Wasn't Expecting This! | The Sennheiser Momentum 4 FOR GAMING In 2023
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ค. 2024
- Most people review the Sennheiser Momentum 4 ANC wireless headphones in day to day lifestyle use. Today im gonna see if these are good for gaming competitive or casually! LETS GET INTO IT!
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Change of plans everyone! I said at the end of this I will be comparing these to the steel series arctis nova 7 in the next video. I decided to pick up the Corsair hs80 wireless and want to compare them to the steel series arctis nova 7 instead then I'll do the Sennheiser comparison after the hs80 comparison.
Nova sounds just meh, I have noticed lack of details and bass at the moment I have turned them on. And they make my ears tired after a couple of hours, which is the main reason I'm returning them. Waiting for Momentums to try!
Thank you for this review. I have already watched several reviews of these headphones, which were not as thorough and comprehensive as yours. I hope your channel continues to grow, keep up good work!
I've been looking for a higher tier headset that could be used for both gaming and music/travel, and your comments about excellent spatial awareness and immersion while also providing a robust musical experience is exactly what I needed to know. Definitely convinced me to give these a try! TY!
Glad this was helpful!!
Very well made review with all the info needed. Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
thanks for talking about the clamping force good review
You answered all my questions. Great review
Awesome glad it helped!
Which one do you believe has better dynamic sound/immersion these or the steelseries?
Senheiser have much deeper bass but still maintain the rich highs my next video is a comparison to the ss arctis nova 7 and these
Nice review!
Excellent review man . 🎉
Thank you!
Hi man, great review of the headphones.
I have 1 question tho, how do you make them work with Discord? it seems like every time i log in the app they enter in "Hands Free" mode and i can no longer listen to any videos or game in the background. Is there any solution for this issue?
There shouldn't be any issue with hearing things in discord however Its normal that on PC the mics won't work unless it's over bluetooth
Have you tested wired using usb vs 3.5mm sound quality (with the headphones turned on obviously)
honestly i didn't think to try these over usb
I watched aaa lot of reviews but yours is thorough !
Sadly, I still can't decide either these or Sony Xm4, mainly use for
movies secondary gaming & studying? Your help is really appreciated
and makes difference.
I really think that the momentum have a great sound signature that's not to bloated like Sony can be the anc is also super good for trying to sit and focus on tasks or drown out your surroundings and the transparency is super good too. But my main thing is I do think these sound much better then sony
Especially for gaming these are surprisingly good at directional awareness and immersion with games
@@IAmVehement Hmm, interesting. Would you say Senny's worth spending extra $100 (where I can pick up) over the Sony's?'
@@black.bird. I used to talk really highly of the sony wh- 1000xm4 back when i was new to testing headphones. Now i think that there are much better options over sony wireless headphones cheaper or similar price like the soundcore space q45 my favorite that ive tested so far are the sennys ill always recommend those over some sonys now a days.
Momentum 4 wins over the XM4 in everything but EQ options. Compared to the XM5 they only lose in ANC.
Sweet vid dude, cheers!
Thanks!
Thank u for the video, it was really helpful! I was wondering if I should buy those for gaming or not
I really think these are one of the best I've tried for gaming. The only downside is not having a mic for comms in game but they should really be used wired they sound better wired and on console they have to be used wired through the controller
Thank you! I really appreciate it
What is your comparison of the ANC between the SteelSeries Arctic Nova Pro and Sennheiser Momentum 4? I'm looking for wireless low latency audio with ANC for flights and walking around my house while recording music (the need for low latency, which I get from Arctic 7s).
I've sadly not used the nova pros so idk how the anc is but I've heard from people that have that the anc is great but I wouldn't be able to say how it compares
@@IAmVehement thanksn
nova pro wireless anc is absolute shit if u tried airpods or bose... absolute shit
Please help me decide on which one to purchase im confused between sony xm5 and senn m4. I heard senn m4 has better music but sony xm5 has better anc and has more features whereas senn m4 has lot of bugs, and also confused on which one will look better on head⁉️
I have never used the xm5 but I know I love my m4's over any anc headphones I've used. The anc is pretty damn good and I like the look of them. I also think they are incredibly comfortable.
Quick question, when you said "wired and On" for PC gaming are you talking wired through 3.5mm and On or connected through USB to the PC?
