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The rarest Japanese synthesizer? | Suiko ST-50
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2020
- In which I demo and make music with an obscure synthesizer made for the Japanese traditional music market, the Suiko ST-50. Created to accompany poetry, the ST-50 is a beautiful and strangely timeless instrument. Its haunting sound and unusual playing style set it apart from many other instruments.
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Hainbach is the Bob Ross of synthesizers. Having him read me bedtime stories about synthesizers would be amazing.
For those interested in these types of sounds that can't track down a Suiko, I recommend looking into a Roland JV-1080/2080 loaded with the Asia expansion card. It was manufactured in the early 90's as well and is great for cinematic stuff
Jv-1010. I have one. It's the same but very compact and cheaper. 1 exp card slot
I have a JV 2080, w/expansion cards. It's better than any VST...My secret weapon!
Worth noting that Roland's subscription service has an absolutely accurate recreation of the 1080/2080 as VST. Only distinguishable by how much cleaner it sounds.
@@GavinMorris1 I prefer the hardware variations. Sound wise and tonality. Perhaps my ears are just imagining things. Though perhaps this is all imagination, and thus sensory organs vary per individual discretion and bias.
To each their own.
i had a 1080 years ago giving it up was a huge mistake
I believe the bottom notes of the synth are in the Hira-joshi scale; one of the minor pentatonic scales used in Japanese music. This is the most common scale used for tuning the Koto, which is the stringed instrument this synth is supposed to sound like.
Confirmed: Hainbach hasn't forgot about Dre.
Why isn't this the top comment?
He's representing the synths from all across the world
Dr. Dre-san
@@ChrisLeeW00 Or Dre-Sensei as "Sensei" is the honorific for Doctor (amongst other things) - which is still pretty funny imo
@@oivinf Or otaku (nerd) as the Japanese say.
The "Hi i'm Hainbach" in Japanese made me fall on the like button =$
I'm not Japanese but that synth surely speaks Japanese... at least sound-wise. What a cool instrument.
The white letters written in the center are the timbres written in the upper left half, and the vertical letters in the lower are from the left, koto, 17 strings, old Chinese koto, suiko, chime, metallophone, shakuhachi, Shinobue, Nohkan, Sho, Kokyu, Oboe, Strings, Horn, Chorus, Percussion instrument. Next, on the upper right half, the horizontal letters are written as the keyboard. From the left, the vertical letters below are large drum, drumming, tightening drum 1, bell, tightening drum 2, clapping tree, drum, hook, small drum, bell, timpani 1, kihada, timpani 2, gong, timpani 3.
This instrument is a modern practice machine of the Shigin, which was made to add a unique clause when reading Chinese poetry in some private schools and clan schools in the late Edo period.
Uh oh, don't tell all of the SoundCloud lo-fi sadboi hip-hop producers about this!
ahahahahaha
too late 😂😂😂😂
When Hainbach was playing those two Koto chords, damned if I couldn't hear the 70's funk drum loop in my head.
This would be a beast for UK Grime instrumentals
Thanks, now I have to spend hours listening to grime again... there goes my productivity for the day.
@@Timbobs interesting, I was thinking Dubstepy stuff myself. Daydreaming what could of been if someone found this beauty in 05
@@nunyabidness2148 Kode9 would have loved this machine for sure
Imagine this in the hands of Clams Casino and Wiley
skep would've had a field day with this ting back in the day
Not that you need it, but if it helps, the keys are marked in the ‘do re mi’ style, using the ‘katakana’ alphabet.
ド (do)
レ (re)
ミ (mi)
ファ (fa)
ソ (so)
ラ (ra)
シ (ti)
ド (do)
Cheers
And THIS is why TH-cam’s comment section rocks. Thanks!
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You asked for it: : Choir, Synth and Koto single notes, western and japanese tuning, recorded to a high end Telefunken M15 reel to reel and RME interfaces, now on patreon.com/hainbach. Drums too, of course.
Cheers m'dears!
