What's the BEST HELMET for a medieval adventurer?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 มี.ค. 2023
- Let's look at the most iconic and common medieval helmets, discussing the pros and cons.
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Honestly, feels like being children again playing with sticks and flat boards; with a dash of adult supervision in teaching. Love these videos.
I'm not entirely sure how much supervision the "adults" add to things.
@@morlath4767 they make sure nobody is on fire
@@morlath4767 they make sure that the beatings are done efficiently, not sloppy and amateurish
Both totally fair answers. I suppose it's the best we could hope for with these loveable collection of scamps.
...wait, who's the adult?
I very much appreciate Nate showing that you're meant to wear soft cloth, padding, mail, and maybe more padding BEFORE the helmet. Every game in existence making you craft armor out of just metal bars with no lining or padding, that's just illogical - which always brings me to the only sensible piece of armor in World of Warcraft, some metal chestplate that takes a leather chestpiece in its crafting.
I sense a level of ease, imagine having to worry on your supply of cloth along with the metals, the game designers went for ease over realism
In GW2 all heavy armour sets use cloth padding during the crafting process. Casing and padding are crafted separately, then put together to craft the armour piece. The end result is rarely historically accurate or even believable though, but fantasy MMORPGs...
Kingdom Come Deliverance, my good man. There's like 13 slots just for armor, clothing, and different kinds of padding. The head is helmet, mail, and padded coif
It's really funny how little attention this gets but I have always thought that was a cool thing that wow did that literally every other mmo overlooked or ignored
@@wingofshu "the game designers went for ease over realism"
Yeah.. by requiring you to get 7 different pieces of metal, special coal, 17 hammers and a golden anvil....
I love that the WW1/WW2 Brodie helmet worn by the British and Commonwealth troops was basically a modern kettle helmet. Instead of protecting from arrows and blows from above, it protects from shrapnel.
Was about to say that it technically was the most modern helmet in the selection
Also German Stahlhelm is heavy inspired by Sallets
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@@yourlocalt72I'm actually sad that they didn't have any in this video. I love the German style sallets
@@dizo-jp2tdOmg shut up
I feel that if you account for the fact that adventurers basically *live* in their armor, the Kettle Helm makes a *lot* of sense. If you put your helmet on when you get up in the morning and don't take it off until you go to bed at night, comfort and convenience become very important.
Depends on the time period you set your adventurers in. If you set it in the high middle ages then aye!!! It might even be the most affordable surpassed only by the cervelliere.
But if you set it in the bronze age, they'll be wearing leather caps fr.
I mean that makes some sense, but helmets, even modern ballistic helmets, are just uncomfortable to wear, even the best ones. For most people, unless they're expecting to be attacked, they'll put their helmet somewhere more comfortable, like on a pack or on a belt, etc. In reality, on a long journey it's unlikely you'd be wearing your helmet the whole time, so a kettle helm would probably be even better as the shape lends itself quite nicely to storage on a pack more easily than some of the other more odd shapes.
Just take them off when you're not in combat?
@@horactik9838But then it's very clumsy and takes a lot of space if you try and hoist or pack a helmet, which would be poor for mobility in an adventure scenario.
you could also use a kettle helm as a bowl or cooking pot if you really want to
It's like watching MythBusters, the History Channel, and The Three Stooges all at once. Absolutely love the playful enthusiasm you guys all bring for these videos.
ya know what...thats the best way to describe the vibe I was feeling watching this.
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Imagine if they were given their own tv show 🤔
@@swiftystickgamer6494 that would be beyond awesome.
3 characters that work really well comically is: "Uncle" Nate trying hard to explain cool things, Ty being a Hiper-energetic teenager and Shad being the "good intentions, bad consequences" friend who everyone loves but hate to tell no. (Still miss Shad in the helmets talk. I wish him good health)
If it just wouldn’t feel so scripted…
Oh it's Chad unwell I haven't kept up with every video?
@@daedalus5253 They are not professional actors, mate. This is just fun for them and to break the "serious" or "tedious" parts.
And everyone needs to practice, in a year they will be much better doing this improvised bits then now. It only takes some time.
