i was just going to say that.... rofl. ah, good old Amiga days. fortunately, i was old enough to game, not old enough to know you could make music on it. 🤣.
Different days same problems. These days you run in the same issues if you try to add too many VSTs to your project. Not really a problem if you only use virtual instruments but when tracking real instruments it's a pain in the ass.
@@trashyraccoon2615 ya my bad. I was thinking of older Commodore sound chips, and the 12-bit rack samplers (e.g. Akai) that were popular for jungle beats at the time I guess, idk how I pulled 8-bit out of my ass. Good lookin out
This reminds me of being a small kid back in 91/92, and spending hours in my uncles room watching him cut together tracks. His room was just floor to ceiling vinyls, tapes, and 8 tracks, and him in the corner with his Amiga, synths, and hi-fi system blowing the roof off the place. It was quite the education 😂
@@RimshotsandNamaste I don’t think I have any of his stuff, he emigrated to Canada in 98, and he passed away from cancer in 2019, so I don’t know how much of his stuff is still around. I’ll have to email his husband to see if he kept anything, but as far as I know, all his gear was donated to a community music charity, but any of his old recordings and mixes would be on cassette, so it’s anyone’s guess where they could be
Cheers @horatio. It's funny the amount of gear I've played with over the years, yet this computer still provides me the most fun when it comes to making tunes.
@@CTRIX64 Awesome video dude! Inspired me to get more creative with less tools! @19:06 is this a Microbrute? If so, could you share this lead patch? Thank you! keep it up :)
I can't express how interesting this is. These days being able to program chart-topping beats on an average PC is a given but I've always wondered how things worked out back in the day. Also, these demo tracks sound like absolute bangers!
Back then PC's didn't have digital audio at all. Only the PC speaker, capable of beeps. Mac had digital audio since 84, but single channel. To play multiple channels and transpose pitches like Amiga could, the Mac had to use the CPU to do the work. The same ~8mhz 68000 chip that was in Amiga. But Amiga had the Paula chip, capable or playing back four channels of audio in hardware with no CPU load at all. So the CPU was left to do other things, running the UI, running the game that the music was used in, or later on with software mixing allowing more than four channels on Amiga. Octamed was a tracker allowing 8 channels for example. One thing I find interesting is because Paula is hardware, you'll notice in the video when he's triggering samples from the Amiga's keyboard, there is no perceptible latency. That was only possible later on PC with specific sound cards with their own playback hardware and their own ram, the Gravis UltraSound, the SoundBlaster AWE series and some others. Later it could all be done in software but latency was a big issue with software solutions until Steinberg invented and released the ASIO driver model.
I couldnt agree more! Ive been pouring over these videos and its amazing to learn about. Ive been composing with FL Studio for the past 3 years and I can see where they pulled from with these videos going over how it was done near the beginning! Ive been sharing these videos to everyone I know thats even remotely interested in music, I cannot get enough of this. And these tracks are FANTASTIC!
What do you mean, back then? There are tons of commercial hits out there made with FL Studio, Ableton and other producing software solutions. It doesn´t even cost you tons of money to get your hands on those products.
imagine, stumbeling on to this video, watching it, and realising you still have your "old" amiga 1200 carefully stocked in a room. running upstairs, unpacking it, and listening to the "crap" music you made yourself back in the early 90's.... i spent countless days fiddeling around with protracker, entering all them command to the notes.... ah nostalgia :D
This is called a "mash-up" song. But yeah, when it comes to make a song from samples of different songs, there would be hell to pay. Publishers sues, and pays the damage.
@@s.j.lattuf92 Mash-ups are mash-ups, they usually feature little editing. debuglive samples very tiny bits of the songs to create something completely different, I'm 100% sure no one would sue them
@@s.j.lattuf92 This type of thing falls under fair use. Also I think you misunderstood their point, they said NOT releasing these quality tracks is illegal (because they're really good) (it's a joke).
I remember as a kid going to a music store with a friend of mine and recording a lot of synthesizer sounds to a cassette tape for this exact usage. The staff had no idea what we were doing and why. :D
@@i3lueveinYeah. It's amazing how you loose tracks! Incredibly, most of my MOD music survived except for a few tracks on 5.25" floppy. Everything from the point where I switched to AWE32 + SF is gone. As is anything I did on our family digital piano + hardware arranger. I've got a roof-high stack of cassettes but it's all recordings from the radio. I know I often recorded over my demos because in my mind I could always re-load the floppies and record them to tape again. Crazy hey
@@i3luevein Haha - I didn't quite have that confidence as a 10yo. But by the time I came back around to electronic music I had my MD recorder and certainly did some "I want to listen at home before I commit to buying this" recordings. I'm sure they guessed what I was doing :-P Especially when I dropped back in for a 16GB smartmedia card a few days later.
I had an Amiga 500 and I remember discovering that most games contained audio samples. So I sat down for hours and copied them into categories onto separate floppy disks. octamed was the only music software I had
octamed wasnt bad. of course cpying sample-disks or ST-xx was commonplace in the BBS scene in which i was in. I still have the machines, sx64, atari ste, A500+, A1000, A4000 with vga and ethernet..., Only the harddrive did not make it.
@@DJBigDubs Doesn't sound like how he cuts up that Surface 7" around 14:14. Too bad he had to put in that DX lead again ( yep overused on the A is for Amiga album) But that part is bad ass! Get some synth filtered stabs in there and such. 12:14 before it gets a mess is also cool. I would press that on 12"
I just watched the history of the Amiga Commodore, "From Bedroom to Billionaires" and it amazes me that there were (are!) scenes like these, populated by highly passionate, talented people. That last mix is dope!
I guess that was stereo 16 bit 44kHz (btw not sure if it can handle 44 kHz) so runs so quickly out of mem. Regular samples were 8Khz mono 8 bits until ImpulseTracker
Yep, I had an Akai S-20 in the mid 90's which used a 1.44 MB "floppy" disk (the smaller one, not the actually floppy 5.5" kind) and it would hold a whole minute or so, haha
Even in the mid 90's I remember recording 10 seconds of a song off a CD and ran out of space :D It wasn't just the hard drive either, you'd run out of RAM fast.
