I just used this deck and faced a big warrior with no rattlegore. My Mutanus hit a Shadow Hunter Vol’jin, interesting strat with Athletic Studies. Barely squeaked out the win when he went to fatigue and had 4 cards left.
I'm pretty sure everyone hates OTK DH but God that was actually a pretty smart way to build the deck. The tradeable stuff when combined with Kurtrus is bonkers. Bravo to both Kibler and the opponent for that game.
OTK DH is not as much of a problem as Quest Mage or Warlock. People who hates OTK DH probably never played the deck and only remember being on the receiving end of an OTK, but can’t relate to the struggles of playing OTK DH
@@blue-phoenix115 That goes to show how much of a bad design it is. They either get their combo and their opponent has a bad time or they don't and they have a bad time. It's a deck that one of the players always has a bad time playing, that's the definition of bad design.
@@keremcantarhan I could use your logic and apply it to a majority of card game matchups. Then by that same logic, games where players win by getting better cards = *a bad design*
Having played a fair amount of DH, I think he was probably calculating whether he could afford to play il'gynoth or needed to use the blast to gain life. I had to do the math a ton when I was playing the deck - you're usually taking at least a turn or two in the midgame to get a big lifegain burst before you can get the right pieces and discounts. It was fun to play even if it wasn't fun to play against - but it's dead as a doornail now. Discounts for il'gynoth, but everything else is dust wasted. Great.
8:35 Do cannonballs inflict 4 damage because the sourse of damage is a quest, so it counts as a spell for Mo'arg? Edit: damn, he explained this just 10 seconds later
This is legitimately the first deck from Stormwind that I've enjoyed playing. I usually favor the type of slightly-off-meta, control-y decks that Kibler plays, and it has been MISERABLE playing since the expansion dropped.
yeah, I agree. I came back in summer to play with my tablet, and got away the next day once I figured out the meta. What an awful meta omg. Battlegrounds FTW
Well what I did was I copied the link of this video and open it in the chrome. Then you are supposed to be in the web version of this TH-cam video and you can just copy the deck list from the description there.
@@hunggujh6848 I mean, that seems a little unnecessary but if it works for you then go ahead. It only takes like a minute to just put the cards in a new deck but if your way is faster go for it
And in a lot of other games he'd have taken a turn longer to kill his opponent by trading earlier which would have let them get the full 30+ damage combo. Stop making overall gameplay choices off one random event. It's bad play to trade against an OTK deck when you're not at risk of dying to anything other than the OTK.
@@Arrakiz666 And the odds of them being able to do exactly 24 damage but not 30 are FAR slimmer than the chance of you taking a turn longer to kill him by losing 7 damage to their face. You lose more games than you win by trading in that position by a long way.
@@daniellucas5522 If one calculated the damage output of the Fellscream and Moargs, they would reach the conclusion that, in fact, the maximum output is 36 (this can of course be done twice, so the "real" total output is 72). He could have easily calculated his life to know whether he was inside or outside that range. Trading was always a better move, because DH's combo does not deal infinite damage. With a Priest, Mage or Druid, yeah, you could argue it's better because those classes have many ways of creating new resources through discoveries, DH doesn't.
@@Arrakiz666 Before this expansion that was true, but with the quest discounts and the tradeable 2 spell damage minion it's not anymore. 3 spell damage is a 48 damage combo and there's not enough armor in the entire deck to prevent that. Realistically, the full combo kills him no matter what, and he's never going to die to anything else before he kills the DH. The ONLY scenario where trading is better is where the opponent can kill him with a partial OTK but doesn't have the full combo, which is, as I said, far rarer than the opponent getting an extra turn because you stop to trade, which lets them pull off the full combo.
This extension is si boôooooooring! I'm usually enjoying this time with kibler showing interesting decks. Now he just get rekt at turn 7 by quest noob p2play... Change game please, blizzard is killing HS liked they killed Wow with WOD...
Gotta love those interactable solitaire decks. 😏
0:58 - quote of the year
Wow that mo'arg interaction was surprising
That’s what I was thinking. This should be higher
I love that it’s the same music as the one from HIMYM whenever Barney is explaining a play in the playbook
That DH game was so frustrating to watch. Hope they fix this meta soon
Its actually the most manageable. You can snag minions from his hand, not just the quest reward. Also it doesnt kill you turn 7 at least...
I just used this deck and faced a big warrior with no rattlegore. My Mutanus hit a Shadow Hunter Vol’jin, interesting strat with Athletic Studies.
Barely squeaked out the win when he went to fatigue and had 4 cards left.
If you didn't keep putting out interesting decks I would have already walked away from the game. Thank you for trying out cool stuff!
I'm pretty sure everyone hates OTK DH but God that was actually a pretty smart way to build the deck. The tradeable stuff when combined with Kurtrus is bonkers. Bravo to both Kibler and the opponent for that game.
