Steerage and Third Class on Ocean Liners
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- Pretend for a moment that it is 1880 and you need to cross the Atlantic as an immigrant or to visit your family. Do you know what to expect when you board the ship as a steerage passenger and are you prepared for the hardships you will face? How would things be different if you could postpone your journey 30 years to a time after conditions in steerage and third class have improved?
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He's one of the few historians l know of who are able to get their concepts across entertainingly clearly and simply, and one of the even fewer l know who are able to put themselves in the shoes of folks who died hundreds of years ago in different social classes and even cultures. The study of history needs more empaths like this.
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Titanic engine cylinder engineering room
Today, Steerage has made a comeback on airliners.
I was going to make a joke about that at the end of the video, but decided against. You're not wrong, though. That's the price of cheap air travel, I suppose.
@@TheGreatBigMove that's *exactly* the price of cheap air travel. People who whine about the good old days of air travel don't realize how *expensive* it was, and wouldn't dream of wearing a suit or dress.
@Luis Bolanos go back further, before the 1978 Airline Deregulation Act.
@@RonJohn63 This, you can always fly business class. Interesting in that business class has become much better the last generation with seats you can lay entirely flat being standard something who was once first class and first class.
Economy is the new name
I came to America on a ship with my parents in 1955. I was 6 and my memory of the voyage is positive.
Think one of my ancestors had snuck aboard one of the larger liners in the early 1900s on my moms side. But we don't know which ship only that it was a 4 stacked ship. I originally though maybe the Olympic when I was younger but now I'm thinking it could have been any number of ships including the german and french lines.
Wow long time ago!
What age ar you now
And what class
That's a rare and very cool thing to have experienced these days. By that time, the godawful steerage of the 19th and early 20th centuries was a distant memory.
@@MrGw1982 by the 1950's, classes were pretty much done away with. Most likely it was just first class, and then everyone else, like with airplanes
3rd class during the 19th century: putting a lot of people inside a very small space
Ryanair: putting a lot of people inside a very small space and make them pay to bring their bags
I was tempted to, at the end of the video, put a picture of economy on a modern airliner and caption it something like "3rd class in the 21st century." I decided against it..
The toilet will be charged
I stop flying with Ryanair , there is plenty of choice.
Interesting video
I'll take a the longest flight on Ryanair over 19th century steerage 100% of the time, and people from back then would fucking jump for joy for Ryanair compared to what they had.
Thanks for this video. It allowed me to understand how my ancestor traveled from
Jamaica. In 1885.
imagine being stuck on a boat with that many other people... no cell phones... no devices... no movies...
Nothing to do but talk with other strangers on the boat and hear their stories, jokes and tales... eat, poop and sleep XD
Just like the 1980s and 90s
0:52 - 3 pounds sterling in 1880 would be about 360 pounds today, it was a LOT of money
Floyd Looney Good point, I should have included a point of reference.
And how many Freedom Units is that?
Prototheria pounds are the currency in Britain, they’re not talking about freedom units
Owen Mitchell Owen Mitchell freedom units of money. Also it’s equal to 455.69 USD
Keegan Harris what the fuck are freedom units of money? Is it another word for American dollars or something?
i always book a 3rd class cabin on the Queen Mary 2 when I do the transatlantic crossing. It's more comfortable than 1st class on a plane.
dan abe I want go from uk to New York in similar way can you pm me about it little info
@@carolewilson1311 th-cam.com/video/eKEKn-ilMB4/w-d-xo.html watch this video youll like it
QM2 does NOT have 3rd class
Bullshit
My family immigrated to the USA from the Netherlands around 1960. Many people wanted to leave the country and it's colony Indonesia. The Dutch government purchased three former Victory merchant marine ships from the USA and converted them to passenger ships.
The accommodations were basic yet perfectly adequate. The food was good. The voyage took ten days to cross the Atlantic.
The conditions on that ship resembled third class on the newer, smaller ships in this video.