Maybe memory was short at the time for a high samplerate stereo sampling BUT in thiat era the games/demos was equipped with amazing tunes. (C64 and) Amiga was the platform where those tunes really printed in and now 30+ years later people still able to remember to every note. Nowadays memory or sample rate isn’t a limit anymore and somehow i can’t remember the music of less than 3-5 yrs old “big” titles... C64 and Amiga tunes are unbeatable.
@@mister_mozzarella only the A For Amiga album is on Spotify, nothing else is. Funky Beat, Proto Mix, Thanks Roy and Miles Per Pattern can be found with a bit of Google searching, though.
@@mondox6481Beyond 2000 was a fantastic weekly popular science program in the 1980/90's!!! It showed new technologies and concepts for groundbraking technologies of the future. And the future was beyond the year 2000. In times long before the Internet, programs like that were gems! Each episode was like 25min of bliss :)
What a great comment, as a Streets of Rage fan, the soundtrack and the songs it ripped off got me into this genre. It's always nice to see other people see this connection too.
I wish I had such a tutorial when I was a kid back then. It took me 5 years to painstakingly assemble all that knowledge that is now packed up in a 10mn video
@@mikemeengs4124 To get longer samples, sure, but crappier. Let's be honest, no one at that time had the passion for samples artifacts, we just like them now because it's vintage :D
@@ChristianIce Since sampling time was short, speeding up the sample before sampling and then slowing down the sample for playback was a common technique. And yes, it added a lot of grit.
How smart were people back then, like your self, to improvise and make their own sound collection. I did not know my Amiga could do this, so Awesome. Good on ya, and also loved the Coldcut , Lisa Stansfield music..back when music was amazing! I did the same thing on my humble C64.
All right, this was awesome. I've always wanted to try this on my A500 so it's really cool to see the process laid out like this. Thanks for putting this together, looks like a ton of fun!
No problems Clint! HMU if you need any software (I'm sure you are on the GoTek or HXC tip!) I'd recommend ProTracker 2.3d with it's built in sampling options. It's just about the right combination of capable-but-limiting and is some serious fun. OctaMED really needed an Amiga 1200 with accelerator card to get 8 channels - I think people sometimes forget this. ps. I'm looking at making a limited run of Amiga 500 mono samplers later this year... so maaaay be able to send one your way ;-)
What a great trip down memory lane. I remember everything you talked about, the Amiga 500, the tracker software and trying to make home based dance tracks... As Fatboy Slim once said, "We've come a long way Baby!". What is amazing is that while watching this, you opened that software box only to reveal a receipt... Not any receipt, but it was from the mail order shop I was working for at that exact time judging from the date. I worked at MJC Supplies who were based in a town called Letchworth, Herts in UK. I probably packed that package! LoL. It was a great video to watch, thanks for this. Subscribed and Liked.
@@therocksolid yeah an Atari ST with C-Lab Creator (Creator --> Notator --> Notator Logic --> Logic, so an early version of what would become Logic), and Akai S950 samplers and outboard MIDI instruments
Rough times, the music production on the budget was very precarious back then, but it has its charm, and it looks nostalgic even to me who was born in 1990. To this day I still jamming to some oldskool UK Rave music that was probably done in this way, great video!
Man, you're a genius. I was such an idiot, back in the day I had literally all of this hardware/software sitting around. I had the tracker, the sampling card, an A500, big amounts of stereo equipment and a whole bunch of empty disks. As a 15 years old back then , I would have needed just this one little spark of an idea or inspiration to start a huge EDM DJ career. Unfortunately, there was no one around to show me how to get all this stuff to work together. Quite unfortunate. Back in the 90's there was a huge local radio station in Munich called 89 Hit FM/ Radio 2day, playing all kinds of music you used here, I loved that station. This video brought back many nice memories to the 90's.
I live in Scotland and my first attempt at covering a tune was Off - Electrica Salsa. Loved that tune and did the cover version from memory! Also seem to remember a "Sound of The Rhine" various artist tracks of German techno styles. Do you know the full name of that album?
Maybe one of the best TH-cam vids I've seen in ages. I collected mods and sids back in the day, was never brave enough to actually try and make my own. This has inspired me to get the Amiga out and give it a go! Thanks!
I was using sampling back in 1985 on my Amiga 1000. In 1986, I got an adapter to make my own sound samples which I used to make of instrument sounds. The device came with software to play back the samples in real-time using a MIDI keyboard, and also included the ability to save them in the Amiga's industry standard IFF format. My Amiga was used like an Ensoniq Mirage or Fairlight, in the mid 80s. I even had software that made the Amiga emulate the Mirage sampler and was compatible with disks made for it. I purchased 30 of them and used them in my bands. No other computer was even close to this ability in the mid 80s to run "soft synths". Later, the concept caught on with VST's, but the Amiga had that ability way back in 1985. The Atari ST''s sound chip by comparison was a huge step back from even the C-64, and actually the same chip used in the TI 99/4 produced back in 1979 or 80.
Man, I always get giddy over seeing old recording tech in action. Makes me really appreciate the tech we got now. Crazy to think that an iphone running garageband practically beats an entire recording studio in the 90s.
This is awesome. I had ProTracker on my A600 as a kid, but never really managed to make anything resembling real music. I had a few floppies with mod tracks that I loved listening to though. Seeing all those commands scrolling by was pure magic!
Wow! I had that Stereo Master sampler and had completely forgotten all about it. I remember there was a "Name that Tune" competition on the radio that played a music track in reverse. A friend and I recorded it and played through the Amiga to reverse the reversed track in order to cheat. Only problem was we still didn't know who the artist or track was when it was playing correctly 😂😂
Ha! I worked in radio in the early 00s and management had me put together a similar contest. I made sure to chop it up, reverse, and rearrange bits and pieces just so people couldn't do that! Even then, I kept having to make them harder. I suppose if it's someone's favorite tune perhaps there's a subconscious thing going on that triggers the response. That or luck. Some of them were barely intelligible, but we usually got a winner after a few hours.
