I am a worship leader of a church plant and numerous people have mentioned to me the value of multitracks and playback however I haven't yet sat down to do my research until now. Thanks for sharing this video and your experiences; it was helpful to see the interface and how you use it on a Sunday. God Bless!
So what I do for the lighting cues is I have two different types of cues. I have scene changes that cover color settings sent from propresenter. And then I have intensity and eye candy settings coming from playback. So the color changes happen from pro7 but whether they’re moving, blinking, fading, or just different intensities is all controlled from playback. I used to be a hardcore ableton user and I’ve switched wholeheartedly to playback. When it’s combined with ChartBuilder and the propresenter integrations I spend a fraction of the time doing the same amount of work that used to take me sooooooo much longer.
We’ve loved using playback! For starting a pad during the sermon, I’ve created a macro in propresenter that sends a midi note to Playback to start the pad. We have a streamdeck that pushes that macro, but it could be done directly through propresenter as well.
2:02 Why don’t you like to use the iPad? I have an old MacBook Pro (2015) and a new iPad Pro (latest generation) would it be ok to use the iPad Pro for this? I just don’t have a lot of faith in my MacBook Pro 😅
I would like to see a time code track that I can send out to tech. All of our automated light cues run off of a time code. It seems a really simple addition that could be pretty universally applicable regardless of lighting software. Just a timeline I can sync my cues in the light software to.
I am REALLY struggling with choosing to start the track journey at my church with Prime from Loop Community or Playback from Multitracks. I know you did a comparison video 4 years ago, but I feel like both applications have evolved quite a bit since then. Would it be possible to produce an updated comparison video to aid in this decision that I feel like a lot of us face? Thanks for all you do!!
Can you talk more about number charts! What do you do if you want to do. Specific arrangement? Do you have a special software for making charts from scratch that you’d recommend? Thanks for what you do! Such a great resource!
We switched to playback on Mac last year a day after we came from experience conference and have not gone back to ableton since then. Multitracks was there and I spoke to them about the frustration with ableton it was awesome to hear about the frustration Hillsong was going through because it was the same frustration we was having week in and week out. One big thing about ableton that was frustrating was that we have three different services one being English, Spanish and our youth, half of my week was programming ableton since the switch to playback it takes me one day to program three different services. I highly recommend playback. I only do wish that for people using Dante that we have more output options only having 8 channels kinda sucks.
Hi Stephen, I use up to 16 stereo outputs to my soundboard via Dante, which is 32 outputs total. Have you checked to see if you need to update Playback?
We use playback for click and tracks. I mix them with the playback mixer to blend with our band. Don't use the pad feature anymore because we have a regular keyboard player who does our song transitions. Since we use Proclaim, I'm not sure there is any integration with Playback and Proclaim so we don't use it for auto slides.
How did you tie your different mac devices together for the midi? We have a Mac mini running lightkey, a Mac book pro running ProPresenter and then I run Playback from a iPad mini on the stage. I'm not sure how to connect the 3 devices... Bluetooth? That seems unreliable. 😕 Is there a hardwire way? Or would Bluetooth be best since we are running playback from the stage?
Where in Florida have you been leading Jake? I’m a vocalist for Radiant Church in the Tampa area. I was also just in CO a few weeks for the first time. Beautiful place!
I'm so torn on this. We've really liked how user friendly Playback is. But we've really missed the lack of control over individual tracks. There's also a pretty significant difference in sound quality that's been a bummer.
@@ToddHowardBethesda Yep. There's a noticeable quality difference going from Ableton to Playback. I haven't verified this, but just based on how quickly files download in Playback, I don't believe it's using wav files.
@@matthewsnyder8746 the files sound great, actually! I’ve been a big Ableton user for years and MultiTracks uses the highest conversion of sound quality in the Playback app. This goes the same for Key Changes.
