That stash of artifacts was breathtaking, you anticipated my response to it correctly. I have never seen a Carbide Can with colors like that, had no idea. To think the one miner that wrote his name on the ore cart was there 5 month before the world would change forever on 12-07-1941 really puts perspective in place. These adventures you take us on are, in a way, a form of traveling back in time to a place where everything just stopped one day. Sometimes we understand why, but just a frequently we are left with more questions than we arrived with. Great stuff, and, as always, thank you!!!
I'll occasionally google graffiti names, but every single time they have lead to nothing since a lot of the names are either too common or there was simply never much of a trackable history/record. Richard Montijo however, might have lead me to an actual lead. Assuming it's the same person in question, Richard Montijo was born around 1920 and would have been in his early 20s when writing that graffiti, he died in 2000. Not entirely sure if there is a relationship, but interestingly a Judy Montijo is listed on some mining claims near Pinal AZ, so it would seem at the least the montijo's are a mining family going back in time. Mainly I'm just curious to see if any of these old names turn up a living breathing centenarian, how cool would it be to show them a video of their old mine decades later? You could get some really cool insight on how and why some things were done back then. This mine has been really cool to get a glimpse of, thanks for sharing!
Nice box and can collection you found. One of the best I've seen. Ore car, canteen, nail bag and column from the column drill are all bonuses. Thanks for the tour!
That rather crude graffiti at 5:05 looked more like a warning for 'BAD AIR' instead of 'Caution: Don't step here!' but either way you'll want to remain alert.
Those Hercules Powder and Explosive boxes are great. For those of us who live right near Hercules CA which was the home to the Hercules Dynamite Company for many years (East Bay, Contra Costa County CA) those are relics we would all love to possess.
That looked like the mining aisles of a an old hardware store. Carbide containers and explosives boxes on aisle 6, bag of nails on aisle 7 and ladders, ladders everywhere.
@@TVRExploring Hello Justin. Haven't seen you post on your channel in a couple weeks. Just reaching out to say hey and that I hope things are OK with you. All the best !!!
5:54 Classic Phone Joke for Kids before Cell Phones & Caller ID: The prankster typically calls a store and asks if they have "Prince Albert in a can". When the unsuspecting clerk responds, "yes", (because the tobacco is typically packaged in a can, though other forms of packaging also existed), the caller follows up with, "well, you'd better let him out!"
The great artifacts that you find in the drifts,I shutter to just imagine what could be in the flooded sections,love this mine and thank you for the videos,I always watch as soon as I get the notification,be safe and keep it up!:)
I do like your videos and keep up the good work and not in a mean way or anything but, even if the video isn’t that good I’ll still click on the like button no matter what! Cause you know you gotta respect everything/every little thing that you do lol.💯💪🏼🙌
Hi Justin, a very cool mine explore with lots of different artefacts but my favourite I think was the Prince Albert tobacco tin with the carbide and the ore cars too. Thank you for sharing & all of your hard work that you put into making these video's they're awesome, much love. xx
Thank you very much, Sue. Your continuing support and positivity is so greatly appreciated... I always look forward to your comments. And, yes, there was quite a collection clustered down there!
This mine just kept going and going. I'm left wondering how much farther down it went. It's a shame you guys ran into water. Another amazing explore Justin!
Hi, this comment doesn't just refer to this video. We watch all your videos and enjoy them. We know next to nothing about mining but find it fascinating. All the colors are amazing. Could you tell us as you explore what kind of mine you are in. What they were mining for and what the colors of the rock indicate? That would be really helpful and interesting. Thanks.
It is not often that you see Carbide Drums that are that legible. I wonder how they mined the lower levels of the Winzes in the old days with the water table that high, or maybe it wasn't so high when they were mining it.
Great video thanks, those explosives boxes are really great to see but they give me the willies. To me it is like you are traveling back in time. Have you guys been to the Cerro Gordo silver mines in California, I would love to see your take on that place. keep up the good job.
I found an old carbide headlamp at an antique shop and it was filled with white powder. I was very confused because I know what carbide looks like but I suppose it was outgassed carbide? I tried looking up outgassed carbide but there were no results
It's spectacular that this place is so well preserved, even with exposed water in the lower levels. Half of the wood looks new and the carbide cans aren't even rusted. What state is this in? Mines where I'm from definitely don't ever look like that haha. it's a shame that this was all partially destroyed. Was it just the stopes you used to access the lower levels that got collapsed or are we talking total destruction? I'm curious if the lower level had it's own portal or if they hoisted everything up.