Try limiting yourself in the beginning I just downloaded lots of vst plug-ins synths etc. And the more I got the worse my racks got. Even if there's an easier way by limiting you get more creative with the things you have and learn them way deeper. But never loose to wild with plug-ins on an experimantel day. And analog synths sound way better and have that hands on feeling and even got pretty cheap by now maybe try behringer for entry level. Maybe watch some videos bout old recording techniques they got pretty creative with the limits of their time even shaping whole genre's which would maybe never been born if they had everything at hand we have now. Anyway rock on :)
Around the time this was uploaded I was making a metal album with 90s dnb elements. I spent a lot of time researching how producers accomplished making their drum loops and breaks because I didn't have a sampler or MPC and was constructing the breaks bit by bit. I learned a lot of producers in the mid/late 90s were using the Amiga to assemble their music. They document themselves speeding up the sample and recording it and then slowing it down in the Amiga to save on memory! Something I didn't even have to consider when recording the EP. Recording it was difficult but this is like a whole other level of thinking about how music is created and assembled. How I didn't end up finding this video until now is beyond me, this would have been a massive help. Very interesting time in tech and music!
You could bake a pattern in Protracker into a sample, this made you able to use more instruments than 4 at once. Octamed was kind of a bad tracker from usability compared to Protracker, and realtime channel mixing was not really needed with pre-baking.
@@jimmyfandago3211 14bit? Did that use the output volume to increase the bitresolution? Technically there where only 4 8bit hardware channels and a master volume.
@@vast634 I dont know how they I did it in the software but it blow my mind back in the late 90s. Their was a diference in volume though and bit of lag when a song/track started. Track could be paned instead of hard left/right as well. I ran this on a 1200, a 500 would not do it. Check this out th-cam.com/video/oDXHSFLl4zc/w-d-xo.html
Exactly, we just had barely a handful of people. Thankfully the people I knew, knew a lot more than what I did. But I never got to hang out with them much, I was only a 10 year old...
Great memories! I used to make many songs with my Amiga 500, octamed and an interface to sample sounds with a microphone! I was a child...love my Amiga! ❤️
This is awesome 90s cheese. Man, that was the far west of informatics. We will never have another time as charming as the late 80s and early 90s were. I'm so happy to have been an Amiga user during my childhood.
What you said about using some minutes with your guitar teacher drum machine and recording the sounds to a cassete... dude, what a boss. That was sound engenering and sonic gold mining at a young age! It just blows my mind away. Also, thanks a ton for this video. Real quality material
I thoroughly enjoyed this blast from the past. I never had an Amiga back in the day. It wasn't till I was in my 30s that I was able to buy a 2000 for myself.
Holy shit! Firstly.. Amazing tune/sample selection my friend . Those fist few tracks were all in my 7” collection as a young lad at school that thought he was cooler than the rest because he bought these tracks instead of kylie and Rick Ashley. Secondly… you’ve just shown me how guys in their bedrooms made the music that I would go on to listen to when I went raving in the early 90’s. And thirdly.. you are one of those guys that is capable of producing those sounds and your are extremely good at it! If you ever come and do a set in the uk then I will legit come and see you play. My advice to you is get you and your kit to Ibiza and show some of those plastic music masters how it was done back in the day! You’ll revolutionise what’s going on out there bro! Just frigging awesome! ❤
An Amega sampler and octomed was the best ever thing my dear departed parents did for me. 30 years later I have a massive sample library stretching back to then and a decent home studio
I enjoyed every seconds of this as if i sneak into my parents room to steal radio and then doing some tunes in a room in that 2 storey small childhood house! i loved it
You have basically described my early teenage years! Including sneeking Dad's hi-fi into my bedroom! When I should have been doing homework, I was doing exactly this. Fantastic video, great trip down memory lane.
I used to make hip hop tracks in my teens with Fast Tracker 2 on my PC. I learnt how to use it by playing tracks that I found in the CD that came with the video game magazine I used to buy. so much fun!
cTrix, this video is truly amazing in every aspect. I'm saying this as a musician, computer tech and a kid from the '80s. Well done. Perfect editing and great music. You've got another subscriber.
Oh man, the hours I spent on my friends Amiga in ‘93, using Octamed and recording my shirt attempts to C90s when I should have been revising for my college course! Been using Reason for a decade and recently bought a Maschine MK3 and I still loving making music. 🥰
Wish I could just have all this sounds in a big sound pack with nice VSTs. Love this video! really cool to see how other fellow producers especially the OG's used to make their music.
This just popped into my recommendations today and i had no idea that you where cTrix until i saw the samplename at 14:31 , youre absolutely mad with the tracker and i love your music! please release more on spotify, im addicted.
I feel a bit bad for using the 64 as an example because I too love the C64! (and own 3 - all with different SID chips) I still love making the occasional C64 tune - but specifically for the SID sound. Back in 1990, you'd be heckled pretty hard for giving your friends a cassette with a SID tune on it. Plus I only ever had a basic composer program - far from what you can get now with modern C64 trackers.
My childhood. Although I never owned an Amiga (386 and Impulse Tracker), I used to listen to MODs until late 2000s and even recently some nostalgia brought back old tracks to me. Those were the days :)
Lol. I actually soldered a few kits in 1990. Some older dudes that lived up the road got some kits out of the mail but had no clue how to assemble them. I used to have some really cool tools and they said hey can you put these together? I did. After my dog chased the neighborhood bully up the road and that occasion they told the bully to leave me alone. I remember a few years later they had me wiring their cars with 12” speakers and I got to wire up a 4 gauge wire to a car battery, no fuse lol. Jesh that was like 30 + years ago. Jesh time has flown by. I still have a GM with the 3.5 floppy drive converted to a cd rom kit. She still rocks !
Ohhh sweet memories. I had a 80MB harddrive for my Amiga 500. It's a shame, it crashed someday. Almost all my samples and music we're on it ☹️. So i learned the hard way, that backups are essential.
