I really like the mention of how people in high ranks also can fumble and make mistakes. I think though, that one of the main differences is that in high ranks where they make a mistake, they will adapt and still try to make the play somewhat viable/useful.
It's not directly that they're adapting that sets high rank apart from low. It's the fact that high rank players typically realize the mistake made in real time and then adapt the best they can to unfuck themselves. Being able to understand and acknowledge a mistake in real time is much more useful than adapting or finding out by a streamer 3 days later.
@@anidiot1012 It is! Just look up “I spectated a BRONZE Echo One Trick in Overwatch 2”! It’s from 3 months ago! ☺️ Hope that helped & enjoy the comedy of Flats loosing his shit over that Echo lmao you’re in for a treat my friend!
There's such a massive difference in between low ranks and high ranks between divisions this goes from silver to gm. There's small differences in one rank separation like gold 3- gold 2 but when you make that same mistake game after game without ever realizing they add up quickly. Everyone is always quick to point out what their team is doing wrong and will blame their team for being hard stuck.
I have Moira attack and healing switch so they match her hands. (on Play station) then ended up doing that on all healers with an attack and a heal trigger. Because I got used to that set up with Moira.
That always made me so mad! Doomfist and Moira has their hands swapped with the control triggers, it always bugged me out when playing and only with practice I could surpass that mechanical problem
12:36 jeez, that was brutal....also, 10 seconds later and STILL nobody noticed it?! bronze is something else. regarding echo tho....flats forgot to mention you can get twice as high by holding shift. it's a nice trick to get away quickly, but you waste half of your potential height.
no the candy junkrat skin wasnt in the shop it was released during ow1 along with the funky bap skin edit: i know because im an avid junkrat candy skin user since it came out
I switched my Moira because her life steal hand is on the right and it confused me having it on the left that is the only reason it feels more natural and makes her a little easier to use
honestly my typical overwatch games involve making me forget what im doing and i end up forgetting what buttons do what and i try to kill my own moira healing me for a full second before realizing that ive actually been in a rubber room with rats
One issue with the one tricking advice if you play tank usually : the common knowledge is apparently the zarya counters orisa and Dva in most cases so I've had to still keep the ability to play Reinhart even though I prefer to play.D va or orisa. There are occasions where a zarya is so bad that you can just win with a decent team anyway (bronze)
Orisa yes, but Dva isn't actually as bad into Zarya as people think she is. You just need to be able to adapt your playstyle to avoid her strengths and capitalize on her weaknesses (For example play highground and don't front line against her). Except for a few examples, "counters" in overwatch don't actually counter a hero itself but rather shut down people who don't adapt. I play Winton into Reaper/Bastion/Dva all the time and still find success by just changing my approach.
@@imagecko9997 zarya is playable on everyranks until you get close to gm where meta is gonna be hard for you but before that if you have good aim you're gonna rolled kids in low elo
Imo best zarya counter is another zarya. Just learn to play her, shes not that hard. Yes, if you play tank, you cant really be a one trick. Youll just get countered next fight.
I guarantee you this was someone that played Mei before they nerfed the beam and just walked at you holding primary fire, but now since hit icicles is integral to getting kills they just get rolled like in this video It's also really obvious they only shoot the ball as bastion because that's the only thing they can hit reliably
I agree with trying to learn one character to get u out of bronze/silver, I’m diamond in everything and masters support and am pretty decent at more than 3/4 of the roster, but only like 2-3 dps support and tank I like, if u aren’t confident in the counter swap sometimes fighting with what u know best is the best thing
Heu flats remember that one bronze game u watched when the dps duo were trolling on defense but on attack they were serious just to extend the game? Im 90% sure the sombra and the ball were doing the exact same thing in this game and when they had a dc shit fell apart
A trend I see in lower elo games is shooting the tank for the majority of the game and really only paying attention when the tank is outright just gone or when a dps or support severely misstep their positioning. One thing that will take you to gold is look past the tank to hit things. Going high ground is a great option for doing that. When a tank with a lower health pool engages you or lots of damage, you do need to pay attention to them. To drive then off. Otherwise look to kill dps if they are trying to trade with you or are playing out in the open or supports if they are out in the open. Supports are top priority except in the case where you are being actively engaged. Tank is the lowest. When trying to figure out which dps to fight, I find who will have the most impact against my team and who I play. So as a hitscan I look for 1 shots first. Widow, hanzo, soj. Phara is high on the list because uncontested she always has high ground to can pick whatever target she wants. I also pay attention to dive dps too. If they have a genji or tracer I need to be hanging out next to my supports or be in a position to help them if they are engaged. After that its really reading the fight through cd usage, ult tracking, and positioning to produce a win so long as your mechanical skill has a solid and well practiced foundation. Just play with this stuff in mind. Like if you die think about it and where or what you could have done better. If nothing and it was unavoidable, just find something to laugh at or appreciate from the enemies skill and move on. A good opponent that can kick your butt is gonna be hard to find but they are fun ways for you to test yourself. You might feel a little down but you can look back at those games and see how you have gotten better.