This was in Arizona. Everything was hoisted up via those shafts I showed in the last video. I haven't laid eyes on the destruction yet and so I can't answer that last question...
Does any of the mining rails have dates molded on them? I have looked at a lot of track we have at work and most of it has dates from 1902 to the 1920s.
Wire nails started replacing square nails around 1850, so this mine is likely wire nails and not square ones. Only the very oldest mines would have square nails
Timeline: Early machine cut nails with hand made heads: c.1790s to mid 1820s. early completely machine headed cut nails: 1810 to late 1830s "modern" machine cut nails: late 1830s to present. After about 1840 these displaced hand wrought nails for construction. Post 1840 nails are not easily distinguished from those currently made. Cut nails are still used for specialized purposes (think horse shoes, furniture, boats etc). Cut nails have adhesion advantages over wire nails (see "Adhesion of nails, spikes and screws in various woods, experiments on the resistance of cut nails, wire nails (steel), spikes, wood screws, lag screws" in "Report of the Tests of Metals and Other Materials for Industrial Purposes made with the U.S. Testing Machine at Watertown Arsenal, Mass. in 1884" Government Printing House, Washington; 1886) Wire Drawn nails: 1850s to present. Earlier wire nails have bulbous heads eccentric to shank. WIre nails were initially used for boxes and small items. They were cheaper than cut nails and production surpassed cut nail production in 1892. from about 1914 on wire nails predominate for construction.
All of the crystal/rock displays I have seen report that the specimen came from such and such mine. Have you come across any pieces worth keeping and do you keep some?
@@TVRExploring I admire your strength, much greater than most,including myself. My walking around abandoned mine waste piles has never yielded much, but the few it has, I treasure. I enjoy your videos and your commentary, thanks much.
What is wrong with the word "RECYCLE" or "REUSED"??? repurpose does not even come close. purpose means -the reason for which something is done. reason is a mental process, only humans have it. reuse is a far better description.
That stash of artifacts was breathtaking, you anticipated my response to it correctly. I have never seen a Carbide Can with colors like that, had no idea. To think the one miner that wrote his name on the ore cart was there 5 month before the world would change forever on 12-07-1941 really puts perspective in place. These adventures you take us on are, in a way, a form of traveling back in time to a place where everything just stopped one day. Sometimes we understand why, but just a frequently we are left with more questions than we arrived with.
Great stuff, and, as always, thank you!!!
Very well said... And thank you!
World was already changing prior to 7/12/1941. It was just happening outside of one countries borders.
Arch Stanton...did your great grandfather fight in the Civil war?🤣
Along With Tooko Juan Ramirez?? 🤓
Best artifacts find I am seeing great adventure
That Jeremey clip to end it off with lol nice vid.
What a beauty!
Good afternoon from Southeast South Dakota
Those nails were in amazing condition. They looked brand new.
I'll occasionally google graffiti names, but every single time they have lead to nothing since a lot of the names are either too common or there was simply never much of a trackable history/record. Richard Montijo however, might have lead me to an actual lead. Assuming it's the same person in question, Richard Montijo was born around 1920 and would have been in his early 20s when writing that graffiti, he died in 2000. Not entirely sure if there is a relationship, but interestingly a Judy Montijo is listed on some mining claims near Pinal AZ, so it would seem at the least the montijo's are a mining family going back in time. Mainly I'm just curious to see if any of these old names turn up a living breathing centenarian, how cool would it be to show them a video of their old mine decades later? You could get some really cool insight on how and why some things were done back then. This mine has been really cool to get a glimpse of, thanks for sharing!
That's interesting you took the time and were able to find so much this one time about a person. Thanks for posting it.
On the last video someone did some research and was able to track down a few of the miners. It definitely isn't easy!
Recently I have been reading about the bender family not to do with mining I know but some serious history there 👍
Those nails looked brand new.
Very nice Grafitie Down there
Thank you for the Video
Stay safe take care
Yours Frank Galetzka
It's like chutes and ladders!!!
Definitely!
To bad the next level was flooded. Thanks for taking us along.
Yes, even though it is in the desert, it gets wet if one goes deep enough...
@@TVRExploring i suppose there has to be a water table at some point
Best toilet sign I'v seen...
