I don't remember if it was Trump or TB, but I remember hearing someone once say "the winner of Priest vs Priest is the person who thoughtsteals the most thoughtsteals."
I recall that line, so it's probably Trump since I don't really watch TB. But yeah, whoever gets more Thoughtsteal from Thoughtsteal basically has a larger deck than their opponent, which is game-winning in a match that is almost guaranteed to last a long time.
It's an amusing quote, but I think the Priest that plays Ysera (and also successfully keeps Ysera) wins the game. You play Ysera, the opponent plays Mind Control, you Mind Control back, they play Sylvanas plus SW death, you counter with Sylvanas plus SW death, and then you finally win after X turns of free dream cards. I hate Priest versus Priest because I sometimes lose the game just because I don't have Sylvanas plus SW Death combo in my hand to get my Ysera back after it's stolen, and I end up losing to my own Ysera.
I feel like I could never get to high ranks with a deck like this Not because either I or the deck are bad But because I would pyromancer cleric mass healing spell and fatigue myself into oblivion every chance I get Because it's so ~stylish~
Seeing you on a Hearthstone video makes me think of like making the Dispenser a card lol. It'd be like, a cross between a Flametongue totem (ammo regen is sort of like more attack?? and a Healing totem or something. And the Sentrygun would definitely be like Demolisher or Ragnaros and just do damage through an effect instead of actually attacking. They could also gain stats at the beginning of your turn (up to a maximum of 3 buffs.)
Michael Bowman Well, it's more that Thoughtsteal counts as a card, and transforms itself into another card while generating another one. So it's more like 32 cards.
Hey, I should watch some trump... but there's a lot of Arenas. Bah. I'll watch them later. Wait. There's a constructed video. YES. There aren't enough constructed videos. Its me or we're not seeing them all?
He tends to only do constructed at the beginning of a new season, to get to legends. Should try catch him live on twitch unless the time zones make it awkward
Constructed is literally nothing but "Warrior, Warlock, Warlock, Warrior, Warrior, Warlock, occasional gimmick deck, Warlock, Warrior, Warrior." No one wants to see the same decks being used permanently. It's pointless. Trump likes teaching players about the game. What better way to do that than say "here's a random deck you're given, make it work regardless of how good it is", and he does by pulling off 10+ wins with even the worst decks out there. If you want to go see the some boring constructed garbage where everyone just copies the most OP deck and perma-wins with it, you can go see that on ANY other Hearthstone channel out there. In the meantime, we'll sit here and enjoy Trump's actual dedication to not boring the piss out of his viewers.
14:48 why not steal spiderling? Sure the other card is higher value but it means you get a free card in lategame and it decreases the risk that he gets something stupid like King Krush.
Because secrets are always more devastating and theres almost an 100% chance he'll get a free secret as opposed to King Krush. Also Krush isnt great anyway.
4:30 Trump why...just put another 2 Northshire Cleric on the board -> Holy Nova -> 12 cards draw -> Circle of healing -> 24 cards draw -> Such A Card Advantage! :Kappa:
It's easy to take care of and the easy rule of thumb is kill everything else before it. Although in some scenarios that cant be helped. Usually you can counter it fairly easy. I will agree though that sometimes (and with some decks) you have no way to deal with it early.
Ever since I lost as a Priest to some Warrior because I drew too many cards and started fatiguing first, I never make plays that draw me a full hand. Trump did not get punished at all for drawing so many cards, which leads me to think I'm just being overly paranoid.
that play is reasonable actually. I guess you got unlucky with your draws and got dead cards perhaps, against another slow deck card advantage is king.
Question, the card LightWarden, does his ability proc with power word shield like Northshire does? Also does it proc with young Priestess ability? I'd check myself but don't have access to play hearthstone atm. Thanks in advance!
no, lightwarden doesn't proc on PWS, as PWS doesn't heal. Northshire doesn't proc on it either, PWS' effect is "give a minion +2 health, draw a card" the card draw you're seeing isn't from Northshire, it's part of PWS's effect. Easy to confuse, since the prime target for PWS is Northshire early game
I run pretty much this exact deck aside from the Harrison Jones (which I don't have) and I'm finding a lot of feugen+stalagg in my rank. What single card can I take to deal with that knowing that i'm trading it for harrison jones?
I understand cabal shadow priest effect can be great sometimes but most of the times it's an over costed yeti. That is 1 card I would switch for a silence or whatever you want to add.
