Great review with so much good info! Question: With the increased blue blocking and fast transitions, would you recommend the Gen S or XTRActive New gen for light sensitivity? 32% vs 34% blue block seems negligible, so I was wondering what the advantage is, if any, of XTRactive after Gen S?
xtrActive get darker, they are a true level 3 sunglasses and they can darken without the presence of UV light. The downsides are that they cost a little bit more and take much longer to transition than gen s
Interesting Video! Outside, I prefer wearing XTRActive vs. traditional transparent lenses. Indoors, I prefer wearing traditional lenses. I have a pair of Essilor Varilux Lens with Transitions XTRActive and a Fire Red Mirror Coating. XTRActive Grey with Fire Red Mirror Coating Pros + All visible light wavelengths activate the XTRAactive vs. UV activates the Transitions Gen8 + Great for outdoor sports and driving, use them everyday for walking and running outside + Become much darker than Transitions Gen8, even more so when below 70 F outside + Better than Transitions Gen8 for outdoor activities and driving + Quick to darken and lighten, still work great after 1 year of daily use Cons - Prefer not to use indoors, too much light attenuation and too many internal reflections from indoor light sources - Try not to use these outside at night because of internal reflections from vehicle lights, street lights, etc. - Still usable after dusk, but prefer to wear Transitions Gen8 or non-Transitions lenses
Yep, I also have an XTRActive lense without the Mirror coating which has less internal reflections at night; I still prefer wearing a transparent lense at night because XTRActive does attenuate the light.@@igorrybin2737
The mirror coating works great outside during the day. It is still acceptable at night, but one sees more internal reflections from street lights, etc.@@igorrybin2737
Hello Mr Nelson....Your presentation was exciting. However, did Essilor explain to you that they're adding a Grey tint to the Sapphire and Amethyst samples that you have that makes them even darker?? I recently have purchased BOTH of those Gen 8 style colors and they were more GREY than Sapphire and Amethyst. Essilor wouldn't put the colors of their Samples that you're showing everyone, into the matching colored frames I purchased, and refused to return my money. Please don't sell these colors to your patients without checking this out first. My optometrist assumed as I did, with physical samples in hand, that the lenses would turn out that way. The transitioning is incredible, the STYLE COLORS are not.
You purchased 2 Gen 8 but he’s presenting the new Gen S (9) which is not on the market yet. The ones you bought….I’ve bought before too, the amethyst was so grey and dark like you said. I can’t wait for this one to drop in the market, I was in their study group a year ago and LOVED all the colors.
They redid the colors with Pantone for this remake. The blue is jewel toned, more like Zeiss’s has been, the purple is much more vibrant as well. And the ruby is to die for. I ordered it the hour it went on sale. Not only do they have less grey, they look good at all levels of tint now.
I ordered the Gen S Sapphire in April and have yet to see them turn blue at all. They are grey. LensCrafters has replaced them, and they’re still gray. They don’t match the simulator or marketing material from Transitions. Even more disheartening, is the lack of response from Transitions after many attempts. Before I say that the marketing material paints a false picture, it’s possible that LensCrafters fulfilled the order wrong (twice), but a store employee has confirmed that they really don’t look blue. I expected more from Gen S.
@@YammyClav Sorry to hear about your plight. My story happened the same as yours but worst. I became a sucker twice hoping for a better outcome. I became a SuperSucker when I had special ordered frames to match the GEN 8 special colors. My optometrist couldn't/wouldn't do a thing. They did talk to the Essilor Lab and support to no avail. As you know frames and lens aren't cheap and we as customers deserve better and get what is advertised and ordered. Essilor knows they have this problem. I've even contacted the state AG to look into the matter for false advertisement, to no avail. Their offer was to do a small claims suit. I guess I should just shut up and be happy, enjoying how blazing fast my GREY lens that I didn't order, change back and forth.
What is the material for Gen S? Is this polycarbonate or something else? Want to know how tough it is for sports etc. Also, outside but under a hat's brim, does the Transition work well? Thanks.
For transition to work best they must be exposed to UV light. If you are hiding them under the brim of a hat they will not get as dark because you are restricting the amount of UV light that is reaching the lens.