@@xavmanisdabestest He has something. He posted a video explaining some time ago and before his surgery a lot of time ago. He doesn't have much energy to do everything himself, that's why he has help now.
Shad, not "Chad".
If I were an adventurer I'd probably go for something like a morion/kettle helmet. You're gonna be wearing your helmet a lot and the brim would help keep the sun out of your eyes, in addition to defending you from the rocks that tend to fall on adventuring parties.
Is rocks falling on adventurers a reference to something? I'm gonna guess DnD
@@Meta-Drew Yes, it's the "Rocks fall, you die. Everyone else levels up" meme, that is used by DMs to get rid of a terrible player.
@@khaorix2667Or alternatively “Rocks fall, everybody dies” when he just gives up and decides to tpk.
"rocks fall, everybody dies" (but some die of suffocation or dehydration, not blunt trauma)
11:40 I know the "Don't try this at home!" bit is kind of universal in media, but I still respect you guys for taking time to state that. Also going into depth explaining themselves, their background, and their trust in eachother, both makes the guys more professional and more human
You've just got to appreciate the dynamics of the trio
You said it mate! It's so nice to see the boys all together. And Shad seems a lot more relaxed in these latest videos!
Tyranth can be a bit annoying and unprofessional
Yeah I like where this is going
I think it is more entertaining with the interactions between them that you just cannot get with a single person. Not only is there more humor, but they each bring different skills, knowledge, and their own perspectives / observations.
My thought exactly, excellent dynamics and fun videos.
3:14 roman ridge helmet
6:05 face covering
8:38 spectical helmet
13:04 nasile gards
15:11 koith
18:13 flat helm and round helem (murder helm)
19:55 test
20:42 other stuff about them
21:54 testing eyesight
22:40 Italian helmet
23:37 kettal helm
24:37 great helm ans suger loth
28:39 basanet (visers)
31:48 barb uit helm
33:22 frogmouth
34:00 Italian and German sallet
34:54 armets
36:04 viser barb uit
38:58 more "armet" actually a closed helmet
40:11 suspension rige
41:20 final thoughts
44:40 testing suspension rige helmet
Sorry this took forever ive had stuff to do. Sorry for spelling my dyslexia makes it hard to spell what there saying..
Btw this is the 12th timestamp comment ive done this week
Thank you!
@@Dawindell im surprised no one has been anoyed about my spelling
@@theromanorder hey, you graciously gave us all the time marks, we ain't gonna cry over spelling :p
@@ShiroIsMyName thanks its just in the past i did this on lindebages Ukraine videos and people got so mad but many were veru very very kind. ....
@@theromanorder I'm curious, why are you doing these?
For a fantasy adventure group, field of view and ease of communication are going to be at a premium. Bear in mind, these are small teams of individual specialists, not formations of soldiers, and they routinely fight with a fair degree of separation from each other, frequently against multiple opponents. There isn’t a fixed chain of command typically, either, so staying coordinated is crucial given they often have little or no idea what they will be fighting against next until the fighting starts.
very good point
The visored barbute is very proeminent in fantasy, games, tabletop etc because it fits nicely in the medieval adjacent universes, it's very close to what actually existed, it's very functional, it's one of the best compromise between visibility, protection and ability to breathe, and it looks absolutely amazing, and it doesn't have an overblown fantasy look to it, which ironically makes it perfect for fantasy worlds
I think the bec de corbin is one of the most dangerous weapons of all time, so seeing Shad coming onto the scene with his was hilarious. *chef's kiss*
probably not the lucerne from dark souls, maybe
Bec de Corbins were not too dangerous as long as you put the proper child locks on them and stored them in a safe separate from the ammo.
@@xursed7990 lmao
@@xursed7990 only dangerous if it's an assault Bec de Corbin XD
@@xursed7990 ah yes, Bec de Carbines.
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I also have a soft spot for the Kettle Helmet. For adventuring it just has so much utility not just as a helmet but as a proper hat, and it is most likely the easiest on the coin purse considering how little work really needs to go into that, especially compared to the full helms with visors or articulation and such.
And some models can serve as a bowl for food!