Is there a smaller rental than 16 credits a month? I’m in a similar once in a while I lead and like the idea of using rentals and playback but don’t need all 16
So the multitracks clicks are tonally all over the map. The beauty of something like abelton is that you can make the click sound the same song to song. Is that possible in Playback?
@@daveyjones03 This is super helpful. I have found that the tonality of the click matters to the players. And when it's not the same...the temperature rises. Good to know as we process this.
hey guys! We are using playback on an iPad - sending automation to a MacBook pro for lyric on pro presenter. We use lightkey on a second MacBook pro. Can we send midi signal to 2 devices? or do we need to have lightkey and pro presenter on one device?
You can send midi to multiple devices from Playback. You just need to configure midi out in Playback and setup the audio midi app on the macs for multiple midi sessions.
Hi Ryan, we are a small church consisting of 4-5 musicians. Currently, we are used to play without those setup (multitracks and in ears). Since i was following you and this caught up my attention, i wanted to introduce multitracks and iem to the church. My question is, can you make a step by step video on how to use and how to connect it in live setting? Currently, we have the ipad, a stage monitor for all of us and an analogue yamaha mixer. I need to know what is the best and cheap options out there in terms of wired iem. How to connect them and how to set it up from the ipad that what we will hear is only the clicks and other sounds that can produce by multitracks. Like what is really needed in terms of hardware aside from the ipad. I hope you see this comment :) God bless you more
Yes it does. There is a busses tab and you can set it up in there. I’m sending individual tracks using our Waves soundgrid card back to front of house so all I need is a network cable out of our Mac.
@@tonylancer7367 so much effort and money to trigger and copy other peoples pre recorded worship. Why not take some time to teach people how to play those instruments or just play a more simple set up? I’ll take a passionate worshiper with an acoustic guitar any day over all the triggering and programming any day @churchfront
@@hworshipInstrumentals You need to teach someone dedicated to learning and that takes time, effort and in other cases money. Many answers for the second statement honestly, depends on who is answering.
@@hworshipInstrumentals you can teach anyone with basic knowledge of computers how to run tracks within a few hours. Teaching someone to play said instrument from scratch? I hope you have a few years to spare to get them to barely mediocre level. You underestimate the level of commitment and time it takes to play an instrument at a professional level. Key word PROFESSIONAL.
Love the simplicity of Playback. We automate all of our lyrics and lighting with it. So easy!
I am a worship leader of a church plant and numerous people have mentioned to me the value of multitracks and playback however I haven't yet sat down to do my research until now. Thanks for sharing this video and your experiences; it was helpful to see the interface and how you use it on a Sunday. God Bless!
Playback has saved me so much time as far as administrative work goes. It’s incredible.
We love how easy and accessible playback is and the simplicity it offers
Can you explain more about the the connectivity from laptop to house and how you ran the outputs. I'd like to recreate this same setup.
So what I do for the lighting cues is I have two different types of cues. I have scene changes that cover color settings sent from propresenter. And then I have intensity and eye candy settings coming from playback. So the color changes happen from pro7 but whether they’re moving, blinking, fading, or just different intensities is all controlled from playback. I used to be a hardcore ableton user and I’ve switched wholeheartedly to playback. When it’s combined with ChartBuilder and the propresenter integrations I spend a fraction of the time doing the same amount of work that used to take me sooooooo much longer.
We’ve loved using playback!
For starting a pad during the sermon, I’ve created a macro in propresenter that sends a midi note to Playback to start the pad. We have a streamdeck that pushes that macro, but it could be done directly through propresenter as well.
Hi! Can you also share the video of that worship session what you did with this setup?
2:02 Why don’t you like to use the iPad? I have an old MacBook Pro (2015) and a new iPad Pro (latest generation) would it be ok to use the iPad Pro for this? I just don’t have a lot of faith in my MacBook Pro 😅
Never thought I'd see the day! Great vid Jake
I would like to see a time code track that I can send out to tech. All of our automated light cues run off of a time code. It seems a really simple addition that could be pretty universally applicable regardless of lighting software. Just a timeline I can sync my cues in the light software to.