3.5mm I actually didn't test it USB c for audio. At the time I didnt think to try it.
Do these headphones have input lag while using in games ? Because it is connecting by bluetooth yes ?
If you play on an android the aptx adaptive really helps with the input lag but regardless it's Bluetooth. It has noticable lag when playing games over Bluetooth. But these are really great wired for gaming.
Hello. Is there a static/white noise when playing wired with ANC tunned on on PC ? I had this issue with 2 different ANC headphones before (including the Sony XM5) so I'm really wondering.
I have not ever had a white noise sound while using the anc and wired with the momentum 4 I did with Sony xm4 ones very slightly. But not momentum 4
My XM5 was very loud when using intensive softwares/games. Going to buy a Bose QC Ultra but if I don't like it I will probably get a Momentum 4 instead. Thank you for the quick reply !
I've heard those are great as well so honestly it'll probably work out. And no problem I like to try to reply to as many comments as I can.
could i use this on ps5? (wireless) and do they sound good for games like warzone?
Sadly PS5 can't use Bluetooth wirelessly on these or really any headphones unless you use a dongle or connect to the TV/soundbar or other bt device.
i actually didnt know that you could use the the m4 via aux cable and shutting them off. I knew that i lose power whilst using them on pc which i found quite weird, but that you could actually shut them off. Well thats new, although sound quality is a big backstep. It sounds like the clarity drops down to 20%. Btw did you use the aux cable or the usb-c cable for playing wired?
I used them over aux wire didn't try them over USB for sound. I'm not quite sure if these do it but I can try it. However when the momentum 4 are off and wired they actually sound quite a bit worse I've learned over time. When I made this review I thought it was ok but now I really think they sound like 45% worse while not powered on and wired.
@@IAmVehement actually played with them after this video until now whilst they are powered off. Actually isnt that bad after all. The sound stage and directional sound (not vertical) was actually pretty good, but it often happened that enemies sounded like they are directly in front of me although they weren't. Every time i put them back on i immediatly realize how much worse they sound until i get used to it again xD. Got a quick question though. Do you have a problem with the bass via aux cable? I used the m4 for playing CoD Cold war and there the bass is really overbearing and also for music etc. It really disturbs you from getting any info because many explosions cause the sound to melt together and then you cant pick up much. With the m4s turned off and wired i dont have this problem. Turning the Windows Enhancements off actually fixed this problem a lot but you still notice it if you pay attention before that it was really interrupting flow of gameplay
Quite interesting cause like I was saying I personally much prefer to use them while powered on so I'm not quite sure what would help your situation maybe go into the cold war audio setting and change it to studio neutral (I think thats what it's called)
@@IAmVehement Yeah, i just changed it to flat, unfortunately it didnt help much. Maybe its a problem with my headphones or the aux cable, idk. With other headphones i dont have this problem with the same port and i cant try it with another 2.5mm cable cuz i dont have one. I remember reading a reddit post with someone mentioning the same problem, i searched for this mutiple times (post was on reddit) and i cant find it anymore. Seems like i got something going on.
Very interesting I found a few posts about what your referring to wish I had more input for you to help out
Whats your opinion of these compared to audeze maxwells?
I have not used the Maxwell but for gaming you would do much better with the Maxwell due to it having low latency wireless, it has a mic, also I've heard they sound incredible
Hello can someone tell me if I'm using my Xbox controller and I use these headphones plugged in to the controller, does it use its own power or will it still drain power from the controller ?
The headset uses it's own power. You can use them while off but they sound MILES better when they are turned on.
hello i just got the headphones and while playing fortnite i noticed something that when i look at things they are much louder for example i built stairs in game and when i moved the mouse to anywhere else the sound was still clear but really low
got any idea what i can do about it?
It's directional audio and distance imaging if you look at something it's coming from both sides of your headphones and louder whilst if you look away it will be lower and in a different direction. The farther you go away from something the quieter it will get.
How do you talk to people if there is no mic? Just got a gaming pic and I had these headphones for music but want to use for gaming.
Sadly you need a separate mic for these to talk to people. It works great for gaming but not so great with friends.
You can actually use the microphone included with the headphones for gaming if you plug these in via a usb to the console instead of via 3.5 cable into controller
Oh really! I honestly didn't know that. Does it work on every console?
