I struggle with God not allowing each and everyone not having the same opportunity for salvation. Am I misunderstanding something or is it just that God already knows who will reject him no matter what?
I think that this is something all humans would struggle to understand no matter whether possessing the Holy Spirit or not because as the flawed and finite beings we are it's impossible for us to have the perception of the all-powerful and all-knowing God. It's kind of like asking how God can allow sin to take place while also not being sinful Himself. Because He's God.
I agree 100%. This is Piper’s idea. Not the word of God. The last part of 2 Peter 3:9 states that very clearly. Read it in any version. ... not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. Not all are willing to come to faith BUT ALL are predestined to come to faith. God made a way but not all humans choose that way. Some prefer to remain blind. Man is fallible!
@@kcgarthwaite Well 1 Peter precedes your verse. John Piper didn't write the bible. 🙏♥️🙏 Peter 1 English Standard Version Greeting 1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who are elect exiles of the Dispersion in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, 2 according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, in the sanctification of the Spirit, for obedience to Jesus Christ and for sprinkling with his blood: May grace and peace be multiplied to you. God does the choosing. Spiritually dead people can choose nothing from above. It is all dependent on God's mercy. John 6:44 English Standard Version 44 No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day. Romans 9:10-18 English Standard Version 10 And not only so, but also when Rebekah had conceived children by one man, our forefather Isaac, 11 though they were not yet born and had done nothing either good or bad-in order that God's purpose of election might continue, not because of works but because of him who calls- 12 she was told, “The older will serve the younger.” 13 As it is written, “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.” 14 What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God's part? By no means! 15 For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” 16 So then it depends not on human will or exertion,[a] but on God, who has mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I might show my power in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” 18 So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills.
help us to pray effectively Lord so that you may be glorified
What an amazing and true word!
wow.
I struggle with God not allowing each and everyone not having the same opportunity for salvation. Am I misunderstanding something or is it just that God already knows who will reject him no matter what?
Exactly
I think that this is something all humans would struggle to understand no matter whether possessing the Holy Spirit or not because as the flawed and finite beings we are it's impossible for us to have the perception of the all-powerful and all-knowing God. It's kind of like asking how God can allow sin to take place while also not being sinful Himself. Because He's God.
I agree 100%. This is Piper’s idea. Not the word of God. The last part of 2 Peter 3:9 states that very clearly. Read it in any version. ... not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
Not all are willing to come to faith BUT ALL are predestined to come to faith. God made a way but not all humans choose that way. Some prefer to remain blind.
Man is fallible!
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@@kcgarthwaite Well 1 Peter precedes your verse. John Piper didn't write the bible. 🙏♥️🙏
Peter 1
English Standard Version
Greeting
1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ,
To those who are elect exiles of the Dispersion in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, 2 according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, in the sanctification of the Spirit, for obedience to Jesus Christ and for sprinkling with his blood:
May grace and peace be multiplied to you.
God does the choosing. Spiritually dead people can choose nothing from above. It is all dependent on God's mercy.
John 6:44
English Standard Version
44 No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day.
Romans 9:10-18
English Standard Version
10 And not only so, but also when Rebekah had conceived children by one man, our forefather Isaac, 11 though they were not yet born and had done nothing either good or bad-in order that God's purpose of election might continue, not because of works but because of him who calls- 12 she was told, “The older will serve the younger.” 13 As it is written, “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”
14 What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God's part? By no means! 15 For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” 16 So then it depends not on human will or exertion,[a] but on God, who has mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I might show my power in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” 18 So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills.