I feel like Mountain Giant, Twilight Drake and Defender of Argus have hidden card text. Twilight Drake - Your opponent draws a silence Mountain Giant - Your opponent draws Big Game Hunter Defender of Argus - NONE SHALL PAASSSS!
That final druid deck was fascinating; heavy anti-zoo/hunter ramp with just one BGH target (dr. boom.) And just being a druid could cause other control decks, (which might otherwise have an advantage) to make defensive plays (which is what happened to Trump.)
***** It happened to me the other day playing hunter for a quest. I don't remember what happened but I knew he couldn't win and he got super lucky and we tied. It says defeat at the end. No rank loss. Reset my streak. I was pretty upset.
Matthew Persad It counts as a tie, but they don't have a "You tied" screen so they just say you both lose with no losses or benefits. Basically the game never happened.
8:30 had something like that happen to me. It ends up being a tie because deathrattles must happen before a game ends so hellfire kills op, leper gnome kill you and since you are both dead at the end of the resolution its a tie.
I watched this live and i wondered about the play at 14:50 I feel since you have healbot as a stabilizer, and you just want a beefy board after a bgh play, why not darkbomb self (2), Molten Molten (2 mana total, since you hurt yourself) then sunfury for a total for 6/7 mana. I think placing the tauntwall then healing with bot/argus/removal or whatever would be better than hellfire darkbomb giant.
I think Trump forgot about tempo in the last game. Instead of trading 3 minions in and dropping Jaraxxus for that tempo swing while being able to drop 6/6s every turn and be safe from Force Savage with the heal bot while the druid doesn't have a board or a hand.
Sea gigant is a thing because we have wayyy more sticky creatures that are not removed quickly like the others in meta. Haunted, Slodgebulcher and Piloted Shreader are those creatures. IMO sea gigant is now better that ever. When you drop it you can also recombobulate him into Deathwing, Sea gigant and Deathwing are the only 10 drops in the game do you have 50/50 chances for 8/8 and 3/2 or 12/12 and 3/2.
I'm well aware that recombobulator, as with unstable portal, can't give minions generated through special effects, but my post was In response to your statement of 'sea giant and Deathwing are the only 10 drops in the game' which is factually incorrect, instead you should have said that they are the only 10 mana outcome from the recombobulator.
Ivor Biggun Drop means minion you can "drop"-play. You dont play Thadius or Voltron, you summon them. Same with Palladins and Shaman heropower, they summon minions, not play them.
28:30 the better move was hellfire then BGH then either molten taunt or double molten taunt depending on the bomb hits. In the worst case he can't taunt, but then the guy wasn't running combo anyway. Probably would have led to a win.
I want to play handlock so I copied your deck, I miss one of each giants and jaraxxus though so I replaced them with 2x Shade of Naxx and a second antique healbot. Is this a good replacement? If not, what would be better?
You can replace Jaraxxus but you can't replace giants in handlock because giants are what make the deck strong/unfair. I believe someone once asked him the same question on stream (I think the guy was missing one molten) and he said not to play the deck. :/ You can rank for sure with your deck but it's not even close to be as strong as with the giants.
TheTillify You misunderstand the context. Trump has said before that every competitive deck needs something somewhat "Unfair" to be viable. For handlock it's the 8/8s for cheap mana. For Druid it's the constant threat of the Force/Savage. Warrior is cheap removal through weapon charges.
I don't think he lost because of his last two cards, if that is what you meant. It looks like he thinks he could have made better plays a few times. I'm not good enough at the game to say either way where he went wrong, but he made more mistakes, so he lost.
Sounds a little whacky, but in the 2nd match against the druid you could have tapped, dark bombed yourself, giant giant and sunfury. It might have only earned you another turn, but it was all or nothing at that point it seemed.
At 28:30 Trump could have done: Hellfire to kill both Boom-bots, which would probably take him to 10 health, and then play BGH on Dr. Boom and play double Molten with Sunfury. It would have put lethal on board...
Im pretty sure that since the opponent's hp hit 0 before his deathrattle went off you would win, for the same reason that he loses once his hp hit 0 before the chow healed him.
I feel like tapping furiously and trying for Moltens instead of going straight for Jarraxus lost Trump that last game. Just an opinion, but I think he needed to set up the kill and failed to do so.
In the game against the druid, couldn't he have hellfired the boom bots, hoping for them to hit high, then played 2 molten and sunfury? Might have been better than leaving them to get value later.