Standards increased drastically over time. In the mid- to late-1800s, the conditions in steerage were inhumane by the standards of future generations.
@@TheGreatBigMove
Of course.
We do need to compare passenger comfort with that of the ships crew at the time.
Their comfort wasn't very good at the time either.
Ships existed to make a profit for their owners. The crew helped to make a profit.
Passengers took up more space than bulk cargo and had need for some measure of comfort.
I imagine that passenger ships of the 1700s and 1600s were considably more primitive.
My Great grandmother arrived in NY in 1886 on the Britannic. Steerage along with her parents and siblings. She said it was awful. In 1925 she sailed on the Olympic 2nd class from NYC to Southampton and 1st class from Southampton to NYC. Much different.
What the hell is a one percent pound?
Let's see...1lb is 16oz. 1% of 16oz would be 0.16oz, which is equivalent to 72.57 grams. I think that's right... (edit: Mr. March was correct with 4.54 grams. I used the wrong conversion. 0.16oz is 4.54 grams...which is a relatively small amount.)
Thank you for asking the question like I did verbatim.
A pound is about 454 grams. One percent of that is 4.54 grams. I have never heard anyone use “percent pound” units before, very odd and confusing.
I am confused too. Maybe he means 1 per cent pound. Perhaps that's why he said "3 per cent pound bread, 1 per cent pound fresh bread". But then again that's what I think.
My guess is that it's an archaic or outdated form if measurement that fell out at a certain point in the past and is no longer in use from that point forward as are many things...like haypenny.
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It's still early. Good job addressing subjects often overlooked. Thanks for your effort.
I found your channel today and subbed, for the content is different and interesting. But if I may? You sound so bored when narrating, it's like you're reading it off in a classroom to people neither interested nor listening. Maybe try image telling this to an attentive audience who are fascinated by your insight? I sure am :)
I enjoyed the video, keep on making them.
Thank you, I certainly will continue making these videos.
Great vlog. The reason for the rise in standard in 3rd class was due to an outbreake of difteria onboard a Hapag Lloyd ship in the 1890s. Many people died and the ship was forced to return to Hamburg. After that the 3rd class got a huge makeover in cabin and meal service.
diptheria
Steerage food actually looks pretty good ngl
This is great! If you plan to do any more on the Golden Age of Ocean Liners, one about the all the classes might be interesting (where it came from, how it persisted, the societal implications of them, why the offered what they did, etc.). Comparing ships of the age also might be really cool.
Riley Gardner thank you! I do plan on doing another video about classes, but I’m not sure yet what I will focus on or what the structure will be. I’ll take your suggestions into consideration.
Titanic engine cylinder coal fired steamship
After hearing my late father relate his experience on troop ships during World War Two,I don’t think late19th steerage was all that bad.
RMS Queen Mary carried 15,740 US troops on one crossing of the Atlantic in WW2... Gawd.. they must have not only been eating in shifts.... but sleeping in shifts as well!
Trooper DGB and now imagine someone pulling a Lusitania on her... absolutely horrible thought.
@@Exodon2020 The beauty of those big transatlantic liners was that they were SO fast that a U Boat had no chance at all of making a succesful attack from anywhere aft of centre...and little enough chance from anywhere else...but yes... - don't think Lusitania...think an even worse Wilhelm Gustloff!
@@trooperdgb9722 5 days compared to 3-7 weeks for the troops crossing for the war of independence. Luxury!
@@Ushio01 Good point! Imagine the state they would have been in on arrival!
Interesting content, but the narration is like a robot in a race.
I enjoyed the video, and gave it a thumbs up, but he sounds more like a bored robot to me.
i personally
like his narration style but i guess we are all different. Check out Bob Gimlin's channel on youtube he has a robotic style but his videos are freaking awesome..
I'd rather have a somewhat flat delivery with good, well-organized info than someone trying to be hip and meme-y while pushing poorly-researched or incomplete facts mixed in with useless filler. Besides, this is only the fourth video on this channel; lots of folks take some time to work out their delivery and style.