@@IAmVehement Work with anything that support aptX and aptX Adaptive codecs. Works on my Steam Deck.
I'm getting 200-280ms of latency when using these headphones. Is there no way to fix the latency when gaming? Even watching videos is a bit rough with the lip syncing.
So for gaming I don't recommend wireless. The bluetooth has way to much latency. However watching videos shouldn't have touch latency over bluetooth on mobile.
This review I was referring to playing wired
Hey Man, you mentioned that this should not be used for gaming in Bluetooth mode, did you then test this out whilst playing with wire? ie. the Headphones is not good for gaming in wireless mode?
The reason I don't recommend gaming in bluetooth mode is do to pretty big latency (lag) while gaming but gaming on a wire is great
I have absolutely 0 latency with the Sennheiser's BTD 600 dongle, including in a competitive FPS game. I also checked a few videos on TH-cam that test the audio / video latency, it's perfectly in sync.
So I don't know why you have latency. Are you using a modern dongle with aptx adaptive?
I'm using just Bluetooth no dongle there will be latency when gaming over Bluetooth aptx helps but doesn't solve it
@@exact7hi! i'm thinking about getting these for multimedia use but also gaming. are you still happy with them? or do you think i should look for something else? i would probably get the bluetooth dongle as well if you say it helps.
@@Mustis91 Hey, yes definitely! I use them for everything too, best headphones ever! There is NO latency (perceivable) with the BTD 600 dongle, trust me I play Quake and CSGO in them. And on TH-cam there are videos "audio video sync test", it's perfectly in sync
Work for call of duty Warzone? What do you think about it?
Yea as long as you don't need a mic these work great for warzone.
All I needed was hearing the spatial and all of that, but also I do desire good sound of music and everything
The spatial awareness is great and it's great for fps games.
I just bought these because I recently seen reviews about how good they sound out performing a lot of other headphone brands. And the fact you said they sound great listening to bands like slipknot solidified my choice even more. Going to love blasting Meshuggah on them
I think you will love meshuggah with these!
@@IAmVehement that’s all I needed to hear 🎸
hi! so i want to use this headset for gaming. but when i enable the mic, sound quality becomes really bad. i guess it's something with hands free mode or whatever?
any way to get around this so i can use the mic for gaming as well?
i got the btd600 adapter if this helps in any way..otherwise i'd have to get a separate headset which would be kind of dumb
I personally was unable to get the mics working for gaming. Even over Bluetooth and I tried a wired connection while powered on but it just doesn't work correctly.
Get a modmic works a charm, couple hundred $ but cheaper than a whole headset of same quality
So to clarify. I can’t use the microphone to communicate over discord while also gaming?
You might be able to voice chat over discord through a Bluetooth connection but you can't use them in game or over wired.
@@IAmVehementcaaaan you test with discord while gaming to see if it works 🫣
Will mic work while playing multiplayer game?
Sadly it will not
Is there any problem with connecting them to ps5? (via wire)
Nope not at all did most my testing on PS5 but they sound best if you turn them on while wired
I use them with my ps5 and have them on with the wire to use the ANC so I don’t hear my loud AC lol they’re amazing for games
I know I'm super late to this and you've moves on from tech reviews, but do you know if the Momentum 4s can connect to the Dualsense via the aux jack? I've tried it and can't get it to work.
I do it all the time. It sounds best if the headphones are turned on but yes it should work.
Oh, really?? What kind of cable(s) do you use? I got a single USB-C to aux cable, and that's just not seeming to work.
@xleaselife yea you can't use the USB c to aux on controller it has to be a 2.5mm to 3.5mm wire which I had to buy on Amazon
Wow, I'm incredibly stupid. The Momentum 4 COMES with a 2.5 mm to 3.5mm cable! Thank you, man. I don't know why that never occurred to me.
I appreciate you!
Yup I only bought my own cause I lost mine. But no problem glad I could help!
Does the Sennheiser Momentum 4 work wirelessly for Multiplayer gaming with "BTD 600"?
i cant really recommend these for wireless gaming over bluetooth and they dont have a low latency gaming mode to fall back on either
@@IAmVehement Thnx.
I have absolutely 0 latency with the Sennheiser's BTD 600 dongle, including in a competitive FPS game. I also checked a few videos on TH-cam that test the audio / video latency, it's perfectly in sync.