That type of mods are maybe my favorite one. When you can intertwine samples so well that looks almost played live. One more of these modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=44403
"im just playing around here" *makes absolute jammer*
bring the bass in!
I use Analog Fire are basic I recommend margenweb.com/vs/analog_fire/analog_fire.php?vi=am-2
Really nice video. I like it how you showed us how the late 80's and early 90's dance music was made. 👌
"Pretty cheesy house track there!"
That's the beauty and power of trackers for ya.
Tfw this guy is jamming and making legit bangers
he makes great tunes under the name of ctrix
@Bertram Ocasio lol random
Ravine your mixes defined my highschool days man, gonna check out your new stuff now
nice seeing you here :D
@@merumerutho Thank you, you just answered my question!
“And we’ve run out out of memory” lol. Don’t miss any of that
Yeah but it stopped bloat. 4 tracks as well. If it was good you kept it otherwise it was out. Not 16 tracks of mediocrity.
@@wuxmedia Very true
i was just going to say that.... rofl. ah, good old Amiga days. fortunately, i was old enough to game, not old enough to know you could make music on it. 🤣.
Different days same problems. These days you run in the same issues if you try to add too many VSTs to your project. Not really a problem if you only use virtual instruments but when tracking real instruments it's a pain in the ass.
@@m4ssee I never run out of memory. Grab more maybe. Haha.
12 minutes in.. "Cheesy sounding house track"? Hell no, I love it! It's perfect to listen to while I'm running. I've cut it to a loop.
you obsessed
@@therealsteaklife70 🤣
ikr?! it slaps
Nothing wrong with enjoying a bit of cheese. I dig it too.
You should look into early house, breakbeat/rave/ techno etc. Way better stuff to hear from that history...literally thousands of tracks.
If that's cheesy house music, I guess I have cheesy music taste. That was fire
#tfw you realize how much 🔥 jungle was probably made on 8bit computers back in the day.
@@0v_x0 Amiga is 16bit
@@trashyraccoon2615 ya my bad. I was thinking of older Commodore sound chips, and the 12-bit rack samplers (e.g. Akai) that were popular for jungle beats at the time I guess, idk how I pulled 8-bit out of my ass. Good lookin out
@@0v_x0 Lol, it’s all good. Eh well, 8bit was pretty popular at the time. I’m friends with the dude in the video, he makes awesome shit
@@trashyraccoon2615 sweet, links? I use modern software for downtempo, but subscribe to a few old school sampler/tracker channels
This reminds me of being a small kid back in 91/92, and spending hours in my uncles room watching him cut together tracks.
His room was just floor to ceiling vinyls, tapes, and 8 tracks, and him in the corner with his Amiga, synths, and hi-fi system blowing the roof off the place.
It was quite the education 😂
Do you have access to any recordings he made? Would love to hear
@@bobsondugnutt5688 SAMEEE
Ahh, the good old days.
Can we listen to some stuff he did?
@@RimshotsandNamaste I don’t think I have any of his stuff, he emigrated to Canada in 98, and he passed away from cancer in 2019, so I don’t know how much of his stuff is still around. I’ll have to email his husband to see if he kept anything, but as far as I know, all his gear was donated to a community music charity, but any of his old recordings and mixes would be on cassette, so it’s anyone’s guess where they could be
I love how happy this guy sounds. He’s really in his element. 😄
I know, right? I instantly had the "awesome guy who knows its stuff" vibe, from the first seconds of the video. =D
Check out his album A for Amiga on band camp. It’s fantastic.
Cheers @horatio. It's funny the amount of gear I've played with over the years, yet this computer still provides me the most fun when it comes to making tunes.
@@Vitaliuz Definitely
@@CTRIX64 Awesome video dude! Inspired me to get more creative with less tools! @19:06 is this a Microbrute? If so, could you share this lead patch? Thank you! keep it up :)
I can't express how interesting this is. These days being able to program chart-topping beats on an average PC is a given but I've always wondered how things worked out back in the day. Also, these demo tracks sound like absolute bangers!
Back then PC's didn't have digital audio at all. Only the PC speaker, capable of beeps. Mac had digital audio since 84, but single channel. To play multiple channels and transpose pitches like Amiga could, the Mac had to use the CPU to do the work. The same ~8mhz 68000 chip that was in Amiga. But Amiga had the Paula chip, capable or playing back four channels of audio in hardware with no CPU load at all. So the CPU was left to do other things, running the UI, running the game that the music was used in, or later on with software mixing allowing more than four channels on Amiga. Octamed was a tracker allowing 8 channels for example. One thing I find interesting is because Paula is hardware, you'll notice in the video when he's triggering samples from the Amiga's keyboard, there is no perceptible latency. That was only possible later on PC with specific sound cards with their own playback hardware and their own ram, the Gravis UltraSound, the SoundBlaster AWE series and some others. Later it could all be done in software but latency was a big issue with software solutions until Steinberg invented and released the ASIO driver model.
I couldnt agree more! Ive been pouring over these videos and its amazing to learn about. Ive been composing with FL Studio for the past 3 years and I can see where they pulled from with these videos going over how it was done near the beginning! Ive been sharing these videos to everyone I know thats even remotely interested in music, I cannot get enough of this. And these tracks are FANTASTIC!
What do you mean, back then? There are tons of commercial hits out there made with FL Studio, Ableton and other producing software solutions. It doesn´t even cost you tons of money to get your hands on those products.
@@terenceskill9526 Did any of those softwares even exist in the 80-90´s? That's what we're talking about. Nowadays even a $500 laptop can run them.
@@darwiniandude Amiga could do 7 channels in TFMX format. 16 Channels and more depending on how good CPU you had in AMIGA.
This takes me back to 1993 when I was a 14 year old kid using FastTracker 2 with my SoundBlaster 16 to make music.
Pretty much the same as me, still got all my old tracker stuff.
i was off the amiga by 93, loved the clarity 16 bit sampler though. that was as far as i got with amiga hardware. then i went akai and atari st.
Making mods and XM files
hear hear.
