Do you agree with us? They didn't all look the same and there were more variants than just the segmentata early imperial one! WE WANT JUSTICE FOR ROME!
"How did the Rome only use 1 type of armor for more than 2000 years?" Holywood : Yes Edit: Guys I was misstyping "Rome" to "Roman Empire, sorry for the misunderstanding.
I mean, they have a certain type of armour that they used for a very long time, not the bloody segmented one though. It was a type of helmet rather, and there is the chainmail which continually evolved and outlasted the shortlived but iconic segmentata.
It's even worse, sometimes they use entirely fictional armours, sometimes those fictional armours aren't even shown in the period they were *allegedly* used in, like with HBO's vikings where in one of the promo shots for a new season we see byzantine officers dressed in leather musculata. I guarantee they know how ridiculous this is, but they don't expect their viewer base to know they're dealing with the remaining eastern half of the Empire unless they give them leather muscle armour, and those silly parade helmets that someone saw on Trajan's column (on very flamboyantly dressed praetorians who's kit is all wrong anyways) and decided that every Roman officer must have worn that exact helmet.
Yeah, it’s as if the Roman Empire started out as a few Greek city states in what became modern day Italy that grew together and over time broke away from what we would call Greece. Some even argue that Rome is simply a continuation of Greece as Greek city states assimilated into Rome in the same way that hundreds of years prior the assimilated into the Hellenic League or the Acheans before that.
I know it's a joke referencing Skyrim but Triarii wasn't a place it was the 3rd element of Manipular Legions of Rome, they were elite armoured spearmen comprised of veterans.
@@fallenhero4550yeah this vid got it wrong, triari was spear phalanx formation all thr time umlike principes and hastati who used swords after punic war.
Or, you know, the Lorica Hamata, late Republic-early Prinicpate. Pretty big chunk missing there. You know, what was worn through the Gallic wars, the Civil Wars, most of Augustus's reign.
"And with time, he would grow into a hero, renound for his bravery. but all long journeys, start with the basics" *paneramic shot fades into first or third person camera angle* *tutorial pop-up*
Understandable mistake. With most longer swords being drawn that way you might not even consider to check if they might historically draw on the right side 😅
Similar issue with revolvers in the Wild West. The guns weren't supposed to be cross drawn, rather they had the handles facing forward because early revolvers often had long barrels and you can use a twisting motion to draw them out without hitching up your arm to clear the holster.
Haven't seen a back drawn sword in quite a while even in fantasy since after say... 2010-2014, much less in any Roman media. They get the armor wrong but never usually swords (evennif they slice rather than stab in action)@ArmadilloArmada
@@christiandemaria9682 well normal people didn't wear well made clothes or colored clothes, those were reserved for the people higher in society, like nobles, clergy, Royals, soldiers or businessmen and entrepreneurs.
Yea, but I prefer the mid-late republican ones (before Marian Reform), when it was less homogenous (i.e. not a boring mass of men cladded in the same iron uniform). It was the time when they begin to standardize their equipment, but individual soldiers often wear something to show their character and personality (since they were citizen-soldiers, who often bring their own equipment, instead of just bunch of people wearing mass-produced equipment).
The first Rome Total War game actually opened my eyes to the different armour and weapons of the Romans through different ages. Up until that point I had no idea that chain mail was something that the Romans were using.
Europa Barbarorum for the original Rome Total War, and Europa Barbarorum 2 for Medieval 2 Total War are still a joy to play, as they are mods focusing on historical accuracy while giving you many more options in factions and units.
And each time it was changed it was because of a war and they adapted armour and weapons. Each change tells a story or is because of history. Marius changed a lot. Phalanx also changed after 1 war.
Modern Italians have no relation to the Roman Empire. They all died in the plagues. By 700 A.D., Rome was quasi uninhabited. All the people that were there, were a few Germanic tribes. Romans today are simply descendant from those who settled Rome in the 11th century onwards.
@@deviousballstickler821 Byzantium was just a historical nickname given to them by historians.They were not even aware of the name Byzantium while the eastern Rome was still standing. no matter how eastern Rome was destroyed, as Anatolian Turks, we carry their phenotypes and we are aware of their history.
People often forget that some people from greece came to italy and Rome took alot of inspections from the greek they stole alot of pillars and a handful of things
The hoplite is not accurate towards the Regal period, though. In Dionysius' references to the regal "phalanx", he is likely using the word phalanx as a general term for a standard infantry unit. Given the environment of Italy, and the irregularity of Italian warfare of this time period, it's reasonable to assume the Latins used a much shorter spear than the standard 12-14 cubit Greek sarissa. The most common Latin shield of the regal period would have looked like a cross between the scutum and a thyreos, and the "standard" armor would have been made with boiled leather unlike the linen armor used by Greek lower-class levies. (linen clothing and linen armor was ubiquitous across Indo-European cultures, but the Latins are unique in that they used mostly wool and boiled leather. There's no direct evidence of the Latins using linen armor until later on in the imperial era, where you have statues depicting emperors in Greek-style linen armor, and the early A.D.s when the legions were using a padded linen jacket under chainmail. The Etruscans, about a century after the end of the regal Latin period, were certainly using linen armor, that may have been influenced by Magna Graecia. It's likely that the Latins may have sparingly used it as well, but linen armor was cheap, wealthy Latins would have used boiled leather and metal, and the lower class Latins would not have been able to afford linen imports. There's maybe a small niche in Latin class III levies who may have used linen armor once in a blue moon.) The wealthiest class of Latins would have used a rounded shield similar to the Greek shield depicted in the video, but in conjunction with metallic armor, not linen. The helmet in this video is not at all like anything the Latins would have ever used. The majority of latin levies would have used headgears roughly similar in appearance to the negau-type helmet. The wealthiest Latins, the ones with the rounded shields, may have used full-protective helmets similar to what the the Etruscans were wearing as well. You have to keep in mind that ancient soldiers were rarely ever uniformed, and the regal latins were even more irregular than that.