And something brought up by another TH-camr is that you're not going to be in full armour the whole time. If you're marching, you don't want to be wearing your war armour, that's with the rest of your gear. What you want is something so that if you do get attacked on the road, you're not completely unarmoured, and that is where the kettle helmet excels - you could comfortably wear it all day every day, yet it offers a very good amount of protection, and if you know you're about to be in combat, you can switch to your better helmet
also doubles as a water vessel, or even a cooking pot (though that could ruin the temper pretty easily if you applied direct heat - better to use a hot stone)
or even a cooking pot if you used a hot stone, not direct heat @@Sk0lzky
I now notice the T-Barbute became the inspiration for Star War's Mandalorian helmets, menacing look while still being practical perfect for a faction of battle fanatics.
I'd actually argue that the Mandalorian helmet is based off of Greek hoplite designs.
As soon as Nate started talking about the suspension rig in the helmet, I started cheering.
Anybody who's ever worn a hard hat for its intended purpose knows why.
Those shock absorbers haha
Back when I was in the US Army, we had the ACH, which is little more than an iterated Stahlhelm with modern materials. Had seen plenty of training aides showing the actual battle damage to them, but the padding for them was just a selection of velcro shaped pads. When I was in training, we had a few of the older K-pots with rigging instead, and always though it would be nifty if we could make a modern helmet with the protective qualities and general design of the ACH but with the rigging of the older models. I know we wouldn't because of the fact that it would have to be so much bigger...
The suspension rig in those helmets is comfortable but should still be used with padding at least to the sides. The suspension asorbs shock from downward strikes. Side strikes have little or no absorsion. In a bscinet with a chain aventail, this weight of the chain serves to absorb some sideways momentum and protect your neck from wiplash. One topic that these guys should have covered with more clarity is that heavy helmets have higher innate inertia meaning that they take much more energy to move and so protect you from neck injury. If you are larping then go for a light helm. If you are fighting with Buhurt or other full speed full contact style then absorbing energy from all directions is very important.
even if you get rung like a bell's clapper, it's better than direct contact
Seeing Shad return the helmet almost looks like Boromir returning the Ring in LOTR. Nate had to snatch it like Frodo
I love kettle helms so much, they are way to underappreciated in media, though I guess you could say that about most helmets. Thanks for the video, it was great. It's always nice to see that there indeed does exist people who genuinely care about the history of armour. We need people like you guys supervising movies and shows.
The lads are legends. Im so glad Shad that not only is this better for your health, but the chemistry is perfect. What a brilliant group
LOVING the medieval myth busting so far.
Gotta win the Bec de Corbin cameo!
Famous mythbuster’s phrase “I reject your reality and substitute my own”
@@bruticus1496 “Quack, Damn you.”
@@KainaX122 are my eyebrows missing? Jamie like big boom
@@bruticus1496 “Am I missing. . . an eyebrow?”
@@bruticus1496 Nice! Dungeon master!
Any concerns I had about the new direction are basically nullified by this video. Absolutely love the dynamic and knowledge of everyone. Thanks again Shad for giving so much love and concern to this area of historical and fantasy interest.
Seeing Shad pop in with his polearm, "We're hitting things!?" no pun intended really hit home the safety required to pull this kind of vid off. The dynamic between these three wonderfully displays a respect for the martial aspects in a host of ways; enjoying the art for it's own sake, understanding the physicality of it, and deep lore...
I wish Shad the best.
This is going to be so useful for me, thank you kindly. I'm going to model my own helmet and 3d print it and I got a few ideas how to improve it from your vid. Love you guys, the chemistry between you is amazing ♥
i love the attention to detail by having a sound when you remove the helmet, very nice. these videos help a lot with my blacksmith DND character, love to call out mid battle when someones helmet sucks and slap the side of the helmet so hard they perish.
Firstly, a sincere thank you to all of you. And to you, Shad, your humility is truly inspiring. I wish a courage and persévérance with your health situation. Cordially, William
Hear, hear!
Well put
I know it is a sad thing that Shad has health issues, but I like the team he is putting together to step up for him.
I haven't been the most avid follower, what happened to him?
@@DustMug th-cam.com/video/Z7cPScLMYwM/w-d-xo.html
@@DustMug could be a lot of things and he didn't talk about specifics but he said he needs help and can no longer manage the full workload.
@@DustMugProbably the effects of the "covidvaccine". I have a lot of mates who were swimmers,lifters and cyclists. They took all the shots and now they cannot even half of what they used to. They were very active people. Now they get winded out at every bit of physical effort
@DustMug I'm 52 and already half crippled with a combination of chronic autoimmune disease and a legacy of muscular skeletal.injuries from rugby and skiing from age 10 to 30
Shad, your enthusiasm for me to sun to your channel years ago. That same vigor and the topics on things I’ll never experience kept me coming back. I gotta say, the addition of the co-hosts, the new format, and caliber of uploads have been a phenomena change for the channel! I hope this gives you an opportunity to focus on your health, while continuing the growth of SHADIVERSITY!
Love that so many videos have been coming out with a broad range of topics. I hope Shad has been able to get some good rest with these two around.
I'm currently playing Kingdom Come Deliverence while watching you guys talk about Medieval Helmets 😍 perfect Saturday morning 🤓
Love that game!
Fantastic mate I love Kingdom Come Deliverance.
I wish more games had the headpiece overlay be googles or barrel helm
This one was one of the best videos you have ever done. Kuddos to the team and Nate is awesome ! He speaks with so much passion about this. Love the energy !
Love the work, keep it up gents. I appreciate the collaboration and expanding the Shadiversity course load.
I love how in depth you guys went on this. Most people don't consider breathing, sight, and hearing as being important. They just want max protection, but not having your full senses and being able to breath easy is just as important.
As a former infantry soldier who fought in Afghanistan, I can absolutely attest to the fact that you want a full range of your senses. It's just as important in modern times.
I love the new dynamic in the Shadiversity team
Same!
A fun theory that has been in the back of my mind is that many Celtic helmets actually did have wings and many Viking helmets did have horns, but they were not literal wings and horns. In a some ways the cheek guards look like/resemble flapping wings to a common person. Similar to the nasile guard, same may have thought they looked a lot like a horn or tusk. I wander if there are any historical records that would suggest that. Haha if true, that Roman ridge helmet is both winged and horned! Best of both worlds!
This was the second of your videos I ever watched, and it's still one of my favorites!
As my reward for staying up till 3am on a work night, I get a MASSIVE addition to the Shadiverse!
I really enjoyed the camera overlays to simulate the first person view in each helm!
The length and work putted in this video is crazy. Incrdible work everybody!
The trust is amazing! You guys can practically leave your life in each other's hands. Keep up the good work.
I'm loving the direction this channel is going to so far! The recent videos have all been so educational and entertaining! The shorts are great too!
I'd love to see shad and friends in a medieval fantasy movie.😁 I think their dynamics would translate great into film. It would probably have to be a bit of a comedy though.
Mix these guys up with epic npc guys! Welcome to honeywood!
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Great video! The growing Shadiverse content is informative and funny. Keep up the great work.
The burgundian flutted skull kettle, has always been one of my favorites. So loved the fellow kettle helm appreciator.
My personal favorite is the barbute. Great balance beetween protection and visibility
It look good.
I think I like the kettle helm alot too.
I didn't plan to watch the whole 50 minutes in one go, but literally got stuck to the screen. Absolutely amazing presentation skills by Nate!
Absolutely LOVED this one. Thank you so much for the informative fun.
This video was beautifully made. What fantastic charming presenters. Really entraining and informative. Thank you!
Not only do I LOVE the little skits and just seeing how these guys have fun together, but the amount of trust they have in each other is amazing to see. I have a group I practice with weekly with bottle cutting and such and we're huge on blade safety. To have someone even weakly swing a blunt at your helmet requires serious trust in the other person to do safely. And to be the one swinging at your friend? To me that's even harder. You have to have faith in them, as well as yourself. Seeing them not only have fun, but trust each other this much? Truly impressive and it just adds to my already over the top hype for the direction this channel is taking. Damn good adventure, grateful to be here for it!
There's something just so Monty-Python-esque about great helms! LOL Another great video, guys!
This was a funny, informative and entertaining episode. Go on ya'll for making it
Your Australian or NZ accents are so pleasant to listen to. I'm not a native English speaker, but I think English is such a great language for accents, they all sound great.
