Abuse Of Officials(Penalties)
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As much as everyone wants to do it, if you actually push the ref on purpose you are an absolute plug.
Don't be naive, No one grows up wanting to work as Ref. In hockey because the sport is so expensive to run even for the leagues themselves , even in these clips of semi pro leagues, and I'm sure in the UK league ..those refs were players before, AND are players of other teams, coaches working as refs in games of different teams. they got their faves, in which they make calls for sometimes. and I'm sure some earned what they got. we all seen shitty refs in the NHL, so imagine the level and bias in lower leagues.
@@oriamir8994 you are horribly mistaken and deeply cynical if that is what you believe. I have been a minor league ref for 8 years and in my experience it is very very rare for a ref to favour one team or another out of loyalty or favouritism. It is far more common that a ref will hold a grudge against a team for doing something stupid like pushing another ref.
@@TopCheese79 you're right. Any ref or linesman that stops a fight should be knocked a few times.
Let them fight till they're tired.
@@oriamir8994 you’d be wrong my dude. I know many refs being a ref myself that never played. I also know most refs in higher levels of playing aren’t from the zone they’re reffing in. Most people in general move far from
Where they grew up and played.
@@richardhaighway4816 yeah and those refs end up losing they’re job and the league gets sued when a serious injury happens. You’d be surprised to know even refs that ref junior and senior hockey make a very good yearly income. I myself made more reffing than I did at my career. I have a decent playing career. Hockey you can ref all year round and it pays well.
5:41 for those who don't speak swedish. The guy was banned from all areans (not just hockey rinks) for 2 years.
Loool that’s the team trav4oilers was playing for
Thank you for letting us know!
@@lheps9795 This is such a shitty team
Im from Sweden.
Lite väl hårt straff kan jag tycka
This is the most time I've ever spent listening to British guys explaining hockey. I feel enlightened.
HOW the fuck can you feel enlightened??? MONOTONE voice and comments
6:02 he was suspended from ALL sports for 2 years after that incident
He should have 10 years or more for that.
@@magnuspahlsson3531 Life.
2 years is plenty. He bruised the guys ego.
The second clip is from the league in Austria I played there 6 years. The refs there aren't the best really. I know the ref the player is attacking but as the rulebook say never attack the ref man. Fun fact I ended my career after a hit to the knee from this guy
Sorry to hear that your career ended that way!
Thanks for the great content you post here nice work.
Thank you! I was trying to figure out if the language was French or German. I’m sorry your career ended. These clips are pretty hardcore. I think I’m going to have to start getting into European hockey, as well as the NHL.
i agree a player should never hit the ref, but how in hell that the ref didnt see that stick to the face XD jeez.
Rotter is such a good player yet so dirty...
Grüße aus Vorarlberg
Not only is it a dumb-a$$ move to touch a ref, and not only is it disrespectful, but - as we've seen - tempers get hot and punching or violent pushing can ensue. And, unlike players, refs don't have that much protective gear on!
@Tuan Anh lol, even if you think about hitting a ref, or ref deserves to get hit, you are close to a psychopath, its their call. Live with it. Doing something against them wont do any better or give you a freaking medal, perhaps a very special kind of medal.
@Todesengel I hope youve grown as a person in the last 2 years, being physically assaulted for doing your job, even if its a poor job is never acceptable
@@tw1nn319 lets say youre a master home builder and you do the best job in your country. then I as a home inspector come along a fail your new build and everything I fail was in fact done right. but because I failed your new build you lose your license to build homes. still think I shouldn't be hit for doing a poor job? ruining your life by taking away your income is very much worth being punched in the face.
@@justinmiller5660 no… it’s not jack ass, you go to the courts and you deal with it the way it’s meant to be dealt. If everything WAS in-fact done correctly, it would be fairly easy to just get a new inspector to come and sign off on it. No harm done. You however would lose your inspectors license and not be able to make YOUR income. The only person that should have violence inflicted upon them is the person who committed the first act of violence. Umps are just doing their job, if an ump swings on a player, which doesn’t happen(vice-versa does), then sure, he can get hit.
@@tw1nn319 oh, see in this case the courts are on my side just like the league is on the refs side. you can go all you want but in the end they just say what the home inspector says in final. just like when you go to the league the league say the ref is right no matter what. but its nice to see nieve people still think a system build to work against them will somehow work for them if they just beg hard enough.
Good to see lots of EIHL clips in this one! Granted it's not shedding great light on the league but still coverage is coverage aha
EIHL or NHL
I'll work on getting more positive videos uploaded. This makes the EIHL look bad, but they were the easiest to find.
@@Jens95 Thanks for including some EIHL clips. It's such a shame we don't have more hockey coverage here in UK. Maybe a best of EIHL clip video? Thanks.