Have you played constructed recently? Do you have any idea how many people are running Deathrattle crap, all of which can be taken with the Cabal Shadow Priest? Undertaker, Loot Hoarder, Haunted Creeper, Nerubian Egg, Harvest Golem, Mad Scientist, Zombie Chow, Leper Gnome, Acolyte of Pain, Unstable Ghoul, and some class specific guys in Webspinner, Northshire Cleric, Unbound Elemental, and Armorsmith. In almost every match-up, Cabal will have something to steal. In the worst case scenario, it will steal the 1/2 slime the Sludge Belcher makes when it dies, and that too is fine.
Most of the times they are already dead by a holy nova, auchenai+circle, pyro plus some spells before he can get any good deals in. I would keep 1 but there's no need for 2.
lkjkhfggd I agree, but if you switched a cabal shadow priest for a silence it is almost the same thing. You don't get to steal a minion + it's deathrattle effect, but it works against buffed up Undertakers and Unbound Elementals as well. I only say this because I don't own a 2nd shadow priest and run 1 silence like this person is suggesting.
Well if any of you had your doubts about Cabal Shadow Priest before, they should all be gone after the expansion. Shrinkmeister giving -2 attack means Priest can now steal any minion with 4 or less attack. OP
Holy Smite and Shadow Word: Pain aren't actually that comparable in my opinion. Holy Smite is 2 direct damage to anything, while Pain is hard removal with specific requirements. Better considerations are Holy Smite vs Holy Fire (both direct damage) and Shadow Word: Pain vs Shadow Madness vs Cabal Shadow Priest (all specifically target low attack minions.).
Anyone else find it strange that Mass Dispel is so unpopular? It seems like it would have even more value with all of the death rattle decks in the ladder.
It just hasn't been discovered yet. The 0 mana silence card synergizes better with Wild Pyromancer, and you usually only need to silence a single target at any one moment during a game, and Mass Dispel is super expensive, so that's why it's favored. I usually only want to silence two minions during any average control game (Sylvanas and Cairne), though sometimes I also want to silence Feugen/Stalagg or Savannah Highmane or Shade of Nax. It's worth a try running, but every card in this Priest deck is valuable, so it's difficult to choose what to toss.
You would think it would be good with all the deathrattle decks, but after playing with it for about a week on ladder, I found that it was too slow most of the time. The fact that it costs 4 mana is really what kills it since most deathrattle decks are fast enough that you have to continuously clear to keep up with them. That's what I've found, anyway, but it's possible I'm wrong and just had a week of bad luck with it.
Doomhammer + Rockbiter = 10 Damage Burst Doomhammer + 2x Rockbiter = 16 Damage Burst I guess doubles because he is missing something else in the decklist (Al'Akir maybe? I don't know how that decklist looks like) and instead runs double Doomhammer.
Marcus Tullius Cicero Doomhammer is good by Itself, thats why he runs 2 of them. it can kill around 4 things or deal a total of 5 Mana for 16 damage over 4 truns.
It's pretty essential that you draw into a Doomhammer in that type of burst shaman, so a lot of them run 2 just to increase the probability of drawing into it. Also in case it gets Harrisoned or Oozed they can play the second and still burst.
Most likely, the plan for a deck using double Doomhammer is to kill the opponent without actually drawing both. I mean, it sucks to draw both, but it sucks in the same way that it sucks for Zoolock to draw into both Doomguards.
Hey fellow Trump fans! Can I have your opinions and suggestions about the changes I had to make to this deck? Ysera, Sylvanas, Harisson Jones --> 2nd Mind control, Ragnaros, Acidic swamp ooze I feel Jones serves as a decent 5drop except for his awesome battlecry so ooze is a bit underwhelming, though still neccecery. What do you think :)
Normally you can assume that swapping Ysera for Rag is not a problem, it's preference and also depends on the meta. If people play a lot of Big Game Hunters you might wanna play Ysera instead. Also Rag doesn't give as much value against rush decks as their minions are small. Ooze is of course the natural pickup instead of the Harrison and Sylvanas is just a solid and very annoying card anyway, just like Mind control :)
I think that 1 Ooze is needed, but you should only run Harrison only when the Meta is Warrior, Shaman, and Paladin. 2 Mind Controls are to many, just use 1 and a Slyvanas. Ragnaros does not fit in this Deck style, in my Opinion.