So I don't know why you have latency. Are you using a modern dongle with aptx adaptive?
@@exact7Dude, I have so many questions for you. Do you have a discord or something?
@@johnabney1921 lol sure, same id exact7
i wanna buy this but i have a concern. you said we cant just turn off the anc and i think i am sensitive to anc pressure either. lets say i am sitting in the house and in a silent environment. will i feel the pressure when the anc-transparent slider is in the middle in the app. thats the only concern i have.
In the middle will slightly add transparency and anc together kinda creating a balance like neither is on however it sucks that it's never just off it's always one or the other but I'm super sensitive to anc and have still not felt pressure and I'm extremely sensitive to anc also like I hated the Sony wh1000 xm4 and made my ears actually hurt
@@IAmVehement i think new version of sennheiser mobile app got a turn off switch for anc, i saw it in ios apps on several youtube videos. Do you have that option in the settings tab. Did you try it?
@@IAmVehement or, does adjusting the slider to slightly transparent side removes the cabin pressure fatigue? Also how can we adjust these settings on mac and windows? Those platforms dont have sennheiser app. Can we adjust anc there?
I just checked and it seems that you can turn of wind reduction but I still don't have a option on Android to turn off ANC but like I said as someone who's extremely sensitive to pressure from anc I don't have any problems with momentum 4 also on PC and Mac you can pinch and slide with 2 fingers to adjust the anc
@@IAmVehement thanks for your comments and objective review!
By the way if you use these for gaming on pc and the audio sounds like a tin can you have to turn off the hands free telephone option. I suggest looking up a tutorial to help if you have this issue!
This is good advice!
Debating between these and the Audeze Maxwells. They seem to do it all pretty well and i like their looks
So i have had the Maxwell for about 7 months and the right headphone just died on me. The use was only for playing games, never left my home and was always placed down when not in use. Just lost $300 and apparently this has been an issue for others as well...
@@Keanu-Breeze that's awful. Honestly I like them, I don't love them. The main downside is just how heavy and tiring they are compared to my old headphones (hyperx cloud alpha). I actually feel relieved taking them off after only an hour or so of having them on
Hii iam currently very confused between sony xm4, xm5 and sennheiser momentum 4 i want to buy an all rounder headphones one which i can use on my ps5, ioad pro and phone. I mostly play games like rdr 2 so their is no issue of playing with mic and i heard sound is better on momentums but iam really very confused because i want to buy headphones for a long run so any suggestions pls? Btw currently sony xm4s are the cheapest and xm5 and sennheiser momentum 4s are on same price after discount durability and comfort is also very important for me and at present xm4 s are cheapest in my country.
I much prefer the momentum over the Sony offering I use to love the Sony's but after long time of using so many different products I just think they aren't the best out there. I would much rather say grab the momentum 4 but if the Sony's can be grabbed for less there still a great pick. However they both have to be used wired on console.
@@IAmVehement hii first of all thanks for replying your videos are so good even i consider sony xm4 s by watching your videos but when i see your video on momentums are got really confused so sony xm 4 s are 18990 rupees here in india and sony momentums are 24990 so according to what's will be the best and did you face any quality or software issues with Sennheiser momentum 4 s software etc . And how's comfortable level incompare with xm4 . Literally iam really confuse between these 2 s .
The momentum 4 software is really easy to use I had some trouble when I first got my pair with it saying they weren't connected but it started to work and got an update and the headphones got a firmware update and never had a problem since. The momentum are still my daily drivers I really do like them better then the xm4 I think the noise cancelling is a bit more tolerable no pressure when using it. The xm4 had a really bad pressure so I couldn't use the noise cancelling. Sound wise the momentum 4 just sound much better but If you can snatch the xm4 cheaper it's a really good headphone with great software and great noise cancelling even tho I couldn't use it.
@@IAmVehement hii well i decided to go with momentum 4 s and they are gonna come in 1 or 2 days and thank you very much for your opinion because of that i make the decision to get momentum 4s gonna update you ⚡✌🏻 how was my experience with momentum 4 s i hope they are comfortable . And thanks again ⚡ . Yeah xm4 s anc is really strong i heard so i also cannot tolerate that much anc for long hours and its my first ever anc headphone purchase .
Bro are u happy with your m4 cause im also really very confused between xm5 and m4?