5:00 that's what i did with junkrat and it helped me a lot. i learned the game from nothing. i started the 21 december 2022 and didn't know anything about the game. i discover by one-tricking junk, what the utl does, how to counter some hero, how to use the map properly and later on, i took other character that i can now play half the roaster in QP if i am lucky with my aim. i have now 990H in the game
@-aku2805 console players just can't win lmao. If we're good with heroes that require accuracy, y'all say it's all aim assist. If we're good with heroes that don't need as much accuracy, we're viewed as subpar. Can't please anyone, I suppose.
@@-aku2805Aim assist viewed by dumb people : Aimbot Aim assist: Reduce your sensibility when you're aiming at someone, slightly correct you when the enemy move fast (So you might get dragged to a flying Winston and it can screw you in a 1v1 HOW MANY TIMES did it happened to me)
the primary and secondary fire swap on moira is on console better i prefer it too not because of the aim, because the fact that u press your right trigger for dmg but i guess its personal oppinion
I don't enjoy the swap left click and right click for Mei because there is a hint of delay on the fire for icicle but every other character I follow that pattern
I like to switch Moiras fire because on console at least it makes more since. Hitting right trigger for her right hand and left trigger for her left hand is just way better.
did the swap of M1 and M2 too, even on moira. didnt do it beacause of any aim obviously, i did so i can get the right orb out whenever i need it and doing damage feels more natural on M1 for me
"No aim" while talking about Torb. Here's a game for you, take a shot every time you drop your turret and it gets destroyed immediately. You won't last a single match.
YO about swapping the primary and secondary buttons for Mei, it also changes the input for placing walls, is there any way to only change primary and secondary fire?
On the topic of swapping Moira's spray and suck, I have them swapped because on console it feels weird pressing the L1 for Moira to use her right hand and R1 for Moira to use her left hand hahaha 😂😂😂
the junkrat skin is the worst since it actually makes your trap so noticeable because of the purple teeth, it would be my favorite skin if it DIDN'T have that
i once heard meis icicle takes the same amount of time to fire and travels the same speed as anas sleep dart, is this still tru in OW2? thats a very transferable skill
Honestly, not even mad at them for focusing the Ball. The Ball seemed like a jerk and was focusing them the first couple(?) of rounds after dying once to the person we’re spectating. I was rooting for them to kill the Ball every time they went for them- 🙈
I do the same swapping primary and secondary fire for the same reason you mentioned it, as in Moira's case i made the swap when i first played her on console due to the orb ability not matching the primary/secondary fire as to not get confused, since i havent played her in a while im not sure what i have on her anymore
From where do you have these gameplays? Do people sent it directly to you or do you have it from any social media platform or how does this work, I also would like to learn more about my mistakes and seeing you react to it
you know the dive targets for doom, winton and diva; you know the flanks of every map well for any flank dps and you know most if not all medkit locations for any hero.
Thank you so much for making fun of me loved seeing it. And like I said ball was talking shit so I kind of focused him hoping I could live through genji blade
Flats single-handedly forging a whole host of new Echo mains...myself included lol
I really like the mention of how people in high ranks also can fumble and make mistakes. I think though, that one of the main differences is that in high ranks where they make a mistake, they will adapt and still try to make the play somewhat viable/useful.