I agree with both of the above comments to some degree. I think ooze and Rag are fine, although Rag may be a bit worse than Ysera with all the decks that spam minions right now. The second mind control is too many though. You'll rarely get the chance to play 1 unless you're playing against a heavy control deck, and with all the hunters and deathrattle priests/zoo running around, you'll have an even harder time playing 1, much less 2.
I don't think Ooze is necessary. You can beat control warrior convincingly without killing his weapons, Doomhammer is kinda rare, and Rogue is whatever. I run a 2nd Shadow word Death instead of Harrison Jones and I much prefer it. I am of the opinion that Sylvanas and Ysera are the most important cards in control Priest and are not replaceable. Ragnaros is significantly weaker because lots of dudes just tech in that one BGH. I think it's better to put in The Black Knight/Cairne Bloodhoof over Rag. With that said, if you don't have the cards, your replacements are okay. I'd probably try a Dark Iron Dwarf over 2nd mind control so I could hopefully buff and then Shadow word death an enemy Ysera. 2 mind controls is super terrible versus all aggro decks.
lkjkhfggd The second death can be extremely helpful against some decks. Against zoo it is absolutely devasting though and will often be a dead card. I find the ooze to be pretty good against hunters and warriors and otherwise it's just a normal 3/2 which can help you stuff the board against zoo. These choices really depend on the current meta game. Black Knight and Ysera are almost always viable as you said. I've been playing Hogger instead of Cairne for a while now and must say it is the bane of aggro decks, if you play it right.
***** It's not cheating, it's a program that can easily be done by using a sheet of paper, so Blizzard doesn't mind;hence, why it hasn't been mentioned. Don't classify something as cheating if you don't know what you're talking about.
IRinzler *Warning, this is a block of text concerning legality and company discretion.* Read the tl;dr if you want to take my word for it, or visit the TOU yourself here: us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/about/termsofuse.html It's a blurred line with a broad definition, but the reasons you stated are not relevant. The terms of service state: _"Any use of the Service or any Game in violation of the License Limitations will be regarded as a breach of this Agreement and an infringement of Blizzard’s copyrights in and to the Service and/or Game. You agree that you will not, under any circumstances:_ _use cheats, automation software (bots), hacks, mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Service, any Game or any Game experience; ..."_ By this definition, using a sheet of paper is fine. Whether you're keeping track of cards or not is no-one's concern. This particular choice of words is definitely a hard-stop to any software-related card tracking attempts: _"to modify the Service, any Game or any _*_Game experience_*_"_ It is often argued that the files used to track cards aren't considered integral or "deep" enough to violate the Terms of Use, but those last two words really state one thing; "if we think you're hacking, don't bullshit us with the technicalities, because we maintain the right to punish you regardless." On top of this, they do state this specifically: _"No Data Mining._ _You agree that you will not (a) obtain or attempt to obtain _*_any information from the Service or any Game using any method not expressly permitted by Blizzard;_*_ (b) intercept, examine or otherwise observe any proprietary communications protocol used by a Game client or the Service, whether through the use of a network analyzer, packet sniffer or other device; (c) use any third-party software to collect information from or through a Game client or the Service, including without limitation _*_information about your character, any Account registered to you, virtual items, other players, or other Game data_*_."_ Again, many people find this to be a subjective notion. However, it's pretty obvious that they are disallowing methods that are not provided by Blizzard officially. *tl;dr:* Blizzard essentially says "fuck you" to anyone attempting to find loopholes, as they've plugged pretty much everything. Not to mention that using a program most certainly isn't ethically synonymous with pen & paper methods, which is slow, distracting, and subject to user error.
Hello Trump, I'm a big fan of yours and I have a challenge for you :) Achieve Legendary in the next season using class only cards (hero of your choice) I hope you accept, but you're free to decline :)
Allen Yoo No, it heals. I've killed the Soul Priest and Chow together before (forgot that Drake will actually buff the Circle, so it did 5 instead of 4), and if the Soul Priest dies at the same time the Chow will heal. Very nearly lost a game because of it.
I hate priests. most of the time, the only way they win is by stealing cards from the better classes. Like it is our fault priests were not given good cards and have to steal. Which is not a very priestly thing to do.
"what do you get when you thought steal an Orc?"