I am REALLY struggling with choosing to start the track journey at my church with Prime from Loop Community or Playback from Multitracks. I know you did a comparison video 4 years ago, but I feel like both applications have evolved quite a bit since then. Would it be possible to produce an updated comparison video to aid in this decision that I feel like a lot of us face? Thanks for all you do!!
I would choose multitracks now
@@Churchfront Ok. Are there any specific reasons why? More functionality? Better ecosystem? Better UI?
@@joshuabellinger267 all of the above
Go with playback
I have that L.R. Baggs accoustic guitar eq/tuner. Its been a great addition to my rig.
Can you talk more about number charts! What do you do if you want to do. Specific arrangement? Do you have a special software for making charts from scratch that you’d recommend? Thanks for what you do! Such a great resource!
We switched to playback on Mac last year a day after we came from experience conference and have not gone back to ableton since then. Multitracks was there and I spoke to them about the frustration with ableton it was awesome to hear about the frustration Hillsong was going through because it was the same frustration we was having week in and week out. One big thing about ableton that was frustrating was that we have three different services one being English, Spanish and our youth, half of my week was programming ableton since the switch to playback it takes me one day to program three different services. I highly recommend playback. I only do wish that for people using Dante that we have more output options only having 8 channels kinda sucks.
Hi Stephen, I use up to 16 stereo outputs to my soundboard via Dante, which is 32 outputs total. Have you checked to see if you need to update Playback?
@@daveyjones03 I may have to update playback then i been using it since the beta release last year
We use playback for click and tracks. I mix them with the playback mixer to blend with our band. Don't use the pad feature anymore because we have a regular keyboard player who does our song transitions. Since we use Proclaim, I'm not sure there is any integration with Playback and Proclaim so we don't use it for auto slides.
Probably will do this route when we have the cheddar 🧀
For now it's manually recording tracks and running all of it through a daw! 😁
How did you tie your different mac devices together for the midi? We have a Mac mini running lightkey, a Mac book pro running ProPresenter and then I run Playback from a iPad mini on the stage. I'm not sure how to connect the 3 devices... Bluetooth? That seems unreliable. 😕 Is there a hardwire way? Or would Bluetooth be best since we are running playback from the stage?
Do you connect ProPresenter to Playback via Dante or over WiFi?
Does connection through Dante network also send midi out cues? So if my computer is in the same network as Dante it will also be able to send midi?
How did you send midi from your place on stage to the computer running Pro Presenter?
We use playback. Church of 5k over three campuses. Works great!
Where in Florida have you been leading Jake? I’m a vocalist for Radiant Church in the Tampa area. I was also just in CO a few weeks for the first time. Beautiful place!
I'm so torn on this. We've really liked how user friendly Playback is. But we've really missed the lack of control over individual tracks. There's also a pretty significant difference in sound quality that's been a bummer.
You mean playback sounds worse? I thought the files were wav files.
@@ToddHowardBethesda Yep. There's a noticeable quality difference going from Ableton to Playback. I haven't verified this, but just based on how quickly files download in Playback, I don't believe it's using wav files.
@@matthewsnyder8746 the files sound great, actually! I’ve been a big Ableton user for years and MultiTracks uses the highest conversion of sound quality in the Playback app. This goes the same for Key Changes.
@@daveyjones03 I wish that was the case. But I've done extensive A/B testing on multiple PAs and Ableton always sounds better
How do you connect a ethernet instead of automating over wifi?
If you’re a guest worship leader, you supply the tracks, and run pro presenter and lighting? Is this the norm?
Do you need cloud pro in addition to playback premium in order to automate slides and lights? We use PC and Song Select for planning and charts.
What Subscriptions does this set up require? Multitracks has so many a la cart options it's hard to tell.
Hey Spencer! I can help. Send me your email and I can email you!