Top 500 and silver are the same. Only dumb people
A mistake in high rank is not hitting the goal post. A mistake in low rank is showing up to the wrong fucking stadium
You'll be surprised how many top 500 players aren't that different from a diamond. Idk why metal rank think they're good at the game
@@Real_MisterSir yeah this is pretty accurate 💀 lower ranks make bigger mistakes and more frequently too.
It's not directly that they're adapting that sets high rank apart from low. It's the fact that high rank players typically realize the mistake made in real time and then adapt the best they can to unfuck themselves. Being able to understand and acknowledge a mistake in real time is much more useful than adapting or finding out by a streamer 3 days later.
16:04 finally, a sequel to "stop shooting the horse" and "stop punching the ramattra"
STOP SHOOTING THE FCKN BALL
you forgot my favorite one... "STOP. LICKING. THE. REIN."
@@CarolineContradictionby any chance do you remember which flats video that is from if it is from flats
@@anidiot1012 It is! Just look up “I spectated a BRONZE Echo One Trick in Overwatch 2”! It’s from 3 months ago! ☺️ Hope that helped & enjoy the comedy of Flats loosing his shit over that Echo lmao you’re in for a treat my friend!
@anidiot1012 I think that from a bronze one trick echo vid
Flats summarized every single person who has ever coached a Mei player, "That was evil... Do it again."
The amount of times they put up a wall and immediately dropped it in infuriating
hey at least they know they can cancel the walls.. took me 6 months 😂
Oh, I loved seeing a mei player fail.
It’s funny that they pick Echo then proceed to play on the ground the entire time, rather than ever flying up.
Ground birb also exist (pharah) 😔🙏🏻
@@arielkagamine3782 junkrat
thing is, situation dependent, ground echo can be the best strat
@@arielkagamine3782 I believe that is called Floorah my friend c:
@@BloodNothinglol nice xD
Crazy how this person and the bronze widow you spectated last game are the same rank
This is how people get stuck in Bronze 😂😂😂
There's such a massive difference in between low ranks and high ranks between divisions this goes from silver to gm. There's small differences in one rank separation like gold 3- gold 2 but when you make that same mistake game after game without ever realizing they add up quickly. Everyone is always quick to point out what their team is doing wrong and will blame their team for being hard stuck.
I still dont understand how he managed to die to the mines so many times
They’re getting rolled by a hamster named “bronze egirl” oh my god I love them
I have Moira attack and healing switch so they match her hands. (on Play station) then ended up doing that on all healers with an attack and a heal trigger. Because I got used to that set up with Moira.
That always made me so mad! Doomfist and Moira has their hands swapped with the control triggers, it always bugged me out when playing and only with practice I could surpass that mechanical problem
yeah I'm the same. Right trigger activating her left hand and vice versa just never gelled with me
Same!! It always confused my brain while playing moira.. I couldn't mentally stand how the controls didn't match her hands
I actually like it cause it reminds me to heal.
I never noticed
Flats: “Junkrat being people’s most player DPS is normally pretty funny to me.”
Me: *has 264 hours on Junkrat*
Good lord that’s a lot of rat. Has it rubbed off on you any? Lmao
@@_bizmo_fungus_894 I was a Junkrat one trick for the first few years of OW1
283 Hours and I felt personally attacked by that statement.
I just hit 200 hrs on him. And I have 190 on ball.
Junkrat? I was Junkrat once. They put me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats. And rats make me Junkrat.
12:36 jeez, that was brutal....also, 10 seconds later and STILL nobody noticed it?! bronze is something else. regarding echo tho....flats forgot to mention you can get twice as high by holding shift. it's a nice trick to get away quickly, but you waste half of your potential height.
you neglect the fact that the press shift can actually hit the skybox on most maps if you time it right and it's a relatively forgiving time window.
@@tbnrrenagade9507 I do not, but there's plenty of maps and spots where you dont hit the skybox but might want to
honestly I had no idea about that Echo tip, and ive been playing overwatch since 2018
15:58 "shoot the genji"
Bastion:"nope not my problem"😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
When he said he went 34/28 i think he meant assists and not deaths lol
Love these videos and very much appreciate that quick echo tutorial
Love watching you Flats!