@@zash721 33mhz 486sx and Gravis sound card. Ultrasound
imagine, stumbeling on to this video, watching it, and realising you still have your "old" amiga 1200 carefully stocked in a room. running upstairs, unpacking it, and listening to the "crap" music you made yourself back in the early 90's....
i spent countless days fiddeling around with protracker, entering all them command to the notes....
ah nostalgia :D
been there,done that :)
what you did here as an example is actually sounds dope
this is crazy, love it too!
We're talking about cTrix here, the guy is awesome.
Want tune at 1:47!!
@@alienproberecordings Look online for "cTrix - Funky Beat" :)
@@MarchandendYves cheers!!
th-cam.com/video/95u6l-yZGKo/w-d-xo.html
"You never forget the first time you saw an Amiga"..so true, i was 9, one of the best days of my life. ❤
It's ILLEGAL to make such jams and then not release them
This is called a "mash-up" song. But yeah, when it comes to make a song from samples of different songs, there would be hell to pay. Publishers sues, and pays the damage.
@@s.j.lattuf92 Mash-ups are mash-ups, they usually feature little editing. debuglive samples very tiny bits of the songs to create something completely different, I'm 100% sure no one would sue them
@@s.j.lattuf92 This type of thing falls under fair use. Also I think you misunderstood their point, they said NOT releasing these quality tracks is illegal (because they're really good) (it's a joke).
@@s.j.lattuf92 Sorry but this is literally how music is made and no one is suing anyone. These samples are tiny and edited beautifully.
@@drudigger the Warner Chappell does. Only if they sell their mash-up for money.
Dude you have a pony tail. You are a legit source of music production information.
I remember as a kid going to a music store with a friend of mine and recording a lot of synthesizer sounds to a cassette tape for this exact usage. The staff had no idea what we were doing and why. :D
haha yeh I did that too with my pals - wish I had kept some of our tracks, would bring back some great memories
@@i3lueveinYeah. It's amazing how you loose tracks! Incredibly, most of my MOD music survived except for a few tracks on 5.25" floppy. Everything from the point where I switched to AWE32 + SF is gone. As is anything I did on our family digital piano + hardware arranger. I've got a roof-high stack of cassettes but it's all recordings from the radio. I know I often recorded over my demos because in my mind I could always re-load the floppies and record them to tape again. Crazy hey
@@i3luevein Haha - I didn't quite have that confidence as a 10yo. But by the time I came back around to electronic music I had my MD recorder and certainly did some "I want to listen at home before I commit to buying this" recordings. I'm sure they guessed what I was doing :-P Especially when I dropped back in for a 16GB smartmedia card a few days later.
@@i3luevein yeah, kinda sad that i don´t have my early tapes anymore... i bet there´d be some songs that´d surprise me today :)
😈😎
I had an Amiga 500 and I remember discovering that most games contained audio samples. So I sat down for hours and copied them into categories onto separate floppy disks. octamed was the only music software I had
octamed wasnt bad.
of course cpying sample-disks or ST-xx was commonplace in the BBS scene in which i was in.
I still have the machines, sx64, atari ste, A500+, A1000, A4000 with vga and ethernet...,
Only the harddrive did not make it.
so freaking dope
Gonna break the bank now, fuck my cracked version of fl20 and all the vst3 shit i got.
No sickick, you are dope
Hey, Lomaticc. 😉
This Man is so passionate about what he does, it really warms up my cold, shallow heart
Dude you have some serious skills. I wish I saw this video in the 80's/90's...
Indeed!
His artist name is c trix. Check out his album A for Amiga on Band Camp. It’s killer.
@@DJBigDubs Doesn't sound like how he cuts up that Surface 7" around 14:14. Too bad he had to put in that DX lead again ( yep overused on the A is for Amiga album) But that part is bad ass! Get some synth filtered stabs in there and such. 12:14 before it gets a mess is also cool. I would press that on 12"
in the 80s? Lol, how?
@@Madrrrrrrrrrrr Yeah - the DX lead I'm on the fence about still! Thinking of making it straight up instrm groove disco.
I just watched the history of the Amiga Commodore, "From Bedroom to Billionaires" and it amazes me that there were (are!) scenes like these, populated by highly passionate, talented people. That last mix is dope!
As someone who basically grew up on tracker music, I would like to thank you very much. This melted my heart.
5:15 -- samples for 3 seconds, "And, we're out of memory."
I guess that was stereo 16 bit 44kHz (btw not sure if it can handle 44 kHz) so runs so quickly out of mem.
Regular samples were 8Khz mono 8 bits until ImpulseTracker
Yep, I had an Akai S-20 in the mid 90's which used a 1.44 MB "floppy" disk (the smaller one, not the actually floppy 5.5" kind) and it would hold a whole minute or so, haha
Even in the mid 90's I remember recording 10 seconds of a song off a CD and ran out of space :D It wasn't just the hard drive either, you'd run out of RAM fast.
and now you can have a 1tb drive no bigger than one of your finger nails !
Maybe memory was short at the time for a high samplerate stereo sampling BUT in thiat era the games/demos was equipped with amazing tunes. (C64 and) Amiga was the platform where those tunes really printed in and now 30+ years later people still able to remember to every note. Nowadays memory or sample rate isn’t a limit anymore and somehow i can’t remember the music of less than 3-5 yrs old “big” titles...
C64 and Amiga tunes are unbeatable.
dude, this songs are actually fire
edit: PLEASE RELEASE THEM SOMEWHERE!!!!
please share these songs! they are awesome, thanks!
They are here. XD
Sample it!
This guy makes music on Spotify as cTrix
@@mister_mozzarella only the A For Amiga album is on Spotify, nothing else is. Funky Beat, Proto Mix, Thanks Roy and Miles Per Pattern can be found with a bit of Google searching, though.
We need all tracks you made in this video released !
This is gold content !
Thank you
I joined the cause
❤
I joined the cause
Your videos have incredible production values. I feel like I am watching an episode of Beyond 2000. I am sure you will remember that show ;)
Okay do you remember the show before that Towards 2000. I had just started primary school 😷
@@ianteddy I had just graduated from school(17 y.o) :)
What the heck is Beyond 2000?