"Nothing." - a Tauren Joke
How many Orcs does it take to unscrew a Lightbulb? F"orc" of them. Hu-Huh.
What did the human paladin say to the tauren warrior? "Your momma so fat Heroic Leap turns into Earthquake."
I don't remember if it was Trump or TB, but I remember hearing someone once say "the winner of Priest vs Priest is the person who thoughtsteals the most thoughtsteals."
Most likely Trump, but i caught myself thinking about that quote not so long ago too.
amaz maybe
I recall that line, so it's probably Trump since I don't really watch TB.
But yeah, whoever gets more Thoughtsteal from Thoughtsteal basically has a larger deck than their opponent, which is game-winning in a match that is almost guaranteed to last a long time.
Zły Ludek They said it in the Road to Blizzcon stream (group stage and quarter finals for the world championship) last weekend, maybe you saw that?
It's an amusing quote, but I think the Priest that plays Ysera (and also successfully keeps Ysera) wins the game. You play Ysera, the opponent plays Mind Control, you Mind Control back, they play Sylvanas plus SW death, you counter with Sylvanas plus SW death, and then you finally win after X turns of free dream cards. I hate Priest versus Priest because I sometimes lose the game just because I don't have Sylvanas plus SW Death combo in my hand to get my Ysera back after it's stolen, and I end up losing to my own Ysera.
I feel like I could never get to high ranks with a deck like this
Not because either I or the deck are bad
But because I would pyromancer cleric mass healing spell and fatigue myself into oblivion every chance I get
Because it's so ~stylish~
Seeing you on a Hearthstone video makes me think of like making the Dispenser a card lol. It'd be like, a cross between a Flametongue totem (ammo regen is sort of like more attack?? and a Healing totem or something. And the Sentrygun would definitely be like Demolisher or Ragnaros and just do damage through an effect instead of actually attacking. They could also gain stats at the beginning of your turn (up to a maximum of 3 buffs.)
Teleporter
3 mana 0/4
The first minion you play each turn has Charge
Dell Conagher shaman Dust Devil might actually be used
akame ga kill :D
Card copying in priest started off so innocently…and now it’s infuriating.
Everyone is telling Trump how awesome he is even though I doubt he even reads this comments :(
I say thank you Jens for your work, du bist klasse :D
Demon Lock! :D Glad to see that deck doing well.
lol that hunter is called dream crusher XD what a fitting name
XD that description, you are awesome Jens.
Looking forward to your Warrior constructed tomorrow!
That description. Hahaha well played, Jens
60FPS HearthStone!
Do it Jens!
What the fuck is 60 fps gonna do in hearthstone, NOTHING
Wishcash1992 Not if you have granny eyes like you probably do :D
Wishcash1992 You'd be surprised how much more fluid the animations are when It's in 60 fps.
I'd say it was worth the slightly longer upload times.
Thought steal is my favorite card!
Me too, It makes the Total amount of cards in you deck, if you have 2 of them, 34 in total, because I don't count the actual Thought steal as a Card.
Michael Bowman That would make it 32 my good sir if you are truly not counting thoughtsteal as a card.
Michael Bowman Well, it's more that Thoughtsteal counts as a card, and transforms itself into another card while generating another one. So it's more like 32 cards.
TheAmberFang 31 cards
Ruuber2 Sure, if you run only one Thoughtsteal for some reason.
Hey, I should watch some trump... but there's a lot of Arenas. Bah. I'll watch them later. Wait. There's a constructed video. YES.
There aren't enough constructed videos. Its me or we're not seeing them all?
He is an 8 year old.
He tends to only do constructed at the beginning of a new season, to get to legends. Should try catch him live on twitch unless the time zones make it awkward
***** And yet you are still the one who posted useless comment that made pointless argue. There is nothing wrong in " I hope we see more constructed"
Constructed is literally nothing but "Warrior, Warlock, Warlock, Warrior, Warrior, Warlock, occasional gimmick deck, Warlock, Warrior, Warrior."
No one wants to see the same decks being used permanently. It's pointless. Trump likes teaching players about the game. What better way to do that than say "here's a random deck you're given, make it work regardless of how good it is", and he does by pulling off 10+ wins with even the worst decks out there.
If you want to go see the some boring constructed garbage where everyone just copies the most OP deck and perma-wins with it, you can go see that on ANY other Hearthstone channel out there. In the meantime, we'll sit here and enjoy Trump's actual dedication to not boring the piss out of his viewers.
