Largest fictional settings by words are usually determining the density of its lore Largest fictional settings by scale indicates of how interconnected the settings to not just scale of its worldbuilding but also how it's (canonically/officially) ties to worldbuilding of other settings (hence technically crossovers indicates this category too) Largest fictional settings by timelines is similar by scale, but instead of by Spatial/Space, it's just by time And the last categories tbf can intersect with "multi-fandom" claims (since internet makes everyone more interconnected digitally and towards physically and mentally) and aforementioned crossovers that can ties fandoms together, usually this can involve IP ownership or how "open" the official materials can be interpreted until "Death of Authors" applies And Warhammer 40K fandom have tendencies to arbitrarily inflates their powerscaling/powerlevel of their Settings (like they claim Emperor of Mankind and chaos gods as "outerversal" or some bullshit like that lol), I've seen it with certain gacha games' fandoms that have worldbuilding comparable to MCU/DCEU officially (Honkai games, especially since Honkai Impact's visual cinematic are so well-made and tantalising that they make Warhammer 40K Primarchs look weak since they cannot maneuver and do large-scale nuking and near Wuxia-level of multiverse-destroying feats, although HI3 animations are certainly closer to Wuxia-level in terms of drawn styles, on top of actual anime visuals that's really, really good)
Word Counts Can Really be tricky some times. The average word count for novels across various genres typically ranges from 70,000 to 120,000 words. Best-selling fiction novels average around 90,000 words, while specific genres have their own averages: Fantasy: 90,000 - 200,000 words Science Fiction: 80,000 - 150,000 words Romance: 50,000 - 90,000 words Mystery/Thriller: 70,000 - 90,000 words My most recent book was around 200,000 but I hope to make them a bit shorter from now on. Great video! Blessings!
2:15 I've heard Warhammer described as "The biggest thing you've never heard of." And it is pretty true. Outside of nerd culture, Warhammer is very rare, and once you get into it, the well of Warhammer content is almost bottomless.
I underestimated when I heard things like that, I made a lore dive 2 months ago and have listened to lore videos every single day all day at work for 8+ hours a day and only know a fraction of a fraction of the total lore
3:35 Slaanesh could be Conquest (wink wink nudge nudge). Tzeentch being Death makes sense when you look at the Tarot meaning of Death which is Change. This is a bit of a stretch, but still within the realm of a "loose parallel".
Warhammer lore while may be enormous, it's very shallow and repetitive, most is just war and death, great single stories but when it comes to worldbuilding its kinda very shallow and poor Star Wars? Large scope, but suffers from the problem that most of the huge "lots ofpages/counted words" universe suffers: Many authors, so it's very very inconsistent and chaotic, and not that much depth and not intricate as you would imagine to actually live there When we talk about an overall of depth, size, timeline, lore, being intricate, quality and influence, no doubt the ultimate ficctional world is Tolkien's Legendarium. Is by far the most influential one, the father of high fantasy and inspired pretty much every other ficctional/fantasy universe that came after him, and probably the one with most depth, in a level that you feel it could be an actual mythology from an actual country in the real world, and the fact the was created by one single person makes it not only the fact that the created all of that just absurd and outstanding, but makes it the most intricate one So if we talk about the overall of depth, size, timeline, lore, being intricate, quality and influence, Tolkien's Legendarium is the GOAT
Your mostly surfacelevel understanding of Warhammer made me question your comment greatly, but you brought it back with Tolkien's Legendarium. Fair enough on that.
Everybody knows about warhammer, but most people don't know they know about warhammer. For example: "more dakka" and "grimdark" both of those are warhammer. Once you know what to look for, you'll notice it as often as you notice star wars references, if not more because it's so pervasive that people spread it without knowing it, thinking, "this is just how we talk, right?"
After experiencing Arknights universe I started to ask the same question. It feels really deep and interconnected, giving a sensation of actually existing living world. But of course, we can't really compare it to the decades old gigants like Star Wars or Warhammer, *yet*
Been a warhammer fan for over ten years and i literally am discovering new stuff every day. Buying books and codex and ect. Also the lore empire has on average 1 million "established " worlds and countless colonies and mining outpost where the population is beyond count. 😮
Oh, also, interestingly enough, the Warhammer 40k timeline isn't 40,000 years old, but actually a bit over 60 Million years old, because the War in Heaven which started off the Whole story happened 60 million years ago, which is where the Orks, Eldar and Necrons come from. But yeah, there are longer timelines in other mediums though
Word Count: Real life Area: The Mathethatical Multiverse (any self-consistent mathematical framework that can be imagined is the physics of its own universe) Timeline: IDK, whichever eternal/cyclical recurrence universe model you like.
Wouldn't Doctor Who be a contender for biggest universe by word count? Nearly 900 TV episodes, over 300 novels, twenty-odd audio plays, about 100 audiobooks, comics that have been published more or less continuously since 1965 ... That's not counting the various spinoffs set in the same universe (Torchwood, The Sarah Jane Adventures, etc.)
Though not as large as the mentioned There is one JP author who is well known for expansive world Minoru Kawakami who basically has the whole world history timeline retold
I would say that doctor who universe can be counted as the largest universe by the area, cause Doctor travel the shit out of the space and time, so technically he doubles the universve
wake up baby, haedal posted a video.
I'm a hardcore 40K fan, but when I asked myself this question I estimated the SCP universe would be the biggest.
Too lazy to back it up though.
