the RP you get while in planes destroying air and ground and especially ground units in GRB is very low.. even when you win the battle.. which is very crap because it makes grinding CAS shitty..
people will still tell you "skill issue" because you died to a KH38. like...what part of dying to a missile with a longer range than any spaa in the game is a skill issue?? This game stopped being about skill when the f14 was added.
@cbev1249 you sound like you don't have the ka52....it is absolutely not that simple. Spaa at that tier can snap lock on any heli including ka52. The main helis thag have a chance are those with fire n forget
@@shayzadga very good Spaa player still loses 9/10 to a mediocre CAS player A bad cas player lose to a bad SPAA player One has a low skill floor and skill ceiling. Other one does not
The f15 sucks. The mavericks are so fuckin slow and inefficient that its not worth to use. Not to mention that the USA team always dies out completely so the chances that someone brings an F15 are low. Not to mention that pantsirs will be waiting for f15's etc... So the only op cas in ground rn is Russia and nothing else. I know cuz i play both sides
Yeah, imagine grinding something that isn't russia or usa in warthunder. I have everything in british techtree and all i get from gaijin is a hot steaming poop in a form of another tornado that carries a joke parody of a missile in a form of brimstone...
Us players still lose alot more, just from premium noobs and the lack of not giving a shit when holding w like Russian t series tanks. But it truly is disgusting since there's so many Chinese lvl farmers on Russian teams it's disgusting how blatant these account sellers are as well.
* Buff to the F15E engines. Im Sure It Was Just What USA Needed * Have a cracked Fox3 called aim120. Im Sure It Was Just What USA Needed * Mega buff to the flight model of the F16 which makes it capable of pulling more than any other plane. Im Sure It Was Just What USA Needed * Mega buff to the flight model of the F15 when it came out from breaking from spinning too much, to literally not lose almost any speed. Im Sure It Was Just What USA Needed * Increase ALL Tier VI - VII aircraft, but leave the F-5C at 10.7. Im Sure It Was Just What USA Needed * 5 reload buff to the abrams. Im Sure It Was Just What USA Needed * Increase all the br of heavy tanks of rank IV (IS-6, IS-3, Somua, Tiger II, etc) but leave the T29 at the same br (7.0). Im Sure It Was Just What USA Needed You know Gaijin hates US mains as fuck, they're not cry babies with wads of money in their hands instead of lollipops, OF COURSE NOT WE ALL KNOW IT, DON'T WORRY!!
USA mains are the biggest wusses in Ground RB every time I swear to god. You could give them every good aspect of an mbt and they would still find a way to be completely useless. They would opt to bring in their second best tank in their lineup the m22 Locust 😂
American top tier ground win rates are in the absolute shitter so the 5 second buffer was valid tbh. Also kind of ignoring the year+ of R27ER domination in air RB. The real thing though is if you've played WT long enough, you'll notice Gaijin favors tech trees in cycles. This forces players into the constant rotational grind of chasing a shifting meta every year or so.
@@nobleman-swerveyeah before this was the absolute domination of the f14 and the huge differences between aim 9ls and r60s especially in the flaring departments
@@teddycooke8723 Exactly, this shit is cyclical. Watch R77-1 drop in a few months, be absolutely cracked, and we'll see people sprint back to red air and chuck money at the snail for premiums to catch up on the grind.
this kid needs to learn how to write and how to look at aircraft stats and loadouts, su34 can only carry 9 maximum air to ground guided weaponry, f15e can carry 6 agms + a whole bunch of gbu's on it's belly, not to mention the flight performance difference, the missile quality difference etc.
@@zehi04 also consider the f15e is going to be against the pantsir while the su34 wont have to compete with any quality spaa while still having the 6 best agms in the game
@@zehi04 kid I messed up with my phones keyboard… and dude the mavericks which the f16 has more of suck compared to the missiles that can be fired before the game gives a spaa a radar signature
I kinda dont like that all these Planes get Fire and forget. And that on Russai and US who dont deserve or need it. Kinda Brakes the SPAA vs Plane Encounter in my Opinion. In my Opinion, this limmits Counterplay and is not good for the Game.
@@sauronthemighty3985 the Pantsir never should have been added, the 2S6 was perfectly fine before the nerf and was on par with every other spaa. if Russia really needed a better spaa they should have gotten the Tor. Very weird how they say they won't add something because the other nations might not have a comparable vehicle/feature but then will add Kh38s and Pantsir.