Yup, he kept everything and everyone else in line, imagine if you told your boss about shipments not getting in on time, he says “gotcha Iam on it” and the next thing you see is that same boss beating folk responsible with a nasty loooking stick while yelling at them.
Wow! It’s something I learned last night, it’s called a vine staff. It was used to demonstrate the Centurion’s authority and like the previous commenter notes, to whack a legionary who stepped out of line.
The imperial era legions used multiple types of armors - chainmail, scale, and segmented armor alike. The Romans even later started adopting lamellar armor.
Why not 1204 (the sack of Constantinople by the crusaders, and the start of the new "Latin" Empire)? If the Nicaeans (who conquered Constantinople from the Franks and "restored" the Eastern Roman Empire) can be considered as the legit continuation of the Roman state, why don't we consider the Usman/Ottoman as legit continuation as well? After all they (the Ottomans) also claim the Roman title. If you think Orthodox Christianity as the prerequisite, then Muscovy's/Russian claim as the 3rd Rome should be valid. Therefore I argue that Roman Empire lasted till 1917. IMO the definitive "Roman empire" is the one in Italy, with Italian culture. It fell in 476 AD (or in 480 AD when the rump Roman state finally annexed into Odoacer's Germanic "Italian kingdom"). IMO Eastern Roman Empire was *a* Roman Empire, but *NOT* THE Roman Empire, just like Latin Empire, Holy Roman Empire, Seljuk (Rum/Roman) Empire, Ottoman Empire, and Russian Empire. They are all a Roman empire, but NOT the Roman empire.
@@CaiusCosades44 Well Eastern Roman fell in 1453,with the mark of fall of constantinople. Constantinople or Nova Roma/new rome was named by Constantine The Great which also a roman Emperor at 330 AD. It got enough proves to be considered as the legitimate continuation of the Roman Empire (after western Roman Empire falls)
One of my favorite sayings of Ancient Rome “It’s come down to the Triarii” The Triarii were the final line of older experienced troops and if they were fighting things had gotten really bad.
Later the Republic became a juggernaut the Triarii sometimes petitioned commanders to get sent in so they could actually win some glory before the battle was won.
Early republician hastai, princepii, and triarii were spearmen, hoplite (in janked way) before they encountered the samnites of Latium and magna gracia. Then they adopted and utilized the Samnites as a forward line in front of the Roman hasati. Since the swordsmen at the time were able to weaken the other italian tribes at the time. Then through cultural exchange, the samnites and Roman Hasati kinda became one. (Which is why the samnites were so pissed by the time right before Julius Caesar. The samnites literally fought as romans for nearly 300 years and still didnt have full rights in the Roman Empire until 70s bc.)
PS triarii would also have avoided using their non gladius swords and favored their spears as vestiages of their past and they mainly wealthy citizens who were too stuck up to change
Anything after Gladiator is already late Empire, yet the legionaries still seem to be pulled from 400 years prior, right after the Gracii Bros Commie Affairs
@@jamescai3490 It’s just basic visual shorthand. The archetypal armour and weaponry is what 99% of people associate with a powerful and dominant Roman Empire, which is exactly what they’re portraying.
@@dabo5078not only that, but it was enough for the type of war they fought. They had their shields and favored the formation tactics. That plate protected the most vital torso parts. That’s cost efficient.
@@dabo5078not only that, but it was enough for the type of war they fought. They had their shields and favored the formation tactics. That plate protected the most vital torso parts. That’s cost efficient.
Only production I ever see get it "right" was HBO's Rome. They deliberately chose to dress them in correct late republic armor and helmets. The ones that hit that little sweet spot during Caesar's day after they standardized their equipment but still hadn't become the steel vest armored Chads of the empire.
Isn't it cool that historians and art and manuscripts are time machines? Archeologists would just be guessing without writers and sketchers of the ancient eras 😅
I'm sure it's probably just cheaper to make the last costume and spray paint it a vaguely metallic color, but man would it be cool to see an army of earlier Roman soldiers in a movie.
They used both sword and spear just like most hoplites did. Also makes sense you got backup. Spears can get damaged or break. That’s most cav units also got multiple weapons, or javelinmen
Небольшая вставочка. Лорика москулата это в 90% парадная броня или броня для знатных особ. В подобной броне практически не когда не вступали в бой (возможно только высшие воинские чины которые не бились в первых рядах).
Thank god for the camera man safely traveling through the different periods of the Roman Empire and bless those Roman soldiers by showing him their weapons, armor, and shields
What do you mean post civilizations? Post means after, are you saying they were after civilization? It wouldn't even make sense if you said pre civilization because they are a civilization. I think what you're looking for is the term ancient civilization.