@@FlamRackett I could make that happen.
@@Jens95 you're the best 💙
0:30 r we gonna ignore how long the benches r
Wow yeah I didn’t even notice that wtf
They do look rather short, but I bet they are twice as wide, to accommadate the players, can't be sure though.
Cause in Europe we play on larger ice
@@ventox3080thats gay
This video was amazing 😂 great hunting for these clips Jens
I only lost 5 hours of sleep and my sanity searching for the clips 😂
3:02 "Abuse" looks more like assault from where I'm sitting
Bhahahaha
That deserves jail time.
I wish we could hear what the refs say to them when they do things like this. I'm sure, "get the fuck off the ice" is thrown around alot lol
I remember cursing at a referee in a junior game in 1981 I was given a five minute major a gross misconduct suspended for one game and it was a conversation about giving me an additional suspension
I’d love to see most obscure rules video. Like situations that happen so rarely that only the refs know what the heck they are doing. #Request
Like the Komarov visor penalty?
@@harjatalonen3467 yeah. Like that
Requested by It's The Cess. If you have a video you'd like to see please put #Request at the end of your comment.
That Chrome bucket in the second vid though... Maybe it blinded the ref so he couldn't call a penalty
1:46 those helmets are sick
4:36 for me, not sure I would say the intent was to hit the ref with the net. More a sign of protest to the call.
5:03 that’s a pissed player. He didn’t attempt to hit the official. Worth a call for unsportsmanlike, no doubt, but not conclusive enough to say he tried to strike the ref with his stick.
6:13 you can see white isn’t letting orange get up
For me as an official watching this, seems like some players don’t respect linesmen and forget they have just as much power as the guys with the floaties on. Respect your officials kids.
The title of the video was wrong and I didn't catch it in time before going to work. Some of the clips make more sense in the fact that not everyone touched the official. Some were ejected for "intimidation"
Being a ref in any sport ain't ever easy...but playing that role in hockey is easily the toughest. You don't have as much protective gear as the players, and the players themselves hold a wide range of personalities, where the worst offenders will absolutely push the boundaries while the refs simply do their jobs to keep tempers from boiling over between teams. Some calls they make can be wrong or inconclusive, but they never warrant physical assault in return.
0:08 2 minutes unsportsmanlike conduct for diving 😅
3:15 if you do this type of stunt that his teammate did which is go up and disrupt the referee from subsiding and calming down an angry and irrationally violent teammate I think you should be fined more so than the player that started it.
I dunno about being penalized *more*...there should definitely be some punishment for it, but nothing more than the aggressor.
I was at an ECHL game last weekend and it looked like a player was ready to go toe-to-toe with the linesman. He even got in the refs face as they left the ice at the end of the period still pointing and yelling at the linesman. I was surprised he didn't get any additional penalties for any of that.
How would I go about looking up the aftermath of the guy who ended up throwing fists at the ref? 3:28
Much appreciated
18 months suspension, but he never played in a competitive match afterwards
Edit: He was actually prosecuted by state attorney but the charges were dropped later
My question is did his teammate get any punishment for his role in the fracas? The two officials (the one who drew the player's ire and a secondary official) are able to get the player broken away from his intended target...then one of his teammates rips the official away from the irate player, who then redoubles his attack on the original official.
In that situation, either stay away from it or do something that speeds the conclusion (without injury to anyone)...he actively exacerbated the fight by pulling away the only person that was stopping the assault.
I love the variety of these clips
3:25 the dreams we have while sleeping prolly lookin like this
There was a player on my team that hit a ref with a puck (and he's one of the nicest refs you'll ever meet) and then later told us all that he did it on purpose. Needless to say. He's not on my team anymore.
"ok, I'll take away that first penalty but now you get a match penalty get the fuck off the ice"
the audacity to punch a ref is wild
A few of these should've been lifetime ban worthy.
11:02 - I'd say, keep the fans from the player area and we all good?
true, this idiot deserved a face punch
Truuue, yelling stupid shit at a raging, 6ft, geared up dude is usually not the smartest idea. Definitely had it coming lol
It would be good to know what the outcome of the ejections were in these cases like the guy who hit the ref with his stick around the 4min mark
3:16 number 69 need to get reprimanded to for pulling the linesman away from number 44 and by doing so allowing number 44 to completely assault the referee with punches. Both should be banned from playing ever again. In fact everyone in the blue team that tried to stop the team in white to help the referee after he get attacked then blue players come in and try to fight the team in white for trying to help the referee that is getting assaulted. Those players in blue that then started fighting the players in white that tried to help the referee they should also get banned. The players in blue should have instead tried to stop their idiotic teammate.