F15 is still great in grb though. You simply can destroy opposing air units and then just destroy ground units from a high altitude. All thanks to its overperforming missiles and fm
You get this white text that pops up everytime you "evade" a missile. It even happens in ground vehicles if you smoke to dodge a maverick or spike lol.
Guys should I buy premium I was pretty excited to finally research my first top tier but it took me like 800 hours to get it (2-3 hours a day) and I really want to get more top tiers in other nations
When will we hate on gaijin for adding unrealistic performance to the F15E and AGAIN nerfing the flight models and engines of SU27 and SU34? Add tot hat SU34 doesnt have rear radar and cant keep a target locked behind it like it can irl plus it turns like a bus when irl it is on par if not better tham the SU27 at manuverability
@lucinator8582 firstly cant pull a full 180 thats been debunked even on the dev server secondly F15 can keep a 10-15g turn and not go below mach 2 for as long as it wants
@@Optimusprime56241 F15E got engines it never shouldve gotten in game it has super unrealistic manuverability and durability surviving missiles like they dont even exist next topic its active hoaming missiles are unrealistically good compared to R77 which as we saw from ukraine IRL are by far way more advanced at hunting planes down in air to air combat however in war thunder they barely work and this has been debunked by the community in the game and there is over 1500 reports on bad flight performance and bad missile performance of the top tier Russian planes for example SU27 is able to go almost vertically and keep gaining speed while in war thunder it barely moves
For Gaijin a 50Kg tnt equivalent warhead wouldn't evaporate anything it hits, will be just a "hit", as already have happened when I was playing with the TAM 2C and when one maverick hit me.
@@Add12pack In CAS, sure, but Gaijin still decided to give the strongest jet fighter to USA and Israel. F-15I is so fast and carry so many missiles. So USA is even stronger in air and Gaijin gave the unenecessary "6 KH-38MT aircraft" to the USSR, as if 4 of them weren't enough.
@@Anorexic_Clown worse that already I have had a ADATS missile ricochet on the Relikt in the turret of my T-80BVM and hit the roof, killing me with overpressure. High explosive damage is so bullshit some times, just "hehe, funny angle there"
I like some Russian jets but good Lord that is one of the ugliest birds I've ever seen. I've been playing it and the F-15 E and I'm much prefer the American F 15.
Since when ru player crying about something, you thing they are us player? Almost all ru strike aircraft dont have thermal like su25 compare to A10 at the same BR with 6 AGM"forget that sh*t"-65D ground missile
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26 kills, 1 cap and 2 asists. 19K rp???
Truly Gaijin at their most generous.
Rp and SL got a cap set on them a couple years ago as gaijin felt players were grinding to fast so that's why he got that amount
@@alphawolf1786yup and people are paying $80 for a premium while it’s hard capped at 20k in gdrb
@@alphawolf1786thats why i stopped grinding ground
the RP you get while in planes destroying air and ground and especially ground units in GRB is very low.. even when you win the battle.. which is very crap because it makes grinding CAS shitty..
Trust me guys cas is perfectly balanced and fair
people will still tell you "skill issue" because you died to a KH38. like...what part of dying to a missile with a longer range than any spaa in the game is a skill issue??
This game stopped being about skill when the f14 was added.
It is still skill ...like an spaa is more unskilled than cas
@@shayzadg ka52 point and click is not skill
@cbev1249 you sound like you don't have the ka52....it is absolutely not that simple. Spaa at that tier can snap lock on any heli including ka52. The main helis thag have a chance are those with fire n forget
@@shayzadga very good Spaa player still loses 9/10 to a mediocre CAS player
A bad cas player lose to a bad SPAA player
One has a low skill floor and skill ceiling. Other one does not
F-15E with its 11 unit air to ground loadout would be hilarious to see as well. Great video.