The lenses are as tough as regular polycarbonate or Trivex lenses. The tech that allows the lenses to transition is imbedded in the lens and I don't think it has any negative effect on the integrity of the lenses. If you are worried than you should get some safety lenses and some safety frames but I think that would be a bit overkill for just playing sports.
Transitions Gen S don't get darker than Gen 8. The only difference is the speed of change, a nice step forward in the right direction after 5 years but far from a game changer.
@@GoodOptometryMorning Interesting, I just watched a video from (use my frame) and both gen 8 and gen S reached the same level of 6% light transmission.
For driving would e pair of GenS get as dark as Xtractive? My opitician thought GenS would reach level 3 darkness but I did sense a hint of uncertainty in his answer hence my question. Also do Xtractive polarized get as dark as Xtractive in a car? In short I'm looking for the best lens for driving, without choosing a Drivewear lens. Many thanks for your review & help. @@GoodOptometryMorning
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Great review with so much good info!
Question: With the increased blue blocking and fast transitions, would you recommend the Gen S or XTRActive New gen for light sensitivity? 32% vs 34% blue block seems negligible, so I was wondering what the advantage is, if any, of XTRactive after Gen S?
xtrActive get darker, they are a true level 3 sunglasses and they can darken without the presence of UV light. The downsides are that they cost a little bit more and take much longer to transition than gen s
Interesting Video! Outside, I prefer wearing XTRActive vs. traditional transparent lenses. Indoors, I prefer wearing traditional lenses. I have a pair of Essilor Varilux Lens with Transitions XTRActive and a Fire Red Mirror Coating.
XTRActive Grey with Fire Red Mirror Coating
Pros
+ All visible light wavelengths activate the XTRAactive vs. UV activates the Transitions Gen8
+ Great for outdoor sports and driving, use them everyday for walking and running outside
+ Become much darker than Transitions Gen8, even more so when below 70 F outside
+ Better than Transitions Gen8 for outdoor activities and driving
+ Quick to darken and lighten, still work great after 1 year of daily use
Cons
- Prefer not to use indoors, too much light attenuation and too many internal reflections from indoor light sources
- Try not to use these outside at night because of internal reflections from vehicle lights, street lights, etc.
- Still usable after dusk, but prefer to wear Transitions Gen8 or non-Transitions lenses
Most likely, the mirror coating on the lens is bothering you. It is beautiful, but not very practical.
Wow. Thanks for sharing this detail
Yep, I also have an XTRActive lense without the Mirror coating which has less internal reflections at night; I still prefer wearing a transparent lense at night because XTRActive does attenuate the light.@@igorrybin2737
The mirror coating works great outside during the day. It is still acceptable at night, but one sees more internal reflections from street lights, etc.@@igorrybin2737
It was great to meet you at Academy with Dr Smith!
yes great to meet you
How does the Gen S compare with Hoya Sensity? Fast and Series 2? Thanks - Great video!
Hello Mr Nelson....Your presentation was exciting. However, did Essilor explain to you that they're adding a Grey tint to the Sapphire and Amethyst samples that you have that makes them even darker?? I recently have purchased BOTH of those Gen 8 style colors and they were more GREY than Sapphire and Amethyst. Essilor wouldn't put the colors of their Samples that you're showing everyone, into the matching colored frames I purchased, and refused to return my money. Please don't sell these colors to your patients without checking this out first. My optometrist assumed as I did, with physical samples in hand, that the lenses would turn out that way. The transitioning is incredible, the STYLE COLORS are not.
You purchased 2 Gen 8 but he’s presenting the new Gen S (9) which is not on the market yet.
The ones you bought….I’ve bought before too, the amethyst was so grey and dark like you said.
I can’t wait for this one to drop in the market, I was in their study group a year ago and LOVED all the colors.
@@Julian-yz9slSome just don’t read carefully 😆
They redid the colors with Pantone for this remake. The blue is jewel toned, more like Zeiss’s has been, the purple is much more vibrant as well. And the ruby is to die for. I ordered it the hour it went on sale. Not only do they have less grey, they look good at all levels of tint now.