I also remember in a somewhat official pick up game in New York a lot of good players would come in once a week practice and scouts and some college guys to come by and check out the skaters we had someone just calling lines and dropping the puck well somebody didn’t appreciate how an offside was called got in the guys face pushed him and the guy acting as the linesman beat the piss out of the guy there’s nothing in the rulebook that says a linesman our referee cannot defend themselves
There’s no such thing as an “official pick up” game and no such thing as a “somewhat official” game. The game is either official “being governed by an association of officials” or it’s not. And unfortunately, no your referees can’t hit you back. At least not if they like their jobs.
Are we gonna sit there and pretend anyone is gonna read the rulebook before actually defending themselves? That's why we don't punish self defence.
has anyone ever gotten dropped by a ref that wasn't going to just take the abuse?
I am a hockey referee (mostly work as a linesman but also do a lot of refereeing) anyway in a game where I was the ref we had a bit of shoving going on in front of the net after the whistle and one of my linesman who is a wrestler and is like 198cm tall, came between the players to observe and cool the situation down. Then some dudes started fighting and the other guy was not going to stop even after dropping the other guy to the ice. So he went to grab him when the player tried pushing him away almost punching him and he instinctively pushed him back on to the ice or like wrestled. Got a 12 game suspension on top of a fighting major which gives you like 3-5 games depending on the severity.
Fuleå med i klippet🤣🤣 haha
2:19 the kids sitting next to the glass thats me and my old team LOL
3:03 if you want to know he is the son of the president of the club he was playing for. HKM Zvolen
Thank you for letting us know!
How long was he banned?
@@Hannoi 18 months (never played afterwards) and prosecution by state attorney (charges were dropped later)
Pushing a referee is not a good look but got to love the reaction of the player in blue at 1:38.
All other clips: player shoves an official or tackles them
EIHL: player made an aggressive move toward an official. The horrors!
wow who wants to be official in these leagues. They dont protect the officials. Im glad we do in America
0:45 - Rafael Rotter King of Vienna 🏴☠️
Probably one of the first videos from jens to see English ice hockey, shame to say it's a negative video
I think Glasgow Clan are Scottish
@@zodrob7 most of them all come under the elite league
Also Austrian
Unfortunately, it's very easy to find clips that show the bad side of hockey or the league.
on a side note something i love about european rinks is that they’re bigger. they look nicer and it’s more fun to watch. imagine mcdavid, prime kane, ovechkin on bigger ice
I’m sorry, but one of the ones said that the puck touch the netting and I don’t know if this only applies in the NHL or any other league but last time I check whenever it hits the netting above that means the puck is out of play
i love that german commentator, so passionate haha
The absolute truth of these is that this isn't hockey, and these players have no respect for the game or their own team either.
3:00 Damn. Those Polish(?) players actually ganging up on the referees. That's next level.
That last clip at the very end, the player should have actually been charged with a criminal offense. You are not allowed to touch a spectator. Period. Full Stop.
whoever did those breakdowns sure has an amazing way of making an exciting sport boring as fuck to watch.
It’s the same when the NHL does reviews for suspensions. Have you ever seen one where Brendan Shanahan is explaining a suspension? Is boring af. But it needs to be, it’s about rationally explaining the reason for the call or suspension and not about entertainment.
The reason is that they are from the Player Safety decision videos. So the goal is just to be informative :)
It's a DOPS review.
1:26 is there a rule for high-sticks in European leagues ? I know in the NHL that should have been an instant 5-minute major against the blue team, but I'm wondering if there are circumstances for why the ref didn't even blow a whistle there
In some of these clips the ref is actually physically touching the player if I were I the players skates in the moment id be asking why is the Ref touching/grabbing me
Уж не знаю почему, но всегда получаю удовлетворение от того, когда рефери получают по шапке) Обычно находясь в позиции неприкасаемых они частенько злоупотребляют своим положением)
0:27 and 1:13: The ref was directly looking at them and still didn't raise his arm, so I don't blame Rotter for being annoyed.
It is cause the blue team ist gay I hate liwest blackwings Linz
He was looking at the puck and there was one player blocking his view. No way he could have seen that.
If u Touch the ref u get a game push the ref get a game
The last incident, the guy got bit*h slapped by the player. Haha
Here in Canada you get straight up banned for shit like in the final clip
The cops would arrest the player leaving the ice for something like that here. Never touch someone who's not involved in the game.
Major wire crossing by everyone of these lads lmao
Nice to see EIHL clips, and nice to see the classiest team Cardiff Devils not abuse any refs. ;)
I'm sure if I digged deep enough I could find a clip 🤣
@@Jens95 Oh no, let's not! XD
@@heinzschmitt9661 Don't worry, I'm not that dedicated 😅
The second ref is blind 😂😂
4:08- Kicking motion to puck in order to score....no goal
First one: Wallet a little lighter? That's TWENTY GAMES in the NHL!