Im gonna play devils advocate on this one, Roman EMPIRE is accurate as they show the exact/very similar red woth plate armor. However Roman REPUBLIC had a bunch of different armors and colours, but usually we are talking about the roman empire, so youre actually wrong "🤓"
I want to see a Third Samnite War movie. Such a cool period. Edit: I am fully aware that Hollywood is completely incapable of making a decent movie these days... much less one set in the early republic lol. But a man can dream right?
Well they are not. For most of the imperial period the legioins used chainmail like before. The "plate" armor (segmentata) was never the standard for most legions, many of them never recieved any of them. And he completly neglacted the Scalearmor (Squamata armor), wich where in use for the entire time of the roman history, just like the chainmail (hamata)
I think that's a kopis. Falcata was an Iberian celt sword Carthage adopted then Rome adopted. Kopis was a Greek sword Rome adopted. Romans just called them all machara. Kopis has a slighter curve, falcata more of a corner but also didn't get a great look at it and they can be pretty similar. I just assume that mid Republic (when they were fighting Carthage during which they just conquered Spain) theyre probably not as likely to have adopted the falcata as the kopis. But the fullers on it make it seem like maybe it is a falcata Both are cool as hell and I agree I'd totally love one
imagine a horror movie focusing on some regular roman soldiers in the german forests, like that one ambush of a bunch of germans and arminius jumping the soldiers, a horror movie like that with the barbarians as the monster figures
>starts pointing out silliness of Hollywood thinking everything between 753bc and 1453 AD is lorica segmentata. >follows by hyperfixating on the manipular legion before barely getting to the early imperial at the end of the clip, ignoring 1453 years of development. I know it's a yt short but come on bruh.
In all honesty though its his dates that are a bit suspect. Rome ended circa the 5th century and they were still using the Marian military reforms, aka the legionary. Their military might began several centuries after is founding of 753bc.
@@waldorfmcvitty4854 I mean, it didn't though did it? The Roman empire reconquered Italy North Africa and parts of Spain less than 80 years after the date it supposedly fell, and was still a major power in the Mediterranean littoral until the 13th century.
@@howardhoman8233 my bad dude I was being a buffoon. It was a skyrim joke… but I appreciate the quick bit of history, sounds like you know a lot about the subject 🫡🙏
Hey thank you a lot! I'm making a DnD Homebrew and I'm making Kobold Soldiers so knowing all these different soldiers and how they dress really helps me a lot
Bro completed the whole game now he is showing his inventory.
Bro unlocked all the characters and skins 💀
@@CloudxBoysyou wouldn't get it ☠️☠️☠️
Naah he's still missing the limes from the byzantines
He didn't buy the byzantine DLC Wich adds the grenadier Loadout 🌚@@Jesse_IDG
@@CloudxBoys Nobody asked you, old man.
"How did the Rome only use 1 type of armor for more than 2000 years?"
Holywood : Yes
Edit: Guys I was misstyping "Rome" to "Roman Empire, sorry for the misunderstanding.
I mean, they have a certain type of armour that they used for a very long time, not the bloody segmented one though. It was a type of helmet rather, and there is the chainmail which continually evolved and outlasted the shortlived but iconic segmentata.
Ahahah exactly!
@@erenrager6679 yes, exactly bro! Let's get them understanding this
@@LegioPrimaItalicayeah after seeing these cool and sick ass armor designs i wish we saw this more in movies and games
It's even worse, sometimes they use entirely fictional armours, sometimes those fictional armours aren't even shown in the period they were *allegedly* used in, like with HBO's vikings where in one of the promo shots for a new season we see byzantine officers dressed in leather musculata.
I guarantee they know how ridiculous this is, but they don't expect their viewer base to know they're dealing with the remaining eastern half of the Empire unless they give them leather muscle armour, and those silly parade helmets that someone saw on Trajan's column (on very flamboyantly dressed praetorians who's kit is all wrong anyways) and decided that every Roman officer must have worn that exact helmet.
Director: “I want them to look Roman”
Historian: “What type of Roman?”
Director: “I don’t follow…”
😅😅😅😅
Yes yous are lied to about vikings too and everything cause its fking entertainment not truth 😂😂😂
@@mick20075 Then why not have Teslas when doing a movie set in the 80s? Same thing, car is car. Roman is Roman. Right..?
Well rome in movies is usually depicted afyer Ceaser
@@princeCustos324 So? They didn't stick with the same sword, shield and armor for 400+ years
In 2000 years WW2 movies will have marines in desert cammo and M1 Abrams
Or even today in China most likely
"M1, M16, same difference"
Well have you ever seen patton
That sort of thing has already happened. In Patton they used American M48s built starting in 1953 as German tanks.
@@silverjohn6037Wasn't that because they only had a few historically accurate German tanks?
character select screen be like
Exactly man! ⚔️💪🏻
Lol you win
Lol true
The first one is what the game trailer shows the main character. The latter ones are the character options in the actual game.
Legionary: 10+ defense, 8+ range, 10+ speed
Hoplite: 8+ defense, 15+ range
The Early Republic one is strait up Greek. This shows how much the Greeks influenced the Romans early on.