@@SynchronizorVideos *Cough cough* Bright Side *cough cough*
I slowed it down to 0.75 so it'll be more watchable.
The narrator sounds as if he had to keep the video length below 10 minutes otherwise he'd be charged extra.
Travelling Steerage looks rather rough, but travelling third class honestly looks better than any way I've traveled in the 21st century.
Are you trafficked regularly or something? I don't think I'd agree.
@@strawberyyicecreamdream216 How often do you ride Greyhound?
@@CocoHutzpah lol. Yeah I think this person greatly exaggerates unless he lives in the developing world.
Third class exists today on some Indian and Russian railway networks, like it explains , it's cheap, make your own bed and buy your own food, many travel TH-camrs have make videos travelling in third class and in general had a very positive and humorous experience, rather than in second or first class
Those food rations were actually bomb.😍😍 Super healthy, too.
You date Oceanic (II) as 1889, but she was built in 1899.
Thanks for pointing that out--must have been a typo. Sorry about that!
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I used to set up the inflight entertainment on Business Class (first class) seats of aircraft for international air carriers
Like aerlingus, Lufthansa, TurkishAir, Аэрофлот etc
We never use 3rd Class to describe it or even Coach, its Tourist Class and 1st class is Business class.
The Seats for Lufthansa business class were i think of a proprietary design and consisted of parts of different matset ials from fabrics and textiles to aluminum, steel, and polymers. There were over 1500 individual plastic parts alone per the the business classs seats for Lufthansa.
These seats are big and require some tricky engineering to allow different parts to tuck/stow and extend from aN upright seat to a small flattened surface or bed.
The motors and series of different gears and rods and other surfaces required to do all the articulating was fascinating and very complicated. The IFE or in-flight entertainment was starting to use more fiber optic lines instead of copper for transporting data to and from the screen/monitor to the cpu located in a small flat box deep beneath the seat closest to the floor and that monitor is situated in the bacl of the seat in front of you.
I havent worked there for a few years but its interesting how you haffta ground your connections on something that's 5 miles up going 200mph. I think there's some onboard 3 phase system for allowing that
What on earth are you drivelling on about? How does any of this relate to this video?
@@Retrakk there was a thing about the proper nomenclature for what was deemed: 1st class, 2nd ass, coach, tourist, business etc.
It, for say international air carriers is called Business Class and Tourist class.
We never ever used Coach, 3rd, Pleb, Serf, Peon, or even Peasant Class.
The point was speaking of the evolution of said nomenclature and the bulk was my credentials signifying that I was verily a part of the need ti know what to call the different seatings by class or low key caste.
Does that helpnyou? Am I not allowed to share my experiences? Does it bug you that much? If your point was _'was all this necessary?'_ then yes, but what say you? Was your response necessary? Was it genuine? Or were you merely attempting to make me look or seem a particular way to an otherwise misinformed or not fully informed passerby?
My family came from Asian to Hawaii in 1906. They rode in steerage with 150 other people . The Pacific Ocean travelers did not have the option of larger ships...
1:54 3% pounds of bread... 1% pounds of bread... 1% pounds of oatmeal... 1% pounds of peas... You're mistranslating something.
I was also a little confused, but I think they are talking of is another name for a Metric ounce (25g), it might have been a measurement that was used as a compromise in the day, many would still use the avoirdupois pound in the US, whilst the London pound was in vogue in Britain. the modern standard pound would not have been common back then...
Ironically that picture shown at 0:23 was actually taken sometime between 1928 and 1937, not the 1880s. Also, the ship in the photograph, the SS _Gülcemal,_ began her life as the White Star Liner _Germanic._
Also, if anyone wants to know what it was like to travel on the _Oceanic_ class, the first modern ocean liners, here you go: th-cam.com/video/YKdYY8qD2YE/w-d-xo.html
Great catch. I did not know that that was the former Germanic in the picture. Thank you for sharing!