I ordered the Gen S Sapphire in April and have yet to see them turn blue at all. They are grey. LensCrafters has replaced them, and they’re still gray. They don’t match the simulator or marketing material from Transitions. Even more disheartening, is the lack of response from Transitions after many attempts. Before I say that the marketing material paints a false picture, it’s possible that LensCrafters fulfilled the order wrong (twice), but a store employee has confirmed that they really don’t look blue. I expected more from Gen S.
@@YammyClav Sorry to hear about your plight. My story happened the same as yours but worst. I became a sucker twice hoping for a better outcome. I became a SuperSucker when I had special ordered frames to match the GEN 8 special colors. My optometrist couldn't/wouldn't do a thing. They did talk to the Essilor Lab and support to no avail. As you know frames and lens aren't cheap and we as customers deserve better and get what is advertised and ordered. Essilor knows they have this problem. I've even contacted the state AG to look into the matter for false advertisement, to no avail. Their offer was to do a small claims suit. I guess I should just shut up and be happy, enjoying how blazing fast my GREY lens that I didn't order, change back and forth.
Thanks for the excellent information. New lenses from Transitions are always wow!
Always great to have new tech come out
How is this compared to photofusionx?
Torn between gen s and xtractive
if sunglass is priority get xtraactive. If having clear lenses indoor is a priority get GenS
@@GoodOptometryMorning just ordered the one with xtractive. Thanks.
Do Gen S lenses offer the mirror feature? Do these new Gen S lenses hold better darkness in a car? Thanks for the great video!
Gen S are not mirror. Mirror are Xtractive only...i love mine. I havn't tasted ben s in the car yet.
@@GoodOptometryMorning have you tested them yet?
What is the material for Gen S? Is this polycarbonate or something else? Want to know how tough it is for sports etc. Also, outside but under a hat's brim, does the Transition work well? Thanks.
They are available in a variety of materials, incluidng polycarbonate
For transition to work best they must be exposed to UV light. If you are hiding them under the brim of a hat they will not get as dark because you are restricting the amount of UV light that is reaching the lens.
The lenses are as tough as regular polycarbonate or Trivex lenses. The tech that allows the lenses to transition is imbedded in the lens and I don't think it has any negative effect on the integrity of the lenses. If you are worried than you should get some safety lenses and some safety frames but I think that would be a bit overkill for just playing sports.
@@lukew2194 Thank you! :)
Gen S comes in a variety of materials from 1.5 1.6 1.67 and polycarbonate. It will darken under a hat brim
Does xtractive have a tint to them indoors?
Transitions Gen S don't get darker than Gen 8. The only difference is the speed of change, a nice step forward in the right direction after 5 years but far from a game changer.
Gen S actually do get slightly darker than Gen 8. They do it faster and get darker in warm climates
@@GoodOptometryMorning Interesting, I just watched a video from (use my frame) and both gen 8 and gen S reached the same level of 6% light transmission.
when can u buy the gen s? Is there a estimated time? I gonna get new glasses wondering to wait or not. Thanks.
April 9th is the official release date.
Should be available earliest in mid April in North America, Italy and France.
@@GoodOptometryMorningWhat about Germany?
@@GoodOptometryMorning When can i buy in Poland ?
@@karlenruybal1873 Spain?
I'm really torn if i should get this genS lens or the xtraactive polarized. Does this get as dark as xtraactive polarized or more or less?
Less
Polarized will likely get darker. Also it is polarized.
ARe the Transitions Gen S available yet?
Yep!
They are and only $80 on (use my frame)
Yes on April 9
Thank you
You're welcome
The question is do the Transitions Gen S get as dark as the Xtractive's in high temps.
Good Question: Gen S does get darker than Gen 8. I haven't seen a comparision of GenS to Xtraactive
No
@@GoodOptometryMorning😂
For driving would e pair of GenS get as dark as Xtractive? My opitician thought GenS would reach level 3 darkness but I did sense a hint of uncertainty in his answer hence my question. Also do Xtractive polarized get as dark as Xtractive in a car? In short I'm looking for the best lens for driving, without choosing a Drivewear lens. Many thanks for your review & help. @@GoodOptometryMorning
@@SpiderMacKenzie i feel that if you are looking for darkest when driving I would go with xtraactive.
@4.00 compare with clear lens is useless. Compare with Zeiss photochromatic and then talk.
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Dont talk with your hands so much.....
it's hard... :)
I like the hand talk