Yeah, it’s as if the Roman Empire started out as a few Greek city states in what became modern day Italy that grew together and over time broke away from what we would call Greece. Some even argue that Rome is simply a continuation of Greece as Greek city states assimilated into Rome in the same way that hundreds of years prior the assimilated into the Hellenic League or the Acheans before that.
@@bubblesareawesome1368I can’t tell if you’re tryna be rude or informative 😂
Greeks influenced everyone
@@bubblesareawesome1368The Romans were famous for copying other culture's technology. Italians were not Greeks.
@@PoutingScout I honestly was worried about that being misinterpreted. I was trying to be jokingly informative and by no means rude.
"Do you see those guys from Triarii? They've got curved swords. Curved. Swords."
I once was a legionnaire like you ...then I took an arrow to the knee.
Imperial ba5tards...!!!
Didn't expect to come across a 12 year old meme today
I know it's a joke referencing Skyrim but Triarii wasn't a place it was the 3rd element of Manipular Legions of Rome, they were elite armoured spearmen comprised of veterans.
@@fallenhero4550yeah this vid got it wrong, triari was spear phalanx formation all thr time umlike principes and hastati who used swords after punic war.
The octopus shield with the bright blue and orange uniform is sick
Ikr the helmet is also so gorgeous
romans are showing their support for the ukrainians 2000 years before it was popular
I think its my fav out of them all.
I like the first republic
Chromatic opposites always works
Needs a part 2 tho, after the lorica segmentata.
Part 2 is coming!
@@LegioPrimaItalicagracias mein friend.
Or, you know, the Lorica Hamata, late Republic-early Prinicpate. Pretty big chunk missing there. You know, what was worn through the Gallic wars, the Civil Wars, most of Augustus's reign.
@@bryrye4545 bro used 3 languages in one phrase (very based)
Mmmm that word, lorica segmenteta
I love how the guy with the spear just hits himself in the head with it
A young Hastatus wearing Princep set, he still need to grow
"That's why you should wear a healmet." ~
H&S
That's a virging princeps.
"And with time, he would grow into a hero, renound for his bravery. but all long journeys, start with the basics"
*paneramic shot fades into first or third person camera angle*
*tutorial pop-up*
@@digge2210 werent principes just wealthier hastati?
greece: ok copy my homework but make changes so they won’t notice
rome:…
this was a good one! ah!
Ehhh tbf, Roman armour for most of its ages was actually based on the celtic type of armour, and they developed it on their own.
@@Hikaeme-od3zq yeah at the later stages yes the dudes just loved copying everyone
I think the hoplites were incorporated in the roman army after they conquered hellenic parts of the Balcanic peninsula
@@raduoltean4468 i believe you are right that’s what they did, adapted to every area they conquered
Principe first republic: me
Principe mid republic: the guy she tells me not to worry abt
Hollywood normally makes the classic mistake of putting the sword on the wrong hip and drawing them wrong
Understandable mistake. With most longer swords being drawn that way you might not even consider to check if they might historically draw on the right side 😅
Similar issue with revolvers in the Wild West. The guns weren't supposed to be cross drawn, rather they had the handles facing forward because early revolvers often had long barrels and you can use a twisting motion to draw them out without hitching up your arm to clear the holster.
@@ReasonableRadio Not an excuse this is EXTREMELY well known and literally just a quick google search will tell you.
@@WalrusWinkingchill 😂 "nO exCuSes!! uNacCePtAbLE!!!" Acting like you're a Roman legionnaire.
Haven't seen a back drawn sword in quite a while even in fantasy since after say... 2010-2014, much less in any Roman media. They get the armor wrong but never usually swords (evennif they slice rather than stab in action)@ArmadilloArmada
The wobbling you normally see in characters of video games has me weak lol
I gotta say, people wobbled before video games were invented. The video games copy that to simulate realism. You see?
Bro got the Rome Total War animations dlc for real life
😂
Real
Think you mixed up some weapons
When u think you know how they looked like.... Such clowns
"Blue roman soldiers don't exist, they can't hurt you"
Blue roman soldier:
IT MUST BE RED OR PURPLE ONLY
@@YokaiXpurple was the most expensive colour to make and was reserved for the emperor only and his praetorians
@@YokaiXeven "red", actually porpora, was really expensive, normal people and soldier were more likely to wear white or greyish wool clothes
@@christiandemaria9682 well normal people didn't wear well made clothes or colored clothes, those were reserved for the people higher in society, like nobles, clergy,
Royals, soldiers or businessmen and entrepreneurs.
If blue soldier is right then I want to be wrong
The guy bonking himself with his spear was amusing
historically accurate
And his Tolk was falling off
Spear weighted more than him
@@dasdasdasdasdas2313 Yeah I was gonna say if we saw him do it in this video, chances are it happened to a actual roman soldier
That's why they changed it to a short sword. Because you'd think a spear would be better
Everyone else: Spear, sword and shield
Centurio: BONK
⚔️🤌🏻
Do you... do you have any idea who you're talking to? Basically, kind of a big deal.
*Centurion taps a Legionaire who's gotten out of line.*
"Sup?"
Pullo! Formation then bonk.
@@WhatIsThatThingDoing"grass grow, sun shines and solder, i punish people" boink "im a force of nature"
Roman Soldier: "I'm bored with this"
- new attire unlock -
Roman Soldier: "Oh hell yeah!!"