If all the hero powers were 0-cost cards, we'd already have a few. Paladins summon 1/1 like a Wisp, Mage deals 1 damage, like Moonfire. So, 0-mana deal 2 damage to your hero, draw a card (like a warlock) would be fun, nice for spell-combo cards, but is it good?
if warlock's ability was a card that did exactly as described, 0 mana deal 2 damage to hero and draw a card it would be auto include in a lot of decks. 2 damage is not very much compared to how it thins a deck and makes it more consistent. we already see shiv (2 mana for 1 card) and wild growth (granted this has another purpose too, but after the early game its saved for digging) It'd be a really REALLY strong card.
If you both hit 0 at same time you both lose. Used Hellfire today when my brother and i were sub 3. We both got defeat screens. Idk if leper would since it technically activates after the chain.
In second game he should play dark bomb in his own face into 2x molten + protector it was 2+2x1+2=6 and 2 x 8/8 taunt creature ;) Ancient with buff have only 7/5 so cant kill molten by his own, and that way he have one more turn.
Hey guys can anyone make any improvements to this Druid deck? Innervate x2 Wild growth Annoy-o-tron Anodized robo cub x2 mechwarper x2 big game hunter harvest golem x2 spider tank x2 tinkertown technician x2 swipe keeper of the grove x2 mechanical yeti x2 piloted shredder x2 sludge belcher mech-bear-cat piloted sky golem sylvanas windrunner ancient of lore dr. boom sneeds old shredder mekgineer thermaplug This deck plays okay, but was wondering if anyone sees any obvious improvements. Thanks!
yeah that would be good, like mekgineer thermaplug maybe, he normally gets good value but it seems when i play him i already have a high chance of winning and doesn't really contribute to getting me there. I'll definitely consider it thanks!
None, everything you see in these videos that isn't basic gameplay is edited in later by Jens, the admin of this channel and trumps one man editorial team.
Die Frau Although these are directly edited this - github.com/Epix37/Hearthstone-Deck-Tracker/releases - tracker does the same thing. Only works for windows though.
You would win because hellfire does damage then stuff dies, including him, THEN deathrattles trigger so no it wouldnt also due to blizzard not knowing the meaning of a tie
Not necessarily, because trump would have *also* died. It may have come after "things die" but it comes before the victory/defeat decision is made, which means it could decide on a tie. And yes, Blizzard does know the meaning of a tie, in the event of a tie, nothing happens, both players are left at the same rank.
8:40 first person to zero loses. If there is a spell that causes both to go to zero, both parties lose. I was about to win once and the prick made us both lose.
I'm pretty sure the game turns out as a draw if the leper gnome kills you the same you you kill the opposing hero. Don't take my word for it though. :/
ok trump only lost the last game because he did a pretty bad play the turn after the opponent played Dr Boom at 28:00 he should have played hellfire big game hunter molten molten sunfury instead it would have got a really good clear mayor threaths and he could have played lord Jaraxus the turn after and his opponent coulndt do anything against it
First hellfire on a empty board garanties 2 boombothits to the face so he would be at 7 and only Dr boom would be alive next he play BGH and kills Dr boom then he plays 2molten for free and a sunfurry to taunt the moltens the resault is he has 7 life 2 8/8 molten with taunt 1sunfurry and 1 BGH and the opponent has nothing and no real way to deal with the board and because you habe most likely 7 health and complet boardcontroll the next turn you play jaraxus the next turn and simply win
Play requires both boom bots to hit him to or below 10. Potentially a disaster if they set him above 11( At least at 11 you could still play one giant and taunt). If they fail he potentially loses on the spot to force savage or barely survives by using a taunt giver on a BGH(Which wouldnt save him if he was set to 12). Not saying it wasnt a viable play but it is an all in play, almost guarantees win if successful but can guarantee loss if failed. Trump went with the safer play.
So many mistakes trump... For example u didnt darkbomb urself in game 2 to be able zo play 2 malten giant and the sunfury with it... Kinda sad that u didn,t seoe that play :(
Why can a Legend 13 player face a Legend 944 player? Why can Legend players face rank 3 players? Why was Trump playing Handlock when seemingly EVERYONE is running BGH? Why not try with that Mech Druid he made?