Clicked on the link and got an error that states "Video Unavailable This video is private". ???
Fixed it.
@@Daniel_Huffman Yes you did...Thank you ! :)
This video would go crazy back in the day
Top video! Thank you! 👍👍👍
Wow thanks for the great video. It was very interesting.
Transatlantic Passage Times:
AD1760: >1000 hours
AD1840: ~330 hours
AD1920: ~110 hours
AD2000:
If factoring in air travel, ad 200 has a transatlantic crossing of
@@philismenko I don't count a couple of decades of unprofitable flights that were scrapped and never considered again.
There were only 20 Concordes and they only made 50,000 flights over 27 years: that means each Concorde flew an average of about once a week.
I know of nothing other than aircraft that can make the transatlantic crossing in less than seven hours.
Any jet typically does NYC-LON in less than seven hours.
The record by boat stands at 59 hours.
Can you do a video about 2nd class? It’s really hard to find a video about it.
Can you imagine how this was like in those days?.
What is meant by 1% pound of beef, etc?
1/100
.01 pound sterling
@@jamesricker3997 Pound in this case means pound weight. Pound sterling is currency.
Someone else suggested that the narrator was misreading "1lb p.c." which meant one pound (weight) per capita, in other words one pound per head.
ive listened twice and cant really make sense of the numbers. it kind of makes sense if by 1% of a 1 pound = 454g youd get 4.54g of that pound. but then he goes on about 1 lb of beef the fish a couple pounds of potatoes. I donno if im stupid high or this really makes no sense. wtf is a gale...
I'd like to see cruse ships do some ocean-lining again
Cunard lines?
What i find interesting is that the older disney cruise ships have a long bow, short superstructure
Can you do one on second class? I feel they’re over looked.
I've been thinking about it
8:48 Actually, ocean liners havent disappeared entirely. The Queen Mary 2 is a ocean liner and is still in service.
I'm glad I found your channel. Great work ! I love your videos. You are very knowledgeable and animation is great. Thumbs up!
Guillaume Romain Thanks for watching! I’m glad the videos are interesting to you. More to come!
imagine having to bring your own mattress
Thank god my family came with their own boat.
So based on this video, the Third Class on the Olympic Class Ships were definitely luxurious.
Absolutely
Every present dweller of US must thank the ancestors for their braveness to make such terrible voyage .
Many of our ancestors came in the early 1900's too
Mine had it a lot worse than steerage... (slave ships) BUT i agree with your sentiment. Imagine coming here with nothing and still pushing forward.
@@Kammithekiller Even the ones who made the choice, often it was the entire family or clan that decided, it wasn't easy. The Irish were treated terribly too but as many said "Still beats starving to death".
I wonder, but cannot fathom what is would be like.
My family came over mostly in the early 1800s, and depending of what side you look at, land bridges in prehistoric times.
Hell on the highseas😂😂😂😂😂
At 0:53 there is an interesting picture , at least for me. It seems to me I saw it long time back. My dad has a book "The first years of the xx century in pictures" I used to watch many time in my childhood . There was a picture about Hungarian immigrants who stood on long lines to get on steam liners to emigrate in the new world . I'm 90% sure this is the picture and these ppl are Hungarian immigrants! In the first few years of xx century Kingdom of Hungary lost 1 million ppl. Which is a huge number . Wondering if the descendants of these ppl know about this picture and if they would recognize their ancestors among these very poor men and women. From the children of these Hungarians got out even pilots! who bombed Budapest in the second world war. Márai Sándor write about this in "The confession of a bourgeois" .
You can really see in the 1880s that things have moved on just a little bit from the conditions of sailing vessels in the preceding centuries- very little. A faster, more robust ship, but that modest reduction in travel time and increase in safety was about it. Otherwise, might as well be a slightly bigger Mayflower.
pretty much. the commercial revolution of the late 1800s cannot be under estimated. I think between 1860-1910 quality of life increased to an amazing extent.