The f15 sucks. The mavericks are so fuckin slow and inefficient that its not worth to use. Not to mention that the USA team always dies out completely so the chances that someone brings an F15 are low. Not to mention that pantsirs will be waiting for f15's etc... So the only op cas in ground rn is Russia and nothing else. I know cuz i play both sides
@@akhilleusz3980We will see, F-15E might be fast enough to out climb and out speed even the Pantsir
@@MrRobschnieder yeah but wont ever hit a target with those weapons. Its great in AR dont get me wrong but its just not competitve in GB
@@akhilleusz3980 How would it not hit with its weapons? JDAMS, Paveways will work just fine from super high up and afar
@@akhilleusz3980Can confirm- The F-15E is fine in GRB
''why you don't play AA'', ''just spawn AA'', then this guy comes
Yeah, imagine grinding something that isn't russia or usa in warthunder. I have everything in british techtree and all i get from gaijin is a hot steaming poop in a form of another tornado that carries a joke parody of a missile in a form of brimstone...
The pgms are a lot better than mavericks
Us players still lose alot more, just from premium noobs and the lack of not giving a shit when holding w like Russian t series tanks. But it truly is disgusting since there's so many Chinese lvl farmers on Russian teams it's disgusting how blatant these account sellers are as well.
Would rather have UK on my team than another hoard of premium US mains.
Imagine thinking Sweden, Germany, Italy, France and Japan don't have by far the best tanks in ground rb
@@daiidalus_ Considering the fact that the UKs WR are now getting to the level of the US's, yea you probably don't actually.
im glad that ground battles are air battles just take light tank to the game and then dont leave air after death of that 1 tank very riveting gameplay
My question is why the enemy even bothered to spawn.
maybe they want to play ground battle but one player denied that with this new toy he has
@@vectivus3499 tanks are the minigame you have to play before you get in an aircraft and the real game starts.
Nice to know they finally buffed Russia. They were just struggling soooOOOOOOOooooo much
Yeah the struggle is so real they might have to cope by holding W even harder
* Buff to the F15E engines. Im Sure It Was Just What USA Needed
* Have a cracked Fox3 called aim120. Im Sure It Was Just What USA Needed
* Mega buff to the flight model of the F16 which makes it capable of pulling more than any other plane. Im Sure It Was Just What USA Needed
* Mega buff to the flight model of the F15 when it came out from breaking from spinning too much, to literally not lose almost any speed. Im Sure It Was Just What USA Needed
* Increase ALL Tier VI - VII aircraft, but leave the F-5C at 10.7. Im Sure It Was Just What USA Needed
* 5 reload buff to the abrams. Im Sure It Was Just What USA Needed
* Increase all the br of heavy tanks of rank IV (IS-6, IS-3, Somua, Tiger II, etc) but leave the T29 at the same br (7.0). Im Sure It Was Just What USA Needed
You know Gaijin hates US mains as fuck, they're not cry babies with wads of money in their hands instead of lollipops, OF COURSE NOT WE ALL KNOW IT, DON'T WORRY!!
USA mains are the biggest wusses in Ground RB every time I swear to god. You could give them every good aspect of an mbt and they would still find a way to be completely useless. They would opt to bring in their second best tank in their lineup the m22 Locust 😂
American top tier ground win rates are in the absolute shitter so the 5 second buffer was valid tbh. Also kind of ignoring the year+ of R27ER domination in air RB.
The real thing though is if you've played WT long enough, you'll notice Gaijin favors tech trees in cycles. This forces players into the constant rotational grind of chasing a shifting meta every year or so.
@@nobleman-swerveyeah before this was the absolute domination of the f14 and the huge differences between aim 9ls and r60s especially in the flaring departments
@@teddycooke8723 Exactly, this shit is cyclical. Watch R77-1 drop in a few months, be absolutely cracked, and we'll see people sprint back to red air and chuck money at the snail for premiums to catch up on the grind.
I agree for most of the points, but complaining about F-5C at 10.7 is just a huge skill issue tbh
Gaijin really pulled off their slipper and said I’ll give you something to cry about to “cas is op”
the fact they let you spawn more than one plane per player in GROUND RB is fucking idiotic
21 ground kills with CAs that first game Russian CAs totally isn’t over powered
F15E?
this kid needs to learn how to write and how to look at aircraft stats and loadouts, su34 can only carry 9 maximum air to ground guided weaponry, f15e can carry 6 agms + a whole bunch of gbu's on it's belly, not to mention the flight performance difference, the missile quality difference etc.