Did you sample the percussion sets on this? :)
Appologies I just got to the end of the video THANKS! xxxx
KONNICHIWA HAINBACH-SAN.
There is always a surprise in your video.
You can hear very beautiful noises, music and groove from musical instruments and things like oscillator that I don't know if they are musical instruments.
I am a Japanese composer.
Through this video, I realized the goodness of Japan that we usually don't notice.
I'm looking forward to your video in the future.
Thank you very much.
You could imagine another universe where this became a genre-defining failure like the TB-303
I love how this can go from classic sounding Japanese instruments, to sounding like animal crossing. Marvelous
Arguably just runs soundfonts lmao
Maybe Behringer will make a clone of this, one day.
Except that it will have a -10dB noise floor unlike it's japanese predecessor xD
@behringer
Behringer components are not very high quality. Anyway it is a good idea to make a western mod with text you can read.
@DIV1NITAL But I would.
@DIV1NITAL I would... If I could!!
Man this synth would be great in a soundtrack of Ghost in the Shell Hainbach...Oh Yeah ! 😀
I've assumed at some point if I watch the channel enough I'll start hearing his samples that people bought from him in music that's not on the channel, in the wild, and with the quality and uniqueness of fingerprint of them I'd expect to identify a LOT of them lol
Exactly. That composition at the end reminded me a lot of the first GitS movie.
Lovely sounds. The kanji they use for Sui 水 and ko 光 actually mean water and light. Which I’m guessing characterises many of the sounds here, especially the strings.
The keys are actually labeled with the french music scale (do re mi fa sol la si do) just in katakana (ド レ ミ ファ ソ ラ シ ド). The sharp and flat are annotated next to it. Hope this helps!
Wow. That sounds amazing. It’s a shame they didn’t market it worldwide. That could have changed the direction of music in a lot of genres. I’d culturally appropriate the hell out of that. Thanks for another great video.
of course you would....it is made for that purpose lol
Cultural appropriation doesn't exist in music. It's an exchange of ideas.
@@user-lt2rw5nr9s It is not just possible but easy to use elements of music traditions in offensive ways, whether that be just by making a crude pastiche or removing religious music from a religious context. Reductive representations of music cultures are at their best annoying and their worst offensive. This isn't to say that it can't be an exchange of ideas because it absolutely can. It's just not always harmless.
@@Axel_Stewart Well who decides if it's offensive? Can't I call everyone outside Europe offensive for using Western music scales? Can't I call everyone who makes Jazz music in Japan offensive? What about Nazi Germany declaring Jewish composers offensive? Or during China's cultural revolution when they oulawed Western music? Or the time the Church banned the tritone? Let all music exist, and those who want to consume it, consume it. Those who don't, don't have to.
Is removing religion any different than taking the lush chords of Gospel and putting it into RnB, outside their religious context? Who cares anyway? If you don't like it, don't listen to it, moral authoritarian.
Annoying to whom? To you? Isn't there going to be at least one person who finds your music annoying? Just because it's annoying someone or offending someone are you going to stop? They can just stop listening.
Way too often people speak on behalf of other people to call things offensive. If it doesn't offend you personally, don't bother bringing it up. If it does, I probably couldn't care less. Just stop listening.
@@user-lt2rw5nr9s Continuing the argument to absurdity or comparing me to authoritarians isn't useful. Music has great cultural power and that power must be wielded with care. However convenient it is to believe that you are not responsible for the effects of your actions it is ultimately an act of willful ignorance. Generally the people who "get to decide if it's offensive" are the people whose musical culture is being referenced, and you don't get to decide that they are not offended because it's a personal response. The only ethical way to conduct yourself is to attempt to minimize harm.
Getting snes/early ps1 vibes so hard it hurts.
What a gorgeous track! The chords looped down were heart-string-pulling. Deep ambience!
Love the tuning and the chord button. Reminds me so much of Japanese game soundtracks unsurprisingly.
Had to miss the premiere because of class, which broke my heart. But, as always, great video!
Oh my, this is just incredible. I absolutely love the keyboard set up and sounds.