Cheers from Norway.
Shad: I heard we're hitting things.
Nate: NO!
So the testers and build crew are there to keep Shad in line... very wise.
Taren and Nate make a superb team. Bringing them on to assist was a significant improvement. Not that I don't love Shad but having the two of them collaborate with Shad offering occasional input is definitely a winning formula.
I love the childish silliness you guys have with these informative videos. Proof that videos can be funny and highly informative
Love to see this trio of sword and armour experts discuss and educate about why people of the past design products as such. 👍🏻
Shad is definitely feeling better and I’m super proud of y’all for hitting a “swing” of things (pun intended.) videos feel much more relaxed and natural.
Videos like these help keep me in a good direction for doing proper research for a series I’m writing. Thank you sm Shad ⚔️ ❤️ your channel is one of the best on TH-cam.
This was an amazing walkthrough of medieval renaissance helmets. It was both educational and fun!
This is was one of the best reviews and one of the best and more funny scripts I ever seen. Congratz guys!
Kettle helm with a candlestick affixed ontop. For delving into unlit caves and tombs, while still being able to wield an armament in/with both hands. Or, a helmet that has the "light" cantrip cast on it works too.
Atleast if nothing else, the other adventurers will be able to see where their tank "Headlamps McGee" has gone.
Having these guys on board to help Shad is such a blessing. So much fun.
The two extra homies are ducking perfect additions, love the chemistry and jokes thrown in
I like this format. Two guys having fun while Shad is having small cameos.
Kettlehelm has pure guard energy to me.
Love these videos, you guys do great work and highly entertaining 👍👍
that's a nifty little greathelm you got there. I have always loved the Sicilian style phygerian helmet with gilded faceplate.
What a revival of the channel!, great work by all the guys very well done and entertaining. continue the great work!
Didn't really say which helmet is best, but I learned alot about helmets in general and that made it worth watching. Well done! 👍
My favorite is the flat top with the cross on the forehead or the classic RuneScape plate helmet, the one with the bars
So great to see all those examples in one place; love the buddy-comedy vibe!
I am so happy, second video in a row I've made it to in the first fifteen minutes!
Expected to only stay for a couple minutes, but these two are great! Love the host
The kettle helm and barbute were two helmets I wanted to see covered in this episode and I was so happy to see them both being talked about. The kettle helm bc it is my favorite helm bc of its similarity to our modern combat helmets (sort of) and it’s practical sun protection since I am prone to sunburn. The barbute bc it’s the helm that the Mandalorian helmets are designed after with the T-shaped opening. Loved it guys!
kettles are basically English WWI helmets
I like the new format,y’all have great chemistry
Really cool seeing you together, there is a great dynamic between you all
instructive, fun and enjoyable videos that put a smile on your face
Thank you Shad
I love the idea of the kettle helm. I'm currently working on a little comic book idea and I think it would work great for the main character! It's not meant to be historic so I might add a nose bridge to make it a little unique :) learning a lot about this stuff from the channel, thanks!
What I really liked about this video WHICH YOU SHOULD DO WAY MORE especially in this cimparison is show you changed the vision for the viewer while showing the helmet, this was really good.
That barrel helm is like the One Ring. Everyone wants it.
Personally, I think my favorite is the griffon helm.
Tom Bombadil didn't want the ring and just tossed it away
What a great crew. I love the dynamic between you guys, and the recent videos have been great. Good mix of fun and education (great for getting the kids interested), and I think they appeal to both newbies unfamiliar with the sword community and those of us who have been around for decades. Really enjoying the recent videos. Keep it going!
Something I loved about the siege of helms deep, with all the uruk-hai stood at the wall, was their breath vapour shooting out of the bottom of the helmets. It was great visual language, it made them look pumped up and mean. With those helmets I can just imagine standing on the battlefield early on a foggy autumn/winter English morning, cavalry and knights billowing vapour into the air waiting for the battle to begin.
Gah dang. U gave me chills sir
First one i've watched with Nate. Good job and thank you! Great subject, and id like to see more armor breakdowns by area i.e. arms, legs.