Candy wasn't a shop skin I believe it was an archives skin 🤔
7:31
Ok, adding those in my list to play (I have no aiming skills)
Mine deaths
3:14
4:43
5:30
8:40 (technically mine death)
The one at 5:30 absolutely fucking killed me
no the candy junkrat skin wasnt in the shop it was released during ow1 along with the funky bap skin
edit: i know because im an avid junkrat candy skin user since it came out
"Can you react to the blade? Hello?" Holy shit I spit my coffee right out. 15:32 for reference. "Not my problem" Hahahaa
I couldn't breath, too funny🤣🤣🤣
Absurd like noone just understood that the ball is blantly smurfing in this game lol
I switched my Moira because her life steal hand is on the right and it confused me having it on the left that is the only reason it feels more natural and makes her a little easier to use
honestly my typical overwatch games involve making me forget what im doing and i end up forgetting what buttons do what and i try to kill my own moira healing me for a full second before realizing that ive actually been in a rubber room with rats
that ball rolled this dooD
One issue with the one tricking advice if you play tank usually : the common knowledge is apparently the zarya counters orisa and Dva in most cases so I've had to still keep the ability to play Reinhart even though I prefer to play.D va or orisa. There are occasions where a zarya is so bad that you can just win with a decent team anyway (bronze)
Orisa yes, but Dva isn't actually as bad into Zarya as people think she is. You just need to be able to adapt your playstyle to avoid her strengths and capitalize on her weaknesses (For example play highground and don't front line against her).
Except for a few examples, "counters" in overwatch don't actually counter a hero itself but rather shut down people who don't adapt. I play Winton into Reaper/Bastion/Dva all the time and still find success by just changing my approach.
@@imagecko9997I find value on facing the zarya face to face when I play dva. Force both bubbles out and then go for the kill
@@imagecko9997 zarya is playable on everyranks until you get close to gm where meta is gonna be hard for you but before that if you have good aim you're gonna rolled kids in low elo
Imo best zarya counter is another zarya. Just learn to play her, shes not that hard. Yes, if you play tank, you cant really be a one trick. Youll just get countered next fight.
I guarantee you this was someone that played Mei before they nerfed the beam and just walked at you holding primary fire, but now since hit icicles is integral to getting kills they just get rolled like in this video
It's also really obvious they only shoot the ball as bastion because that's the only thing they can hit reliably
I feel bad for the Moira that got absolutely executed by the hiding Ball and Sombra. Jesus that looked brutal.
😂
I agree with trying to learn one character to get u out of bronze/silver, I’m diamond in everything and masters support and am pretty decent at more than 3/4 of the roster, but only like 2-3 dps support and tank I like, if u aren’t confident in the counter swap sometimes fighting with what u know best is the best thing
on moira on console ow1 i had jump on left trigger, orb on left bumper, heal and damage on right trigger and right bumper
This series brings me so much joy.
Something about that Ball tells me that they are purposely there to farm bronzes especially with that name
The genji was like a cat in a bathtub as he tried to climb the ice wall
Heu flats remember that one bronze game u watched when the dps duo were trolling on defense but on attack they were serious just to extend the game? Im 90% sure the sombra and the ball were doing the exact same thing in this game and when they had a dc shit fell apart
3:00 the hold for echo boost you only wanna do that if youre trying to get away or trying to setup/get somewhere otherwise i wouldnt cancel it as much
A trend I see in lower elo games is shooting the tank for the majority of the game and really only paying attention when the tank is outright just gone or when a dps or support severely misstep their positioning. One thing that will take you to gold is look past the tank to hit things. Going high ground is a great option for doing that. When a tank with a lower health pool engages you or lots of damage, you do need to pay attention to them. To drive then off. Otherwise look to kill dps if they are trying to trade with you or are playing out in the open or supports if they are out in the open. Supports are top priority except in the case where you are being actively engaged. Tank is the lowest. When trying to figure out which dps to fight, I find who will have the most impact against my team and who I play. So as a hitscan I look for 1 shots first. Widow, hanzo, soj. Phara is high on the list because uncontested she always has high ground to can pick whatever target she wants. I also pay attention to dive dps too. If they have a genji or tracer I need to be hanging out next to my supports or be in a position to help them if they are engaged. After that its really reading the fight through cd usage, ult tracking, and positioning to produce a win so long as your mechanical skill has a solid and well practiced foundation. Just play with this stuff in mind. Like if you die think about it and where or what you could have done better. If nothing and it was unavoidable, just find something to laugh at or appreciate from the enemies skill and move on. A good opponent that can kick your butt is gonna be hard to find but they are fun ways for you to test yourself. You might feel a little down but you can look back at those games and see how you have gotten better.