Also MMR (matchmaking rating) is a thing. I don't know how it works for hearthstone but for most games that have some sort of ranked or ladder system there is an underlying elo-score (how good you are relative to other players originally developed for chess I think). Since division or league systems tend too somewhat smoothe out everything your playstrength can differ from your rank. Consequently if you are streaking really hard the matchmaking (due to elo/mmr) will start putting you up against stronger/higher rank players even if you are at significantly lower ranks. In addition what epicriceable said also applies, if the player base is high enough it doesn't matter as much, but still at the top there are naturally less players. However since players do not want to queue excessive amounts of time to get a game matchmaking will adjust when there are not enough players. Yet, I think your rank loss/gain at least at legend is also dependent on whether you were favored to win based on mmr. I hope i've answered your question
After rank 5 (sea giant) the ranking system matches players based on a hidden MMR value instead of purely like for like ranks, to likely increase the available player pool for higher ranked players (wouldn't be too much fun having to wait in hours long queues to get a game).
I feel like Mountain Giant, Twilight Drake and Defender of Argus have hidden card text.
Twilight Drake - Your opponent draws a silence
Mountain Giant - Your opponent draws Big Game Hunter
Defender of Argus - NONE SHALL PAASSSS!
why are your opponents silencing your azure drakes
Nathan Parker to undo the card draw
Kappa
More like
Defender of Argus - Your opponent draws Black Knight
alternate241 it doesn't wrk that way. As Azure Drake's card draw is from a battle cry, you can't silence it because the card draw happens instantly
Lord Lucifer I forgot to add Kappa to my statement
"The bitterness in my soul tastes like unbrewed coffee." -Trump
bitterboys
I almost misread the title because I was too busy having a heart attack at the first 4 words of it.
me too lllllllllllol
I do not understand :|
Duch "Trump's Last Games" High intensity in those words you see ? When they are alone.
What are you doing uploading these ancient videos?
they're like a day old...
Cameron M You serious? They're from last year!
Cameron M they're soooo last year man.
Cameron M they're like a year old
Guess that makes us, Ancient Watchers.
Guys. Turn on Subtitles/CC. Pause at 0:18. You're welcome.
Trump is racist, confirmed..... by TH-cam Subtitles...
That final druid deck was fascinating; heavy anti-zoo/hunter ramp with just one BGH target (dr. boom.) And just being a druid could cause other control decks, (which might otherwise have an advantage) to make defensive plays (which is what happened to Trump.)
"These are some of the last games Trump played in 2014. So nostalgic." Best descriptions of any videos in 2014, hands down.
The amount of times I've run into Dr Boom... Makes me wonder if it's O-
Wait, I can't say that. It can't be because "we deserve a good 7 drop!".
I love how much the meta changed! Dark bomb for soul fire and dr boom. So many changes!
Ah. 2014. I remember it like it was just yesterday.
If that Leper Gnome had killed you you both would have lost the match
That´s wrong. In ranked mode and arena the game is tied. Only in casual both players lose.
soeinkrankerscheiss
I have had a double-loss situation due to Leper Gnome and I rarely play in casual so I'm not so sure. Can you confirm this?
***** I could be wrong, it's been a while. But from what I recall, you see the loss screen, but don't lose stars or anything.
***** It happened to me the other day playing hunter for a quest. I don't remember what happened but I knew he couldn't win and he got super lucky and we tied. It says defeat at the end. No rank loss. Reset my streak. I was pretty upset.
Matthew Persad
It counts as a tie, but they don't have a "You tied" screen so they just say you both lose with no losses or benefits. Basically the game never happened.
"I've been playing around a phantom." Hmm, well said.
8:30 had something like that happen to me. It ends up being a tie because deathrattles must happen before a game ends so hellfire kills op, leper gnome kill you and since you are both dead at the end of the resolution its a tie.
I watched this live and i wondered about the play at 14:50
I feel since you have healbot as a stabilizer, and you just want a beefy board after a bgh play, why not darkbomb self (2), Molten Molten (2 mana total, since you hurt yourself) then sunfury for a total for 6/7 mana.
I think placing the tauntwall then healing with bot/argus/removal or whatever would be better than hellfire darkbomb giant.
I think Trump forgot about tempo in the last game. Instead of trading 3 minions in and dropping Jaraxxus for that tempo swing while being able to drop 6/6s every turn and be safe from Force Savage with the heal bot while the druid doesn't have a board or a hand.
Sea gigant is a thing because we have wayyy more sticky creatures that are not removed quickly like the others in meta. Haunted, Slodgebulcher and Piloted Shreader are those creatures. IMO sea gigant is now better that ever. When you drop it you can also recombobulate him into Deathwing, Sea gigant and Deathwing are the only 10 drops in the game do you have 50/50 chances for 8/8 and 3/2 or 12/12 and 3/2.