Love playback. It’s easy for my team to run it. My dad that’s in his 50’s can control it from the drum cage.
Can you change the keys of multitracks by chance?
Is there a smaller rental than 16 credits a month? I’m in a similar once in a while I lead and like the idea of using rentals and playback but don’t need all 16
So the multitracks clicks are tonally all over the map. The beauty of something like abelton is that you can make the click sound the same song to song. Is that possible in Playback?
Playback uses a consistent click across all of the songs. You can choose one of the built-in clicks or even upload your own!
Yes it is
@@daveyjones03 This is super helpful. I have found that the tonality of the click matters to the players. And when it's not the same...the temperature rises. Good to know as we process this.
Where you at in Florida when your hear ?
Looptimus-controlled Playback - and loopcommunity rolls their eyes..... :)
Can’t we all just get a long lol.
This video is awesome Thanks so much!
Slayed it dude!!
Could I use this with Proclaim for lyrics?
What interface are you running for this?
Was the midi communication between computers wireless? Or what interface did you use?
wireless built-in mac app
Where can I get the looptimus 4 the tracks
hey guys! We are using playback on an iPad - sending automation to a MacBook pro for lyric on pro presenter. We use lightkey on a second MacBook pro. Can we send midi signal to 2 devices? or do we need to have lightkey and pro presenter on one device?
You can send midi to multiple devices from Playback. You just need to configure midi out in Playback and setup the audio midi app on the macs for multiple midi sessions.
Man. I wanted to hear it
Hi Ryan, we are a small church consisting of 4-5 musicians. Currently, we are used to play without those setup (multitracks and in ears). Since i was following you and this caught up my attention, i wanted to introduce multitracks and iem to the church. My question is, can you make a step by step video on how to use and how to connect it in live setting?
Currently, we have the ipad, a stage monitor for all of us and an analogue yamaha mixer.
I need to know what is the best and cheap options out there in terms of wired iem. How to connect them and how to set it up from the ipad that what we will hear is only the clicks and other sounds that can produce by multitracks. Like what is really needed in terms of hardware aside from the ipad.
I hope you see this comment :) God bless you more
In ears totally changed the game, better sound and precision
I still have tempo issues with playback along with transitions. Prime is just better at that to me.
My biggest gripe is the fact you can't cut out parts of tracks. Sometimes I only want a percussion track for part of the song and not the whole thing.
It's a bit of a pain but you could put multiple copies of the same song (full tracks, perc only, etc) in the set list and set them to autolink.
@@kylethompson2873 Good idea. I never thought of that
Jake, does this app allow for separate outs for click, cues, and stereo tracks, like Ableton does?
Yes it does. There is a busses tab and you can set it up in there. I’m sending individual tracks using our Waves soundgrid card back to front of house so all I need is a network cable out of our Mac.
You can also use Dante
😅I love start up bands
It’s so dumb that PC’s can’t get playback
Not a vagabond🤣
Why not just play what you have with the team in house and worship?
What do you mean?
@@tonylancer7367 so much effort and money to trigger and copy other peoples pre recorded worship. Why not take some time to teach people how to play those instruments or just play a more simple set up? I’ll take a passionate worshiper with an acoustic guitar any day over all the triggering and programming any day @churchfront
@@hworshipInstrumentals You need to teach someone dedicated to learning and that takes time, effort and in other cases money.
Many answers for the second statement honestly, depends on who is answering.
@@tonylancer7367 it takes just as much time and money to teach someone and to set up tracks clicks and triggers
@@hworshipInstrumentals you can teach anyone with basic knowledge of computers how to run tracks within a few hours. Teaching someone to play said instrument from scratch? I hope you have a few years to spare to get them to barely mediocre level. You underestimate the level of commitment and time it takes to play an instrument at a professional level. Key word PROFESSIONAL.
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Wow. I went to read reviews on what i believe is the app, and there horrible!