ToveLrump
Priest looks so much fun to play when Trump plays it
Priest vs Priest; my favourite match-up.
foda-se
'Oh that is a good draw. No it is a really good draw. No....., how good of a draw is it?' xD
I was not prepared for 18:27
6:30. SYLVANAS INTO YSERA THEN POWER WORD SHIELD THE WILD PYRO. YOU COULD HAVE SAVED A 3/2 AND GOTTEN A MIND CONTROL FOR 1 MANA. WOW GG TRUMP
caps much?
I'm not sure, but I think that ysera wouldn't kill sylvanas.
But the power word shield on the pyromancer would deal 1 damage to all the minions. :) Hehe
And lose his Sylvanas for nothing? When he just could Mind Control it? GG Steve
UNFOLLOWED, UNSUBSCRIBED, UNDONATED! Kappa
Just got to see the new mech cards and man oh man theyre awesome
Trump should do a F2P Priest, because of the Dark Cultist and Zombie Chow. It would be Really fun to watch, in My opinion.
I think Trump is in love...
with the Zombie Chow! :D
Dah
14:48 why not steal spiderling? Sure the other card is higher value but it means you get a free card in lategame and it decreases the risk that he gets something stupid like King Krush.
Because secrets are always more devastating and theres almost an 100% chance he'll get a free secret as opposed to King Krush. Also Krush isnt great anyway.
If he gets explosive trap Trump goes too low in life.
You're right guys, didn't think about that. :)
Because the mad scientist couldn't be killed with his cleric and a secret could freezing trap the Yzera making it unplayable
***** would still won him the game
Playing as a priest, I have to say thought stealing juraxxus is pretty damn great.
26 minutes… thats a great play.
"Oh god. I just imagined Anduin fighting Twitch chat and using thought steal. The poor guy..." - He´d sure get a lot of whisps....
Well played trump.
Kel'thuzad has been fun in my deck. I'm not sure how good it is compared to other cards but it has won some games for me and it has never been bad.
4:30 Trump why...just put another 2 Northshire Cleric on the board -> Holy Nova -> 12 cards draw -> Circle of healing -> 24 cards draw -> Such A Card Advantage! :Kappa:
I guess that last game was well played
Jaraxxus is the only hero that I tolerate doing emote spamming. Its just so epic :)
I would appreciate more ranked!
Harrison Jones was just a topdeck away.
I don't think trump was prepared for that.
Safe to say, Trump was not prepared.
*braces
9:22 dark are controling things
Oooh thank you so much trump, thats good =)
I love your videos Trump keep it up!
Trump was not prepared for Illadin.
What the... Illidian is a demon? o.o
No... Is aculy Dolan.
ViDiMoSeSiNe311 ... What?
Mike It's to do with the spoderman meme (original poster's name and picture)
Aeons Black Diarrhea.
Mike
goosey goosey
dark cultist is way too strongk
I cri evry tim it getz koind ;_;
It's easy to take care of and the easy rule of thumb is kill everything else before it. Although in some scenarios that cant be helped. Usually you can counter it fairly easy. I will agree though that sometimes (and with some decks) you have no way to deal with it early.
No shit. It's supposed to be.
NoobyRussian It is hard to kill everything else when there is two of them
I agree.
"Oh god. I just imagined Anduin fighting Twitch chat and using thought steal." Twitch Plays Anduin Wrynn!
P R E P A R E B O Y S
Happy 600th video!
Ever since I lost as a Priest to some Warrior because I drew too many cards and started fatiguing first, I never make plays that draw me a full hand. Trump did not get punished at all for drawing so many cards, which leads me to think I'm just being overly paranoid.
that play is reasonable actually. I guess you got unlucky with your draws and got dead cards perhaps, against another slow deck card advantage is king.
at 22:50 why concede when top deck Harrison Jones is still possible
Aw, Trump, you had a Sludge Belcher. Why you no stay in? He was only at 10 health, or 9 if he hit the 1/2 slime. Such possible victory.
Is freeze Mage still good in this meta?
I'm genuinely confused by Trump's decision at 22:56. What if he topdecked Harrison Jones? How was that game over?