5:00 that's what i did with junkrat and it helped me a lot. i learned the game from nothing. i started the 21 december 2022 and didn't know anything about the game. i discover by one-tricking junk, what the utl does, how to counter some hero, how to use the map properly and later on, i took other character that i can now play half the roaster in QP if i am lucky with my aim. i have now 990H in the game
love your stuff flats
God ive never been here in 12 minutes but another great spectating video love u flats ❤🎉
That console win rate list is so funny, exactly what I’d expected tbf
It's entirely accurate. Funny thing for me, though... My highest win rate hero is Cassidy.
@@wazopaioAim assist
@-aku2805 console players just can't win lmao.
If we're good with heroes that require accuracy, y'all say it's all aim assist. If we're good with heroes that don't need as much accuracy, we're viewed as subpar.
Can't please anyone, I suppose.
@@wazopaio I mean yeah. But tbh I have nothing against low mechanical skill heroes. Aim assist is bullshit though
@@-aku2805Aim assist viewed by dumb people : Aimbot
Aim assist: Reduce your sensibility when you're aiming at someone, slightly correct you when the enemy move fast (So you might get dragged to a flying Winston and it can screw you in a 1v1 HOW MANY TIMES did it happened to me)
Moira execution is still my favorite part
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As a Gold support player who sometimes picks all roles queue, my dps of choice is junkrat then pharah 😂
the primary and secondary fire swap on moira is on console better i prefer it too not because of the aim, because the fact that u press your right trigger for dmg but i guess its personal oppinion
The Wrecking Ball scurrying away sideways like a crab here is the funniest thing I've seen in a while... 8:11
I don't enjoy the swap left click and right click for Mei because there is a hint of delay on the fire for icicle but every other character I follow that pattern
feels like ball is a smurf
Poster: please dont pay attention to my gameplay, i was raging
Review: you gotta git gud
Me being a console player & my most played characters being mercy, moira & sym😭🕯
It’s so hard to aim, I don’t know how some of y’all do it. I can’t even aim on moira😔
The ball was 1000% a smurf :p
I like to switch Moiras fire because on console at least it makes more since. Hitting right trigger for her right hand and left trigger for her left hand is just way better.
mr editor you counted the same death twice, at 1:47 and at 3:11 💀
Im a console player and I have Moira fires swapped. On console her left hand is right trigger and her right hand is left trigger. It feels so wrong
did the swap of M1 and M2 too, even on moira. didnt do it beacause of any aim obviously, i did so i can get the right orb out whenever i need it and doing damage feels more natural on M1 for me
I play on console, but i also switch the primary and secondary firing for kiriko and mei.
Ball was smelling the blood in the water.
"No aim" while talking about Torb.
Here's a game for you, take a shot every time you drop your turret and it gets destroyed immediately. You won't last a single match.
BUT FLAAAAAATS! The Ball is a big target!!
I am a controller genji on pc and i can confirm that the console players didn't have aim at all when i played on console
As a console player that plays with pc friends and on pc servers, I get obliterated
You need to watch tutorials and find your mistakes so you can improve yourself
Just dont give up
As a console player, I can aim sometimes 😔
I’m a console player. I played junkrat once I got him and now I play widow 😀
Oh stop with this shit. It’s true but still. We are doing our best.
That junkrat stab hurts. I was bronze for a long time on junkrat but now I’m plat3 with about 300 hrs on junk
I actually have swapped my Moira but its not for aim, its for the consistency of damage=left click and heal=right click
Switching Moira from left to right just makes sense because damage is left hand and healing is right hand
sheesh flats with the clutch echo tutorial
YO about swapping the primary and secondary buttons for Mei, it also changes the input for placing walls, is there any way to only change primary and secondary fire?