You can't deny though, those imperial legionary uniforms look absolutely bussin
Yea, but I prefer the mid-late republican ones (before Marian Reform), when it was less homogenous (i.e. not a boring mass of men cladded in the same iron uniform).
It was the time when they begin to standardize their equipment, but individual soldiers often wear something to show their character and personality (since they were citizen-soldiers, who often bring their own equipment, instead of just bunch of people wearing mass-produced equipment).
Speak English
@@warfarenotwarfair5655he made sense though
@@MrNage "bussin" ? Speak English!
@@warfarenotwarfair5655Speak English.*
Centurio is really just walking into combat with a walking stick
That was used to beat the shit out of undisciplined legionaries
@@LegioPrimaItalicanow he is gonna discipline some uncivilized barbarians.
@@furimindusties5736 with his recently disciplined legionaries
@@erdene2476 ofcourse
@@furimindusties5736he is going to beat rhe barbarians so much that he turns them into roman soldiers
The first Rome Total War game actually opened my eyes to the different armour and weapons of the Romans through different ages. Up until that point I had no idea that chain mail was something that the Romans were using.
Europa Barbarorum for the original Rome Total War, and Europa Barbarorum 2 for Medieval 2 Total War are still a joy to play, as they are mods focusing on historical accuracy while giving you many more options in factions and units.
Devide et impera for rome 2 do it perfectly from hoplites to legionnnaries by 4 roman armies upgrades as the campaign continue
Yes, and Chainmail was actually invented by the Celts.
And each time it was changed it was because of a war and they adapted armour and weapons. Each change tells a story or is because of history. Marius changed a lot. Phalanx also changed after 1 war.
@@wallung1876 We now have archaeological evidence that the Etruscans had it earlier.
Centurio Late Republic chose caster class.
Choosing your character in a Roman RPG be like:
indeed! ahah
Honestly I wish they had a game
@@ClaymorePunter Try out expeditions rome
@@ClaymorePuntermaybe age of decadence?
@@eddyandresmartinezrodrigue7600 age of decadence is so good! my favourite writing in any game ever
The fact that Italians are really acknowledging the eastern roman empire as the roman empire is amazing
In my country, we just call them eastern roman empire cuz the only thing they have similar to the classic romans are the name
Modern Italians have no relation to the Roman Empire. They all died in the plagues. By 700 A.D., Rome was quasi uninhabited. All the people that were there, were a few Germanic tribes. Romans today are simply descendant from those who settled Rome in the 11th century onwards.
we love our fratres!
@@deviousballstickler821 Byzantium was just a historical nickname given to them by historians.They were not even aware of the name Byzantium while the eastern Rome was still standing. no matter how eastern Rome was destroyed, as Anatolian Turks, we carry their phenotypes and we are aware of their history.
how is it amazing retard it's literally in the name
Impeccable drip nonetheless
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That ancient ''made in italy'' drip.
GOD FUCKING DAMNIT CRUZ AIDER
People often forget that some people from greece came to italy and Rome took alot of inspections from the greek they stole alot of pillars and a handful of things
The hoplite is not accurate towards the Regal period, though. In Dionysius' references to the regal "phalanx", he is likely using the word phalanx as a general term for a standard infantry unit. Given the environment of Italy, and the irregularity of Italian warfare of this time period, it's reasonable to assume the Latins used a much shorter spear than the standard 12-14 cubit Greek sarissa. The most common Latin shield of the regal period would have looked like a cross between the scutum and a thyreos, and the "standard" armor would have been made with boiled leather unlike the linen armor used by Greek lower-class levies. (linen clothing and linen armor was ubiquitous across Indo-European cultures, but the Latins are unique in that they used mostly wool and boiled leather. There's no direct evidence of the Latins using linen armor until later on in the imperial era, where you have statues depicting emperors in Greek-style linen armor, and the early A.D.s when the legions were using a padded linen jacket under chainmail. The Etruscans, about a century after the end of the regal Latin period, were certainly using linen armor, that may have been influenced by Magna Graecia. It's likely that the Latins may have sparingly used it as well, but linen armor was cheap, wealthy Latins would have used boiled leather and metal, and the lower class Latins would not have been able to afford linen imports. There's maybe a small niche in Latin class III levies who may have used linen armor once in a blue moon.) The wealthiest class of Latins would have used a rounded shield similar to the Greek shield depicted in the video, but in conjunction with metallic armor, not linen. The helmet in this video is not at all like anything the Latins would have ever used. The majority of latin levies would have used headgears roughly similar in appearance to the negau-type helmet. The wealthiest Latins, the ones with the rounded shields, may have used full-protective helmets similar to what the the Etruscans were wearing as well. You have to keep in mind that ancient soldiers were rarely ever uniformed, and the regal latins were even more irregular than that.
I wish we could see some of the armor you have on display for the Late Empire and Byzantine eras.
O Império do Oriente continua sendo Romano mesmo falando Grego & Latim
E depois fim adotando o Grego como língua Oficial.
Yeah late empire had some really awesome armor, personally my favorite
Centurio just wacks you with a stick
Yup, he kept everything and everyone else in line, imagine if you told your boss about shipments not getting in on time, he says “gotcha Iam on it” and the next thing you see is that same boss beating folk responsible with a nasty loooking stick while yelling at them.