Someone who's been suspended 8 times for abuse of officials! 😂😂😂
Oi Manchester Storm made it into a Jens vid! Big up the UK Hockey. Shame that is wasnt the best showing of UK Hockey but I'll take it haha.
I'm sorry for making the EIHL look horrible, but they were the easiest clips to search for. I will work on more positive videos that don't make one league look like the LNAH.
@@Jens95 No no dont apologise for it, I was only joking haha.
@@Jens95 Don't feel sorry. You don't make the Elite Hockey League look bad, they do it all on their own. There is nothing elite about it.
Lol I thought Americans were classified as the angriest people..
You DON’T put your hands on an official. It’s that simple.
Good to see EIHL teams in there
the video commentator is mindblowing :DD keep your thoughts to yourself and don't ruin the video
Those are probably cribbed from footage of a different commentator (not Jens) explaining (in a quite boring narration) why a penalty is a penalty (by the book).
Does this not happen in the NHL? Or does this video/channel maybe focus on hockey outside of North America?
It does happen in the NHL, I've made 2 videos on it
4:10 number thirteen was the only player to notice the puck being out of play and he scores the game winner what class on him.
Love that the Indy Fuel opened this video!
who is that player?
@@imnotcheeeese www.eliteprospects.com/player/37765/reed-seckel
A match penalty should be a power play for the rest of the game
@4:07 can anyone tell me why that goal counted? I thought if players are physically in the box with the goalie i thought it doesn't count.
Hey Hannah???
EAT THIS!
4:10 this goal is a foot goal that never in life counts. Best regards from a licensed referee.
The goal occured before the kick, hence the celebration before the kicking motion.
@@kallevik4599 agreed. After second review I see the puck was in first and was only kicked in the goal again. So good goal. Thx for mentioning!
Thanks for the swedish ones. Alot of these were swesish and yeah.
imo whenever a ref is touched every other refferee should react like playes do when a Goalie is hit. Protect your fellow ref at all costs... In all seriousness though referees should never be attacked in any sport and under no circumstance
The ref in the first clip should be penalized for embellishment.
So should Sid Crosby.
:31 - Why doesn't the NHL have faceoff circles like that?
that first linesman getting pushed is very dramatic
Hey genius. Not only did the puck hit the net above the glass but the puck was intentionally kicked across the goal line. No goal.
It had already went in before he kicked it in
That Mraz fellow was angry!
ok are European boards extra tall or are all euro players like 5ft2
i come here to speak of the newest abuse of officials that has happened in the echl was done by shawn sydlowski of the fort wayne komets in the playoffs
International hockey players look like nascar drivers.
Players hearing they've been drafted #Request
Superstars first goals (Saw this requested on another video, not my idea)
Every teams best players nicest goals.
Speed goals (Any McDavid goal, Pettersson putting it into sport)
#Request
geil das auch rotter bei den caps dabei ist
That punch towards the fan reminded me of this: twitter.com/saunakaveri/status/1330255612287049734 #Request
I love how 2 of his teammates come running to his aid! I'm sure he didn't need the backup but it's still funny.
I feel bad for refs, I know they can fuck up games and plays teams but they just tryna do their job, and players get angry and hit them or something
Damn dude that zebra team keeps getting hammered!
And never seem to score
3:35 is insane
Too bad there aren't more video clips available from Minor Leagues of the 1970s. The old CHL, and IHL had scrums like this going on quite abit! Not that many of those Refs didn't deserve a push or two.
There's a bunch of IHL clips, but the only downside is that the quality is not so great.
I know it doesn’t really show in the video but a lot in the nhl they’ll take a rather calm player that has the penalty and the refs will just fully mangle them and grab and shove them bc they know they won’t be shoved back and in that case they should probably be shoved or sucker punched back
I hope nhl doesn't go full ads like these leagues, so tacky
Angry goalies getting pulled or goalies reactions to getting pulled #Request
You need to remember, that if a goalie leaves his crease to either, join or start a fight,
that goalie should receive an automatic game misconduct penalty. However, many
Referees don’t call them that way. Also, where and when, does the “ third man in”
rule apply?
Refs needs to be out of the game . They decided the outcome almost every game
Linesmen need a handheld taser.
4:02 is the team my dad played for cool to see them on this channel ( the scoring team )
alternate title: try not to laugh challenge
Refs need to learn when to get their hands off of people though. There’s a point where you don’t need to keep making contact anymore.
There is a reason most of these clips are from less than professional leagues. This kind of behavior would never be tolerated in the NHL. Their career would be over in a heartbeat. None of these guys could hack it in the big leagues.
It does happen though. It is rare, though.
A lot of time, it's the complete disrespect and utter loss of rational thought that gets directed at other players.
Hockey I just full of angry meatheads with sticks and anger issues.