An interesting topic...but My God !...take a speech course....the delivery was so MONOTONOUS ! 🥶🥶
Why was it called steerage?
Good question! The origin of the term isn't exactly clear. It is possible that it is because steerage accommodations were below deck and often after where the steering gear was located. Alternatively, it could be a reference to 'steer' as in cattle. The latter of these 2 possibilities obviously being much more demeaning than the former. Thanks for the question!
Cattle.lol
@@mgn5667 ?
I know nothing about history but maybe it was based of the word storage, since the storage of the ship was most likely stored near the steerage, so it would make sense someone could maybe have said, "its like storage for people, but near the steering and its like cabins for steer, so lets call it steerage"?
edit, this is just a idea I had.
10 Gamer ya I was gona argue but then I remembered all of world history. Where we degrade everyone for having one thing others don’t have
Let's go back even further in time to the civil war era when people had to travel on wooden ships covered in lice.
have you ever herd of ss Keewatin she wasn't an ocean liner but she's the last great passenger ships from the Edwardian era . the reason why i mentioned her was because she is probably the closest you can get to know that an ocean liner may have looked like with the only difference being that you are on the ship that's not the Queen Mary from 112 years ago she is currently docked in port Nichole, Canada. would you be able to do a video about ss Keewatin
freedom loving loyalist I will add Keewatin to my list. I may not get to it for a while, but I will likely get to make a video on Great Lakes maritime much sooner. I’m looking forward to that one!
@@TheGreatBigMove thank you and do talk about her rivals the ss South America and North America not many people talk about those ships in detail on TH-cam if you ignore the tribute videos
I mean you’ve got to put yourself in the time period. The late 19th century was a time of progression and transition from the old ways of life into a more industrial society.
I say the same thing about people who complain and critique the conditions of people living in places like England during the Industrial period and them saying how bad they were. Would you rather the way Russian people lived ? With no electricity, no wages, no opportunity to generate wealth through business and entrepreneurship and a depressing subsistence livelihood. Sure these conditions are awful and unimaginable for us, but discomfort is infinitely better than serfdom.
Pretty monotone narration, but rather interesting.
Just like being in a Weatherpoons on a Friday night
So what is percent pounds?
Would make more sense to use ounces.
@@Pisti846 would make the most sense to use grams
..Are you sure it's necessary to stop the entire flow of the video just to ask people to subscribe? If you want to ask people to subscribe, you could easily slot that in at the start or end of the video...
I dont know what all the "1 percent pounds of..." stuff in the ration list was all about but something must be wrong there, because thats a ludicrous amount of food for a daily ration. 3 pounds of beef, 3 pounds of potatoes, a pound of sugar, a pound of fish, along with flour, rice, bread, pork, and all the rest. it sounds more like week's worth of food in that list.
I think a %Lb is a Metric ounce (25g), a measure not used today but more common back then...
@Joakim von Anka possible... how much does a slice weigh?
@Joakim von Anka agreed, something is fishy here... it does not add up...
the version of percentage ounce, I largely based on the Wikipedia article on imperial measurements, whilst I like imperial measurements I am not very familiar with the older ones as a system... I know that dried salt fish was a very large part of rations on older navy ships, so that did not draw my attention (again, I was basing everything on the fact that a lot of different ingredients are mixed here, even grains, bread might not have been a major component...)
In America something equally as awful - IMO - as poor immigrants forced by life circumstances In steerage/3rd Class has been around for about 100 years. We call it Greyhound.
Made a couple of voyages between Hawaii and Los Angeles in 1957 & 1961 in Dormitory cabins and Bathrooms down the hall. Almost like Steerage Passengers!!!
Very interesting video and thumbs up. But please work on your narration, it’s very monotonous and robotic.