You forgot thaddius which is also a 10 cost minion
Ivor Biggun no. Thaddius won't come. Cuz it is a token.
I'm well aware that recombobulator, as with unstable portal, can't give minions generated through special effects, but my post was In response to your statement of 'sea giant and Deathwing are the only 10 drops in the game' which is factually incorrect, instead you should have said that they are the only 10 mana outcome from the recombobulator.
Ivor Biggun
Drop means minion you can "drop"-play. You dont play Thadius or Voltron, you summon them. Same with Palladins and Shaman heropower, they summon minions, not play them.
you can drop play them with brewmaster Kappa
28:30 the better move was hellfire then BGH then either molten taunt or double molten taunt depending on the bomb hits. In the worst case he can't taunt, but then the guy wasn't running combo anyway. Probably would have led to a win.
I want to play handlock so I copied your deck, I miss one of each giants and jaraxxus though so I replaced them with 2x Shade of Naxx and a second antique healbot. Is this a good replacement? If not, what would be better?
You can replace Jaraxxus but you can't replace giants in handlock because giants are what make the deck strong/unfair. I believe someone once asked him the same question on stream (I think the guy was missing one molten) and he said not to play the deck. :/ You can rank for sure with your deck but it's not even close to be as strong as with the giants.
giants are what make the deck scary, vs control; mountain win the early, vs aggro molten shuts it down.
MindereakIT Giants are not unfair in Handlock. You can easily play around them, at least arount the Molten ones...
TheTillify You misunderstand the context. Trump has said before that every competitive deck needs something somewhat "Unfair" to be viable. For handlock it's the 8/8s for cheap mana. For Druid it's the constant threat of the Force/Savage. Warrior is cheap removal through weapon charges.
***** Yep that's what I meant of course :)
I was watching this in the stream, was so painful, the game he lost because the last 2 cards were a mountain giant and a twilight drake
I don't think he lost because of his last two cards, if that is what you meant. It looks like he thinks he could have made better plays a few times. I'm not good enough at the game to say either way where he went wrong, but he made more mistakes, so he lost.
Damn im tired of warlock, cant trump play some shaman or any other class?
He said he will change it up next season.
Today, on a stream he played some shaman.
I mean on youtube i dont watch streams
handloc too good. but yeah seeing some more control warrior or pally would be cool. Possibly a pirate deck?
SpunkyDude They are the same vids, just on youtube its edited.
Sounds a little whacky, but in the 2nd match against the druid you could have tapped, dark bombed yourself, giant giant and sunfury. It might have only earned you another turn, but it was all or nothing at that point it seemed.
At 28:30 Trump could have done: Hellfire to kill both Boom-bots, which would probably take him to 10 health, and then play BGH on Dr. Boom and play double Molten with Sunfury. It would have put lethal on board...
Thought that ramp druid was going to get stomped into the ground... Really nice match tho.
that last druid game was so sad.
Is Soulfire still worth to play in Handlock?
Im pretty sure that since the opponent's hp hit 0 before his deathrattle went off you would win, for the same reason that he loses once his hp hit 0 before the chow healed him.
I feel like tapping furiously and trying for Moltens instead of going straight for Jarraxus lost Trump that last game. Just an opinion, but I think he needed to set up the kill and failed to do so.
In the game against the druid, couldn't he have hellfired the boom bots, hoping for them to hit high, then played 2 molten and sunfury? Might have been better than leaving them to get value later.
only counter to jaraxxus would be sacrificial pact, luckily i doubt any higher ranked warlock runs sacrificial
Wow I love your videos your the best keep it up man:)!!
If all the hero powers were 0-cost cards, we'd already have a few. Paladins summon 1/1 like a Wisp, Mage deals 1 damage, like Moonfire. So, 0-mana deal 2 damage to your hero, draw a card (like a warlock) would be fun, nice for spell-combo cards, but is it good?
No because moonfire and wisp both suck too
if warlock's ability was a card that did exactly as described, 0 mana deal 2 damage to hero and draw a card it would be auto include in a lot of decks. 2 damage is not very much compared to how it thins a deck and makes it more consistent. we already see shiv (2 mana for 1 card) and wild growth (granted this has another purpose too, but after the early game its saved for digging)
It'd be a really REALLY strong card.
What card tracker you using?
how can i get this thing on the side to see wich cards i've already used?
Hi Trump please the new season started =) made a F2P of Druid, will be nice to see!