That’s all exciting and as usual it doesn’t get any better. Up for the tag alone tour. Long live the our car.
A bit scary climbing at the end but a lot of nice stuff too see down there, thnx guys.
Lotsa cool relics and those ladders looked beefy, for a change. Thank you!
Excelle Cinematography and documentation work as always!!!
Thank you!
Can't wait for a new installment of the 'Who's mine is it anyway?' series.
WOW!!! Amazing finds down there! Very cool! That's what ya hope for!
Amzing finds...really gets you close to the miners down there a century ago
Yes, I love it when you can really walk into a time capsule of a mine like this.
Nice box and can collection you found. One of the best I've seen. Ore car, canteen, nail bag and column from the column drill are all bonuses. Thanks for the tour!
I would lose my mind over that. :)
What a trip thank Q
That rather crude graffiti at 5:05 looked more like a warning for 'BAD AIR' instead of 'Caution: Don't step here!' but either way you'll want to remain alert.
It's always neat to see things left behind from years ago looking like they were placed yesterday.
Those Hercules Powder and Explosive boxes are great. For those of us who live right near Hercules CA which was the home to the Hercules Dynamite Company for many years (East Bay, Contra Costa County CA) those are relics we would all love to possess.
Loving the graffiti and some great artifacts too 👍
Cool exploration....
Sweet 👍
That looked like the mining aisles of a an old hardware store. Carbide containers and explosives boxes on aisle 6, bag of nails on aisle 7 and ladders, ladders everywhere.
Ha, it really did...
@@TVRExploring Hello Justin. Haven't seen you post on your channel in a couple weeks. Just reaching out to say hey and that I hope things are OK with you. All the best !!!
Nice, thank you. Long live the Orr Car
them nails were made after the 1800's because the heads are round not square that is why they look new
This is true.
5:54 Classic Phone Joke for Kids before Cell Phones & Caller ID: The prankster typically calls a store and asks if they have "Prince Albert in a can". When the unsuspecting clerk responds, "yes", (because the tobacco is typically packaged in a can, though other forms of packaging also existed), the caller follows up with, "well, you'd better let him out!"
Yep, I remember that from when I was a kid.
The great artifacts that you find in the drifts,I shutter to just imagine what could be in the flooded sections,love this mine and thank you for the videos,I always watch as soon as I get the notification,be safe and keep it up!:)
Thank you. Yes, imagine what could be in those flooded sections!
What a great mine explore Justin and crew! Thank you for sharing.
I look forward to your new video every Wednesday!
Thank you.
That poop graffiti was pretty funny, have you seen anything like that before?
Happy algorithms
I don't comment much but I really like every single one of your videos!
Thank you so much for sharing your great adventures with us.
Thank you for coming along...
I do like your videos and keep up the good work and not in a mean way or anything but, even if the video isn’t that good I’ll still click on the like button no matter what! Cause you know you gotta respect everything/every little thing that you do lol.💯💪🏼🙌
Well, I certainly appreciate that...
Hi Justin, a very cool mine explore with lots of different artefacts but my favourite I think was the Prince Albert tobacco tin with the carbide and the ore cars too.
Thank you for sharing & all of your hard work that you put into making these video's they're awesome, much love. xx
Thank you very much, Sue. Your continuing support and positivity is so greatly appreciated... I always look forward to your comments. And, yes, there was quite a collection clustered down there!
@@TVRExploring thank you. xx
Those ladders look like new ones
It’s a dry mine for sure 😊
very sturdy 100 year old wood
Definitely something we appreciate about the dry, desert mines...
This mine just kept going and going. I'm left wondering how much farther down it went. It's a shame you guys ran into water. Another amazing explore Justin!
Yes, I'd love to know... Even though it's in the desert, things get wet if one gets deep enough.
chocking chicken drawing?
Hi, this comment doesn't just refer to this video. We watch all your videos and enjoy them. We know next to nothing about mining but find it fascinating. All the colors are amazing. Could you tell us as you explore what kind of mine you are in. What they were mining for and what the colors of the rock indicate? That would be really helpful and interesting. Thanks.
I usually talk about what kind of mine it is and the history (if I know it) in the description below the video.
It is not often that you see Carbide Drums that are that legible. I wonder how they mined the lower levels of the Winzes in the old days with the water table that high, or maybe it wasn't so high when they were mining it.
Yes, seeing carbide cans like that is very rare. I would imagine they were pumping the water out.