Why are people so confused by “1% pound?” Do I know what it means? Of course I fucking don’t. Do I understand what it means? OF COURSE I FUCKING DO, HOLY SHIT, USE YOUR FUCKIN’ NOGGINS
That was what was used in the source I referred to. I figured people would be able to figure it out. Maybe I was wrong?
I guess the saying, "they don't make them like they used to" meant something more positive back then.
It's worth comparing the food of the 1880s vs what was available on Titanic in 1912. Such as on April 14th, they started the day with ham and eggs, oatmeal, smoked herring, fresh bread with butter and marmalade, with a choice of tea and coffee. For dinner, it was a classic roast beef with gravy served with sweet corn and boiled potatoes, with rice soup and fresh bread to start. For dessert, they had fresh fruit and plum pudding. For tea, they had a selection of cold meats, cheeses, fresh bread, presumably a rice pudding made with stewed figs, and of course tea. For a late night supper, you could have your choice of gruel (which was more like modern cream of wheat), cheese, and "cabin biscuits", which are basically crackers. Simple, but tasty. Not much different than a modern Sunday dinner for most people. Third class were also provided with water fountains in public areas, and even a bar for men to order drinks in the 3rd Class Smoke Room.
Love the content, as a history grad, I search for entertaining content like this on TH-cam, and yours is some of the best. Would love if you could leave links to websites, othsr videos, or even book suggestions at the end of videos so we can find out more! Thanks for making your vids
Nathan Stansfield Thanks for the kind words and I’m glad you’re enjoying the videos. My more recent videos include sources in the descriptions as will all future videos.
@@TheGreatBigMove Awesome man, cheers!
I love Economy even more now
Regarding the rations. If I'm hearing this correctly, the rations for one adult per day would feed me for 3 days. I don't think I could do the bathroom regime
So, stupid question looking at these pictures of steam ships - what are the masts for?
Not a stupid question. For a while, steamships used sailed for additional speed and as a backup in case of a failure (there originally was little faith in steam engines). After sails were completely gone from steamships, masts were there for tradition, aesthetics, and secondary functions such as wiring and the crows nest.
The first steam ships designed for ocean voyage had both sails and steam engines, they were used together or separately depending on the weather conditions. Masts are also used for functions beyond sailing; visibility via the 'crow's nest' when entering port or navigating around foreign bodies, communication via flag signals, and monitoring windspeed and wind direction fluctuations.
steerage sonds kind of like present-day american lower class
Don't like steerage? Don't be Irish.
or polish, english, scottish, russian, german, chinese, turkish etc. irish were not the only poor people in the world.
Ugh I've always despised that word steerage. Sounds like sewage :( ironically that's how they were treated aswell.
If I could take a ship instead of a plane, I would. Air travel is brutal these days.
Then why don't you? I will be returning back to England on the Queen Mary 2 in December after 16 years in the US. The fare was about the same as a non stop flight, so I thought, why not. It will be the first translantic crossing by ship I will have taken.
Love the videos of the old ships!
What old ship or class of ships would you like to see a video on? I'll try to add it to my list of upcoming videos.
The peas would probably be dried (yellow) ones, not the fresh, green sweet peas.
If you don't have refrigeration on board, fresh peas are basicly imposible to bring, and very far from a ration of basic nececities.
I never knew that I was interested in this aspect of history until I found your chanel!!! Well Done!!! Liked and subbed immediately!!!!!
It was normal back then to have food for a year on you. Farmers would always have enogh food till next harvest so they knew how much a their family would eat so the rest could be sold of an not have to rot. It was also normal to have everything else you needed onu.
Bring back my ocean liners!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My family came from lovely Germany in steerage, in 1900. It must have been rough and it took them exactly 30 days to cross the Atlantic.
What just a month
It took longer than that for dad to get lights for the garage.
By 1900 it took only a little under 6 days
@@SQUAREHEADSAM1912 I have the dates of departure and arrival. It took 30 days.
@@timsummers870 maybe in the 1830s but by the 1870s ships to about 12days, by 1900 6 days, and by mid 20th century 4 days or less.