Wow! It’s something I learned last night, it’s called a vine staff. It was used to demonstrate the Centurion’s authority and like the previous commenter notes, to whack a legionary who stepped out of line.
It's to make sure you're not nodding off while on guard duty.
Later, in battle...
Legionary with sword: *Slash!* *Slash!*
Legionary with spear: *Thrust!* *Thrust!*
Centurio: HIT WITH STICK! HIT WITH STICK!
There’s something really beautiful about the more archaic looking early armours
true ! follow us to see more armors and factions, soon coming!
Early and Late armors were really something special. Guess it's because we barely see them in pop culture.
Hellenic I would say
Just a gigachad refusing to use 476 as the end of Rome 🗿
Justice for the East!
Yeah!
I mean, the Empire's legionaries looked the most epic.
Tbh I like the Hastatus soldiers. They look a bit star warsy with that emblem, idk
Triarii had that trip tho
@Jasinglismen Agreed
The imperial era legions used multiple types of armors - chainmail, scale, and segmented armor alike. The Romans even later started adopting lamellar armor.
The empire’s legionaries didn’t stay that way either that’s just the early imperial era
Someone send this to Metatron he is gonna love this I think.
Dumb me thought that's he's in the short
He's gonna hate those stupid wristbands though
Mad respect for putting 1453 as the end of the Roman Empire.
Why not 1204 (the sack of Constantinople by the crusaders, and the start of the new "Latin" Empire)?
If the Nicaeans (who conquered Constantinople from the Franks and "restored" the Eastern Roman Empire) can be considered as the legit continuation of the Roman state, why don't we consider the Usman/Ottoman as legit continuation as well?
After all they (the Ottomans) also claim the Roman title.
If you think Orthodox Christianity as the prerequisite, then Muscovy's/Russian claim as the 3rd Rome should be valid. Therefore I argue that Roman Empire lasted till 1917.
IMO the definitive "Roman empire" is the one in Italy, with Italian culture. It fell in 476 AD (or in 480 AD when the rump Roman state finally annexed into Odoacer's Germanic "Italian kingdom").
IMO Eastern Roman Empire was *a* Roman Empire, but *NOT* THE Roman Empire, just like Latin Empire, Holy Roman Empire, Seljuk (Rum/Roman) Empire, Ottoman Empire, and Russian Empire. They are all a Roman empire, but NOT the Roman empire.
As it should be 😂🎉
i mean thats year of the fall of eastern roman empire
@@andravideostation6101yes
@@CaiusCosades44 Well Eastern Roman fell in 1453,with the mark of fall of constantinople. Constantinople or Nova Roma/new rome was named by Constantine The Great which also a roman Emperor at 330 AD. It got enough proves to be considered as the legitimate continuation of the Roman Empire (after western Roman Empire falls)
"choose your fighter" is crazy
Those shields are so fucking dope, I envy your collection
One of my favorite sayings of Ancient Rome “It’s come down to the Triarii” The Triarii were the final line of older experienced troops and if they were fighting things had gotten really bad.
In some parts of Italy it's still used 😅
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Later the Republic became a juggernaut the Triarii sometimes petitioned commanders to get sent in so they could actually win some glory before the battle was won.
Call in the Triarii!!
It sounds like a Roman version of the winged hussars
I mean, most movies/ tv shows about Rome aren’t set during the Republic period, much less the early monarchy...
Early republician hastai, princepii, and triarii were spearmen, hoplite (in janked way) before they encountered the samnites of Latium and magna gracia. Then they adopted and utilized the Samnites as a forward line in front of the Roman hasati. Since the swordsmen at the time were able to weaken the other italian tribes at the time. Then through cultural exchange, the samnites and Roman Hasati kinda became one. (Which is why the samnites were so pissed by the time right before Julius Caesar. The samnites literally fought as romans for nearly 300 years and still didnt have full rights in the Roman Empire until 70s bc.)
PS triarii would also have avoided using their non gladius swords and favored their spears as vestiages of their past and they mainly wealthy citizens who were too stuck up to change
A good novel series of republic era roman military is "Forgotten Heroes of Rome" by Jerry Autieri. Very good series.
Social wars?
@@rustomkanishka social wars
Allowing foreigners into Rome destroyed it .
To be fair, most Hollywood films take place during imperial Rome
Had to scroll too far to see this. I was thinking like, how many Hollywood films even cover the earlier periods? Its not many.
If they're covering the republic, the plot usually revolves around the city. Toga time!
True, still they were variations in the armours , a lot of them even during the Empire…
movies about the punic wars are republic though
Even in the Principate, the legionaries did not look the same.
The one with the face armor was waiting for that his whole life 😂
Early empire/late republic is generally the most thought about era of Rome, though
Anything after Gladiator is already late Empire, yet the legionaries still seem to be pulled from 400 years prior, right after the Gracii Bros Commie Affairs
Another reason I like history is the beautiful details that Hollywood can't seem to BOTHER noticing...
It’s almost like they need to balance historical accuracy with the story. Kinda like the Romans did.