Shoots and Ladders! 👍🙏❤️! Oh yeah Hercules from California! We made a lot of that! 👍
Great video thanks, those explosives boxes are really great to see but they give me the willies. To me it is like you are traveling back in time. Have you guys been to the Cerro Gordo silver mines in California, I would love to see your take on that place. keep up the good job.
Fabulous
Is there a was to demonstrate how much light a carbide lantern puts out to see the amount of light a miner had to work?
We've sourced a carbide lantern and that project is in the works.
@@TVRExploring That’s awesome
Cool I really would like to see it and how much light they put out
I found an old carbide headlamp at an antique shop and it was filled with white powder. I was very confused because I know what carbide looks like but I suppose it was outgassed carbide? I tried looking up outgassed carbide but there were no results
Do you ever come across mines that literally nobody, Has been in since ww2?
Yes, we're working on one now that no one has been in since the 1930s. It's stunning.
I keep looking at these mine clips on you tube and would really love to get one of those dynamite boxes for my reloading room...smile Some day.
It's spectacular that this place is so well preserved, even with exposed water in the lower levels. Half of the wood looks new and the carbide cans aren't even rusted. What state is this in? Mines where I'm from definitely don't ever look like that haha.
it's a shame that this was all partially destroyed. Was it just the stopes you used to access the lower levels that got collapsed or are we talking total destruction? I'm curious if the lower level had it's own portal or if they hoisted everything up.
This was in Arizona. Everything was hoisted up via those shafts I showed in the last video. I haven't laid eyes on the destruction yet and so I can't answer that last question...
Yeah that's awesome. I've never seen the artifacts so well preserved. For example I never knew those containers were blue.
11:03 - I'm guessing that was a living organism at one time. Any thoughts on what it was? A bat, perhaps?
I wish I could answer that, but I really couldn't even determine that much and wasn't inspired to put my hands on it.
Would there still be ore there by any chance ?
Does any of the mining rails have dates molded on them? I have looked at a lot of track we have at work and most of it has dates from 1902 to the 1920s.
We didn't see any. However, the rails deteriorate over time and make such things impossible to see.
They not use square nails in the mines?
Wire nails started replacing square nails around 1850, so this mine is likely wire nails and not square ones. Only the very oldest mines would have square nails
@@SmallMartingale thanks for that, everydays a school day
@@lucyfiesta 👍👍
Timeline:
Early machine cut nails with hand made heads: c.1790s to mid 1820s.
early completely machine headed cut nails: 1810 to late 1830s
"modern" machine cut nails: late 1830s to present. After about 1840 these displaced hand wrought nails for construction. Post 1840 nails are not easily distinguished from those currently made. Cut nails are still used for specialized purposes (think horse shoes, furniture, boats etc). Cut nails have adhesion advantages over wire nails (see "Adhesion of nails, spikes and screws in various woods, experiments on the resistance of cut nails, wire nails (steel), spikes, wood screws, lag screws" in "Report of the Tests of Metals and Other Materials for Industrial Purposes made with the U.S. Testing Machine at Watertown Arsenal, Mass. in 1884" Government Printing House, Washington; 1886)
Wire Drawn nails: 1850s to present. Earlier wire nails have bulbous heads eccentric to shank. WIre nails were initially used for boxes and small items. They were cheaper than cut nails and production surpassed cut nail production in 1892. from about 1914 on wire nails predominate for construction.
I wonder if anyone makes a submarine drone that can go under the water there at the bottom so, we could see.
Those do exist!
All of the crystal/rock displays I have seen report that the specimen came from such and such mine. Have you come across any pieces worth keeping and do you keep some?
Yes, we see fine samples all of the time. However, no, we don't take anything from the mines.
@@TVRExploring I admire your strength, much greater than most,including myself. My walking around abandoned mine waste piles has never yielded much, but the few it has, I treasure. I enjoy your videos and your commentary, thanks much.
Holy shit!!
I hope you guys have a metal detector 🤔
I have a feeling that there's metal literally everywhere in places like these lol
There is!
Wow it looks so interesting what you do is so cool and every step is like another step into the past and they didn't have to text you back then so OMG
Playing Stopes and ladders?
Exactly!
Where is this
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What is wrong with the word "RECYCLE" or "REUSED"??? repurpose does not even come close. purpose means -the reason for which something is done. reason is a mental process, only humans have it. reuse is a far better description.
2nd
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