This was brilliant. Fantastic sounds, so flawed but they connect with you so immediately.
Thanks for the intro to this, again, I'd never heard of it which is always the joy of this channel. :)
Hi again Hainbach, good to see you again 😁
I have welcomed myself already, all the way from East Africa man.
Waiting...
About the notes on the keyboard, they are labeled in Solfege. It looks like the top row repeats {Fa-#, Sol, Ti-b (flat), Do-#, Re} 3 times from left to right. The bottom row repeats {Mi, Fa, La, Ti, Do} 3 times from left to right. I guess that would make the top row {F#, G, Bb, C#, D}x3 and the bottom row {E, F, A, B, C}x3. By the way, not sure if you already knew this, but the button you used to turn on the "beautifully weird chorus" is labelled "Vibrato" and the two sliders next to the display are Vibrato Speed (top) and Vibrato Depth (bottom).
those sounds are marvelous,thank you very much for making this!
Really cool piece! Always enjoy watching your videos exploring interesting tools like this.
This was absolutely beautiful. The end piece reminded me of the movie Stalker by Tarkovsky. Thank you so much for doing and sharing your work and passion!
I really like how the instrument selection slider is labelled as 音色 (tone/timbre), or more literally, "sound-color"
Wow stunning . The stings do just enough bend warping . Sounds so perfect
My wife is from Japan, next time I’m there I will look out for one of these. They have lots of great second hand stores. I love those 7th pad sounds. So many classic sounds you still hear on tv over there.
Finally, a synthesizer with an Eastern Scale ! This is such a lovely sounding instrument. It's even got percussion with Japanese Taiko Drums, stringed instruments and choral singing ~You are a very lucky person to have found this wonderful Eastern Synthesizer, now I'm on the lookout for one. Drink some real / herbal Chamomile Tea with a bit of honey in it to help your throat and your voice. Always works....it's an old Greek remedy ~⛅🌟
Even a piano has the exact notes this synth is tuned to. It's just fun to play on something that can play *only* one scale, as you can't really go wrong. If you have a DAW that can auto-correct to a particular scale you can do the same thing on your computer. It's really fun to bash the keys and play something in Japanese, Arabic, Pentatonic scales even with very little musical knowledge.
"Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence" / "Furyo" soundtrack 2.0.
I love that!
Discovered channel today. I know nothing about synthesizers, but this was captivating - I couldn't my eyes or ears away. I have so many questions now. Good job man.
Awesome video . So many great sounds from this little synth .
5:13 Nice
This synth has some really lovely sounds and the oriental scale makes it even better
🤣
Dr dre would be proud
When you halved the speed you opened a window into my soul.
I was seeing these on eBay way back when and they really interested me. Glad that you did a video on them!
Damn, this thing is amazing. What a deep and cinematical ambiance you can get out of it, that is crazy. Love it.
😍
Pls get one and sequence the samples in an octatrack for ultimate Zelda goodness 🖤😊 this is made for you
thealmightycommenter it IS made for me 😭
@@truecuckoo Better get it before it's gone: reverb.com/item/10372353-suiko-st50
lol Cuckoo I could tell you'd like this :D
You could score an entire Samurai film with that thing!
Half speed *is* the best speed. Again a feast to listen to a Hainbach video! Domo arigato!!
i love how you find fascinating musical devices. i really enjoyed your little tape machine thing you presented a while ago
from east germany, used decades ago with thread tape.
Sounds like a lot if classical anime OSTs and also as a lot of a classical D'n'B.
Sounds awsome! Why don’t you just make an Ambient album with this machine. I would definitely listen to it.
What a wonderful instrument. I particularly liked those traditional instrument samples such as the koto. Hope you get your voice back soon!
Great sound and harmony!
Rarest and casually the nicest sounding I've heard tbh
to me it looks like a piece of art... such a beautiful synth... if it also does music - it’s a win 🥰
Edit: now, after the premiere, I have to say that this thing is amazing!