Man I'm loving these new videos.
I've always enjoyed this channel and what you have done Shad. That being said I'm very much enjoying the dynamic between the 3 of you.
"I heard you were hittin' things!" Walks up with a bec de corbin and a grin.
this is exactly the type of content i didn’t know i needed
This was great! Now i know what helmet to bring next time i visit england
these videos are so playful and educational at the same time and it's perfect
honestly one of the best videos yet. love the energy nate brings
fantastic video Shad and company. I enjoied a lot!!!
The way Nate puts the Crusader helmet on is the content I need in my life.
Swords are cool too.
So many wonderful things to praise... Gonna pick demonstrating the field of vision for the camera and making sure to call out that you are not actually being reckless and you are thinking about safety. You all are the best!
This is amazing! I loved the armet with the double pivot point. That was probably my favorite. That or the coif with the face visor and the cross cut out. Gorgeous swords.
Amazing job, Shad and team!
I love the Hounskull and German Sallet helmets. To me they look absolutely fierce, and the full plate with all the decorations and ridges that are usually associated with Sallet helmets are just wonderful. I do enjoy that the Brits looking for a helmet for their doughboys in WW1 looked at the Kettle helmet and thought, "yeah this will work" and it absolutely did. As for my helmet pick if I were an adventurer? If I had lived my life as a boy, teen, and adult learning to fight in armor and all the intricacies that entails then I'd definitely go for the Hounskull. If I was a merc previously or just some dude I'd pick the kettle and call it a day. Great video though, I learned ALOT.
The best humor from this channel. Cheers!
What a fun engaging episode, I learned so much. I honestly didn't know that the wardens helmet was a thing. For Honor really did help give more acknowledgment to that helm. A visored barbute huh...
Loving all these new hosts, Shad! Always great to have you around, but having different folks on really makes it feel larger than a single TH-cam Channel :)
Man, I don’t know how I got here, but I’m all for it, it’s so nice to see people passionate about stuff, also the fact when they did the drum skit, he said at the end he wanted to try with swords
22:52 for some reason I absolutely adore this helmet, just love it
The sallet is by far my favorite helmet. The fact that it had great breathability and protection is just amazing. Plus, it's the one helmet I have IRL
Yeah, in my opinion it is a strong contender for the best helmet for an adventurer, at least if they have more money, particularly when paired with an articulated bevor. If they need visibility and breath ability they could raise the visor, tilt the helm back, and lower the bevor, and the face would be completely open, but it still offers excellent protection to the back of the neck and sides of the helm, and at any time if they feel additional protection is needed they could very rapidly raise the bevor, tilt the helm and lower the visor, and they can do any combination of tilted helm, raised visor, and lowered bevor as needed.
Gotta hard disagree, the Sallet with the bevor that covers your whole mouth and nose, with nothing more than a slit for vision has got to be the worst helmet for adventuring. You open yourself to ambushes with how limiting it is for visibility, and it's not quick and efficient to add/remove the face coverage. A simple Bascinet is probably the best. You have tons of options for face masks (pig face, klappvisor, nasal, cross and more) they can be swung open and quickly shut when needed, or fully removed.
Most of this comes from HMB experience, but having fought in both helms, I HATED the sallet and its one of the least popular in the sport.
It excels in protection which is why it was prominent in history but its a big trade off, they have terrible breathing and terrible vision. (when combined with the bevor) but without the bevor your throat is exposed. The armet has most of the same features as the salet but it allows instant flip up of your vision AND breathing when needed. You can only flip the vision of a Sallet in mid combat. the bevor takes time to equip.
if i had to pick a helmet, i'd choose the Kettle and Great/Barrel helms.
and i'd only be wearing a gambeson - with leather vambraces considering i'd be carrying a bow.
Bro samee !!!
I really like the options of the sallet, being able to choose if you want your entire head covered in steel or leave parts open to breathe better if you're not fighting something that is able to stab.
also i like the sallet because its german translation is Schaller and another meaning for that word is a loud banging noise/ intense feeling after being struck
Dudes this is my wholesome therapy. Love the channel all the knights feel like real bros u could chill with. Love all the back and forth having a good time. Never change. Hope u doing well Shad