Just purchased a mic and everything works just fine.
Modmic?
I have absolutely 0 latency with the Sennheiser's BTD 600 dongle, including in a competitive FPS game. I also checked a few videos on TH-cam that test the audio / video latency, it's perfectly in sync.
So I don't know why you have latency. Are you using a modern dongle with aptx adaptive?
No dongle at all just normal Bluetooth and watching vids the latency is near non existence but regular bluetooth on games like apex mobile or cod mobile it's just to visible your using an accessory to improve the latency I'm reporting my findings from most people's use case
@@IAmVehement A tip: To improve latency, you can use a dongle connected to an audio interface, or something like that, that supports aptX like Momentum does. Latency decreases a lot.
@@pedroh29 out of curiosity what kind or brand of dongle would it be?
@@IAmVehement currently, I'm using ugreen Rx/TX adapter, compatible with aptx. Baseus and Vention are simular brands.
@@pedroh29 I might give them a try sounds really interesting and worth looking into maybe even video worthy
Which is better this or arctis nova pro
nova pro even tho ive not tried it. the nova pro can be used wireless over 2.4ghz along with having noise cancellation like the momentum and can be used over bluetooth if you need it too. also the nova pro have software on pc. the momentum have an app where you can save settings. I wish i knew how they sounded so i could give a better opinion but the nova pro is where i would go if i was looking for something specifically for gaming.
What about Arctis nova 7 Wireless Should i give it back and buy Sennheiser Momentum 4?@@IAmVehement
Does the mic work on Discord?
They do on mobile however idk if discord will work on PC I've not tried it but I do know the mics will not work in game.
Will these work on discord?
Should I didn't test it but I was able to use them in zoom but the mics just don't work in games.
MAN, THIS HEADPHONES IS GOOD FOR WATCH MOVIES IN SMART TV ? IF NOT DO YOU RECOMMEND ?
You can connect these with Bluetooth on a smart tv
What about the loudness sir
I never needed to turn these all the way up they are very loud plenty of headroom always had about 2 notches more of volume leftover
Is it possible to connect these to PS5 using usb c?
I don't think so not something I tried
@@IAmVehement how did you connect yours wired then? doesn't the momentum 4 output to USB?
@@AusOpening i used it 3.5mm into the dualsense
does work wireless?
lets go
You can use the headphones for gaming if you buy a cable with microphone (from Sennheizer HD 5X8 and HD 5X9). Problem solved!
Thanks for letting me know I'll make sure to point that out in the future
airpod max look nothing like those
They have the same thin headband big earcups non collapsible design language. I'm not saying they look the same but they have the same language
I couldn’t wear this for more than an hour. Ears literally on fire on a cold winter day 😂
Mine were pretty tight at first but after a few sessions I found them to be pretty comfortable but I can honestly understand your perspective
why do you let me look at a half mustache?? what is the goal behind that?
Forgot to shave 🪒 🤣 thought maybe everyone would love the mouse whisker look.
Come bien, no fumes mucho, afeitate.
@IAmVehement , so can i use discord while gaming on the momentum 4? or is this also a no go?
i also have the blackshark v2 and the cloud 2 btw.
i remember my cloud 2 where tight in the beginning....
If I'm understanding your question can you use the mics to chat on discord. If so then yea it's a no go sadly the mics are completely useless unless your using a phone or Bluetooth over a video call maybe if you Bluetooth the headset to your PC and connect it to discord as a bt device that might be a work around you could do
@@IAmVehement thanks for the reply👍
good to know its not compatible using game and microphone.
i do not own the momentum 4(yet)
@@IAmVehementHey man! I have a question, if i have other mic like the hyperx quadcast s, and the sennheiser’s as my headphones, I shouldnt have any problem with Discord/Gaming/everything in pc right? Please if you could answer would be amazing :)
Greetings from chile! 🇨🇱
Nope should be perfect
maybe u should invest in ur teeth instead of high quality headphones
Yup I'm working on both 👍
@Icysnipess Maybe you should invest in buying a life instead of writing this kind of comments, bro
@@ZoeHailstorm ur comment was longer than mine lil bro
@@Icysnipessits more about wasting your life being a dick than typing a few more words😂
Does you headphones sound like cheap when you wired them?
If there off it's not the best but if you power them on while wired they sound incredible