eat during lent.
Dang it! You got me with cute nature! Now I have to improve my health and live a happy life 😓
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Interesting discussion. I find this a challenge as i life 3 times a week, work on my feet, and train bjj and wrestle for 10 to 12 hours some weeks. I weigh 200lbs and have a very active metabolism. 130 g of carbs certainly wont cut it.
13:51 did bro just morph from a level 1 Ortho Chud to a level 1000 Schema monk
Seltzer : never heard of that
Dude. Directly calling me out with that Pepsi Max. I've been intermittent fasting for years except for the accursed pepsi max.
Hellow brother! I just found your channel! I am Greek and Christian Orthodox. I have been in mount Athos two times. I am an amauter kick boxer. I want to make a diet plan for me and i have never thought to follow all year the fasting. Do you know if this book have translated in Greek language? As an Orthodox i know what i should do but it's way better if i have the book as a guide.
The doctor who wrote the book is Greek. There might be a Greek translation. Just Google and let us know.
@danielswanepoel9931 There is not brother! I searched before ask. I don't know why. Its very interesting. My English isn't good.
Interesting. Thought shellfish was allowed during fasts, though so it does not have to be completely plant based or did I get this wrong?
You are right but speak to an Orthodox Priest for final authority.
How does one get that many grams of plant based protein and consume so few grams of carbohydrates in a day? Plant based protein shakes? When you increase your protein with plant based foods you inevitably increase carbohydrate consumption. Thank you for any insights.
Hey friend! When you're plant-based (which from an Orthodox perspective is only during fasting periods) you're invariably going to be consuming more carbohydrates than you would on a meat-based diet. This is unavoidable, as you stated. But the key is to focus on the high-protein plant foods, and minimise or cut out the carbohydrate-heavy plant foods (potatoes, rice, wheat, etcetera.) If you do that, it's very feasible to hit the 100g protein mark and sub-130g carbohydrate mark, without using protein shakes. However, there's nothing wrong with using plant-based protein shakes if you feel you're not getting enough from your meals. Shellfish, which are very high in protein, are also permitted during the fasting periods, in moderation, of course. Outside of the fasting periods, when meat is "back on the menu", this all becomes much simpler of course.
@ Thanks. I am an Orthodox Christian and I appreciate your response.
I tried the keto diet and lost too much weight. I’m already skinny do that was a problem.
Does anyone know nutritious meals I can make myself during this fast.
(In the last I mostly fed myself with potato's)
Thanks in advance
Recipes are going to be posted on this channel every week. Already two posted.
@danielswanepoel9931 any more?
Is there a alternative to going into ketosis while on the fast, for those who are underweight? Or have just the right one and don't want to loose it?
I am inquirer, OMAD carnivore and LEO: I am struggling with the concept of how to craft my fasts if I become Orthodox since I've been high fat / high protein almost entirely animal based for more than five years. As a LEO other people trust their lives and well-being to me, and pay my salary with their taxes.
I ate a nearly vegetarian diet for about 18 months before I started carnivore, and it wrecked not only my health, and my teeth (the first and only cavities happened very quickly on this diet) but my strength and endurance.
I am worried about the above. Can you point me to information to assuage my concerns?
If you are on the path of converting to Orthodoxy, the best person to speak to would be your Orthodox Priest. Always start there and get blessings and direction from your priest.
I mean your not going to go 18 months your only going to fast on fasting days and on the feast not most of the year. It’s a good chunk of the year but not most of it.
I'm allergic to shellfish and most beans. What do i do now?
Fr Dc Ananias, Tristan Haggart, Jay Dyer all do carnivore + fasting. I'd look to see if they have videos specifically for Orthodox fasts. I know to an extent exceptions for a fast can be made for health reasons.
Speak to your priest!
@@Godlivesthrough pain
How come the "Athos diet" promotes eating lots of proteins from meat when the monks in Athos never consume meat (disregarding if it is lent or not)?
@@ax85114 The Athos Diet does *not* promote getting proteins from meat. If you listen to Pillar 2 again (High Protein) it specifically recommends plant-based protein sources. I, however, made the personal suggestion that outside of the fasting periods we (as laypeople) can keep the structure but bring back animal proteins into the diet.
I must apologise for any confusion, and hope this clears things up a little!
It promotes lots of protein, not lots of "animal" protein. Besides the monks eat shellfish too.
I dont care. The athos diet doesnt care about athleticism. This is giving it a value system of the world. With the athos diet you would gain weight, not lose it. If you ought to lose weight you eat meat and eggs. Stop trying to make Orthodoxy something it is not.
What if yout wheel of compassion extends to all sentient beings? So u abstain from using your stomach as a graveyard.
The video literally says you must be goal based. Goals are clearly mentioned. Stop trying to make this video something it is not.
@@bankaihadouken1180God told us all plants and animals are to us for food.
The writer of the book lost weight doing the diet. Something else to consider is the rigorous daily projects of the athonite monks. They work and perform athletic things all the time.