And I love to watch you playing it 💪🏻👍🏻
Thats just cool. Thanks Hainbach.
Thank you, your videos are always so inspiring!
The sounds, while good enough on their own. I'd bet you could really get some even more sweet sounds from them with all the pedals and filters you have in your studio. How about "Hainbach's Suite for Suiko".
The track reminds me a lot of Remember by Oneohtrix Point Never! Great stuff as always.
Wow. Amazing. Never in a thousand years would I have expected this device to be able to produce such lovely sounds.
What a beautiful instrument Hainbach. And "never be exactly in time but might be interesting" gets quote of the week.
"I don't know what genre of synthwave that is" - to me this sounds like a perfect dreampunk track
i've always wondered how this sounded. and yeah this "round robin" on the same key is so important. took a while for people at elektron to get it right in the latest update for digitone.
Why would digitone need round robin? It doesn't use samples
@@raedius_music no you're right,it's not called round robin in synths, but similar. if same note is pressed twice the second cuts the first one, really anoying if it's something you don't want to happen. boutique ju-06 have same problem. real juno-106 did just go on to next free voice card if you pressed twice or more, i haven't tried latest ju-06a if roland fixed this, but i think they did not.
Thank you Hainbach
,, beautiful sounds..
Great sounds, and you're right really cinematic, music you've made in the end of video has that 80s electronic OSTs vibe!
I have the card Hainbach, I only swap for the rest of your gear
I love it! It seems like it could be only mildly related to the Omnichord!
great find and great jam at the end!
Amazing, I had just discovered this instrument last night while googling around for synths and today Hainbach is playing one! small world...
This is all of the 80s 90s and early 2000's anime background mixes in one.
Strange key layout. Luckily they printed the European note names (do, re, mi, fa etc) instead of the more traditional i, ro, ha, ni, ho, he, to (iroha) system, making it a bit easier - once you learn how to read the characters. Funny story: the iroha system is based on a 1000 year old Japanese poem that uses each syllabic character only once, and thus it also became the order of the "alphabet" for listing purposes.
In Japanese, when you want to tell someone to learn their ABC's, you say learn their "iroha", which can thus also translate as "the basics".
That is interesting!
you know what else is interesting? do-re-mi was invented nearly same way: gregorian monks had a latin chant, and each line began with a different syllable, and on a different note in the scale.
@@sleepCircle That is very interesting. I feel I have heard it somewhere before a long time ago and forgotten about it again.
@@hakonsoreide i love things like that! convergent evolution things.
like the japanese have an identical saying (in spirit, at least) to "too many cooks will spoil the broth."
it's "too many captains will steer the ship up a mountain"
I use an MPC with 16 pads , a piano style keyboard is alien to me , I do have a midi controller with regular keys but I tend to play my pads
Holy shit, I wasn't ready for this, amazing video
Beautiful synthesizer. Brilliant performer. The half speed is especially delightful
I took one look at the thumbnail and thought "eugh, this is gonna sound cheesy" and no it doesn't at all. I love its clean sound of those traditional japanese taiko drums and their other instruments, plus the strings are gorgeous.
It sounds far better than it looks.
What's the polyphony of it?
I performed with a taiko group for a couple of years, so I have a more critical ear where it comes to taiko samples. I would categorize this one as "not terrible, considering" -- good for reverby ambient/cinematic booms, but I probably wouldn't try to use it for taiko pieces as such.
Taiko drums are killer but some of the synth tones are so very Detroit while sounding so Japanese. Would love a clone version or just a complete sample pack for this in say a Volca sample library.
@@Decoy303 I was thinking the same for my Elelktron Model:Samples. That's got a really clean sound itself, so it would suit perfectly.
I'd be willing to pay for sample packs of some of the instruments in this synth
I just did!
@@kookle658 where?
@@iamdavezero you need to do his 3rd tier patreon...its $12 a month
@@kookle658 is it possible to just do one month and not a year? never used patron
@@iamdavezero I never have either plus I haven't actually downloaded yet I'm afraid of the exact same thing LOL
I message heinbach on patreon with that question awaiting his reply I don't want to squander my 1 download if that's how it works
WOW!! Amazing find!
