I'm pretty sure quik said that another consequence of Samus charge shot hitting higher is that Samus can hit wario off of bike but Damus will just hit the bike
I think it is worth mentioning that Dark Samus's green color disguises the super missile, and the purple color disguises the normal missile. Unless the opponent is paying close attention, the "telegraph" frames where the missile pokes out of the end of the arm cannon are less obvious. Samus always has a green arm canon.
Wow, i never thought there were so many small differences, this is the kind of content that i didn’t know that i needed, keep going with this kind of videos.
I don’t think these small differences add up to dark samus feeling like anything more than a straight up clone. I wish Dark samus would have at least gotten 1 distinct special move.
They didn’t really use the correct image of dark samus/Samus double jumping. Dark Samus literally does a spider man pose mid air and like doubles it’s hurt box size basically lol. As a Samus main, my advice is to play regular Samus if you plan to be in the air a lot and dark Samus if you plan to stay more grounded. Just my 2 cents
@@mr-shooter7728 With Simon, it’s fire, with Richter, it just looks like fire but the game doesn’t interpret it as fire. It matters because some characters have things that interact differently with fire. For example, Olimar’s red Pikmin are immune to fire, so Simon’s won’t destroy red Pikmin but Richter’s will. Also, Link’s bombs detonate when hit by fire, so Simon can force them to detonate (which can create a wall that bombs can’t pass through or can force bombs to detonate in Link’s hand) while Richter’s won’t do that I might be missing a unique interaction or two, but it doesn’t matter for most matchups
U-Smash- Dark Samus < Samus F-Smash - Dark Samus < Samus Dash Attack Dark Samus > Samus Neutral B - Dark Samus (better for ground options) Samus (better for ariels options) Pick your poison Roll- Dark Samus > Samus Up B- Dark Samus > Samus Jump- Dark Samus < Samus F-Air- Dark Samus > Samus Down-Tilt Dark Samus > Samus Sheild Dark Samus < Samus
I don’t really understand why they went their way to make echo characters like Lucina, Chrom and Ken so different but Dark Pit, Daisy, Richter and Dark Samus basically the same.
Samus is better against wario, and worse against characters with moves that get affected by fire like links bomb. Otherwise all the other matchups are the same for both chars. If you are maybe not as skilled and do a lot of rolls, probably stick to dark samus for the better roll frame data. Otherwise they are the same char.
During her final smash Samus has backburners wich can slightly hurt opponents. Dark Samus doesn't have these. So technically Samus is worse beacuse the backburners can potentially push opponents away from the main laser. And for those who somehow don't know what her final smash is, it's a massive laser that crosses the entire stage and kills at like 30%
Vod felt like it had a lot of filler and could've been better understood in a slide show with gif comparisons. That was just 15 min....now imagine 4 hours...
The part about electric vs flame effect isn't really accurate. The video that's playing is completely misleading, there is actually no difference on shield at all. The real difference is that electric moves incur 1.5x more hitlag (the freeze frame when a move is hit) meaning that in case of a hit both players have more time to react. The Samus player to plan their followup, the opponent to DI properly. This does NOT mean more hitstun (how long the opponent cannot act after being hit), although this was the case in Sm4sh. Flame effects also detonate explosives as mentioned and electric and flame effect moves don't affect yellow and red pikmin respectively.
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I'm pretty sure quik said that another consequence of Samus charge shot hitting higher is that Samus can hit wario off of bike but Damus will just hit the bike
how about grounded minecart?
@@letsmakeit110 I've hit steve out of mine cart a few times qith samus charge shot, its super satisfying lol. Not so sure about dark samus though!
I think it is worth mentioning that Dark Samus's green color disguises the super missile, and the purple color disguises the normal missile. Unless the opponent is paying close attention, the "telegraph" frames where the missile pokes out of the end of the arm cannon are less obvious. Samus always has a green arm canon.
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Wow, i never thought there were so many small differences, this is the kind of content that i didn’t know that i needed, keep going with this kind of videos.
I don’t think these small differences add up to dark samus feeling like anything more than a straight up clone. I wish Dark samus would have at least gotten 1 distinct special move.
They didn’t really use the correct image of dark samus/Samus double jumping. Dark Samus literally does a spider man pose mid air and like doubles it’s hurt box size basically lol. As a Samus main, my advice is to play regular Samus if you plan to be in the air a lot and dark Samus if you plan to stay more grounded. Just my 2 cents
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The fire thing is also true for the Belmonts. Simon has fire holy water while richter doesn’t, so it makes a big difference against Link and Olimar
I dont understand whats the difference between holy water and fire???