How do you delete deck on an iPad
Idk if Trump streams in 60FPS but will the videos be 60FPS soon? I would like to see that change
Question, the card LightWarden, does his ability proc with power word shield like Northshire does? Also does it proc with young Priestess ability? I'd check myself but don't have access to play hearthstone atm. Thanks in advance!
no, lightwarden doesn't proc on PWS, as PWS doesn't heal. Northshire doesn't proc on it either, PWS' effect is "give a minion +2 health, draw a card" the card draw you're seeing isn't from Northshire, it's part of PWS's effect. Easy to confuse, since the prime target for PWS is Northshire early game
I run pretty much this exact deck aside from the Harrison Jones (which I don't have) and I'm finding a lot of feugen+stalagg in my rank. What single card can I take to deal with that knowing that i'm trading it for harrison jones?
Well silence takes care of them. You just have to silence the second one to be played.
"Demon Lock" Is that a thing now?
hey, when the 100cards comes out tmr, can the competitors at blizzcon reform their decks
Dashiiiiirak Guldan
Trump was not prepared
I understand cabal shadow priest effect can be great sometimes but most of the times it's an over costed yeti.
That is 1 card I would switch for a silence or whatever you want to add.
Have you played constructed recently? Do you have any idea how many people are running Deathrattle crap, all of which can be taken with the Cabal Shadow Priest? Undertaker, Loot Hoarder, Haunted Creeper, Nerubian Egg, Harvest Golem, Mad Scientist, Zombie Chow, Leper Gnome, Acolyte of Pain, Unstable Ghoul, and some class specific guys in Webspinner, Northshire Cleric, Unbound Elemental, and Armorsmith. In almost every match-up, Cabal will have something to steal. In the worst case scenario, it will steal the 1/2 slime the Sludge Belcher makes when it dies, and that too is fine.
Most of the times they are already dead by a holy nova, auchenai+circle, pyro plus some spells before he can get any good deals in.
I would keep 1 but there's no need for 2.
lkjkhfggd
I agree, but if you switched a cabal shadow priest for a silence it is almost the same thing. You don't get to steal a minion + it's deathrattle effect, but it works against buffed up Undertakers and Unbound Elementals as well. I only say this because I don't own a 2nd shadow priest and run 1 silence like this person is suggesting.
Well if any of you had your doubts about Cabal Shadow Priest before, they should all be gone after the expansion. Shrinkmeister giving -2 attack means Priest can now steal any minion with 4 or less attack. OP
For sure! The dream is to steal Ysera's :D
what is his battle net name?
lolwha... my deathrattle priest sucks and i took out some decent handlocks today.
But it's also a more "mid-rangy" one.
Thx Trump!
Why Holy Smite and not Shadow Word:Pain?
Thanks if someone tells me because I think this card is really good
Undertaker
Because Smite costs 1 less Mana, and It can kill almost any turn 1 play.
Also it combos better with Pyro since since it's cheaper.
Holy Smite and Shadow Word: Pain aren't actually that comparable in my opinion. Holy Smite is 2 direct damage to anything, while Pain is hard removal with specific requirements.
Better considerations are Holy Smite vs Holy Fire (both direct damage) and Shadow Word: Pain vs Shadow Madness vs Cabal Shadow Priest (all specifically target low attack minions.).
Anyone else find it strange that Mass Dispel is so unpopular? It seems like it would have even more value with all of the death rattle decks in the ladder.
I agree, because It also draws you a card. which is Value.
Outside of countering Shaman's totems it's pretty garbagey. Too costly, situational, doesn't do enough. Just like poison seeds, not effective.
its in my control priest deck xD
It just hasn't been discovered yet. The 0 mana silence card synergizes better with Wild Pyromancer, and you usually only need to silence a single target at any one moment during a game, and Mass Dispel is super expensive, so that's why it's favored. I usually only want to silence two minions during any average control game (Sylvanas and Cairne), though sometimes I also want to silence Feugen/Stalagg or Savannah Highmane or Shade of Nax. It's worth a try running, but every card in this Priest deck is valuable, so it's difficult to choose what to toss.
You would think it would be good with all the deathrattle decks, but after playing with it for about a week on ladder, I found that it was too slow most of the time. The fact that it costs 4 mana is really what kills it since most deathrattle decks are fast enough that you have to continuously clear to keep up with them. That's what I've found, anyway, but it's possible I'm wrong and just had a week of bad luck with it.
Can someone explain the one golden card, Why does Trump only use one gold card? lol
Yup
Maybe a spell breaker?