@@zehi04 also consider the f15e is going to be against the pantsir while the su34 wont have to compete with any quality spaa while still having the 6 best agms in the game
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@@zehi04 kid I messed up with my phones keyboard… and dude the mavericks which the f16 has more of suck compared to the missiles that can be fired before the game gives a spaa a radar signature
At this point we need Patriot and S-300, every update CAS becomes more OP.
Then stop demenanding cas shit...
Do I detect sarcasm in that title?
Yes. Lots of it.
you guys still playing the Russian Ministry of Defense video game?
This thing is disgustingly OP, unlike every other aircraft added this update.
Lmao, clearly, more of modern jet fighters with tons of air-to-ground armaments of longer and longer range is what game needs.
this video game me cancer. Good job Cave 👍
But brimstones would be op if they were F&F
100mm HE to 2A7 belly bounce incident
AGM84/88s aren’t in the game but kh38s exist
when stream?
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Agm 84 is an anti ship missile how would that be useful?
@ ER is anti ship. Not the regular 84
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SpLittInG tHe ThRotLes
now thats what I call slop
Lmao, I knew this jet would break top tier even more than it already was, 6 kh-38mt's is absolutely ludicrous
yo can u make a video on a recommended controls guide, i always get my controls mixed up and it would me and others a ton.
bro doesn't even put his gear up in the KA-52 smh, also the over committing.
Could you tell me why do you use BMD-4 in top br? Is it better than 2S25M?
You could say that it is a very flexible tank, high mobility and fast response. And I think he uses it for assist farming
He just uses it to scout and whatnot
10:35 how did you get this cute decal? I'm looking for it. I'm really curious. Can you tell me?
Almost losing that first game is crazy.
i was thinkin that su-34 is fan mod. But it is in the game. wtf
Slept under the rock lol?
@LarryPigeon1 just didn't play the game.
So there's a Duck, where is Goose?
I kinda dont like that all these Planes get Fire and forget. And that on Russai and US who dont deserve or need it. Kinda Brakes the SPAA vs Plane Encounter in my Opinion.
In my Opinion, this limmits Counterplay and is not good for the Game.
And US is stuck with Adats honestly top tier ground is laughably one sided but I has been since the frog foot with 38s was added so whatevs
We need better top tier aa like now
You got Osa
What can be better than Pantsir except for a multi-vehicle air defence system?
@@sauronthemighty3985 the Pantsir never should have been added, the 2S6 was perfectly fine before the nerf and was on par with every other spaa. if Russia really needed a better spaa they should have gotten the Tor. Very weird how they say they won't add something because the other nations might not have a comparable vehicle/feature but then will add Kh38s and Pantsir.
@@sauronthemighty3985Are you saying every nation should get a pantsir? I’m down for that
@@Reverdex4 UK tree maybe gets one in the future, india is thinking about buying the pantsir IRL from russia.
No airbrake??? Crazy.
For all people that argue against f15 and su34: f15e is cracked in ARB, and su34 is cracked in GRB, perfectly balance, oh not for you Germany
I agree with that su34 better in ground ab than the F15 and f15 better in air RB then the su34
F15 is still great in grb though.
You simply can destroy opposing air units and then just destroy ground units from a high altitude.
All thanks to its overperforming missiles and fm
@@VIT-ey8wo it’s mid, it’s just an f16c with more ordinance, speed doesn’t really matter in GRB
Quite literally air rb
Funny that you can kill whole enemy team with a plane in GROUND BATTLE
that first game might genuinely be the single worst game I have ever had the misfortune of witnessing.
The first game felt endless lol 😮
Perfectly balanced
yeah i dont think i will play any ground unit in GRB
Patchday goat
Im bad
@@Cavenub 🤫
Crying out for more US buffs destroyed the game. Typical American tactic.
Missile evasion???????
You get this white text that pops up everytime you "evade" a missile. It even happens in ground vehicles if you smoke to dodge a maverick or spike lol.
Guys should I buy premium I was pretty excited to finally research my first top tier but it took me like 800 hours to get it (2-3 hours a day) and I really want to get more top tiers in other nations
If you want it. Do note that you may simply not like these top tiers, even if they are good.
i want to se how make gaijin in game the typhoone ....china get fighter from 2005 now russia from 2007 and eurofighter is from 2003 so....
When will we hate on gaijin for adding unrealistic performance to the F15E and AGAIN nerfing the flight models and engines of SU27 and SU34?