Man. I love this sound and the look of this awesome synth!
And, HAINBACH, i absolutely love that reverant and almost devotional way you play this synth. You touch it like a lady should be touched - awesome
14:35
Selected Ambient Works Volume 2 part 2
What an interesting little synth. That Japanese scale kinda sounds like an harmonic minor, could be wrong. Would like this available as a soft synth 🤔
It's the Hira-joshi scale, which is one of the pentatonic scales in Japanese music. The bottom keys of this synth are supposed to sound like a Koto tuned to that scale.
I LOVE your 'avatar' pic, GNU_Ninja. I wouldn't dare to imagine the sound that dumbbell handle would make as it's dragged across her teeth!? I still haven't found the sequel to that one, BodyHammer!? I'll always be on the lookout though. The third one has something about it that I found a little reminiscent of the old HBO series "Freddy's Nightmares", or the "Tales From The Crypt" show. Good to know there's folks out there who appreciate edgy sci fi horror! Chu Ishikawa's sound track is inseparable from the film, I'm sad he passed on a lot sooner than I would have liked to imagine but he has left a pretty substantial mark that won't be erased.
the halfspeed moment contains the feelings and sounds i've been pursuing with some of my music since the beginning.
Thanks for the video; sounds amazing!
Any possibility we could get high quality audio samples of ST-50 sounds? If anyone knows of samples already available online please share the link!
Yes please!
Hopefully someone knows. I’m going crazy trying to find something close to it
You can use Sakura Plugin for the sounds its a default plugin in Fl but u can even bridge in ableton live or any other daw
There is a Japanese instrument on Garage Band
looks so organic and minimal, guess the sound should be pretty much the same
as soon as you switched the tape to half speed every hair on the back of my neck stood up. astounding.
Woo this is one great instrument. Precision. Sharp sounds. Voyage. Back and forth.
At 5:14 is that "Still D.R.E."? Hainbach??? (:
I had to, it came naturally on this :-)
glad i wasn't the only one who heard that XD
@@Hainbach 😎
I was waiting for the bass line. Nice touch... 👍🏻
I’m representing for the ninjas all across the world....
You do realise you multiply the price of these things whenever you mention them.
that thing looks so cool and sounds amazing too!!!
"Cinematic" - exactly the word I was thinking of when I heard this! Amazing...
Some of the sounds remind me of the Casio VL-1. :)
Edit: Also quite a Vangelis feel to it.
sounds like an inception of freshly baked witchhouse track
Yeeeee
@@Ian-lb6lc - Ooooohhh... There HAS TO BEEN one now.
My diseased soul will stay INCOMPLETE until it arrives!
Wow! It sounds fantastic!
Wow you hit the half speed @14:48 and it was straight up “Burial” vibes. Love it
I thought you said you asked KMac for help, very different musician
I binged his channel recently
Okay I am not the only one who thought he was talking about kmac2021 AKA Kmachiavelli AKA Djent King AKA Kmeme
16:10 feels like a distopian-ish styled music
the track you made at the end sounded amazing
Omg it sounds so beautiful when u put it in half speed, just wow
Could we have a 'best-of' set of voice samples from it also? Pleeeeease?
He says at the end that patreon supporters can get the samples :)
Patrons get the drums treated on tape, and I might do more, depending if Suiko is fine with that. I don’t want to disrespect them.
@@Hainbach give ya a tenner
Wouldn't be suprised if all the Age Of Empires soundtracks were made with this thing. It sounds incredible!
I used to love that game
Along with command and conquer and Warcraft
Ululu
Hainbach, it's good to be back
Great demo. You are a treasure sir!
Any possibility of a sample pack? I’d assume all of us would pay tons.
05:13 - "If you ain't up on thangs"
"Dr. Dre is the name, I'm ahead of my game".
A truly divine instrument. Thank you so much!
great sounds, well done!