@@jr5925 How does making the armor and gear look good (accurate) hurt the story?
this one is wrong too
@@jr5925 theyre just lazy. details like this dont meaningfully impact the story lol
@@jamescai3490 It’s just basic visual shorthand. The archetypal armour and weaponry is what 99% of people associate with a powerful and dominant Roman Empire, which is exactly what they’re portraying.
Bro is choosing his character💀
Thank you for doing this. Early Roman armor is fascinating to look at. It's a shame we don't see more historical variety in media.
Hey, does anyone know what music is this?
@rosanegroThis definitely sounds like a different version of Warhawk. A bit slower
Did you find out what the track is?
hastatus mid republic's chest piece made me laugh. it looks like his mum made it
I'm sure you can buy a plate carrier like that today. Or have your mom sew one.
Yep they were quite crude peice of bronze since hastati were quite poor.
His mum? No, probably his grandfather😂 follow us to see more content, soon we release more factions⚔️💪🏻
@@dabo5078not only that, but it was enough for the type of war they fought. They had their shields and favored the formation tactics. That plate protected the most vital torso parts. That’s cost efficient.
@@dabo5078not only that, but it was enough for the type of war they fought. They had their shields and favored the formation tactics. That plate protected the most vital torso parts. That’s cost efficient.
That Hastatus aesthetics of the first republic is just so slick.. 😮.. Now we need more from early empire to mid and late empire.
ya, that was the best looking out of the pre-empire legionnaires
Only production I ever see get it "right" was HBO's Rome. They deliberately chose to dress them in correct late republic armor and helmets. The ones that hit that little sweet spot during Caesar's day after they standardized their equipment but still hadn't become the steel vest armored Chads of the empire.
Skinny guy legitimately looked scared.. Hit himself with the spear, too.
Believe it or not, that's a girl (or close enough by Roman standards any way)
That's why soldiers wear helmets remember?
Thats chandler
@@crazyfootballshort1408 she's beautiful
He's just the camp entertainment, he's not actually going into battle
Can we give a round of applaud to this guy for going back in time so he could show us what roman soldiers wore throughout the years
Isn't it cool that historians and art and manuscripts are time machines?
Archeologists would just be guessing without writers and sketchers of the ancient eras 😅
I'm sure it's probably just cheaper to make the last costume and spray paint it a vaguely metallic color, but man would it be cool to see an army of earlier Roman soldiers in a movie.
Helmet, shield, sword, spear,club, chest plate, sandals, skirt, is all the same to me.
Dude is moving like total war npc model.
Yeah💪🏻⚔️
That’s what I was thinking 😭
only inaccuracy is him not committing photosynthesis and biting the sunlight
@@LegioPrimaItalica
What size is the Roman shield? How tall is the shield?
Anybody knows the song name?
Warhawk from Kevin Graham
Triarii should be using a spear, GOT IM
They also could use swords! 💪🏻⚔️
They used both sword and spear just like most hoplites did. Also makes sense you got backup. Spears can get damaged or break. That’s most cav units also got multiple weapons, or javelinmen
@@xSoulhunterDKxthey were spearmen, end of.
@@yungbludboi never said they werent lmao
@@LegioPrimaItalicaEarly Republic Triarii would have a spear as tall and half again a man, or 7-8 feet just like the Hoplite.
The Romans do have drip ngl
During the time of Flavius Aeitus (that is during the Hunnic invasion), the Romans used trousers.
The smug look on the Hastatus was probably accurate too
“Tf you gonna do about it, nerd?”
"Oh, I love learning Roman history!"
"Which one?"
Me too
Byzantine Empire was a true successor to rome
@@bobsonpl2068I mean they literally were called Eastern Rome the entire time until modern historians made up a new name
Небольшая вставочка. Лорика москулата это в 90% парадная броня или броня для знатных особ. В подобной броне практически не когда не вступали в бой (возможно только высшие воинские чины которые не бились в первых рядах).
Their greek early style looks cooler in some ways despite not being so iconic
Nah it looks outdated and lame compared to the late republic and early empire times.
@@abstractfactory8068 See Byzantine and Varangian uniforms for the more 'updated' look.
Thank god for the camera man safely traveling through the different periods of the Roman Empire and bless those Roman soldiers by showing him their weapons, armor, and shields
outdated joke
I love that post civilizations used such bright and immaculate colors, absolutely gorgeous uniforms.
What do you mean post civilizations?
Post means after, are you saying they were after civilization? It wouldn't even make sense if you said pre civilization because they are a civilization. I think what you're looking for is the term ancient civilization.
@@MultiRabbitfaceI think his keyboard corrected the term past to post. He surely means past civilizations.
If we gonna die we dying in style. Sign of class and cultural influence/dominance.
Im gonna play devils advocate on this one, Roman EMPIRE is accurate as they show the exact/very similar red woth plate armor.
However Roman REPUBLIC had a bunch of different armors and colours, but usually we are talking about the roman empire, so youre actually wrong "🤓"
Man, the idle animations are so realistic!
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Hastatus from the First Republic look dope as hell
They're essentially hoplite 2.0
Republic is always better
Song?
Warhawk from Kevin Graham
Hollywood doesn't even think it's up to 1453. The movies show gladiators, feasts and pagan Greco-Roman gods. Nothing else.
Triarii were renouned spear welding heavy infantry, the gladius was only used later
Hollywood: "You think we would do research and be accurate about the History? This is Madness."