@@mondox6481Beyond 2000 was a fantastic weekly popular science program in the 1980/90's!!! It showed new technologies and concepts for groundbraking technologies of the future. And the future was beyond the year 2000.
In times long before the Internet, programs like that were gems! Each episode was like 25min of bliss :)
@@amjan Thank you for the info! I will look it up now lol
aaaand we're outta memory. Omg, the nostalgia!
devjock could be a techno song
Time to look into getting more.
Sample that sentence and make a song :)
"cheesy house track"
A million Streets of Rage fans begin to weep
I like cheese, specially cheddar
@Lemony Snickers I must be listening to a different psytrance coz i hear no cheese.
I like cheese
Saw the word rage and thought about how the prodigy sampled rage against the machine for fire starter
What a great comment, as a Streets of Rage fan, the soundtrack and the songs it ripped off got me into this genre. It's always nice to see other people see this connection too.
This video is what TH-cam was meant for IMO.
These days you have to dig around to come across gems like this.
I wish I had such a tutorial when I was a kid back then. It took me 5 years to painstakingly assemble all that knowledge that is now packed up in a 10mn video
but it was fun!
I remember slowing down the tape with a little 4 track before sampling and playing at higher pitch afterwards.
Top quality, dude
I did the opposite.
@@mikemeengs4124
To get longer samples, sure, but crappier.
Let's be honest, no one at that time had the passion for samples artifacts, we just like them now because it's vintage :D
@@ChristianIce Since sampling time was short, speeding up the sample before sampling and then slowing down the sample for playback was a common technique. And yes, it added a lot of grit.
@@mikemeengs4124
Isn't that what I said?
@@ChristianIce You mentioned doing the opposite. For higher quality. Right?
That "cheesy sounding house track" had me backspinning
How smart were people back then, like your self, to improvise and make their own sound collection. I did not know my Amiga could do this, so Awesome. Good on ya, and also loved the Coldcut , Lisa Stansfield music..back when music was amazing! I did the same thing on my humble C64.
All right, this was awesome. I've always wanted to try this on my A500 so it's really cool to see the process laid out like this. Thanks for putting this together, looks like a ton of fun!
No problems Clint! HMU if you need any software (I'm sure you are on the GoTek or HXC tip!) I'd recommend ProTracker 2.3d with it's built in sampling options. It's just about the right combination of capable-but-limiting and is some serious fun. OctaMED really needed an Amiga 1200 with accelerator card to get 8 channels - I think people sometimes forget this. ps. I'm looking at making a limited run of Amiga 500 mono samplers later this year... so maaaay be able to send one your way ;-)
Amiga forever ! :) I wonder what an Amiga 1200 would bring to it (more memory aside). ;-)
SIT ON MY FACE CLINT!!!!!!!
LGR SIT ON MY FACE CLINT!!!!
geeeetings, this is an LGR amiga thing...
>"pretty cheesy"
> actually 1000x fire than most things released today
I remember Guitar Slinger. My mate and I were amazed by the quality of that track. Such a good song.
That wierd feeling of "Now that this technology is obsolete, let me see a tutorial on it..."
Great history lesson though...
So a great video! This is the story of all of us, condensed in 20 minutes... thanks!
What a great trip down memory lane. I remember everything you talked about, the Amiga 500, the tracker software and trying to make home based dance tracks... As Fatboy Slim once said, "We've come a long way Baby!". What is amazing is that while watching this, you opened that software box only to reveal a receipt... Not any receipt, but it was from the mail order shop I was working for at that exact time judging from the date. I worked at MJC Supplies who were based in a town called Letchworth, Herts in UK. I probably packed that package! LoL. It was a great video to watch, thanks for this. Subscribed and Liked.
haha thats nuts
It's funny you mention Norman Cook here as he wrote that famous stuff on an Atari ST, not an Amiga :)
@@therocksolid yeah an Atari ST with C-Lab Creator (Creator --> Notator --> Notator Logic --> Logic, so an early version of what would become Logic), and Akai S950 samplers and outboard MIDI instruments
Rough times, the music production on the budget was very precarious back then, but it has its charm, and it looks nostalgic even to me who was born in 1990. To this day I still jamming to some oldskool UK Rave music that was probably done in this way, great video!
Man, you're a genius. I was such an idiot, back in the day I had literally all of this hardware/software sitting around. I had the tracker, the sampling card, an A500, big amounts of stereo equipment and a whole bunch of empty disks. As a 15 years old back then , I would have needed just this one little spark of an idea or inspiration to start a huge EDM DJ career. Unfortunately, there was no one around to show me how to get all this stuff to work together. Quite unfortunate.
Back in the 90's there was a huge local radio station in Munich called 89 Hit FM/ Radio 2day, playing all kinds of music you used here, I loved that station. This video brought back many nice memories to the 90's.
You blew it Zoli.
u got it or u fack it
never too late to get back into it!
(:
I live in Scotland and my first attempt at covering a tune was Off - Electrica Salsa. Loved that tune and did the cover version from memory! Also seem to remember a "Sound of The Rhine" various artist tracks of German techno styles. Do you know the full name of that album?
Most of us have some of these regrets dude. Don't dwell on it or it will eat you up.
Maybe one of the best TH-cam vids I've seen in ages. I collected mods and sids back in the day, was never brave enough to actually try and make my own. This has inspired me to get the Amiga out and give it a go! Thanks!
Awesome! No Amiga likes to be left feeling sad in a cupboard. Hopefully the floppies still read - else, check out a GoTek :-)
Guitar slinger - That music track blew my mind back then. I never thought the Amiga could produce music of such high quality.
I was using sampling back in 1985 on my Amiga 1000. In 1986, I got an adapter to make my own sound samples which I used to make of instrument sounds. The device came with software to play back the samples in real-time using a MIDI keyboard, and also included the ability to save them in the Amiga's industry standard IFF format.