As cool as SCP is, its not a very loose world (which is cool, pretty much the interesting part of it)
Largest fictional settings by words are usually determining the density of its lore
Largest fictional settings by scale indicates of how interconnected the settings to not just scale of its worldbuilding but also how it's (canonically/officially) ties to worldbuilding of other settings (hence technically crossovers indicates this category too)
Largest fictional settings by timelines is similar by scale, but instead of by Spatial/Space, it's just by time
And the last categories tbf can intersect with "multi-fandom" claims (since internet makes everyone more interconnected digitally and towards physically and mentally) and aforementioned crossovers that can ties fandoms together, usually this can involve IP ownership or how "open" the official materials can be interpreted until "Death of Authors" applies
And Warhammer 40K fandom have tendencies to arbitrarily inflates their powerscaling/powerlevel of their Settings (like they claim Emperor of Mankind and chaos gods as "outerversal" or some bullshit like that lol), I've seen it with certain gacha games' fandoms that have worldbuilding comparable to MCU/DCEU officially
(Honkai games, especially since Honkai Impact's visual cinematic are so well-made and tantalising that they make Warhammer 40K Primarchs look weak since they cannot maneuver and do large-scale nuking and near Wuxia-level of multiverse-destroying feats, although HI3 animations are certainly closer to Wuxia-level in terms of drawn styles, on top of actual anime visuals that's really, really good)
Perry Rhodan solos in the first two categories!
Word Counts Can Really be tricky some times. The average word count for novels across various genres typically ranges from 70,000 to 120,000 words. Best-selling fiction novels average around 90,000 words, while specific genres have their own averages:
Fantasy: 90,000 - 200,000 words
Science Fiction: 80,000 - 150,000 words
Romance: 50,000 - 90,000 words
Mystery/Thriller: 70,000 - 90,000 words
My most recent book was around 200,000 but I hope to make them a bit shorter from now on. Great video! Blessings!
2:15 I've heard Warhammer described as "The biggest thing you've never heard of." And it is pretty true. Outside of nerd culture, Warhammer is very rare, and once you get into it, the well of Warhammer content is almost bottomless.
I underestimated when I heard things like that, I made a lore dive 2 months ago and have listened to lore videos every single day all day at work for 8+ hours a day and only know a fraction of a fraction of the total lore
This content is just so good and HAEDAL'S VOICE IS DELICIOUS
i swear if it's fortnight...
3:35 Slaanesh could be Conquest (wink wink nudge nudge). Tzeentch being Death makes sense when you look at the Tarot meaning of Death which is Change.
This is a bit of a stretch, but still within the realm of a "loose parallel".
Warhammer lore while may be enormous, it's very shallow and repetitive, most is just war and death, great single stories but when it comes to worldbuilding its kinda very shallow and poor
Star Wars? Large scope, but suffers from the problem that most of the huge "lots ofpages/counted words" universe suffers: Many authors, so it's very very inconsistent and chaotic, and not that much depth and not intricate as you would imagine to actually live there
When we talk about an overall of depth, size, timeline, lore, being intricate, quality and influence, no doubt the ultimate ficctional world is Tolkien's Legendarium. Is by far the most influential one, the father of high fantasy and inspired pretty much every other ficctional/fantasy universe that came after him, and probably the one with most depth, in a level that you feel it could be an actual mythology from an actual country in the real world, and the fact the was created by one single person makes it not only the fact that the created all of that just absurd and outstanding, but makes it the most intricate one
So if we talk about the overall of depth, size, timeline, lore, being intricate, quality and influence, Tolkien's Legendarium is the GOAT
Your mostly surfacelevel understanding of Warhammer made me question your comment greatly, but you brought it back with Tolkien's Legendarium. Fair enough on that.
Everybody knows about warhammer, but most people don't know they know about warhammer. For example: "more dakka" and "grimdark" both of those are warhammer. Once you know what to look for, you'll notice it as often as you notice star wars references, if not more because it's so pervasive that people spread it without knowing it, thinking, "this is just how we talk, right?"
After experiencing Arknights universe I started to ask the same question.
It feels really deep and interconnected, giving a sensation of actually existing living world.
But of course, we can't really compare it to the decades old gigants like Star Wars or Warhammer, *yet*
This!!! Universe. Perfectly told and crafted
Love your vids
Been a warhammer fan for over ten years and i literally am discovering new stuff every day. Buying books and codex and ect. Also the lore empire has on average 1 million "established " worlds and countless colonies and mining outpost where the population is beyond count. 😮
In terms of text?
Perry Rhodan.
In terms of sold books?
Perry Rhodan.
In terms of missing translations?
Perry Rhodan.
Oh, also, interestingly enough, the Warhammer 40k timeline isn't 40,000 years old, but actually a bit over 60 Million years old, because the War in Heaven which started off the Whole story happened 60 million years ago, which is where the Orks, Eldar and Necrons come from. But yeah, there are longer timelines in other mediums though
Word Count: Real life
Area: The Mathethatical Multiverse (any self-consistent mathematical framework that can be imagined is the physics of its own universe)
Timeline: IDK, whichever eternal/cyclical recurrence universe model you like.
Wouldn't Doctor Who be a contender for biggest universe by word count? Nearly 900 TV episodes, over 300 novels, twenty-odd audio plays, about 100 audiobooks, comics that have been published more or less continuously since 1965 ... That's not counting the various spinoffs set in the same universe (Torchwood, The Sarah Jane Adventures, etc.)
that's crazy
You have to go off the comics of marvel and DC the comic cosmology is so insane it's more than multiverse stuff
Though not as large as the mentioned
There is one JP author who is well known for expansive world Minoru Kawakami who basically has the whole world history timeline retold
I would say that doctor who universe can be counted as the largest universe by the area, cause Doctor travel the shit out of the space and time, so technically he doubles the universve
Gotta be Marvel or dc. Marvel has around 30 000 comics and about 80 000 characters
you don´t know about the Xeelee sequence, dont you?
get off my lap babe, HAEDAL JUST POSTED A VIDEO