Add tot hat SU34 doesnt have rear radar and cant keep a target locked behind it like it can irl plus it turns like a bus when irl it is on par if not better tham the SU27 at manuverability
in terms of manuverability the Su-34 can literally pull a 180 with landing flaps on full real
@lucinator8582 firstly cant pull a full 180 thats been debunked even on the dev server secondly F15 can keep a 10-15g turn and not go below mach 2 for as long as it wants
Unrealistic performance? The f15e not only got nerfed but its performing just like it should lol
@@Optimusprime56241 F15E got engines it never shouldve gotten in game it has super unrealistic manuverability and durability surviving missiles like they dont even exist next topic its active hoaming missiles are unrealistically good compared to R77 which as we saw from ukraine IRL are by far way more advanced at hunting planes down in air to air combat however in war thunder they barely work and this has been debunked by the community in the game and there is over 1500 reports on bad flight performance and bad missile performance of the top tier Russian planes for example SU27 is able to go almost vertically and keep gaining speed while in war thunder it barely moves
@ you mean the same engines that it has back in the early 2000s? Please explain how it wasn’t supposed to have the 229 engines 😂
The burger Z is 10/10
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Russian crew says "papa daniel" or is it my imagination?
chad patron
kh-38 6발이 말이 되나 진짜ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
F15E hello ???
Hi!:D
with that type of targeting camera your using to lock without using a pod all I seem to do is lock the gorund 80% of the time
Yep we should compare these missiles to mavericks because mavericks always work and always one shot… oh wait they dont
For Gaijin a 50Kg tnt equivalent warhead wouldn't evaporate anything it hits, will be just a "hit", as already have happened when I was playing with the TAM 2C and when one maverick hit me.
@ Russia is so over powered and they are so skill issues they just say “ skill issue ground noob”
@@Add12pack In CAS, sure, but Gaijin still decided to give the strongest jet fighter to USA and Israel. F-15I is so fast and carry so many missiles. So USA is even stronger in air and Gaijin gave the unenecessary "6 KH-38MT aircraft" to the USSR, as if 4 of them weren't enough.
Funny how the Kornets and 100mm atgms can OP Nato MBTs but a Mav can't, even to the roof of a tank.
@@Anorexic_Clown worse that already I have had a ADATS missile ricochet on the Relikt in the turret of my T-80BVM and hit the roof, killing me with overpressure. High explosive damage is so bullshit some times, just "hehe, funny angle there"
Its so cute thoooooooo
fr :3
you need to be nerfed lmao
Yes
Lol, this ATGM is so low effort.
bro,trurn off esp and we can speak
wow what happened ur squadmate did NOTHING these games…. 😁
hand in ur golden legion decal IMMEDIATELY
I am pretty sure he had 20% PL WHOLE GAME
@@Cavenub me when i lie UNCONTROLLABLY ⚫️🥀
"Surely F15E was just what US needed"
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lol o7
this is just stupid. i wish there was a ground only gamemode
what ever happened to that anti air system from the trailer? should it work the same way as spawning a drone so CAS can be dealt with?
I like some Russian jets but good Lord that is one of the ugliest birds I've ever seen. I've been playing it and the F-15 E and I'm much prefer the American F 15.
Yeah, F-15 is the best plane by a long shot RN. Even before F-15E.
first one yay
the reason that so many people cope about cas is that they dont know how to play SPAA right tbh
Considering how most air to ground Russia has outranges SPAA like the ADATS and Flarakrad that does not hold any water.
@@ICECAPPEDSKY as you can see most of his shots in the video are 8-10 km, sometimes 6 perfectly in range of nato spaas
Ur just bad
lol, I thought i heard russia mains crying about not getting thermals
the jet itself doesn't have thermals, kh-38mt's do
asking for anyhing = crying ? i can already see your skinny cheeto fingers typing that comment
Since when ru player crying about something, you thing they are us player?
Almost all ru strike aircraft dont have thermal like su25 compare to A10 at the same BR with 6 AGM"forget that sh*t"-65D ground missile
@@barbarossa2166 maybe ask Russia to produce some more thermals
@@marshall-yo5ho why dont you ask them considering you are the one complaining about thermal
thoughts on bamba being trolled by codemineman? omE
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