Roman Soldier: "Madness...THIS IS ROMA!"
Part 2 with Byzantines
Yessss
U forgot Pretorian guards
They had a goblet in 1 hand
And emperor by the b0llz by the other
I am sorry for some reason the Hoplite era armor is just so stuck in my brain, I'll just keep thinking of them in that way please 😅
Ending of the video: so hollywood was right about it since they mostly make movies about empire period.
They kinda have to because of their limited costume department.
I want to see a Third Samnite War movie. Such a cool period.
Edit: I am fully aware that Hollywood is completely incapable of making a decent movie these days... much less one set in the early republic lol. But a man can dream right?
Except for the fact that they usually even mess that up or show early imperial armor for middle or late imperial time periods.
Well they are not. For most of the imperial period the legioins used chainmail like before. The "plate" armor (segmentata) was never the standard for most legions, many of them never recieved any of them. And he completly neglacted the Scalearmor (Squamata armor), wich where in use for the entire time of the roman history, just like the chainmail (hamata)
To be fair, most Hollywood directors don't larp on the weekends.
I mean they might as well but most roman shows and movies are about the imperial times
You have to larp to be historically accurate?
Isn’t the whole business of making a movie pretty much just larping?
@@aidanmcwhirter2612 kinda except you actually get paid to do it.
I have been learning about the Roman Empire for 6 years now and the Roman’s were always called the ‘Roman empire’
Imagine getting beat by a Legionary with a STICK!!
The Kukhuri shaped sword (which I believe is called "Falcata") is such a cool looking blade, I'd love to own one.
I think that's a kopis. Falcata was an Iberian celt sword Carthage adopted then Rome adopted. Kopis was a Greek sword Rome adopted. Romans just called them all machara.
Kopis has a slighter curve, falcata more of a corner but also didn't get a great look at it and they can be pretty similar. I just assume that mid Republic (when they were fighting Carthage during which they just conquered Spain) theyre probably not as likely to have adopted the falcata as the kopis. But the fullers on it make it seem like maybe it is a falcata
Both are cool as hell and I agree I'd totally love one
Just buy it then
Finally someone who understands history
Real nice variants, existed in reality, thank you! Roma Victor!
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Yes! Waiting for late imperium.
Soon coming! We already shot it, going to edit and post! ⚔️💪🏻 Follow us for more content soon
You should do late WRE and Byzantine iterations next.
Basically they choose the coolest one
Thank you.
I’ve always wanted a horror-Esque late empire film.
honestly, a game of thrones style show where "winter is coming" except its just Attila would be sick
imagine a horror movie focusing on some regular roman soldiers in the german forests, like that one ambush of a bunch of germans and arminius jumping the soldiers, a horror movie like that with the barbarians as the monster figures
Triarii mid Republic and Hastatus First Republic are genuinely my favourites out of those.
I get that they stayed behind the shield but for this video we didn’t get a good look at the armor . There is always pause button though!
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You seem to have swapped the Triarius and Princeps weapons,@@LegioPrimaItalica; you gave the Princeps a spear? 🤔
>starts pointing out silliness of Hollywood thinking everything between 753bc and 1453 AD is lorica segmentata.
>follows by hyperfixating on the manipular legion before barely getting to the early imperial at the end of the clip, ignoring 1453 years of development.
I know it's a yt short but come on bruh.
In all honesty though its his dates that are a bit suspect. Rome ended circa the 5th century and they were still using the Marian military reforms, aka the legionary. Their military might began several centuries after is founding of 753bc.
@@waldorfmcvitty4854 I mean, it didn't though did it? The Roman empire reconquered Italy North Africa and parts of Spain less than 80 years after the date it supposedly fell, and was still a major power in the Mediterranean littoral until the 13th century.
@@bairdrew I think if anything at all, you are confusing the Roman Empire with the Holy Roman Empire.
@@waldorfmcvitty4854 *laughs in Justinian*
Bro forgot the other 1000 years of romans
We don't talk about them here
They look sillier than how hollywood potrays them, until you're on the front lines fighting them
You get minus points for wrist bracelets that’s Hollywood invention.
I believe now and always will that Rome is the greatest civilization the world has ever seen
ROMA AETERNA
Second one looks dope. The octopus shield and the receptors at the helmet.
Thank you for the illustration, it's a treat to see the evolution of arms and equipment
“Did you see those triarii mid republic soldiers have curved swords? Curved…swords…”
Due to evolutions in warfare with Thracians, Sarmatians, others....
(while opposed and also later when absorbed)
@@howardhoman8233 my bad dude I was being a buffoon. It was a skyrim joke… but I appreciate the quick bit of history, sounds like you know a lot about the subject 🫡🙏
This made me laugh way too hard
At least they get your guys right for one specific time... Sincerely, a medieval historian.
Hey thank you a lot! I'm making a DnD Homebrew and I'm making Kobold Soldiers so knowing all these different soldiers and how they dress really helps me a lot
Finally someone did what I was thinking about for a long time 👍
Can't get enough of this music.
Warhawk from Kevin Graham
Thank you, both Shazam and google assistant couldn't get this one for me@@ShamanBlacklotus
@@ShamanBlacklotusI wonder if there's a different version of Warhawk since this sounds a bit slower than the original