On the topic of swapping Moira's spray and suck, I have them swapped because on console it feels weird pressing the L1 for Moira to use her right hand and R1 for Moira to use her left hand hahaha 😂😂😂
the junkrat skin is the worst since it actually makes your trap so noticeable because of the purple teeth, it would be my favorite skin if it DIDN'T have that
0:10 junkrat is fun to play
i once heard meis icicle takes the same amount of time to fire and travels the same speed as anas sleep dart, is this still tru in OW2? thats a very transferable skill
... I don't even play Overwatch and this was PAINFUL to watch.
Echo tech very hard to do on console without drastically changing your controls.
Honestly, not even mad at them for focusing the Ball. The Ball seemed like a jerk and was focusing them the first couple(?) of rounds after dying once to the person we’re spectating.
I was rooting for them to kill the Ball every time they went for them- 🙈
I do the same swapping primary and secondary fire for the same reason you mentioned it, as in Moira's case i made the swap when i first played her on console due to the orb ability not matching the primary/secondary fire as to not get confused, since i havent played her in a while im not sure what i have on her anymore
i'm sorry but I only hear the Kuru kuru honkai star rail meme song in the back ground. I know it is from somewhere else but still. XD
5:45 assumes they have an eyepatch XD
I have my Moira clicks swapped not because of aim but because the arms being the wrong way round messes with my brain
I was terrible when it came to competitive untill the mystery hero's mode came out then I kept getting placed in diamond
I switched my left and right click on life weaver so I shoot with right and heal with left it feels so much better than the other way
1:58 Thanks to that Echo tutorial, I've doing faster now. And, I'm on PS5. Takes practice (with controller), but, worth the change.
At least one good thing is that he change to different heroes knowing he is unlikely to hbeat them
Wow I learned about echo flight from this haha
Oh that keybind tip was enlightening
From where do you have these gameplays? Do people sent it directly to you or do you have it from any social media platform or how does this work, I also would like to learn more about my mistakes and seeing you react to it
i swap moiras heal/dmg binds because of the sides her hands show on the screen to equal the LT/RT on my controller.... makes the brain happy
That echo tip blew my mind. Why isn't that the default config!
it isn't the default config cause it doesn't feel right for newer players and on console the control scheme makes it difficult
Thanks for the echo tip streamer.
I have Moira things swapped because in my brain damage belong on left side of mouse
I did the same with kiriko and mercy’s beam
Yep same. Also Kiriko and LW swapped.
Bronze games are like 10x more fun to watch than GM/top500 or even the OWL, lol.
Its just happy chaos.
I one trick ball. How does that help me with any other hero ?? XD
you know the dive targets for doom, winton and diva; you know the flanks of every map well for any flank dps and you know most if not all medkit locations for any hero.
As a console player, I can confirm we do like heroes who can't aim! LOL
As someone who plays exclusively quick play, my matches look nothing like this lmao I have no clue what I just watched
😂 the chaos of lower ranks comp
"imagine these are your comp teammates" brother they are my comp teammates :/
Mines is actually one of the best ults in low level
Proof
2:47
It is really annoying to see people say stuff like this as if there is no other way to do this. So, I present to you… clicking the button twice.
The whole echo fly thing is bugged for me on console so I can't do the hold to fly setting :(
Well in console we can't adjust our FOV so maybe that one reason why the no aim are so high, and yes i use torbjorn and pharah as dps 😅
“Huh •_•”
when the ball just bmed him by just rolling side to side i would have insta swapped to sombra and just target the ball
Damn flats, I must be hilarious I have 450hrs on junk and the next on3 is like 33 hrs on roadhog 🤣
If a wrecking ball did that to me, in that moment I would swap to Sombra or Reaper and target the shit out of them.
Thank you so much for making fun of me loved seeing it. And like I said ball was talking shit so I kind of focused him hoping I could live through genji blade
That ball was an obvious smurf, don't feel bad. Also, your tracking aim, at least at 13:15, was fine, probably up to gold.