My Amiga was used like an Ensoniq Mirage or Fairlight, in the mid 80s. I even had software that made the Amiga emulate the Mirage sampler and was compatible with disks made for it. I purchased 30 of them and used them in my bands. No other computer was even close to this ability in the mid 80s to run "soft synths". Later, the concept caught on with VST's, but the Amiga had that ability way back in 1985. The Atari ST''s sound chip by comparison was a huge step back from even the C-64, and actually the same chip used in the TI 99/4 produced back in 1979 or 80.
I was doing the same. It was great for the time and easy to use.
12:03 ''BRING THE BASS IN!'' Hahaha wow amazing!
Man, I always get giddy over seeing old recording tech in action. Makes me really appreciate the tech we got now. Crazy to think that an iphone running garageband practically beats an entire recording studio in the 90s.
This is what I call top quality content. Good job, enjoy every second of the video. An explosion of creativity and passion for music. Congratulations.
"Top quality" and "content" basically contradict, because "content" is filler garbage like TikToks. This here is a fully-blown documentary.
This is awesome. I had ProTracker on my A600 as a kid, but never really managed to make anything resembling real music. I had a few floppies with mod tracks that I loved listening to though. Seeing all those commands scrolling by was pure magic!
With a three finger salute, the amega will boot.
2 in the pink and one in the stink
Wow! I had that Stereo Master sampler and had completely forgotten all about it. I remember there was a "Name that Tune" competition on the radio that played a music track in reverse. A friend and I recorded it and played through the Amiga to reverse the reversed track in order to cheat. Only problem was we still didn't know who the artist or track was when it was playing correctly 😂😂
Ha! I worked in radio in the early 00s and management had me put together a similar contest. I made sure to chop it up, reverse, and rearrange bits and pieces just so people couldn't do that! Even then, I kept having to make them harder. I suppose if it's someone's favorite tune perhaps there's a subconscious thing going on that triggers the response. That or luck. Some of them were barely intelligible, but we usually got a winner after a few hours.
He is making better songs on this than I do in Ableton. Witch craft.
Trackers just make awesome tunes, try Renoise for the modern day.
Don't forget SunVox
@@synthoelectro renoise is my first daw. pretty decent. just got into music so it'll take a bit before I make total bangers.
@@YlowX7 very cool, my first stab at making electronic music was Fast Tracker II, back in 98
Try limiting yourself in the beginning I just downloaded lots of vst plug-ins synths etc. And the more I got the worse my racks got. Even if there's an easier way by limiting you get more creative with the things you have and learn them way deeper. But never loose to wild with plug-ins on an experimantel day. And analog synths sound way better and have that hands on feeling and even got pretty cheap by now maybe try behringer for entry level. Maybe watch some videos bout old recording techniques they got pretty creative with the limits of their time even shaping whole genre's which would maybe never been born if they had everything at hand we have now. Anyway rock on :)
Around the time this was uploaded I was making a metal album with 90s dnb elements. I spent a lot of time researching how producers accomplished making their drum loops and breaks because I didn't have a sampler or MPC and was constructing the breaks bit by bit. I learned a lot of producers in the mid/late 90s were using the Amiga to assemble their music. They document themselves speeding up the sample and recording it and then slowing it down in the Amiga to save on memory! Something I didn't even have to consider when recording the EP. Recording it was difficult but this is like a whole other level of thinking about how music is created and assembled. How I didn't end up finding this video until now is beyond me, this would have been a massive help. Very interesting time in tech and music!
"The infamous LOUDNESS button" hahahaha, so true!
It was all a mid-scooped downhill slide from there! But hey, it left room for the vocals (if you had any)
11:57 This song is a whole vibe right there!
I made so many tunes in Octamed. One of which made it to 12" white label and resulted in a copyright complaint. Job done, 90's style.
You could bake a pattern in Protracker into a sample, this made you able to use more instruments than 4 at once. Octamed was kind of a bad tracker from usability compared to Protracker, and realtime channel mixing was not really needed with pre-baking.
Nice!
@@vast634 Octamed later version (I think 6), you could resamaple and have 14bit playback and 8 tracks.
@@jimmyfandago3211 14bit? Did that use the output volume to increase the bitresolution? Technically there where only 4 8bit hardware channels and a master volume.
@@vast634 I dont know how they I did it in the software but it blow my mind back in the late 90s. Their was a diference in volume though and bit of lag when a song/track started. Track could be paned instead of hard left/right as well. I ran this on a 1200, a 500 would not do it. Check this out th-cam.com/video/oDXHSFLl4zc/w-d-xo.html
the real era of electronic music.Things were so much more romantic and creative back then.I love that journey much more than using a DAW today.
The Amiga was truly an amazing piece of hardware. So many hours spent playing with music and games :)
you've solved a 27 year mystery for a 10 year old me. I've always wondered how to get sound into an Amiga.
My younger brother used to use ScreamTracker on the PC to make music. I never understood it, but I still collect MOD files!
@MorbidManMusic Formal Beach Wear. they didn't have Google back then... :p
Exactly, we just had barely a handful of people. Thankfully the people I knew, knew a lot more than what I did. But I never got to hang out with them much, I was only a 10 year old...
Great memories! I used to make many songs with my Amiga 500, octamed and an interface to sample sounds with a microphone! I was a child...love my Amiga! ❤️
You're a killer! I'd love to hear a full arranged track of the tune at 14:20
12:03 "BRING THE BASS IN!" caught me totally off guard
@@stephenemmett9753 he was very much feeling that track lmao
thanks for ruining it
What bass sound is that? love it
@@arthurmartins5495 That's what you get for reading the comments before watching the video. Who does that?
No need to state the obvious, This is so finely polished, the attention to detail is stunning, the whole thing flows so well it's Simply Marvellous
This is literally amazing! The amiga was light years ahead of the competition in terms of sound back then. In fact, Commodore in general was.
13:30 That sounds amazing, i love that. When the beat went from chaos to something more standard it was really nice
90s house arcane game music vibe
18:55 Where the line "I'm old but not obsolete" really makes sense!
I think there is some charm to those low fi samples that has place even today.
i didn't know people had this much passion for creating music on a computer, these softwares are kinda good for the hardware.