@@SQUAREHEADSAM1912 my grandparents came from Italy in 1909 and it took 30days I have documents to prove this
you know you don't have to make these videos if it makes you this miserable
So we are all flying steerage in the sky. Im not fooled by Business class it is 2nd class. Thats the next step for us. THey make us clean our seats prior to exiting the plane. CAN YOU IMAGINE?! Me having to clean up?! Outrageous! I never!
6:28 they even have a net at each bed, for you to put your phone in. amazing.
Of course, what else would it be?
Waiting for a woosh btw
@@vapecat3911 oh, you're a vaping cat, aren't you ?
not so bad, back in days "traveling" on a pirate ships was worse.
Could you do a video about the SS Great Eastern, the Great Western, and the Great Britain?
Great eastern coming soon
@@TheGreatBigMove also I've been making up my own ocean liners even a class based on the preliminary designs of the Olympic class. Looking forward to the Great Eastern video.
You gave a great voice for this series.
I actually think the narration on my older videos is quite poor, but I have been actively working on improving it. So, hopefully my newer videos sound better!
To be fair this is still better than what you get on modern ships for 3rd class or simply "deck passage" like on ferrys. Where you don't even get a bed or allocated meals/water but solely the right to be on board.
Look up "coffin ships" used by Irish famine emigrants
Actually, the French Line NORMANDIE of 1935 had First, Tourist (second) and Third.
I enjoyed that, I rarely watch a video to the end. You win!
Would be very interested to a more in depth look at the other classes of travel
How was the plumbing on those vessels
I'm not even sure the term plumbing let alone actual plumbing had been created yet lol.
I'd love to learn more about what it was like onboard paddle-steamers and riverboats. Would you consider making a video about that please?
If you visit Kaslo, British Columbia in Canada, you can tour the SS Moyie, a preserved stern wheeler that plied the inland waters of Kootenay lake from 1897 - 1957.
@@heronimousbrapson863 I appreciate the thought but I live in Australia
@@kerrytaylor1795 yes, I understand your dilemma....
The third class is still around on pretty much every cruise ship. It is no longer referred to as third-class but it is there. Take a modern cruise ship for example. There are inside cabins following that there are outside cabins which are the cheapest and going up from there you have veranda cabins and finally suites. Depending on the price you wish to pay. Cunard is still a class structured ship. There are three dining rooms and based on what cabin you book determines what dining room you are assigned too. The Britannia is equal to the third class, the princess grill is second and the queen grill is first.
I wouldn’t compare inside cabins on cruise ships to third class because they have access to all the public amenities. Maybe QM2 is an exception in a sense but passengers still generally have the same access to public spaces.
My Norwegian Grand father and mother plus some of my uncles and aunts paid their way across by pealing potatoes etc.
Rms britannic 1874 rms britannic 1914 rms britannic 1916
the good old days... when we rode in the bilge
I can imagine how bad it would be on a rough crossing people sea sick around you puke everywhere.
Just wanted to say keep it up, your videos are great and I expect you'll really pick up in subs soon. Thanks for doing this!
Thank you, Samuel. I appreciate your taking the time to say that. I am quite happy with the growth I've seen in this channel over the past several weeks!
It is so difficult to tell the difference between 1980 ss brittanic and the 1916 RMS brittanic
Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but it's very easy since they're dramatically different in size and appearance among other things.
I don't know what all the comments about the tone of voice are. I think it's fine, it didn't grate and the video was highly informative. I know at least one other, much bigger channel that prides itself on providing 'dark stories' but the voice of that narrator is like he's in a hurry, on drugs, or both.
Cool channel. Looking forward to future content!
*PUBLIC CUP*
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And then, they come to promised land and things got worse. Poor had hard life no matter where.
Steerage = Southwest Airlines. Seriously. I prefer to drive.
We’re the rations for steerage passengers in the video for each day per passenger?
Yes