Why does that druid run Shieldmastas in his deck? Seems like Druid of the Claw and Sludge Belcher are a lot better.
11:33 not sure how much it would have saved him, but perhaps darkbombing himself and doing double molten sunfury may have been a better play.
What program does he use to keep track of his deck and cards he has drawn?
It's added in editing
:/
If you both hit 0 at same time you both lose.
Used Hellfire today when my brother and i were sub 3. We both got defeat screens. Idk if leper would since it technically activates after the chain.
spell power with imp-losion (sick!)
i thought the botters were meant to be released from there ban at the start of 2015?
11:48 Dark bomb yourself so you can play both giants and sunfury protector ?
In second game he should play dark bomb in his own face into 2x molten + protector it was 2+2x1+2=6 and 2 x 8/8 taunt creature ;) Ancient with buff have only 7/5 so cant kill molten by his own, and that way he have one more turn.
*Subtitles at **03:25** and a bit forward.*
this deck takes a long time to win a game
Wow rank 18 that´s pretty nice!
Hey guys can anyone make any improvements to this Druid deck?
Innervate x2
Wild growth
Annoy-o-tron
Anodized robo cub x2
mechwarper x2
big game hunter
harvest golem x2
spider tank x2
tinkertown technician x2
swipe
keeper of the grove x2
mechanical yeti x2
piloted shredder x2
sludge belcher
mech-bear-cat
piloted sky golem
sylvanas windrunner
ancient of lore
dr. boom
sneeds old shredder
mekgineer thermaplug
This deck plays okay, but was wondering if anyone sees any obvious improvements. Thanks!
i would take out one the the late game legionaries for another swipe
yeah that would be good, like mekgineer thermaplug maybe, he normally gets good value but it seems when i play him i already have a high chance of winning and doesn't really contribute to getting me there. I'll definitely consider it thanks!
88:28 Trump, it would be tie.
And I didn't find my Spare Part!
What Addons do you use? I'd love to use them.
What do you mean by add ons? The cards on the side?
None, everything you see in these videos that isn't basic gameplay is edited in later by Jens, the admin of this channel and trumps one man editorial team.
Ivor Biggun That must take absolutely forever to do.
Die Frau Although these are directly edited this - github.com/Epix37/Hearthstone-Deck-Tracker/releases - tracker does the same thing. Only works for windows though.
in the end it says Subscribe and you'll fine a spare part under you'r pillow ...
hope its time rewinder v.v
_"The bitterness, in my soul."_
*Famous last words of Trump, 2014, Rank 25*
OH WAIT THIS IS JUST PART 1?!
Guiles theme music starts playing
He said "The bitterness in my soul... tastes like unbrewed coffee."
Drink with me, friend!
Tastes like... *looks at camera dramatically* *puts on aviators*
Unbrewed coffee.
YEEEAAAAAHHHHHHH!
if zoo isnt aggro, why are they running leper gnome?
Why do u need to spend all mana each turn?
You would win because hellfire does damage then stuff dies, including him, THEN deathrattles trigger so no it wouldnt also due to blizzard not knowing the meaning of a tie
Not necessarily, because trump would have *also* died. It may have come after "things die" but it comes before the victory/defeat decision is made, which means it could decide on a tie. And yes, Blizzard does know the meaning of a tie, in the event of a tie, nothing happens, both players are left at the same rank.
Nope, doesn't matter. All damage continues to play out even if one opponent has reached zero. This would result in both players dying and losing.
I got a draw once and the game considered it a loss which is bullshit my rank should've stayed exactly the same
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Why does trump run 2 zombie chows and no recombobulator?
MISPLAY 14:00 he coiled the silenced leper nome allowing the unslilenced one to do 2 extra dmg for free
What the fuck? xD
i do not understand your logic sir
You didn't math that right. If he coiled the unsilenced gnome, he'd still end up at 16 after the hellfire.
WELL PLAYED
8:40 first person to zero loses. If there is a spell that causes both to go to zero, both parties lose. I was about to win once and the prick made us both lose.
When your own chows stab you in the back lol
It's like shaman and rogue are getting no love from trump
Warlock, druid, warlock, druid, warlock, druid...
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automatic captions. Just do it
if you where at 2< when the leper goes off the game would end in a tie.
2014 kids will remember
Had the Leper Gnome killed you in think both would've lost. Dunno how the ranks are affected though.