This is awesome 90s cheese. Man, that was the far west of informatics. We will never have another time as charming as the late 80s and early 90s were. I'm so happy to have been an Amiga user during my childhood.
I hope you release some of these tracks you did. This was dope.
Karsten Obarski should be given the nobel prize for something! and a really nice track you made!
"Knobs everywhere"? Now now, I'm sure they were very nice people when you got to know them :D
What you said about using some minutes with your guitar teacher drum machine and recording the sounds to a cassete... dude, what a boss. That was sound engenering and sonic gold mining at a young age! It just blows my mind away.
Also, thanks a ton for this video. Real quality material
This is really important history. Thank you for documenting it! I really need to open up fast tracker sometime and go thru some old projects.
Thank you! It's super fun looking at those old projects :-)
I thoroughly enjoyed this blast from the past. I never had an Amiga back in the day. It wasn't till I was in my 30s that I was able to buy a 2000 for myself.
14:20 i can't believe how groovy that is you are a genius
Paul Hardcastle would have been proud.
Holy shit! Firstly.. Amazing tune/sample selection my friend . Those fist few tracks were all in my 7” collection as a young lad at school that thought he was cooler than the rest because he bought these tracks instead of kylie and Rick Ashley. Secondly… you’ve just shown me how guys in their bedrooms made the music that I would go on to listen to when I went raving in the early 90’s. And thirdly.. you are one of those guys that is capable of producing those sounds and your are extremely good at it! If you ever come and do a set in the uk then I will legit come and see you play. My advice to you is get you and your kit to Ibiza and show some of those plastic music masters how it was done back in the day! You’ll revolutionise what’s going on out there bro! Just frigging awesome! ❤
An Amega sampler and octomed was the best ever thing my dear departed parents did for me. 30 years later I have a massive sample library stretching back to then and a decent home studio
Fantastic video. Really took me back to the early 90s. Thank you!
14:20 I absolutely love this. I wish I had access to this kind of stuff.
I enjoyed every seconds of this as if i sneak into my parents room to steal radio and then doing some tunes in a room in that 2 storey small childhood house! i loved it
12:04 Dude that sounds freaking beautiful! I would totally pay for a full version of that
Seconded
There's something similar to it on my channel which I released at Syntax 2021, the demoparty that ctrix (debuglive) runs. Called Cold Cut House 2 :)
You have basically described my early teenage years! Including sneeking Dad's hi-fi into my bedroom!
When I should have been doing homework, I was doing exactly this. Fantastic video, great trip down memory lane.
It was that or rush the Amiga to the lounge and try and run a crappy RF cable to the TV via the VHS machine!
This brought back a flood of memories.
14:08 onwards blew me away..
I used to make hip hop tracks in my teens with Fast Tracker 2 on my PC. I learnt how to use it by playing tracks that I found in the CD that came with the video game magazine I used to buy. so much fun!
cTrix, this video is truly amazing in every aspect. I'm saying this as a musician, computer tech and a kid from the '80s. Well done. Perfect editing and great music. You've got another subscriber.
Oh man, the hours I spent on my friends Amiga in ‘93, using Octamed and recording my shirt attempts to C90s when I should have been revising for my college course!
Been using Reason for a decade and recently bought a Maschine MK3 and I still loving making music. 🥰
Orion platinum forever
I love how thorough you are in explaining all this!
Wish I could just have all this sounds in a big sound pack with nice VSTs. Love this video! really cool to see how other fellow producers especially the OG's used to make their music.
This just popped into my recommendations today and i had no idea that you where cTrix until i saw the samplename at 14:31 , youre absolutely mad with the tracker and i love your music! please release more on spotify, im addicted.
Made in 2020 feels like 1990 with the sound with the raw mixing
I am nearing the 50 and I still love the C64 music and sound :)
I feel a bit bad for using the 64 as an example because I too love the C64! (and own 3 - all with different SID chips) I still love making the occasional C64 tune - but specifically for the SID sound. Back in 1990, you'd be heckled pretty hard for giving your friends a cassette with a SID tune on it. Plus I only ever had a basic composer program - far from what you can get now with modern C64 trackers.
This video has some certified Rave House Bangers, holy moly!
I need urgently an EP with all those tunes.
thank you thank you , so many amiga 500 scene days i remember them... Paula, MC68000 , Bobs, Denise, Angus oh lovely......Brilliant video!!
That sounds frick'n AMAZING!! Nothing "cheesy" about any of it whatsoever! Fantastic sounds, chords, stabs, basslines and beats! 😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
My childhood. Although I never owned an Amiga (386 and Impulse Tracker), I used to listen to MODs until late 2000s and even recently some nostalgia brought back old tracks to me. Those were the days :)
Lol. I actually soldered a few kits in 1990. Some older dudes that lived up the road got some kits out of the mail but had no clue how to assemble them. I used to have some really cool tools and they said hey can you put these together? I did. After my dog chased the neighborhood bully up the road and that occasion they told the bully to leave me alone. I remember a few years later they had me wiring their cars with 12” speakers and I got to wire up a 4 gauge wire to a car battery, no fuse lol. Jesh that was like 30 + years ago. Jesh time has flown by. I still have a GM with the 3.5 floppy drive converted to a cd rom kit. She still rocks !
Ohhh sweet memories. I had a 80MB harddrive for my Amiga 500. It's a shame, it crashed someday. Almost all my samples and music we're on it ☹️. So i learned the hard way, that backups are essential.
OMG Guitar Slinger - massive nostalgia hit there. I used to listen to that over and over again. Great tune
That type of mods are maybe my favorite one. When you can intertwine samples so well that looks almost played live. One more of these modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=44403
Agreed, This one made me dig to see if I still have my mod collection from back in the day. I couldn't find it :(
Remember Soul o' da Lunatic? Or something like that. My favorite tracker song
@@Rehd66 found it :) modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=49519
Oh, how I miss those days. Sneaking all kinds of radios, cassette players, video players from the living-room and into my room to sample things.
Great video. Fast tracker 2 on PC. Great memories. A lot of good music was made by using the trackers back in the days. 🎹😃