I wouldn t put that much faith in the opponent's deck building capabilities , 99% of the playerbase netdecks
OTK DH is not as much of a problem as Quest Mage or Warlock. People who hates OTK DH probably never played the deck and only remember being on the receiving end of an OTK, but can’t relate to the struggles of playing OTK DH
@@blue-phoenix115 The struggles are irrelevant if it's a solitaire deck
@@blue-phoenix115 That goes to show how much of a bad design it is. They either get their combo and their opponent has a bad time or they don't and they have a bad time. It's a deck that one of the players always has a bad time playing, that's the definition of bad design.
@@keremcantarhan I could use your logic and apply it to a majority of card game matchups. Then by that same logic, games where players win by getting better cards = *a bad design*
Went 1-9 with this deck lol, just died on turn 6-7 almost every game. Played rokara once.
Switched to big warrior and went 8-2 :D
Having played a fair amount of DH, I think he was probably calculating whether he could afford to play il'gynoth or needed to use the blast to gain life. I had to do the math a ton when I was playing the deck - you're usually taking at least a turn or two in the midgame to get a big lifegain burst before you can get the right pieces and discounts.
It was fun to play even if it wasn't fun to play against - but it's dead as a doornail now. Discounts for il'gynoth, but everything else is dust wasted. Great.
Shout out for pupper cam.
SO TRUE
8:35
Do cannonballs inflict 4 damage because the sourse of damage is a quest, so it counts as a spell for Mo'arg?
Edit: damn, he explained this just 10 seconds later
This is legitimately the first deck from Stormwind that I've enjoyed playing. I usually favor the type of slightly-off-meta, control-y decks that Kibler plays, and it has been MISERABLE playing since the expansion dropped.
yeah, I agree. I came back in summer to play with my tablet, and got away the next day once I figured out the meta. What an awful meta omg. Battlegrounds FTW
Kibler is out of bubble gum
Is there any way you can get the deck code for mobile? :(
Just build the deck. He has the list on the side
Well what I did was I copied the link of this video and open it in the chrome.
Then you are supposed to be in the web version of this TH-cam video and you can just copy the deck list from the description there.
Sorry for my language as it was my secondary language
@@hunggujh6848 I mean, that seems a little unnecessary but if it works for you then go ahead. It only takes like a minute to just put the cards in a new deck but if your way is faster go for it
How did the Warlock take 2 damage and complete their quest at 3:50?
Stealer of souls turned the mana cost into health
The Darkglare had been afected by Stealer of Souls, it costed health instead of mana
Too many OTK from an empty board options in the game. I hope the nerfs do something for the game.
Me literally don't play much hearthstone since latest expansion.... shows in second match!
Man I haven't checked the channel ina while... Omg, is Mel Gibson your father?
If he killed the demon reward guy, he'd have also won and he didn't even mention that... Let this be a lesson to you people: TRADE.
And in a lot of other games he'd have taken a turn longer to kill his opponent by trading earlier which would have let them get the full 30+ damage combo.
Stop making overall gameplay choices off one random event. It's bad play to trade against an OTK deck when you're not at risk of dying to anything other than the OTK.
@@daniellucas5522 He was _very much_ at risk of dying to something other than the OTK. Or, should I say, the 7 damage hit AND the OTK.
@@Arrakiz666 And the odds of them being able to do exactly 24 damage but not 30 are FAR slimmer than the chance of you taking a turn longer to kill him by losing 7 damage to their face. You lose more games than you win by trading in that position by a long way.
@@daniellucas5522 If one calculated the damage output of the Fellscream and Moargs, they would reach the conclusion that, in fact, the maximum output is 36 (this can of course be done twice, so the "real" total output is 72). He could have easily calculated his life to know whether he was inside or outside that range. Trading was always a better move, because DH's combo does not deal infinite damage. With a Priest, Mage or Druid, yeah, you could argue it's better because those classes have many ways of creating new resources through discoveries, DH doesn't.
@@Arrakiz666 Before this expansion that was true, but with the quest discounts and the tradeable 2 spell damage minion it's not anymore. 3 spell damage is a 48 damage combo and there's not enough armor in the entire deck to prevent that.
Realistically, the full combo kills him no matter what, and he's never going to die to anything else before he kills the DH. The ONLY scenario where trading is better is where the opponent can kill him with a partial OTK but doesn't have the full combo, which is, as I said, far rarer than the opponent getting an extra turn because you stop to trade, which lets them pull off the full combo.
Obligatory algorithm comment.
Game is ruined to be honest after witchwood
This extension is si boôooooooring! I'm usually enjoying this time with kibler showing interesting decks. Now he just get rekt at turn 7 by quest noob p2play... Change game please, blizzard is killing HS liked they killed Wow with WOD...