I'm pretty sure the game turns out as a draw if the leper gnome kills you the same you you kill the opposing hero. Don't take my word for it though. :/
twitch recent broadcasts of trumps videos is all fuggin broken
It's a shame that despite GvG this is what the top meta looks like, Warlock vs Warlock 90% of games :/
29:30 just hit beldger, double hellfire and double giant and sunfury. Easy
That only works if you are lucky enough to have boombot deal at least 2 damage to yourself. Otherwise, Molten Giant costs 2 mana.
if the leaper Gnome hits you and kills you as well you both lose.
if you and the opponent die at the same time it will be draw and both will lose : (
Am I the only ont who thougt to dark bomb his own face, then double giant sunfury ?
8:30 I'm guessing a draw.
If you die while the opponents die, you both lose. Not both win, it isn't a tie, you just both lose.
TRUMP! I BEG YOU! UPDATE THE ARENA LIST! PLEASE! Arena Value is something ridicuosly stupid (sorry if i'm making grammar mistakes)
If the gnome killed you it would be a "tie" well sorta, both players loses.
if you both die you both lose me and a friend tried it once
I miss 2014... just in general.. 2023 sucks
ok trump only lost the last game because he did a pretty bad play the turn after the opponent played Dr Boom at 28:00 he should have played hellfire big game hunter molten molten sunfury instead
it would have got a really good clear mayor threaths and he could have played lord Jaraxus the turn after and his opponent coulndt do anything against it
That would only work if the boom bots hit him for at least 5 total.
First hellfire on a empty board garanties 2 boombothits to the face so he would be at 7 and only Dr boom would be alive next he play BGH and kills Dr boom then he plays 2molten for free and a sunfurry to taunt the moltens the resault is he has 7 life 2 8/8 molten with taunt 1sunfurry and 1 BGH and the opponent has nothing and no real way to deal with the board and because you habe most likely 7 health and complet boardcontroll the next turn you play jaraxus the next turn and simply win
HalbschattenRiku Boom bots can deal 1-4 damage, randomly. Meaning they could have dealt 2 damage to him, total.
Play requires both boom bots to hit him to or below 10. Potentially a disaster if they set him above 11( At least at 11 you could still play one giant and taunt). If they fail he potentially loses on the spot to force savage or barely survives by using a taunt giver on a BGH(Which wouldnt save him if he was set to 12). Not saying it wasnt a viable play but it is an all in play, almost guarantees win if successful but can guarantee loss if failed. Trump went with the safer play.
math why u so hard!
So many mistakes trump... For example u didnt darkbomb urself in game 2 to be able zo play 2 malten giant and the sunfury with it... Kinda sad that u didn,t seoe that play :(
8:34 you asked if you he would hav elost yes you would i did that mistake
In African each time 60 seconds passes, 1 minute passes
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Why can a Legend 13 player face a Legend 944 player?
Why can Legend players face rank 3 players?
Why was Trump playing Handlock when seemingly EVERYONE is running BGH?
Why not try with that Mech Druid he made?
Also MMR (matchmaking rating) is a thing. I don't know how it works for hearthstone but for most games that have some sort of ranked or ladder system there is an underlying elo-score (how good you are relative to other players originally developed for chess I think). Since division or league systems tend too somewhat smoothe out everything your playstrength can differ from your rank. Consequently if you are streaking really hard the matchmaking (due to elo/mmr) will start putting you up against stronger/higher rank players even if you are at significantly lower ranks.
In addition what epicriceable said also applies, if the player base is high enough it doesn't matter as much, but still at the top there are naturally less players. However since players do not want to queue excessive amounts of time to get a game matchmaking will adjust when there are not enough players. Yet, I think your rank loss/gain at least at legend is also dependent on whether you were favored to win based on mmr.
I hope i've answered your question
After rank 5 (sea giant) the ranking system matches players based on a hidden MMR value instead of purely like for like ranks, to likely increase the available player pool for higher ranked players (wouldn't be too much fun having to wait in hours long queues to get a game).
taunt OP
If u both take lethal u both get defeat answer to tht question at the beging
LOL 2014 vid what a joke, this is from last year Jens!
Rank one legend my ass.
rip in pepperoni 2014
Wow That game was really interesting. I did not expect trump to loose but I guess he can't win every game :)
Last game gave me cancer.
you both lose if you kill him and that gnome have lethal on you
*Can you show us your teddy bear?*
Ich schwöre bester man
If Lepregnome killed you there,you both would have lost. at least it's what happens if both players go below 0 in any other situation.
if leper gnomb woulda killed you it would have been a loss for both of u
You lose if the 2 die
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