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With Simon, it’s fire, with Richter, it just looks like fire but the game doesn’t interpret it as fire.
It matters because some characters have things that interact differently with fire.
For example, Olimar’s red Pikmin are immune to fire, so Simon’s won’t destroy red Pikmin but Richter’s will.
Also, Link’s bombs detonate when hit by fire, so Simon can force them to detonate (which can create a wall that bombs can’t pass through or can force bombs to detonate in Link’s hand) while Richter’s won’t do that
I might be missing a unique interaction or two, but it doesn’t matter for most matchups
@bryce5075 Richter is like damus where it will give aura effect. Fire also insta detonates steve tnt
i don't use either, but this was an interesting topic i've always wondered. good content metafy.
U-Smash-
Dark Samus < Samus
F-Smash -
Dark Samus < Samus
Dash Attack
Dark Samus > Samus
Neutral B -
Dark Samus (better for ground options)
Samus (better for ariels options)
Pick your poison
Roll-
Dark Samus > Samus
Up B-
Dark Samus > Samus
Jump-
Dark Samus < Samus
F-Air-
Dark Samus > Samus
Down-Tilt
Dark Samus > Samus
Sheild
Dark Samus < Samus
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I don’t really understand why they went their way to make echo characters like Lucina, Chrom and Ken so different but Dark Pit, Daisy, Richter and Dark Samus basically the same.
Peach and Daisy's turnips used to be different but for some reason they made them the same after one of the patches. Such a lame, unnecessary change.
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i can't wait to watch samsora explain the difference between peach and saisy
Cool to see a MU specific mention vs Link and his bomb. Totally agree that Dark Samus is the move in that situation 👍
Lol escuchar a sisqui ablar en inglés no me es raro pero escucharlo en un video entero me es curioso xD
super cool video! had no idea about all these small details.
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Samus is better against wario, and worse against characters with moves that get affected by fire like links bomb. Otherwise all the other matchups are the same for both chars. If you are maybe not as skilled and do a lot of rolls, probably stick to dark samus for the better roll frame data. Otherwise they are the same char.
Dark Samus is overall better because dark Samus overall is cooler
During her final smash Samus has backburners wich can slightly hurt opponents.
Dark Samus doesn't have these.
So technically Samus is worse beacuse the backburners can potentially push opponents away from the main laser.
And for those who somehow don't know what her final smash is, it's a massive laser that crosses the entire stage and kills at like 30%
thanks for the video, the animations help a lot
This is like left side cloud sideb vs right side cloud sideb
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Dark Samus up smash lifts the lead leg, so I mean, she tucks a lil for lows.
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im gonna start pronouncing lag like that
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yo haciendo el speaking de ingles en tercero de la eso
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These Dark’s are just a waste of a character slot. It’s like Dark Pit, Dark Samus. I find Lucina a waste of a character slot.
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Cool video, do you want to do some 1v1s
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dark samus has wall jump too right?
Yes
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Vod felt like it had a lot of filler and could've been better understood in a slide show with gif comparisons. That was just 15 min....now imagine 4 hours...
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Samus might be better over all but Dark Samus is cooler
I'll never stop being amazed by people that care about this and/or pay for coaching.
Yea it’s important for those who love playing the game and/or participate in competition
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Guarantee You that no pro has ever paid for coaching. This is for kids with mommy's credit card.
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The part about electric vs flame effect isn't really accurate. The video that's playing is completely misleading, there is actually no difference on shield at all. The real difference is that electric moves incur 1.5x more hitlag (the freeze frame when a move is hit) meaning that in case of a hit both players have more time to react. The Samus player to plan their followup, the opponent to DI properly. This does NOT mean more hitstun (how long the opponent cannot act after being hit), although this was the case in Sm4sh. Flame effects also detonate explosives as mentioned and electric and flame effect moves don't affect yellow and red pikmin respectively.
The on shield hit was explained. It matters in doubles at least.
@@mir8651 fair, it doesn't change how safe a move is on shield in singles though
@@lougamerX Yes. Sisqui mentioned that. You both just get to react more.
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Sisqui pero habla español macho
Is pretty strange to see sisqui speaking english
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Don’t say “samus” challenge impossible
??? It’s literally a video about Samus
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This explaination is rough ngl
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