24:48 Yeah, infinite mana Kappa
Trump is so awesome :D
*I don't get it why double doomhammer is good. 16 charges?! in what game are you going to use them all??*
*plus much overload. plus much self-damage.*
Doomhammer + Rockbiter = 10 Damage Burst
Doomhammer + 2x Rockbiter = 16 Damage Burst
I guess doubles because he is missing something else in the decklist (Al'Akir maybe? I don't know how that decklist looks like) and instead runs double Doomhammer.
Marcus Tullius Cicero It is also to make sure you draw Doomhammer
In case you don't have time to wait for the single one you have to show up
Marcus Tullius Cicero Doomhammer is good by Itself, thats why he runs 2 of them. it can kill around 4 things or deal a total of 5 Mana for 16 damage over 4 truns.
It's pretty essential that you draw into a Doomhammer in that type of burst shaman, so a lot of them run 2 just to increase the probability of drawing into it. Also in case it gets Harrisoned or Oozed they can play the second and still burst.
Most likely, the plan for a deck using double Doomhammer is to kill the opponent without actually drawing both. I mean, it sucks to draw both, but it sucks in the same way that it sucks for Zoolock to draw into both Doomguards.
in case i don't own ysera anyone got an idea with which card i can replace it to great effect?
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imKriwz Thats a good idea! A wisp would also work I think.
there is no replacement,
Ysera is one of the best cards in the game and its features are unique
But in a pinch Rag or one of the other dragons
Ragnaros is a good idea
imKriwz
You can fish for cards with Nat Pagle :D
bad idea
23:47
Bring out your bed
:D
I'll show dem I'll show dem balls
Hey fellow Trump fans! Can I have your opinions and suggestions about the changes I had to make to this deck?
Ysera, Sylvanas, Harisson Jones --> 2nd Mind control, Ragnaros, Acidic swamp ooze
I feel Jones serves as a decent 5drop except for his awesome battlecry so ooze is a bit underwhelming, though still neccecery.
What do you think :)
Normally you can assume that swapping Ysera for Rag is not a problem, it's preference and also depends on the meta. If people play a lot of Big Game Hunters you might wanna play Ysera instead. Also Rag doesn't give as much value against rush decks as their minions are small. Ooze is of course the natural pickup instead of the Harrison and Sylvanas is just a solid and very annoying card anyway, just like Mind control :)
I think that 1 Ooze is needed, but you should only run Harrison only when the Meta is Warrior, Shaman, and Paladin. 2 Mind Controls are to many, just use 1 and a Slyvanas. Ragnaros does not fit in this Deck style, in my Opinion.
I agree with both of the above comments to some degree. I think ooze and Rag are fine, although Rag may be a bit worse than Ysera with all the decks that spam minions right now. The second mind control is too many though. You'll rarely get the chance to play 1 unless you're playing against a heavy control deck, and with all the hunters and deathrattle priests/zoo running around, you'll have an even harder time playing 1, much less 2.
I don't think Ooze is necessary. You can beat control warrior convincingly without killing his weapons, Doomhammer is kinda rare, and Rogue is whatever. I run a 2nd Shadow word Death instead of Harrison Jones and I much prefer it.
I am of the opinion that Sylvanas and Ysera are the most important cards in control Priest and are not replaceable. Ragnaros is significantly weaker because lots of dudes just tech in that one BGH. I think it's better to put in The Black Knight/Cairne Bloodhoof over Rag. With that said, if you don't have the cards, your replacements are okay. I'd probably try a Dark Iron Dwarf over 2nd mind control so I could hopefully buff and then Shadow word death an enemy Ysera. 2 mind controls is super terrible versus all aggro decks.
lkjkhfggd The second death can be extremely helpful against some decks. Against zoo it is absolutely devasting though and will often be a dead card. I find the ooze to be pretty good against hunters and warriors and otherwise it's just a normal 3/2 which can help you stuff the board against zoo. These choices really depend on the current meta game. Black Knight and Ysera are almost always viable as you said. I've been playing Hogger instead of Cairne for a while now and must say it is the bane of aggro decks, if you play it right.
what program do you use to show your decklist?
hearthstone deck tracker can show you your cards
***** It's not cheating, it's a program that can easily be done by using a sheet of paper, so Blizzard doesn't mind;hence, why it hasn't been mentioned. Don't classify something as cheating if you don't know what you're talking about.
IRinzler
*Warning, this is a block of text concerning legality and company discretion.* Read the tl;dr if you want to take my word for it, or visit the TOU yourself here: us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/about/termsofuse.html
It's a blurred line with a broad definition, but the reasons you stated are not relevant. The terms of service state:
_"Any use of the Service or any Game in violation of the License Limitations will be regarded as a breach of this Agreement and an infringement of Blizzard’s copyrights in and to the Service and/or Game. You agree that you will not, under any circumstances:_
_use cheats, automation software (bots), hacks, mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Service, any Game or any Game experience; ..."_
By this definition, using a sheet of paper is fine. Whether you're keeping track of cards or not is no-one's concern. This particular choice of words is definitely a hard-stop to any software-related card tracking attempts:
_"to modify the Service, any Game or any _*_Game experience_*_"_
It is often argued that the files used to track cards aren't considered integral or "deep" enough to violate the Terms of Use, but those last two words really state one thing; "if we think you're hacking, don't bullshit us with the technicalities, because we maintain the right to punish you regardless."
On top of this, they do state this specifically:
_"No Data Mining._
_You agree that you will not (a) obtain or attempt to obtain _*_any information from the Service or any Game using any method not expressly permitted by Blizzard;_*_ (b) intercept, examine or otherwise observe any proprietary communications protocol used by a Game client or the Service, whether through the use of a network analyzer, packet sniffer or other device; (c) use any third-party software to collect information from or through a Game client or the Service, including without limitation _*_information about your character, any Account registered to you, virtual items, other players, or other Game data_*_."_
Again, many people find this to be a subjective notion. However, it's pretty obvious that they are disallowing methods that are not provided by Blizzard officially.
*tl;dr:* Blizzard essentially says "fuck you" to anyone attempting to find loopholes, as they've plugged pretty much everything. Not to mention that using a program most certainly isn't ethically synonymous with pen & paper methods, which is slow, distracting, and subject to user error.
***** I was talking about automatic deck trackers. Ones that run during the game.
I apologize if this was not clear.
Destroyaj Aaaand take another shot.
why everything normal and a single kabal golden?
Because Trump doesn't have a 2nd Regular Kabal, so he used a golden one he either got in a Card Pack or as an Arena Reward.
kit
How old is this video BTW?
0 days old
Wishcash1992 u want to say that it's november 6 and trump is only at rank 14?
JaLoveast1k Inc. He has a bunch of accounts on different servers.
The first one was a bot
Hello Trump, I'm a big fan of yours and I have a challenge for you :)
Achieve Legendary in the next season using class only cards (hero of your choice)
I hope you accept, but you're free to decline :)
Unfortunately Trump does not manage or read comments on his youtube channel. You would need to go to his twitch and hopefully get him to see it there.
Sludge Belcher is the most annoying card in HS. Every deck plays 2.
if u zombie chowed at 11:10 then circle of healing could have done an additional 5 damage.
While true, I'm sure trump would rather have a 2/3 body over a mind blast at that point of the game
soulpriest would die and he would be healed for 5 instead.
When the circle kill soul priest it goes back to heal
i tried it already as long as zombie chow dies when the soul priest dies it should still damage
Allen Yoo No, it heals. I've killed the Soul Priest and Chow together before (forgot that Drake will actually buff the Circle, so it did 5 instead of 4), and if the Soul Priest dies at the same time the Chow will heal. Very nearly lost a game because of it.
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Double doomhammer shaman? what a noob... easy games
Maybe he put 2 so he has more chance of getting it by turn 6 or so then he can combo it with rockbitter weapon to do 16 damage
bladmaster is too OP turn 2 blademaster cirlce is a 4-7 on turn 2 Blizzard plz nefr
First one to comment and like
This is false, because There are people who commented before you.
2rd
Congratulations on not having finished elementary school!
first oh yeah
False.Someone already said that. (aldin Hasanovic)
Thank god trump has an editor, he goes to rope on every single turn. Sooooooooooo boring, and imo noobie
***** I watch because the editor gets rid of all the long overthinking
***** well I enjoy watching his edited gameplay, but can't watch him live.
I hate priests. most of the time, the only way they win is by stealing cards from the better classes. Like it is our fault priests were not given good cards and have to steal. Which is not a very priestly thing to do.
It's a shadow priest thing.
man your gonna hate it more when the shrinkmeister + cabal combo wombo hits ladder!